SK: Well again, if you're not going to allow me to say that I thinkthere are healthy grief responses, and I think there are aberrantgrief responses that need intervention...JA: Right, I mean--SK: And I must put both piles together, then I would have to say,anything could happen when someone has a great grief.JA: So no matter what hypothetical I would give you, you would saythat could be consistent with grief.SK: I would probably say, if it were aberrant, that is inconsistentwith inappropriate grief response.JA: Okay. But what I'm getting at is, no matter what hypotheticalcounsel gave you, you would say it was consistent with grief, becauseeverything is consistent with grief in your opinion. Correct?SK: Everything is, falls into a category somewhere along the linefrom pathological grief responses to healthy grief responses.JA: Now, can you, from a set of activities, draw the conclusion to areasonable degree of expert certainty that a certain person is, atthat time, grieving? Know what I'm saying? Not assuming that there'sa loss, and interpreting it as grief, but can you do the opposite?Can you look at a set of actions, not knowing what came before them,and say yeah, this is grief, or no, this is not?SK: Well, I have a tool that's used in medical schools, it's called aKerioth loss inventory. And if someone came to the, to my clinic, andif someone ran that loss inventory on them, and I looked at thesymptoms that came up, and we had a bizarre set of symptoms – I'mlosing my hair, my fingernails are falling out, I can't sleep atnight, I've got the hiccups, every Wednesday I don't seem to get outof bed – plotted on the diagram of that, I may very well say, tell meabout Wednesday, and who have you lost, and what kind of losses haveyou had in your past?JA: And did you attempt to apply that instrument to the facts of thiscase?SK: Well, I don't know the facts of this case.JA: And that's the next question I wanna ask. When were you firstcontacted about this case?SK: I got an email in, I will say the end of May, beginning of June.