don't have a chain of custody. The question really is, is it fundamentally fair? We triedMilosevic in Europe under these same rules. The Nuremberg trials were under theserules. we ust need legislation
Juliet: Secretary, if these people are let back out into the world, what is that going to doin the minds of our military men and women who are serving in places like
andAfghanistan?Reeder: They won't be let back out, they're detainees, they're not prisoners ofwar. Theydon't deserve to be treated as prisoners of war. And thev don't adhere to the old rules thatmakes thctn prisoners of
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process that everyone agreed to that is constitutional that sorts
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Nancy Pelosi, is calling this a triumph for the law, saying that everyone is entitled to thebasic guarantees of the of the American ustice system. Do you agree?Scales: Well,
think to some degree. This
the Umted States. We are a nation that'sruled by laws. But we're not talking about crime on the streets here. We're talking about330 hard-core..
whom have openly said to their guards and their interrogators,when released, they will immediately begin to kill Americans.
of them are Sunnis.These are not just
common criminals. These
men, who when released, shouldthey ever be released, and God forbid they will have be released, will immediately goback on the terrorist network and begin the process of doing what they were doing beforethey were captured. To me, sure.
the deal. What's important is the Americanpeople have to decide, is this
nation at war?
is this a nation at peace? If we're at war,we can use the police and the courts to clean up the terrorist problem.
we're a nation atwar. we have to
extraordinary efforts in order to protect the American people. It isjust that simple..
Host: Let mejust get General Scales in here while
little time. You were thereyesterday You had a chance to observe how things were run there. How difficult will itbe to make these changes, particularly for those who are capturing these detainees
thefront lines, to incorporate something they're asking for
something like Miranda Rights.Scales: That's
great question The only advantage our young men and women havethere who are guarding these guys is time. They have the ability to use time as
weaponagainst these guys. These young men
women have been assaulted. They've beenbeaten. They've been treated in ways that
can't talk about on the
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