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WELCOMETO LOS ANGELES

ALL
STAR
2011
*special edition**
*

FEATURING

LIL B
+ PROBLEM // BOBBY BRACKINS
the pack // kafani // messy marv
freeway ricky ross // new boyz
40 glocc // yg // TERRACE MARTIN
NIO THA GIFT // DOM KENNEDY
ya boy // cali swag district
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PUBLISHER:
Julia Beverly

EDITOR-IN-CHIEF:
Julia Beverly

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CONTRIBUTORS:
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Brian Moore
Eric Perrin
Gary Archer
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Ni Sweet
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table of contents
24-26 40 GLOCC
60-62 BOBBY BRACKINS
16-17 CALI SWAG DISTRICT
56-58 DOM KENNEDY
64-67 FREEWAY RICKY ROSS
48-51 JAY ROCK
10 L.A. EVENT LISTING
52-55 MESSY MARV
34-36 NEW BOYZ
42-43 NIO THA GIFT
44-46 PROBLEM
28-29 TERRACE MARTIN
64-71 THE GANG
38-41 THE PACK
30-31 YA BOY
14-15 YG

18-22 LIL B

WELCOMETO LOS ANGELES


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LOS ANGELES Drama & Roscoe Dash @ Ecco Ultra Lounge
(1640 N. Cahuenga Blvd)

Event - Nicki Minaj & Rick Ross All Star Kick Off
Party @ Exchange LA (618 Spring St.)

Listing - The Official Nicki Minaj & Rick Ross Players


Ball After Hours Party @ Union Station (800 N.
Alameda St)

Thursday, Feb 17 Saturday, Feb 19


- Foxxhole All Star Jam With Jamie Foxx @ Club
- The All Star Daytime Sip Party 12pm-6pm @
Nokia LA Live (800 W Olympic Blvd, Suite
The Palm (1100 S. Flower St)
A335)
- Jeezy & Friends Host @ Cabana Club (1439
- Dwyane Wade “Men In Suits/Women In
Ivar Ave)
Dresses” Party @ The Colony - Hollywood (1743
- Jermaine Dupri, Common & Gabrielle
North Cahuenga Blvd)
Union @ Cabana Club (1439 Ivar Ave)
- Trina & Ron Artest Celebrity Kick-Off @ Green
- Diddy Takes Over The Highlands (6801 Hol-
Door/Cabana Club (1439 Ivar Ave)
lywood Blvd)
- NBA All Star Tip Off With Lebron James, Com-
- Rick Ross & Melyssa Ford @ Marbella (6757
mon, Chris Paul & Kenny Burns @ Boulevard
Hollywood Blvd)
3 (6523 Sunset Blvd)
- Ciara & Ray J Host @ The Music Box (6126
- Pre All Star Weekend Kick Off Hosted By Rick
Hollywood Blvd)
Ross & Rosa Acosta @ MyHouse (7080
- Trey Songz & Bizmarkie @ Magestic Hall
Hollywood Blvd)
(650 S. Spring St)
- DJ Khaled NBA vs NFL Invasion @ Kress (6608
- South Beach Meets Hollywood hosted By
Hollywood Blvd)
Dwyane Wade @ Supper Club (6675 Hol-
lywood Blvd)
Friday, Feb 18 - Matt Barnes of LA Lakers & Claudia Jordan
- Drake & Lil Wayne @ W Hollywood (6250 Hol- @ LA Athletic Club (431 W 7th St)
lywood Blvd) - Kurupt & Menace Live @ The Burgundy
- “Angels & Demons” Playboy Mansion Party House (6202 Santa Monica Blvd)
Hosted by Snoop Dogg (10236 Charing Cross - Kevin Hart Live @ Nokia Theater (777 Chick
Rd) Hearn Ct)
- Diddy & Meagan Good Invade Hollywood @ - Dwight Howard & Chris Johnson @ The Met-
Avalon (1735 Vine St) ropolitan (651 La Peer Dr)
- Lebron James, Drake & Kenny Burns Host @ - Kobe Bryant & ?uestlove Host LA Confiden-
Cabana Club (1439 Ivar Ave) tial @ Boulevard 3 (6523 Sunset Blvd)
- Lil Wayne Invades NBA All Star Weekend @ - Celebrity After Party With Ciara, Trina & SKG
Shrine Auditorium & Expo Center (700 West @ Union Station (800 N. Alameda St.)
32nd St) - Ray J’s Young, Fly & Sexy All Star Party @ Elxr
- Kevin Hart Live @ Nokia Theater (777 Chick Night Club (5750 Hollywood Blvd)
Hearn Ct) - Gucci Mane, Soulja Boy, Waka Flocka NBA
- Shaq All Star Weekend After Party @ Club All Star Takeover @ Orchid (607 S. Oxford Ave)
Nokia LA Live (800 W Olympic Blvd, Suite - All Star Saturday Night After Hours Party
A335) Hosted by Nicki Minaj @ The Bank (117 W.
- Chris Brown NBA All Star Party @ Boulevard 3 Seventh St)
(6523 Sunset Blvd)
- Wale & Kevin Durant’s “Welcome To Holly-
wood” Tip Off Party @ La Vida (1448 N. Gower
Sunday, Feb 20
- Jeezy Takes Over The Highlands (6801 Hol-
St.)
lywood Blvd)
- Rajon Rondo All Star Wknd Birthday Bash @
- Chris Brown & Biz Markie @ Magestic Hall
Orchid (607 S. Oxford)
(650 S. Spring St)
- Gucci Mane, Derrick Rose & Shannon Brown
- DJ Drama, DJ Skee, Fabolous & Dwyane
Host @ Tru Hollywood (1600 Argyle Ave)
Wade All Star Finale @ Kress (6608 Hollywood
- Dwight Howard Official All Star Kick-Off @ The
Blvd)
Highlands (6801 Hollywood Blvd)
- Lebron James, Jermaine Dupri & Common
- Beats By Dre All Star Comedy Show @ The
Host @ Cabana Club (1439 Ivar Ave)
Comedy Store (8433 Sunset)
- Celebrity Birthday Blowout for Rick Ross,
- Plies All Star Weekend Celebration with Mann
Kelly Rowland & Kid Capri @ Tru Hollywood
& Cashmere @ 740 (753 S. Spring St)
(1600 Argyle Ave)
- All Star Rookie & Sophomore Party With DJ
- Lil Wayne & Drake @ Siren Studios (6063
West Sunset Blvd Hollywood)

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After landing a deal with Def Jam Well, you have tattoos like Lil Wayne. Do you
largely due to the success of his have any room left for more tattoos?
omnipresent Cali club record “Toot It I only got my back and my legs left, but I’m
and Boot It,” COMPTON RAPPER YG now trying to get those done before my birthday,
aims to let the world know he’s not hopefully.
just a one-hit wonder.
Do you have any tattoos that are real mean-
Of course people know you from “Toot It and ingful to you?
Boot It.” What are you working on now? All my tattoos mean stuff. I’ve got my cousin’s
I’ve got a new single that just dropped called name, Rest in Peace, on the back of my neck
“Patty Cake.” It’s been spinning on the radio with angel wings. I’ve got “Music is Life” on my
in L.A. I’m about to drop a mixtape called Just arm. My label is called Pushaz Ink, and I’ve got
Re-Upped in March, and my EP is coming out that tattooed on my arm. I’ve got Jesus’ face
in May. I just shot a movie that was directed by on the side of my head and it says “God’s Son.”
Mario Van Peebles. Snoop Dogg is playing my I’ve got a cross on the back of my head that
big brother in the movie and all kinds of shit. says “in Jesus’ name we trust.” On my back it
I’m finna start touring too. says “Lost Angels” and I’ve got a big baby angel
in the middle of the back with Chucks on and
I see you got a new YG piece. he’s got a mic in his hand. I feel like I’m a lost
Yeah, this is my first piece. The jeweler Icey angel. I’m an angel but I’m kind of lost, feel
Fresh did it for me. I decided to keep it simple me? So yeah, I’ve got a whole bunch of tats.
and just get my name, YG. They all mean something though. My mama
and daddy’s names are on my arm too. I’ve got
Where does the name YG come from any- all kinds of shit.
way?
Where I’m from, we’re all YGs. Everybody in my Do you feel like you’re getting more respect
neighborhood that’s around my age, we call now with “Patty Cake” being out, so you’re
ourselves YGs. Young Gangstas. So I’m repre- not falling into that one-hit wonder cat-
senting all the YGs, period. But I’m on some fly egory?
shit though. Oh yeah, I’m definitely getting more respect.
We’re getting shit poppin’ right now.
You got some big names on your “Toot it and
Boot it” remix. How did 50 Cent get involved? So the album is dropping in May. How are
I saw 50 at the label in L.A. I’m signed to Def you adjusting to the major label situation?
Jam and the Def Jam and Interscope buildings Do you feel like you have a lot of control over
in L.A. are connected. I was up there having your creative process?
a meeting and when I was leaving, I saw him I’ve got control. I just turn my records into
leaving too. My manager told me to pull up on the label and it’s all good. It ain’t none of that
him. So I pulled up on him and blocked his car other stuff.
so he couldn’t move. Then I hopped out, like,
“What’s happenin’? It’s YG.” He was like, “What’s You mentioned a movie you filmed recently.
happenin’?” I told him I had a show at the Key When and where is that going to drop?
Club in Hollywood, and he came through the The movie is being shopped around right
next day and kept his word. He brought Lloyd now, so I don’t actually know when it’s going
Banks too, so everybody was going crazy. We to drop, but it’s coming soon. It’s called Where
chopped it up after that, and when I wanted The Party At? That’s the name of the movie,
to shoot a video for the remix, he fucked with so be on the lookout for that. There’s a lot of
it. So he did the video for me and the Snoop artists in there, like the New Boyz, Snoop, and
Dogg feature was just because he fucks with Diddy’s son.
me. I’m like Snoop’s little homie from the West
Coast. I was on tour with him when I asked him What do you have planned for All Star week-
to hop on the song. He recorded his verse in end, and what are some spots the out-of-
the hotel, I think, and then we did the video. towners should be sure to visit?
All the spots. I don’t even know, man. I know
The success of “Toot it and Boot it” took you I’ve got some shows though. I’ve got a show
a lot of places, right? What was the craziest in Anaheim with Rick Ross and Waka Flocka.
place you went? Everybody’s going to be performing. There’s
When I went to Seattle and Portland, I went to too many spots in Hollywood that are gonna
these all ages clubs and they were treating me be poppin’ to even mention. I’m gonna be in
like I was Lil Wayne. the streets for sure, so look out for me. //

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WITH THE UNEXPECTED SUCCESS OF THEIR December getting ready for this tour. We’ve
RUNAWAY SINGLE “TEACH ME HOW TO been going to the gym and just getting in
DOUGIE,” CALI SWAG DISTRICT GOT LOOKS shape physically and mentally. We try to hit the
ON ESPN AND THE BET HIP HOP AWARDS, gym for about two hours every other morning.
PLUS THE CHANCE TO MEET KIM KARDASHI-
AN. GROUP MEMBER JAYARE TELLS OZONE Are you all the same age?
WHAT’S NEXT. Yeah, we’re all 20.

So you’re out in Vegas today, huh? Do you Your album is set to drop in February, right?
guys spend a lot of time there? Yeah, it’s looking pretty good. We added some
We’ve been out here since the beginning of more tracks, so I think it’s going to be a good

(l-r) M-Bone, C-Smoove, Yung, & JayAre

ag District
Cali Sw
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Words by Eric
Pe rrin
one. It’s our first album and it’s going to be a to Dougie” is a bubblegum song. It’s simple
classic for us, so we’re pretty excited about it. and it’s catchy, but it blew up. So there could
be a negative side to that because people
The summer had to be ridiculous for you think we’re just one-hit wonders, but that’s
with the success of “Teach Me How to not what it is. When the album drops they’re
Dougie.” gonna know.
Oh yeah, last year was crazy. I think 2010 was
the year of the Dougie. For people who haven’t heard the other
songs, what kind of music do you do in ad-
How did the song “Teach Me How to Dou- dition to radio hits?
gie” come about? It’s kinda hard to pinpoint, because we don’t
It all started from one of our friends that grew have a certain sound. Our sound doesn’t
up where we grew up. He went off to college sound too West Coast or too East Coast. It’s
in Texas where the dance originated, and just our own Cali swag. It’s kinda hard to
when he came back out here on his break, he explain. We’ve got our own flavor.
suggested we do a song about the dougie.
We just took the idea and it turned into The name Cali Swag District is pretty self-
something bigger than we thought. It took explanatory, but what made you settle on
off from there. “Teach Me How to Dougie” that for your name?
was the first song we recorded as a group. It Our visionary came up with the name; he’s
felt good once the song started blowing up. the one that put the group together. He
We heard that more people were doing the had the name before the faces. When we
dougie around the world. It was breathtaking. first heard the name, we were like, “I don’t
We didn’t know what to think. It’s crazy. know, it’s kinda corny,” but we just ran with it
anyway. It’s different. Nobody has a name like
Justin Bieber was on Ellen teaching her how ours, and it means something to us. So we all
to do it. What are some of the best stories got it tatted on us.
you’ve heard about the song?
They had a little segment on ESPN; they Who is your visionary and how did he select
brought Doug E. Fresh in and were showing y’all to be a part of Cali Swag District? Did
all the clips of the NFL and NBA players doing he hold auditions or something?
the dougie. We got to teach Kim Kardashian No, our visionary is Big Wy, he used to be a
how to do the dougie, so that was cool. We part of The Relatives, which was a rap group
went to one of her parties. in the 90s. He was signed to Death Row a long
time ago. I guess he wanted to start fresh
That’s hot! and do something new, so he decided to put
Yeah, it was! She was hot too! (laughs) a group together. He knew Yung through
Did any of y’all try to get at Kim Kardashian? Yung’s manager, because Yung has been
Nah, we were only there for business. But rappin’ since he was 14 years old. Yung was
we got her Twitter, so if one of the homies doing his solo thing and he needed a DJ, so
is tryin’ to talk to her they’re probably doing that’s where C-Smoove came in. He was a
it low-key. (laughs) At the car and bike show DJ for the city of Inglewood; that’s where he
in Atlanta we taught Ne-Yo’s mom, T-Pain’s grew up. So once they brought him in and did
mom, and Lil Wayne’s momma how to do the a song together, Big Wy started thinking they
dougie, so that was a good look too. They could be the two dudes to start the group.
already knew how to do it, so it’s crazy! M-Bone was there already because he used to
hang with Yung most of the time. C-Smoove
What was your favorite moment last year? brought me in, and once Big Wy saw us all
Shoot, performing at the [BET] Hip Hop together, he was like, “I think I got something
Awards! I remembered being at home watch- here.” [In our group] there’s a tall dude, a short
ing the show, so for me to finally be on there, dude that looks Asian, a dark skinned dude,
that’s crazy. I used to be like, “I wanna be on and a dude that looks almost white. It’s kinda
there one day,” and it actually came true. It crazy, but it works.
was crazy!
What else do you have coming up? Is there
Are there any negative aspects to having a anything else you’d like to plug?
huge hit single like “Teach Me How to Dou- We’re trying to do more TV. Maybe a reality
gie” before you have a nationwide fan base? show or some movies. I think 2011 is gonna
Yeah, because people think that we can be a big year for us, besides just the tour and
only make songs like that. “Teach Me How the album dropping. //

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LIL B
THE BASED GO
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B everly
Words by Julia

