@BonnieAdamson: TOPIC: How do you deal with pop culture references in your work?

How do you set time and place with or without them? #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:00 am

@gregpincus: TOPIC: How do you deal with pop culture references in your work? How do you set time and place with or without them? #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:00 am

@kidlitchat: TOPIC: How do you deal with pop culture references in your work? How do you set time and place with or without them? #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:00 am

@lisabrowndraws: Super topic! RT TOPIC: How do you deal with pop culture references in your work? How do you set time and place w or w/out them? #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:00 am

@delzey: RT @kidlitchat: TOPIC: How do you deal with pop culture references? How do you set time and place with or without them? #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:02 am

@JulieFHedlund: Not as much of an issue in #picturebooks, but I'll be interested to see what the novelists have to say! #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:02 am

@lisabrowndraws: This is a pet peeve of mine. I loathe pop culture in contemporary fiction feel like it's a shortcut that doesn't work. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:03 am

@BonnieAdamson: I write historical novels. :-) #kidlitchat

April 4, 2012, 1:03 am

@gregpincus: @JulieFHedlund Is it an issue for illustrators in PBs, though? #Kidlitchat

April 4, 2012, 1:04 am

@Becky_AS: For the most part, I ignore it. I feel most references would date the story pretty quickly. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:05 am

@lisabrowndraws: Me too. This is interesting. I started to wonder if my love of historical fict... RT @BonnieAdamson: I write historical novels #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:05 am

@BonnieAdamson: @gregpincus Yes--clothes, especially. #Kidlitchat

April 4, 2012, 1:05 am

@susanwrites: Whew! Made it to chat for the first time in ages. I deal with pop culture in my work by not referencing it. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:06 am

@stein_valerie: RT @Becky_AS: For the most part, I ignore it. I feel most references would date the story pretty quickly. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:06 am

@JulieFHedlund: @gregpincus Yes, it probably is an issue for illustrators. It can be for PB writers too, dep. on subject. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:06 am

@lisabrowndraws: is precisely BECAUSE of the lack of pop culture. That is, culture that is familiar. It removes that whole thing from the mix. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:06 am

@WendyMartinArt: One of my WIP uses texting very hard trying to format that conversation #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:06 am

@deegarretson: I mostly ignore pop culture, though I did make a reference to Star Wars in one book, because characters are Star Wars-obsessed #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:06 am

@JulieFHedlund: It must be hard to ignore them now especially - what with email, texting, Facebook, etc. that are so key in kids' lives #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:07 am

@EgmontUSA: Hi #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:07 am

@lisabrowndraws: Think it's OK to ref. pop culture if there's a specific reason for a specific reference, not just as backgrd flavor. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:07 am

@JulieFHedlund: Funny - I just now realized I have song references used as puns in one of my PBs. So I guess it IS an issue - LOL! #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:08 am

@lisabrowndraws: Yes: object vs brand name. RT @susanwrites: I might make a reference to a cell phone or a text, but nothing by name like FB #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:09 am

@taralazar: In my MG I try to focus on things that are similar for all generations: riding bikes rather than playing on the iPod Touch. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:09 am

@Cinnamon_Quill: *peeks in* #kidlitchat

April 4, 2012, 1:10 am

@JulieFHedlund: MT @taralazar: In my MG I focus on things that are similar for all generations: riding bikes rather than playing on iPod Touch. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:10 am

@gregpincus: I think pop culture references are safer in any book set in the past. Brand names mattered, even if gone later. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:10 am

@lisabrowndraws: @Gwenda But what if your readers don't know your reference? Then they won't get it at all. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:10 am

@JulieFHedlund: Writers have long used others' books as references in their own, so why not songs, movies, games too?? #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:10 am

@BonnieAdamson: @lisabrowndraws I do think that's one of the attractions for me--I consciously chose a pre-electric time period. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:10 am

@katblack_: I ignore as well. Easy in the first ones, they're historical. But current is contempt. thriller. harder. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:10 am

@delzey: so at what point does pop culture become ubiquitous? star wars can be referenced today but not everything from 1977! #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:11 am

@taralazar: Judy Blume was so good in making her books timeless. She didn't talk about fads or even clothing...maybe one reference to shoes? #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:11 am

@Gwenda: I think often these are the things that date a book least. That tends to be style, more than references, imo. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:12 am

@Becky_AS: @taralazar Do kids really still ride bikes?? Just kidding. Kinda. #Kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:12 am

@lisabrowndraws: @taralazar But then there's the big technology shifts: they had to rewrite Are You There God to omit sanitary belts #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:12 am

@stein_valerie: RT @JulieFHedlund: Writers have long used others' books as references in their own, so why not songs, movies, games too?? #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:12 am

@deegarretson: @delzey probably not much from '77 besides Star Wars. I used it because kids still play with Star Wars legos and action figures #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:13 am

@Gwenda: I always recommend Simone Howell's Notes from the Teenage Underground as a great example of era-spanning refs. Lots of '60s. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:13 am

@BonnieAdamson: @delzey It's what enters the lexicon--I had heard of "zoot suits" from parents, tho considerably before my time, I understood #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:13 am

@Gwenda: Many TV/movies available forever now. & I always ask if character might still listen to same music in five years. If so, okay. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:14 am

@lisabrowndraws: I think it's better to make stuff up. Make up a teen idol instead of saying "Justin Bieber," then everyone knows what you mean. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:15 am

