fluffy2 scribbled: Dear Hasan- Thanks. I like you- you have a sense of humor that will carry you well in life. I am quitting this site- getting too busy with my life and commitments. I work practically 18 hrs a day, including weekends to keep up, and even at home, I am working on paper work. I will remain in science for many years to come- and also work on couple of textbook projects that I have. I am extremely happy as I am- Thank God for USA. I hope you find happiness with a nice girl. Good luck to you. Remember me as a 'Jinn' !! That seems to be your favorite expression about me, Fluffy 2. As for the Indian Muslim- hope she finds a rabid Mullah to get married and has ten kids (heck, make it 20)!! With someone like Zakir donkey- Insallah! Signing off- Fluffy2

fluffy2 scribbled: Perhaps your Indian Islamic genius could expound on these a bit: A fanatical church in Ohio says even Gandhi is in hell because he did not accept Jesus. What about Muslims? Do you think Gandhi is in hell as he did not pary to Mecca? You think our planet was hit 65 million years ago and wiped out the dinos? Is this in Quron, or you beauties do not believe there were dinos? The prophet forgot to get this from God? I will be on a different tangent soon.... Keep up (I am sure you can, having a servant do all your work for you- poor me, I have to do all chores here).

fluffy2 scribbled: I do not respond to your insipid BS by making counter arguments! I go in tangents because my brain is too busy multi-tasking. I am typing this, but reading a manuscript for publication, and watching the Boston Marathon. You think I am going to argue stupid details with you? Big Bang theory- sure, such thing exists in all religions. Creating of man- sure, ditto. Science in holy books- ditto, if you look hard enough. BS in holy books- sure, in every holy book. Vedas mention the prophet? sure if you say so, I have not read these books. More powerr to you Muslims! Scientifically based religion, but fail to appreciate scientific evidence. ghere does that leave you- I am afraid in a rut. As far as I am concerned- the single, greatest document made by man- The US constitution written by Americans in 1776. Read it- and know what a great country USA is. It is better than the Bible and Quron and Vedas. For, the US constitution gives every man and woman God given rights.Is there such a thing in any other country?

fluffy2 scribbled: That it for me! My hypothesis was: With Abrahamic cults, given all the scientific evidence, they just will hang to their holy books. The Christian nuts are the same way- they are trying to find Noah's ark (most likely place- Mount Ararat)! It does not matter that there no way enough water exists on planet Earth to submerge the Earth- they look! Even if all the ice melts, the maximum water level will rise is 200 feet- hardly enough to submerge the planet. One way Christian nuts could argue thid debacle- 6000 years ago (that is how old the planet Earth is according to Bible!), no mountains existed, and the land was few feet above sea level! According to Noah's story- we are actually from Noah more recently than Adam and Eve! I also watched the story of ten commandments- where are they- according to some Chritians, they are in a vault in an old church in Ethiopia! But the Ethiopian church leaders are not allowing anyone to peer into the vault! As for the U-tube contradiction explanation by your hero- the Zakir genius- yes I did see that. I get a kick out of this moron babling on making no sense whatsoever. Sure, a day may mean 1000 years or 50,000 years for God- who are we to question? End of explanation! If Zakir idiot had any brains- he could have used different logic: In one place the Quron says a day is equal to 1000 years for God, and this may be when God was on Planet earth. When he was on different planet with a slower rotation, a day is equal to 50,000 years! Need I say more in support of evolution? Many on this planet who believe in hocus pocus need more time for mental evolution.

fluffy2 scribbled: Indoctrination of kids into religion is child abuse! So said my Jew scientist colleague. How true she is.I think in many cases, Jews are brilliant! For statistics- do you know that Jews who amount to mere few millions, have the highest number of Nobel Laurates? Compare that with 2 BILLION Muslims- and only a handful of Nebel Laurates! Before you go apoplectic and put a Fatwa on me- relax. I do not think human intelligence is anyone's prerogative! No sir/ madam. What it indicates is that the Jews do not take religion so seriously as you people. They actually go thorugh science and adding to science literature. They do believe in evolution, unlike insiya nutjob. I have been reading quite a bit on ancient history these days. Quite interesting. In Emperor Ashoka's days, ancient India traded with Greece- In fact, many of Ashoka's ediths were bilingual, Greek and ancient Indian script. Can you imagine that? Do you know HG Wells considered King Ashoka the very best of all kings? What does this imply? Knowledge flow was going every where in ancientdays- The Arabs were trading merchants those days- and they carried information every where. What is particularly striking is how advanced the ancient Mayan civilization was- They probably used zero before Indians, they had a calendar system and built terrific civilization thousands of years before your prophet. Here is my hypothesis- the Greek science got into Quron quite a bit- there is no way to prove or disprove that- but it is a good and intelligent hypothesis. Furthermore- in the dark ages, all the knwoledge of the Greeks and Europeans were translated by Arabs and saved- for which they deserve a pat on the back. But it has absolutely nothing to do with Islam. This is for Insiya- I will not indoctrinate my kids into a religion cult! I am not a nut like you. Let them fly free with imagination- study science, excel, get Nobel prizes- improve the human condition. That is my wish for my kids. I am sure that should be good for God- don't you agree? Dear Hasan brother- I like your concern that I should read Quron. I also saw the U-tube contradictions on Quron, for which there is an answer. My answer- what do you expect from all the holy books written by men? Mistakes, due to poor editing skills! Why don't you see the plain truth?