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LIL B USED THE PACK AS A SPRINGBOARD best situation. But we’re both always gonna
TO LAUNCH HIS OWN SOLO CAREER AND work together.
SOON LINKED UP WITH SOULJA BOY. NOW,
THE BASED GOD HAS GOT THE INTERNET Are you in talks with other record labels?
GOING NUTS, THANKS TO HIS QUIRKY--AND There are a few labels that have put stuff on
OFTEN OFFENSIVE--SENSE OF HUMOR AND the table. I’ve got lawyers looking over the
A FLURRY OF STREAM-OF-CONSCIOUSNESS paperwork and stuff like that. I’ma give you
RHYMES. HERE HE TALKS ABOUT NEGO- an exclusive, too – nobody knows about this.
TIATING A RECORD DEAL WITH 50 CENT, I’m out here [in New York] to meet up with 50
AND THREATENS TO SODOMIZE PRESIDENT Cent. We’re gonna meet up and see what’s
OBAMA. (WHAT?!?) up. The labels are going nuts right now and
everybody is trying to get down, so I’m trying
Let’s go back a little because even with this to pace myself and be smart and handle
new fame that you’re getting, I think a lot of what I’ve gotta handle and pay attention to
people aren’t aware that you got your start the music. I’m just trying to keep happy and
as part of The Pack and that whole move- stay in tune with the music and keep build-
ment. What’s going on with the group? ing towards a big buy-out.
Yeah, definitely. Well, as far as The Pack, we’re
still together and still grindin’. That was my You and 50 Cent seem to have something
first start in the game, grinding with them, in common because you both like to get
coming into the game really early. We got people’s attention by being intentionally
signed when I was around fifteen or sixteen, controversial. For example, when you come
so that gave me a jump start, and I just never out with a video saying “hoes on my dick
really stopped working. Even before we got cause I look like Jesus” or threaten to anally
signed, I was always working indirectly. I rape Kanye West, how much of that is real-
wasn’t really doing it to get famous, but just ity and how much of it is for shock value?
doing it to be heard and get into the parties. That’s my sense of humor. I have a crazy
sense of humor and I know how to get under
Did you always plan on breaking off to do people’s skin. I like to make people go, “Oh
your solo thing? my God!,” you know what I mean? That’s kind
I was always a solo artist at heart. It’s just a of like the jokester that I am. I’m fearless. I
blessing that we all had an amazing dynamic don’t censor myself; that’s a big thing for me.
together and we all clicked and could make I just have fun, make jokes, get reactions,
hits together. That’s an amazing gift we had. and put my personality into the game to let
It’s very rare that four people can click and people see a new way of thinking.
sound good together. But yeah, I’ve always
been a solo artist. Let’s talk about this whole “Based God”
thing. Is that an actual religion?
You’re affiliated with Soulja Boy’s SODMG Nah, nah. Based God is not a religion. Based
label now, right? How did you link up with is not a religion nor a cult. I hear a lot of peo-
Soulja Boy? ple associating it with a cult and saying that
The first time me and Soulja Boy really con- I have a “cult following” and stuff like that,
nected was on Myspace, years before he but it’s not a religion. The Based God idea
got famous off “Crank Dat.” He added me on originated from my freestyles. I freestyled
Myspace and when I listened to that song about one thousand songs out of my home
on his page, I was like, damn, “Crank Dat” is studio and released those songs. With that
amazing. I hit him up and asked him to let stream of consciousness, I found this other
me get on the remix. He never hit me back character within myself, which is the Based
and then he blew up. A few years later I was God. So that’s really where it came from.
dropping videos on Worldstar Hip Hop and It’s not a religion or anything like that. It’s
Soulja Boy quoted one of my lines on Twitter. just an untouchable character. I’m Brandon
I was at my pa’tna’s house in L.A. when I saw McCartney and Lil B is this crazy person from
it, and I was like, “Man, Soulja, what’s up bruh, the hood who says whatever he wants, he’s
let’s rock. That’s love!” He followed me back the rebel. The Based God is more in touch
and we’ve been gettin’ it in ever since. with the spiritual side.

Are you signed to him as a solo artist? Okay, I know you defended this by saying
I’m not signed to anybody yet. I’m unsigned. it’s your sense of humor, but let’s talk about
Me and Soulja are working out some stuff the song “hoes on my dick cause I look like
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fense to that. Do you believe in Jesus? And if You felt like doing a song about Jesus would
so, how do you justify that? get you more attention than a Lil Wayne
I definitely was raised to believe in God and feature, basically?
respect the church. When I made that song Yeah, I think God got more fans than Wayne.
and when I did that video, I prayed and talked Wayne might be coming up second or third.
to God. I said to God, “You know how I really (laughs)
feel about you, and you know that I love you,
and you know why I’m doing this.” He knows Okay, what about the Kanye comment? You
what’s in my heart. I’m a spiritual person. I said on Twitter that if Kanye West didn’t
never read the Bible or anything like that so agree to do a song with you, you would
I might not be a fanatic like everybody else, anally rape him. Did he agree to do a song
but I believe in God and I love Jesus and I’m with you or are you going to have to fulfill
thankful for everything I have. So I definitely your threat?
believe in God and I wasn’t trying to disrespect I got a show with Kanye coming up at
anybody. I prayed and told God thank you and Coachella. And it’s funny because Kanye did
asked him for forgiveness, and that helped me. acknowledge me. I tend to forget it. I directed
and edited this video called “Swag OD” with
Soulja Boy. Kanye posted that on his blog
“God has a lot before he was on Twitter. So he had already
more fans than I acknowledged me and I kinda forgot that
and I was trippin’. But yeah, man, I was joking.
do... I don’t want I’m not really gonna rape Kanye or anything
to disrespect like that. I just want to work with him. He’s
a legend and I’ve got some amazing beats
anybody. that that nobody on earth has ever heard. I wanna
was me just being hook him and Jay up with some very mature
music; something that’s real revolutionary. So
a rebel because that’s the only reason why I would go to great

that’s how I feel. lengths like that. I wouldn’t say something like
that if I didn’t have something revolutionary in
‘Hoes on my dick my pocket.

cause I look like Do you produce all your own music?


Jesus.’ I mean, who I do a lot of production but I also have in-
house producers that I work with that take
looks better care of me. I have about 8 serious producers.
than Jesus?" Well, your method seems to be working
because you’ve really generated a lot of buzz
So you gave God a little disclaimer? recently. Would you credit it to your work
(laughs) Exactly. ethic, your music talent, or the shock value of
some of the stuff you’ve put out there?
So when you say that God knows why you All around. Just being able to turn a negative
did that song – why did you do it? Basically into a positive, working hard, not caring what
just to get your name out there? Or what do people think about you. It’s really an all-around
you mean by that? thing. I put in a lot of work and I think with a
Yeah. I guess I’m the only person in the world lot of the situations I’ve been through, I must
that’s done that, you know? God has a lot more have a reason to be in the game because a lot
fans than I do. God has a lot more fans than Lil of rappers wouldn’t be able to survive stuff
Wayne. I don’t want to disrespect anybody. I’ve like that. It’d be career suicide. I already killed
got a sense of humor, but I haven’t met God my career a couple times, you feel me? Who
yet. When I die or something, I’ll know [if he can say they’re gonna fuck Kanye West in the
finds it funny]. But I pray to the man, I pray to ass and still have a career? Who gets punched
the spirit, you know, I’m thankful for every- on YouTube and still gets respect, feel me?
thing. And I don’t mean money. I don’t thank Ain’t nothing changed, you know? All the
him when I get money, I just mean in general. shit that I’ve been through – for me to still be
So that was me just being a rebel because here shooting magazine covers and getting
that’s how I feel. “Hoes on my dick cause I millions of views on YouTube – I’ve had to turn
look like Jesus.” I mean, who looks better than negatives into positives, and by believing in
Jesus? Feel me? myself, I think that’s the main thing. Regardless

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of anything I believe in myself and I know what this positive message. If I gotta walk around
I’m here to do and that’s promote positive naked in the snow to spread this message,
words. I just want to promote this positive that’s what I’m gonna do. It’s for the people. It’s
message that’s at my core. I feel like people bigger than me. There’s people dying to this
should live a certain way, with love, compas- music, you know? There’s people dying be-
sion, and empathy; not judging. I’m deeper cause of the messages [in this music]. People
than just a rapper. So that’s the message, and love these artists but they aren’t showing both
however I gotta get that across, no matter sides of the picture. I’ve lived both sides of
how long it takes me or whatever I gotta do to life. I almost lost my life in the streets when I
become heard and use that position of influ- was living negatively. And now I’m one of the
ence for the right things, I’ma do it. If I gotta happiest people on earth, just by spreading
say I’m gonna fuck President Obama in the ass positive energy. I wanna show both sides of
for me to spread this positive energy, I’ma do the field at all times, while I’m young and while
it. I want people to live together and be happy. people respect what I’m saying. I’m still in the
And you know I won’t fuck President Obama in streets and I’m still close to the people, so I
the ass – cause you know the phone we’re on know what’s going on.
right now is probably tapped – so I’m not mak-
ing any threats to the President or anything You put out a book a while back too, to
like that. But basically, I strongly believe in the spread your positive message?
core message and the core foundation that I Yeah, when I was 19 I wrote a book called
represent. It’s deeper than rap with me. Way “Taking Over by Imposing the Positive.” It was
deeper than rap. about trying to further the message deeper
than music. I just wanted to show another side
But how is saying that you’re going to fuck to me, so people can’t say that I’m one-sided. If
President Obama in the ass “spreading a people want to dig for the message, it’s there.
positive message”? You’re using controversy You can see the real me if you dig deep. The
to get people’s attention so that you can then love is there for you. I’ma keep working hard
give a positive message? and doing what I gotta do. But for the people
Exactly. Like, will I really fuck Obama in the ass? that did read it, I mean, it changed people’s
No. But am I going to be the one person that’ll lives. People gave me feedback because my
say it? Maybe. You know what I mean? Maybe real email address is in the book. I made sure
I’m the only person brave enough to say that. people could hit me up. It definitely changed
Maybe I’m taking it a little too far, but that’s people’s lives and helped other people, so
the extreme lengths I’m willing to go to spread it’s all love over here. I do it out of love for
the people. If I didn’t care about society and I
“will i really fuck didn’t care about making people happy and
helping people, why would I have written
obama in the ass? that book? I wouldn’t have pushed myself
no. but maybe i’m to write that book at such a young age. With
everything else that’s going on, I really wanted
the only person to use this time – while people care about me

brave enough to and respect what I say – for the right things. I
wanna balance it out regardless, because I’m
say it; that’s the young and I feel different ways. I say some cra-
zy shit. I might not be happy all day long but
extreme lengths I’m still gonna remain positive no matter what.
i’m willing to go I just wanna make sure I balance out the crazy
shit. We’re human and we make mistakes, but
to spread this it’s really about who you are as a person at the
positive message. end of the day. What do you represent? Do you
represent love and peace or do you represent
if i gotta walk separation and individuality? All that is cool
around naked but I’d rather people get together and feed off
each other’s energy and spread the love. We all
in the snow to need help.

spread this mes- When you talk about love and compassion,
sage, that’s what of course those are positive qualities, but
also kind of abstract. When you talk about
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goal you want to see this generation rally ning to release a full-length album soon?
together towards? Yeah, I’ve definitely got an album that I’m
Well, I really wanna help people stop judging working on right now, and it sounds amazing.
at first glance. I want people to feel like it’s I’ve got a movie coming out. I wanna write
okay to talk to other people and make that ini- some more books and I’m just gonna keep
tial first step to break the ice. I want people to working hard and waiting for the right time
travel, meet others, and be able to listen. When when the world wants me to see. I’m ready to
you listen to people, that can help out a great work and be here for some years and make
deal because you start to feel empathy for it undeniable. I know it’s gonna take time for
them and start to relate to them. I really want everybody to see what I have to offer to the
world and secure my position in the game. I
“drugs or no know I’ve got a lot of hard work to do and a
lot more left to accomplish. I’ve gotta make
drugs, i’ma be me. sure the people want me to win. Once the
but i do be hun- people want me to win, that’s when I’ll drop
the album.
gry. like, if i’m
extremely hun- Are any of these shock-value statements we
talked about drug-induced?
gry and i haven’t I think I’ll keep that a secret. Michael Jackson

eaten, i will say didn’t tell anybody what he was doing. When
Michael Jackson was still alive he wasn’t telling
some crazy shit. people, “Alright, let’s pop some pills and hit
that moonwalk and then we’re done.” Feel me?
that’s honestly But that’s just me. Drugs or no drugs, I’ma be
where the kanye me. But I do be hungry. Like, if I’m extremely
hungry and I haven’t eaten, I will say some
statement came crazy shit. That’s honestly where the Kanye
from. i was hel- statement came from. I hadn’t eaten all day
and I was hella hungry and I wanted to work
la hungry and i with [Kanye] in the studio.

wanted to work (laughs) Okay.


with [kanye] in You need to make sure you eat that food, you

the studio.” know what I mean? (laughs) I wasn’t high or


anything [when I made the Kanye statement].

to be able to bring people into other people’s Maybe you should have a personal chef that
shoes. That’s my big thing. I want people to travels with you or something.
feel like the world understands how you feel, Exactly. I need to step my money up, and that’s
instead of thinking, “She’s a woman, I can’t what’s gonna happen real, real soon. If I keep
relate to her,” or, “We’re very different, I can’t re- going hard, it’s gonna happen.
late.” I want everybody to be able to relate and
find ways that are similar. I’m not too far from Do you have any other shows or events com-
you, and we’re not too far from each other. We ing up? Anything else you’d like to say?
could talk for days about all the things I really I have Coachella coming up soon. Shouts out
want to do. I meet people every day and I learn to you and OZONE for showing the support;
stuff every day; I see more situations I want to y’all been holding it down since day one. I’ma
deal with. On the news I see people complain- keep working hard til I get that OZONE front
ing about saggy pants and all that, but there’s cover, feel me? I’ma work hard as hell and
more serious things to deal with – there’s more become undeniable. That’s what I’m working
love we could be spreading to further the towards. I’m just proving myself in the game.
community and just bring people together in I’m a student of the game. Hit me up on twit-
general. I want to see less separation. There’s ter.com/lilbthebasedgod or youtube.com/
a lot of unconscious things we do as people lilbpackone or facebook.com/lilbthebased-
that are really separating us from each other. I god. You know I got love for you JB, and we’ll
wanna bring less separation and more unity. just keep it rolling. I got a lot of stuff to prove
and plenty of years to do it, so hopefully God
You’ve been putting out a ton of music lets me stay alive so we can grow and do it
online and a lot of viral videos. Are you plan- together. //