@LaurelSnyder: Just coming in. Love this thread. #kidlitchat

April 4, 2012, 1:15 am

@katblack_: It really depends on what you're writing and if it's integral.n #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:15 am

@coachhays64: @WendyMartinArt I'm working on trying to format txt conversations as we speak. Have no clue, so writing...draft...like...this... #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:15 am

@lisabrowndraws: i know, RIGHT? RT @LaurelSnyder: Just coming in. Love this thread. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:15 am

@deegarretson: even in historical fiction, probably best to weave in an explanation of a popular reference for the time #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:15 am

@taralazar: @Becky_AS LOL. They do around here at least! We live in a planned community with lots of paths. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:16 am

@Becky_AS: @lisabrowndraws Agreed! #kidlitchat

April 4, 2012, 1:16 am

@JulieFHedlund: @BonnieAdamson is right about lexicon. Even if no pop culture is mentioned, can often date a book by forms of speech/slang. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:16 am

@LaurelSnyder: I feel like all books have a historical context, so details should be important, but a book deaing "dated" is ok. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:16 am

@lisabrowndraws: Tho I think that's different because the books is trying to be contemporary, not a period (ahem) piece. RT @taralazar: OMG, yes! #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:16 am

@Gwenda: (Can you tell my f/c book has refs? Have thought about this lots. The characters wouldn't feel right w/out; they're nerds.) #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:16 am

@JulieFHedlund: @taralazar @Becky_AS My kids ride bikes every day they can. :-) #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:16 am

@stein_valerie: RT @deegarretson: even in historical fiction, probably best to weave in an explanation of a popular reference for the time #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:17 am

@WendyMartinArt: @coachhays64 I figured it out with a new " " type thing. << >> instead of "" #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:17 am

@deegarretson: thought of another example-I mentioned the movie E.T. in book 2, but MC referred to it as an "old movie" #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:17 am

@Dfg: Pokes head in #kidlitchat I heard there was a party going on here.
April 4, 2012, 1:17 am

@taralazar: Anyone read NEIL ARMSTRONG IS MY UNCLE? Summer of '69...very well done. Pop culture references but also a timeless tale. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:17 am

@ixtumea: What's the topic? #kidlitchat

April 4, 2012, 1:17 am

@word_working: Would like a timeless feel, so there is no mention of cellphones (ref to 'phones' only), Internet, texting, iPods. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:17 am

@gregpincus: @Gwenda I think this is a key thing - some characters would seem unreal if they aren't plugged into the "now" of their world #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:18 am

@stolemyusername: RT @Dfg: Pokes head in #kidlitchat I heard there was a party going on here.
April 4, 2012, 1:18 am

@Gwenda: @lisabrowndraws Kids are smart. Context. I loved finding new things from books as a YA. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:18 am

@BonnieAdamson: @ixtumea pop culture references in your work #kidlitchat

April 4, 2012, 1:18 am

@delzey: the thing is, i don't know that there's enough commonly shared pop (mono)culture to reference anymore, its so diverse now #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:18 am

@deegarretson: @delzey ack! too many memories! I'd like to forget some of them :) #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:18 am

@Dfg: @ixtumea #kidlitchat The topic today is "Justin Beiber Latest single"
April 4, 2012, 1:18 am

@taralazar: @taralazar Meaning that if you took out the '69 references it felt like TODAY. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:18 am

@EgmontUSA: Trying to think the best way for me to weigh in on the topic. . . . It's such a project by project thing. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:18 am

@katblack_: @Dfg come on inn #kidlitchat

April 4, 2012, 1:18 am

@Dfg: @katblack_ #kidlitchat Don't mind if I do :)

April 4, 2012, 1:18 am

@BonnieAdamson: @EgmontUSA I guess it just has to ring true . . . #kidlitchat

April 4, 2012, 1:18 am

@Gwenda: @gregpincus It's true. You don't want to leave out a swathe of the characters' life out of fear. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:19 am

@taralazar: @lisabrowndraws Ooooh, you are funny. #kidlitchat

April 4, 2012, 1:19 am

@EgmontUSA: @BonnieAdamson Definitely. #kidlitchat

April 4, 2012, 1:19 am

@ixtumea: While my upcoming book has a teen who's obsessed with anything with Audrey Hepburn #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:19 am

@EgmontUSA: @ixtumea She's an icon. A timeless one. Nothing dated about that. :) #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:20 am

@lisabrowndraws: @Gwenda It's definitely a balance. Too many pop refs and the work feels dated and shallow. Not any, it can be lost in time. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:20 am

@LaurelSnyder: Dropping references doesn't buy you "cred" w/kids. That's a cheap trick. Kids see through it. But refs can also be meaningful. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:20 am

@Marty_Chan: Pop culture references in kid lit = trending topics on Twitter. Great snapshot of moment, but quickly forgotten. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:20 am

@BonnieAdamson: @ixtumea I've got a draft of a modern character who likes movie musicals --I get to sneak in references to favorites #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:20 am

@katblack_: I've read a couple of novels where the mention is so old it dates the author. Careful. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:20 am

@stein_valerie: RT @Gwenda: @lisabrowndraws Kids are smart. Context. I loved finding new things from books as a YA. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:21 am

@ixtumea: @EgmontUSA Yes, that's what I think too though you'd be surprised at how many ppl told me to take her out as teens wouldn't . #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:21 am

@lisabrowndraws: @LaurelSnyder You are talking about a particular Springsteen song, aren't you? #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:21 am