fluffy2 scribbled: Name calling and 'foul' language use? Who- me? What the heck are you talking about? I rather someone use 4 letter words than cultivated 'civilized' BS coming from you Insiya. I guessed you must be an Indian- who else but Indian Muslims are such rabid idiots. I grew up with plenty of Muslim boys in South End of Bangalore learning foul Urdu from my Muslim friends. I am afrad I can't recite them- as lilly white girl Insiya would be offended! Damn (oops- 4 letter foul wrord). I hope you get married to one of them! Sure I know lots of idiots out there are non-Arabs. I also work here with many Muslim scientists. The funny thing is (especially for Insiya)- none of my 'Muslim' colleagues ever face Mecca or recite the Quron. HA!- they are just like me. We out-grew your stupid religions. The more you use your brain- better you are. Grow up guys (and gal). Horrors- no- it is against Quron. Despite its ability to blind us emotionally, despite the fact that in most cases people come to embrace religion through some form of indoctrination, or in the case of President Bush, come to it as a substitute for other forms of intoxication (Cocaine addict), religion as an artifact of human thought has long outlived its usefulness. We are no longer tribes squatting in huts teaching our children that the world is flat and if the weather turns it's because some god is angry about the clothes we wear. Problem being that today, in place of sticks and rocks we have big, powerful and easily portable weapons. Sure Hasan- One need not even read any holy book to know there is a big war coming due to religion nuts like Insiya. The human condition is a sad one- with an evolved brain people have come to fear death, and the very thought of "is that all there is to life"? Hence, they invented heaven, hell concept- This is only the case with stupid Abrahamic cults. The Hindus I know have never talked about this BS concepts.

fluffy2 scribbled: "And as for the Adam and Eve concept in Islam : I know where you are heading by asking me a question, the answer of which, seems to me should in all probability be known to you. So anyway Ill get straight to the point Yes , the human race which populates the planet has come directly from one pair that’s Adam and Eve. And of course through incest. Now before you come up with the morality part about this and try connecting it to Islam I wish to state that Incest wasn’t an issue back then. It had not been prohibited until the Mosaic law came in. There was absolutely no problem with in breeding.. The genetic pool was pure so the birth defects which usually are a result of incest would not have occurred then. To the best of my knowledge there are several other examples of incest until the law of moses appeared." Glad you finally admitted it" Incest! God did not feel it was immoral but suddenly decided it was immoral later on- a change of mind. Now that we know we all came from incest and inbreeding- here is the final word: IMPOSSIBLE! We would have been wiped out long time ago by constant inbreeding- Unless you want to dispute Gid's nartural laws. So much for the science of Bible and Quron. Time for you to take a basic genetics course.

fluffy2 scribbled: If you want real proof of 'Hindu' numerals (including the zeroi) etched in stone- Go to North India- and visit the ancient ruins in UP: King Ashoka.s stupa. and etched in stone dating 300 years approximately before Christ, are the so called Arabic numerals.

fluffy2 scribbled: Insiya- So typical of Muslims to say "Shut up" to end the democratic process. I trust 'Wikipedia'; a fairly decent site on technical information.Here is the information on number system: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_...: "The numeral system was developed in ancient India, and was well established by the time of the Bakhshali manuscript (ca. 3d c. CE). Despite its Indian origins it was initially known in the West as Arabic numerals because of its introduction to Europe through Arabic texts such as Al-Khwarizmi's On the Calculation with Hindu Numerals (ca. 825), and Al-Kindi's four volume work On the Use of the Indian Numerals (ca. 830)[2]. Today the name Hindu-Arabic numerals is usually used." What do you do? You live in a space ship? Drugged out? A woman like you should be well educated - because from mothers the children get wisdom.If the mother is stupid, forget the children achieveing anything significant. Here is another thing for you: The Indo-European languages have Sanskrit as the originator. If you are educated, you will see a lot of similarity between Germanic and other European languages and Sanskrit. I have a year of German language course under my belt. How old is Indian civilization- lot older than your Quron, and with plenty of wisdom. Regarding Arabs- If they are so smart, as per your opinion- there is an old saying: "The apple does not fall far from the tree". If the Arabs were so smart, how come they are nothing now? Look at Indians and the Chinese: They are well-represented in technical, scientific and research fields in USA. Were are the Arabs? They run Mobil gas stations in USA.