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40 GLOCC, OTHERWISE KNOWN AS BIG fans don’t know that, so they’ve still got
BAD 40, TALKS ABOUT CHOOSING BE- to go out there and act like they’ve got it
TWEEN MONEY AND FAME, HIS UPCOMING super-poppin’. They spent their advance
ALBUM WITH SPIDER LOC, AND HOW PO- money already and this goes on every year,
LICE ARE USING HIS MUSIC AGAINST HIM. because most of them sign a four-to-seven
year deal, depending on their success. So
Often when your name comes up, there it’s kind fucked up if you’re not that one
tends to be some controversy involved. Are successful artist. If you don’t get that one
you intentionally trying to stay in the mix lucky record and if you don’t hit right off the
or does it just come naturally to you? bat, you know, it’s hard to make a career for
I mean, I don’t have problems with nobody. I yourself and keep it crackin’, even if you’re
think people pay too much attention to Twit- on a major label. They’re going to put you on
ter, for one. Twitter is just a source of enter- the shelf, and then all you’ve got is the little
tainment for me. But anything else like that, fame they built for you off the relationships
you might call it “staying in the mix” but I call they have with the media and tabloids. So it’s
it documenting my life. My life has always hella fucked up if you ask me, but that’s why
been like that. There’s always something go- a lot of West Coast artists stay independent.
ing on. I don’t know if I painted the picture of Everybody can sell dope, but that doesn’t
always being into something. I think shit just mean everybody’s gonna be successful sell-
comes to me. I attract bullshit sometimes. ing dope, you know what I mean? You’ve got
niggas that know how to sell keys and curb
You’re working on a release with Spider server niggas – that’s what we call them, the
Loc, right? niggas that just gotta be pushin’ stone to
Yeah, we did a joint album called Graveyard stone every day, you know?
Shift. It’s real dope. We’ve got Drama on it
with us, MC Eiht, Kurupt, Obie Trice, you You were in jail recently, right? What was
know. It’s an in-store release and I’m drop- that about?
ping it through my label Zoo Life Entertain- I’ve been going through litigation for the last
ment. three years. They’re accusing me of doing
certain things because of my music. They
I’m sure you’ve had offers from major basically convicted me through my music,
labels. Do you feel like it’s a better situation but it was a civil suit [not criminal charges]. I
for you financially to drop it yourself? was telling everybody that this is what [the
Yeah, the way the terms are right now, if you government] is doing to everybody now.
drop something on a major label you really They just started taking it out of [California]
aren’t seeing any dough. You’ll have to wait to other spots and now they’re doing it over-
on your advance. For me, with the type of seas. They’ll give out gang injunctions and all
money I run through during an average year, that shit. They’ll go through the community
it doesn’t even make sense. The [major label] and label everybody as a gang member.
advance money wouldn’t even bail me out So if you get caught with me, the police
of jail. I’ve got houses, you know. I got hella will assume you’re a gang member. That’s
bills. I don’t just have “a crib,” I have “cribs,” basically how they did me, but they did it to
you know what I mean? (laughs) I pay bills me through my music. They said that I say
just like any regular muthafucker. [gang-related] things in my music. I don’t
have any felonies; I haven’t been convicted of
There are a lot of West Coast artists who sell any crimes. So they filed a civil suit and they
records independently in the region but sued me. When they sue you, it’s punishable
aren’t really known worldwide. Do you feel through the court system. So anything you
like you have to make a choice between do after that can make you a criminal. If I’m
making money or being famous? jaywalking or I’ve got an open container in
Yeah, that’s definitely the choice you gotta the streets, it’s not a misdemeanor anymore.
make: make money or be famous. People They add a “gang enhancement.” They make
think they want the fame, but after they get it a felony. That’s basically why they raised
the fame and see what type of situation it my bail up to $100,000, because they found a
is, they don’t like it anymore. They’ll learn weapon. There’s a weapons charge and they
that the fame shit isn’t cool. They’re running added a gang injunction, which automati-
around like a slave, the label is sending them cally boosts everything to a felony.
here and there, landing in Tokyo, Japan or
somewhere in Wisconsin and they’ve only Are you looking at doing some time?
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police officer. It was a shoot-out where they shot me. My
bail was a million dollars. Just because the bail is a high-ass
price, I don’t look at it like [I’m going to have to do time]. They
accused me of having dynamite sticks and shit like that. My
bail has always been a million dollars. If you look at my track
record, all my bails have always been a million, half a million,
$700,000, stuff like that. So this little $100,000 bail ain’t shit. I
mean, yeah, they want me to do time, but I don’t think
I’m looking at doing no time. I ain’t worried about
them muthafuckers, man. I’m continuing with
my day. I feel like I’m blessed. I’m still walking
with my head up and my chest out, you
know what I mean? Chin up. I feel
good. I’m not worried about doing
any time. I don’t go into fights to
lose; I fight to win.

You changed your name from


40 Glocc to Big Bad 40. Was that a
legal strategy?
I changed it because everybody was
getting it misconstrued. My name is
really an acronym. The “40” is for 40
acres and a mule, and the G.L.O.C.C.
stands for “Ghetto Legally Oppressed
with Crooked Cops.” But with all
the controversy and the bullshit,
they kept saying that my name
was promoting gang violence
and promoting trouble. They’re
like, “All he does is talk about
gangbangin’.” Well, all I can do
is talk about what I know. This
is what I’ve lived through. I’m
not mad at nobody for being
a gang member. I’m not mad
at nobody for being a Blood
or a Crip or whatever they “if you drop
want to be. But for me, I felt something on a
like it was time to change
and make that transition. I
major label you
was like, “Okay, I’m just Big really aren’t see-
Bad 40,” you know what I ing any dough...
mean? That’s already my
name. I wasn’t scared of
with the type
the courts or nothing like of money I run
that. People can still call through during
me 40 Glocc, but as
you learn in busi-
an average year, it
ness, with all doesn’t even make
the violence sense. The advance
and shit that hap-
pens in America, like the
money wouldn’t
shooting that just hap- even bail me out of
pened in Arizona, the radio jail."
stations don’t want to play a

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song by “40 Glocc.” It kinda puts them in a him with gang enhancement. When people
bad situation. That’s why I transitioned over start realizing what’s going on, that’s when
to Big Bad 40 just to have a new image, and the class action suits are going to come.
a new look. Everybody thinks they know me,
but they don’t really know me. They just lis- What else are you working on music-wise
ten to the music, but it’s regular street music. besides the Spider Loc project?
I’ve got a mixtape album I’m dropping
So they actually read your lyrics in court? strictly on iTunes called “COPS,” and then
Yeah, they were reciting my lyrics in court. my album “New World Agenda.” I moved the
They played every one of my YouTube videos date so I could prepare more. The first single
in court. They did all that. Even the judge I dropped was with Ray J and then I dropped
was like, “You told me you had a case. You the remix with me, Twista, and Yo Gotti, so
didn’t tell me you were bringing in YouTube I’ve just got a slew of shit I’ve been working
videos.” (laughs) He said, “I thought you had on with everybody. I’ve got shit with me, Paul
some real surveillance footage but you’re Wall, Chamillionaire, and OJ da Juiceman.
in my court playing YouTube.” But he still I’ve got a slew of shit. I just finished my next
let them play it, and he didn’t accept it as single too. I’m dropping the video with me,
evidence, but that’s how they structured Snoop, E-40, Xzibit, Too $hort, Ice Cube, and
their whole case against me. If you’re around my man Seven. Everybody’s in the video, it’s
gang members, and they’re trying to show called “Welcome to California,” just intro-
that you’re affiliated, that’s all they have to ducing everybody to this new era. Me and
prove because it’s a civil lawsuit. With a civil Cee-Lo did a record together that’s a banger.
lawsuit, you can’t have a jury trial. They won’t I’m just showing everybody the versatility
let me have a jury trial even though I asked of my music. Everybody thinks I’m on some
for it. The District Attorney didn’t want me bullshit; they just judge me off the Lil Wayne
to have a jury trial because he knows if I was and Baby shit. But a lot of the shit I say, I’m
being judged by my peers, the people would just clowning. If somebody wants to take it
see how they’re adding these loopholes and personally and see me man-to-man, we can
twisting the laws to lock up innocent mutha- do that. But that’s not what it’s about. I’m
fuckers. They don’t want to have a jury trial not trippin’ on Baby or Slim or Wayne or no
because even senior citizens would come in Bloods or Crips. I tripped that time because
and see that they’re violating my consti- he was doing something disrespectful, but
tutional rights. They’re making everybody that shit is from last year. It’s a brand new
criminals. But I don’t think they’re going to year.
realize this until it spreads widely enough
and starts affecting citizens around the So is Cash Money good when they come
globe. When it starts affect their daughters out to L.A. for All Star weekend?
and sons and cousins and uncles and moth- I ain’t got no problem with them niggas.
ers and children, that’s when they will see As long as nobody in their crew is speakin’
what they’re doing. It’s the same as dope. It about me, I ain’t lookin’ for them. It was just
starts in the minority communities but when that one issue, and we nipped it in the bud
it starts reaching the suburbs, it’s a problem. and that’s what it was. There’s still people out
The government put the dope there in the there instigating. People tell me, “Drake has
first place. That’s the same they’re doing with a song with Nicki Minaj and he’s dissing you
the gang injunction shit – they’re labeling on it,” but I’m not the only 40 out there, so I
innocent muthafuckers. They’re labeling didn’t pay attention to that shit. I don’t get
three hundred people in the neighborhood down with all that he-say, she-say shit. I don’t
as gang members. They’re putting every- care about that. If we see each other face-to-
body’s name on the gang injunction even face we’ll see what it is. I’m a pretty up-front
though 80% of them aren’t even active gang nigga. I don’t really have too much to say on
members. They just happen to live in the records either.
neighborhood, you know? It’s gonna start
trickling down into the suburbs. For example, Where are some of the spots people need
let’s say you live in the suburbs but you have to hit when they come to LA for All Star
a kid who’s friends with a gang member. The weekend?
police stop him and he tries to tell them he’s My homegirl SKG is throwing a few parties
not in a gang, but the police assume they’re with Trina and G-Unit. Everybody’s gonna be
in it together. They put him in the gang file in the building, man. Everybody’s gonna be
and the next time he gets pulled over, for a dressed good. Let’s have a ball. It’s All Star
misdemeanor or anything, they’re gonna hit weekend, so it’s all good. //

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TERRACE
MARTINWords by Rand
y Roper
Photo by D-Ray

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Los Angeles rapper/producer Terrace player in the world. He’s the one that put me
Martin shares the break-up story on, and he’s a huge guy in L.A., so he’s playing
that inspired his latest EP, Here, My all over the project. A good friend of mine
Dear. named Mr. Kenneth Crouch, who is a part of
the famous Crouch family, is on the record.
My idea came from the Marvin Gaye record He’s a famous producer; he played with Eric
Here, My Dear, which came out in December Clapton, B.B. King, Mariah Carey, everybody
1978. He had gone through a crazy divorce you could think of. I wanted to reach out to
with his ex-wife, and the whole relationship everybody cause I was trying to mold this
was just crazy. He did the record [under] an project after a lot of Quincy [Jones’] records. It
agreement to give his ex-wife the proceeds wasn’t just Quincy producing all those records,
and the publishing from the record. he had a team. And that’s what I wanted to do.
The biggest ego in the room on this record
I was going through a crazy relationship was the music. I reached out to other produc-
myself, so basically I patterned the whole ers, other keyboard players, other horn players.
project off of that [idea]. It was a very public I just sat back and put the pieces of the puzzle
relationship and it was open to everybody in together, and we have Here, My Dear. It was a
L.A. Everybody knew about me being with beautiful process, ‘cause I also learned how to
this crazy girl and everybody had witnessed do a whole body of work, and try to appeal to
a lot of bullshit throughout the course of the as many people as I possibly could.
relationship. One of my friends that witnessed
some of [the bullshit] is a girl named Devi [My ex-girl] called me after she heard the
Dev [who is also a radio personality]. That’s project. There are a few songs that are aimed
how Devi got involved, ‘cause she came to at her, ‘cause that’s how I felt at the time. And
my house one night like, “The girl you’re with those are the songs she said she was extremely
is crazy. She’s causing scenes. You’re gonna hurt by. And there were other songs that
end up doing a record like Marvin Gaye if made her smile, ‘cause at the end of the day, a
you continue on with this woman.” Anyway, I relationship whether it’s good or bad, to me,
got back with the girl, but when we broke up once you come out of it, we all learn some-
again, I went through a crazy ass depression. I thing. I like the fact that I learned a lot about
hadn’t been doing any music and then I called myself through that relationship, through her. I
Devi, like, “I want to do my own Here, My Dear don’t like a lot of the other bullshit she put me
project.” It was the first project where I really through...
poured out my heart on the project. It’s very
sincere. I did it not caring about radio, not car- The rest of this interview is featured in Ozone
ing about politics, not caring about niggas or Magazine Issue #85:
girls or what anybody said about me, just not
caring and really doing music that hits me in
my spirit and my soul.

The whole project isn’t about this one girl, but


that kicked off the whole thing. At the end of
day I believe God put that person in my life so I
could take a closer look at myself in the mirror
and learn some things about myself that I’ve
been running from, as far as insecurities, and
a lot of other stuff. So I really did this whole
project as in Here, My Dear, saying I’m giving
the girl this last conversation. I’m giving my
old management this last conversation, and
I’m giving the old Terrace Martin this last
conversation in this body of work called Here,
My Dear.

I put hundred and five million percent [into the


project], and this was the first project where I
reached out to a few other musicians. We have
Marion Williams that played guitar on almost
every record, we have Andrew Boucher, he
played with everybody, he’s my favorite bass

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YA BOY
Words by D-Ray

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KONVICT MUSIC ARTIST YA BOY TELLS song they were upset about, because it’s a
OZONE HOW HE’S ABLE TO MAINTAIN RELA- feel-good song.
TIONSHIPS WITH THE GAME AND AKON AND Some people want to turn something like that
STILL GET HOLLYWOOD LOVE FROM PARIS into something negative, and it just shows
HILTON AND BRITNEY SPEARS. their ignorance.

For those who might not be familiar with You’re still running with The Game too, right?
you, can you start off by telling us who YB is Yeah, he’s a busy guy and I’m a busy guy, but
and where you’re from? it’s respect there. I fuck with him and he fucks
YB is short for Ya Boy. I come from the Bay with me. I’ve got my own thing going. I felt like
Area, San Francisco. I started when I was 17 it helped my career a lot when I started fuck-
under San Quinn and Done Deal Entertain- ing with The Game. I was fresh out of the Bay
ment. I’ve got two cousins that are pioneers in and I had no idea what the industry was like or
the Bay Area rap scene – San Quinn and Messy anything as far as independent. Fucking with
Marv. I’m just that young wild nigga. him helped me learn the ropes a little bit. I just
soaked it up and it helped me a lot.
Your first record “16’s With Me” was a hit. How
did it feel to be sitting in the room with all What about Kevin Federline? A lot of people
those DJs as a youngin’ tryin’ to get on and thought that was crazy when you started be-
you played your record and they went wild? ing seen together. How did that come about?
It was a good feeling. I really didn’t expect it I was living in Malibu, and Kevin Federline and
to blow up how it did. Everything that hap- Britney Spears were also living in Malibu so
pens in my life, to me, is a surprise. The results we were like neighbors. Of course I was in the
always end up ten times better than expected, studio out there tearing shit up, and there’s
and that’s a good thing, because I’m always nothing but rich and famous people out there.
surprising myself. When I was trying to get Everybody that went in the studio was just
myself heard there were a million other people blown away by my music, and he was one
trying to get heard, but the people chose me. of them. That’s just my pa’tna, nothing else.
I remember when they first played the song Whenever I go fuck with him or we go out to
on the radio and played it like eight times in a eat or something and Britney was around, the
row. Big Von played it back to back and people paparazzi would start snapping away and I
kept calling me saying, “You’re on the radio!” would be the only little hood nigga in these
It was the best feeling ever. That was my first USA Weekly and OK! Magazines...
taste of stardom back then.
The rest of this interview is featured in Ozone
Today you have one of the hottest songs on Magazine Issue #85:
Power 106 in Los Angeles, so that has to be
a blessing. How does that feel to be getting
love on Power 106 as a Bay Area artist?
That’s huge. It’s so hard to get played and even
get one spin on L.A. radio, so for me to be in
heavy rotation and have the number one song
on L.A. radio, that’s crazy.

There was a lot of controversy behind the


record “We Run L.A.” What is it about, from
your perspective?
The song was paying homage to the city of
Los Angeles. I moved out here when I was
young. I lived out here for a few years and I see
where it’s going. It’s a beautiful city. I see a lot
of people – models, movie stars, actresses, ac-
tors – coming out here trying to make it. It was
basically just a theme song for them. I was pay-
ing homage to the city sort of like Tupac did
with “To Live And Die In L.A.” A lot of people
misunderstood the concept at first.

When I heard people talking about you in the


streets I didn’t understand why that was the

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BOYZ lia Beverly
Words by Ju ay
Photo by D-R

(l to r): Legacy, Ben J

BEST KNOWN FOR POPULARIZING “JERK Did it kinda overshadow the music?
MUSIC” AND WEARING REALLY, REALLY Legacy: Oh yeah, of course, at first. It was so
TIGHT JEANS, THE NEW BOYZ ARE BACK different, and the fact that we had a dance,
WITH A NEW ALBUM AND AIM TO SHOW that’s why in the beginning we were known
THE SKEPTICS THEIR DIVERSITY. as “those jerk kids,” you know? That’s why we
had to really go extra hard on this album. I
You guys are getting ready to drop a new feel like if you come out [first] with a dance
album, right? record, you’ve gotta work twice as hard
Legacy: Yeah, it’s called Too Cool to Care, and [afterwards] or that’s all you’re going to be
it’s supposed to come out this spring. We known for. But we’re definitely confident
just dropped the first official single off the with this album. Once this shit gets out
album, “Backseat.” there, it’s gonna be all good.

