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The rates of suicide, imprisonment and emotional dysfunction among highly intelligent people are much higher than for the average. Many are socially and emotionally underdeveloped or maldeveloped. Read on to learn why.
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This is a great explanation regarding how civilisation is orientated towards stupidity. It's a very sad world if you have a competent brain.
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I am fairly intelligent. I read, draw, sing and get high grades. But i am always left behind. Always made to get left to last , put with idiots(Who are usually the Bullies) because "I can help them"- I am not a teacher, i am not getting paid 30k per annum!!
.I have been bullied on/off , mainly because my volcabulary consists of more than two syllables and my conversation isn't filled with soap operas and Reality TV.
When i talk to peers , i have to dumb my lanuage down ,try to act like i don't understand what the lesson means , just so they'll stop and leave me alone .
It seems like im in a school where there a infestation of idiots. Someone asked the Physcology teacher today "What does Hinder mean?", a sixth year student(Grade 13) . I dispair of the human race , where intelligence means squat and the highest paid people , are made of plastic or can joy of all joys kick a ball a few feet. But i suppose it's always been this way , intelligent people are defined by their suffering and bitterness.
i am highly intelligent i went above 190 in IQ tests. Irrespective of that I am never arrogant very down to earth and a nice guy.The problem is with geniuses you have great difficulty interacting with others. Such a high iq has given me more problems in life, for eg social interaction, depression. Wen you have such a high iq you see things nobody else sees.
I dont think Hemingway was particularly intelligent although he was a decent novellist. What is sad is the way, today, ignorance is somehow on a pedestal and everything must cater to the lowest common denomenator.
If you reached this site email me birojek@hotmail.com, maybe we can group and change this world for the better.
When you understand the universe the role of people in it, your own fate, the existance of other people who frustrate you, that you can not change the world, that your friends are not understanding of your insights, you feel alone, alienated, helpless. Sometimes you wish that you had brain damage, could enjoy a football game, a soapie, a beer drinking bar conversation, live in a country that fosters this culture.
Being intelligent doesn't make you less human, you still have the basic human need to belong, but regardless of how socially competent you are, you often find you belong on the edges and that isn't a great place to live.
You can be admired, praised, put on a pedestal, but nobody invites you round for dinner because you're not quite one of them. Everybody lands on your doorstep wanting you to sort out their problems, because you are capable, smart energetic, but if you have a problem they disappear because if you can't work it out, they think what hope have they got.
If you're female and not inclined to be a nun or an academic it's even worse. At 49 most of my friends are under 30 because they are the only ones who don't feel threatened by me, but I'd like friends my own age whose husbands don't hit on me, whose male egos aren't threatened by me, and who don't see me as some sort of super computer devoid of emotion and warmth.
Being different is always a problem, being intelligent doesn't make it any easier, it makes it harder, because it robs you of blind optimism for both your own circumstances and those of the world at large.
If intelligent people are what they think intelligent is, why do they create ways to make being unhappy ok. If you are as intelligent as you are told or think you are why not create ways to be happy. I would "EXPECT" intelligent people to find answers.
I don't disagree with this.
In response to adipe, try to keep in mind that you are 13. You may be ahead intellectually, but you are still developing. I can definitely relate to you in the aspect of frustration and depression. I too was very confused at your age. I often disregarded positive comments from friends or family, thinking to myself that they were just being kind instead of brutally honest, which is what i craved most. But remember, smart people understand they are really dumb in the grand scheme of things, and still have much to learn. Ignorant people really believe they are smart. So just because your ahead of the crowd, doesn't give you the green light to slow down.
I didn't understand why I was so depressed or why it just wouldn't STOP. I'm 22 now, and the hormones do chill out and give you a brake, eventually. For me, it took until I was 19. But I did have other contributing factors to my own insanity.
Anyone that even suggests dreaming about death is unnatural, is lying, or an idiot. So don't beat yourself up about it. Look at it more as inspiration to dig deeper into your own unconsciousness. Your mind is so powerful it's reaching out to you and you do have the ability to acknowledge it learn something from yourself.
Next time the world drags you down, think about all the good you can do to help people. Remember, the world is what you make it. And yes, I do mean IT'S ALL IN OUR HEADS (take responsibility people!).
You obviously have the power and the hormones to hurt yourself further. The question is, do you want to make the world a better place, or not. If you choose to hurt yourself, you will hurt the people around you. Thats more pain than I could bare, and I'm guessing thats exactly why you haven't gone completely through with it. It's my reason, anyhow. I've spent much time to myself, mostly because of my inner conflicts. I don't consider myself intelligent. But I acknowledge that I'm more intelligent than some. Thats only more reason to take some kind of responsibility for the people around me.
I guess what I'm trying to say is, because of your intelligence, on top of being a teenager, its a bit much for the developing body to handle. Next time you feel like bursting out of your skin, know your not the only one. Don't separate yourself from the world, because it definitely won't make you feel any better. The only suggestion I have is embrace your artistic side. Flow all your pain, confusion, love and anguish into a beautiful masterpiece. When your older your love to read it, and your be able to appreciate yourself.
