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Skinny vs. Fat

Skinny vs. Fat



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Published by Leila Aghdas Ryndak

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Published by: Leila Aghdas Ryndak on Feb 10, 2012
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Leila Aghdas Ryndak
the main problem with this is that in all likelihood theperson who wrote the text is not the model in the picture, and the model in thepicture probably does starve herself.
Sam May
That is complete speculation Leila, and exactly the ignorance I'mtrying to stop. I know a lot of naturally skinny beautiful girls and none of themare models and none of them have eating disorders. What difference does itmake if the person who wrote it isn't the same one as in the picture? And, quiteliterally, the bigger problem in america is people stuffing there faces. 1 in 200women suffer from anorexia. 1/3 of america is obese.
Leila Aghdas Ryndak
WHOA! did i say i have a problem with skinny people? NO.i know plenty of people that also have a fast metabolism, including guys. andthat's fine by me! it makes a huge difference because there is a PROBLEM in themodeling (among others) industry pushing girls to be thinner than they wouldbe naturally. it's hypocritical because whoever wrote this is most likely speakingon behalf of whomever is ACTUALLY in this picture, of which we have no ideaabout her eating habits. yes it is speculation which is why i said "in all
likelihood" but it's based on the fact that this is clearly a commercial andprofessional image, and therefore probably contains a model whose line of workputs the kind of pressure on people who DO have eating disorders.
Allyson Nelson
This...is absurd .
Christina Campos
According to ANAD-The body type portrayed in advertisingas the ideal is possessed naturally by only 5% of American females
Christina Campos
Not that you are saying that picture above is the ideal bodyfor women but naturally thin women do not look that. I do believe the girl abovedoes suffer from an eating disorder.
Lindsay Rozynek
troof leila, truuuth
Sam May
So whats the point in speculating all of this? This could very well bethe girl who wrote it. You simply don't know so why even bother bringing it up? Iwould agree that modeling definitely has some issues with eating disorders butthis isn't about models. This is about the general public who is skinny and getsshit for it because if you are skinny you MUST have an eating disorder. This postis trying to raise awareness to that mentality and you just seem to want to pokeholes in it.
Leila Aghdas Ryndak
sam, i never said i didnt agree with you. i know beautifulgirls who were teased for being too skinny growing up because they literallycould not put on weight due to their metabolism. i understand. but i'm bringingit up because there is a problem with the way this statement is being presented.i don't know for sure, but i will bother bringing it up, because it's contradictoryand most likely true. it becomes about models because the person pictured IS AMODEL. i said nothing about the truth of the statement, i only made anobservation based on logic. i would bet money that the girl pictured is not theone who wrote it.
Leila Aghdas Ryndak
btw, my actual opinion on this is that it shouldnt beskinny vs. fat. it should be fit & healthy vs. unfit & unhealthy.
Leila Aghdas Ryndak
skinny people can die of a cholesterol problem the sameway obese people can.
Lindsay Rozynek
yeah "skinny fat"
Sam May
Basically Leila, you have speculated this entire argument. Whatconstitutes a model? Someone who is pictured? Do you know who this girl is? Doyou know what she eats? Do you know her lifestyle? This is a skinny girl who isunder attack right now because you think she has an eating disorder when yousimply have no idea. This is exactly my point. Just because some skinny peoplestarve themselves doesn't mean they all do. The bottom line is you do not knowthat she has an eating disorder. You just think she does because she is skinnyand in a picture. And yes skinny people can die from high cholesterol but are far
less likely than overweight people.
Sam May
The reason I'm defending this girl is because it's the words that areimportant that you say you agree with so why try to bring it down? Would itmake a difference if I used a picture of my skinny sister instead of this girl? Itshouldn't matter. The main point stays the same.
Christopher Church
Leila Aghdas Ryndak
a person or thing that serves as a subject for an artist,sculptor, writer, etc.a person whose profession is posing for artists or photographers.tell me this isn't a professional image...i dont see anything wrong with logical speculation.i'm not attacking her, i am trying to make you see the problem with using THISIMAGE to represent THAT STATEMENT. do YOU know anything about her? canyou prove to me that she doesn't have an eating disorder and that she is not amodel? exactly, speculation. which is why im using words like "probably" and"likely". damn dude, when are you gonna understand what i'm saying? it wouldtotally make a difference if you are trying to represent "normal skinny people"which you insist on being the most important thing here.
Leila Aghdas Ryndak
YEAH WHATChristopher Church. jeebus.
Christopher Church
Leila Aghdas Ryndak
youre defending this girl against nothing. im talkingabout the hypocrisy of the image.
Stephanie Truchan
I LOVE this! I am sooooo glad somebody had the balls tosay this because it's absolutely true.
Leila Aghdas Ryndak
"I would agree that modeling definitely has some issueswith eating disorders but this isn't about models."i understand that the statement is speaking for the general public, but it ISabout models because that is a model pictured.
Lindsay Rozynek
(not taking sides only noting) it is professional, you can tellby the lighting, backdrop and slight retouching.
Lindsay Rozynek
(just had a lighting demo at school for photo shoots mondaylol)
Christopher Church
I'm beautiful! this all helped me realize it.
Sam May
What is normal skinny?? My sister is probably skinnier than her causeshe's taller. The point in speculating is it hurts the main cause for no specificpurpose! I completely understand what you're saying but I just don't see thepoint of saying it. Take for instance "big is beautiful." What if I commented on

