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Khrushevs Second Secrei' Speech

Khrushevs Second Secrei' Speech

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TRANSlATED
EXCERPI'S
PAGE
6:
KHRUSHa!EVS
SECOND
SECREI'
SPEECH
didn't
deny
it in
the
past.
and
we
don~
deny
it now. Therefore,
on
this, Stalin
was
a Marxist.
and
he
served,
and
used
all
the methods
available. He
usedthemso
that in this
struggle
to
affirm
[the new],
he
destroyed
his
own
people.
His
own people
were
destroyed
(svoikhunichtozhal).
Of
course
it's possible.This
was
in every party. There
were always
cases
where
someone
was
under
the suspicion
of
being
anagent
provocateur.
Sometimes
investigations
and
courts
were
used,
but
it later
turned
out
that
they
had
been
honest
people. Were
there
cases
Wee
these?
Of
course there
were.
And
it
was
the
same
in
the
Polish party.
It
was
everywhere.
If
there's
an
underground,
if
there's a struggle,
then
i~s
always possible.
And
the
fact that
the
enemy sends
its
agents
is
!mown
to everybody, comrades. Its all a
question
ofintelligence, methods,
and
abilities. Stalin
had such
views,
he
understood
it
well,
and
tried to protecthimself.
And in
protecting
the
revolution,
he
got to
the
point where,
as
they
say,
the
artillery fired
on
its
own
army.Well,
my
dear
friend, I
can~
say
anything
else. I
would
be
dishonorable,
if
after
his
death, everything
was
blamed on
him. That
wouldn~
be
very
smart.
We
would
then
not
have
been
Marxists, or
we
would
not have
understood it
and
explained
it correctly. Stalin
in
particularly
was
a Marxist. A Marxist.
Wethink
so.
The question
of
his mistakes
on
the questions
of theory,
and
in
other instances, is not
beingdiscussed
right now,
comrades.
This
was
a
manwho
devoted his
body
and
soul
to
the
working class.
There
isn~
a single
doubt about
it.
But...
..
always,
so
to
speak,
humans are
fallible.
Something unpleasant
is omitted,
something
pleasant
is
exaggerated.
So
this
kind
of
lesson
is
not
accepted
as
a valid
source
of history. I don't
want
to insult
our
elders, I myself
am
not young,
but
I !mow
that
sometimes
.....
[about events] forty to
fifty
years ago,
everyone
tells his
own
[version]
...
Stalin valued
every
revolutionary.
It
had
to
be
seen.
We
saw
it.
We're
now
talking
about the negative
[side
of]
history. But, Stalin, comrades,
if
I could talk
about the
good
times, [Stalin's] attention
and
caring.
1bis
was
a revolutionary.
He
lived life,
but
he had
a
persecution
mania
(marilla presledovaniia)
about
somebody
pursuinghim
.....
And,
because
of it,
he
would never stop
.
....
He
,
even
his
own
relatives
.....
He shot
them.
Because,
he
thought that
the
brother of his first wife-a
Georgian
woman,
shedied
a long time ago.(From
the
audience: Alilueva. No, Alilueva's
the
last wife.) Svanidze. Svanidze. Herbrother.
This
was
a friend of Stalin's.
This
was
already
an
old
man.
He
was
a Menshevik,
then
he
joined
the
party,
and
we
often
saw
him
with
Stalin.And, evidently, Beria
suggested
that
this
Svanidze
wasan
agent,
that
he
was
an
enemy,
and
that
he
had
a directive to
kill
Stalin. Stalin, ofcourse,
said
listen,
he
sleeps
over
at
my
place,
he
dines with
me,
he's often
been
with me.
So,
why
is
he
not
doing
what
he's
supposed
to? He
could
have
poisoned
me
a
long
time
ago. But, Beria tells him:
''No.You
!mow
there
are
different agents.
Some
getthe assignment
immediately
.
Some agents
are
kept
near
you,
behave
normally,
then
the
time comes,
he
gets
the
signal,
and
then
he'll
do
it!"
Stalin believed him. Svanidze
was
arrested. He
was
interrogated
by
all
methods
[i.e., torture].
He
was
sentenced
to execution
by
shooting. Stalin lived
with
Svanidze for
so many
years;
something
human
[remained];
so
he
still
had
doubts. Then,
he
orders Beria:
When
Svanidze
is
about
to
be
shot
,tell
him
that
if
he
admits his
guiltStalin
was
already
sure
that
Svanidze
was
an
enemy-andasks
for forgiveness,
we
will
forgive
him.
We
will
forgive
him.
Before Svanidze
was
shot,
weare
told,
he
was
told Stalin's words,
and
he
said:"Exactly
what
am
I guilty of?
Why should
I
ask
for forgiveness.
rm
not a criminal.
I'm
a
member
of
the
party.
rm
an
honest
person. I
didn~
commit
any
crimes
before Stalin,
and
before
the
party
and
country. I
won~
ask."
And
he
was
shot. That's
what
was
happening.
So,
why
did
Stalin destroy [Svanidze]?
Hedestroyed
him
simply
so
(prostotak)
..
..
.
He
believed
he
was
an
enemy.We
have
torack
our
brains
to
explain
things that
ar
enot
so
eas
y.
You
hav
eto
complicate
this
question
alittlebit.
Only
then
will
you
nnderstand
correctly,
and
correctly
give
an
exp
lanation.
This
is a complicated question.The
beginning
of
thewar
and
Stalin.
Comrades,
here,
it
was said
that maybe
we
couldhave
used
it
to o
ur
advantage,
when he
turned
out
to
be
..
.
..
This
was
impossible,
comrades
.
The
warbegan
..
..
