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Car Collector Chronicles 09-11

Car Collector Chronicles 09-11

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Published by Dave Yaros
Sep 2011 edition (09/2011, 5 pgs.) of Car Collector Chronicles; a free, monthly, online, ad free newsletter for the classic/collector car enthusiast

ARTICLES - Gilmore Museum, Automobile (Pre-purchase) Inspection, Humor on Wheels

PHOTOS - 1932 Franklin, 1939 Packard, 1948 Tucker, 1956 Cadillac

FILE NAME - Car Collector Chronicles 09-11.pdf
Sep 2011 edition (09/2011, 5 pgs.) of Car Collector Chronicles; a free, monthly, online, ad free newsletter for the classic/collector car enthusiast

ARTICLES - Gilmore Museum, Automobile (Pre-purchase) Inspection, Humor on Wheels

PHOTOS - 1932 Franklin, 1939 Packard, 1948 Tucker, 1956 Cadillac

FILE NAME - Car Collector Chronicles 09-11.pdf

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Volume IV, Issue 9
fifties Ford 841 tractor used to pull apassenger shuttle.For the detail oriented, the mu-seum has a research library which isopen to the public. Our photo pagethis month features some Gilmorecars. Here is theGilmore website link.
Last month I alluded to thefact that our July vacation in-cluded a trip to the GilmoreMuseum. The Gilmore is lo-cated in Hickory Corners, MI.Hickory Corners is a small townnorth of Kalamazoo. We ap-proached from the east, comingin from Ann Arbor. Withoutany directional signs, be it oneither the inter-state or surfaceroads, the museum was not aneasy find. Only after consider-able back road meandering didwe manage to stumble upon it.The museum is located on 90acres of country real estate. Itis comprised of a number of show buildings. Most are sub-stantial, and well maintained, 2-storied farm barns. Some barnsand buildings are dedicated tothe display of a specific vehiclemarque. In fact, the Cadillac-LaSalle Club is in the process of constructing a permanent dis-play at the Gilmore. It is de-signed to look like a Caddydealership.I will tell you up front, themuseum is not a quick walk through. You should plan onspending a good portion of aday on the grounds if you desireto take in all of the offerings.What one notices immediatelyis that all the cars are meticu-lously maintained. It is also myunderstanding that all the carson display are in fact operable.There are a number of veryinteresting rides. One that jumps to mind is a Tucker; #47of 51 produced. It has less than50 actual miles on the odome-ter. The value of this car is wellin excess of $1 Million! In addi-tion to the car, PrestonTucker’s office has been recre-ated on-site for your viewing.Another neat touch is that themuseum does provide inter-barn transit, via rides in classicvehicles. Having familiarity withone transporter, I was mostimpressed to see a pristine mid-
The Gilmore 
on the Web
Find GDYNets on the web:
-THE FORUM http://ccc.activeboard.comCar Collector Chronicles-scribdSaved 62 -1962 Olds web sitehttp://www.freewebs.com/ jeandaveyarosThe Gray Lady -
1955 CadillacCoup
de Ville web site
A website devotedto our 1962 Oldsmobile Dy-namic 88 convertible. The sitealso has a lot of information onOldsmobiles and its founder,Ransom Eli Olds.
This web-site features our 1955 CadillacCoupé de Ville and Caddy in-formation.
A website de-voted to a myriad of interests.Foremost is extensive informa-tion on the “Steel City” of Gary,IN. There are also offerings onsteel making, U.S. Steel-GaryWorks, U.S. Marine Corps, M14assault rifle, of course Oldsmo-bile, and the tragic story of themurder of Gary, IN Police Lt.George Yaros.
September 2011Car Collector Chronicles
Car Collector Chronicles 
Car Collecting Today
Classic Rides
Reports From the Field
(1902- )
é (1987-1993)
The Gilmore
GDYNetsOn the Web
Auto Inspections
Humor on Wheels
Photo Gallery
Forum EMail:
What with the problems encountered by multiple New Zealand buyersof U.S. classic cars, and my repeated urgings of having a car inspectedbefore shelling out hard, cold cash, I thought recounting my “real world”experience might shed some light on what to expect from an inspection.My odyssey began more than a few years ago now, in an effort to sat-isfy my lust for a mid-fifties Cadillac (See
The Ride I Still Want in
the De-cember 2008 - Vol. 1, Iss. 2 - edition of 
). In particular, I was look-ing for a 1956 Caddy Coupé de Ville. Like most folk, I scoured mags,the net, you-name-it, for possible candidates. I came across one in thedigital edition of 
Hemming’s Mo-tor News
