Oling, Lane - GOV From: Wenwie, Cullen J - GOV Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 4:28 PM To: Tom Kertschet Subject: RE: Paid Union time for employees | don't understand your point on flexibility. Don't local governments already have flexibility, in that they can decide to agree in contracts to pay employees to do union work? Ina practical sense, they don't have that flexibility currently. It would have to be collectively bargained for as a piece of an entire contract package, Do you mean that, under the budget-repair bill, employees could no longer bargain for this provision in their contracts? Yes. Cullen Werwie Press Secretary Office of Governor Scott Walker Press Office: (608) 267-7303 Email: Cullen.Werwie@WI.Gov vwauw.walker.wi.gov Original Message- From: Tom Kertscher (mailto:TKERTSCHER@journalsentinel.com] Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2021 4:01 PM To: Werwie, Cullen J -GOV Subject: RE: Paid Union time for employees { don't understand your point on flexibility. Don't local governments already have flexibility, in that they can decide to agree in contracts to pay employees to do union work? Do you mean that, under the budget-repair bill, employees could ro longer bargain for this provision in their contracts? Tom Kertscher Reporter PolitiFact Wisconsin / Milwaukee Journal Sentinel (414) 224-2404 www. PolitiFactWisconsin.com www.JSOniine.com From: Werwie, Cullen J - GOV [Cullen Werwie@wisconsin.gov} Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2021 3:56 PM To: Tom Kertscher Subject: RE: Paid Union time for employees What effect would the budget-repair bill have on municipalities and the state paying employees for d It would give local units of government the flexibility to decide if using taxpayer funds for union activity is a wise use of resources when dealing with reductions in state aid.‘And | do have to take issue with your next question because | feel that it is way out of the scope of what you are fact checking. If am correct this is the reference you are looking at: Previously the Governor's office released these examples of the fiscal impact of collective bargaining: Paid-Time off for Union Activities In Milwaukee County alone, because the union collectively bargained for paid time off, fourteen employees receive salary and benefits for doing union business. Of the fourteen, three are on full-time release for union business. Milwaukee County spent over $170,000 in salary alone for these employees to only participate in union activities such as collective bargaining. This statement doesn't purport to make any claim about saving money in the current fiscal year, but was certainly meant to give an example (among many others contained in the release) that collective bargaining indeed has a fiscal impact (which is the paint of the release). | don't see what a question pertaining to nullifying current contracts has to do with this release. With that said here is our answer: Would the bill nullify current contracts that provide for such arrangements? No. Cullen Werwie Press Secretary Office of Governor Scott Walker Press Office: (608) 267-7303 Email: Cullen.Werwie@WI.Gov www.walker.wi.gov Original Message From: Tom Kertscher [mailto:TKERTSCHER @journalsentinel.com] Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 2:31 PM. To: Werwie, Cullen J -GOV Subject: Re: Paid Union time for employees Follow-up questions: What effect would the budget-repair bill have on municipalities and the state paying employees for doing union work? Would the bill nullify current contracts that provide for such arrangements? Sent from my iPhone On May 3, 2011, at 15 PM, "Werwie, Cullen J - GOV" wrote; >Tom- > > Sorry | was just away from my desk. Here is the contact info I have for Sue: > Sue Drummond, CPP > Payroll Manager > Milwaukee County > 901 N Sth Street Room 301 > Milwaukee WI 53233 > Office (414) 278-4359 > Cell> Cullen Werwie > Press Secretary > Office of Governor Scott Walker > Press Office: (608) 267-7303 > Email: Cullen. Werwie@WI.Gov > > winw.walker.wi.gov riginal Message > From: Tom Kertscher [maiito:TKERTSCHER @journalsentinel.com] > Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 4:21 PM >To: Werwie, Cullen J - GOV > Subject: Re: Paid Union time for employees > Ok. > > Sent from my iPhone > >On May 3, 2011, at 4:13 PM, "Werwie, Cullen J - GOV" ‘Cullen. Werwie @wisconsin.gov> wrote: > The person who did that analysis is out of the office this week, we are going to try and track that person down, but | don't know how soon I'l be able to do that, > > Illlet you know if we hear from her. Thanks, > > Cullen Werwie > Press Secretary > Office of Governor Scott Walker > Press Office: (608) 267-7303 > Email: Cullen.Werwie @WI.Gov > > chttp://www.walker.wi.gov/>www.walker.wi.govehttp://www-walker.wi.gov> > > From: Tom Kertscher [mailto:TKERTSCHER@journalsentinel.corn] > Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 11:22 AM >To: Werwie, CullenJ - GOV > Subject: FW: Paid Union time for employees > Importance: High > > Cullen: > Some questions on the analysis (which I've attached): > > >* Onthe first tab, "Union Reps with Union Release," the dollar amounts for employees in rows 12-27 match the ‘amounts in the spreadsheet that the county provided you (and that you forwarded to me). However, | do not see how the analysis arrived at the amounts for Eisner, Zunker and Hart (rows 32-34). > What | see from the county is: Eisner ~ $25,709.77; Zunker: $27,610.47 and $11,635.83; and Hart: $1,513.63 and $25,731.67.