@Gwenda: @lisabrowndraws Yes. They can't be references for refs sake. They have to mean something to the character (and to the story). #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:21 am

@ixtumea: @EgmontUSA know who she was. I'm like, uh, Blair on GG obsesses about her too. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:21 am

@stein_valerie: @Gwenda: @gregpincus It's true. You don't want to leave out a swathe of the characters' life out of fear. #kidlitchat Yes! Must be real.
April 4, 2012, 1:21 am

@Cinnamon_Quill: Sometimes pop culture references make a book feel more tangible to the reader but I agree, often it is just off-putting. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:21 am

@LaurelSnyder: @lisabrowndraws Lol. No. I just mean that details are TEXTURE. They can work for the book if they're not arbitrary. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:22 am

@lisabrowndraws: RT @Gwenda: They can't be references for refs sake. They have to mean something to the character (and to the story). #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:22 am

@EgmontUSA: @ixtumea I think there's a specific time in your life - maybe in your early teens - when you fall under Audrey's spell. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:22 am

@LaurelSnyder: @lisabrowndraws That was a weird case where it made NO sense to include it, but I had to. I knew the kids didn't care. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:22 am

@ixtumea: But then again there is a danger of going overboard. I've read more than a few books like that. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:22 am

@Gwenda: It's like anything else, it must be done thoughtfully. (Also, basically, everything is pop culture now. ;) #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:22 am

@EgmontUSA: @ixtumea That's like saying teens don't know who Marilyn Monroe is. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:22 am

@Cinnamon_Quill: If there is some substance behind it, it means more to the book and to the reader. Otherwise it's just fluff/a jutting nuisance. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:23 am

@gregpincus: Sorry to dash off from #kidlitchat, y'all. I try never to let life happen on Tuesdays, but sometimes it does! See you next week!
April 4, 2012, 1:23 am

@ixtumea: @EgmontUSA Very true! #kidlitchat

April 4, 2012, 1:23 am

@coachhays64: @gregpincus Brand reference help build the world."The girl wearing rainbow-striped leg warmers drank a Coke Classic." =1980's #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:23 am

@lisabrowndraws: What's funny is that I have tons of culture refs in my historical novel, but they don't bother me because they aren't "pop." #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:23 am

@LaurelSnyder: So if using refs, maybe ask yourself, "WHY do I want to include this? What am I getting at thematically? Or abt the character?" #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:23 am

@BonnieAdamson: @gregpincus goodnight, Greg--enjoy this thing called life . . . #kidlitchat

April 4, 2012, 1:23 am

@WendyMartinArt: @gregpincus night #kidlitchat

April 4, 2012, 1:23 am

@lisabrowndraws: though they would be pop culture if I lived in the 19th century. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:24 am

@LaurelSnyder: @coachhays64 But this is false. Nobody ever said, "I am drinking a Coke Classic!" They might have a convo abt how gross it was. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:24 am

@ixtumea: There's one series that uses tons of British pop references and I'm like, "What is that?" #kidlitchat

April 4, 2012, 1:24 am

@ixtumea: @LaurelSnyder Ooh, Coke Classic! LOL. #kidlitchat

April 4, 2012, 1:25 am

@LaurelSnyder: @lisabrowndraws Well, and after a short window of time, these "dated" refs will all become "historical details." Eh? #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:25 am

@EgmontUSA: @delzey But I bet if you hummed or sang certain songs, they'd know the songs. It's about making the links. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:25 am

@deegarretson: @ixtumea ref. to Audrey Hepburn would totally work if character had to explain her to someone who didn't know #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:25 am

@ixtumea: @LaurelSnyder Or watching BACK TO THE FUTURE and seeing those huge cellphones. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:25 am

@Gwenda: I find that a lot of works I come back to again and again are very specific. You can worry too much and be too vague, general. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:25 am

@lisabrowndraws: That's what I'm sayin' RT @LaurelSnyder: after a short window of time, these "dated" refs will all become "historical details." #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:25 am

@ixtumea: And Madonna has a new cologne. Go figure. #kidlitchat

April 4, 2012, 1:25 am

@EgmontUSA: @ixtumea But how much of that is Americans not being aware of British slang and products? #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:26 am

@Cinnamon_Quill: Of course, sometimes if a book references something you don't know but interests you, you can discover something great. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:26 am

@susanjsteward: @LaurelSnyder Agree--to many pop references and too little substance is the difference between "Now and Then" and "Stand By Me." #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:26 am

@Gwenda: As a teen, I liked being clued into new stuff by the things I read. I wasn't frustrated not to "know" everything immediately. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:26 am

@delzey: right, they said "i'm never drinking coke again!" @LaurelSnyder Nobody ever said, "I am drinking a Coke Classic!" #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:26 am

@ixtumea: @EgmontUSA It was really jarring to me. I had to keep looking up the terms. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:26 am

@EgmontUSA: @ixtumea Don't you think there are some American references that the Brits are saying "Umm, huh?" about, too? #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:26 am

@Cinnamon_Quill: I think if a young reader likes what a character might also like (music/books etc) then it gives another level to connect. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:27 am

@maggiedana: Maybe this is where refs to ancient Greeks and Shakespeare characters come in handy. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:27 am

@ixtumea: RT @EgmontUSA: @ixtumea Don't you think there are some American references that the Brits are saying "Umm, huh?" about, too? #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:27 am

