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Ben Greenfield Podcast 155

Ben Greenfield Podcast 155

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Listen to this podcast http://www.bengreenfieldfitness.com/2011/07/episode-155-what-is-naturopathic-medicine/
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Podcast#155fromhttp://www.bengreenfieldfitness.com/2011/07/episode-155- what-is-naturopathic-medicine/ Introduction: Hey folks, this is Ben Greenfield and I had a medical emergency this week. Don’t worry, I’m okay and you can read about whathappened over at the most recent post atBenGreenfieldFitness.com,  entitled “The Art of Using Antibiotics”, but today’s podcast is stillgoing to be highly educational. I’m going to bring you from deep inthe Ben Greenfield Fitness archives an interview that I consider to be with one of the best guests that we’ve had on this podcast. Thereare a few mind-blowingly smart physicians who come on and dointerviews at Ben Greenfield Fitness; Dr. Robby Mitchell is one, Dr.David Minkoff is another, Dr. Richard Cohen is another, there’s alocal guy whose opinions I trust immensely – he’s a naturopathicphysician, he’s name is Dr. Todd Schlapfer and he is the guy who’sgoing to tell you about naturopathic medicine and what it is intoday’s podcast, and this guy literally is, one of the top guys in thecountry – knows what he’s talking about. So, listen in to that and we’ll be back to regular podcast episode next week, so until then,this is Ben Greenfield, signing out.Ben: Hey podcast listeners, this is Ben Greenfield and I’m here today  with an exciting interview on naturopathic medicine. I have withme on the other line, the 2005 Naturopathic Physician of the Yearfor the entire nation. He is a naturopathic physician out of Coeur D’ Alene, Idaho. He’s a physician for Coeur D’ Alene Healing Arts inCoeur D’ Alene, and his name is Dr. Todd Schlapfer, goes by Dr.Todd to his patients and his friends and he’s been practicing inCoeur D’ Alene for about 25 years in naturopathic medicine. He hasa lot of experience so he’s going to be able to provide us with quite a bit of insight on this form of medicine. Dr. Todd studied over inPortland at one of the most established naturopathic educationalinstitutions in the country and he studied at the National College of Natural Medicine, and Dr. Todd, I want to welcome you to the show and thank you for coming with us today.Dr. Todd: Thank you, Ben.Ben: So, I want to hear a little bit, and I think this will be interesting forthe audience to hear about how you became involved innaturopathic medicine. What road did you take?Dr. Todd: I took a lot of different roads I suppose. It wasn’t a straight line atall, but I guess, to try and keep it into sort of a summarizedresponse, I would say I was a real curious kid and wanted tounderstand the mystery of life and ended up studying a lot of science and then specifically, move towards biology and learned, I
 
 was first a biologist and learned about how living organisms havean intrinsic capacity to self-correct and or adapt to conditions, and what I learned in dealing with plants and animals became sointriguing to me that I began to develop what I would call a passionfor trying to understand how that’s true for human beings. One of the most prevailing lessons that I learned in studying and practicingas a biologist was how critical the interconnections are betweenconditions and or biology or physiological biology and it was almost,I can say, a startling experience for me to really appreciate how interconnected everything is, and I simultaneously learned thatthere was a body of health care or medicine dedicated to theprinciple of how interconnected things are. I had done treatment asa biologist, but became discouraged in terms of going into atraditional study of medicine simply because it was so narrowed toa particular therapy, either surgery or medication, and it was pretty much a discouraging experience for me to continue there and that’s why I went off and didn’t finish in biology. So, that’s where I think Istood at the root of how I became interested in naturopathicmedicine – it was to try and find a way to integrate my interest innatural life forms and forces with life as a human being, and it wasexciting for me to find out about naturopathic medicine and so, Istarted off by attending the Naturopathic College of NaturalMedicine in Portland, Oregon in 1979 and never regretted it. It’s been such a blessing for me to find that and to find the opportunity to actually practice this, so there you have it.Ben: Yeah! Now, when we throw around a term like naturopathicmedicine, I know that some people are aware that there are MDsand NDs, but I would like to hear from you, what you would say theprimary differences are between those 2 types of physicians.Dr. Todd: Well, the precept or the principle behind naturopathic medicine is what we refer to as Vis medicatrix naturae, the Latin for…Ben: I was going to guess Latin or Spanish.Dr. Todd: Yeah Latin for, means the healing power of nature. It goes back to what I just said about how, as a biologist, I became, via curiosity,interested in how everything was connected and how it has this self-correcting capacity. The healing power of nature is, we’ll justsummarize that, and allopathic medicine is based upon the preceptof the law of opposites. In other words, it practices how to suppressa symptom. In other words, that the principal focus of care is thesymptom itself rather than the cause, and what happened, albeit a very beneficial practice because it’s very appropriate when it comesto life-saving procedures and emergencies, but it is very poor at being able to resurrect, rehabilitate or reverse, simply because it’s
 
 based upon the principle of suppression. When in actuality, whatthe body is doing, the human body is doing, is trying to self-correct.So what needs to happen is to provide something that’scomplimentary to that intrinsic force or human nature that helpsrehabilitate that capacity to adapt or to heal and re-establish balance. That’s the principal difference. It’s not to say that one is bad, one is good. It’s just simply to say there is a difference.Ben: Right!Dr. Todd: And they need to be, wherever possible, married in other words,integrated.Ben: Well, I think a perfect example of how you might find yourself integrating the philosophies of allowing a disease to play its courseor even allowing your body to operate as naturally as possible, wellat the same time, perhaps using allopathic medicine to correctcertain problems wouldbe... I had a recent post onBenGreenfieldFitness.com on the podcast, where I’ve beenstruggling quite a bit with an IT band injury and I would say that, asa tri-athlete and the reason I’m using this example is because a lotof the people who listen to this show are involved in enduranceathletics, I use more of an allopathic, suppress the disease,corticosteroid injection at 1 point so that I was able to complete therace, but at the same time, I’ve been doing a lot of differentmodalities such as increased Vitamin C intake, fluorophone extract,anti-inflammatories and things of that nature, to help play a little bit more of a preventive role in the problem, and so, I think that in ahealthy lifestyle, I don’t know if this is what you’re trying to say butthe two can coincide, right? Naturopathic and allopathic medicine?Dr. Todd: They can cooperate and collaborate and they can, very often, bringthe best of both to each individual’s health care, but they can alsoclash and that is why in the study in the matriculation process of  becoming a naturopathic physician, the first 2 years are dedicatedto learning allopathic medicine, and that studies the same anatomy,same physiology, same disease processes, same dissections. Welearned everything possible about what can happen to this human biology in mind, but then there’s the lie in the road about the thirdand the fourth year where you begin to study what to do about thatonce you understand what’s going on or have made a diagnosis thenit becomes an issue of what to do about it. And so, in order topractice good naturopathic medicine, it’s very important that thephysician understand allopathic medicine because most patientsare going to come from that background. Most patients are going tocome from having been treated allopathically. Most important that we understand drugs, drug interactions, if a person is on a

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