that had potential. Itwas in Washington state, while Iam in Wisconsin. Here is thepic that accompanied the ad.She looks pretty darn sharp,right?Her appearance merited asecond, closer look. I madecontact with the seller and received more info on the ride, and some of her history.When dealing with a seller, I have always found it more than helpful,as well as revealing, to ask probing questions. Once such questionwas/is, “What on the car does not work or needs attention?” Is the an-swer straight forward and frank, or an attempt to dodge the question?How the question is answered tells one a lot about both the person withwhom they are dealing, and the condition of the ride they are consider-ing.Having procured as much subjective seller information as I could, I stillwanted to know more. In this instance, I sought the aid of Cadillac-LaSalle Club members. I had hoped to find a Caddy owner close to thelocation of the car who would be willing to take a look for me. I was notsuccessful in that endeavor. That I was not is not a reason to precludesuch an option should you be in a similar situation.I simply was not willing to spend big bucks without someone actually“laying eyes and hands” on the car. But who? I turned to the net to seewhat inspection services were available; at what cost. I did not relysolely on the web site representations. I engaged in electronic dialogwith a couple of services. When doing so, it behooves you to be very
Automobile Inspections
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When dealing with a seller, I have alwaysfound it morethan helpful, aswell asrevealing, toask probing questions.Once suchquestion was/ is, “What onthe car doesnot work or needsattention?” 
specific with inspection service providers regarding your needs. After all, you are the one paying the bill. You want/need to know in advanceprecisely what it is you are buying, with regard to both the inspectionservices and the car. Know exactly what it is you are going to receive interms of the inspection report. The last thing you want is to find thatsome critical aspect has not been covered in the purchased report.One criteria on which I recommend that you insist, is that the car beviewed from underneath. Whatever is needed to do so, be it a jack &stands or a lift, must be available and utilized. If the seller is not willingto permit, or the inspection service to conduct, a thorough undercarriageinspection,
Buyer Beware! 
Nor should any purchase be considered if the seller does not permit the inspector to drive the automobile.In my particular case the vehicle underside was inspected, the car was driven and 145 pictures accompanied the report. The pictureswere critical in assessing the written inspection report.Now, lets take a look at what I learned, and what you too could findout, from an inspection report. Here is what I was able to detail for theseller about his inspected car (Note -This letter was never sent by me):
I want to let you know the auto inspection report was received by me on 3 February. It is 18pages long. Attached to it were 145 photos of your car!The submitted information has been studied by me, long and hard. It raises areas of concernwhich were not present from our previous email communications. In addition to what youtold me about the car, I now know:The windshield has a rock chip in it; necessitating repair or replacement.Both the front and rear windows have been resealed with silicone adhesive.The silicone adhesive has adhered to the outer edges of the roof in both the back and front. Whether it is able to be removed without damage to the paint is in ques-tion.The condition of all the rubber gaskets, seals, bushings, etc. is such as to require re-placement.The dashboard/steering column has some pretty serious paint deficits, detractingsignificantly from the appearance of the front cabin.The door bottoms and undercarriage exhibit advanced levels of corrosion.Inexplicably, there are a number of missing fasteners on the underside of the car.The car has also recently been involved in some activity which has dented the gastank, and removed a large portion of the sprayed on undercoating.While not major, certainly confounding is the misplacement of the Cadillac script onthe grille. It belongs on the driver side. How, when and why it came to be installedon the passenger side is a mystery.Mechanically, it appears that at a minimum the driveshaft u-joints are in need of re-placement.Also, the smoking engine may be due for a rebuild.The condition rating of the car was one of minus three (-3), placing it at the low end of the“driver” category. (See attached Condition Rate Code.)
One criteriaon which I recommend that you insist,is that the car be viewed fromunderneath.
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