My IQ was rated at 154 when I was 5 or six and at 171 when I was 24. My gift was for languages and I knew/know it, excelled in it and just reveled in the beautiful simplicity of written language and speech (especially if you realize the correlation to mathematics, even complex languages like Mandarin or Japanese make more sense). This whole premise of their being more suicide among the higher intelligencia may sound farcical, but it's something to which I can personally relate. Having been brought to see the world for what it is, it's (the world) awfully disappointing in many respects. Being blamed for not fitting in socially with most people, being socially isolated. Hell, I can't be blamed for this, I was born this way. Attempts to fit in are met with more difficulty than I honestly think is worth it. It sucks.
I'm thirteen; and my teachers, parents, even my friends say I'm smarter then them. I find this a bit absurd to be honest; but it is true that I spend a lot more time thinking about how the world could be better, and all it's down falls. It's true that this makes me upset, and this has contributed to the fact that I have attempted suicide on more then one occaison. I have had a normal childhood so far, no abuse or anything. I write a lot, and my works tend to be about death, or pychological problems in peoples minds. I am quite disturbing, I dream about my parents and freinds dying everynight; and yes, this has also messed me up further. So, really; I'm just wondering if this is only going to get worse, if there is any way to tell; or will this stop before I start self harm again.
Please if you're going to say something like 'this is absolute nonsense' at least make a better point.
There is actually a whole community of scientists in europe with similar theories, according to them a special type of 'brain wiring' (for lack of a better term), would make some people stand out of the crowd at early age because of their intellectual prowesses, but also because of their excentricity and/or a tendency to not get along with just anybody.
Anyone says it's bullshit, look up ''gifted'' on wikipidea.
altought to say most of the people in prison are intelligent would be a mistake(random people get arrested for miscenlanious reasons), saying all people that go to jail do so for stupid reasons would also be a sizeable mistake, there are some crimes that do require a certain amount of wits to accomplish,for example, chipping XBOXes, fraud, and the guy thats on top of a criminal organization is usually the one that's smart enough to not get caught for the longest time.
Also right is that intelligent people tend to get depressive more easily, because they tend to overthink everything, insomnia because you can't stop thinking comes in mind. H.P. Lovecraft(1890-1937) had not many readers in his time, but is now considered as one of the most influencial horror writers of the century. In Lovecraft's stories, characters with imagination tend to feint or go crazy more likely when facing cosmic horrors or sinister realizations, as opposed to cold blooded and mundaine people who just don't bother thinking about it too much.
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CBMM, if your assessment of yourself is accurate (self assessment rarely is, but you may well be an exception), you may have underlying physiological problems. For example, general anxiety disorder could affect your sleep and could cause depression. (Long term anxiety and depression are related in the brain--both depend on the amount of cortisol the brain causes to be produced, too much or too little.) The depression could be Seasonal Affective Disorder (SAD) due to not enough vitamin D (specifically D3) in your body. If your depression tends to be more in winter than in summer or if it's all the time but you expose yourself to little direct sunlight even in summer, SAD could well be the cause.
I have personal experience with all of the above and their solutions, so I speak with confidence.
I almost forgot to mention that, I had great parents, I was never abused by anyone, I had lots of friends growing up and I still do, I'm not lazy (I worked very hard during college, it wasn't easy), I have a wonderful wife who is the love of my life, I have tried sleeping pills and they do not work. Now post your thoughts about this. I'm really asking for some advice here.
I have always been more intellectually developed than my friends; even when I was a child. I remember feeling sad and lonely for most of my childhood, and I never understood why. One thing I know for sure is that it wasn't because I had wanted to feel this way or had decided to either. I am also very satisfied with my life. I started college when I was 16 and I Graduated at the age of 18. I had the best grades in almost all of my classes (I’m very proud and satisfied, thank you). I still feel extreme depression several times a week. Its almost always at night, which is often since I always have trouble sleeping at night. Any advise? (From smart people ONLY, please no more stupid people or their stupid comments).
Well, one things for sure... I don't need you for survival.
People are dumb in general, and I don't need some longwinded reason to back that statement up.
Last thing: Don't forget that who you are is different from what you are, it's just that one has been crammed into the physical space of another, and you squirm to get out.
why is it that most children raise grown ups and grown ups take the credit. The measure of intelligents is not in a mear book, nore an individual, its in a society as a whole. We measure ourselves on the knows and the knows not. If you are the only one that knows you are considered a lunitik. If you would of said that one day we will communicate through cyberspace before there was electricity you would be laughed at. The definition of how a person feels at a time in there life does not constitute there intellectual level. Life for everyone is different and we all need each other for survival. So to say that if someone says that they are intellegent or smarter than most is almost saying that they are not smart at all.
well aren't you all so smart.
antispy 10 days ago
Okay, very interesting :D