@ixtumea: @EgmontUSA Yes, I do. #kidlitchat

April 4, 2012, 1:27 am

@Gwenda: It's top-level culture, generic stuff that always feels spackle-y to me. If it fits characters/world, I'm good. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:27 am

@coachhays64: @LaurelSnyder There was definitely a difference back in the day between New Coke & Coke Classic. Coke Classic was old school. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:28 am

@susanjsteward: @EgmontUSA Have a friend whose book was changed when pubbed overseas, in that regard. Even place names changed to be local. :( #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:28 am

@lisabrowndraws: Then again, the 80s are historical fiction. #godi'mold RT @LaurelSnyder Nobody ever said, "I am drinking a Coke Classic!" #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:28 am

@KristineAsselin: Trying to lurk on #indiechat and #kidlitchat at the same time...::waves:: #indiechat
April 4, 2012, 1:28 am

@Becky_AS: Where is the line between pop references and just brand name dropping (which too much of annoys me in any book) #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:28 am

@Cinnamon_Quill: @EgmontUSA It's when publishers change terms/references in a Brit book to American ones (or vice versa) that bothers me. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:28 am

@delzey: RT @Gwenda I liked being clued into new stuff by the things I read. I wasn't frustrated not to "know" everything immediately. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:28 am

@word_working: While I avoid tech-y ref's, I have a thread about classic Hollywood films & stars (one char is named for Tallulah Bankhead -!). #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:29 am

@EgmontUSA: @Cinnamon_Quill Even if it's necessary? If it's done well, you shouldn't even notice. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:29 am

@lisabrowndraws: You should ask yourself if readers will understand the flavor of what you mean even if they don't know the reference. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:29 am

@delzey: @Gwenda that said, sometimes kids read an unfamiliar references as an author-invented one, e.g. band names #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:30 am

@Gwenda: @Becky_AS I almost think of brands as a different thing; must be used even more carefully. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:30 am

@Cinnamon_Quill: @EgmontUSA Why would it be necessary to make a young reader think Brits use American words than allow them to learn new things? #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:30 am

@stein_valerie: @EgmontUSA: @Cinnamon_Quill Even if it's necessary? If it's done well, you shouldn't even notice. #kidlitchat Why should it be necessary?
April 4, 2012, 1:30 am

@rachelnseigel: @ixtumea @EgmontUSA Coming in late, but I read a British book that had me scratching my head at a slang term. Had to Google it. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:30 am

@ixtumea: @rachelnseigel @egmontusa Wonder if it's the same series I tried to read. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:31 am

@Gwenda: @delzey But we have the miracle of google! So if they're curious, is easy. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:31 am

@EgmontUSA: @Cinnamon_Quill Because it's as much about making a book accessible to a reader as stretching them. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:31 am

@rachelnseigel: @ixtumea @egmontusa This wasn't part of a series- a one off. Turned out the word was a bit outdated, and has no direct #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:31 am

@delzey: slang. there's a whole new ball of wax! #kidlitchat

April 4, 2012, 1:31 am

@rachelnseigel: @ixtumea @egmontusa American English counterpart. #kidlitchat

April 4, 2012, 1:32 am

@Gwenda: @lisabrowndraws This is an excellent point. Context is everything. #kidlitchat

April 4, 2012, 1:32 am

@Cinnamon_Quill: @EgmontUSA In Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone they changed "toilet" to "bathroom." Don't Americans know what a toilet is? #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:32 am

@lisabrowndraws: Indeedy RT @delzey: slang. there's a whole new ball of wax! #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:32 am

@maggiedana: @Cinnamon_Quill Joanna Trollope's US editor changed "his honor's TOTTY" to "his honor's HONEY." Bad move. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:32 am

@EgmontUSA: @Cinnamon_Quill If a kid gets too frustrated, they won't come back to the book. It's a balance. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:32 am

@Gwenda: @delzey An even trickier one, I think! Avoid unless genius at it. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:32 am

@ixtumea: I did purchase one of the Harry Potter books from the UK & there were some words that I didn't get but over all? No big deal. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:33 am

@lisabrowndraws: A what? RT @Cinnamon_Quill: @EgmontUSA Sorcerer's Stone changed "toilet" to "bathroom." Don't Americans know what a toilet is? #kidlitchat

April 4, 2012, 1:33 am

@delzey: @Gwenda actually, my teens first go-to for cultural stuff is youtube. google they don't trust, and wiki feels like homework #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:33 am

@rachelnseigel: @ixtumea @egmontusa I think what threw me was that the boy's mother was using the word! #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:33 am

@susanjsteward: @Cinnamon_Quill Agree. Learned so much as a kid by reading books set in other cultures. So glad they didn't "Americanize" them. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:33 am

@delzey: @Gwenda (like chance the gardener, my girls like to watch) #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:33 am

@maggiedana: @Cinnamon_Quill Am surprised it wasn't "lavatory" to "bathroom." Yanks totally cringe over lavatories. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:33 am

@Gwenda: @delzey Even better for band refs then. #kidlitchat

April 4, 2012, 1:33 am

@Gwenda: @delzey Ha! I got your reference, and I LOVE it. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:34 am

@deegarretson: @Cinnamon_Quill I had no idea they changed words in HP, now I want to read the UK versions #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:34 am

@Cinnamon_Quill: @susanjsteward I just think not being British or American but still an English speaker that it's weird and a little stunting. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:34 am

@RKCharron: @ixtumea References are also great for setting a scene (imagery), or time. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:35 am