fluffy2 scribbled: Insiya- Just address the Adam and Eve problem that I am stuck with: Incest? Impossible gene mutations by in-breeding? You are rather limited in your discussions, even though your posts are long. Zero invented by Arabs! Give me a break. Are you Indian? If so, know your history. Regarding all the algebra/ math invented by Arab/ Muslims- it is all from the Greeks. Arabs got as far as organizing robbing of Jews in the days of the prophet. That is their contribution. I am beginning to like Hasan's posts calling me Jin than your BS.

fluffy2 scribbled: You are a funny guy- Hasan.

fluffy2 scribbled: It is a beautiful spring day finally here in New England area, after months of miserable snows and cold, so I am in a very happy mood like you Hasan. I would advice you to join London school of economics and get ahead in life. I am utterly dumb-founded how people can believe in mumbo-jumbo of holy books,and ignore physical evidence of science. Do explain about Adam and Eve.I did not get much out of your strange lingo- is that Arabic in English phonetics? So you rather have lived 400 years ago- The good old days. People had bad hygiene, no teeth care, no antibiotics, and you would have died in early 20's a miserable death 400 years ago. Now you live in London, enjoy clean air and good health care, yet you are uncomfortable in having tive with dis-believers. Looking at girls bother you! That is normal biological process. OK- if your faith in God is strong, you should not be tempted by girls or disbelievers around you. That is the true test of belief system. What is the big deal about you living encircled by believers, so you are not challenged? Is this your extent of belief? I suppose there are no disbelievers in Bangla Desh and India? The Iranian President who visited USA few months ago said the same about USA- that Iran has no disbelievers and no homosexuals! He is of course a nut. Homosexuals are present in every religion,including Islam! And including Saudi Arabia, the birth place of your God. How do you explain that? God created homosexuals? Hasan- get a decent education in UK, and go back to Bangla Desh and help your fellow country men. Forget about converting all UK people to Islam. And if my cousin disbelievers are converting to Islam, they are not disbelievers to start with.

fluffy2 scribbled: Salam Insiya- So you are not a guy. Sorry. "Inshallah you will succeed in your intentions." And, what intentions are these? Convert everyone into Islam? Then what happens? The heavens open up and God will come and visit us? What exactly will happen? Muslims do not even get along with fellow Muslims, because of this Sunni and Shiite thing. What the heck is that? What can't you people get along with each other? Why is the bad to marry non-Muslims? Why is it bad to be friends with Jews? It is particularly sad to see educated people trying to potray the religions and their books as from God. People are the most primitive vertebrates on this planet. Have you 2 (Insiya and Hasan) even considered that kindness is built in the genes of animals? Yes Insiya- you can make a whole cell by creating appropriate conditions.God is not needed for it. If you ever care to study cell biology- you will be convinced how many things during evolution are incorporated into our cells- including mitochondria, cilia, viral DNA, etc. But of course, you do not believe anything scientific. You 2 beauties rather rant on Quron quotes.

fluffy2 scribbled: The Pope is currently touring USA- another pathetic idiot trying to convert people. Let it be known that thousands of young children wereraped by these God-fearing Christain priests. Catholic cult- many Americans are leaving it. I hear lot of night TV shows making fun of the Pope. Now that is healthy. Does this happen in Islam? People get killed if anyone says anything remotely un-Islamic. God save us from Islam and all other religious cults. Time for God to come to planet Earth, and teach us to use our brains- don;t you think so?

fluffy2 scribbled: "ead quran and you'll find all the challenges but remember blazing fire is waiting" HA! In that case, Hasan, I will make sure I will pack my fire extinguisher with me to put out the blazing fire. This sort of scaring people to believe is the hall-mark of 2 cults on this planet: Christianity and Islam. Give me a break.Where the hell is hell? How hot does it get? Have you seen it? :Let me know which direction is hell, so I will try to avoid it. Frankly Hasan- You are living in England- try to learn something useful for mankind and contribute. You seem to be intent on converting gullible idiots to Islam. What is in it for you? Some good credits from God?