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Theological Debate

Theological Debate

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Refuting the abominable heretical error that St. Peter was not Bishop of Rome.

Refuting the abominable heretical error that Tradition was not necessary & that it is foolish to hold.

Refuting the abominable heretical error that Catholicism was derived from Babylonian Paganism.

Refuting the abominable heretical error that the “King James Bible” is the Word of God.
Refuting the abominable heretical error that St. Peter was not Bishop of Rome.

Refuting the abominable heretical error that Tradition was not necessary & that it is foolish to hold.

Refuting the abominable heretical error that Catholicism was derived from Babylonian Paganism.

Refuting the abominable heretical error that the “King James Bible” is the Word of God.

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Theological Debate
By: Phil Friedl
 What is Liberalism?, Pages 96-103:
But our Catholic standpoint is absolute;there is but one truth, in which there is no room for opposition or contradiction.To deny that truth is unreasonable; it is to put falsehood on the level with truth.This is the folly and sin of Liberalism. To denounce this sin and folly is a duty anda virtue. With reason, therefore, does a great Catholic historian say to theenemies of Catholicity: "
You make yourselves infamous by your actions,and I will endeavor to cover you with that infamy by my writings.
"In this same way the law of the Twelve Tables of the ancient Romans ordained tothe virile generations of early Rome: Adversus hostem aeterna auctoritas esto, which may be rendered: "
To the enemy no quarter.
"1
 
Objection #1
Question Was Peter The First Pope? Answer The Roman Catholic church teaches the apostle Peter was the first pope.There is a verse in the bible which is used to support this error.Matthew 16:18 “And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will buildmy church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.” It is very easy to find many documents on the Internet which will give many details to show that Peter was not the firstPope, in spite of the many articles which Roman Catholic Writers produce to show that Peter was the first pope. My purpose is simply to show that the above scripture cannot be used as biblical authority, that Christ built His church on Peter. First there is the matter of thegrammar of the sentence. … It is a fundamental law in Greek grammar, without exception,that the Article, Pronoun, and Adjective must agree in gender with the Noun to which they refer. An example of this: Matthew 16:18 “And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, andupon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.”The pronoun “this” is Feminine, and thus agrees with petra, which is also feminine, and not with petros (Peter), which is Masculine. Strong’s no 4074 petrov Petros pet’-ros means stone.To state Peter =" a rock or a stone", only causes confusion and enables the lie that Christ builthis church on Peter. We therefore do not have to rely solely on Strong’s concordance. ChristHimself defined what Simon Peter would actually be called Cephas. John then explainedprecisely what it meant, a stone. John 1:42 And he brought him to Jesus. And when Jesus beheld him, he said, thou art Simon the son of Jona: thou shalt be called Cephas, which is by interpretation, A stone. A stone you can pick up in your hand. In spite of what thecommentaries say, I truly hope that we can all tell the difference between a rock and a stone.EG: This is a gigantic Rock Ayers Rock Australia - if the picture drops out just google for it.This means that Peter was not the rock on which the church would be built, according to thegrammar of the sentence. Christ was the Rock, not the stone on which the Eternal would build his church. Additionally scripture is very clear and also defines the Rock as Christ.
I Answer That,
“Only the Resurrection was mighty enough to induce the disciples to believe in the Churchand the future of Christianity; as for us, we are certain that Christ rose from the dead,
 because we see the Church.
” - St. AugustineJesus Christ spoke in Aramaic. His words were later translated into the Greek and Latin versions. I use two separate quotes to prove it. By using the Aramaic language as the quotestates further down: “The play on the word Kephas is possible only in Aramaic.”
Catholic Apologetics, Primacy of St. Peter, Pages 103-105:
“As an Apostolic Church, built upon the foundation of the Twelve Apostles, Jesus Christ being Himself the chief corner stone, the Church of Christ first appears in history (Eph. 2,20). - The mark of apostolicity, of historical and real connection with theTwelve, belongs so essentially to it that it cannot be conceived without it. Eventhe number twelve was of fundamental importance. The Twelve represent the2
 
new Israel which was to supersede the old Israel that had reject the Son of Man.They were conscious of the real significance of their number, and immediately after the Ascension of Jesus it was their first care to fill up the vacancy left intheir company by the suicide of Judas. On the occasion of this election one of theTwelve takes a leading part. It is Simon, the son of Jonas, surnamed Peter. It is he who suggests and conducts the election of Matthias. On the day of Pentecost it isagain Simon Peter who speaks in the name of all the Apostles to the assembledmultitude. He is also their spokesman before the High Priest and the Sanhedrin.He works astounding miracles. By baptizing the pagan centurion Cornelius hedecides the all important question whether pagans should be received into theChristian Church without circumcision. At the Council of Jerusalem he speaksfirst- the position of honor in all ancient assemblies- and calms the doubts of hismore Judaizing colleague St. James. Not only in Jerusalem, but also in the vastmission field where St. Paul exercised his apostolate with such astonishingsuccess, the authority of St. Peter is paramount. St. Paul says that with James andJohn he was one of the “pillars of the Church.” St. Paul's first visits to Jerusalemafter his conversion was made for the purpose “of becoming personally acquainted with Peter.” He remained with him fifteen days (Gal. 1:18). Heevidently felt the need of assuring himself that he was of one mind with Peter inhis teaching. From the Acts of the Apostles and the Epistles of St. Paul it is clear beyond the possibility of denial that the guidance of the primitive Churchdevolved upon the Apostles, and that Peter was the head, the “prince” of the Apostles.St. Matthew records an event which gives a satisfactory answer to ourquestion. It was in the neighborhood of Caesarea-Philippi at the foot of MountHermon, in full view of the mighty cliffs from which the waters of the Jordanissue, that Jesus asked His disciples: “whom do men say that the Son of Man is?But they said: Some John the Baptist, and other some Elias, and other Jeremias,or one of the prophets, Jesus Saith to them: But whom do you say that I am?Simon Peter answered and said: Thou art Christ, the Son of the living God.“And Jesus answering, said to him: Blessed art thou, Simon Bar-Jona: because flesh and blood hath no revealed it to thee, but My Father who is inheaven. And I say to thee. Thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build My Church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. And I will give to thee thekeys of the kingdom of heaven. And whatsoever thou shalt bind upon earth, itshall be bound also in heaven; and whatsoever thou shalt loose upon earth, itshall be loosed also in heaven.” (Matt. 16:13-20)Under a triple metaphor the primacy over the Church is promised to Peter:(a) He is the rock foundation that guarantees permanence of the Christian body;(b) he is the master of the Household of God; the keys symbolize the plenitude of his power over souls; (c) he receives the power to impose obligations on themembers of the Church and to relieve them of them, and the exercise of thispower is ratified in advance by God. The power of “binding and loosing” wasafterwards conferred on all the Apostles collectively (John 20: 22-23); but tonone of them except Peter did Christ say that he was the rock on which HisChurch was built, and the power of the keys was given to Peter individually and ina special manner.3

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