Are you going in a different direction It seems like the West Coast traditionally
musically with this project? has been known more for gangsta music,
Legacy: Originally, our first album was based especially during the Death Row days. Do
off the whole “jerkin’” thing, but we don’t you feel like this is a new era for the West
want to be put in a box. That’s why our sec- Coast that you guys are able to be a part
ond single “Tie Me Down” was so different. of?
On this new album, we’re just showing our Legacy: Definitely. I think the West Coast is
artistic side and showing what we’re really in a good state right now, and there’s a lot
capable of outside of the jerkin’ movement. of artists that aren’t doing gangsta rap. You
know, Dom Kennedy, Kendrick Lamar, Tyga,
Do you feel like people know you more for I think right now it’s about fashion and fun
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is in a good state, and it feels good to be a part Legacy: Well, our jeans, first off, they aren’t as
of that right now during this come up. tight as they used to be. They’re definitely not
as tight as they were in [the video for] “You
When we interviewed The Pack at one point, A Jerk.” But we sagged ‘em. They wouldn’t be
they felt like they had inspired your style and comfortable if you ain’t sag ‘em, but we used to
didn’t really get credit for it. Would you say sag ‘em like crazy.
that’s accurate or was it a misunderstanding? Ben J: It was just our swag.
Legacy: We did us, we definitely didn’t [steal Legacy: Skater swag. If it wasn’t comfortable
their style]. It wasn’t inspired by them, but you we wouldn’t rock them.
know, that’s old stuff. We got over it. That shit Ben J: But then again, we’re skinny dudes, so
got squashed probably like a year ago, so, it’s we can fit in ‘em.
all good.
You guys were actually called the Swagger
You guys started pretty early, right? Were you Boyz at first, right?
still in school when you got signed? Legacy: For like five minutes, yeah. (laughs)
Ben J: Yeah, we had to switch schools to be Ben J: A class period.
able to study at home. We were going to Legacy: Yeah, then we changed the name
school hard the whole year right until we really quick.
graduated. That was in 2009, our graduating
year. You decided that “Swagger” was too played
Legacy: That was my deadline year. My whole out or why’d you change it?
life I was like, “I gotta get signed before I Legacy: Well, back then the word “swag” wasn’t
graduate.” played out yet, but I’m glad we didn’t call
ourselves that. (laughs) We were just going
Were you guys the popular kids on campus? through a bunch of names and when we came
Ben J: Somewhat. up with the New Boyz, we stuck with it.
Legacy: Yeah, you could say that. It wasn’t hard
to be popular at our school though. Everybody Do you guys have anything planned for All
was popular, even the nerds. (laughs) Star weekend?
Ben J: Yeah, our manager is working on some
One of you produces most of your tracks as shows right now. We’re gonna be out there all
well, right? weekend for the All Star game.
Legacy: Yeah, I produce. Well, I used to go really Legacy: Yeah, I just moved right by [the Staples
hard with it when I had Frooty Loops. I’ve got Center] so we’re gonna be goin’ hard that
Logic now and I’m learning the program. I’m weekend. We love when events be poppin’ in
trying to get back on my production. our city.

Do you feel like you, or your generation of Aside from your new single “Backseat” and
rappers, gets respect from the older heads? the upcoming album, is there anything else
Or do you hear a lot of the “that’s not real Hip you want people to look out for?
Hop” comments? Ben J: Yeah, we both dropped our mixtapes.
Legacy: We get hate from people who have Mine is called Chill Talk and Legacy’s is called
only heard the jerk record and are only looking Your New Favorite Rapper. You can get them
at the dance scene. But we started getting both on www.HotNewHipHop.com. Outside
more respect from people who noticed that of music, we’re in this movie called Where The
we could actually rap. You know, when people Party At? so be on the lookout for that. Legacy
heard “Cricketz” and stuff like that. Some shoots videos too, so if you need some videos
people were saying that they don’t really done hit up Rule Blind Films. We’ve got our
dress how we dress, but they still respect the own record label poppin’ off too, 100 Records.
fact that we’re doing our thing and pushing
our [style] even though people are knocking Is there anything else that you want to plug
it. So it’s like mixed reactions. But that’s why or mention?
we’re still working hard, so we can get more Ben J: Follow us on twitter.com/ImBenJ. That’s
and more respect. We’re gonna keep putting my personal page.
out material and make sure it gets better and Legacy: Mine is twitter.com/ThaLegacy. To all
better. the fans, thanks for all the love. We’re gonna
be uploading a lot of videos at www.Youtube.
I have to be honest, the skinny jeans don’t com/NewBoyzTV, and make sure you go pick
look too comfortable. What made you decide up our new album Too Cool to Care. Don’t sleep
to start dressing that way? on it. //

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THE PACK
The Bay Area foursome follows up the success of “Vans”
and “My Car”with a new sound on Wolfpack Party

Words by Julia Beverly

(l-r): Lil Uno, Young L, Lil B, & Stunnaman

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Would you say you switched up your sound techno than your previous projects.
a little bit with this new project, Wolfpark Young L: Yeah, I think that’s because we got
Party? What’s your vision moving forward? some outside assistance from the leader of
Young L: I haven’t been making an effort to the Cataracs. He produced “Wolfpack Party”
switch up the sound, that’s just what hap- and “Sex on the Beach,” which have more of
pened. I think I’ve just been changing [as a a dance flavor. The album is called Wolfpack
producer] but I wasn’t necessarily trying to Party, so it’s designed in a way that people
change the sound of the group intentionally. can just put the CD in and keep the party
going.
You have some tracks on this album, espe- Lil Uno: Personally, I’d say I’m pretty consis-
cially the singles, that sound more dance/ tent. I feel like the album has more of a

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dance flavor. The album is called Wolfpack driving home listening to music and I make
Party, so it’s designed in a way that people can some [beats] in the house, you know, all I need
just put the CD in and keep the party going. is some energy. I’m not a person who needs
Lil Uno: Personally, I’d say I’m pretty consistent. alcohol or pills or anything like that to make
I feel like the album has more of a mature beats. It comes naturally to me.
sound. It all depends on the beat, you know,
and that’s how I vibe to it. A lot of people expect that Hip Hop groups
won’t last too long since they always seem to
Do you think that expanding your sound is break up. Even though you all have branched
broadening your audience? off and done other projects, what do you
Young L: I think it could broaden the audience think has kept The Pack together?
more towards people who like dance music, Young L: I think one thing that has kept us to-
because it’ll attract those kinds of people to gether was knowing that we couldn’t really be
our music. Also, I think it’s just kinda the right successful without each other at that time. We
time for us. So yeah. were aware of the fact that we needed to do
a Pack album before any of us could have any
Have you been getting more attention from success solo. That kept us together, and I think
mainstream outlets aside from just the “ur- dedication as well. You don’t want the group to
ban” side of things? think of you as a traitor. And we all know each
Young L: A little bit. It is geared towards some other very well. Nobody knows us as well as
of the electronic dance music kind of thing, so we do. There’s a lot of history that we would be
I’m sure there are some new people that fuck shitting on if we were to break up. The reason
with us now. we stay together is more on a personal tip
than the music thing.
What have you been working on indepen- Lil Uno: From my point of view, I’d say we’re all
dently of the group? in this because we know what we want to do
Lil Uno: I’ve been working on this LUT project. with our music and how we want to go about
It’s not really a group, they’re just like family it. We all have a unique sound, so when we put
and we make music together. The LUT stands it all together it sounds good. It’s fun and ev-
for Loyalty, Unity, and Teacher. erybody else likes our music too. But we were
Young L: I am putting out some solo shit. I friends first before anything. We have a lot of
don’t really want to go into too much detail memories. Between the music, the past, and
about it, but I am doing some deep shit. I’ve the relationships we’ve formed, we understand
got a lot of beats on the project The Jacka is each other. I know what makes everybody in
doing with Freeway. I’ve also got a lot of songs the group mad. I know which buttons to push
with Husalah. I’m doing a lot of stuff also in my and which buttons not to push. And we all
own camp. We’ve been doing some mixtapes know that about each other because we’ve
just to keep the online shit poppin’. I could been together for so long. I grew up with Stun-
make beats all day but I can’t write raps all day. naman. I met him in seventh grade when I was
I do more production than anything. I always skateboarding. I met D - Uno - in high school.
wanted to be a rapper but the way my person- I spent more time with D in high school than
ality is, I had to kind of put that on hold for a with any other guy that I knew at the time.
while. That’s why I was the last person in the That’s really how we got to know each other.
group to start rapping. The way my personality
is, I don’t enjoy rapping at all. I’m not really an So I see you’re the one who called in on time
outgoing person. I felt like I had an opportu- for the interview. Are you the responsible
nity to do it so I should do it, but my first love one of the group? (laughs)
has always been producing. I like to get in that Young L: I just make sure I handle the shit that
zone. I can make the most beats from 12 at needs to be handled. If we go to a club, we go
night til like 3:30 in the morning. That’s when I to the club promoting our records. So if we go
make the most beats. to the club I’ll be the one to pick up Uno on
the way. If I have to pick up whoever, I’ll pick
When you go into the studio for a session them up. I’m just trying to make shit happen.
what are a few things you need to help get I don’t want to say that [the other members]
you in that zone? aren’t responsible but I would say I’m pretty
Young L: To keep it real, I don’t need any- responsible when it comes to handling stuff
thing. I only need my energy. I’m the kind of for my group or for music in general.
person who sleeps a lot and I don’t have a lot You guys were at the forefront of the whole
of energy in general, but when I get to that skater style/movement.
point later in the day I get more energy. If I’m Young L: We definitely were at the forefront of

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that when it was poppin’. And it wasn’t that we
rode that momentum. We really did that shit, Now that you’ve stopped pushing the whole
like skateboarding. I still skateboard. We were skateboard style and movement, what do
really serious about our shit. At one point I was you see being the next trend?
in a skateboard group with a few other people Young L: I really don’t know. That’s a good
and we made a skateboard time and sold it. question, but I don’t think I can predict that. It’s
We were really serious about it. The reason we just one of those things that’s gonna happen.
stopped pushing that movement was because People never know who the next hot artist is
so many people were trying to claim it and we or how he’s going to sound. The only thing I
didn’t want to seem like one of those posers know for sure about the future of music is that
trying to claim the movement because it was the internet is going to be at the forefront of
popular at the time. everything.
Lil Uno: I think our style influenced a lot of Lil Uno: I just want people to hear our music
young artists that are up and coming. We’re and see that we’re the same dudes, just a
not scared to express ourselves, so when other little more mature. I want people to listen to
people see that, they feel like because we’re our music and have fun, because that’s the
young and not scared and talking nasty, they reason we do it. Usually we just talk about ass
can do that too. shaking and smoking weed [in our music]. I
don’t smoke weed and I’ve never actually been
What would happen if the New Boyz and drunk, but as far as smoking as partying, you
The Pack ran into each other backstage at a know, that’s what we rapped about. Being
show? Do you guys still have problems? fresh, that’s all we ever used to rap about. On
Young L: I don’t know. I didn’t really have a this album we have songs like “Unique,” that’s
problem with them. The only problem was kinda like mood music, and “Worry About
that they said our name in a song; that’s what Mine,” which is like some classical music. Then
made it an issue. If I saw them, it would be we’ve got the track “Superman.” We usually just
whatever they wanted it to be. If they wanted rap about booties and stuff like that, so this
a problem there would be a problem. I mean, I time I felt like we expanded our rapping.
don’t really care about the New Boyz like that.
I’m don’t really want to beat them up or any- Do you think anyone has taken the skinny
thing. They’re a lot younger than me. I’m 23. jeans trend too far?
Young L: I’ve got friends that rock the skinny
Did you feel like they were kinda taking your jeans but I don’t even wear skinny jeans...
style?
Young L: There are a lot of groups that are in The rest of this interview is featured in Ozone
the same lane as us. Like, The Cool Kids. They Magazine Issue #85:
were in the same lane as us. We weren’t neces-
sarily making the same music but we were
both young and coming out with music that
was trendy. I saw an interview with them and
they shouted us out. We met other groups like
Audio Push who were hella cool and showed
love. We met Cold Flamez and they were cool.
There weren’t any other groups aside from the
New Boyz, now that I think about it, that really
took our style to that level like they did. I just
felt like there were plenty of opportunities to
shout us out or thank us for helping to open
the door for them or saying, “We like to listen
to The Pack and they’re one of our inspira-
tions.” I know that’s the truth because people
had our songs before they had music to jerk
to. I know that they at least knew who we were
and didn’t say anything to pay respect. So it
was an insult to say something about us on a
record, on top of kinda, you know, making an
effort to steal our swag. That’s how I felt about
it and that’s how a lot of people who don’t
even know me felt about it. People who were
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Words by Ni ay
Photo by D-R

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“Succeed Never Fail,” is the motto this be superior in the Bay and I think you should
Bay Area artist eats, breaths and strive bigger than that. Rather if you’re from
lives by. Since beginning his music the South, from the Bay, from NY, I feel like you
career at the young age of 14, Nio should try to be the biggest in each market,
Tha Gift has proven that he’s here not just your market. I feel like if people just
to stay. The lyricist’s (calling him a stick to their guns rather than just trying to do
rapper would be an understatement) what works, if people just continue to stick to
career has grown rapidly within what makes them, then people will succeed
the last few years. His highly antici- a lot faster. I think that’s what I do, I just took
pated album H.I.P. H.O.P. (Here I present the job of giving the people me. I don’t hide
a Hero of Poverty) released in 2009, anything, I don’t sugar coat anything. This is
has attracted over 40,000 viewers me in its rawest uncut form, I just dress it up so
and downloads. With his hit singles it’s presentable.
“Grateful” and “Angels & Demons,” this
lyricist has a profound way of speak- Over 40,000 viewers got a chance to see a
ing that would make anyone have an glimpse into your life when your video for
emotional connection to his music. “Grateful” was released. What kind of impact
The first single, “Never Gon’ Change,” has that video and single had on your career
off his upcoming project, Super Hero, so far?
lets you know, “don’t play that Hol- The funny thing about that record is, I actually
lywood card with me, I am not that wrote that in January 2009, this was right after
dude, I don’t play that shit!” the Oscar Grant situation and I was in LA. I
was sitting in the hotel with my cousin and
For the people who haven’t heard of you yet, stumbled across this beat I had in my email
what would you want them to know about from one of my producers JL. I had the email
you as an artist? for three years and I never opened the email or
That every one of my lines are real and that I’m heard the beat before in my life, until that day.
living every single bar. When I first heard the beat, the hook instantly
popped into my head, as soon as I found the
Not too long ago you showed your fans a melody the words just popped into my head.
different side to your musical talent – Nio tha I actually wrote “Grateful” in about fifteen
Gift the Sang-er. How have most of your fans minutes. I was out in LA with my boy Taj [who
reacted to this? Have other artists asked you directed the video], and I met up with him
to sing on their tracks? later on that day and we were at a video shoot
It’s kinda just a mixture of both, a lot of people in and he had walked over to one of his bud-
try to get me to do a verse and a hook on their dies and he came back to me and said, “you
songs. My fans haven’t all the way caught on wanna shoot a video?” and I said, “Hell yeah I
to the fact that I’m singing the records ’cause wanna shoot a video!” So he asked me, “well
it’s not like auto tune or anything like that. what you got,” [and] I told him about “Grateful”
When they see me they don’t see the typical and said, “its not recorded yet, I just wrote it
R&B guy, they don’t expect this soulful type like three hours ago,” so I spit a little of it for
of voice to come out of me. I think they just him. When I got back to the Bay I recorded the
don’t know, a lot of people just don’t know but song and I was back in LA a week later with a
everybody has their time to find out. finished product. He was asking me did I want
to switch the song and I was like naw, I can’t
I’ve read a lot of reviews from people who switch the song cause God wants me to put
listened to your music, and even in my own out this song. Ever since the day that I wrote
personal opinion, you’re style isn’t compa- that record I knew that it was gonna be one of
rable to other Bay area artists. What would those ones ’cause that day my pen was moving
you say sets you aside from other artists on faster than usual, and it was kind of like I knew
the West Coast? it needed to be said from me.
Well, I just feel like God makes everybody
special in their own way. Everything I do is God After releasing a career changing album like
driven. I like to pride myself on just being me, H.I.P. H.O.P (Here I Present a Hero of Poverty),
being different. I don’t really like to get into the do you feel that pressure is on you for your
whole West coast artist or Bay artist. I just try next album to be just as great or greater?
to make sure I’m able to compete with the rest Naw, I don’t really believe in pressure...
of the talent in the world. I feel like wherever
the bar is, that’s were I’m trying to exceed. A To read the rest of this interview, log on to
lot of people fall into that shell of just trying to www.ozonemag.com

