2011.10.31 To What Extent Should Lessons Be Planned or Spontaneous (Follow-Up)

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Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:32:24 +0000 - tweet id 131106268457873408 - #3
@ColinTGraham Today's topic: "To what extent should lessons be planned or spontaneous?" #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:33:00 +0000 - tweet id 131106419092094976 - #4
@ColinTGraham @mathfour Hi Bon... maybe our first airborne #mathchat participant... ;-) hfour
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:34:03 +0000 - tweet id 131106683467468800 - #5
@republicofmath To every extent possible @ColinTGraham Today's topic: "To what extent should lessons be planned or spontaneous?" #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:34:15 +0000 - tweet id 131106734034010112 - #6
@mrprcollins as a GTP (teacher trainee) we are expected to plan ALL of our lessons! TP #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:34:18 +0000 - tweet id 131106743076913152 - #7
@mathfour @ColinTGraham I think we should figure out what "planned" means first. Is it beforehand, or can you plan on the fly? #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:34:22 +0000 - tweet id 131106761590587393 - #8
@mathfour @ColinTGraham Indeed - I'm the first member of the Mile High Math club! TGraham #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:35:04 +0000 - tweet id 131106938472759298 - #9
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Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:35:23 +0000 - tweet id 131107017648652289 - #10
@cybraryman1 Don't agree with "If you fail to plan, you plan to fail." Some of my best lessons were spontaneous #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:35:35 +0000 - tweet id 131107066956890112 - #11
@ColinTGraham @mathfour Ah... only if no one living in Denver has taken part in no-one #mathchat before, Bon!
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:36:05 +0000 - tweet id 131107191976497152 - #12
Monday, 31st October 2011
To what extent should lessons be planned or spontaneous? (follow (follow-up)
@michellek107 Agree w/you! RT @cybraryman1: Don't agree with "If you fail to plan, you plan to fail." Some of my best lessons were spontaneous #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:36:08 +0000 - tweet id 131107206333603840 - #13
@timbuckteeth RT @cybraryman1: Don't agree with "If you fail to plan, you plan to fail." Some of my best lessons were spontaneous #mathchat < Absolutely!
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:36:31 +0000 - tweet id 131107304887160832 - #14
@mathfour @cybraryman1 Should be "If you fail to plan, you plan to have a great class!" #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:36:41 +0000 - tweet id 131107345483825153 - #15
@republicofmath I always expected pre service teachers to have detailed lesson plans pre-service @mrprcollins #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:36:41 +0000 - tweet id 131107344804360192 - #16
@cybraryman1 Loved when a student had a problem and class helped with the solution #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:37:09 +0000 - tweet id 131107460688777216 - #17
@damoward RT @timbuckteeth: RT @cybraryman1: Don't agree with "If you fail to plan, you plan to fail." Some of my best lessons were spontaneous #mathchat < Absolutely!
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:37:11 +0000 - tweet id 131107471178731520 - #18
@mathfour @ColinTGraham Pilot just announce we were at 25,000 feet. So I'm the first in the almost-5-mile-high-#mathchat #mathchat-club #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:37:40 +0000 - tweet id 131107592016625664 - #19
@ColinTGraham @cybraryman1 It's not about the "one off" or experienced teacher who "one-off" can handle spontaneous events, so much as quantity of plan #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:37:49 +0000 - tweet id 131107631455666176 - #20
@ColinTGraham @mathfour Wha that in kilometres... ? ;-P #mathchat What's

Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:38:13 +0000 - tweet id 131107729136828416 - #21
@mathfour @cybraryman1 And that's the most fun. What can you do RIGHT NOW to make this look awesome? #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:38:25 +0000 - tweet id 131107778906423299 - #22
@mrprcollins @RealCBD definitely! it's one of the QTS standards too - being able to adapt your lesson plan to suit your learners #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:38:55 +0000 - tweet id 131107905641529344 - #23
@brian_svetz RT @cybraryman1: Don't agree with "If you fail to plan, you plan to fail." Some of my best lessons were spontaneous #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:39:34 +0000 - tweet id 131108068938366976 - #24
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Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:39:37 +0000 - tweet id 131108082632761347 - #25
@Caplee62 @cybraryman1 Must know where ur going in order 2 get there. Must be well planned but leave room for spontaneous, teacha teachable moments #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:39:39 +0000 - tweet id 131108093412114432 - #26
@republicofmath 7.62 @ColinTGraham @mathfour What's that in kilometres... ? ; ;P#mathchat

Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:39:42 +0000 - tweet id 131108102014648 131108102014648320 - #27
@missradders @ColinTGraham Planned ito resources/ common misconceptions but spontaneous ito ability to adapt to pup progress or lack of #mathchat pupil
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:39:46 +0000 - tweet id 131108120310198275 - #28
@harrisonalg Need to have a plan of intended topics/methods in mind, but able to switch directions as needed. Like crossing a stream. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:40:04 +0000 - tweet id 131108196831068161 - #29
@republicofmath Don't you do that routinely? @cybraryman1 Loved when a student had @cybraryman1 a problem and class helped with the solution #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:40:44 +0000 - tweet id 131108362887766016 - #30
@missradders @ColinTGraham In open ended problems completely spontaneous depending where pupils go with it. thought thru by teacher prior obv #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:40:55 +0000 - tweet id 131108411084517377 - #31
@mariposajanine #mathchat a balance is needed between a solid plan and the capability on the part of teacher to be flexible to suit student need
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:40:55 +0000 - tweet id 131108410262429696 - #32
@ColinTGraham More approximately 8 Gary... ; P RT @republicofmath: 7.62 @mathfour ;-P What's that in kilometres... ? ;-P #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:41:02 +0000 - tweet id 131108439916150785 - #33
@mathfour @ColinTGraham Flight attendant just said that I misheard - we're at 39,000 feet or 11.8 km #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:41:24 +0000 - tweet id 131108532052439040 - #34
@republicofmath I'm with @harrisonalg & Caplee62 #mathchat

Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:41:43 +0000 - tweet id 131108612016848896 - #35
@mathfour @Caplee62 must you know where you're going? #mathchat

Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:42:26 +0000 - tweet id 131108790757101569 - #36
@mariposajanine #mathchat Like crossing a stream, where you know where you are heading and have a sense of how to get there.. (cont) http://t.co/BAgFE4j1 nse
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:42:40 +0000 - tweet id 131108852165918720 - #37
@innovativeteach #mathchat Have you signed up to hear Alex Bellos at our Free Forum Nov 24th-http://bit.ly/qwz6nB It'd be great to see math specialists there
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:42:47 +0000 - tweet id 131108880754286592 - #38
@mrprcollins @RealCBD completely agree - I don't know what I'd do at the moment if I didn't have a plan?! Is this just a trainee teacher thing? #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:42:56 +0000 - tweet id 131108918888902656 - #39
@mariposajanine you need to know your students AND the content RT @mathfou @mathfour: @Caplee62 must you know where you're going? #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:43:03 +0000 - tweet id 131108947112378368 - #40
@republicofmath Oh yeah, 8km ( approx 26,247 ft) Colin @ColinTGraham #mathchat

Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:43:06 +0000 - tweet id 131108960697716736 - #41
@ColinTGraham @harrisonalg Hi Matt, welcome to #mathchat... Ability to switch isn't in ... question... the topic's about how detailed plans are, I think
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:43:24 +0000 - tweet id 131109035020791808 - #42
@republicofmath So which is it? @mathfour Flight attendant just said that I misheard we're at 39,000 feet or 11.8 km #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:43:41 +0000 - tweet id 131109105061462017 - #43
@mathfour @mrprcollins @RealCBD Could be a trainee teacher thing - I used to never walk in w/o a plan. Now I never plan. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:43:56 +0000 - tweet id 131109169444032512 - #44
@Biolady99 RT @mathchat: 30 mins, #mathchat: "To what extent should lessons be : planned or spontaneous?" #ukedchat #edchat #scichat #elemchat #asechat #gtchat#ntchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:44:00 +0000 - tweet id 131109184119898112 - #45
@mathfour @mariposajanine Knowing content is different than having a plan. plan.#mathchat

Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:44:19 +0000 - tweet id 131109266911272960 - #46
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Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:44:21 +0000 - tweet id 131109275945811968 - #47
@mariposajanine Not to me, the content holds it all together. RT @mathfour: @mariposajanine Knowing content is different than having a plan. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:44:59 +0000 - tweet id 131109434343694336 - #48
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Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:45:03 +0000 - tweet id 131109449942302720 - #49
@ColinTGraham Or? RT @mbteach: @cybraryman1 spontaneity most effective when @cybraryman1 there is a framework for it. No framework can =chaos=little learning #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:45:10 +0000 - tweet id 131109477700222978 - #50
@republicofmath Sure you do - but it's all internal, in mental models, not on paper. @mathfour Now I never plan #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:45:28 +0000 - tweet id 131109554980274176 - #51
@mrprcollins @mathfour is this because from exp u have a rough idea of plan in your head? i.e. you know roughly where you want things to go #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:45:31 +0000 - tweet id 131109566325850113 - #52
@mathfour @mariposajanine But all the content in math is really the same. L Like the same house, just different windows looking in. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:46:14 +0000 - tweet id 131109745972097024 - #53
@ColinTGraham Or... the 'chaos' is an environment that students have to 'find a way out of' ... if chaos is 'planned' @republicofmath @mathfour #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:46:33 +0000 - tweet id 131109826548862976 - #54
@missradders @ColinTGraham @mbteach @cybraryman1 Sometimes chaos=more learning - no? Sometimes the pupils take a line you hadn't thought of #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:46:34 +0000 - tweet id 131109830193725441 - #55
@mariposajanine #mathchat planning with other teachers invigorates my lessons. We can share ideas, strategies and we all learn something
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:46:43 +0000 - tweet id 131109869909581826 - #56
@mathfour @mrprcollins I guess so. Perhaps it is from doing it a zillion times. I know the metaphors that work - and those that REALLY don't #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:47:04 +0000 - tweet id 131109956605841408 - #57
@mrprcollins RT @mariposajanine: #mathchat planning with other teachers invigorates my lessons. We can share ideas, strategies and we all learn something
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:47:18 +0000 - tweet id 131110018304061440 - #58
@stefras @mathfour I often plan spontaneously particularly if I see a whole class struggling on a concept or skill. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:47:38 +0000 - tweet id 131110102102056963 - #59
@republicofmath @ColinTGraham Why are you copying me on a "chaos" comment? Do you know something? #mathchat
Monday, 31st October 2011 To what extent should lessons be planned or spontaneous? (follow (follow-up)
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:47:51 +0000 - tweet id 131110153754914 131110153754914816 - #60
@mathfour @ColinTGraham @mbteach @cybraryman1 you don't learn in one class. The chaos of which you write means stir stirring up the brain. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:47:56 +0000 - tweet id 131110174042759168 - #61
@ColinTGraham @innovativeteach We're just starting a #mathchat discussion now, Stuart. I'll plug it later ;-)
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:48:12 +0000 - tweet id 131110241814327296 - #62
@mrprcollins @mathfour this makes sense! So how long did it take you to get to that point where you didn't need a 'plan' as such?! #mathchat nt
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:48:26 +0000 - tweet id 131110301977411585 - #63
@mathfour @republicofmath You could be right. So much practice it's like riding a bike. And if I teach something new, I plan. hmm... #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:48:38 +0000 - tweet id 131110352187437056 - #64
@mariposajanine #mathchat after 25 years of teaching I still plan every lesson, but I have a better sense of where it is likely to go...
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:49:28 +0000 - tweet id 131110561067958272 - #65
@ColinTGraham In case anyone was wondering... the QTS @mrprcollins mentioned is Qualified Teacher Status in the UK... like a Teaching Cert in US #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:49:35 +0000 - tweet id 131110591866736640 - #66
@mbteach @mathfour @ColinTGraham @cybraryman1 in my experience observing chaotic classrooms with no plan or structure, little learning #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:49:46 +0000 - tweet id 131110637718880256 - #67
@harrisonalg PBITs may seem unplanned, but are quite planned. often unfold in ways planned. that seem chaotic. Learning is processing the chaotic. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:49:54 +0000 - tweet id 131110671915040770 - #68
@deryckball RT @Maths_Master: The educational value of creative disobediencehttp://t.co/BDIC2FKQ #math #maths #mathchat #edchat http://t.co/BDIC2FKQ
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:50:08 +0000 - tweet id 131110727841878016 - #69
@mrprcollins do you think students notice which teachers plan and which don't?!#mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:50:09 +0000 - tweet id 131110735429386240 - #70
@mbteach @mathfour @ColinTGraham @cybraryman1 unless unstructuredness is part of school culture and is part of a larger plan #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:50:14 +0000 - tweet id 131110753200652289 - #71
@mrprcollins RT @RealCBD: @mrprcollins Good teachers plan! Napoleon 'you have to plan even if it disappears upon first contact with the enemy!' #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:50:31 +0000 - tweet id 131110825615310848 - #72
@republicofmath Chaos = sensitivity to initial conditions = exponential decay of prediction. Planning might eliminate that, spontaneity ignite it #mathchat ing
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:50:39 +0000 - tweet id 131110858465091584 - #73
@mathfour @mrprcollins Probably after teaching 10 classes of a given course. And that's just a guess. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:50:40 +0000 - tweet id 131110862885883904 - #74
@mariposajanine #mathchat I would agree. Dangerous to encourage zero planning with inexperienced or teachers with low confiden (cont) http://t.co/md2J02r7
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:50:40 +0000 - tweet id 131110862726496257 - #75
@ColinTGraham What we missed last time, was the "to what extent"... = "how much" of the topic question... we seem to be skipping it now! #mathchat c
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:50:50 +0000 - tweet id 131110904724074496 - #76
@mariposajanine Of course! RT @mrprcollins: do you think students notice which teachers plan and which don't?! #mat #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:51:18 +0000 - tweet id 131111024261730304 - #77
@mbteach @mathfour @ColinTGraham @cybraryman1 sometime ppl might think my sometime class is controlled chaos. But I always have a plan :) #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:51:27 +0000 - tweet id 131111061192581120 - #78
@mathfour @deryckball "Creative disobedience" - that's cool sounding! #mathchat

Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:51:34 +0000 - tweet id 131111091148292097 - #79
@ShadiYazdan RT @cybraryman1: Loved when a student had a problem and class helped with the solution #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:51:36 +0000 - tweet id 131111097968242688 - #80
@ColinTGraham The best laid plans of mice and men gang aft a gley.... Robert Burns (while we are making quotes...) #m #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:52:14 +0000 - tweet id 131111257989328898 - #81
@Biolady99 RT @mariposajanine: #mathchat planning with other teachers invigorates my lessons. We can share ideas, strategies and we all learn something
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:52:15 +0000 - tweet id 131111261478993921 - #82
@mathfour @mrprcollins Sure - the one's who don't plan, students think are nuts, but they enjoy and learn and walk out wow'ed #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:52:28 +0000 - tweet id 131111315837165569 - #83
@kirstenchilds @mrprcollins Depends on the teacher. Some can handle chaos some need guidance. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:52:32 +0000 - tweet id 131111334908661760 - #84
@mrprcollins @mariposajanine in which case, shouldn't all our lessons be planned as best as we can!! #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:52:44 +0000 - tweet id 131111384837660672 - #85
@republicofmath Plan early, plan often, plan deeply, on paper or in your head. Then plan to be as spontaneous as you can #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:52:46 +0000 - tweet id 1311113 131111393851211778 - #86
@mariposajanine #mathchat the teacher needs to know what is going on. The sts need er learning intentions explicit too.
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:52:53 +0000 - tweet id 131111421814640640 - #87
@mathfour Yup. RT @kirstenchilds: @mrprcollins Depends on the teacher. Some can handle chaos some need guidance. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:53:33 +0000 - tweet id 131111587711959041 - #88
@mariposajanine #mathc #mathchat I think it is professional to plan. the most successful teachers do. RT @mrprcollins: @mariposajanin (cont) http://t.co/mnYhFqHg
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:53:38 +0000 - tweet id 131111610898059264 - #89
@ColinTGraham Diff qn? RT @mbteach: @missradders of course, but if we walk in w/out a plan, how do we know if kids are learning? @cybraryman1 #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:53:48 +0000 - tweet id 131111652849500160 - #90
@MathCurmudgeon @mrprcollins Yes, absolutely. They also notice if you overplan. That balance is why new teachers have so much difficulty at first. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:53:53 +0000 - tweet id 131111672499806208 - #91
@dmarain "Planned spontaneity" always worked best for me! Experience enabled me to best focus less on delivery of content and more on 'teaching' #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:54:01 +0000 - tweet id 131111707836825600 - #92
@mrprcollins @mathfour do they think they care though? Might students think 'oh they couldn't be bothered to plan today's lesson?!?' #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:54:02 +0000 - tweet id 131111710642806784 - #93
@mathfour @mrprcollins @mariposajanine If I plan, I get burned out and then I do the Ss a disservice. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:54:04 +0000 - tweet id 13111172 131111720147103744 - #94
@mrprcollins RT @mariposajanine: #mathchat I think it is professional to plan. the most successful teachers do. RT @mrprcollins: @mariposajanin (cont)http://t.co/mnYhFqHg (cont)http://t.co/mnYhFqHg
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:54:19 +0000 - tweet id 131111783887945728 - #95
@cybraryman1 A good teacher can adapt a plan on the fly to fit circumstances at that moment. It is a good idea to have a plan bu be flexible #mathchat but
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:54:28 +0000 - tweet id 131111819401109504 - #96
@ColinTGraham @mbteach @missradders @cybraryman1 "if kids are learning" is not the same as "if kids are learning a nominated X" #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:54:34 +0000 - tweet id 131111846445977601 - #97
@Biolady99 RT @mariposajanine: #mathchat I think it is professional to plan. the most successful teachers do. RT @mrprcollins: @mariposajanin (cont)http://t.co/mnYhFqHg (cont)http://t.co/mnYhFqHg
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:54:42 +0000 - tweet id 131111878595313665 - #98
@timbuckteeth RT @cybraryman1: A good teacher can adapt a plan on the fly to fit circumstances at that moment. It is a good idea to have a plan but be flexible #mathchat mstances
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:54:51 +0000 - tweet id 131111916922863616 - #99
@missradders @mbteach @colintgraham @cybraryman1 Yes you need plan. But may be as simple as an open ended prob you've thought thru before.. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:54:53 +0000 - tweet id 131111923486965761 - #100
@mrprcollins @MathCurmudgeon good point! I hadn't thought about it from the 'overplanning' side of the argument! #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:54:59 +0000 - tweet id 131111950 131111950796066816 - #101
@MissAPatterson RT @cybraryman1: A good teacher can adapt a plan on the fly to fit circumstances at that moment. It is a good idea to have a plan but be flexible #mathchat ent.
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:55:03 +0000 - tweet id 131111968852549632 - #102
@mathfour @mariposajanine I've taught classes lost. And sometimes it works, and sometimes it doesn't #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:55:25 +0000 - tweet id 131112059122360320 - #103
@missradders @mbteach @colintgraham @cybraryman1 ...you may offer no or little guidance. Which may appear chaotic as pupils think it thru? #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:55:29 +0000 - tweet id 131112074012143616 - #104
@mariposajanine #mathchat Agree RT @cybraryman1: A good teacher can adapt a plan on the fly to ... have a plan but be flexible
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:55:30 +0000 - tweet id 131112081167613952 - #105
@Dragon09 A good teacher can adapt a plan on the fly to fit circumstances at that moment. It is a good idea to have a plan but be flexible #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:55:30 +0000 - tweet id 131112078634258432 - #106
@republicofmath "The best laid schemes o' mice an' men Gang aft agley" best-laid @ColinTGraham. I think Burns foresaw this #mathchat Point of plan is to have a scheme
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:55:56 +0000 - tweet id 131112188445331456 - #107
@ColinTGraham @missradders @mbteach @cybraryman1 So the 'plan' could be to achieve a particular goal, without a 'timetabled lesson agenda'... #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:56:19 +0000 - tweet id 131112284675244032 - #108
@mrprcollins @mathfour is it possible to plan every lesson every week without getting 'burned out'?! is balance the key? #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:56:37 +0000 - tweet id 1311123605376 131112360537636864 - #109
@mbteach @missradders yup. This spurred from @cybraryman1 questioning the concept of not planning=planning to fail. @ColinTGraham #mathchat il.
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:56:39 +0000 - tweet id 131112371598008320 - #110
@mathfour @mrprcollins I don't think my Ss ever thought that. The crazed passion in my voice when telling them what they were all capable of #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:56:39 +0000 - tweet id 131112371463786498 - #111
@kirstenchilds @mrprcollins @MathCurmudgeon One can over plan but be flexible... One #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:56:50 +0000 - tweet id 131112414266658816 - #112
@mariposajanine #mathchat Yes, and let students in on the plan too...RT @ColinTGraham: So the 'plan' could be to achieve a pa (cont) http://t.co/ehXfq31s
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:57:02 +0000 - tweet id 131112467899219970 - #113
@mathfour @mrprcollins @mariposajanine Do you want to be professional or help kids learn? #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:57:16 +0000 - tweet id 131112522790080 131112522790080514 - #114
@mariposajanine why the dichotomy? RT @mathfour: @mrprcollins @mariposajanine Do you want to be professional or he kids learn? #mathchat help
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:57:38 +0000 - tweet id 131112615639396353 - #115
@harrisonalg Plan the general objectives/topic, but the art/magic is in being able to monitor current air in class & use that to further discus #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:57:49 +0000 - tweet id 131112662942752768 - #116
@newfirewithin RT @cybraryman1: Don't agree with "If you fail to plan, you plan to fail." with Some of my best lessons were spontaneous #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:58:10 +0000 - tweet id 131112753229340672 - #117
@ColinTGraham @mrprcollins @mariposajanine @KirstenChilds We need to remember the 'requirements' for pre-service or trainee teachers differs... #mathchat service
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:58:13 +0000 - tweet id 131112765443153921 - #118
@AlliPinney RT @innovativeteach: #mathchat Have you signed up to hear Alex Bellos at our Free Forum Nov 24th-http://bit.ly/qwz6nB It'd be great to see math specialists there ttp://bit.ly/qwz6nB
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:58:14 +0000 - tweet id 131112767989100544 - #119
@cybraryman1 @mbteach I always had a plan when I taught but was ready to change it on the fly. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:58:33 +0000 - tweet id 131112846556803072 - #120
@mariposajanine What will the students learn - can't know without a plan...RT @mathfour: Do you want to be professional or hel kids learn? #mathchat help
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:58:39 +0000 - tweet id 131112874201452544 - #121
@mrprcollins @kirstenchilds definitely - i've found myself leaving part of my 'planned lesson' out due to building on a particular point/questn #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:58:41 +0000 - tweet id 131112880228671490 - #122
@ezka29 #mathchat direction important cause my students know how passionate I am and often take advantage to distract the lesson!!
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:58:48 +0000 - tweet id 131112910352162816 - #123
@stefras @earlsamuelson I liked the article. Hi students. #mathchat

Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:59:11 +0000 - tweet id 131113005747412992 - #124
@mathfour @mrprcollins It does depend on the req of the school and the age group. I taught university level. Only did high school 6 months. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:59:13 +0000 - tweet id 131113013825638400 - #125
@ColinTGraham Oh, and how do we find that out! RT @mbteach: true. Sometimes what we planned is not what they learned. @missradders @cybraryman1 #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:59:32 +0000 - tweet id 131113096113696769 - #126
@mariposajanine #mathchat yes, student teachers plan, then learn to 'fly 'fly-by-the-seat-oftheir-pants' once in a while... RT @Co (cont) http://t.co/D1t84g4h pants'
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:59:43 +0000 - tweet id 131113141605117952 - #127
@edudemic RT @cybraryman1: A good teacher can adapt a plan on the fly to fit circumstances at that moment. It is a good idea to have a plan but be flexible #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:59:51 +0000 - tweet id 1 131113176153595905 - #128
@mrprcollins @ColinTGraham if it's requirement for trainees then shouldn't it be for all teachers? we're all doing the same job, just diff exp #mathchat e're
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:59:58 +0000 - tweet id 131113203810836480 - #129
@mathfour @mariposajanine No dichotomy - just wondering if you look down on great teacher that doesn't plan and is unprofessional #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:00:17 +0000 - tweet id 131113283511009281 - #130
@mathhombre @delta_dc talks about the difference between a plan and a script. about #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:00:32 +0000 - tweet id 131113346400387072 - #131
@ColinTGraham @mariposajanine Do you think learners always need learning intentions to be explicit for *every* lesson beforehand? #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:00:40 +0000 - tweet id 131113380823056384 - #132
@susandowning As a sub who has arrived to find no plans - please plan. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:00:49 +0000 - tweet id 131113419490336770 - #133
@mariposajanine #mathchat I have never met one. All the good teachers plan. RT @mathfour: @mariposajanine No dicho dichotomy - jus (cont) http://t.co/npQteKw8
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:00:52 +0000 - tweet id 131113432559779840 - #134
@mathfour @mariposajanine Do you need to know what the students will learn? If so, then you're making it about you. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:01:12 +0000 - tweet id 131113512712933376 - #135
@Biolady99 RT @cybraryman1: A good teacher can adapt a plan on the fly to fit circumstances at that moment. It is a good idea to have a plan but be flexible #mathchat cumstances
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:01:13 +0000 - tweet id 131113519251865600 - #136
@cybraryman1 We were required to hand in the next week's lesson plans to our supervisor each week #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:01:19 +0000 - tweet id 131113545189437440 - #138
@mariposajanine #mathchat Why can't a good teacher plan and want the students to learn? RT @mathfour: No dichotomy - just wond (cont) http://t.co/n6i7PIYp
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:01:36 +0000 - tweet id 131113614508691457 - #139
@mathhombre Eisenhower: In preparing for battle I have always fo found that plans are useless, but planning is indispensable. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:01:48 +0000 - tweet id 131113663665938432 - #140
@SofARMaths @republicofmath #mathchat Chaos can be planned and arguably should be...
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:01:49 +0000 - tweet id 131113668455825408 - #141
@mathfour @ezka29 Now that's a great reason to plan - to not get too sidetracked. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:01:52 +0000 - tweet id 131113680376045569 - #142
@mrprcollins @ColinTGraham you don't always know what is going to be learnt in a lesson!?students take the lrning diff places during the lesson #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:01:54 +0000 - tweet id 131113689200865281 - #143
@harrisonalg Preservice tchrs may lack experience, application, knowledge to have experience, spontaneous detours & return 2 obj. Plans of greater imp then #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:02:10 +0000 - tweet id 131113758973112320 - #144
@mrprcollins RT @RealCBD what do you mean by this? Isn't that more stressful?Flexible planning lets uplan the right resources for the lesson?? #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:02:27 +0000 - tweet id 131113827810021376 - #145
@missradders @ColinTGraham @mbteach @cybraryman1 Prof judgemt? Team wk, prob solving, perseverance are more imp to me than content sometimes #mathcha #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:02:36 +0000 - tweet id 131113866976436224 - #146
@mathhombre finding accessible problems, thinking of scaffolding, preparing materials hard to do without planning #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:02:41 +0000 - tweet id 131113887910207488 - #147
@republicofmath But not so explicitly & in such detail for experienced teachers @mariposajanine All the good teachers plan #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:02:45 +0000 - tweet id 131113905752784896 - #148
@mathfour That's a good distinction. RT @mathhombre: @delta_dc talks about the difference between a plan and a script. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:02:51 +0000 - tweet id 131113928687230977 - #149
@ColinTGraham @mrprcollins That is a very good question... I think a lot of the detail of planning is dependent on experience too "phronesis" #mathchat too,
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:03:02 +0000 - tweet id 131113977320194048 - #150
@mariposajanine #mathchat the teacher must have a sense of where each students is heading in their learning, and plan experien (cont) http://t.co/9dsbYU21
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:03:06 +0000 - tweet id 131113992293859328 - #151
@stefras @ColinTGraham Canada also has a QTS #mathchat

Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:03:38 +0000 - tweet id 131114127501430784 - #152
@ezka29 #mathchat I think too important to have permission to throw out the plan in favor of immediate needs, even if just permission from self ,
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:03:38 +0000 - tweet id 131114125332979712 - #153
@mariposajanine Exactly! RT @republicofmath: But not so explicitly & in such detail for tly! experienced teachers All the good teachers plan #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:03:41 +0000 - tweet id 131114139409059 131114139409059840 - #154
@mathfour @mariposajanine So if you don't plan, you're not a good teacher? teacher?#mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:03:42 +0000 - tweet id 131114141598494721 - #155
@mrprcollins RT @mathhombre: finding accessible problems, thinking of scaffolding, T preparing materials - hard to do without planning #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:03:48 +0000 - tweet id 131114168643 131114168643366912 - #156
@ColinTGraham I know, just wasn't sure about Mexico, Shawn... ; RT @stefras: ;-) @ColinTGraham Canada also has a QTS #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:04:36 +0000 - tweet id 131114370448105472 - #157
@mathhombre @mathfour if you don't plan are you not a good problem solver? #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:04:36 +0000 - tweet id 131114368648749057 - #158
@mariposajanine #mathchat No, I don't think you are a good teacher if you do not plan. RT @mathfour: So if you don't plan, you're not a good teacher?
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:04:39 +0000 - tweet id 131114384847147008 - #159
@MathCurmudgeon @mathfour @mariposajanine #mathchat I don't see those two things as necessarily going together. I look down on the unprofession unprofessional.
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:04:42 +0000 - tweet id 131114396012388352 - #160
@mrprcollins @ColinTGraham crikey...what's 'phronesi 'phronesis'?! #mathchat I agree the level of detail of planning is dependent on experience
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:05:08 +0000 - tweet id 131114504141549570 - #161
@DrJStockton @mathfour @mathhombre @delta_dc my best "lesson plans" are those that have built in room for spontaneous adjustment/response #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:05:17 +0000 - tweet id 131114541823176705 - #162
@ColinTGraham @cybraryman1 Or is it more that good teachers are defined by their willingness/ability to change plans "on the fly", Jerry? #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:05:28 +0000 - tweet id 131114589466271744 - #163
@mathfour @mathhombre Too many negatives - please rephrase question.#lowpressurebraininairplane #mathchat #lowpressurebraininairplane
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:06:03 +0000 - tweet id 131114733960048641 - #165
@stefras @ColinTGraham The extend to which we plan and teach spontaneously depends on the topic and students. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:06:16 +0000 - tweet id 131114791552040961 - #166
@mathhombre literacy teachers talk about structure, within which students have freedom. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:06:29 +0000 - tweet id 131114843523645440 - #167
@ColinTGraham @mrprcollins You missed the post #mathchat discus postdiscussion about phronesis last week! It basically translates as "practical wisdom", not theory!
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:06:36 +0000 - tweet id 131114872648900608 - #168
@mathhombre I agree typical math plan has everyone doing same thing at same time usually inappropriate #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:06:46 +0000 - tweet id 131114917330825216 - #169
@mathfour @mariposajanine Good to know. #mathchat

Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:06:48 +0000 - tweet id 131114923051851776 - #170
@stefras @ColinTGraham There is no overarching ratio of spontaneity and planning. you There must go with the students' flow. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:06:59 +0000 - tweet id 131114970392952832 - #171
@MathCurmudgeon @mariposajanine @mathfour #mathchat "Did not pl plan" in my building can mean you didn't write a minute by minute, three page daily plan.
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:07:07 +0000 - tweet id 131115001460174849 - #172
@ezka29 @ColinTGraham @cybraryman1 will have to ponder that one more I think there moreis some merit to that statement #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:07:10 +0000 - tweet id 131115017935392768 - #173
@ColinTGraham @stefras And the extent to which the individual teacher is comfortab comfortable with the topic too...? #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:07:30 +0000 - tweet id 131115100412190720 - #174
@mathhombre @stefras and style of teacher. Not every musician is a jazz player, doesn't mean classical players can't be good #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:07:42 +0000 - tweet id 131115150756429825 - #175
@ezka29 #mathchat @DrJStockton @mathfour @mathhombre @delta_dc I like those sort of plans too, capacity to move and direction to teach.
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:07:52 +0000 - tweet id 131115192858841088 - #176
@mathfour @stefras @ColinTGraham Indeed - if I teach Cal II, I need to do a little prep but plan? I'll make a list of problems to demo. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:08:06 +0000 - tweet id 131115251809783808 - #177
@stefras @ColinTGraham Yes, I keep forgetting the teacher. I suppose one has to be there too. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:08:07 +0000 - tweet id 131115256217997312 - #178
@cybraryman1 We all should be able to adapt to the situation and changes that are taking place. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:08:11 +0000 - tweet id 131115272332509184 - #179
@mariposajanine #mathchat when I plan, I start with an overall plan for the year, topic by topic. Then i break it down into weeks....(1/2)
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:08:14 +0000 - tweet id 131115285 131115285473275904 - #180
@mathhombre @mathfour trying to parallel planning for teaching with planning in problem solving #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:08:25 +0000 - tweet id 131115332139102209 - #181
@mathhombre since teaching is problem solving... #mathchat

Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:08:42 +0000 - tweet id 131115401974251520 - #182
@kirstenchilds if you dont want to plan become a professor... #mathchat

Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:08:50 +0000 - tweet id 131115434278789120 - #183
@ColinTGraham @mrprcollins @MathCurmudgeon I remember having to 'plan' 50 50minute lessons to the nearest 5 minutes during teaching practice... #mathchat e
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:08:54 +0000 - tweet id 131115454298210304 - #184
@RealCBD RT @mrprcollins: finding accessible problems, thinking of scaffolding, preparing materials - hard to do without planning #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:08:58 +0000 - tweet id 131115470362378240 - #185
@mariposajanine #mathchat then I look at the maths i need to know , and the needs of the students and plan week by week. I have state curric requirements
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:09:00 +0000 - tweet id 131115479073964032 - #186
@mathfour Lesson plans allow mediocre teachers to believe they are doing their jobs correctly. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:09:23 +0000 - tweet id 131115573844246528 - #187
@delta_dc #mathchat I like Fosnot's landscapes of learning. They represent a blueprint (plan) but allow for exploration.
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:09:58 +0000 - tweet id 131115721693470723 - #188
@ColinTGraham '...how long does it take to achieve this 'practical wisdom'? @mrprcollins Well, I buy in to the 10000 hours theory of 'talent'... #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:10:24 +0000 - tweet id 131115828245577730 - #189
@mariposajanine #mathchat mediocrity is the problem, not the plan RT @mathfour: Lesson plans allow mediocre teachers to belie (cont) http://t.co/S9HOfmtC
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:10:25 +0000 - tweet id 131115834897743874 - #190
@stefras @ColinTGraham @missradders If we walk in without a plan but with goals or outcomes in mind, we can still assess learning. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:10:44 +0000 - tweet id 131115912647544832 - #191
@mathfour @mathhombre You can't really plan to solve a problem, you just rock with it. problem, #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:11:09 +0000 - tweet id 131116019052838913 - #192
@delta_dc Does that require planning? >> RT @cybraryman1: We all should be able to adapt to the situation and changes that are taking place. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:11:12 +0000 - tweet id 131116029526020096 - #193
@ColinTGraham @stefras @missradders But aren't "goals or outcomes" a plan to Just too? more generalized or less specific? What is 'a plan'? #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:11:38 +0000 - tweet id 131116142193418240 - #195
@mathfour ABSOLUTELY RT @stefras: @ColinTGraham There is no overarching ratio of spontaneity and planning. you must go with the students flo #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:11:49 +0000 - tweet id 131116184975314948 - #196
@delta_dc Yes! >> RT @mathhombre: since teaching is problem solving... #mathchat

Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:12:03 +0000 - tweet id 131116244786102272 - #197
@mrprcollins @ColinTGraham that's me atm!We have 50min lessons too! #mathchat I'm finding it useful atm though, not too bogged down with it all either?!
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:12:03 +0000 - tweet id 131116243292913666 - #198
@mathfour @mathhombre You can't plan to solve a problem, it just happens. Like learning. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:12:21 +0000 - tweet id 131116320229048322 - #199
@mathfour You know, we're looking a lot on teaching instead of on learning. Aga Again, making it about us. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:12:42 +0000 - tweet id 131116407982260225 - #201
@mariposajanine #mathchat goals, outcomes, learning intentions, curriculum requirements, intended resources, teacher content knowledge - all planning
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:12:44 +0000 - tweet id 131116415989202945 - #202
@moozartt RT @republicofmath: Plan early, plan often, plan deeply, on paper or in your early, head. Then plan to be as spontaneous as you can #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:12:48 +0000 - tweet id 131116435278798849 - #203
@mrprcollins @mathfour Woa! you're putting it out there Bon! : #mathchat :-P
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:12:51 +0000 - tweet id 131116448184680451 - #204
@stefras @ColinTGraham That is the question then. Everyone is talking about spontaneity, but what is a plan? (1/2) #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:13:01 +0000 - tweet id 131116487690821632 - #205
@ColinTGraham @harrisonalg Where do teachers 'learn' the art/magic of being able to monitor 'allowing' more spontaneity? #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:13:08 +0000 - tweet id 131116516803477504 - #206
@stefras @ColinTGraham Do you ever enter a class with no idea about what the class linTGraham you are teaching is going to be about? (2/2) #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:13:35 +0000 - tweet id 131116631140204 131116631140204544 - #207
@mrprcollins @ColinTGraham is that 10000 hours of lessons or 10000 hours spent 'working'/ studying 'teaching' - if you can study it?! #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:14:25 +0000 - tweet id 131116841287417858 - #208
@ColinTGraham Which maybe translates as degree of detail, John? RT @mathhombre: @delta_dc talks about the difference between a plan & a script. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:14:26 +0000 - tweet id 131116844894519296 - #209
@mathfour @mariposajanine I write training modules for O&G as my day job. Training training you plan, learning you don't. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:14:36 +0000 - tweet id 131116888141987840 - #210
@mbteach @ColinTGraham @missradders @cybraryman1 I like to ask my students to share something they learned at end of lesson. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:15:20 +0000 - tweet id 131117069881192449 - #211
@mathfour @mariposajanine What would happen if we refused to let teachers "plan" lessons. Could they inspire learning still? #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:15:22 +0000 - tweet id 1311170808660 131117080866062337 - #212
@mathfour @ColinTGraham @harrisonalg Tha a talent/gift - quadruple teachers' pay That's and you'll lure that talent in. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:16:05 +0000 - tweet id 131117260717834242 - #214
@ColinTGraham @mrprcollins I'd say 10000 hours of actual teaching, with deep practice, training, coaching... etc. So maybe 10 years or so... #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:16:12 +0000 - tweet id 131117288417009665 - #215
@mathfour @ColinTGraham @harrisonalg Or keep the talent that's already there. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:16:22 +0000 - tweet id 131117329600884737 - #216
@mathhombre @mathfour planning is a huuuuge part of effective problem solving!#mathchat

Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:16:29 +0000 - tweet id 131117361842495488 - #217
@harrisonalg I think this comes down to having "big ideas" in mind, then gauging current status of sts & class, then chosing path 2 destination #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:16:37 +0000 - tweet id 131117392259584000 - #218
@cybraryman1 @mathfour Best lesson plans are those that are changed after lesson was taught and what worked is highlighted for future use. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:16:38 +0000 - tweet id 131117399603810304 - #219
@mathhombre @ColinTGraham detail and flexibility, as you were saying #mathchat

Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:16:55 +0000 - tweet id 131117470160388096 - #220
@delta_dc @ColinTGraham @mathhombre For me it's degree of implementation. The more I have planned the more comfortable I am improvising. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:17:03 +0000 - tweet id 131117501563154432 - #221
@ColinTGraham @cybraryman1 Teacher training requirements are usually designed to account for the 'lack' of experience though, Jerry... #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:17:27 +0000 - tweet id 131117602905923584 - #222
@ColinTGraham To be more exact! Sheesh... ; RT @missradders: @ColinTGraham ;-P missradders: @mrprcollins 12.8 years then. About 3 years to go to perfection ;) #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:18:16 +0000 - tweet id 131117808733003776 - #223
@mathfour @mathhombre Really? I don't plan problem solving. I dig in and get my hands dirty. Experiment and see what happens. No plan. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:18:22 +0000 - tweet id 131117835345866753 - #224
@mariposajanine #mathchat accountability has increased the need for planning to be available for school administration and parents to see.
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:18:55 +0000 - tweet id 131117971862061057 - #225
@republicofmath Not so - Grothendieck planned to solve many math problems, as do most mathematicians @mathfour You can't plan to solve a problem #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:19:04 +0000 - tweet id 131118011485650944 - #226
@mathhombre @mathfour deciding what to experiment, what to follow up on, that's planning to me. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:19:43 +0000 - tweet id 131118174233042944 - #228
@CoolR1a RT @republicofmath: Not so - Grothendieck planned to solve m many math problems, as do most mathematicians @mathfour You can't plan to solve a problem problem#mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:19:43 +0000 - tweet id 131118173108977664 - #229
@mariposajanine #mathchat Andrew wiles planned to solve fermat's last theorem at the age of ten
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:19:50 +0000 - tweet id 131118205677731843 - #230
@muffleyq @mrprcollins #mathchat. Absolutely they know. Teachers who plan well plan . engagingly. See #Vagle and #chapman book. #authorspeak
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:19:50 +0000 - tweet id 131118203492507650 - #231
@ColinTGraham @delta_dc @mathhombre What do you 'plan' exactly, Dave? Isn't it more about "what if students..." ie follow digressions, for you? #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:19:55 +0000 - tweet id 131118226078842880 - #232
@cybraryman1 @mbteach nice idea once in a while is to have students plan lessons. That is when they really appreciate how hard it is to teach #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:19:58 +0000 - tweet id 131118237885796352 - #233
@mathfour @republicofmath Again, what do you mean by planning? I've never proven anything with a plan - it's all just weird random thinkage. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:20:02 +0000 - tweet id 131118253207592964 - #234
@harrisonalg @ColinTGraham Art/magic is developed from experience & TONS of observation & reflection. Good practitioners constantly reflect #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:20:07 +0000 - tweet id 131118276012019712 - #235
@missradders @mathfour @mathhombre Sometimes tackling a problem at same time as pupils reduces anxiety. They like the fact you don't know #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:20:25 +0000 - tweet id 131118 131118350519648256 - #236
@stefras @susandowning Planning for subs is different though. I have taught with and without a plan supplied. Harder without; no context. #mathchat ied.
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:20:36 +0000 - tweet id 131118396027834369 - #237
@mathfour @mariposajanine And that's a big bummer. Alas, that's what teachers are kinda stuck with, huh? #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:20:37 +0000 - tweet id 131118400712876032 - #238
@mariposajanine #mathchat it is good for the teacher to have a sense of possible misconceptions and think (plan) ways to solve them if they arise
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:20:56 +0000 - tweet id 131118480144596992 - #239
@mrprcollins @muffleyq thanks for this recommendation - will look up the book! I definitely agree it's all about planning engaging lessons! #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:21:14 +0000 - tweet id 131118556694851584 - #240
@mathhombre @missradders I like that a lot. We're all in this together. If you think aloud, that can be a real demonstration #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:21:16 +0000 - tweet id 131118562487173120 - #241
@kirstenchilds Exactly!! #ma #mathchat @delta_dc @ColinTGraham For me it's degree of implementation. The more I have planned the more comfortable I am improvis
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:21:17 +0000 - tweet id 131118567243517952 - #242
@daveinstpaul Yeah, I don't agree either. Solving a large math problem requires careful planning. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:21:41 +0000 - tweet id 131118668481429505 - #243
@mariposajanine I don't think it is a bad thing. RT @mathfour: And that's a big bummer. @mathfour: Alas, that's what teachers are kinda stuck with, huh? #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:21:47 +0000 - tweet id 131118694519681024 - #244
@mathfour @missradders @mathhombre That's my best teaching tactic - look, if I'm this moronic doing it, surely you can do it too! #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:21:55 +0000 - tweet id 131118727075864579 - #245
@kirstenchilds #mathchat As a student when teachers didn't know we just wrote them off @missradders
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:21:58 +0000 - tweet id 131118742691254272 - #246
@stefras @mathfour You do need to know what the students need to learn, otherwise you will progress proximally but not progress ove overall. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:22:12 +0000 - tweet id 131118800962715649 - #247
@ColinTGraham @harrisonalg My point too, Matt. Quantity of teaching practice & reflection/observation on it allows more spontaneity #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:22:15 +0000 - tweet id 131118813193306112 - #248
@delta_dc @ColinTGraham I think about how I can foster the conditi conditions of learning around whatever topic we are addressing. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:22:25 +0000 - tweet id 131118853194399745 - #249
@republicofmath Thank you. Most mathematicians plan, & adjust @mariposajanine #mathchat Andrew wiles planned to solve Fermat's last theorem at age of 10 lanned
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:22:40 +0000 - tweet id 131118917212053505 - #250
@mathfour @mariposajanine I would call that "anticipating questions" - which is indeed a kind of planning. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:22:48 +0000 - tweet id 131118948484788224 - #251
@ColinTGraham @delta_dc Do you think your role as a trainer of mathematics teachers is different from being a mathematics teache at all? #mathchat teacher
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:23:13 +0000 - tweet id 131119053250101248 - #252
@mathhombre @ColinTGraham In practice, I see more novice teachers improvise than experienced #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:23:15 +0000 - tweet id 13 131119063228358656 - #253
@stefras @mathhombre I think Eisenhower discovered that plans set the mood and prep the teacher, but in themselves can be ignored. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:23:26 +0000 - tweet id 131119108073857024 - #254
@mrprcollins for those teachers that don't plan...what do you do when being officially observed, eg by OFSTED? Do you plan that lesson? #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:23:33 +0000 - tweet id 131119138004414464 - #255
@mariposajanine # mathchat maths teaching has improved since accountability teaching measures were put in place RT @mathfour: And that (cont) http://t.co/xpbdI6dU
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:23:40 +0000 - tweet id 131119166634725377 - #256
@mathfour @kirstenchilds @delta_dc @ColinTGraham That's a good tactic too - plan so that you don't have to stick with it if you don't want. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:23:41 +0000 - tweet id 131119174448726017 - #257
@missradders @kirstenchilds Not having done the prob is diff to not being able to do it. You have to be confident you can do it! #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:23:46 +0000 - tweet id 131119195193745408 - #258
@mathfour RT @stefras: @mathhombre Eisenhower discovered that plans set the mood and prep the teacher, but in themselves can be ignored. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:24:14 +0000 - tweet id 131119309534662657 - #259
@ColinTGraham @mathhombre Why do you think improvisation happens John? Is it lack of subject knowledge, lack of planning or down to experience? #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:24:29 +0000 - tweet id 131119372021415937 - #260
@mathhombre the work that goes into planning, assessment and evaluation and exploration of content, is invaluable. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:24:37 +0000 - tweet id 131119409392652290 - #261
@mathhombre Even just selecting a starting point then can be successful. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:24:56 +0000 - tweet id 131119489025703937 - #262
@mrprcollins RT @mathhombre: the work that goes into planning, assessment and hhombre: evaluation and exploration of content, is invaluable. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:25:03 +0000 - tweet id 131119515571462145 - #263
@harrisonalg @ColinTGraham Spontaneity doesn't come easily. And it is easy to fall into pattern of planning every step/response/assg. #mathchat /response/assg.
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:25:09 +0000 - tweet id 131119543803322370 - #264
@muffleyq @mrprcollins #mathchat. Are you advocating dog and pony shows? I think . not! I would know the difference
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:25:11 +0000 - tweet id 131119549184618497 - #265
@delta_dc #mathchat Another problem I have with "scripts" is that they tend to focus more on entertaining than education.
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:25:24 +0000 - tweet id 131119605807710209 - #266
@mathfour Good ? (and one for @mathhombre) RT @ColinTGraham Is your role as a trainer of math teachers is diff from a math teacher at all? #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:25:25 +0000 - tweet id 131119607812603904 - #267
@republicofmath Been both. Some differences @ColinTGraham Do you think role as differences trainer of math teachers is different from being math teacher? #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:25:34 +0000 - tweet id 131119647348105216 - #268
@cybraryman1 The mathematician worked at home because he only functioned in his domain #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:25:35 +0000 - tweet id 131119651223638019 - #269
@mathhombre @ColinTGraham willingness to give it a go, lack of fear, lack of contentment with how it's been, maybe even just energy level. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:25:41 +0000 - tweet id 1311 131119674640445440 - #270
@ColinTGraham @mariposajanine How much does the teacher's sense of where students are require some kind of change to an 'admin' function though? #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:25:41 +0000 - tweet id 131119674380390401 - #271
@davidwees RT @delta_dc: #mathchat Another problem I have with "scripts" is that they tend to focus more on entertaining than education. ning
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:25:52 +0000 - tweet id 131119723147567104 - #272
@iEARNUSA RT @cybraryman1: The mathematician worked at home because he only mathematician functioned in his domain #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:26:08 +0000 - tweet id 131119787685314560 - #273
@mariposajanine #mathchat once plan is written, it exists - is never totally ignored. Like writing shopping list, then leaving at home. Planning it helps riting
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:26:29 +0000 - tweet id 131119879326679041 - #274
@mathhombre what's nice teaching math teachers is that a math lesson can go meta. Then you find that's good w 'just' content, too #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:26:37 +0000 - tweet id 131119911618617344 - #275
@mathfour And that's what we do when TRAINING not TEACHING! RT @mathhombre: Planning, assessment, evaluation, etc. is invaluable. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:26:57 +0000 - tweet id 131119994871357442 - #277
@ColinTGraham @harrisonalg I thought you might say: "Spontaneity doesn't just might happen!" Being spontaneous requires a good deal of self self-confidence #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:27:02 +0000 - tweet id 131120015838691329 - #278
@mariposajanine #mathchat You can always go further than the curriculum,. but a curriculum is needed - not every teacher is ca (cont) http://t.co/qPGUMm2S
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:27:29 +0000 - tweet id 131120130473209858 - #279
@delta_dc @ColinTGraham I tend to think of it as @mathhombre said - that teaching is problem solving. Also my focus when I reach math. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:27:33 +0000 - tweet id 131120145170051073 - #280
@mrprcollins @muffleyq not advocating them no, just aware that this does happen! #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:27:35 +0000 - tweet id 131120155852939264 - #281
@republicofmath What does this mean? @cybraryman1 The mathematician worked at home because he only functioned in his domain #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:27:44 +0000 - tweet id 131120192565690368 - #282
@republicofmath Mathematicians can be teachers - most are @cybraryman1 #mathchat

Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:28:37 +0000 - tweet id 131120413559365632 - #283
@ColinTGraham @mathfour @mathhombre @republicofmath@delta_dc It may be important to separate "teaching teaching" from "teaching mathematics"... #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:28:37 +0000 - tweet id 131120412833759233 - #284
@mathfour @mrprcollins RE: planning while being observed - nope. I roll with it the way it is. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:29:11 +0000 - tweet id 131120558841671680 - #285
@earlsamuelson RT @mathhombre: the work that goes into planning, assessment and evaluation and exploration of content, is invalu invaluable. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:29:19 +0000 - tweet id 131120591691448321 - #286
@mariposajanine #mathchat teaching teaching and teaching teaching for mathematics can be different too. There are some special skills to teaching maths
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:29:28 +0000 - tweet id 131120628160937984 - #287
@stefras @mariposajanine But wait. A plan can be as simple as having an idea about simple what you are going to teach. Yet tutors often don't plan #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:29:41 +0000 - tweet id 131120681650884608 - #288
@sguditus @republicofmath @cybraryman1 Are the best math teachers those that are teachers of math or mathematicians that teach? #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:29:43 +0000 - tweet id 131120689422925825 - #289
@mrprcollins RT @Bob_the_teach: @mrprcollins teachers that don't plan are only doing half the job!!! If that... #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:29:53 +0000 - tweet id 13112073399 131120733991612418 - #290
@ColinTGraham @DrJStockton @mathfour @mathhombre @delta_dc What is it that makes you judge those plans as the 'best'... execution/satisfaction? #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:30:03 +0000 - tweet id 131120773791363074 - #291
@delta_dc @ColinTGraham Not sure how to do that : #mathchat :-)

Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:30:12 +0000 - tweet id 131120812488015872 - #292
@republicofmath @ColinTGraham Not so much - when I was teaching the teaching of math, I was also teaching math #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:30:14 +0000 - tweet id 131120822822768642 - #293
@mathfour And do understand, I usually have a select set of problems to demo during the class that come directly from the problem set. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:30:16 +0000 - tweet id 131120829927923713 - #294
@muffleyq #mathchat how will you know if you get there if you do not plan where you are going? Like taking vacation without agenda. Lucky if it works
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:30:32 +0000 - tweet id 131120898177642498 - #295
@mariposajanine #mathchat So you do plan. I thought you walked in and got going without one. RT @mathfour: And do understand (cont) http://t.co/uFQ3yrW1 T
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:30:55 +0000 - tweet id 131120992587227137 - #296
@republicofmath @cybraryman1 Sorry Jerry - I missed the joke! #mathchat

Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:31:05 +0000 - tweet id 1311210363925422 - #297 131121036392542210
@stefras @mrprcollins Phorensis = topical wisdom, knowing a topic or discipline so well that it is approximately second nature. #mathchat cond
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:31:11 +0000 - tweet id 131121060513972225 - #298
@ColinTGraham @delta_dc @republicofmath I ask because,during my initial training, we were warned most of our time would be classroom management #mathchat athchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:31:34 +0000 - tweet id 131121156404150272 - #299
@republicofmath Yes @sguditus Are the best math teachers those that are teachers of math or mathematicians that teach? #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:31:39 +0000 - tweet id 131121176960434176 - #300
@mathhombre @mathfour the thought that goes into intentional problem selection and which to use when is planning to me #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:31:43 +0000 - tweet id 131121196216483840 - #301
@mathfour #ARG! I just got so mad during #mathchat that I clicked "sign off" instead of ! "send tweet" #ARG
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:32:04 +0000 - tweet id 131121283550289920 - #303
@mrprcollins much obliged -> @stefras Phorensis = topical wisdom, knowing a topic or discipline so well that it is approximately second nature. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:32:13 +0000 - tweet id 131121318136528896 - #304
@muffleyq @sguditus #mathchat Theory is one thing. Teaching it to others a skill and gift #mathchat.
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:32:29 +0000 - tweet id 131121388550500354 - #305
@delta_dc @stefras @mrprcollins Hey, when did we start talking about #phronesis ? as #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:32:30 +0000 - tweet id 131121391729770496 - #306
@mathhombre If mathematicians teach like how math is presented formally, it hasn't been too effective. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:32:38 +0000 - tweet id 131121424554405888 - #307
@ColinTGraham Teaching people to manage classroom behaviour (of teens) is not the same as teaching people to teach mathematics...! ; #mathchat ;-)
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:32:46 +0000 - tweet id 131121456963780608 - #308
@mathhombre When mathematicians share how they think ... whoa! #mathchat whoa!
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:32:54 +0000 - tweet id 131121492187561984 - #309
@stefras @delta_dc I think it was shortly after last #mathchat with you. #phronesis #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:33:12 +0000 - tweet id 131121565621428226 - #310
@mrprcollins @delta_dc it came up earlier and I didn't have a clue what it was - all cleared up now though! thanks #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:33:14 +0000 - tweet id 131121576082026497 - #311
@mariposajanine #mathchat it sure is not! RT @ColinTGraham: Teaching people to manage classroom behaviour (of teens) is not th (cont) http://t.co/i1hKjcUD
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:33:17 +0000 - tweet id 131121587591188480 - #312
@mathfour @mathhombre Well, maybe I do a little planning. *hrumph* #mathchat

Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:33:33 +0000 - tweet id 131121657568956416 - #313
@republicofmath @mathfour Wa Watch that air rage - they might sedate & restrain you! #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:33:48 +0000 - tweet id 131121717643976704 - #314
@DrJStockton @ColinTGraham@mathfour@mathhombre@delta_dc I think part of how I judge quality is level of responsiveness to S questions/interests #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:33:50 +0000 - tweet id 131121725265031169 - #315
@sguditus @muffleyq @republicofmath Agreed - it is an art and science to teach especially math. Teaching needs to come first - then math. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:33:52 +0000 - tweet id 131121735675293696 - #316
@mariposajanine Gotcha! RT @mathfour: @mathhombre Well, maybe I do a little planning. *hrumph* #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:33:53 +0000 - tweet id 131121738552582144 - #317
@mathhombre @ColinTGraham why not? Classroom mgmt is just a bigger problem to solve, and part of solution is good math teaching #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:34:06 +0000 - tweet id 131121792155787264 - #318
@sdisbury @ColinTGraham What's more satisfying? Teaching teenagers or teaching maths? #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:34:12 +0000 - tweet id 131121820018548737 - #319
@rosenbergerd RT @republicofmath: What does this mean? @cybraryman1 The mathematician worked at home because he only functioned in his domain #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:34:20 +0000 - tweet id 131121852805431297 - #320
@muffleyq #mathchat. @ColinTGraham Amen .

Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:34:22 +0000 - tweet id 131121860397113344 - #321
@stefras @mariposajanine It also means, as @ColinTGraham pointed out, practical (vs theoretical) wisdom #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:34:23 +0000 - tweet id 131121866457886721 - #322
@mariposajanine #mathchat The more confident I am about the maths, the better my out classroom management. RT @mathhombre: @ColinT (cont) http://t.co/KOngkfZ8
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:34:50 +0000 - tweet id 131121978714226694 - #323
@mrprcollins RT @mariposajanine: Gotcha! RT @mathfour: @mathhombre Well, maybe I do a little planning. *hrumph* #mathchat <--a lil' private battle here!?
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:34:55 +0000 - tweet id 131121998247108609 - #324
@delta_dc @ColinTGraham @republicofmath Classroom management huge concern of new teachers but we've found setting learning conditions helps #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:34:55 +0000 - tweet id 131121997924151296 - #325
@mathhombre RT @mariposajanine: The more confident I am about the maths, the better my classroom management. http://t.co/cGH06nTF #mathchat tter
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:35:30 +0000 - tweet id 131122145425235968 - #326
@ColinTGraham Both! But how many plans focus too much on the latter? RT @sdisbury: What's more satisfying? Teaching teenagers or t teaching maths?#mathchat #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:35:32 +0000 - tweet id 131122154388467712 - #327
@republicofmath It is if you plan it @ColinTGraham Teaching people to manage classroom behaviour is not same as teaching people to teach math #mathchat thchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:35:46 +0000 - tweet id 131122213746257920 - #328
@mathhombre students about done with their #sbar (which took planning) - time to go! #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:36:40 +0000 - tweet id 131122439433371650 - #329
@ColinTGraham RT @mathfour: Lack of managing the classroom was the downfall of my time teaching high school. Was too used to college classes. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:36:41 +0000 - tweet id 131122445255049216 - #330
@cybraryman1 @delta_dc Having students invoved in setting the learning conditions is helpful #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:36:59 +0000 - tweet id 131122521272623104 - #331
@Biolady99 RT @republicofmath: It is if you plan it @ColinTGraham Teaching people to manage classroom behaviour is not same as teaching people to teach math #mathchat assroom
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:37:01 +0000 - tweet id 131122527316619265 - #332
@delta_dc @DrJStockton Awareness of situation along with available choices is what we strive for. #phronesis How do we plan for this? #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:37:02 +0000 - tweet id 131122532731457541 - #333
@muffleyq #mathchat @mathhombre good teaching is about the engagement of students to improve learning and that is in an content area any
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:37:08 +0000 - tweet id 131122559541456896 - #334
@ColinTGraham @mathfour College is close to high school... but ... not close enough! Those two or three years make a BIG difference! #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:37:41 +0000 - tweet id 131122694082150401 - #335
@mathfour @mrprcollins I like to call it a #mathfight. ;-) @mariposajanine #mathchat osajanine

Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:38:05 +0000 - tweet id 131122796402180096 - #336
@sguditus @muffleyq @mathhombre Does teaching math require an additional level of engagement? Or of hooking the student into the lesson? #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:38:07 +0000 - tweet id 131122804069367809 - #337
@mariposajanine #mathchat engagement is ore likely when students have a hand in the learning intentions/outcomes. it needs to be explicit to them
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:38:14 +0000 - tweet id 131122832536113152 - #338
@republicofmath When a math teacher engages students deeply in content, classroom management issues are minimal, in my experience #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:38:28 +0000 - tweet id 131122891302506498 - #339
@harrisonalg How does managing a CR of teens change when the "plan" is perceived ad spontaneous & appears unplanned? Spontenaeity is engaging. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:38:51 +0000 - tweet id 131122988002197505 - #340
@mariposajanine #mathchat me too RT @republicofmath: When a math teacher engages students deeply in content, classroom managem (cont) http://t.co/ISKLkAtT
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:38:55 +0000 - tweet id 131123004523560961 - #341
@hakmem RT @republicofmath: When a math teacher engages students deeply in content, classroom management issues are mi minimal, in my experience #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:38:58 +0000 - tweet id 131123018771599362 - #342
@Biolady99 RT @republicofmath: When a math teacher engages students deeply in content, classroom management issues are minimal, in my experience #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:39:08 +0000 - tweet id 131123060823703554 - #343
@ColinTGraham Let's revisit... RT @stefras: @ColinTGraham That's the question then. @stefras: Everyone is talking about spontaneity, but what is a plan? #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:39:12 +0000 - tweet id 131123078917926913 - #344
@mariposajanine :) RT @mathfour: @mrprcollins I like to call it a #mathfight. ;-) @mariposajanine #mathchat

Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:39:15 +0000 - tweet id 131123088359297025 - #345
@stefras @mathfour We can not control learning; that is the students' job. We can set it up, guide and push it, but that is teaching. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:39:21 +0000 - tweet id 131123115987173377 - #346
@mathfour @sguditus @muffleyq @mathhombre It SHOULD be about following their @muffleyq curiosity. But because of the system, I think it's more hooking #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:39:28 +0000 - tweet id 13112314602 131123146022584321 - #347
@republicofmath But to get deep engagement I generally have to plan - and be spontaneous when it matters #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:39:39 +0000 - tweet id 131123190553522176 - #348
@cybraryman1 I also feel it is important to make lessons relevant. My Making Math Relevant page http://t.co/OqhQCchO #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:40:11 +0000 - tweet id 131123326012768258 - #349
@ColinTGraham What do you think of when you think about a plan? Lesson, term, year, exam goal... How much detail? Who for? etc. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:40:18 +0000 - tweet id 131123355368693760 - #350
@mathfour @ColinTGraham Good question - what IS a plan? (because I'm not convinced I plan - although it looks like I might) #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:40:19 +0000 - tweet id 131123358472478722 - #351
@delta_dc #mathchat Cambourne says learners engage when they find purpose, feel protected, & believe they have potential to succeed.
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:40:21 +0000 - tweet id 131 131123368442339328 - #352
@mariposajanine #mathchat planning and teacher confidence in knowing when to be ning flexible... how to cross a stream
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:40:29 +0000 - tweet id 131123399987691520 - #353
@muffleyq #mathchat @sguditus Math requires no more level of engagement than any other subject. Make it relevant and you have your hook
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:40:32 +0000 - tweet id 131123413896015872 - #354
@stefras @ColinTGraham My meaning here is that plans can be just knowing wha the what class is about. Spontaneity means having no idea. #sub #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:40:44 +0000 - tweet id 131 131123464772927488 - #355
@delta_dc RT @republicofmath: When a math teacher engages students deeply in content, classroom management issues are minimal, in my experience #mathchat ment
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:40:51 +0000 - tweet id 131123493218680832 - #356
@missradders @ColinTGraham @stefras Having thought through the knowledge and or skills you want pupils to master/ practice. And how to achieve #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:40:52 +0000 - tweet id 131123495848513538 - #357
@mrprcollins So, essentially, is the answer to today's topic finding what works for you? sentially, #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:40:59 +0000 - tweet id 131123527192551424 - #358
@mathfour @stefras I'm totally missing your tweets. Are you forgetting the hashtag or is @SouthwestAir $5 wifi missing you? #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:41:20 +0000 - tweet id 131123613393895425 - #359
@republicofmath Yes, they forget everything @ColinTGraham College close to HS but not close enough! Those 2 or 3 years make BIG difference! #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:41:29 +0000 - tweet id 1 131123651583033344 - #360
@mariposajanine how can we help colleagues achieve this - the ones who would never engage in #mathchat ?
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:41:45 +0000 - tweet id 131123721179111425 - #361
@stefras @missradders That is my definition. You can get more elaborate by detailing how you are going to teach. Ultimately, know topic. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:42:16 +0000 - tweet id 131123850611134465 - #362
@ColinTGraham I tend to think of long long-term, mid-term and short-term, as well as global, term, local and individual levels for plans... a 3x3 matrix... #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:42:20 +0000 - tweet id 131123865765154816 - #363
@missradders @missradders Varying levels of detail/ pre prepared resources dep on pre-prepared how you want that learning to develop. Diff lesson to lesson #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:42:26 +0000 - tweet id 131123889576230912 - #364
@mathfour @mrprcollins That might be the conclusion - kinda like people say "your higher power"... we can say "your plan". #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:42:29 +0000 - tweet id 131123905405521922 - #365
@suegwood RT @republicofmath: Plan early, plan often, plan deeply, on paper or in your head. Then plan to be as spontaneous as you can #mathchat en
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:43:02 +0000 - tweet id 131124042206949376 - #366
@mathfour @stefras So planning for you is knowing topic? #mathchat

Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:43:02 +0000 - tweet id 13112404 131124041644908544 - #367
@stefras @mathfour I am way behind, so very few tweets today. No I am using the#mathchat hashtag. It's there!!!
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:43:07 +0000 - tweet id 131124062968750080 - #368
@mariposajanine #mathchat I like the matrix RT @ColinTGraham: I tend to think of long longterm, mid-term and short-term, as wel (cont) http://t.co/8Psq0c0a term,
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:43:31 +0000 - tweet id 131124162650583041 - #369
@yolynne RT @cybraryman1: @mbteach nice idea once in a while is to have students aryman1: plan lessons. That is when they really appreciate how hard it is to teach #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:43:38 +0000 - tweet id 131124194044944386 - #370
@mathfour @mrprcollins @stefras Planning is as personal as spirituality. #mathchat

Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:43:48 +0000 - tweet id 131124234184429571 - #371
@ColinTGraham @stefras @mathfour He's too busy chopping up pumpkins for Pagan festivals... ;-P #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:43:52 +0000 - tweet id 131124252542906369 - #372
@stefras @mathfour As a sub, I don't get to plan (usually); I get a plan (usually), but I know students and topic enough to igno plan. #mathchat ignore
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:43:56 +0000 - tweet id 131124270804897793 - #373
@sguditus @muffleyq Authenticity goes a LONG way...in teaching any subject. subject.#mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:44:08 +0000 - tweet id 131124321048469505 - #374
@stefras :P RT @ColinTGraham: @stefras @mathfour He's too busy chopping up pumpkins for Pagan festivals... ;-P #mathchat P
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:44:35 +0000 - tweet id 131124431358668800 - #375
@ruth4916 RT @cybraryman1: The mathematician worked at home because he only functioned in his domain #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:44:45 +0000 - tweet id 1311244745767 131124474576777216 - #376
@mathfour @cybraryman1 @ColinTGraham Exactly why I couldn't teach high school. But man, were those teens fun to watch - SO creative! #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:45:30 +0000 - tweet id 131124661894389762 - #377
@stefras @mathfour I am really trying to define spontaneity. I don't think people using it have it right. I think even chaotic lessons plnd #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:45:49 +0000 - tweet id 131124742735400960 - #378
@ColinTGraham @mariposajanine We often forget to 'triangulate' content, forget teaching/learning and assessment too... not always part of 'the plan' #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:46:02 +0000 - tweet id 131124797798232064 - #379
@stefras @ColinTGraham And it is a fun and important Pagan festival, at least for the kids. I'm carving for the kids, folks! #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:46:53 +0000 - tweet id 131125010361360385 - #381
@SallyRobin #mathchat I've often had a plan but changed it on the short walk between maths office and classroom...
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:46:55 +0000 - tweet id 131125017898528768 - #382
@mariposajanine #mathchat should be part of 'the plan' ... RT @ColinTGraham: We often forget to 'triangulate' content, teaching/learning and assessment
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:46:56 +0000 - tweet id 131125021635649536 - #383
@mathfour @republicofmath you and @mathhombre making me nuts. You can't plan on the fly. That's contrary to the definition of planning! #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:47:14 +0000 - tweet id 131125097992945664 - #384
@mathfour @ColinTGraham It's a shame that you have to triangulate. Should all be learning. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:47:47 +0000 - tweet id 131125237306765312 - #385
@KazzaD1960 RT @cybraryman1: A good teacher can adapt a plan on the fly to fit circumstances at that moment. It is a good idea to have a plan but be flexible #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:47:52 +0000 - tweet id 131125258718679040 - #387
@ColinTGraham @mariposajanine "Should be part..." I wonder how much it is though... @mariposajanine that is where the experience comes in, maybe! #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:48:04 +0000 - tweet id 131125307901091840 - #388
@mathfour @SallyRobin So your plan was just to get the juices flowing? #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:48:10 +0000 - tweet id 131125335658991616 - #389
@mathfour @SallyRobin Tha not a bad way to go. #mathchat That's

Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:48:20 +0000 - tweet id 131125376729616385 - #390
@mariposajanine #mathchat short and sweet, just enough to have a direction RT @ColinTGraham: I wonder how much it is though.. (cont) http://t.co/0Ii2UhZ6
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:48:58 +0000 - tweet id 131125537233047552 - #391
@Iriestar77 RT @republicofmath: When a math teacher engages students deeply in @republicofmath: content, classroom management issues are minimal, in my experience #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:49:28 +0000 - tweet id 1311256608 131125660881129472 - #393
@ColinTGraham @mathfour Being pragmatic, the 'real world' needs some validity to be 'real-world' placed on the extent to which someone 'knows' something, Bon #mathchat hich
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:49:36 +0000 - tweet id 131125694632701952 - #394
@stefras @cybraryman1 The one problem with comparing teachers planning lessons and students doing it is that teacher SHOULD know topic. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:49:51 +0000 - tweet id 131125755932450816 - #395
@mrprcollins TY for the #mathchat today everyone - much appreciated, think I may print off the archive when done and put in my training folder!
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:50:50 +0000 - tweet id 131126007141892096 - #396
@mathfour @ColinTGraham That's only because politics got involved. Furthermore, we should be able to talk to someone to get that feel. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:50:56 +0000 - tweet id 131126028281200641 - #397
@ColinTGraham So, in the final 10 minutes... "To what extent should lessons be planned or spontaneous?" with the emphasis on the extent part! #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:51:06 +0000 - tweet id 131126073789386752 - #398
@mariposajanine it's great professional development for me too! RT @mrprcollins: TY for the #mathchat today everyone - much ap (cont) http://t.co/MScIUFgT
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:51:23 +0000 - tweet id 131126143729418240 - #399
@mathfour @mrprcollins Wow - is it already almost over? And I still have 1 h 23m left on this flight. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:51:39 +0000 - tweet id 131126212499214336 - #400
@mariposajanine #mathchat the more succinct the better, with review afterwards
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:51:53 +0000 - tweet id 131126270284152832 - #401
@ColinTGraham @mrprcollins Good for you, Paul! Just don't quote everything on #mathchat as being 'gospel truth'!
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:52:21 +0000 - tweet id 131126386155982848 - #402
@mathfour @ColinTGraham A: to the comfort level of the teacher, provided the teacher will follow students' curiosity. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:52:34 +0000 - tweet id 13112644 131126441768259584 - #403
@malynmawby Is #mathchat on? #poohbear

Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:52:58 +0000 - tweet id 131126543358504960 - #404
@mathfour @ColinTGraham @mrprcollins Unless you're quoting me of course... :D #mathchat

Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:53:02 +0000 - tweet id 131126558885806080 - #405
@ColinTGraham @malynmawby You've got about 7 minutes of #mathc #mathchat left! ;-)
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:53:38 +0000 - tweet id 131126709968830465 - #406
@harrisonalg Coming back 2 "crossing stream" idea. We know what streams need stream" crossing, & may know how 2 access, but no 2 crossings R same. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:53:59 +0000 - tweet id 131126799487877120 - #407
@missradders What she said! MT @mathfour: @ColinTGraham A: to the comfort level of the tchr, provided the tchr will follow students' curiosity. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:54:14 +0000 - tweet id 131126859130867712 - #408
@stefras @ColinTGraham I think improvisation happens when what you thought would happen (your plan) disagrees with student readiness. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:54:17 +0000 - tweet id 131126873806737408 - #409
@mrprcollins @ColinTGraham hmm, that being said I wonder if it'd be accepted as if evidence of CPD?! What with it mainly being ppls opinions? #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:54:18 +0000 - tweet id 131126879615852544 - #410
@mathfour @malynmawby Sweetie, you are just at the tail end of #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:55:00 +0000 - tweet id 131127052001755137 - #411
@Bob_the_teach @ColinTGraham #mathchat to meet the needs of all students lessons must be planned with clear and precise objectives. Are we professionals??
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:55:05 +0000 - tweet id 131127075976392704 - #412
@malynmawby I see #mathchat is on at a more decent time for me. yay. what the what's question I've got 3 minutes to think about?
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:55:13 +0000 - tweet id 131127107416887297 - #413
@ColinTGraham @mrprcollins Well, there is certainly enough evidence that taking part in twitter chats etc is valid as a kind of CPD... #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:55:25 +0000 - tweet id 1 131127159241715712 - #414
@mariposajanine #mathchat I like that RT @harrisonalg: Coming back 2 "crossing stream" idea. We know what streams need crossin (cont) http://t.co/LU6aW1Dm
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:55:26 +0000 - tweet id 131127162915913729 - #415
@stefras @mathhombre I discovered as a sub that planning, assessment, evaluation and exploration also keeps teacher up to date/fresh. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:55:41 +0000 - tweet id 131127225478164480 - #416
@mathfour @stefras Or students' curiosity. #mathchat

Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:55:51 +0000 - tweet id 131127266473291776 - #417
@malynmawby @mathfour I think tail ends are all I'm capable of lately. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:55:52 +0000 - tweet id 131127270436900865 - #418
@mathfour @Bob_the_teach You're not meeting needs - you're facili facilitating learning. And you're not there to accomplish a goal. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:56:24 +0000 - tweet id 131127405669646336 - #419
@ColinTGraham @mrprcollins If you want help shaping the use of #mathchat as CPD, DM me and we can work on something with some other teachers! ; ;-)
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:56:34 +0000 - tweet id 131127449105866752 - #420
@Bob_the_teach #mathchat for those advocating spontaneous lessons, how would you feel if your doctor, or pilot, or lawyer took this approach!!
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:57:04 +0000 - tweet id 131127 131127575488630784 - #421
@ColinTGraham @mrprcollins And ask @tomhenzley whether or not using Twitter is valid as CPD... he put a book together in his PGCE year ; #mathchat ook ;-)
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:57:23 +0000 - tweet id 131127652210843648 - #422
@mathfour @mrprcollins @ColinTGraham I'm registered in the State of Texas to provide CPEs (cont professional ed credits) for teachers. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:57:28 +0000 - tweet id 131127674973339649 - #423
@stefras @mathhombre Despite all my efforts to upgrade, I will never be able to match a regular teacher's knowledge and teaching. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:57:39 +0000 - tweet id 131127718631845888 - #424
@mariposajanine #mathchat CPD Might be all it takes is all of us nominating our s qualifications/positions in universities an (cont) http://t.co/qWsCc2ky
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:57:56 +0000 - tweet id 131127792019587072 - #425
@mathfour @ColinTGraham @mrprcollins I wanna help too! #mathchat

Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:58:14 +0000 - tweet id 131127865600258049 - #426
@MathLaoshi @ColinTGraham You need structure to be spontaneous. Otherwise, it's easy to mistake randomness for spontaneity. #mathchat ake
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:58:48 +0000 - tweet id 131128009133527040 - #427
@ColinTGraham @Bob_the_teach It's a good point, Bob. We could also argue whether teachers have the same status as doctors or lawyers... etc! #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:59:23 +0000 - tweet id 131128156995338240 - #428
@RGMontgomery RT @cybraryman1: @mbteach nice idea once in a while is to have students plan lessons. That is when they really appreciate how hard it is to teach teach#mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:59:36 +0000 - tweet id 131 131128210065858561 - #429
@ColinTGraham @Bob_the_teach The question is maybe more about lessons being too detailed or 'overplanned' = dry/uninteresting... #mathchat ed'
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:00:13 +0000 - tweet id 131128367268376576 - #430
@malynmawby Should you always have a Plan B? #mathchat

Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:00:37 +0000 - tweet id 131128465314422784 - #431
@malynmawby RT @MathLaoshi: @ColinTGraham You need structure to be spontaneous. Otherwise, it's easy to mistake randomness for spont spontaneity. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:00:56 +0000 - tweet id 131128546662944769 - #432
@mariposajanine You should plan to! :) RT @malynmawby: Should you always have a Plan B? #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:01:12 +0000 - tweet id 131128615 131128615038492673 - #433
@Bob_the_teach @mathfour #mathchat that is symantecs. Facilitating is meeting a need hat and of course you are there to accomplish a goal...Student progress!
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:01:32 +0000 - tweet id 131128699327225856 - #434
@stefras @sguditus I think it depends on the teacher. Some math teachers don't know math; some mathematicians don't know teaching. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:01:35 +0000 - tweet id 131128712136622080 - #435
@ColinTGraham @mariposajanine The question as to what 'counts' as CPD is probably question down to individual institutions, and us showing 'development'! #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:01:38 +0000 - tweet id 131128722202959872 - #436
@mathfour @Bob_the_teach If my doc, pilot or lawyer was facilitating the learning of said disciplines, that would be TRAINING, not teaching! #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:02:00 +0000 - tweet id 131128813672349696 - #438
@mariposajanine #mathchat ... and we don;t have a plan! RT @ColinTGraham: The question as to what 'counts' as CPD ...and us showing 'development'!
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:02:27 +0000 - tweet id 131128930064285696 - #439
@mathfour @stefras @mathhombre Bull. #mathchat

Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:02:37 +0000 - tweet id 131128971915051009 - #440
@ColinTGraham @MathLaoshi Random versus spontaneous... hmm... interesting point, but not for now, unfortunately! #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:02:37 +0000 - tweet id 131128970593832960 - #441
@mathfour @ColinTGraham @Bob_the_teach And pay! #mathchat

Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:03:33 +0000 - tweet id 131129205395165184 - #442
@malynmawby @ColinTGraham @MathLaoshi having plans with a flexible mindset allows room for randomness and spontaneity. plan is pt of refere reference #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:03:40 +0000 - tweet id 131129235078258689 - #443
@Bob_the_teach @ColinTGraham #mathchat good point about status, if we do not believe we have equal status we never will :)
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:03:44 +0000 - tweet id 131129251129856001 - #444
@ColinTGraham Well, once again, we 'almost' answered the topic question... Thanks for your contributions everyone! That's time! #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:04:54 +0000 - tweet id 131129545674866688 - #446
@mariposajanine Surely there is a nicer way to disagree or challenge an opinion? RT rely @mathfour: @stefras @mathhombre Bull. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:05:05 +0000 - tweet id 131129593372491776 - #447
@ColinTGraham Remember to check the Wiki, as different regions change back to winter times from daylight saving... http://t.co/0BVcnsmy #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:05:42 +0000 - tweet id 131129746959511552 - #448
@mathfour @Bob_the_teach No, sir, it is not. Having taught corp training as well as math learning, I assure you TRAINING is not LEARNING #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:06:13 +0000 - tweet id 131129876349595648 - #449
@republicofmath My doctor & lawyer do. But they both think @Bob_the_teach #mathchat ... how would you feel if your doctor or lawyer took this approach
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:06:18 +0000 - tweet id 131129895941181440 - #450
@ColinTGraham That IS nice... for Bon! ; ) RT @mariposajanine: Surely there is a nicer ;-) way...? RT @mathfour: @stefras @mathhombre Bull. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:06:42 +0000 - tweet id 131129999389503488 - #451
@stefras @mariposajanine @mathfour I had no problem with it. I believed I used "some" to differentiate from "all". All four alt happen.. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:06:46 +0000 - tweet id 131130014770012160 - #452
@mathfour @Bob_the_teach And it very much looks to me like your "student progress" means achieving some metric. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:06:50 +0000 - tweet id 131130031891169280 - #453
@harrisonalg Or C, or D, or.. RT @malynmawby Should you always have a Plan B? #mathchat

Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:06:53 +0000 - tweet id 131130042255278080 - #454
@TCrawford2011 Agree. RT @cybraryman1 Don't agree with "If you fail to plan, you plan to fail." Some of my best lessons were spontaneous #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:07:24 +0000 - tweet id 131130174669467648 - #455
@ColinTGraham I prefer Plan X from Outer Space, myself... RT @harrisonalg: Or C, or D, or.. RT @malynmawby Should you always have a Plan B? #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:07:31 +0000 - tweet id 131130203622735872 - #456
@mariposajanine ;) RT @ColinTGraham: That IS nice... for Bon! ; RT Surely there is a ;-) nicer way...? RT @mathfour: @stefras @mathhombre Bull. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:07:34 +0000 - tweet id 131130217241645057 - #457
@malynmawby considering I just got the tail end of #mathchat, I still enjoyed it. maths , teachers have a quirky sense of humour. kinda tangential.
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:08:27 +0000 - tweet id 131130440164704257 - #458
@ColinTGraham Something weird has been going on with the archive Wiki... will be trying with to sort it out this week... poll didn't update either! #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:08:58 +0000 - tweet id 131130567478607873 - #460
@harrisonalg @ColinTGraham Aah, "X" implying the unknown... here we go again. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:09:06 +0000 - tweet id 131130600789786624 - #461
@Bob_the_teach @mathfour #mathchat you may have missed my point - when undergoing surgery I want to know it is all planned not open him and let's see!!
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:09:12 +0000 - tweet id 131130626836406272 - #462
@mathfour Bull = I believe that @stefras underestimates his potential as a "real" teacher. @mariposajanine @ColinTGraham @m @mathhombre #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:13:06 +0000 - tweet id 131131610362941440 - #463
@ColinTGraham @malynmawby And if you put enough tangents together... you get a hyperbolic sense of humour... ;-) #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:13:37 +0000 - tweet id 131131738058526720 - #464
@mathfour @Bob_the_teach But surgery is VERY different than facilitating learning AND learning. your doc does experiment when diagnosing. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:13:49 +0000 - tweet id 131131788604088322 - #465
@stefras @malynmawby Who is good at both? And are they consistent at it? I know at times I am better at content, others better at teaching. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:14:25 +0000 - tweet id 131131940161077248 - #466
@Bob_the_teach @ColinTGraham #mathchat Fully agree lessons can be over planned... ColinTGraham And sometime too far in advance. Each lesson needs to build on previous
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:15:09 +0000 - tweet id 131 131132125654159360 - #467
@ColinTGraham @mathfour @Bob_the_teach And in Japan, your doctor will sometimes ask you what pills you want... he says from personal experience! #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:15:29 +0000 - tweet id 131132207266934785 - #468
@ColinTGraham @Bob_the_teach More importantly, a 'detailed' plan needs to be adjusted based on what happened, rather than just 'forced' through. #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:17:11 +0000 - tweet id 131132635224354817 - #469
@Bob_the_teach @mathfour #mathchat surgery not as bloody as some lessons -true! mathfour But similar as complex, outcome driven activity, not casual exercise.
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:17:11 +0000 - tweet id 1311326 131132634595205120 - #470
@Bob_the_teach @ColinTGraham #mathchat Exactly - what did students get, what needs review, hat needs whole new approach. Just like a doc!!
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:19:12 +0000 - tweet id 131133145838923778 - #471
@mathfour @Bob_the_teach AH! that's where the diff is - training is outcome driven, learning is free. Are you training kids in math (mayve) #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:20:04 +0000 - tweet id 131133363850461184 - #473
@ColinTGraham @mathfour Bob @Bob_the_teach is a head teacher, so his perspective is probably slightly different on issues of planning etc. ; #mathchat ;-)
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:21:49 +0000 - tweet id 131133803572887552 - #474
@Bob_the_teach @mathfour #mathchat This is where we have to disagree... Learning not free. Best learning is well planned, structured activity in all subs
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:22:26 +0000 - tweet id 131133957881331713 - #475
@Bob_the_teach @ColinTGraham @mathfour #mathchat Would love to stay, but bedtime in UK and I have math facilitation to plan!! Love you xx Laters!
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:24:19 +0000 - tweet id 131134433242791936 - #477
@ColinTGraham @Bob_the_teach Yep, I know the UK time, I'm in the UK too! Not nearly I'm my bedtime yet though... ;-) #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:25:53 +0000 - tweet id 131134824487469056 - #478
@stefras Finally at the top again. Thanks for the great #mathchat folks. Thanks again for moderating @ColinTGraham.
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:26:44 +0000 - tweet id 131135041039368192 - #479
@ColinTGraham For some reason, the new topic poll didn't appear on the Wiki, so I will topic choose the next topic and put a poll up for next week ; #mathchat ;-)
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:27:41 +0000 - tweet id 131135277182885890 - #480
@ColinTGraham @Bob_the_teach It was great to see you in #mathchat Bob, will look #mathchat, forward to seeing you again soon!
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:29:19 +0000 - tweet id 131135688660881408 - #481
@mathfour @Bob_the_teach What do you think about the #homeschool kids (often freely taught) who are exceeding the scores of PS kids? #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:30:46 +0000 - tweet id 131136053796028416 - #482
@mathfour @Bob_the_teach If structure is best, how is it that #unschooling e_teach #unschooling#homeschool families are doing so well? #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:31:32 +0000 - tweet id 131136247354765312 - #483
@mariposajanine #mathchat How do you know that the homeschooled kids did not start off better? RT @mathfour: @Bob_the_teac (cont) http://t.co/EEN3G8p8
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:32:29 +0000 - tweet id 131136486325227521 - #484
@tdsig #Dogme Maths? @ColinTGraham: Today's topic: "To what extent should lessons be planned or spontaneous?" #mathchat #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:33:57 +0000 - tweet id 131136857319813122 - #485
@Bob_the_teach @mathfour #mathchat- v interesting. Kids taken out of school and go around world w parents often come back 2 yrs ahead. Adult influence? 2-3
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:34:33 +0000 - tweet id 131137004816699392 - #486geo info: Point - lat = 50.8397 - long = -2.2554
@Coach9999 @republicofmath No sin in being well planned. The sin is sticking with the plan if your students steer things elsewhere #mathchat eer
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:34:50 +0000 - tweet id 131137077478834176 - #487
@Damon_Gang RT @republicofmath: But to get deep engagement I generally have to plan - and be spontaneous when it matters #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:35:20 +0000 - tweet id 131137205577068545 - #488
@ColinTGraham There speaks EFL! I'm biased! ; RT @tdsig #Dogme Maths? Today's ;-) topic:"To what extent should lessons be planned or spontaneous?" #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:38:03 +0000 - tweet id 131137887684136961 - #489
@tdsig @ColinTGraham looking forward to catching up with this #mathchat :-)

Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:39:47 +0000 - tweet id 131138322323083265 - #490
@tdsig RT @ColinTGraham: There speaks EFL! I'm biased! ; ) RT @tdsig ;-) #DogmeMaths? Today's topic:"To what extent should lessons be planned or Maths? spontaneous?"#mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:40:51 +0000 - tweet id 131138592318828544 - #491
@mathfour @mariposajanine How do you know your kids didn't? #mathchat

Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:41:21 +0000 - tweet id 131138717644627968 - #492
@AnthonyGaughan RT @ColinTGraham: There speaks EFL! I'm biased! ; RT @tdsig ;-) #Dogme Maths? Today's topic:"To what extent should lessons be planned or spontaneous?" day's #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:41:41 +0000 - tweet id 131138801526513665 - #493
@mariposajanine I have confidence in my pre and post assessment strategies RT @mathfour: @mariposajanine How do you know your kids didn't? #mathchat
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:42:26 +0000 - tweet id 131138989066436608 - #494

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@ColinTGraham Hello everyone and welcome to today's #mathchat

Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:30:33 +0000 - tweet id 131105800566476800 - #1

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@ColinTGraham @mathfour Wha that in kilometres... ? ;-P #mathchat What's

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@republicofmath 7.62 @ColinTGraham @mathfour What's that in kilometres... ? ; ;P#mathchat

@republicofmath I'm with @harrisonalg & Caplee62 #mathchat

@mathfour @Caplee62 must you know where you're going? #mathchat

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@republicofmath Oh yeah, 8km ( approx 26,247 ft) Colin @ColinTGraham #mathchat

@mathfour @mariposajanine Knowing content is different than having a plan. plan.#mathchat

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Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:47:51 +0000 - tweet id 131110153754914 131110153754914816 - #60

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@mathfour @deryckball "Creative disobedience" - that's cool sounding! #mathchat

Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:52:28 +0000 - tweet id 131111315837165569 - #83

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Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:58:10 +0000 - tweet id 131112753229340672 - #117

@stefras @earlsamuelson I liked the article. Hi students. #mathchat

Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:59:58 +0000 - tweet id 131113203810836480 - #129

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@stefras @ColinTGraham Canada also has a QTS #mathchat

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@mathfour @mariposajanine Good to know. #mathchat

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@mathhombre since teaching is problem solving... #mathchat

@kirstenchilds if you dont want to plan become a professor... #mathchat

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@delta_dc Yes! >> RT @mathhombre: since teaching is problem solving... #mathchat

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@mathhombre @mathfour planning is a huuuuge part of effective problem solving!#mathchat

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@mathhombre @ColinTGraham detail and flexibility, as you were saying #mathchat

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To what extent should lessons be planned or spontaneous? (follow (follow-up)

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To what extent should lessons be planned or spontaneous? (follow (follow-up)

@republicofmath Mathematicians can be teachers - most are @cybraryman1 #mathchat

Monday, 31st October 2011

To what extent should lessons be planned or spontaneous? (follow (follow-up)

@delta_dc @ColinTGraham Not sure how to do that : #mathchat :-)

@republicofmath @cybraryman1 Sorry Jerry - I missed the joke! #mathchat

Monday, 31st October 2011

To what extent should lessons be planned or spontaneous? (follow (follow-up)

@mathfour @mathhombre Well, maybe I do a little planning. *hrumph* #mathchat

@mathfour @mathhombre Well, maybe I do a little planning. hrumph #mathchat