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This article is similar to the discussion and initial subject of the model and message it's portraying. Appears defensive just as much as offensive. I think overall the message shouldn't be skinny vs. fat but happy-medium:) Thanks!
The Media

Exploring the role society and the media play in the development of an Eating Disorder and the Media Influence on Eating Disorders.

Searching for the Perfect Body
by: Heather Mudgett

Eating Disorders and the Media
by: Karyn, Leah, Gina, Evelyn, & Melissa

Combating negative and distorted images of women

The Media

Okay, so we all want to hear how Calvin Klein is the culprit and that the emaciated waif look has caused women to tale-spin into the world of Eating Disorders. While the images of child-like women has obviously contributed to an increased obsession to be thin, and we can't deny the media influence on eating disorders, there's a lot more to it than that. With approximately six billion people in the world, and a mere ten million of them suffering with some type of disordered eating (.18% of the overall population -- less than a � of 1%), the media obviously doesn't cause everyone to develop Anorexia, Bulimia or Compulsive Overeating. (Current statistics indicated that approximately one in every one hundred teenage girls may develop an Eating Disorder).

It is a lot more complex than blaming the media.
The media most certainly contributes to dieting and size discrimination
but Eating Disorders are NOT Diets!

From early-on children are taught by society that their looks matter. Think of the three and four year old who is continuously praised for being "oh so cute". With an increased population of children who spend a lot of time in front of television, there are more of them coming up with a superficial sense of who they are. Images on T.V. spend countless hours telling us to lose weight, be thin and beautiful, buy more stuff because people will like us and we'll be better people for it. Programming on the tube rarely depicts men and women with "average" body-types or crappy clothes, ingraining in the back of all our minds that this is the type of life we want. Overweight characters are typically portrayed as lazy, the one with no friends, or "the bad guy", while thin women and pumped-up men are the successful, popular, sexy and powerful ones. How can we tell our children that it's what's inside that counts, when the media continuously contradicts this message?

Super models in all the popular magazines have continued to get thinner and thinner. Modeling agencies have been reported to actively pursue Anorexic models. The average woman model weighs up to 25% less than the typical woman and maintains a weight at about 15 to 20 percent below what is considered healthy for her age and height. Some models go through plastic surgery, some are "taped-up" to mold their bodies into more photogenic representations of themselves, and photos are airbrushed before going to print. By far, these body types and images are not the norm and unobtainable to the average individual, and far and wide, the constant force of these images on society makes us believe they should be. We need to remind ourselves and each other constantly (especially children) that these images are fake.

Diet advertisements are another problem. On television, in magazines and newspapers, we are continually exposed to the notion that losing weight will make us happier and it will be through "THIS diet plan". Time and time again it has been proven that, for the long-term, regimented diet plans DO NOT work, yet our society continues to buy into the idea that they do. Pop-culture's imposed definition of "the ideal body" combined with the diet industry's drive to make more money, creates a never-ending cycle of ad upon ad that try to convince us "...if you lose weight, your life will be good." The flip side is that as long as we continue to buy into their false claims by purchasing these (often dangerous) products, the more the diet industry will keep pushing their slogans at us.