@EgmontUSA: @Cinnamon_Quill I can't argue for the right Americanization choices or the wrong ones. But there are instances where it's nec. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:35 am

@Cinnamon_Quill: @deegarretson I was really depressed when I learned that the UK HP ebooks are NOT available to the US. TT_TT #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:35 am

@lisabrowndraws: But you don't want to have to read every book with one eye in the web, looking up stuff. Something about the flow of reading #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:35 am

@delzey: @Gwenda glad the reference wasn't lost, hoped you'd get it ;) #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:35 am

@deegarretson: @delzey now you are getting really obscure except for us movie fanatics #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:35 am

@maggiedana: @ixtumea: Brits and Americans are divided by a common language. Sometimes a glossary is needed! #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:36 am

@Gwenda: @RosanneParry Everything can't be for every kid, I guess. I was a geek, liked the "false expertise" I picked up in fantasy. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:36 am

@Mike_Jung: Hey all. What's the topic? #Kidlitchat

April 4, 2012, 1:36 am

@Dfg: @Mike_Jung #Kidlitchat "Asian Summon Writing Style"

April 4, 2012, 1:36 am

@story_queen: @Cinnamon_Quill @EgmontUSA Also title change from Philosopher to Sorcerer. Guess we have problems with toilets AND philosophy. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:36 am

@RosanneParry: @EgmontUSA @Cinnamon_Quill Yes! Calling a cigarette a fag, for example. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:37 am

@delzey: @deegarretson yeah. this time of yeat i have to catch myself wanting to go around saying "there will be growth in the spring" #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:37 am

@rachelnseigel: @story_queen @Cinnamon_Quill @EgmontUSA I remember hearing that they changed it because they didn't think American audiences #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:37 am

@lisabrowndraws: Pop culture refs in one's work: yea or nay? RT @Mike_Jung: Hey all. What's the topic? #Kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:37 am

@story_queen: Yay! For the first time this month, I didn't miss #kidlitchat!
April 4, 2012, 1:37 am

@rachelnseigel: @story_queen @Cinnamon_Quill @EgmontUSA would understand what a Philospher's stone is. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:37 am

@Cinnamon_Quill: @story_queen THAT makes me cringe, 'cause J.K. Rowling didn't make up the philosopher's stone or Nicholas Flamel. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:37 am

@Gwenda: @RosanneParry To me, a good book gives the reader a way in. Won't work for every reader, but is there. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:37 am

@Dfg: @story_queen #kidlitchat Here have a cookie

April 4, 2012, 1:37 am

@himissjulie: RT @delzey: @Gwenda (like chance the gardener, my girls like to watch) #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:38 am

@Cinnamon_Quill: @rachelnseigel It's funny 'cause most Americans know about the philosopher's stone from watching Fullmetal Alchemist, an anime. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:38 am

@story_queen: @maggiedana Hahaha! But if we have trouble with toilets, I can't imagine what we would to with a loo! #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:39 am

@rachelnseigel: @Cinnamon_Quill I generally think we don't give kids (or adults) enough credit 4 their abilities to decode unfamiliar words. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:39 am

@RosanneParry: @Gwenda Agreed. Some kids are just more sensitive to the feeling out of the game aspect. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:39 am

@story_queen: @Dfg Thank you! If there ever was a day I needed a cookie, 'twas today. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:39 am

@EgmontUSA: @RosanneParry Exactly! Or pants! Pants means underwear in the UK. So it would cause great confusion w/o the change. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:39 am

@maggiedana: RT @story_queen: But if we have trouble with toilets, I cant imagine what we would to with a loo! // Hopefully, pull the chain. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:39 am

@literaticat: @Cinnamon_Quill But the thing is ... MOST American's DIDN'T watch fullmetal alchemist. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:40 am

@rachelnseigel: @literaticat @Cinnamon_Quill Was Anime even popular or main stream when HP 1 was published in the U.S.? #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:40 am

@story_queen: @Cinnamon_Quill I know! I directed a student to read The Alchemist and he was shocked to know that N. Flamel was real. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:40 am

@Cinnamon_Quill: Does @EgmontUSA Americanize any of its UK books' culture references? Just curious. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:40 am

@literaticat: @EgmontUSA @rosanneparry -- and falling on your fanny has a v

different meaning in the UK than here too. (OUCH.) #kidlitchat

April 4, 2012, 1:40 am

@Cinnamon_Quill: @literaticat SHAME ON THEM. #kidlitchat

April 4, 2012, 1:40 am

@lisabrowndraws: Unfamiliar words are different from pop culture references. One is vocab, the other cultural knowledge. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:40 am

@stein_valerie: @maggiedana: @ixtumea: Brits &Americans divided by common lang. Sometimes glossary needed! #kidlitchat" OK to let kids infer from context.
April 4, 2012, 1:41 am

@AncientEditor: Spellings such as colour and grey feel richer to me. Actually "grey" seems a moister more heather-friendly color than "gray" #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:41 am

@Cinnamon_Quill: I don't think I was familiar with the words "snog" or "grin" before I read the HP books. Now I love those words! #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:41 am

@stein_valerie: RT @maggiedana: @story_queen Mmmm ... thoughts on new title: The Philosopher's Loo? #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:41 am

@story_queen: @literaticat @EgmontUSA @rosanneparry Oh yes...yikes. #kidlitchat

April 4, 2012, 1:41 am

@ixtumea: @stein_valerie It's ok to infer from context unless it's way over the top. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:42 am

