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But the rational and the irrational appear such in a different way to
Well then it was fitting for you to take care how you should be like the
In this way an athlete also acted who was in danger of dying unless his
"I will not shave myself." "But I will take off your head?" If that will do
Of progress or improvement
Do you then show me your improvement in these things? If I were talking to
Olympia? Are you not scorched? Are you not pressed by a crowd? Are you not
Consequently also in reasoning what has been said is not enough; but is it
But in fact in some cases we have properly granted the premisses or
That the faculties are not safe to the uninstructed
"Why then do we not exercise ourselves and one another in this manner?"
How from the fact that we are akin to God a man may proceed to the
If the things are true which are said by the philosophers about the kinship
Is it not plain that you call yourself an Athenian or Corinthian from the
Against those who eagerly seek preferment at Rome
I have so much as this to aid you toward what you wish. Does affection to
Of contentment
Will you not willingly surrender it for the whole? Will you not withdraw
How everything may he done acceptably to the gods
That the deity oversees all things
To this God you ought to swear an oath just as the soldiers do to Caesar But
What philosophy promises
Of providence
That the logical art is necessary
Chrysippus? Who says this? What then is the wondrous thing? To understand
That we ought not to he angry with the errors of others
"But the tyrant will chain." What? the leg. "He will take away." What? the
This is my invincible athlete
How we should behave to tyrants
What is it then that disturbs and terrifies the multitude? is it the tyrant
Caesar's shoemaker. You should have seen what respect Epaphroditus paid to
Felicion." Had he not sold the man as good for nothing? Who then made him
Has a man been exalted to the tribuneship? All who meet him offer their
Capitol: he offers a sacrifice of the occasion. Now who ever sacrificed for
Every art and faculty contemplates certain things especially. When then it
Against those who wish to be admired
On precognitions
Thus the dispute begins
Yes." But suppose that I place the good somewhere among the things which
Against Epicurus
It is circumstances which show what men are. Therefore when a difficulty
What then shall I do? What do you do when you leave a ship? Do you take away
"But a certain person will not leave to me the succession to his estate."
What then? had I forgotten that not one of these things was mine. How then
On the same
Yes. "But think also that you are in misery." This is not consistent with
How long then must we obey such orders? As long as it is profitable; and
Athens." I will not live in Athens. "Nor in Rome." I will not live in Rome
"But I should like to sit where the Senators sit." Do you see that you are
Do you think then that by means of your anger I shall learn the art of
Appearances to us in four ways: for either things appear as they are; or
Let the followers of Pyrrho and the Academics come and make their
I able to undertake the defense of common consent. If I had a suit even
What is the cause of assenting to anything? The fact that it appears to be
But passion overpowers the better council.'"
"Does a man then differ in no respect from a stork?" Don't suppose that I
Was it when Patroclus died? Not so. But it happened when he began to be
Phoenix? An appearance. The Hippolytus? An appearance. What kind of a man
The being of the Good is a certain Will; the being of the Bad is a certain
"Do you philosophers then teach us to despise kings?" I hope not. Who among
Then sitting in prison I say: "The man who cries out in this way neither
An example of another kind. "Assume the governorship of a province." I
I do with terror and uneasiness. But if I shall release myself from my
What we ought to have ready in difficult circumstances
That confidence is not inconsistent with caution
We are then in the condition of deer; when they flee from the huntsmen's
"tragic masks"; for as to children masks appear terrible and fearful from
What then is the fruit of these opinions? It is that which ought to he the
"What then did not Socrates write?" And who wrote so much? But how? As he
Of Tranquillity
Therefore Socrates said to one who was reminding him to prepare for his
And thus he ended the business. What need was there of this? Only do not
To those who recommend persons to philosophers
"Bring me any drachma and I will test it." But in the case of syllogisms I
How magnanimity is consistent with care
Things themselves are indifferent; but the use of them is not indifferent
"What then? Should we use such things carelessly?" In no way: for this on
This is just what you will see those doing who play at ball skillfully. No
How then is it said that some external things are according to nature and
Of indifference
The hypothetical proposition is indifferent: the judgment about it is not
Go and salute a certain person. "How?" Not meanly. "But I have been shut
"I am in danger of my life from Caesar." And am not I in danger who dwell in
And will other men be immortal?
