ARCWELDER contained Bob Mould?!?!? A Limelight performance (NYC) '92, with middle-finger "**** you"s from the crowd. From me & coe-horts in the crowd (Whitey/Murray/Karen). If I'd known, the catwalk would've been my refuge... as it went, the refuse was post-punk, quasi-mosh, lighters but again, the flipping off of the band, which sounded HARDCORE. (Murray wasn't there.) Sold me, on negativity; Bob Mould saw a little lime-light, then... Defunct everything already! The cathedral ROCKED.--jb