.
he
enemy
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TRANSLATED
EXCERPIS PAGE
4:KHRUSHCHEV'S
SECOND
SECRET SPEECH
collectivelyfind thecorrect solution.Stalin
was
telling
us
that thecapitalist world
will
fool
us, that we're likeblind kittens. But,
if
Stalin
came
back
now;
we
would
show
him what
we've
done
afterhim,
and
how
we've
cleaned
up
the
atmosphere.
I
think
that Stalincouldn'thave
done
it,
and
in tenyears.
And
if
he
had
livedalittle bit longer,
then
he
possibly
wouldhave
started
another
waL
listen!
When
Stalin died, l
09 people were
killed. l
09
people died
because
everyone
moved
likea
mob and
smothered
them. This is just
such
a psychosis(psikhos).
Some
people,
when
they
were
in the
hall
near
thecasket, started crying-What
are
we
going
to
do now? Comrades,
common
people
is
one
thing,but
how
many
party
members
and
Komsomol
members
thought
when
Stalin died,
what
will
happen
after hin1?
Is
it
proper?
Is
it
appropriate to
imagine
a hero,
and
make
everything
dependenton
him?
Comrades,
dowethen need
the party?
What
is
it?
It
means
not believing in
human
judgment, notbelievingin the forceof
de~ocracy;
not believing
in
collective leadership.
Comrades,
then
let's
choose
a king.
The
monarchists
say
their
system
is better,
because
all
your elections
depend on
your voters,
and
they
adapt
[to
each
other),
but
our
monarch,
he
was
given the power
to
rule
and manage by
God.
Then
we must
agree
with
even such
an
absurdity.
And
now; we're trying to
break
this
myth
of
power
and
infallibility.
Some
say;
what
would you
have done
during
the
war,
if
you didn't
have
Stalin? Defeated
the Germans.
Defeated
them-and
defeated
them
sooner, with less blood [lost].
I'm
sure
of
it.
And maybe
we
could
have
avoided the
waL
Maybe,
if
ourpolicy
was
a little smarter,
maybe,
we
could have avoided the waL Nobody knows. Thatis
how
I
andmy
friends in ourcollective
see
these
things.
listen,
such
absurdity.
When
Lenin
died,
no
busts. Stalin died, there wasn't a single townor
city
where
a
monument
to
him
was
not
placed.
We,
when he
died,
we
couldn't
imagine what
to
name
after
him,
toimmortalize
him
the
day
he
died,
because whatever
we did
would
have
been
sigrillicantlyworse
than
what
he had
done
during his lifetime.
Can
this
be
correct?
Can
this
be
correct upbringing? There
was
no
modesty; although
he
talked a lot about modesty. There
were
many;
many
shortcomings,which,unfortunately;
we
could not...
..
We ourselves suffered from
it.
I vacationed with
him
one
yeaL
I lived next[door]. I told
my
friends
and
they
understood
it.
They
said
that
if
you're still alive after thisvacation,
say
"Thank
God
."
Why?
Because
I
had
to
dine
with
him
everyday.
It
means
I
had
to
be
drunk
every day. I
beg
your pardon.
Am
I
saying
it too frankly; yes? (Voices from the
audience
[in Russian]: You'resayingthetruth.
Say
it.
Say
it.)
You
justcan't
do
this. We
had
foreigners arriving
and
coming
over sometimes. We
were
ashamed when we
came
for
dinner,
because
there
was
a battery
of
mortars (batareia minometov)
[Eel..
not
e:
hard
liquor]
on
the
table.There's a limit to everything
...
.
It
was
like this, comrades.
It
was. But,
if
one
doesn'tdrink
and
eat with
him,
you're his enemy.
You're
his
enemy. This kind
of
absurdity;
why
did it
happen?
If
he
was
not protected
by
the
cult
of
personality;
he
would have
been
kicked out,
and
told: Listen, dear, drinking
so
heavily isn't allowed.
You
have
to
work
We're responsible
for
the
work done. He [Stalin]
hin1self
once
told
us
in
the
heat
of conversation:
'Go
on
talking.Once,
Lenin
called
me
[to
him]
and
tells me: Why;
my
dear
(baten'ka), are you drinking
so
heavily? You're
buying
champagne
by
the case, getting
people
drunk.
And
he
wanted
to put
me
on
trial."
He
[Stalin]told
us
this
.
....
We
couldn't tell
him
that it would
have
been
for
the
best
if
Lenin
haddone
it,
because
if
you
said
it,
you
wouldn't
be
going
home
anymore
.
You're
not children,comrades.
You
should
understand. I
have
a lot of Fblish friends.
And
[Stalin]
mademe
aFble. Stalin
asked
me:'What'syour last name?'' I said: ''Khrushchev.""Your last
name
ends
like a Fblish
one
with [one line black out in text] ski." I said: "Who knows. I lived
for
a long time
as
Khrushchev.
and now
its-ski." Comrades, I
was
standingnear
Yezhov,
and
Stalin said:
"Yezhov
said
it.
"Yezhov replied:
'1
didnt
"
How
is
it
you didn't
say
it?
When
you were
drunk,
yousaid
it
to
Ma.lenkov."
Ma.lenkov
passes
by.
Stalin
says:
"Did
Yezhov tell
you
that Khrushchev's Fblish?"He
says:
"No."
You
see,they'll say;
why
is
Khrushchev denying.
Frrst
of
all,
I'm
a Russian,
I'm
not denying. Second,
what
kind
of
crime
is
it
if
I
hadbeen
Fblish?
What
kindofcrime? Lookcomrades,
when
Stalin died,
Beria
took hispost.
And
he
was
then
the
most
influential
man
among
us.
Beria
and
Ma.lenkov.
He
took thepost of internal
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