How we ought to use divination
God is beneficial. But the Good also is beneficial. It is consistent then
Herein then simply seek the nature of the good; for I suppose that you do
Will you not then seek the nature of good in the rational animal? for if it
Irrevocable is my word and shall not fail
I will show the nerves of a philosopher. "What nerves are these?" A desire
These you shall see
And from what others? From sheep and like animals. Take care then to do
For this reason philosophers admonish us not to be satisfied with learning
Epicurus himself. Why then do you call yourself a Stoic? Why do you deceive
How we may discover the duties of life from names
To hold nothing as profitable to himself; to deliberate about nothing as if
What the beginning of philosophy is
And the cause of this is that we come into the world already taught as it
Of disputation or discussion
What things a man must learn in order to be able to apply the art of
How then did Socrates act? He used to compel his adversary in disputation to
Quickly with skill he settles great disputes
"I can tell you." Here you entrusted them to a person indifferently and to
"In truth I do think the soul is a much better thing than all the others
On anxiety
Sink in his knees and shift from foot to foot
Zeno did not care for those things over which Antigonus had power. But
To Naso
I too know this: for now you are come to me as if you were in want of
To or against those who obstinately persist in what they have determined
Now this man was with difficulty persuaded to change his mind. But it is
That we do not strive to use our opinions about good and evil
Where is the good? In the will. Where is the evil? In the will. Where is
This is the case also with ourselves. What do we admire? Externals About
What then are the things which are heavy on us and disturb us? What else
Is the Marcian water worse than that of Dirce? "But I was used to the water
The hot baths of Nero and the Marcian water
See how tragedy is made when common things happen to silly men
How we must adapt preconceptions to particular cases
What is the first business of him who philosophizes? To throw away
What is the reason? is it any other than that a man cannot properly adapt
It was because she could not endure this that Medea came to murder her
"No: but I wish to understand what Chrysippus says in his treatise of the
How we should struggle against appearances
Every habit and faculty is maintained and increased by the corresponding
So it is with respect to the affections of the soul: when you have been
"Happy is her adulterer also." Nor do I picture the rest to my mind; the
Quiescent." Over such a victory as this a man may justly be proud; not for
How then shall this be done? Be willing at length to be approved by
With constant ills the dilatory strives
Alexander and Deiphobus. "Who was their mother?" Hecuba. I have heard this
Have you not read the work? "I have not read it." Read. And what profit will
"Speak to me about good and evil." Listen:
The wind from Ilium to Ciconian shores
Brought me
Where or how? But you can show me an endless number who utter small
I ought to have? What is that which is wanting? When I see an artificer and
It is. Is it not then in our power? The only thing of all that is in our
The propositions which are true and evident are of necessity used even by
On friendship
"What a son I have brought up! He has long been wishing to bury me." Throw a
Life gives you pleasure: and why not your father
Do you think that Admetus did not love his own child when he was little?
Polynices from the same mother and from the same father? Were they not
Polynices: Where will you take your station before the towers?
Eteocles: Why do you ask me this?
Pol. I place myself opposite and try to kill you
Et. I also wish to do the same
Such are the wishes that they utter
It was through this ignorance that the Athenians and the Lacedaemonians
On the power of speaking
Therefore this is alone vice or alone virtue
What then? Does any man despise the other faculties? I hope not. Does any
To a person who was one of those who was not valued by him
A certain person said to him: "Frequently I desired to hear you and came to
Achilles quarrel with one another? Was it not through not knowing what
Trojans." Do you then leave Hector alone and draw your sword against your
"But I also am rich." Are you then richer than Agamemnon? "But I am also
Phoenix? how he stopped their mouths?
"Why?" Because you have not roused me. For what must I look to in order to
That logic is necessary
"Yes." Then I must use a demonstrative form of speech. This was granted. How
What is the property of error
Of finery in dress
What then? am I such a man? Certainly not. And are you such a man as can
Please them as a man. "Well; but they like smooth men." Will you not hang
The husband not to kill nor wed the wife
The third topic is that which immediately concerns those who are making
Diogenes pointed out one of the sophists in this way by stretching out his
Let us look at your principles also. For is it not plain that you value not
The material for the wise and good man is his own ruling faculty: and the
For this reason the good is preferred to every intimate relationship. There
Independent. Take it away. What have you seen? A man lamenting over the
Take it away. Has the proconsul met you? Apply the rule. What kind of thing
Independent. Take this away also: it does not stand examination: cast it
If we practiced this and exercised ourselves in it daily from morning to
"But my mother will not hold my head when I am sick." Go to your mother
"But at home I used to lie down on a delicious bed." Go away to your bed:
What are you saying? "And indeed I do not see what else there is on which
It is not easy to exhort weak young men; for neither is it easy to hold
To the administrator of the free cities who was an Epicurean
Epictetus said: It is proper for us who are not philosophers to inquire of
And also a man acts foolishly if he abstains from that which belongs to
This is not governing men like rational animals. But I: As Zeus has
How we must exercise ourselves against appearances
To a certain rhetorician who was going up to Rome on a suit
Epictetus. Let us see what he says." Then you go away and say: "Epictetus
In what manner we ought to bear sickness
Let sleep not come upon thy languid eyes
Blame what is wrong in what is right rejoice
But this is just as if a man after receiving blows should give up the
"But I cannot attend to my philosophical studies." And for what purpose do
Remember what the poet says about the stranger:
About exercise
I am rather inclined to pleasure: I will incline to the contrary side above
Solitude is a certain condition of a helpless man. For because a man is
Certain miscellaneous matters
Arrogance is removed by confutation; and Socrates was the first who
That we ought to proceed with circumspection to everything
Caesar These things are not consistent. You must be one man either good or
On providence
That we ought not to be disturbed by any news
What is the condition of a common kind of man and of a philosopher
That we can derive advantage from all external things
You say No: but take care that you do not fall sick: it is a bad thing."
