Doctor_Jones

The Bible is full of Scientific errors and so is the Koran. Muslims like to refer to Harun Yahya or Maurice Bucaille and Christians like to refer to Henry Morris.

vicious9740

Ok point taken. May be after your study you can focus on the video. Its equally important to focus on things like life after death too. Afterall, all the hardwork we do on this earth will end meaninglessly if we chose the wrong path....So friend, keep things in balance...

bamkic

All I meant by saying it was dry was that I didn't (and still don't right now) have the energy in the midst of my academic studies to really focus on the video to really appreciate it.

vicious9740

Fairly dry does not make it invalid. The Christians say the Bible is the word of God. The Muslims say the Quran is the word of God. Who is right? Lets get back to Scientific Facts which are known to be true. The debate between Naik and Campbell will give the light. More interesting debate title is something like Jesus, Crusifiction or .... between Ahmed Deedat and I cant remember who. But you can search them on Youtube. Further, yes i agree that somethings when the world agree on all things, things can be so boring. But some things are well agreed and well established, such as scientific fact... No matter how boring they are...

bamkic

I just watched a few minutes on YouTube of the debate between Naik and Campbell. It's pretty long, and so far seems fairly dry. I'll give it another shot when exams are over and I'm not needing to watch my time as much. In response to your posts: 1. If thousands believe a lie, does that make the lie true? For the record, I did preface my post with the statement that it was coming from my perspective. In fact, I offer my perspective because it is (apparently) different. How boring the world where all were in agreement. 2. Were the "Christian" authors trying for some reverse psychology? I don't see why a Christian would produce a text trying—albeit fallaciously—to disprove Christianity. Feel free to message me if you want to. I'd be interested also in hearing from the authors.

vicious9740

And by the way, this article is written by fellow Christians...

vicious9740

Well what you think is not what others by the thousands think. For an open form on scientific facts of holy books, please watch video of Dr Zakir Naik vs Dr William Campbell.

bamkic

As a Christian, I'd like to address some of the claims made in this text from my perspective... --- Claim: "Today, modern Jews and Christians are quite embarrassed by these passages and try to ignore them or to quickly dismiss them as poetry." Response: I have never known anyone to be "embarrassed" by these passages—there's nothing to be embarrassed about: The passage from Deuteronomy states "by way where the sun goeth down." Which way is that? West. Nothing embarrassing here. In the passage from Psalms, the author describes the sun as a bridegroom, a strong man running a race. Clearly no one believes the author is saying the sun is getting married or putting on his track shoes, it /is/ poetic. The "tabernacle" is clearly just rhetoric. And just because it's poetic, doesn't mean I'm dismissing it. In the third passage, it's not that the sun just stood still, it's that the Lord God stopped it in its place for a day. I for one believe an all-powerful God can do anything He pleases. Embarrassing? No, the opposite. --- Claim: "Either the sun moves around the Earth or it doesn't. ... If you agree with us that the sun is shining on the other side of the earth and thus it does not go into its tabernacle, then you must also agree with us that the Bible contains scientific errors." Response: Sure the sun does. There's nothing in the Bible to contradict that. The perspective of man is that the sun moves about the earth. The writers of the Bible were men *inspired* by God's authoring. This is a negligible argument for the Bible's scientific errancy. --- Claim: "It only takes one error to disprove the Bible." Response: What is there to prove or disprove about the Bible? Mankind looks at the universe from within it—can that really lead to ultimate understanding? The Bible is God's gift to us from /His/ perspective: as the Author of the universe, as one who sees it from outside. This perspective was delivered to men within one culture, within one time period, within one technological age—with that come some quirks, sure. But overall the Truth the Bible reveals is far more substantial than anything a microscope does; it's timeless. The message in the Bible from end to end is holistically thorough and consistent. To say that one person's interpretation of the Bible showing scientific error disproves it, is like saying to an engineer: "Your manual is useless, there's a type-o on page 210, thanks to the intern you had working on it!" --- Final thoughts: I don't think this text shares anything too insightful. I don't think it "disproves" the Bible. But I do agree with the last sentence: "To find out more truth on Christianity, do some research."