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PROBLEM lia Beverly
Words by Just Rock
Photo by Ju

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COMPTON RAPPER Problem plans to I want to brand Problem. I want the world to
capitalize off the momentum created know who Problem is, what Diamond Lane is,
by his record “my ex” and ride the and really embrace me for me. I’m not trying
wave of bay-to-l.a. california unity to be anybody else. I want to develop a fan
ALL THE WAY to the top. base of people that fuck with me and fuck with
my music. I just can’t wait to see the response.
Do you have any parties or events planned So far so good. I’ve only been leaking shit for
for All Star weekend? about a month and I’ve already received calls
They’re gonna see me in the streets. I’m every- from five different labels and a whole lot of
where. A couple places are trying to book me great situations have been offered. I’m just
but nothing is set yet. I plan on being every- having fun right now.
where. You’re gonna see Problem everywhere,
all weekend. Watch! You seem like you go hard for a little while,
then chill a bit, and then go hard again. What
What are some of the hot spots in L.A. that do you think it’ll take to motivate you to go
out-of-towners need to hit? one hundred percent without falling back?
The city is gonna be so booming, man. If you Well, I have to go through all these stages of
want to shop, everyone goes to the Beverly going hard and pulling back because I was
Center. It’s crazy because I was out here per- just runnin’ around out here like a chicken
forming live when I was younger and I can just with my head cut off. I really didn’t have a
see the difference. This shit is gonna be crazy structure, I was just excited that people were
out here, man. liking me. Then you have to deal with it when
you don’t have the hot song out no more and
Let’s talk about what you have coming up people start acting different. It’s just life. And
music-wise. Is “My Ex” your official single, now I feel like there’s no possible way I could
or just something you leaked out to keep lose, because I sat back and really formulated
people talking? What’s the status on that? a plan. When you see a plan being executed
I was just recording and my boy Felli [Fel] and goals being achieved, you can’t lose. They
heard it and asked for a copy of it clean [for never got to see me, they just heard me. This is
radio], so I shot it to him, and it just took off the first time the world gets to see me.
from there. All of these were songs I was doing
for my project What’s the Problem? that I’ma So these videos you’re shooting now are your
be dropping real soon. Just like the “Lobster” first visuals?
record, that’s been doing real good too. I don’t My first real visuals. I mean, DJ Skee shot my
really have an official single right now, but if first video for the “America” record and that
“My Ex” is working and people are fuckin’ with got over 200,000 plays. I did a few other videos
it, that’s what I’m fuckin’ with too, you know? myself. I never really had label support, it was
just me and my squad tryin’ to do it. You have
Is What’s the Problem? going to be an actual to really formulate a plan when you have a
album release or more like a mixtape? great idea. It’s in the pot for real, I swear. Listen,
It’s bigger than a mixtape, man. It’s gonna be I guarantee you this, no bullshit man, this time
an event. When you’ve got a title like What’s next year we will be having this same conver-
the Problem? you’re gonna have to understand sation and you’re gonna be like, “Damn, nigga,
who I am by the end of it and who you’re that’s what you said.” I promise you.
dealing with. There will be no mysteries about
me at all. I’m going to give you every side of Who else do you see coming from California
me. There’s a visual shot for every song. I just that’s in the same lane as you?
started making a couple of the visuals recently. Everybody’s poppin’ right now. You’ve got
It’s gonna be a movie for real. I know people Kendrick Lamar, YG, Skeme, Joe Moses, Dom
say that a lot, but this is gonna be a movie for Kennedy, Terrace Martin, man, it’s so many
real. It’s a lot of original records. people right now. Everybody is all fuckin’ with
each other too. It’s crackin’ right now.
Are you still independent or do you have a
label releasing this project? Do you think the relationship between L.A.
I’m under Diamond Lane Music Group, that’s artists and Bay Area artists has gotten bet-
what I’m pushing right now. I’m not signed ter? Seems like there’s more California unity.
anywhere else. I’m still indie and I plan on I actually just came from up there and I know
keeping it that way. I’ve had [major labels] of at least three different Bay to L.A. projects
calling, but that’s just not what I’m interested that are being worked on right now. I’m
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names I just mentioned are included too, so Sometimes people think that just because
trust me, before we can get out to the rest of you’re in entertainment that a nigga doesn’t
the world we’ve got to get our house right. have a heart and all that shit. It’s not like that
The big homie Snoop’s album is finna drop, I’ve at all. It’s just like any other job – people get
got two joints on there. The Game is dropping to see the one side, but y’all don’t get to see
some mixtapes, 40 finna drop. So I know for a the other side. You can’t judge it until you’re
fact the relationship is getting better. in it. You’ve got to have a lot of good family
and some real understanding parents, and I
What kind of responses did you get from commend the mothers of my children, for real.
your OZONE sex issue interview? They’re real cool.
(laughs) I still get people hittin’ me about that
issue. A lot of girls are like, “Damn, boy, are you What else are you working besides music?
for real or are you just playin’?” or, “You’re all I was trying to get into this little acting thing.
talk.” And then the females that really know I had a couple opportunities so I’m trying to
me, they were like, “Damn, you just gonna tell see what’s up with that. I can’t really say that
everything?” I want to do anything else besides music. I
really love to do music. If not mine, somebody
“[rapping] is no dif- else’s. When opportunities present themselves,
I definitely try to take them all. All my skills
ferent from be- revolve around music. I produce as well. I want
ing a truck driver to try to get into TV and film production, as far
as scores and stuff like that. I have a lot of dif-
that has to be gone ferent interests but it all involves music.
for weeks at a Do you have any big features we should be
time. people think looking out for?

just because you’re I got a song coming out with Terrace Martin,
featuring somebody major that’s definitely
in entertainment a gonna make a lot of noise. I ain’t gonna say
who it is but it’s one of my homeboys that had
nigga doesn’t have a great year in 2010. He had a fantastic year
a heart. it’s not and I’ve got a record dropping with him. I pray
I’m still on the 9th Wonder album.
like that at all.” Was “My Ex” sparked by a certain situation?
Yeah, I was high. I was way loaded one night.
Were your baby mamas mad at you for dis- I was lookin’ for my ex-girl and she wouldn’t
cussing the threesome you had with them? answer the fuckin’ phone. Man, I was hot. But
Naw, because it’s actually three baby mamas I was so high I was just singin’ “damn, I feel like
and [that story] only involved two of them. So fuckin’ my ex,” and I’m so loaded that I don’t
they were all able to keep their little lies up, stop singin’ it once I hang up the phone. So I
you know what I’m sayin’? They all pretended figured out how to play the keys or whatever
it wasn’t them. So I really got out of that one. and made the beat and made the hook and
just talked about how I was feelin’ at that very
Do you have a lot of child support to pay? moment.
Three baby mamas?
Naw. You only have to pay child support when What’s your drug of choice?
you don’t support your child. You know, I’ve (laughs) Weed. I smoke marijuana, that’s my
been making money in this business for a main source of ignorance. I love to get high.
while. Just because y’all don’t see me doesn’t I used to do the pills a lot but I don’t fuck
mean I ain’t being heard. around too much no more. I had some wild,
wild experiences off the pills. I got to a point
How do you have time to spend with three where I got to chill out on certain shit. I’m a
kids in addition to launching your career? little older now, you know what I’m sayin’?
I mean, I’m not going to say it’s not hard. It’s
hard, but I can’t be selfish because I’m the How can people get in touch with you?
main supplier of how [my children] eat. If Hit me on that Twitter.com/ItsAProblem. My
that’s the job I have to do, then that’s the job I Tumblr is Problem354 and I’ve got a website
have to do. It’s no different from being a truck being built right now, ItsAProblem.com. Dia-
driver that has to be gone for weeks at a time. mond Lane Music Group. //

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AFTER GETTING RELEASED FROM WARNER I mean, first off, touring. I had like seven deals
BROS., WATTS REPRESENTATIVE JAY ROCK [offered to me] and no other label could
LINKED UP WITH TECH N9NE’S STRANGE offer me the opportunity to tour as much
MUSIC AND HIT THE ROAD TO MEET HIS as Strange Music does. The major labels
FANS ACROSS THE COUNTRY. HERE, HE couldn’t offer me touring and merchandise
REFLECTS ON LEAVING THE STREET LIFE and things of that nature. When I hooked up
BEHIND AND HITTING THE STUDIO WITH with Strange, within a week or two of clos-
DR. DRE. ing the deal, I was on the road. They’ve got
merchandise people, everything. Every day
I hear you linked up with Tech N9ne and we’d get up and do meet and greets with the
Strange Music. That sounds like an interest- fans, and that was crazy to me. They’ve really
ing collaboration. got it going on, and that’s what I love to do,
It’s real good. Shout out to my boy Tech just being on that road and touring and con-
N9ne. I’ve been on the road with him. I just necting with the fans.
got off the Independent Grind Tour with him,
E-40, and Glasses Malone. It was a real good In some of the new cities you visited, were
look. you surprised that the fans already knew
your music?
They have a completely different style and Yeah, it was amazing. The type of fans Tech
stage performance from a lot of the rappers has – for these dudes to know who I was – I
that are out today. With your music being was like, wow. At the first show I did “All My
more on a gangsta vibe, why did you think Life” and people already knew the lyrics to
Strange Music was a good home for you? the song. That was crazy, because I didn’t
Basically, I like the way Tech N9ne vibes with expect that. People knew who I was and they
his fans, man. That’s one thing about me, even more excited than I was. They were like,
man, at the end of the day it’s about the fans. “I’m so happy for you, man, I always wanted
Being on the road and being in our fans’ you to sign with Tech N9ne.” That was amaz-
faces at every show, that’s a big thing to me. ing for them to show me that much love,
Just being on the road and connecting with man. I ain’t even expect it to be like that.
the fans was the best thing that could ever They knew who I was; they were familiar with
happen to me. my face and a lot of my records. That was a
really big thing for me.
They’re doing it real big on an independent
level. So you’re really focused on being on the
Exactly. They’re one of the biggest indepen- road and building your buzz up again,
dent companies that’s out right now, and or do you have an actual release date or
that dude’s grind is crazy. We’ve been on that album plans?
same grind too, so just to hook up with what I’m gonna continue to be on the road doing
they already have rolling is a beautiful thing. shows, but I do have a release date of May
17th, 2011. The album is called Follow Me
You were in the Warner Bros system before, Home and it’s a classic album, straight up.
right? So this was the same album that Warner
Yeah, everybody knew my situation over never released, right? Have you revamped it?
there with Warner Bros. I had a cold record Oh yeah, I’ve got a lot of new records. The
with me, Lil Wayne, and Will.I.Am called “All production is crazy. I’ve got some of my
My Life,” that was one of the hottest records I in-house producers plus J.U.S.T.I.C.E. League,
ever did. Everybody loved it. The label didn’t Tha Bizness, Cool & Dre, DJ Quik and a lot
quite have my back on it like they should more. Hopefully, Lord willing, I’ll have a Dr.
have, but I don’t want to knock Warner. I’d Dre track on there.
like to thank them for giving me the time and
the opportunity and the chance to do what I That would be major. How did you get a
do. But me and my team were just unhappy hold of Dr. Dre? That sounds pretty exclu-
with the way things were going. Everybody sive.
thought I got dropped, but that wasn’t the The other day I had the chance to really be
situation. We went in there and got my walk- in the studio and work with that dude, man,
ing papers. and it was like a dream come true. It was
crazy to see the way he works. It was a bless-
Now that you’ve seen how the major label ing. I never thought in a million years I’d be
system works, being with an independent in the studio with Dr. Dre. This is a dude that
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young, you know? I never thought I’d be in tion and been able to give them a more
the lab with him. The vibe was real, real epic. positive focus?
That dude right there is focused. That dude is Yeah, of course. People come up to me all the
a perfectionist, straight up. (laughs) time, especially when I was on the road. A lot
Did you record something with him or were of people were like, “Man, your music helped
you just throwing some ideas around? me get through,” and I’d tell them, “Don’t
We were just vibing in the studio, man. That’s ever give up on your dream.” Whatever you
where the magic happens. When people vibe want to do in life, just pursue it, man. Don’t
together that’s where the magic happens. It let nobody tell you nothing. Just stay away
was real crazy. I’m trying to get back in the from the negative, and if you want it you can
studio with Dr. Dre real, real soon. get it. Go hard in whatever you’re trying to
He doesn’t work with a lot of new artists. Did do, whether it’s music, or school, or whatever
he tell you why he was impressed with you? your goal is. If you’ve got a goal, pursue your
He said he’d heard a song that me and Kend- goal. Just do it and don’t give up.
rick [Lamar] did together. He said, “Man, you
hard.” (laughs) For him to say that, that was Do you feel like there’s more unity now on
amazing to me. the West Coast?
Of course, we’re all getting together. Every-
That’s a big compliment coming from him. body is out here doing their thing and every-
So Kendrick Lamar is with Top Dawg, your body’s making good music, so why not get
original record label? together? Ain’t nobody hating on nobody
Yeah, me and K Dot started out together with else. We can all be one, man. We’re all trying
Top Dawg. Me and Kendrick have been work- to get to the top together.
ing together for years, grindin’. That’s my little
bro right there. We been doing our thing, we Are you doing any events for All Star week-
been on our grind forever. end that people should know about?
Yeah, man, it’s a lot of stuff going on right
So you’re still Top Dawg affiliated even now. I’m gonna be in all the spots and you
though you signed with Strange Music? can catch me out there in the streets. Wher-
Yeah, of course, it’s still Top Dawg. Don’t get ever it’s poppin’ at, that’s where I’m gonna
it twisted. Top Dawg Entertainment and be. //
Strange Music joined forces together, feel
me? We’re together on the same grind.

In one of our earlier interviews you


talked about how Top Dawg sort of
kidnapped you in the studio and forced
you to focus on your music. Have
you been able to leave the street life
behind?
(laughs) Ah, yeah. You know, I’m still out
here, but my focus is music. It’s crazy that
you said that; shout out to dude Dawg.
That’s Top Dawg, man, he was like a real
big homie. He saw me in the streets just
acting up and being hard-headed, and
he knew I had the talent to rap. A lot
of people knew I had the talent to rap.
Everybody was on me like, “You got it,
man, we want you to do that music, don’t
be out here [bangin’].” All my friends
and family were telling me that, so I
figured if that’s my calling, I gotta do it. If
everybody’s telling me to keep doing the
music, you know, that’s love. That’s where
my focus is now.

Have you had any opportunities to re-


turn the favor? Have you seen anybody
else that was going in the wrong direc-

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MESSY MARV
Everybody knows you’re a West Coast dude, Is there anything else that needs to be
but you’ve been moving around a lot lately. hashed out or are you just ready to move
Did you just need a change of scenery? forward and forget the whole situation?
As a whole, [artists] in the Bay Area are just I would like to do that, to just move forward
content with where we are. That’s just my and forget about the situation, but things take
opinion. I fuck with a lot of different people time. Wounds take time to heal, especially
around the world, and I’m out networking and ones like these. So whenever we decide to
trying to build my brand. come around and sit down, we will.