Against those who readily come to the profession of sophists
Show us these things that we may see that you have in truth learned
Antipater and Archedemus."
I altered at all from my former condition." This you must think and say
About cynicism
Do you also think about the matter carefully: it is not what it seems to
"Much from his head he tore his rooted hair."
And what does he say himself?
Is leaping."
No. But you are rich in gold and copper. What then is the matter with you?
Zeus?" An unhappy king does not exist more than an unhappy god. What then
And why did you come hither? Was your desire in any danger? was your
And what do I want? Am I not without sorrow? am I not without fear? Am I not
And how do I meet with those whom you are afraid of and admire? Do not I
The people's guardian and so full of cares
Did they who left little children to the Thebans do them more good than
It is necessary also for such a man to have a certain habit of body: for if
And as to magistracies and honours? What does he care for them? When then
War is the work of men
To those who read and discuss for the sake of ostentation
Why then did you praise and flatter him? "He is an ingenuous youth and
Quadratus." Why should I hear you? Do you wish to show me that you put words
What then? is there not the hortatory style? Who denies it? as there is the
Let not that which in another is contrary to nature be an evil to you: for
And still earlier it was the fortune of Hercules to visit all the inhabited
Seeing men's lawless deeds and their good rules of law:
"Well then; do you wish me to pay court to a certain person? to go to his
And do not I only tell you that you may do what is becoming to yourself?
It is worth talking about. Let it be so; I will talk with him. But you must
In Athens did you see no one by going to his house? "I visited any man that
"How then shall I become of an affectionate temper?" By being of a noble
Will you not deny even all that you have learned that you may not bring a
What then is the discipline for this purpose? First of all the highest and
Do you tell me that a name which is significant of any natural thing is of
Let these thoughts be ready to hand by night and by day: these you should
To those who fall off from their purpose
To those who fear want
Lament then and groan and eat with fear that you may not have food
As a lion bred in the mountains trusting in his strength
Relying on what? Not on reputation nor on wealth nor on the power of a
About freedom
'What harm is it to you?' For this reason we shall say that those animals
The slave wishes to be set free immediately. Why? Do you think that he
Another thinks that he is poor; another that he has a severe father or
"This also is not in my power."
Is it His will that I should obtain anything? It is my wish also. Does He
Thus the more cautious of travelers also act. A traveler has heard that the
Olympia to see other athletes; but the solemnity is ended: go away like a
Purge your opinions so that nothing cleave to you of the things which are
"So I also used to think." But because he can not do it without suffering
The way that I am bid by you to go
Is death a bad thing? "No." Is prison? "No." But what did we think about
On familiar intimacy
To This matter before all you must attend: that you be never so closely
And jump up in the theatre and bawl out in praise of the dancer. But
What things we should exchange for other things
I do not make acclamations where it is not becoming: I will not stand up
To those who are desirous of passing life in tranquility
What then is the reason of this? The reason is that we have never read for
But now we do not know that we also in another way are like the many
Is it your will that I should go to Rome? I will go to Rome. To Gyara? I
"But he has struck me also." Great thanks that he did not wound you "But he
Remembering this Socrates managed his own house and endured a very
Against those who lament over being pitied
I do not exercise myself in nor do I practice in these the proper practice
Even the philosophers say that nothing hinders us from telling a lie." But
Whom then can I still fear? Those who are over the bedchamber? Lest they
Why do I fear the guards? Why am I pleased if he speaks to me in a friendly
Have I been eager to imitate his morals? But I keep up the play and go to
Against those who hastily rush into the use of the philosophic dress
For such is the Cynic who is honoured with the sceptre and the diadem of
His beauteous face pales his cheeks
He wipes a tear
Adonis. Such a poor plant are you also: you have blossomed too soon; the
To a person who had been changed to a character of shamelessness
God can now help you
The thing is in your own power: be assured: do not be precipitate in
Now is not that which will happen independent of the will? "Yes." And the
"The means which I have received from Thee for seeing Thy administration and
Antilochus or Menelaus? For when did he suppose that any of his friends was
"No greater ill could fall on me."
About Purity
Aristophanes says:
For Aristophanes says of Socrates that he also walked the air and stole
I request you to listen to my affairs." And you do this even to those who
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