@Cinnamon_Quill: @rachelnseigel No, the FMA anime was way after the Sorcerer's Stone publication. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:42 am

@rachelnseigel: @Cinnamon_Quill I learned about that from Louise Rennison. #kidlitchat

April 4, 2012, 1:42 am

@Mike_Jung: I think words like "toilet" were changed in HP because they're so clearly read with a different meaning in US English. #Kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:42 am

@maggiedana: @Cinnamon_Quill Snogging? Hell, I did that a hundred years ago ... in England. It's quite delicious, BTW. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:42 am

@ixtumea: @rachelnseigel Yes, Louise Rennison. Loved her voice but after a way I had a really hard time with her British slang. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:42 am

@v_kyriakakis: Ooo... I've made it in time for #kidlitchat. Hooray! What's the topic today? #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:42 am

@rachelnseigel: @Cinnamon_Quill That's what I thought. Still...I don't think I knew what a Sorcerer's stone was anymore than philsophers. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:43 am

@Cinnamon_Quill: @rachelnseigel :D The Georgia books? I need to get back into those. Read the first 4 or so. Some of those titles were changed. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:43 am

@delzey: 1/2 does anyone remember when john green asked nerdfighters whether they thought facebook or myspace would still be around? #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:43 am

@lisabrowndraws: Does "grin" mean something other than smile? RT @Cinnamon_Quill: I don't think I was familiar with the words "snog" or "grin". #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:43 am

@EgmontUSA: @Cinnamon_Quill We're more likely to Americanize middle grade than YA, and then it's only for specific problematic phrases. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:43 am

@Cinnamon_Quill: @maggiedana I think the deliciousness would depend on who you were snogging. ;) #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:43 am

@maggiedana: RT @v_kyriakakis: Ooo... Ive made it in time for #kidlitchat. Hooray! Whats the topic today? // Snogging. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:43 am

@rachelnseigel: @Cinnamon_Quill Wer'e lucky in Canada that we get many British books direct from the British publishers. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:43 am

@story_queen: @rachelnseigel @Cinnamon_Quill Love Louise Rennison! I wish Georgia had been around when I was tween/teen. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:43 am

@Mike_Jung: Something like "snog" is different - it's an unfamiliar word, as opposed to a word that's commonly used in a different way. #Kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:43 am

@delzey: 2/2 he was working on PAPER TOWNS i think and wasn't sure which one to reference. an interesting point to this question. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:44 am

@stein_valerie: @ixtumea #kidlitchat True. In kid lit, new language needn't be over top; kids are smarter than sometimes American publishers think. IMHO.
April 4, 2012, 1:44 am

@rachelnseigel: @story_queen @Cinnamon_Quill Me too! She's hilarious! Was a whole slew of Teenage "Bridget Jones" for a while. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:44 am

@Cinnamon_Quill: @EgmontUSA It's just there is one Edmont book I was curious about on that matter but I've not been able to check. ;) #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:44 am

@EgmontUSA: @Cinnamon_Quill Ask. I'll be honest. #kidlitchat

April 4, 2012, 1:44 am

@Cinnamon_Quill: @rachelnseigel Yeah, we got the UK books in NZ but they're SO expensive. US has cheepies. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:45 am

@lisabrowndraws: Def to the point. Things get obsolete v. quickly these days. RT @delzey: an interesting point to this question. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:45 am

@EgmontUSA: @literaticat Thanks, Jenn! #kidlitchat

April 4, 2012, 1:45 am

@Cinnamon_Quill: @rachelnseigel I think of Georgia as a sort of teenage Bridget Jones meets Adrian Mole. #kidlitchat

April 4, 2012, 1:46 am

@literaticat: @EgmontUSA er... for what? #kidlitchat

April 4, 2012, 1:46 am

@rachelnseigel: @Cinnamon_Quill The British editions do tend to be a bit pricier here too- but we don't get CDN rights on a lot of U.S. eds. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:46 am

@EgmontUSA: @Cinnamon_Quill I am the US editor, and I can tell you we did not. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:46 am

@v_kyriakakis: @maggiedana: Excellent. :) Snogging is a pleasurable passtime & also slang... am imagining the latter is what's up for chat...n #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:46 am

@story_queen: @rachelnseigel @Cinnamon_Quill I REALLY could have used her! #kidlitchat

April 4, 2012, 1:46 am

@EgmontUSA: @literaticat You're example of why Americanization sometimes matters. #kidlitchat

April 4, 2012, 1:46 am

@ixtumea: RT @EgmontUSA: @literaticat You're example of why Americanization sometimes matters. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:46 am

@rachelnseigel: @EgmontUSA @Cinnamon_Quill It was a different title for the American edition though right? #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:46 am

@Cinnamon_Quill: @EgmontUSA n_n Yay, I am pleased. #kidlitchat

April 4, 2012, 1:46 am

@rachelnseigel: @story_queen @Cinnamon_Quill She would have been better than the Wakefield twins- that's 4 sure! ;-) #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:47 am

@literaticat: @EgmontUSA ah yes. i'd say that there are a few especially problematic ones. lol. I KNEW WHAT YOU MEANT. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:47 am

@Groeneinkt: @lisabrowndraws @Cinnamon_Quill @EgmontUSA Don't forget they also changed it from philosopher's stone to sorceror's stone. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:47 am