Do you think living in different places affects Why did you feel like it was important to
your style of music? squash it?
I don’t feel like I have a particular sound. You’re The beef didn’t affect me when it came to re-
gonna hear a little South, a little Midwest, a cord sales or nothing like that. I do remarkable
little East, and you’re definitely going to hear numbers independently anyway. It was just
the West cause that’s where I’m from. That’s getting out of hand, and Quinn felt the same
the problem, man, everybody’s caught up in way. When shit like this happens, innocent
how you’re “supposed” to sound. I ain’t caught people can get fucked up. So we’re coming
up in none of that shit, man. I’m me. I ain’t got together to let these kids know, and let the
nothing to prove. Every time I drop, I sell a people know, we’re bigger than rap music.
substantial amount of units, so I’m good. We’re gonna put our differences to the side
and move forward like men. That doesn’t mean
How do you think you’re able to maintain me and San Quinn are gonna hang out every
that kind of fanbase without a major label day. You might not catch me at McDonald’s
behind you and without having that main- sitting down with the nigga eating no cheese-
stream look? burger or nothing. But we’re definitely gonna
Because I’m out here networking. I built my put our differences to the side and squash this
worth. shit like men do and move forward with what
you’re doing.
Are you going to get out and start doing
more shows now? You don’t give the people Is it your ultimate goal to be on a major label
too many opportunities to see you. And with your video all over TV and your songs all
you’re in high demand because of that fact. over the radio? Or are you more comfortable
I’m planning my 30-city tour right now. But being in theunderground position you’re in,
before I do that, I’m building my online pres- still selling independent units?
ence. I’m doing a radio show. I’m on Twitter, I’m a street nigga, so the hustle is in me.
Facebook, and Myspace. I’m going to get out Independently, I feel like this is what I’ve got
here and give the people what they’ve been to do because this is what I know. Of course I
waiting for. wanna take it to another level as far as media,
publications, and sales. But I’m not gonna just
What’s going on with you and San Quinn? make commercial music and chase million-
The beef was pretty ugly at one point but dollar dreams. I’ve had paperwork in my face
you recently mentioned on Twitter that you for two million, three million. I turned those
guys had squashed it. How were you able to deals down just based on what they want to
get to that point? take from me and what I’ve built.
People have different opinions on every-
thing. Quinn had an opinion on how he felt I What did they want to take from you? Pub-
should’ve handled some things, and I had my lishing?
opinion on how I felt he should’ve handled Publishing. How many albums they want, what
some things. It escalated when the media and I’m limited to do, just [giving up] the freedom I
the people grabbed ahold of it. You know how have as an independent. They wanted to take
that shit goes. But mutual friends of ours have that all away from me for that little amount
been trying to squash it since day one. Me and of money. That few million is a little amount
Quinn ain’t even talked yet. Things take time. of money. I can make that in a year. Last year
Whenever he comes around, or whenever I I released 100 songs. I don’t remember how
come around, we can sit down and talk. But many albums - five, I think. [I sold] over 50,000
for now we’re just going through our mutual at $6/unit, so that deal didn’t look like shit to
friend from the turf and just putting it all me. I definitely would like to further my career
behind us. But really, it wasn’t no beef - it was but I’m not gonna make commercial music
just two opinions being stated and just how tryin’ to chase this muthafuckin’ dream that
two men felt at the particular time. might not even turn into reality. I’m gon’ keep

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this shit solid. I keep the people feeling like sound the same.
I’m one of them, because I am. That’s why I’ve
been so successful. I’m one of the people they Do you think it’s lack of ambition or just be-
recognize and they’re like, “I’m just like that ing too comfortable?
nigga.” That’s why my core fanbase won’t let I guess everybody’s comfortable with it, and
me die. I ain’t did a show in three years, but I ain’t knockin’ it. But I’ma tell the world a dif-
I’m able to maintain my sales and my presence ferent story as far as the Bay Area. But I ain’t
through the internet, the publications, and the mad. Everybody’s playing a part. Everybody’s
media. That’s just a blessing. The fans won’t let representing, and that’s what it is.
me die.
Have you officially changed your name to
What project are you working on now? The Boy Boy Mess or is that basically just an
I just dropped Highly Aggressive Volume alias of Messy Marv?
2 yesterday. I’ve got a documentary and a I officially changed my name to The Boy Boy
soundtrack coming out called Gigantic, which Young Mess ‘cause I officially changed as a per-
is the untold Messy Marv story behind the rap- son, as a whole. I’m always gon’ be Messy Marv,
per, the entertainer, the father, the gangster. but it’s the new Mess. It’s the Mess that got up
There’s a lot of educational Bay Area history in out of that jail. It’s the Mess that moved out of
there too. I shot and directed my reality show those conditions. It’s the Mess that outgrew a
Mr. Ghetto Celebrity. I’ve got my clothing line lot of people in a lot of situations. It’s the Mess
coming soon. Right now I’m working on a new that couldn’t get rich in the Bay Area and had
LP called The Cooking Channel. I’m working to move up out of that muthafucker to get his
every day. pennies. The new Mess.

You also seem to change your phone number You’ve been pretty open in the past about
every other day. It doesn’t seem like that’d be your struggles with drug abuse. Have you
good for business. moved past that?
I got a 1-800 number that I keep steady for Yeah, I’ve been clean for two years now, no
business. That’s on 24 hours so I don’t ever drugs. I didn’t go to rehab. Rehab is for weak
miss the networking and business call. But people. I did mine based on discipline. I
when you’re dealing with a personal line, smoked the fuck out of some weed, though,
you’ve got to keep the line clean and avoid and had a drink or two, but as far as the party
the bullshit. Somebody’s negative energy can drugs, I don’t fuck around...
suck up all the positive energy out of you. I’ve
got muthafuckers calling asking for Sprint bill The rest of this interview is featured in Ozone
money and telling me their bitch done ran off. Magazine #84:
I don’t wanna hear none of that shit, man. My
business associates and my homies keep my
line. But everybody else, once they wanna suck
the positive energy out of a nigga with that
bullshit, I change my number.

When you go out on tour, who else from the


Bay do you plan on performing with? What’s
your take on the current Bay Area move-
ment?
I feel like everybody’s representing. Every-
body’s got a part they play, whether it’s the
old Bay or the new Bay. I just feel like we’re at
a standstill because everybody feels like they
can’t leave the Bay Area. So everybody ends
up with the same production and the same
graphic designer doing their cover. That means
everybody looks and sounds the same. Then
you get everybody putting each other on
the album, so you’ve got the same features.
Everybody’s fuckin’ with the same jeweler. Nig-
gas are buying the same outfits from the same
clothing store. Nobody knows who is who. It’s
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KENN andy Roper
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26-year-old Dominic Hunn Exactly. It’s not the best place but it’s
represents his LA neighbor- definitely not the worst place. It’s mostly
hood—Leimert Park—whenever lower middle to middle-class families,
he has the opportunity. Leimert single parent homes. There’s definitely
represents the burgeoning sub- a lot of art there. A lot of movies were
culture of Cali rap. Just as the filmed there. It just has a good vibe. It
South Central neighborhood supports culture. When I was a kid I saw
boasts culture, middle class liv- everything that was taking place and just
ing and aesthetic beauty, there’s became a part of it.
a rougher side if visitors take a
closer look. The rebirth of los Tell us about your journey from then up
angeles rap features artists until now?
from both sides of the tracks; I was just a regular kid. I went to school,
all obviously influenced by their but I wasn’t the best student. I played
predecessors, but bold enough baseball; that was my first love. I rapped,
to grab the baton and take the you know, but all my homies used to rap
music farther in either direction. at some point, just like most inner city
Enter Dom Kennedy: an intrigu- kids. Kids listen to songs and have fun,
ingly cocky, yet intuitive rhyme- but nobody says “I’m a rapper.” I was just
spitter with that easy flow freestyling or whatever like everybody
indigenous to California hip hop. else. After I got out of high school I did
Dom has created quite a stir as a the junior college thing for a minute, but
new artist, most recently drop- I always knew it wasn’t for me.
ping the critically acclaimed
mixtape, From the Westside with Around that time I had a cousin, Jason
Love. ozone had a conversation Madison, who ended up producing a
with Mr. Leimert Park about the lot of the stuff on my first mixtape, 25th
changing face of LA rap, his place Hour. He was a DJ, so he had all this DJ
in it, and the exact definition of equipment his dad had bought him.
“choosing up.” We used to go to his house and play
instrumentals to whatever records were
What’s your background? I heard your out at the time. We didn’t have laptops
dad raised you. back then so he would get records or CDs
I was raised by my mom and my dad. or buy singles of songs that were on the
They lived in separate homes but I was radio. Whatever song was tight, he had
back and forth with both of them equally. it. Vinyl records used to always have the
My mom is from Los Angeles and my instrumental. I would rap over the instru-
dad’s family is originally from St. Louis. mental and record it from there. If you
messed up, you [ruined] your whole CD,
You rep hard for Leimert Park. What’s you know? That’s how it started. But we
it like? weren’t tryin’ to come out with nothin’.
Leimert Park is where I grew up. When We were just having fun. It was important
my parents got divorced, my mom to what I do now, but we didn’t know it
moved to Leimert and settled there. It’s back then. After years went by, I was like,
been my home off and on since 1992. “I’m not really a rapper.” I wasn’t getting
You know, living there, eating there, paid from it. I was a student.
going to the barbershop, everything. So
it’s home. You can live a lot of places but Around 2005, the way I looked at the
your heart is always at home. That’s why world really started to change. Some-
I always talk about it. When you read a thing inside of me kept urging me to
good book about somebody, it always tell my story through Hip Hop. It was
has a setting - somewhere where the the thing I loved the most, so that was
story takes place. That’s just where my my outlet. That’s when I started getting
story takes place. That’s where I started the idea in my head and thinking, “Well,
out getting my confidence, on the living maybe I can do it.” So I started writing at
room floor in my apartment in Leimert night, and I’d come up with rhymes and
Park. So I’m just paying homage, I guess. they were getting better and better.

I heard it’s not a bad neighborhood, but In 2007, I started working on my first
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25th Hour. I started up with my cousin. He’d not be the right time. I always wanted to grow
make the beats and we’d pay $25 an hour to and use my resources with the producers I’ve
this guy in South Central, close to my house. had access to. I want to take the time to find
He had a little studio set up in his back house myself and craft songs and find younger guys
and I would pay him $25 an hour to record and like myself that have a lot of passion. Just like
$25 an hour to mix. It was a professional little I have passion in my work right now, there’s
studio. That year taught me a lot about how to a lot of young producers that probably have
manipulate your sound; understanding that more passion than [somebody like] Polow Da
your vocals are like a [musical] instrument. Don, who’s a millionaire a couple times over.
When you first start, you think you sound a lot So it’s really not about the name, it’s more
different than you actually do. There are ways about: Are you really in this? Is your heart in
you can say more, just with your voice. You it? What are you trying to say? Can we do this?
can make yourself sound more convincing or Can we reach our goals together?
believable or blend in more with the song.
What’s the concept of “Choose Up”?
I was just having fun recording 25th Hour. My (laughs) “Choose Up” just means “pick.” Decide
friends weren’t thinking it would be anything what you’re trying to do. If you’re out at the
[that reached] outside our immediate circle. I club and you see a girl that keeps looking
didn’t know about blogs. [My music] was on at you, y’all ain’t gon’ be there all night, you
blogs before I even understood what they know? Choose up. Hurry up. Do something.
were. I just made it strictly to have fun, play it
for my friends, and perform at little parties we There’s a new movement coming: you, TiRon,
had. But it turned into something bigger. Skeme, U-N-I, Fashawn - it seems like Cali-
fornia rap has evolved into a newer, younger
My cousin that produced “Watermelon Sun- energy. What motivated this evolution?
dae” was a film student at Loyola Marymount. Man, a lot of people have been trying to figure
So the fact that we had access to good quality that out. I think we’re getting a chance again
videos early on was really important to me and people are open to it. It hasn’t reached a
and my movement. That remains a part of peak yet but I think there are a lot of people
everything I do. We were able to shoot the working really hard that have something valu-
“Watermelon Sundae” video and have it look able to add, you know? We have something
really nice. When everybody saw it, it took off. to say and we’re doing it a different way than
how it was done before. You can look at rap
You’re still an independent artist, but are you music from all the different regions and see
looking for a major label deal? the beginning. Now, it’s a new time. Rap music
I’ve been working, first and foremost, that’s moves through different regions because
the thing that doesn’t stop. I’ve turned [major there’s a new story to tell. People get enam-
label] deals down. There have been offers but ored not only with the music but how they
I’m happy where I’m at. live, what they say, the whole culture. I feel like
the spotlight on L.A. right now is different from
Are you planning on dropping something what it was on before.
with your doppelgänger Don Cannon?
Oh yeah, I always talk to Cannon and people How much of a hand do you have in the cre-
always ask me that. We haven’t really done ative process when building a project?
anything yet outside of being in the studio A hundred thousand percent. Everything.
together. We went through a lot of beats. We When I come up with a project, like From The
talk a lot about music and what direction we Westside, I conceptualize everything. I knew
want to go. For my next project, I know he’ll be how I wanted the artwork to be, how I want it
on there in some capacity. to sound, how many songs are gonna be there.
I think the fact that I have so much control and
You’ve said you’re trying to work with even freedom is what separates the new genera-
better producers next go round. Besides Can- tion of artists from the record labels. They’re
non, have you succeeded in finding that? so impersonal. If you have all this control and
Yeah, definitely. I think after From The West Side freedom, you can say what you wanna say,
With Love and the videos I did, there’s a mutual to exactly who you wanna say it to. You don’t
respect, and that’s really all I’ve wanted. I’ve have to fight with somebody and explain
had opportunities to work with different pro- something to them--people who don’t get
ducers, but a lot of times, I think people work it anyway--that have millions of other things
with producers ahead of schedule, you know? they really care about. Nobody’s gonna tell me
You might not be on Dr. Dre’s level yet. It might how my project is gonna be besides myself. //

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BOBBY
KINS
BRAC lia Beverly
Words by Ju-Ray
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Born and raised in East Oakland, The L.A. scene hasn’t always been real recep-
21-year-old Bobby Brackins em- tive to Bay Area artists. Has that been an
barked on his music career at a issue for you?
young age as part of the group No, not at all, honestly. I guess some people’s
Go Dav. The years of work he put in personalities just don’t mesh well together. I
finally started to pay off when he have the type of personality where I can basi-
went solo. today, with his hit single cally get along with anybody. I just got off the
“143” featuring Ray J climbing the phone with [L.A. rapper] Nipsey Hussle a few
charts and helping to land a him a minutes ago. He’s putting a verse on the “143”
deal with Young Tycoon/Universal song so we can do an L.A. remix. And I just
Republic, he’s . talked to [ ], he sings the hook to YG’s “Toot
It and Boot It.” Me and him just made a really
How many years have you been doing the crazy record for my album. So, some people’s
music thing? personalities might not mesh but I’m not
I’ve been making music for the past six years. really with all that drama, you know. If you’re
When I got out of high school I was with a cool people, you’re cool people and it doesn’t
group called Go Dav. We had a really big re- really matter where you’re from.
cord called “Ride Or Die Chick” that was play-
ing on the radio; it was just a really big street How did the collaboration with Ray J come
record that buzzed all over the country. I was about for your current hit record, “143”?
in a group for a while and then I got out of the We were basically just working on my album.
group and started working on a solo project I had a different record in mind for Ray J but
and linked up with T-Pain’s management. I’ve when I wrote “143” I thought he might fit
really been working on my solo stuff for about better on that one. I really felt like it could be
four and a half years now. a big universal smash record. I played it for my
managers and the label and everybody liked
How did you link up with T-Pain’s manage- it, so I eventually convinced everybody that it
ment? was going to be the single we wanted to run
I put out a record called “Skinny Jeans,” which with. We had Ray come to the studio and he
was a big street record. It was really big on blessed it, he did his thing on it. He went hard
YouTube and Myspace and getting millions of on the record so it sounds super crazy.
hits. A bunch of people were hollering at us,
but we felt like T-Pain’s management would A lot of people who hear the record think
be the best situation because he had “Buy You it’s Ray J’s new single. How do you plan to
A Drink” out at the time and it was a really big establish yourself as an artist and make sure
record. So we thought it would be a good fit they know who you are?
to try to get something happening. [The busi- Well, Ray J’s cool people and he sings on the
ness didn’t really work out] but I just talked record, of course. But whenever I perform
to him the other day. We’re still cool, no hard the record I know when I can just pause and
feelings. He was busy with [T-Pain’s] project let the DJ drop the beat and the girls know
and couldn’t really focus on me. It was a learn- all the lyrics to my verses. So I’m just gonna
ing experience, you know? You’re not going keep doing shows and interviews and let
to win with every situation. It’s all good. I was everybody know that I’m the voice behind the
young just trying to figure out the game. Basi- verses on the record.
cally, I learned that you’ve gotta be a priority
wherever you sign, you know? Do you have a second single picked out?
Yeah, it’s called “She’s Ready.” It’s crazy; it’s
What made you decide to move to Los gonna be another really, really big radio
Angeles? record. We’re gonna do a video for it and keep
I moved to L.A. like two and a half years ago pushing my whole solo career. I wrote the
because my producer was out here going to whole “143” record and this record as well. I’m
school. I was working with different producers really trying to get in touch with the ladies
in the Bay, but I felt like my producer, Nic Nac, because ladies are my primary fans. Whenever
just had the best music for me. I moved out I go to the shows, it’s always the ladies who
here to L.A. and ended up signing to [Young] are screaming my lyrics. So I’m just gonna
Rell’s label. That was about a year ago and keep making great songs that both the ladies
we’ve been working on my solo project ever and the fellas can enjoy. “143” is still climbing
since. I’ve been flying back and forth between up the charts. It’s climbing up the rhythmic
L.A. and the Bay just networking and making radio charts and it’s on the Billboard Hot 100,
music. so we’re gonna just keep letting “143” grow.