From the About-Face organization: "400-600 advertisements bombard us everyday in magazines, on billboards, on tv, and in newspapers. One in eleven has a direct message about beauty, not even counting the indirect messages."

While all of these images, advertisements, and messages may be counterproductive to a good self-image, and society's overall acceptance of each person's different size and shape, they are NOT the reason so many men and women develop an Eating Disorder. These images may not help, and for those already open to the possibility of negative coping mechanisms and/or mental illness, the media may play a small contributing role -- but ultimately, if a young man or woman's life situation, environment, and/or genetics leave them open to an Eating Disorder (or alcoholism, drug abuse, depression, OCD, etc.), they will still end up in the same place regardless of television or magazines. Ultimately it's important to know that Anorexia, Bulimia and Compulsive Overeating are NOT about weight and food. Rather they are complex disorders where each sufferer is plagued with low self-esteem, an inability to cope with their own emotions and stress, and many underlying issues that have lead them to their disordered eating.


Barbie-type dolls have often been blamed on playing a role in the development of body-image problems and Eating Disorders. Not only do these dolls have fictionally proportioned, small body sizes, but they lean towards escalating the belief that materialistic possessions, beauty and thinness equate happiness. Barbie has more accessories available to purchase than can be believed, including Ken, her attractive boyfriend. She has an assortment of jobs including: Potty-training her sister Kelly, princess and more recently, Dentist (in which she wears a mini-skirt and has enough hair that her patients would choke). While I personally do NOT believe every girl that has a Barbie-type doll is at risk of disordered eating, I do believe it helps to perpetuate an ideal of materialism, beauty, and being thin as important elements to happiness in one's life. At an age where children are very impressionable and seek to be like the role models around them, it's important to emphasize that they are pretend. If your kids want these dolls (and lots of kids do), they should learn to rely on their imagination in playing with Barbie creatively (we often have her driving a dump truck or fixing the car in our house). In general, children need to be exposed to a variety toys, and provided with well-rounded choices. Most importantly, they need to see in real-life the true role models such as doctors, teachers, women and men in history, artists, writers, and moms and dads.

Society and Culture

In addition to the media, part of the societal problems are a result of lack of education. Girls and boys need to be aware of the changes their bodies go through during puberty and why, and as well, why they should feel proud of their bodies no matter what size or shape.

People in societal "pop-culture", whether consciously or subconsciously, perpetuate the ideal of thinness through their conversations, judgments and teasing of their peers and other family members. The associate of shame with weight, as women tend to not want to disclose what they weigh, or do not want to be seen in "this bathing-suit" or "that pair of shorts" contributes to the sense that they should be ashamed of their body size. The chronic passive obsession about weight within families (wife asks husband "do I look fat in this?"), and within circles of friends (first time seeing someone in a while, the comment: "you've gained/lost weight!") continues to emphasize the idea that how we look and what we weigh is of utmost importance. Many of us blame the magazines and diet ads, while we walk around guilty of the same "crimes".

A high percentage of the American culture falls into one of two categories. Couch potato or exercise freak. There is no consistent example set to our children that moderate regular exercise is good for us and essential for our health. They either see us rigorously obsessed with burning calories and fat, or neglecting our bodies through lack of activity. We also live in the age of the video game and the internet where many of our children spend countless hours in front of Nintendo or watching as their parents sit at the computer for hours on end. It is important to encourage your kids to go outside and play and to teach them about exercise. They need to know that there is such a thing as too much or too little. The best thing you can do for your children is to take walks as a family four or five days per week, because "it's good for our bodies and because it's fun".

A recent study by a popular television news program investigated the pursuit of a professional career, and how looks play a role. Two men and two women were sent out in search of jobs (one of each was considered more attractive than the other, and their looks were accentuated up or down with make-up). Both dressed well and had equal qualifications. Each time the "more attractive" man or woman, though equally well-spoken, amicable and qualified, was immediately invited back for a return interview, or hired right away. Looks and weight have continued to play a role in whether a person is hired, or is able to be promoted, especially in women. Professional women are often expected to be thin, well-dressed, and attractive. You should visit the International Size Acceptance Association about the topic of fighting size discrimination.
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