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Dialogues, Dialectic, And The "Truth"

Dialogues, Dialectic, And The "Truth"

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also used to compress and review. kind of a design mess, but i was in a hurry. the second image was also used as a scrim (transparency projected on wall) for our performance of passages from Phaedrus (the Dean watched). students wore costumes they'd brought (swatches of seriously funky fabrics with many design layers. a student had brought them in and shared, and they chose their fabrics design based upon their character. awesome good times) :)
also used to compress and review. kind of a design mess, but i was in a hurry. the second image was also used as a scrim (transparency projected on wall) for our performance of passages from Phaedrus (the Dean watched). students wore costumes they'd brought (swatches of seriously funky fabrics with many design layers. a student had brought them in and shared, and they chose their fabrics design based upon their character. awesome good times) :)

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Published by: Bonnie Lenore Kyburz on May 14, 2011
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dialogues, dialectic, & thenature of "truth" & "knowledge"
prepared by dr. bonnie lenore kyburz
source:
Rhetoric: Concepts, Definitions,Boundaries.
William A. Covino
(U ILL, Chicago)
David A. Jolliffe
(DePaul U)
 
Plato
(c. 429 -347 BCE)& "truth" in
haedrus
‡screens P's
philosophical rhetoric
(pref to"rhetoric" as taught by the Sophists)‡method: dialogue.represents give-and-takeof convo btwn 2 characters‡convo offers multiple viewpoints w/outprivileging any one, authorial perspective‡this interplay creates a productive kind oambiguity (like good literature)‡the convo is referred to as "dialectic," "amethod of inquiry" guided by ?'s andanswers, definitions and distinctions that ="philosophical truth"‡supposedly, (ideally)participants in dialecticdo not begin w/predetermined positions, butin
haedrus
, Socrates has a perspective inmind, and he leads Phaedrus to it.‡Socrates' moves to persuade Phaedrus aresimilar to the distasteful moves made byrhetors Socrates does not admire(ornamental,flowery ... mere flattery)‡alternatively,the Socratic method --revealsby doing, via inquiry-driven dialectic
‡P was a "follower" or student oSocrates (469-399 BCE).‡P saw Socratic
d
ialectic
as morevaluable than the "mere cookery"or the "false art" of rhetoric thatwas being taught --it offers a"pleasant taste rather than goodhealth" and in this way "offers acrowd what they enjoy hearingrather than what is good for them."‡P saw this taught rhetoric as a"knack" rather than a talent
(Covino& Jolliffe 74).
‡The Sophists were
the teachers
...
 
the sophists.
sophos
= knowledge, wisdom
"The first sophists were teachers whotraveled in classical Greece teaching anumber of different subjects" (
in Plato's
Gorgias
, prior to
haedrus,
we see P's Socratessuggest that "the practice of rhetoric does notrequire any paritcular body of knowledge anddoes not aim at the good, [thus] it is a false art or "knack" rather than a true art") [...]
They areespecially famous --or infamous --for relativistic views
["radically contingent" (Kent)]
of truth and demonstrations of oratoricaldexterity; such demonstrations wereespecially popular as entertainments and asindications of the skills required of citizens innewly emerging democracies"
(Covino & Jolliffe84).

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