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Kristeva on the Symbolic and the Semiotic elements of signification
Semiotic elements: the drives as they discharge into language, associated with rhythm and tone,
subterranean element of meaning that doesn't signify
Symbolic elements: that which signifies, associated with syntax and grammar
Semiotic gives rise and challenges the symbolic.

Without the symbolic we have only delirium or nature.

Without the semiotic, language would be completely empty, if not impossible. We would have no reason to speak if it were not for the semiotic drive force. So this oscillation and fluctuation between the semiotic and the symbolic is productive and necessary.

Kristeva and Lacan
Kristeva offers an alternative model to Lacan's mirror stage and his order of the Real, the Imaginary and the
Lacan's orders:

The Real: The state of nature from which we have been forever severed by our entrance into language.
There is nothing but need. No separation between self and external world. A state of fullness or
completeness that is subsequently lost through the entrance into language. The Real is impossible as we
cannot express it in language because the very entrance into language marks our irrevocable separation
from the real. Still, the real continues to exert its influence throughout our adult lives since it is the rock
against which all our fantasies and linguistic structures ultimately fail.

The Imaginary: The fundamental narcissism by which the human subject creates fantasy images of both himself and his ideal object of desire. Tied to the mirror stage. Continues to exert its influence throughout the life of the adult and is not merely superceded in the child's movement into the symbolic order.

The symbolic: The social world of linguistic communication, intersubjective relations, knowledge of
ideological conventions, and the acceptance of the law. Once a child enters into language and accepts the
rules and dictates of society, it is able to deal with others. Aligned with the Oedipus complex, the symbolic
is made possible because of your acceptance of the Name-of-the-Father, those laws and restrictions that
control both your desire and the rules of communication.

Kristeva's alternative:

0-6 months of age. The Chora: Here we are dominated by a chaotic mix of perceptions, feelings, and
needs. We have not yet separated from mother or world, taking into all the pleasures experienced without
any acknowledgment of boundaries. We are here closest to the pure materiality of existence, or what Lacan
terms "the Real," purely dominated by drives.

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