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Understanding Islam Through Hadis - R Swarup |
Don't talk about isolated incidents to me. I'm from India and we had to bear atrocities by Muslim invaders committed in the name of Islam. Al-Zawahiri, Mohammad Atta etc are all very educated men from middle-class backgrounds. So pull your head out of your arse and open your eyes. I have Mohammad Montgomery Pickthall's authorised translation of the Quran. I have also looked through the Yusuf Ali translation. The hadith are available at the University of Minnesota's site http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/. This is not the forum for a lengthy discussion of the depravities of Islam. Which is why I provided so many references. I challenge you to read any of them and take up this debate in Ali Sina's site. Btw, he doesn't censor posts. Regarding death for apostasy+treason, has it occurred to you that for Muhammad, apostasy IS treason? Also, what exactly do you mean by "treason", and against whom? "Treason" is customarily understood to be against a state. I notice you didn't say anything about stoning to death and amputations etc. Why is that? Please also read Arun Shourie's "The World of Fatwas". Please also read the Qura... |
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Zakir Naik was challenged by Ali Sina to an online debate but Naik refused unless both were on the same stage at the same time. He wanted to pack the audience with his slavering followers who would no doubt try to kill Ali Sina the moment he started making adverse comments. Btw, for a "religion of tolerance" how come Muslims who abandon Islam are to be killed? Why the punishments of stoning to death, cutting of hands? In India, a Muslim woman who was repeatedly raped by her father-in-law was first condemned for adultery, then made to divorce her husband and told she couldn't remarry him until she was first married to and screwed by another man. The father-in-law was not punished until the Indian govt. threw his Muslim ass into jail. You fanatic Muslims don't understand logic or compassion (except maybe towards Muslims), practice deceit when in a small minority (the honoured though shitty Islamic tradition of "taqqiya"), are generally the most toxic part of any generally decent society you find yourselves parasiting on. I hope Mecca & Medina etc are all bombed and the rubble used to construct toilets and pig-sties. That's all they are fit for. |
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Arshie should read the Quran and the Hadith with care, not omitting the nasty parts. The Quran may be the only scripture which seems have curses ("And their's will be a painful doom" or its slight paraphrase) every 20 lines or so. Enough verses can be quoted from the Quran demonstrating Muhammad's hatred of non-Muslims, his extreme sadism, and nothwithstanding the usual claims, quite discriminatory against women. If Arshie disagrees with the foregoing statement, let him go to http://www.faith freedom.org run by Ali Sina (an ex-Muslim) and debate the matter there. He should also read Ibn Warraq's "Why I Am Not a Muslim", "Muhammad & Islam Stories Not Told Before" - M. Asghar, "Probing Islam"- A debate between Ali Sina and Javed Ahmed Ghamidi + Khalid Zaheer, "Ibn Warraq on How to Debate a Muslim", "Islam Undressed" - Vernon Richards, "Prophet of Doom" - C. Winn, "The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam (and the Crusades)" - R. Spencer, "The Violent Oppression of Women in Islam" - Spencer & Chesler, "The Sword of Islam" - A. N. Wollaston. etc The problem is not with fan... |
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Comment on Understanding Islam Through Hadis - R Swarup
Posted on July 28, 2008
A woman who's been raped lodges a complaint against her rapist. She must get 4 witnesses if she is not to be accused of adultery, but only one witness is enough to clear the man. Where the hell is she going to get 4 witnesses that she was raped? Quran II.221 orders Muslim men not to marry non-Muslim women unless they are converted nor to mary off their daughters to non-Muslims. Yet in II.256 it says there is no compulsion in religion. II.223 practically sanctions marital rape. Much more of it. Read S R Goels' "Hindu Temples: What Happened to Them". You are just another smelly, publicly ball-scratching, hairy goat of a Muslim. You don't know dick about Indian history. Muslims in India should now be forced to convert to Hinduism. Then they will learn peaceful living. Spared from amputation only if theft is from hunger, eh? So, the only person who qualifies for clemency is a starving destitute. Charming! Just the kind of deterrent punishment a psychopath would think up. Muhammad himself had the limbs of some thieves of his camels cut off and the still living bodies dumped in the desert. The Quran also prescribes a specific amputation against enemies: right arm and left...