@delzey: in NYC in dec and the girls asked why there were banks of payphones. "can't people just use their own (cell) phones?" #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:47 am

@maggiedana: @v_kyriakakis Yes ... Brit/Yank slangfest going on here. Great fun. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:47 am

@EgmontUSA: @rachelnseigel Yes. But it was for searching purposes. Per our sales team, a numeral causes trouble for search. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:47 am

@Cinnamon_Quill: @rachelnseigel There are different titles for the first book (0.4/Human.4) and the sequel that's coming out.(1.4 and...I forgot) #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:47 am

@rachelnseigel: @Cinnamon_Quill Thought so. I read the British edition. We don't get the U.S. Edition in Canada. Go to Egmont UK 4 it. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:48 am

@EgmontUSA: @literaticat Well, thank you for being you? For cute pictures of Moxie? #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:48 am

@Cinnamon_Quill: @Groeneinkt I can never forget. I hate the title "Sorcerer's Stone" *fends off with very very very long pole* #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:48 am

@RubyRoss2: @Mike_Jung True, like the common Brit expression: "Let's go have a fag in the loo" (meaning, lets have a smoke in the bathroom.) #Kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:48 am

@EgmontUSA: @Cinnamon_Quill The Future We Left Behind. Again, it was the search term thing. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:48 am

@delzey: saddest pop culture thing e had to explain to the girls recently: mix tapes, and why they were better than CD's or playlists #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:49 am

@Cinnamon_Quill: @rachelnseigel I'll be getting the sequel from Egmont UK but ONLY 'cause it's being released earlier. :P #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:49 am

@literaticat: @EgmontUSA YOU ARE WELCOME. now buy a book from me, so we can DISCUSS IT HERE. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:49 am

@ixtumea: RT @literaticat: @EgmontUSA YOU ARE WELCOME. now buy a book

from me, so we can DISCUSS IT HERE. #kidlitchat

April 4, 2012, 1:49 am

@Cinnamon_Quill: @EgmontUSA That's a pretty awesome title, though. :) #kidlitchat

April 4, 2012, 1:49 am

@EgmontUSA: @literaticat I'm trying! Buries head in Kindle. #kidlitchat

April 4, 2012, 1:49 am

@maggiedana: @RubyRoss2 This Brit expression would leave American's breathless and groping for a PC rejoinder, or a dictionary. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:50 am

@rachelnseigel: @Cinnamon_Quill That's the only frustrating thing- knowing that some books release earlier in the U.K. b4 we can get them! #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:50 am

@Becky_AS: @delzey And WHY were they better? :) #kidlitchat

April 4, 2012, 1:50 am

@Mike_Jung: @RubyRoss2 Exactly! Everyday talk in British English that would forcibly pull a US reader right out of the story. #Kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:50 am

@ixtumea: @EgmontUSA @literaticat Jenn's clients have like the best books. I'm not prejudice or anything. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:50 am

@EgmontUSA: @Cinnamon_Quill That's because @mikealancaster is a genius and a sport. #kidlitchat

April 4, 2012, 1:50 am

@literaticat: @ixtumea IT'S TRUE. LISTEN TO HER, @EgmontUSA !! ;-) #kidlitchat

April 4, 2012, 1:51 am

@RosanneParry: I'm curious has anyone been asked to take a pop culture ref. out in editing? Was a reason given? #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:51 am

@susanjsteward: @Mike_Jung I'll never stop insisting that kids can and will adapt and we're doing them a disservice by not letting them try. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:51 am

@delzey: @Becky_AS *sputters* #kidlitchat

April 4, 2012, 1:51 am

@PaulWHankins: Brett Easton Ellis made a career out of books with heavy pop culture references. If you needed a strong example (wink). #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:51 am

@EgmontUSA: @literaticat @ixtumea I know this. It's not up for debate. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:51 am

@Cinnamon_Quill: @EgmontUSA I got 0.4/Human.4 in paperback, ebook and audiobook. :D I'm super excited for the sequel!!! #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:51 am

@delzey: @Becky_AS (please tell me you were kidding.) #kidlitchat

April 4, 2012, 1:52 am

@Mike_Jung: Now, I actually prefer "philosopher's stone" over "sorcerer's stone," but again, I understand why the change was made. #Kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:52 am

@lisabrowndraws: And meh. RT @PaulWHankins: Brett Easton Ellis made a career out of books with heavy pop culture references. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:52 am

@EgmontUSA: @Cinnamon_Quill I will say that I think it's even better. It makes me paranoid. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:52 am

@susanjsteward: @Mike_Jung To me, it seems like a very commercial decision to adapt a work so "local" children will more easily relate. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:52 am

@rachelnseigel: @Cinnamon_Quill That is frustrating! I doubt if a lot of the Britkidlit makes it to our chain store shelves- but I love it! #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:52 am

@RubyRoss2: @Mike_Jung True! Still, even tho I've been in Canada for yonks (a long time!) I still call people "tossers" and "wankers," etc! #Kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:52 am

@coachhays64: @delzey Were you successful at explaining why mix tapes were better? My go to answer to my kids is "Guess you had to be there." #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:53 am

@AuthoressAnon: LOL *love* RT @literaticat: @EgmontUSA YOU ARE WELCOME. now buy a book from me, so we can DISCUSS IT HERE. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:54 am

@Cinnamon_Quill: @EgmontUSA Oh my. I was transfixed when I read 0.4. It's such a brilliant insight into what defines humanity. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:54 am