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It probably won’t peak for another couple in their twenties and in their teens who are
months but we’re gonna just throw my next really just ready to take their talent to the next
single out there. level. There’s a lot of kids in L.A. who are work-
ing hard to take their talent to the next level
Is your album finished? and I think within the next five years there will
I’m still working on it, but it’s gonna be crazy. hopefully be more unity on the West Coast.
It’s gonna be an album full of hits. There’s just a
couple more songs I need to get features on. It Do you have a label deal yet or are you
features a whole bunch of new and upcoming planning on putting this out independently
talent; the people who are gonna really be on through Rell’s label, Tycoon Status Ent.?
top for the next few years. My point of view is We signed [a major deal] with Universal Re-
that I wanna work with artists who really want public a few months ago. They started playing
to leave a legacy and leave their mark. I’m my record in the bay on 94.9 and basically it’s
not gonna have anybody on the album who been moving ever since. They were the first
doesn’t deserve to be on there. people to play it on the air and since then it’s
been going crazy. There were offers from a
As far as production, are you producing as whole bunch of different labels but Universal
well or mostly working with Nic Nac? Republic offered me the best situation. It’s a
I’m writing everything as far as the hooks and good home, a good situation, and I feel very
verses, and my producer Nic Nac, who used optimistic about the future.
to be in the group with me and produced
“143,” produced most of the album. I was in Is there anything else you want to say?
the studio with Polow da Don a couple weeks Just look out for the next single “She Ready,”
ago and he said he wanted to do a record on and you know, “143” is still climbing up the
the album, so if that happens, that’d be a real charts. Call your local radio station and request
blessing. The album is gonna be a problem. it as much as possible, go support it on iTunes,
There might be a couple outside beats on and when I’m in your city come out to a show
there but primarily it’s gonna be me and Nic and show me some love. When the album
Nac doing the majority of the work. drops, get the album. I just want everybody to
support as much as possible because the fans
Being from Oakland, how do you feel about are keeping us alive right now. //
the verdict that came down yesterday in the
Oscar Grant trial?
I feel like it’s crazy. It’s a real injustice. I don’t This interview is also featured in OZONE West
understand how you can be on video camera Issue #85, and Bobby Brackins appears on the
with your back to somebody in handcuffs cover:
and get killed and [the killer] gets away with
involuntary manslaughter. It makes no sense
to me and it just shows how corrupt the justice
system can be. Oakland has been through a
lot of hardships. I’m only 21 years old and a
lot of my friends out there have [been killed].
You know the system is corrupt but you’ve
just gotta try to be as positive and hopeful as
possible. Hopefully, if more people around the
world hear about the situation, the govern-
ment and police officers will open their eyes
and realize that they can’t get away with doing
crimes like that.

We hear a lot of people talking about this


New West movement. Do you feel like you’re
a part of that?
Definitely. Last week, me, Nipsey Hussle, Ray J,
and Warren G did a show together. Warren G
is a real OG. When Nipsey went on stage and
when me and Ray did the “143” song I felt like
people started to recognize the new talent.
We’re ready to step our foot in the door. The
West Coast has a whole bunch of talented kids

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FORMER GANGBANGERS (L-R)
CHINO, LEFTY, AND TE MONEY HOPE
THEIR UNIFIED FRONT WILL HELP
THEM SPREAD A POSITIVE MESSAGE
THROUGH THEIR MUSIC
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THE
GANG
Words by Ju
lia Beverly

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Tell us about The Gang. like that – we get real fly. We’re not doing it like
The Game and Snoop with red and blue rags,
Te Money: Chino is the Southsider of the group, khakis, and Chucks. We’re on some fly shit.
Lefty is the Blood, and I’m the Crip. My cousin There’s some fly niggas in L.A.
Turtle handles most of the business, along
with myself. Lefty: And they’re not real gangbangers, either.

So you’re a rapper/businessman? Te Money: Yeah, that’s what people don’t


understand. A person that’s really lived that
Te Money: I just became a rapper. I decided to lifestyle, and been through the shootouts and
become a rapper after Dolla died. Dolla was stuff, is tryin’ to get away from it.
my artist and my business partner. Everybody
said I should keep the whole thing going and Since they’re not real gangbangers, are you
keep our dream alive, so that’s what I did. I’m offended by rappers like Snoop representing
definitely carrying on his memory. Me and my the lifestyle?
cousin sat down and put it together. Akon is
still involved, but as far as the legwork, me and Lefty: It’s not even about Snoop, it’s about the
my cousin Turtle are doing that. other rappers that are doin’ it. I got homies
that died [while gangbangin’] and I take that
“i got homies personally. There are things we went through
in the streets. Te Money is a Crip, and I’m from
that died gang- Piru. Chino’s a Mexican. I can talk to them.

bangin’. rappers With my enemies, I can’t talk to them, because


I lost my homies to that. [Rappers] are gettin’
wanna live that money and wanna live that life, but they’re not
where I’m at. I really live in my hood. I really
life, but they’re got homies that are going to jail every day.
not where i’m at. And then you’re on TV gettin’ money off this
[lifestyle] and you ain’t never lived that life. I’m
you’re on tv get- against that. And you take it to the extreme
tin’ money off – my homies are gettin’ 10 years added onto
their charges for gang enhancement, while
this lifestyle you’re on TV representing these things and
and you ain’t nothing happens to you. That ain’t cool.

never lived that Are there any artists you feel are accurately

life. i’m against representing the gang lifestyle?

that.” - lefty Te Money: I really can’t say what other people


are doin’. I just know that all of us here have
been in the trenches before, and this is a way
How would you define The Gang? Is it a out for us. Akon helped me get out of my situ-
record label, a group, a clique, or all of the ation, so I just reached back out to try to help
above? somebody else out of their situation. Hopefully
when they become successful they’ll help
Te Money: It’s a company and a group. It’s a somebody get out of their situation. Like he
movement. It’s not a negative movement was saying, a lot of cats talkin’ about it haven’t
though. A gang is only negative when you do really lived it. None of them have been to jail,
negative things. Supposedly, Crips and Bloods but when they got money, they get security
don’t get along in L.A. Supposedly, blacks and to protect ‘em so they can start living the life.
browns don’t get along in L.A. We tend to stay This is real. This isn’t a put-together group, like
at war with the Mexicans, and the Bloods and a fake image.
the Crips get into it. With us being together in
a group, we’re trying to show everybody that it Since it’s not “normal” for Bloods and Crips
can be a positive thing. and blacks and Mexicans to coexist peace-
fully, how did you three come together?
So you’re hoping to dispel some of the L.A.
stereotypes? Lefty: My mom’s older brothers are Crips. I
grew up in their neighborhood. My dad is from
Te Money: Yeah, and we ain’t in khakis and stuff Piru [Bloods] so that’s how I came from that

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side. I always had homies that were Crips, but
in Compton I never had Crip homies. That’s
where the action is, that’s where my neigh-
borhood. I’m not finna drive from Compton
to L.A. just to beef with another Crip. So I
never had action with them niggas. Plus, I
got more sense and I’m over that.

Te Money: Me and Dolla and Akon were doing


a reality TV show that was going to consist of
a Blood, a Crip, and a Mexican. It was called
The Gang too. This was before I involved
myself in the rap group. So I actually went to
different hoods to find talent, which is where
I met Chino. I went to the neighborhood
and held auditions at this school. Like 20
Southsiders came, that’s the Mexicans. 30 or
40 Bloods came, 30 or 40 Crips came – at dif-
ferent times. (laughs) Out of all the Mexicans,
there were a lot of them that could rap, but
Chino just stood out. I actually had picked
another Blood [for the group] but he backed
out, so I went around asking people who was
the hottest Blood in the streets. They pointed
me towards Lefty.

Chino: I had like seven homies that told me,


“There’s an audition, we got talent, so let’s
put it to use. Let’s go check it out, we don’t
have anything to lose.” I was blessed enough
to make it to this point.

So the message of the group is that Bloods,


Crips, Blacks, Mexicans, everybody should
come together?

Te Money: We can’t speak for everybody


else, but we’re trying to show people that
it can be done. L.A. has a lot of influence on
other places – St. Louis, Little Rock, Arkansas,
Minnesota – there are niggas gangbangin’
in other hoods that ain’t never been to L.A.
People think it’s just Crips and Bloods and
Mexicans, but there are 275 different Crip
gangs. There’s a lot of Crip-on-Crip beef also.
If people from other states come here and
see that we can get along, maybe they can
get along too.

How would you respond to critics saying


that by creating a rap group out of this,
you’re glorifying the gang lifestyle?

Te Money: We’re not glorifying it, and we’re


not doing anything negative. The police
are a gang; they beat the shit outta Rodney
King. [The police] do good things and bad
things. You’ve got gang members that do
good things and gang members that do bad
things. There’s a thing out here [in L.A.] that

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Jim Brown started called “I Can,” where 50 dif-
ferent gang members from different hoods
go around and talk to the kids at juvenile hall.

What are some of the positive things The


Gang is doing?

Te Money: First off, just the fact that we’re to-


gether and getting along is a positive thing.
It starts here. We’ve got a lot of plans. Before
we started the group, I had a non-profit
organization where we went to the juvenile
hall and spoke to the kids and performed for
them. This is something I had been sitting
on for years, but I was so focused on Dolla.
After he died [after being shot at the Beverly
Center], I was in a slump. Turtle and Akon and
everybody pulled me to the side like, “Yo, you
just gotta keep moving forward and we’ll
help you.” They stepped in 100%.

What was the focus of your non-profit


organization?

Te Money: Just telling them to stay positive. I


honestly feel like your hood makes you who
you are. Not everybody is fortunate enough
to be from Beverly Hills. I know professional
basketball players that grew up around
gangbangin’, and that’s just their friends so
they still hang around ‘em. That ain’t wrong.
Your friends are your friends.

Have you gotten any flak from your respec-


tive gangs, like, “Why are you affiliated with
these guys”? Or have they been mostly
supportive?

Chino: I think every individual is just every


individual. You just gotta do you. I like to
observe people. I’m tryin’ to do something
different than what I’ve been doing. I’m not
saying I’m tryin’ to change everything, I am
who I am, but I want to see a different side
[of life]. I’ve been fortunate and blessed. Te
Money and Turtle bailed me out of jail. I think
this is a serious opportunity, as far as what
we’re tryin’ to do with the music. If we weren’t
doing this, I might get caught slippin’ by the
cops and get locked up. I think we can make
this a bigger movement and do something
positive for our people. All my relatives and
homies are in [prison], but they’ve been sup-
portive. You just can’t forget where you came
from. I’m still in the same position. I’m not
out of the hood, but I’m tryin’ to show them
another way we can all get fed.

Lefty: As far as my movement, I’ve got broth-


ers and sisters and a son. I don’t want my son

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to go through nothin’ I did. If I can make a bet- everybody’s stories and charges, and there’s
ter situation for him, that’s what I’ma do – even homies that ain’t never gonna get out. I ap-
if it means reaching out to someone else’s preciate that they’re lookin’ out and tryin’ to
kids by tellin’ them the right way to go. Shit tell us something different. Nobody’s ever
really isn’t going to change unless you step in really taken the time to show me something
and touch someone else. It’s a domino effect. else. I appreciate everything more now – every
Practice makes perfect, so how are you gonna breath of air, every meal I eat – it means some-
get something done if you don’t work at it, or thing, because there’s homies that are never
if you never even tried it to see if it works? This getting out.
shit was never supposed to happen. Where
I’m from, they can’t even speak to us. I never Lefty: They’re givin’ ten years [extra] for gang-
had someone tell me to hate the Mexicans or bangin’. If you’ve got an opportunity [to get
hate the Crips, it was just the gang lifestyle. out] and don’t, that’s like giving yourself away.
A lot of the muthafuckers I got into it with, I
never even know who they were. I just know Te Money: If you catch a case and you’re a
you’re from that hood, and my hood is beefin’ gangbanger, they enhance it and add more
with you. That’s like brainwashing. I never ten more years [to your sentence].
knew Te Money or Chino, but now we’re close. Lefty: I’m not glorifying that. I’m still in the
I coulda seen him before with my homies neighborhood and I’ve still got homies losing
and been like, “Aw, fuck them niggas,” just their lives. I don’t appreciate seeing mutha-
because they’re Crips. Now we’re beefin’ when fuckers on TV glorifying the lifestyle when me
I never even met you. But now we live in the and muthafuckers I love are still out here living
same fuckin’ house. It starts with us. If we can this life. You’re just on TV doin’ it, sayin’ you’re
get along, other people can too. People are from some Piru or Crip gang. If you say you’re a
teachin’ their kids to [gangbang] because they Piru or a Crip, come to the hood. I got a green
see it on TV and think it’s cool. But when you pass for any hood you wanna go in out here.
see your homies lose their life behind some Come really see this shit, cause it’s fucked up. If
bullshit, that’ll change you. I kept tellin’ my you’re on TV glorifying this shit, I don’t appreci-
brothers to sit back and everything is gonna ate it and I don’t respect it, period.
be alright – now they’re in jail lookin’ at ten
years. I want to put myself in a better situation. Let’s talk about the music. Are you releasing
an album or a mixtape?
Chino: That’s what it is. Everybody’s get-
tin’ washed up. When you’re in jail you hear Te Money: We’re workin’ on both. We’re halfway
finished with the album, but like every other
“A LOT OF THE artist, we just keep recording. We’ve got a
lot of content, though. We’re not just talking
MUTHAFUCKERS I about red and blue rags or Crips and Bloods.
GOT INTO IT WITH, I We’re pretty much on some Tupac shit with the
content. We talk about the struggle and all the
NEVER EVEN KNEW things we’ve been through. It’s N.W.A all over
WHO THEY WERE. I again, when they came out with reality rap.
Some songs represent where we’re from, but
JUST KNOW YOU’RE we’re not promoting gangbangin’ at all.

FROM THAT HOOD, Do you have some lighter records for the
AND MY HOOD radio or the clubs?

IS BEEFIN’ WITH Te Money: Yeah, it’s definitely mainstream, just


YOU. THAT’S LIKE street.

BRAINWASHING... IT Lefty: This is who we are. We’re all from differ-


STARTS WITH US. IF ent neighborhoods so we all have a different
story, and we put it all together. It’s main-
WE CAN GET ALONG, stream in a way, but we wanna send a mes-
OTHER [GANG MEM- sage at the same time. We don’t want people
to get the wrong message just because we’re
BERS] CAN TOO.” - from gangs. We’re not promoting that at all.

