matthewktabor; @khokanson i'm 100% with you there - that criticism is an integral part of learning and writing about 13 hours ago - Reply - View Tweet about 13 hours ago - Reply - View Tweet - ‘cs Show Conversation jenwagner: @djakes and just when | was ready to jump into the conversation. Anh well, will wait for another night! @khokanson Nite to You Too!! about 13 hours ago - Reply ee djakes: @matthewktabor. Same, enjoyed it.. w Tweet defend, judge~all HOT blooms (old lit)..audience provides relevance.. AB khokanson: @djakes YES blogging extends b/c kids need 2 write, read, evaluate, about 13 hours ago - Reply - View Tweet - ‘> Show Conversation skydaddy: @djakes @khokanson basic concept: trust but verify. about 13 hours ago - Reply » View Tweet : '¢> Show Conversation matthewktabor: @djakes good night - thanks again for the chat about 13 hours ago : Reply : View Tweet - \¢> Show Conversation matthewktabor: @jonbecker how, then, was i able to leverage a blog and plenty of fy tech without a single piece of it coming from formal instruction? about 13 hours ago : Reply - View Tweet - (> Show Conversation too tired to think but this has been in my head deserving of post-2morrow about 13 hours ago - Reply - View Tweet a khokanson: & here's where @djakes gains advantage being an hour behind ;) I'm djakes: But its still writing. And communicating. about 13 hours ago - Reply - View Tweet New skills like blogging extend that concept of literacy a djakes: For example, we ask kids to write. Being able to write is part of being literate. about 13 hours ago - Reply - View Tweet | our timeless concept of literacy, need to be re-emphasized? #, djakes: @khokanson. Yes, that's the direction | am heading, what new skills, within a about 13 hours ago - Reply - View Tweet - {¢> Show Conversation | khokanson: literate about 13 hours ago - Reply - View Tweet - {¢3 Show Conversation djakes new skills that you need to be able to use in order to be. djakes: @khokanson. Is that a new literacy or is it a new skill. Would you use those } new skills do develop the understandings of a literate person? about 13 hours ago - Reply - View Tweet - "(> Show Conversation fA sjonbecker: @matthewktabor (&@djakes) if by “trickle down" you mean the a “turnkey” approach, that doesn't work (like "trickle down" econ.?)...(-; about 13 hours ago - Reply - View Tweet - (> Show Conversation djakes: @matthewktabor. Yeah, | think there is merit there, but with some end targets in mind. about 13 hours ago - Reply - View Tweet « ( Show Conversation skydaddy: @djakes @khokanson perhaps Knowledge has 2b (re)constructed individ'lly, but so much K held in common suggests that objective reality exists about 13 hours ago - Reply - View Tweet - ( Show Conversation knowledge, being literate=knowing where to go need tech to access/analyze A khokanson: @djakes lemme restate~there's so now many places 2 GO 2 construct about 13 hours ago - Reply - View Tweet matthewktabor: @djakes ‘let teachers go' meaning use their own tech expertise, not fire them about 13 hours ago - Reply - View Tweet « ‘¢> Show Conversation Mmatthewktabor: @djakes i think so. could it be more effective with $ and time to let teachers go? put $/time into better teachers, see tech trickle down? about 13 hours ago : Reply - View Tweet - (G1 Show Conversation djakes: @matthewktabor. Leaving it up to individual teachers creates pockets of innovation, |'m interested in more. (did | understand question?) about 13 hours ago : Reply - View Tweet - “> Show Conversation matthewktabor: [i'm just going to listen for a few minutes) about 13 hours ago « Reply - View Tweet djakes: @khokanson. | don't think you deliver knowledge, | would say that | knowledge is constructed individually, and teachers help shape that. about 13 hours ago : Reply - View Tweet - G Show Conversation jenwagner: Glad | took a nap.....enjoying the conversation. ‘@ddraper @whoeverelseisapart about 13 hours ago - Reply - View Tweet -@khokanson @djakes aishaladon: @matthewktabor it depends. A lot of teachers have told me they dont have time to learn new technology and really no time to implement about 13 hours ago - Reply - View Tweet skydaddy: @djakes @khokanson Idea: Modernism/materialism may impede tech ‘skill aquisition for some, as much tech skill depends on faith in the unseen. about 13 hours ago - Reply - View Tweet - ‘G1 Show Conversation khokanson: @djakes & how do you define literacy amongst all these new ways of delivering "knowledge" about 13 hours ago « Reply « View Tweet - ‘G Show Conversation matthewktabor: how is it more efficient/effective not to let them integrate tech in their classrooms and schools on their own? about 13 hours ago - Reply - View Tweet matthewktabor: here's a question i'd like an answer to... teachers, as private citizens, are likely way ahead of schools in tech/internet use about 13 hours ago - Reply - View Tweet djakes: @khokanson Literacies, huge question in all of this. New literacies or new | skills within timeless literacies? Thats the question... about 13 hours ago - Reply - View Tweet - SG> Show Conversation | khokanson: @djakes lots of things should b integral~but tech is critical 4 the application of all these critical things (ps y do I let u suck me in) about 13 hours ago - Reply - View Tweet - ‘¢> Show Conversation skydaddy: @djakes “Why are we integrating technology when it s/b integral?" Um, because it *isn't" yet integral. It's 1508 and not everyone has books about 13 hours ago « Reply - View Tweet - St Show Conversation ‘skills, that's the truth about 13 hours ago - Reply - View Tweet - ‘ca Show Conversation by, matthewktabor: @skydaddy yeah, expertise doesn't come with automatic teaching nashworld: Retweet from @djakes: If you didnt get classroom management, could you be a good teacher. No. So why do teachers get a pass on technology? about 13 hours ago : Reply : View Tweet nashworld: Retweet from @djakes: Why are we integrating technology when it should be integral? about 13 hours ago - Reply - View Tweet techicebreaker: @matthewktabor Thanks for the link and information! about 13 hours ago - Reply - View Tweet - ‘> Show Conversation | khokanson: @djakes interesting Q re literacies...one I've been pondering since this wkend when I was here hitp://sni mnt a) about 13 hours ago - Reply - View Tweet - ‘(> Show Conversation djakes: Why are we integrating technology when it should be integral? about 13 hours ago : Reply » View Tweet skydaddy: @matthewktabor @jonbecker I've seen a lot of experts that couldn't teach their way through damp tissue. Forgot how it was to be a beginner about 13 hours ago - Reply - View Tweet - G Show Conversation Sa matthewktabor: @techicebreaker this shows TPCK pretty well: about 13 hours ago - Reply - View Tweet - (¢2 Show Conversation deadly-dull "immersive interactive social media environments.” And vice versa. about 13 hours ago - Reply - View Tweet - ‘¢> Show Conversation Sh skydaddy: @matthewktabor @djakes I've seen spellbinding lectures, and djakes: Or does there need to be something more expected, beyond the individual, a collective direction where student comes first? about 19 hours ago « Reply - View Tweet skydaddy: @matthewktabor @djakes draw pictures in the dirt with a finger while telling a story - baddaboom, there's yer "digital multimedia narrative" about 13 hours ago - Reply - View Tweet - ‘> Show Conversation (FV jonbecker: @matthewktabor i agree, but should we expect teachers today to have r TPACK expertise and not just PCK expertise? about 13 hours ago - Reply - View Tweet - (> Show Conversation djakes: Considered across all buildings in your district, all classes, all teachers, all students? about 13 hours ago : Reply - View Tweet Matthewktabor: @jonbecker i don't think anything would have been better than the interaction with an expert that i got about 13 hours ago - Reply - View Tweet - ‘fs Show Conversation skydaddy: @matthewktabor @djakes Is this a private fight or can anyone join in? +) Technology is NOTHING more than a set of affordances & constraints about 13 hours ago - Reply - View Tweet - (> Show Conversation diakes: Would you be willing to leave the development of specific literacies up to the choice of teachers? about 13 hours ago « Reply - View Tweet khokanson: @ddraper thanks so much, now where would *I* have been this eve without technology for learning @djakes, can use that as ammo if u like ;-) about 13 hours ago - Reply « View Tweet - ‘f> Show Conversation A a seani: @djakes admins that pass on tech=teachers that pass on tech & about 13 hours ago : Reply : View Tweet : ‘(> Show Conversation matthewktabor: @jonbecker i could make exactly the same diagram to explain 19th century blacksmithing apprenticeship $8) about 13 hours ago « Reply - View Tweet - ( Show Conversation FY jonbecker: @matthewktabor getting back to @djakes' question, if that teacher had - B TPCK expertise, might that have been a richer experience? about 13 hours ago - Reply - View Tweet - 't> Show Conversation MS djakes: And what teachers need, what they want to do, without consideration for the systemic development of educational excellence. about 13 hours ago « Reply : View Tweet djakes: Should the focus be on teachers or on students. | see too much focus on teachers. about 13 hours ago - Reply - View Tweet jonbecker: @matthewktabor agreed that it's not terribly novel, but | don't think it a5 ought to be an ed. school issue (at least not yet), but... about 13 hours ago : Reply » View Tweet - ¢> Show Conversation ddraper: @djakes Because Steve Jobs has said so. about 13 hours ago - Reply - View Tweet - “@s Show Conversation matthewktabor: @jonbecker and is a fancy, overly complex way of addressing the same synthesis of knowledge experts have used for centuries Mf about 13 hours ago - Reply - View