1Witness No. 4 (for FLDS)In chief by Mr. Wickett1 January 26, 20112 Vancouver, B.C.34 (DAY 27)5 (PROCEEDINGS COMMENCED AT 10:00 A.M.)67 THE CLERK: Order in court. In the Supreme Court of8 British Columbia at Vancouver, this 26th day of9 January, 2011, calling the matter concerning the10 constitutionality of section 293 of the Criminal11 Code, My Lord.12 THE COURT: Thank you. Mr. Wickett.13 MR. WICKETT: Yes, My Lord, the next witness is Witness14 No. 4. If she could perhaps be sworn, please.1516 WITNESS NO. 4, a witness,17 called by the FLDS, sworn.1819 EXAMINATION IN CHIEF BY MR. WICKETT:20 Q I'll ask you, witness 4, to keep your voice up,21 please, so we can all hear you.22 A Okay.23 Q You are currently age 24?24 A Yes.25 Q You were born in the town of Hildale in Utah to an26 FLDS family but you grew up in a community other27 than Hildale; correct?28 A Yes.29 Q And you moved to the Bountiful community near30 Creston when you married a person in that31 community; is that correct?32 A Yes.33 Q How old were you when you were married?34 A 17.35 Q Do you have any children?36 A Yes, I have one child.37 Q And how old is your child?38 A 5.39 Q Could you explain to His Lordship, please, your40 understanding of the covenant in marriage in the41 FLDS?42 A I believe that a man and wife are sealed together43 for time and all eternity.44 Q And what, if any, role does plural marriage play45 in that covenant?46 A Plural marriage -- celestial and plural marriage47 is something that I have to enter and abide to
2Witness No. 4 (for FLDS)In chief by Mr. Wickett1 gain my highest degree in the celestial kingdom.2 Q In your case, and I'm speaking of your own3 marriage, can you explain to His Lordship, please,4 how that came about, what the process was.5 A Yes. I was 17 years old and I wanted to be6 married. I was praying about it to heavenly7 father. One night I had a dream. In this dream I8 stood up like I was married to someone and I saw9 their face. I went to my father later and I asked10 him if I could be married. He asked me if I felt11 like I was ready, and I did. I felt like I was12 prepared. He said, well, keep praying about it13 and we'll see what happens. So I did and awhile14 later he took me to the prophet and the prophet15 asked me if I had anyone in mind. I told him I16 didn't. Then later -- a week later I went back17 and he said you're to be placed and he told me the18 person I was to be placed by. It happened to be19 the same person that I had seen in this dream but20 I hadn't told him about the dream that I had. So21 I felt like my marriage was a revelation from God22 because it happened to be the same person I had23 seen in the dream. And I accept that.24 Q Thereafter you were married?25 A Yes.26 Q And you moved to Canada?27 A Yes.28 Q Your current immigration status in Canada, you're29 on a student visa, I understand it?30 A Yes.31 Q And if that visa expires and your immigration --32 you don't obtain permanent residency or other33 lawful immigration status what will you be doing?34 A I would be going back down to the States.35 Q When you moved to Canada did you attend school?36 A Yes, I did. I graduated from Bountiful Elementary37 with grade 12.38 Q And have you continued your schooling after39 Grade 12?40 A Yes, this is my third year in college in41 Cranbrook. I am attending their business42 administration program. Accounting major.43 Q Okay. And that's a diploma program?44 A Yes.45 Q Why are you doing that?46 A Because I want to go on and be an accountant and47 have my own business eventually.
3Witness No. 4 (for FLDS)In chief by Mr. Wickett1 Q How did you come upon this plan? What made you2 think of that?3 A I just always wanted to be a bookkeeper, like,4 work in an accounting office or have my own.5 Q And what is your plan for the future in terms of6 work?7 A I am hoping to be done with my education by April8 and then get a job in an office, like if they will9 give me my work visa, get a job in an accounting10 firm until I can break off on my own and start my11 own business.12 Q And is it your plan to work in your own business13 in the Bountiful community or outside?14 A Inside, like there's quite a few businesses I15 could do their bookkeeping for them, their16 year-end taxes.17 Q Now, was this a plan that you formulated yourself18 or did somebody tell you that you should do it?19 A No, myself. I have always wanted to be a20 bookkeeper, and after graduating from Bountiful21 then I wanted to go on to college and obtain my22 diploma degree in the accounting field.23 Q I want to return to the subject of marriage for a24 moment. You live in a plural marriage?25 A I do.26 Q You say in your affidavit at paragraph 5, I27 believe, and I should pause there to say, My Lord,28 I don't know that I dealt with the affidavit so29 perhaps I should do that. Just pause for a30 moment, Witness 4. You've sworn an affidavit in31 this proceeding?32 A Yes, I have.33 Q Do you have that in front of you?34 A Yes.35 MR. WICKETT: And it, My Lord, is Exhibit.36 THE COURT: 81.37 MR. WICKETT: 81, thank you.38 Q And signature on the third page of the affidavit39 is your signature?40 A Yes.41 Q All right. Returning to the affidavit for a42 moment. You say in paragraph 5 of your affidavit43 that you believe that your marriage was made in44 heaven. What do you mean by that and why did you45 say that?46 A I believe that before we come to earth we made47 covenants as man and wife to be man and wife here
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