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Beans, Beans, The Magical Fruit ...– Episode 053

Beans, Beans, The Magical Fruit ...– Episode 053

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Have you considered what NOT having control of your food supply is costing you?In Germany right now, that loss of control has contributed to the deaths of thirty-nine people. The sad thing is that Europe can’t figure out what the problem is. Firstit was cucumbers, tomatoes, then lettuce, then sprouts, then it wasn’t sprouts, andtoday it is sprouts again.The lack of ability to track down this source showcases the problem of allowingyour food supply to become such a vast outward-spreading organism in which youhave no control. When you take away personal, one-on-one accountability, youlose much more than the ability to hold the grower responsible for the food youconsume. You automatically require government intervention in the food growingprocess and as we have seen, government intervention is seldom logical, quiteeasily corrupted, and an albatross around the neck of average citizens.Podcast:
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Off The Grid Radio
 Ep 053Released: June 17, 2011
Brian:
Ladies and gentlemen, as the announcer says, welcome to Off the GridNews – the radio version of offthegridnews.com. I’m Brian Brawdy, as always herewith Mr. Bill Heid. Bill, how are yousir?
Bill:
I am well. Top of the morning to you, Brian. It’s a beautiful day, as you know,here in Illinois. We’ve got a lot to talkabout –especially –you know, Brian, we talk
 
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about this “off the grid” – taking some of your life back. With respect to food sooften, we have that conversation. How can we not outsource so many things in our life? How can we take some of this back? We see all over in the news – and youand I were talking before the show started – all over in the news there’s stories of people that are no longer alive because they outsourced their food supply. I’mthinking of the E. coli thing in Germany. I know you’ve got some comments aboutthat. But I think, with our guest and what we’re going to talk about today, it really –it can be a life and death thing.
Brian:
It most certainly is a life and death thing, unfortunately Bill, for 23 folks inEurope, as you mentioned. There’s a great article in the Christian Science Monitor this morning. This will come as no surprise to you that the politicians now are allpointing fingers and blaming each other because, according to the article, Europehas a zero inability – zero inability – to figure out what is the ultimate cause of thecurrent E. coli outbreak. It’s got people running scared.
Bill:
Do you remember on day one it was cukes or whatever it was – a while back,it was cucumbers. Then it was some other vegetable. Then it became sprouts –which ought to scare you again because these are government agencies trying totell you – and granted, they’re probably doing the best they can, but just inherent inthe system is the lack of the ability to track down something like a little bug that’sreally very devastating in its effects on the human body. Will government help you?I don’t know. Can they? I’m not sure they always can. There’s a lot of goodgovernment employees. A lot of them will try to, but in the greater scheme, how canwe take some of this back? How can we get control over our own food supply – it’sbeen the theme of a lot of our shows, a lot of our conversations that we haveprivately.
Brian:
Bill, I’ll answer your question with what you’ve taught me and what we’veworked on for all these years now and it’s a simple term – it’s self-reliance.
Bill:
It is self-reliance, Brian. You remember a couple of days ago when we wentup to Stockton to the home where Kim’s grandparents live and the home that wasbuilt in the early 1800s – along the summer kitchen, when you walked in, when Ifirst met Kim and we would go up to see her grandparents, years and years ago –they had something stocked along that summer kitchen. Almost something fairlyromantic, and it’s the subject of what we’re talking about today. Ever since I knewthem, that’s how they lived, and that’s how these folks lived since before the CivilWar – they stocked this particular item that we’re going to talk about today. It wasalways beautiful. It’s a little, even romantic, I guess you could say, the way it wouldalways be there. I guess today people might be able to dress their house upcountry knick-knack-wise by having some of these little guys in jars becausethey’re beautiful. But that was very much a part of their life, the way they lived, fromgeneration to generation, as these Vermont farmers came out and they broughtwith them beans. They started planting them up there in that garden where you andI were planting potatoes the other day. Beans have been planted there since the1830s, believe it or not.
Brian:
Bill, before we get to today’s guest, I think our listeners would also dighearing your story – I think it may have been Kim’s dad or granddad that used tosay something to you? It would sound to our listeners today to mean one thing, but
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you knew it meant something totally different. When it was time to prepare a meal,what did he say to you?
Bill:
Oh, he would always say – we’d be over there working – as a matter of fact,one summer we were putting up a barn – we built barns ourselves. I would go upinto the timber and I would cut a locust pole and I would shave off the bark and Iwould dig a hole and we’d set the post. I’d tamp in the dirt. Then we’d come in for lunch and do you know what he would say? He’d put some coffee on and he’d say“well let’s go to the store.” When I first got there I thought “why would we want todrive all the way back up to town, 10 miles, to get something to eat?” As it turnedout to be, he meant “let’s walk over to the garden and dig something up and cook itup quick.” That’s how we ate all the time when I used to work on the farm with him.
Brian:
I tell you, Bill, I think a lot of people today – you hear the stories in the newsabout they’ll interview some younger kids and they go “where do cows come from?”And they’ll say “from the store.” “Where does milk come from?” “From thesupermarket.” I think a lot of people listening to that, and most certainly today’sguest, probably smiled when she heard you tell that story about “let’s head on over to the store” but it really had nothing to do with leaving your property, hopping inthe car and going. It had everything to do to go where you were growing somefood. Our guest today, Bill, as you know, is the author of a really cool book“Homegrown Whole Grains.” She’s also the author of a dozen cookbooks andtravel guides. She has studied and written about grains in the Amish country, inCentral Pennsylvania, in southeastern United States and in California. Mostrecently she studied small-scale rice growing in Thailand, which is actually kind of cool. She now lives in North Carolina. But we have her on today, Bill, because of abook – and people will laugh when I say this is one of my favorite books, but I reallyhave enjoyed learning from this particular book called “Cooking with Dried Beans.”Ladies and gentlemen, please say hello to Sara Pitzer. Sara, how are you?
Sara:
I’m just great. How are you?
Brian:
I’m doing great. Wasn’t that a cool story about Bill’s and the way they wouldsay “let’s go to the store to grab …” I picture him grabbing Bill by the back of theneck going “come on, let’s go out here.” And then they go out and dig up some stuff and head over to the barn. That’s a pretty cool story, don’t you think?
Sara:
It reminds me of pretty much how I grew up, so yeah, I love it.
Bill:
We never needed any coupons and every day everything was on sale,drastically discounted. The only thing you had to worry about is stuff going bad if you didn’t eat it quick enough.
Sara:
Of course you do remember sweat labor …
Bill:
Well, yeah. I don’t count that as money. But it’s something people areunwilling to do today, in most cases. Sweat labor is one of those rare – you’retalking about something that is a museum piece. Brian – in Chicago, at theMuseum of Natural History – isn’t there a little thing on sweat labor there that theyused to have years and years ago?
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