Tweet - St Show Conversation djakes: If you didnt understand classroom management, could you be a good teacher. No. So why do teachers get a pass on technology? about 13 hours ago - Reply - View Tweet matthewktabor: @jonbecker i think TPCK addresses an issue way down the list of priorities of what needs fixing in ed schools about 13 hours ago « Reply « View Tweet : ‘(> Show Conversation me of course about 14 hours ago : Reply » View Tweet : ‘ic Show Conversation 3p djakes: @matthewktabor. I'm not sure | would like that type of school...but thats just FY ionbecker: @matthewktabor what do you make of TPACK, then? Ls about 14 hours ago - Reply - View Tweet - “i> Show Conversation ddraper: Front row seats to @djakes vs, @matthewktabor. Hey @shareski, can you pass the popcorn? about 14 hours ago - Reply - View Tweet matthewktabor: @djakes i'm not saying tech is useless or we should teach in dungeons, just that quality teaching is priority #1 and the rest can come after about 14 hours ago « Reply - View Tweet - > Show Conversation throw some prison bars in there and i'll still choose that option Ei matthewktabor: @djakes taught by experts instead of the avg. ed school grad? about 14 hours ago - Reply - View Tweet - SS Show Conversation djakes: @matthewktabor. | accept your no, much can be accomplished in that type of classroom. about 14 hours ago - Reply - View Tweet - > Show Conversation JackieB: @matthewktabor Did all of the students in this class think this? about 14 hours ago « Reply « View Tweet your assessment is giving you good feedback for lifelong learning skills i, ehelfant: @djakes you can be a good teacher- but you need to pause and ask if about 14 hours ago - Reply - View Tweet - > Show Conversation MrChase: @djakes Can you be a good teacher over time without reflecting on your practice? about 14 hours ago : Reply View Tweet djakes: and would 5 classes in windowless, chalkboard classrooms with content experts be an acceptable situation for preparing students today? about 14 hours ago « Reply - View Tweet lie and say "yes" even though i don't believe it at all about 14 hours ago - Reply - View Tweet - "> Show Conversation Ey matthewktabor; @djakes every time i say "no" to that question i get harassed. so i'll ehelfant: @djakes discipline specific learning might not sutfer.-more that teaching the broader skillset and emerging literacies suffer - about 14 hours ago - Reply - View Tweet - ‘>> Show Conversation Img_01 soniason: @mrchase did you see @djakes last question? b about 14 hours ago - Reply - View Tweet - ‘¢ Show Conversation djakes: @matthewktabor. Could the use of technology in any way have made the experience larger, more rich, and better? about 14 hours ago - Reply - View Tweet ‘(> Show Conversation JackieB: @djakes Thanks. Me too. I'm trying to start some conversations. about 14 hours ago - Reply - View Tweet : 't Show Conversation matthewktabor: @djakes why was it the best? teacher was an expert in the subject about 14 hours ago - Reply - View Tweet - SG Show Conversation ddraper: @coolcatteacher @djakes I'll buy that. about 14 hours ago - Reply - View Tweet - '¢ Show Conversation djakes: @matthewktabor Why? about 14 hours ago - Reply - View Tweet - 5; Show Conversation djakes: Could you be a good teacher without employing proper assessment? about 14 hours ago Reply - View Tweet matthewktabor: @djakes the best science class i ever had was in a windowless classroom with a chalkboard and no labs about 14 hours ago - Reply - View Tweet - '; Show Conversation djakes: Another critical question. Can you be a good teacher w/o using technology? Answer-yes. But student learning may suffer. about 14 hours ago - Reply - View Tweet Boe sm cooleatteacher: @ddraper@djakes Elementary kids don't HAVE to blog but if they don't by the time they've graduated highschool - done a disservice. about 14 hours ago - Reply - View Tweet - 5¢> Show Conversation joevans: @djakes Don't they go hand in hand? about 14 hours ago - Reply - View Tweet seani: @djakes niether..assesment about 14 hours ago - Reply - View Tweet - ( Show Conversation ddraper: @djakes Do elementary age kids really need to blog? | love you, maaaaan! about 14 hours ago « Reply - View Tweet - ‘> Show Conversation ehelfant: @djakes thanks for framing that way-think we lean to student learning now.moving to learning across all constituencies. including parents about 14 hours ago « Reply - View Tweet - {2 Show Conversation rlacklin: @djakes student learning---moved to a fully differentiated model of instruction this year in Sth-8th. More project-based. about 14 hours ago - Reply - View Tweet JackieB: @djakes Test scores. Under which does that fall? (To me it's neither.) about 14 hours ago - Reply - View Tweet - (© Show Conversation jakes: @ddraper Do elementary age kids really need to use Google Docs? about 14 hours ago - Reply - View Tweet - (t> Show Conversation Feb RSE