@Becky_AS: @delzey Better than playlists, though? Come on? How much better is it to

download and burn?? :) The endless possibilities... #kidlitchat

April 4, 2012, 1:54 am

@Mike_Jung: @susanjsteward Of course! And I don't think HP had 100% of the Brit stripped out of it. #Kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:54 am

@lisabrowndraws: @coachhays64 @delzey because you HAD to listen in the order it was intended. And the wonderful cover design opportunities. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:54 am

@delzey: @coachhays64 we were NOT successful on the grounds that neither is old enuf to have crushed on anyone hard enuf to understand #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:54 am

@Cinnamon_Quill: In Philosopher's Stone ch7, it says "three more people to be sorted" but lists FOUR characters 'cause they included Dean. #fail #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:54 am

@PaulWHankins: @lisabrowndraws I added the wink. Though the genius of pop culture references in AMERICAN PSYCHO make the book a mentor text. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:54 am

@ixtumea: Well, all the books Jenn recommends to me I totally love. @literaticat @egmontUSA #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:54 am

@EgmontUSA: @Cinnamon_Quill May I ask if you've read Em Bailey's SHIFT? Another Egmont shared project that I adore. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:55 am

@susanjsteward: @Mike_Jung Yep. I'm just stubborn about any changes, having grown up reading lots of Brit kid lit. #kidlitchat

April 4, 2012, 1:55 am

@literaticat: @susanjsteward Out of curiosity... what is wrong with making commercial decisions that will help children relate? :-) @mike_jung #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:55 am

@ixtumea: And ditto with @EgmontUSA They recommend a book to me. Love it. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:55 am

@Cinnamon_Quill: I mean in Sorcerer's Stone :P not Philosopher's Stone. The UK book didn't mention Dean but the Americans wanted to include him. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:55 am

@Gwenda: @lisabrowndraws @coachhays64 @delzey I miss mixtapes. (Can't really play the ones I still have, but I look at them fondly.) #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:55 am

@maggiedana: Best way to read HP is in English/English with single dialogue quotes. That way, you know you're getting the author's original. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:55 am

@lisabrowndraws: @PaulWHankins I got the wink, just making sure! And I guess that the references were the point. I respect that. #kidlitchat #stilldontloveit
April 4, 2012, 1:55 am

@EgmontUSA: @ixtumea Awww, I'm glad. I take great pride in matching books and readers. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:56 am

@Cinnamon_Quill: @EgmontUSA I have not. I shall have to look into it. :D #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:56 am

@susanjsteward: @literaticat Nothing commercially wrong with it at all. It aggravates me as a book-lover and educator b/c I want my students #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:56 am

@EgmontUSA: @Cinnamon_Quill It's quite creepy. From Hardie Grant Egmont. I highly recommend it. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:56 am

@ixtumea: @EgmontUSA I totally want SHADOWS and that one paranormal set in Milan. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:56 am

@lisabrowndraws: @Becky_AS @delzey Because you had to listen in the order it was made! Expressly for you #kidlitchat #longlivemixtapes
April 4, 2012, 1:57 am

@rachelnseigel: @EgmontUSA @Cinnamon_Quill I was going to pass on it, but on your recommendation I'll go back and take another look. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:57 am

@maggiedana: If today's kids don' know what 'takin' the piss means,' they've not caught up with their Monty Python. Blame their parents. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:57 am

@Mike_Jung: @literaticat @susanjsteward Nothing, I think. IMHO aiming for balance is entirely defensible, commercially and creatively. #Kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:57 am

@delzey: @Becky_AS this is way off topic, but it's not about endless possibilities, it's about care & artistry of compiling & sharing. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:57 am

@susanjsteward: @literaticat to be able to relate to a story even if the language takes a few footnotes or a short glossary. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:57 am

@lisabrowndraws: We kept our car w/tape player longer than we had to for that reason. RT @Gwenda: @lisabrowndraws @coachhays64 @delzey #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:58 am

@ixtumea: I think some adults don't realize how much kids do get from books. Kids are smarter than some ppl think. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:58 am

@stein_valerie: @susanjsteward @literaticat #kidlitchat Ditto! Don't want to shortchange students experience of learning.
April 4, 2012, 1:58 am

@v_kyriakakis: Yep! RT @susanjsteward: Ill never stop insisting that kids can and will adapt... #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:58 am

@rachelnseigel: @ixtumea I'm constantly amazed at how much knowledge I pick up from reading kids' books! #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:59 am

@susanjsteward: @Mike_Jung ...have had too much hand-holding, IMO. #kidlitchat

April 4, 2012, 1:59 am

@Cinnamon_Quill: @ixtumea No one likes being written down to, whether children or adult. The best books just focus on quality writing. :) #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:59 am

@Becky_AS: @delzey Clearly my appreciation is not as deep as yours. :) But then, no one ever made me a mix tape. #kidlitchat

April 4, 2012, 1:59 am

@literaticat: @RubyRoss2 Right... and Adrian Mole was published in this country with very little changed. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:59 am

@stein_valerie: RT @susanjsteward: @literaticat to be able to relate to a story even if the language takes a few footnotes or a short glossary. #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 1:59 am

@Mike_Jung: @susanjsteward Sure, but the desire for mass conformity isn't a reflection of balance. #Kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 2:00 am

@Cinnamon_Quill: @literaticat Is it bad that I read "very little changed" and immediately think,"They changed something?!" XD #kidlitchat
April 4, 2012, 2:00 am

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