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Gov. Romney CBS Interview - Health Care Excerpt

Gov. Romney CBS Interview - Health Care Excerpt

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Gov. Romney CBS Interview - Health Care Excerpt
 Amanda Henneberg [AHenneberg@mittromney.com]
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Wednesday, July 04, 2012 2:53 PM
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 Amanda Henneberg [AHenneberg@mittromney.com]
 
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!$Just$wanted$to$make$sure$you$saw$the$below$health$care$excerpt$from$Gov.$Romney’s$taped$interview$withCBS$today.$The$interview$will$air$on$CBS$tonight$and$tomorrow$morning.$I’ve$also$included$the$excerpt$of$Chief$Jusce$Roberts’$opinion$that$Gov.$Romney$menons$in$the$interview$foryour$background$informaon.$Thanks,Amanda$
Gov.%Romney%CBS%Interview%–%Health%Care%Excerpt
$JAN$CRAWFORD:$“Let’s$talk$about$the$law$and$whether$the$mandate$is$a$tax$because,$of$course,$the$court$saidit$was$a$tax.$Congress$could$pass$this$as$part$of$its$taxing$power.$The$President$disagrees$with$that.$He$saidthat$it’s$a$penalty,$it’s$not$a$tax.$Republicans$across$the$country$have$seized$on$this$saying$he’s$secretly$tryingto$raise$taxes.$Your$senior$adviser$said$that$you$believe$that$it’s$not$a$tax;$that$you$agree$with$the$Presidentthat$the$mandate$is$just$a$penalty.$Why$don’t$you$think$the$mandate$is$a$tax?”$GOV.$ROMNEY:$“Well,$the$Supreme$Court$has$the$final$word$and$their$final$word$is$that$Obamacare$is$a$tax.$Soit’s$a$tax.$They$decided$it$was$constuonal.$So$it$is$a$tax$and$it’s$constuonal.$That’s$the$final$word—that’swhat$it$is.$Now,$I$agreed$with$the$dissent.$I$would$have$taken$a$different$course,$but$the$dissent$wasn’t$themajority.$The$majority$has$rule$and$their$rule$is$final.$It$is$a$tax.$CRAWFORD:$“So$you$believe$that—you$would$say$that$the$mandate$now$is$a$tax?”$ROMNEY:$“Well,$that$the$law$of$the$land.$The$Supreme$Court$is$the$highest$court$in$the$naon$and$it$said$thatit’s$a$tax,$so$it’s$a$tax.$That’s$what$it$is.$And$what$I’d$like$to$hear$is$how$President$Obama$can$say$he$doesn’tthink$it’s$a$tax.$He$disagrees$with$the$court.$He$thinks$the$court$is$inaccurate.$If$that’s$the$case,$then$he$mustthink$the$bill$is$unconstuonal$because,$in$order$to$find$it$constuonal,$they$had$to$find$it$a$tax.$And$by$theway,$don’t$forget,$it$was$his$Solicitor$General$that$went$into$the$court$and$argued$it$was$a$tax.$And$theconclusion$of$the$court$that$it’s$constuonal…”$CRAWFORD:$“Are$you$[inaudible]?”$ROMNEY:$“…the$conclusion$of$the$court$was$in$order$for$them$to$find$it$constuonal,$they$had$to$find$it$wasa$tax.$So$it$is$a$tax.”$CRAWFORD:$“Have$you$changed$your$views$on$this?$I$mean,$do$you$now$believe$that$it$is$a$tax,$at$the$federal
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level,$that$the$Supreme$Court$has$said$it$is$a$tax,$so$it$is$a$tax.”$ROMNEY:$“Well,$I$said$that$I$agreed$with$the$dissent$and$the$dissent$made$it$very$clear$that$they$felt$it$wasunconstuonal,$but$the$dissent$lost.$It’s$in$the$minority.$And$so$now,$the$Supreme$Court$has$spoken,$and,while$I$agreed$with$the$dissent,$that’s$taken$over$by$the$fact$that$the$majority$of$the$court$said$it’s$a$tax$and,therefore,$it$is$a$tax.$They$have$spoken.$There’s$no$way$around$that.$You$can$try$and$say$you$wished$they$haddecided$a$different$way,$but$they$didn’t.$They$concluded$it$was$a$tax.$That’s$what$it$is$and$the$Americanpeople$know$that$President$Obama$has$broken$the$pledge$he$made.$He$said$he$wouldn’t$raise$taxes$onmiddleincome$Americans.$Not$only$did$he$raise$the$500$billion$that$was$already$in$the$bill,$it’s$now$clear$thathis$mandate$as$described$by$the$Supreme$Court$is$a$tax.”$CRAWFORD:$“But$does$that$mean$that$the$mandate$in$the$state$of$Massachuses$under$your$health$care$lawalso$is$a$tax?$I$mean,$you$raised$taxes$as$governor.$ROMNEY:$“Actually$the$chief$jusce$in$his$opinion$made$it$very$clear$that$at$the$state$level,$states$have$thepower$to$put$in$place$mandates.$They$don’t$need$to$require$them$to$be$called$taxes$in$order$for$them$to$beconstuonal.$And$as$a$result,$Massachuses’$mandate$was$a$mandate,$was$a$penalty,$was$described$thatway$by$the$legislature$and$by$me,$and$so$it$stays$as$it$was.$CRAWFORD:$“So$at$the$state$level$because$of$…$you’re$saying$the$Supreme$Court$says$that’s$different,$that$thefederal$government$–$the$powers$are$different$between$the$states$and$the$federal$government?$Does$thatmake$sense$to$you?”$ROMNEY:$“Just$take$a$read$of$the$opinion.$The$chief$jusce$said$that$states$have$what’s$known$as$policepower,$and$states$can$implement$penales$and$mandates$and$so$forth$under$their$constuons,$which$iswhat$Massachuses$did.$But$the$federal$government$does$not$have$those$powers,$and$therefore$for$theSupreme$Court$to$reach$the$conclusion$it$did$–$that$the$law$was$constuonal$–$they$had$to$find$it$was$a$tax,and$they$did.$And$therefore$Obamacare’s$a$tax.$Like$it$or$not,$it’s$a$tax.$$
On%Background:%Chief%Jusce%Roberts’%Opinion%NFIB%v.%Sebelius
,$Slip$Opinion$at$34$(Roberts,$C.J.):$And$when$the$Bill$of$Rights$was$rafied,$it$made$express$what$the$enumeraon$of$powers$necessarilyimplied:$“The$powers$not$delegated$to$the$United$States$by$the$Constuon$.$.$.$are$reserved$to$the$Statesrespecvely,$or$to$the$people.”$U.$S.$Const.,$Amdt.$10.$The$Federal$Government$has$expanded$dramacallyover$the$past$two$centuries,$but$it$sll$must$show$that$a$constuonal$grant$of$power$authorizes$each$of$itsacons.$See,$
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The%same%does%not%apply%to%the%States,%because%the%Constuon%is%not%the%source%of%their%power.%TheConstuon%may%restrict%state%governments—as%it%does,%for%example,%by%forbidding%them%to%deny%anyperson%the%equal%protecon%of%the%laws.%But%where%such%prohibions%do%not%apply,%state%governments%donot%need%constuonal%authorizaon%to%act.%The%States%thus%can%and%do%perform%many%of%the%vital%funconsof %modern %government—punishing %street %crime, %running %public %schools, %and %zoning %property %for
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