Um. So, that always happens after the fact - this stuff is sort of written, um, you know, in myhead, for the most part. Um, I play it, I gave it to Slau, he sort of, played the glockenspiel andpiano sections, that, note-by-note. I just kind of gave it to him and he would play it a bar at atime. Um. A bar, four bars at a time, whatever.So, no, it wasn't, it wasn't written out, per say, but it, obviously, pre-composed. Through-composed.Milton: When you go out to tour the album, the live band, you know, you're going to have tothink about that.George: Yeah, again - that's sort of the Trio has learned it, I obviously play the guitar thing,and can kind of do it. So yeah, if we can get to a full, band version - yes, I'll have to... that'spart of the fun of - I tell ya? I hate it, but it is one of the most satisfying feelings to see yourwork on a piece of paper.Milton: You compose, I guess, mainly with guitar?George: Primarily, yeah, yeah. Ninety percent.Milton: ...do you test out your compositions then, um, using computer software? Like, do youlayer them up, or have you got them devised in your head before you go into the studio?George: Yeah, um, I'll make sort of demos? If there's question as to whether parts worktogether, I'm very... I'm very old-fashioned in that I'll still even use a little portable cassetterecorder? And I'll record one pass into it and I'll play live along with it, just to see if whetherthe parts are working the way I think they working in my head? Um...Milton: ... But you'll leave the final construction to the studio as opposed to bringing it...George: ...well, for the most part, for the most part. There are some songs that might need sortof a bigger demo. But for the most part that what I'm playing to, when I'm laying downdrums, in that sort of first pass, will be a click, um, a guitar and a vocal. For the most part.Sometimes I'll add a bass, or maybe a very simple drum part.But for the most part, it's just click, guitar and um, vocal - which might even have cues! Like'
two bars until the change
!' or '
'three, two, one...
' You know, that kind of stuff,which to me, it just - it just feels more
, that I'm actually constructing the parts asopposed to playing along with the demo.Milton: I've got you.George: Argh... I don't know if that's the best way to do it? But it, it seems to work so far.Milton: Now, um, I love these musical details, but I never... I mean, because I knew that I'dbe talking to you, I went through the lyrics in detail, and there's some really great lyricaldevices that you use, that I'm sure in all of your previous albums... but um... I'll just take anexample from that tune... :
‘A new song needs a new dance / I'll scream until I'm hoarse / Races lost but jockeys whip / Through their grip / Starts to slip / Never questioning the source.’