LEFTY Chino: It’s more like a soundtrack to our indi-


vidual lives. It’s reality and this is how we live.

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You mentioned your situation with Akon. Are So you’re broadening your horizons. Do you
you signed to Konvict Music? see the gang situation in L.A. getting better
or worse?
Te Money: We’re doing the same thing we did
with Dolla; it’s a joint venture with Konvict Te Money: For me, since I grew up, I’d say it’s
Music. We’re also still working on the reality definitely calmed down. Especially since the
TV show. It’s bigger than just music. The music Rodney King [riots], L.A. has calmed down and
really comes last; it comes easily to us. It’s more is getting along more. It’s more Crip on Crip
about us getting along and reaching out to beef than anything, and the blacks and browns
help somebody else. don’t get along period. It’s kinda out of our
control. I didn’t start the gang, I just grew up
What’s the focus of the reality show? here and got involved in it. Somebody’s gotta
go talk to the muthafucker that started all this
Te Money: Just tryin’ to get out of the hood. bullshit.
A few weeks ago I told Lefty to come to the
Lefty mentioned that he didn’t want his son
“my grandpa’s to join a gang. If you had it your way, twenty
years from now, would you have gangs elimi-
been to the joint nated period?

and probably his Te Money: Nah, not really, because sometimes


grandpa too. ev- gangs are family. Some people get involved
with gangs because they don’t have a family;
ery kid looks for sometimes that’s all you have.
that fatherly Lefty: They got love for you and you feel com-
attention or fortable around all your homies.
role models. Chino: Not every gang is [violent] either. A
you’re just a kid lot of gangs started out as clubs and just got
and don’t know labeled as “gangs.” There are a lot of clubs just
fighting for rights and fighting for our people,
what direction and that’s what we’re here today to do.

to go, so you How do you think you can keep the family
want someone to and community aspect of the gangs but take
the violence out of it?
look up to. they
teach you that Te Money: Everybody’s an individual. You can’t
stop somebody from what they wanna do,
shit and you pick you can only tell ‘em. I got homies that went
it up. it passes to school and were on the honor roll and went
on to play [professional] basketball and still
down to every come back to this neighborhood. Then I’ve
generation.” - got homies that shoulda played [professional]
basketball but instead they were like, “I need
chino this gun, this dope, this money right now.”

If you had grown up in the suburbs, where do


Beverly Center. He lives like twenty minutes you think you would have ended up?
away from there and had never been there
before, even though he’s lived [in Los Angeles] Te Money: Lefty would probably still be gang-
his whole life. L.A. is separated by gangs, and bangin’. Some people are just fascinated by it.
when you grow up here, you feel like, “This is It depends on the individual. Sometimes you
my hood, so what do I need to go over there can be born into it if your mom and dad are
for? Matter of fact, we beefin’ with them over into it. But I know some people that grew up in
there so I’ma stay right here and protect my the suburbs and just started comin’ over to our
hood.” neighborhood.

Lefty: Yeah, I just stay in my comfort zone. Lefty: Some people are fascinated by the

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lifestyle and think it’s cool. A lot of people start
off in it when they’re young, and after they’ve
been through so much, they’re like, “Fuck this
shit, I wanna get out of here.” I’m 21 and I’ve
been doing this since I was 12. After so long,
you really just wanna get out of this shit. You
see there’s no way out. You gotta shake that
shit off and realize [life] is bigger than gang-
bangin’ in the neighborhood. You gotta look at
the bigger picture.

Chino: A lot of times, it’s family-inherited. My


grandpa’s been to the joint and probably his
grandpa too. Every kid looks for that fatherly
attention or role models. You’re just a kid and
don’t know what direction to go, so you want
someone to look up to. We’re livin’ in the hood
so a lot of times your parents are busy workin’,
tryin’ to get us out of the hood. You end up
playin’ ball with the dudes on the block and
they stay hustling. They teach you that shit
and you pick it up. It passes down to every
generation.

Is there anything else you want to add?

Lefty: My message is that you can do the right


thing in any situation if you try. I was at my
lowest point in my life, and I coulda ended up
in prison. I tried to put my effort into some-
thing positive and I got into a better situation
overnight. If you try, shit could be different.
Don’t never give up and always keep your
head up.

Chino: I want to stress the point that you’ve


gotta be thankful for what you’ve got. When
you ain’t got it, it makes a big difference. A lot
of times we take stuff for granted and end up
in a predicament and forget what we’re really
tryin’ to do. I just want to help my people and
take care of my family and do something posi-
tive so I can show the next man a way out. I’m
just gonna try to remain humble and do this to
the fullest.

Te Money: We’re just tryin’ to promote positiv-


ity, not just in L.A., but state to state. To all the
gangbangers across the world: we’re getting
along, and you guys should do the same. Put
all your positive energy into yourself and your
family.

Where can people find out more information


about your music and your movement?

Te Money: Our website is www.TheGangEnt.


com. There’s links up there to Twitter and
Myspace, and we’ve got our music, photos,
and interviews up there. //

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AFTER AN APPEALS COURT OVERTURNED go into it with a one-track mind. They only
HIS LIFE SENTENCE, INFAMOUS DRUG know one aspect of the game. Me, myself, I
KINGPIN 'FREEWAY' RICKY ROSS HOPES TO went into the game like that. I went in blind-
REDEEM HIMSELF BY TEACHING THE YOUTH sided. I only saw the fame and the fortune; I
THE HARD LESSONS HE'S LEARNED AND didn’t see the whole thing. Nobody explained
SHOWING THEM A BETTER PATH. it to me.

For anyone who isn’t familiar with “Freeway” Did you feel like dealing drugs was your only
Ricky Ross, what’s your claim to fame? career option?
I’m from L.A. I’m known as a drug dealer. I be- When I was young I was dumb. I was illiterate.
came one of the biggest drug dealers in South I couldn’t read. I had never read a book and
Central. I was the guy that most of the guys never written anything, so the only thing I
who got big got their first drugs from. I was knew was what I saw in my general area. When
the one they modeled themselves after; guys I go and talk to the kids - especially in juvenile
like Harry O, Bo Bennett, Young Tommy, Pat, hall - I explain that when I was coming up, my
the list goes on and on. A lot of [well-known options were robbery, pimpin’, selling dope,
drug dealers] basically modeled their drug stealing cars, and burglary. Those were the
dealing pattern after me or copied my format. things I thought I had to pick from. I never
Some of them got bigger than I was. (laughs) thought about opening a magazine. I never
thought about owning a record company. My
When you see what the drug game has options were so limited, and that was because
evolved into today, do you approve or disap- of my [limited] knowledge.
prove?
I mean, I can’t knock anyone for what they Previously, we published a letter to our read-
do, because I did so much wrong myself. It’d ers that you wrote while you were incarcer-
be like Satan throwing rocks at somebody for ated. It sounded like you were renouncing
doing something wrong; he can’t do that. So I what you’d done before and were trying to
can’t knock the game. It has evolved into what correct the wrongs.
it was supposed to come to. But I do feel that Absolutely. What I did was wrong, and not only
my job now is to try to figure out other things was it wrong, but I feel like it was a total waste
for these young guys to do now. I’m trying to of my talents. I’m very talented. My personal
show them that there’s a different route and a opinion is that there’s no man living on this
different path, and I believe I can do that. planet that is as smart as I am.

A lot of people say the street game isn’t Did that realization come to you over the
what it used to be. They say there’s no honor years, or was it one moment that made you
amongst thieves anymore. regret the path you’d taken?
There really never was. It was just that fake It started to come in time, after I started to
make-believe stuff. This was the way it was read books. It first started in the courtroom,
supposed to go. Really, when you look back when I found myself debating the law with
at the game, the guys who were at the top these Harvard and Yale graduates.
always played like that.
You defended yourself? Why?
So that’s a myth? Because I hear that often. My lawyer told me, “Anytime somebody else
Yeah, that’s a myth. I totally agree that that’s a wants you home more than you want yourself
myth. Everybody that got busted, somebody home, you’re in trouble.” I took that to heart. I
told on them. From the beginning, somebody took that to mean, “You should learn the law
had to be a snitch. The Feds have been using for yourself.”
snitches since the beginning of time. It’s
always been there and it’ll always be there. If So you made the decision to defend yourself,
you’re in the game and you don’t think your and it wasn’t just from a financial stand-
best friend is gonna tell on you, you’re crazy. point?
When I look back, the same guys that helped From a legal standpoint. So now you take a
me get into this game are the same guys that guy who believed he was dumb and illiterate
told on me. The same guys that’ll tell you, and could never read or write, and you put
“Don’t snitch!” will turn around and snitch on him in a courtroom and the judge and the
you. It’s a dirty business. The drug business lawyers are taking what he says seriously. They
is dirty. And a lot of [new drug dealers] don’t disagreed with what I was saying, but when
know that. When they go into the drug busi- we went to the appeals court, I proved them
ness, they don’t know the ins and outs. They all wrong. That’s a confidence booster.

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"FREEWAY"
RICKY
ROSS
Words by Julia
Beverly
Photo by D-Ray

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How did you learn how to read? working on reforming the laws. I’ve teamed
One A-B-C at a time. My cellmate convinced up with the NAACP and we’re gonna start a
me that I could read. When I got my indict- program to reform the mandatory minimum
ment, I wanted to know what was on my in- sentences, not only in the Feds but in the state
dictment. I never told my lawyer that I couldn’t [judicial] systems as well.
read until after I learned to read. He gave me
three pieces of paper and said, “Here’s your You don’t think that lowering the mandatory
indictment. Read it and it explains everything minimum sentences would encourage more
you need to know about your case.” That was people to get into the drug business?
the first piece of paper I ever read – my indict- Well, [the mandatory minimums] haven’t
ment. stopped drug dealing, we know that. We
know drugs are more plentiful on our streets.
Why were you illiterate? Would you say the We have more people in prison. So it hasn’t
school system failed you? worked for the past 40 years.
That was part of it. The school system was part
of it and my mom was part of it. You know How would lowering the sentences help?
what they say, it takes a community to raise a We’re not saying right off the bat that it will
child. And I failed myself. It was my respon- help, but we’re saying it won’t hurt. Because
sibility to get what I needed and make sure it isn’t working. Throwing people in prison
that I could read and function. I didn’t find it and throwing away the key absolutely doesn’t
important in the trades that I was looking at: work. I believe we have to come up with
robbery, burglary, stealing cars, pimpin’ – why programs that really work. We have to start
do you need to know how to read? addressing the issues that are at the root, and
that’s lack of knowledge and lack of opportuni-
Getting a “regular” job was never an option? ties. These laws have nothing to do with that. I
I didn’t see myself doing that. I didn’t know believe we should go with an ounce of preven-
anybody that had a regular job. I grew up on tion instead of a pound of cure. That’s what our
Figueroa, which was the hoe stroll. My friends government is doing now – throwing pounds
didn’t “work.” and pounds of cures on a problem that for 45
or 50 years has been a waste of money. The
And you didn’t think that those career paths drug problem is worse than it’s ever been.
– robbery, burglary, stealing cars, or pimpin’ Murder rates are up. Snitchin’ is up.
– would have a negative outcome?
Nah, that was a part of my neighborhood. Do you think the government has been go-
A kid can become his environment. If you’re ing to war against the wrong people? Should
around crime, at first you might shy away from they be targeting the user and focusing more
it, but if you stay around it long enough, pretty on prevention instead of locking up the
soon you’re accustomed to it. That’s why drugs dealers?
are so accepted in our neighborhoods. The [The government] should focus on the user
reason it’s so hard for a drug dealer to quit is and try to prevent people from using. Lock-
because his neighborhood doesn’t despise ing [dealers] up is just not the key. This is
him. It’s attractive. People look up to you when not a criminal offense. It’s a victimless crime,
you’re a drug dealer. because nobody is gonna come in and testify
and say, “He stuck a gun in my face and robbed
You’re rewarded for it. me.” There’s never gonna be a victim in these
Right. You get to go to VIP. You get all the girls. [drug] cases, so they’re gonna have somebody
Everything a person wants can come from sell- who’s in trouble already and decided to snitch
ing drugs, so why wouldn’t people sell drugs? come in and testify and say he saw you do
What’s the deterrent? something to somebody that’s never gonna
come to court. Then he’s gonna get off so he
I would think a potential life sentence would can go out and sell drugs again, so it’s just a
be a deterrent. perpetuation of the problem. Incarceration
Well, they don’t know about the jail time. Most is definitely not the answer. We’re spending
of them don’t know about the Feds until it’s billions and billions of dollars every year on
too late. These kids don’t know anything about incarcerating [convicted drug dealers]. Just
the Feds and the mandatory minimums. to take me to court cost [the taxpayers] $3
million dollars. Just to take me to court! Then
Do you think the mandatory minimums are they kept me in prison at $40,000 a year for 20
an effective deterrent? years. And when you take a drug dealer off the
Absolutely not. Totally a waste of time. I’m streets, how many other drug dealers come in

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and take his place? We should be putting all head with a shotgun.
that money into education and prevention.
Two shots to the head and they ruled it a
Sounds like the prison system is quite suicide?
profitable for the private companies that run I was in jail [when he died] so the only thing
them. I know is that I didn’t do it. I can guarantee
Absolutely. That’s why they only allow the you that, because I was in Texarkana. They just
prosecutors, judges, and police officers to did an article about me and Gary Webb and
invest in them. Everyday citizens can’t invest everything in the Pasadena Weekly.
in the prison industry. All of the prisons in the
United States are private. If you’re a govern- How would you explain the alleged CIA/crack
ment worker, you can invest. It’s definitely a cocaine connection to the younger genera-
profitable business. tion? We’ve always heard that the govern-
ment put crack and guns in the hood. How
In a perfect world, if you were in charge of accurate are those statements?
the government’s War on Drugs, what would We found out for an absolute fact that my guy,
you do? who I got my drugs from, was a Contra. The
I’d start educational programs in the schools. Contras were backed by the CIA. The CIA knew
There are basic principles I’ve learned. Any- that they were selling drugs and turned a blind
body in any position can make money if they eye. Not only that, but the CIA went to the
know these principles. And that’s what I’m Attorney General and asked her to change the
doing now – I go all over the country and talk law. There was a law that said that they must
to kids and teach them these principles. For report drug dealing if they knew about it, and
example, 10% of everything you earn is yours they had that law changed so that they didn’t
to keep. You must save 10% of your money, have to report it. Those are facts that the CIA
and that’s the money you’re going to get rich has admitted.
off of. Invest it wisely.
What other projects are you working on?
You’re working on an autobiographical I’m doing my record label now. I’m looking for
movie, right? artists right now and I’ve got a group I’m put-
Yeah, I just signed my movie deal. I’m produc- ting together. I’m finna lock down Hollywood.
ing it, writing it, directing it, everything. We’re I felt like the movie was the most important
thinking it may take two or three different part. I wrote a book...
movies to tell the whole story. There’s a lot
that went on in my life. There’s the reporter, The rest of this interview is featured in Ozone
Gary Webb, who broke my story in 1995 and Magazine Issue #85:
then [supposedly] killed himself. There’s the
Nicaraguan connection, which involved Oliver
North and President Bush and Ronald Reagan.
They were all tied into my case. I got my
drugs from the Nicaraguans. Then there was
the Freeway Task Force, a bunch of cops put
together to bring me down. After they started
seeing all the money I was making in the drug
game, they couldn’t resist. They went from
being cops to being robbers and dope dealers
themselves.

Who’s going to play the role of “Freeway”


Ricky Ross?
I’ve been talking to Columbus Short pretty
seriously. He’s come on harder than anybody
else. I spoke to a lot of people about it, though.
Nelly, Tyrese, Scarface, Don Cheadle, Larenz
Tate, Denzel Washington. Snoop Dogg asked
for the role. Mark Wahlberg, Brad Pitt, and
Leonardo DiCapro are interested in playing
Gary Webb, the reporter. Gary has a pretty
substantial story too. He was a prize-winning
writer who came up dead. Two shots to the

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