Mahela N. scribbled: The Four Noble Truths 1. The Truth of Suffering [ Key word : suffering /dukkha/] 2. The Cause of Suffering [ Key word : desires /thanha/ ] 3. Cessation of suffering [ Key word : cessation /nirodha/] 4. The Path of Cessation from Suffering [Key word : road /marga/ ] The word ‘thanha’ (translated as ‘desires’) in the second truth is further classified in Buddhism to three as: 1.desire for sensual pleasures [kama thanha] = lust 2.desire for the continuous existence [bhava thanha] = can be compared with ‘libido’ in Freudian Psychology 3.desire for the cessation of existence [vibhava thanha] = can be compared with ‘mortido’ or ‘death instinct’ in Freudian Psychology The Third Truth is ‘Nirodha Sathya’ (The Truth of the existence of the state called Cessation from suffering), not ‘Suffering and misery can be removed by removing desire’ as Dr. Zakir mentions in his article titled ‘Gautam Buddha’, the fact of which creates confusion by inserting it at that stage. Such a statement as Dr.Zakir uses as the third truth is needed only to explain it, not as a name or a definition of it. Also, the term ‘desire’ used there has to be used in proper contexts since 2 contexts arise in the use of the word there. The key word as mentioned above is ‘cessation’ (nirodha) not ‘desires’ or ‘removal’ that are needed only to explain it. It is the removal of the three types of desires mentioned above that brings ‘nirodha’. It is true an ‘effort’ (Veerya) is needed to remove the 3 types of desires which ‘effort’ may or may not be called a ‘desire’ too. However, it ought to be clear by now, such an ‘effort’ made is not a ‘desire’ in the sense of the 3 ‘desires’ mentioned above. Therefore, the question made as ‘the desire to remove the desires’ need not arise. To clarify the point further, an ‘effort’ of setting fire to a house and an ‘effort’ of putting out that fire are two types of ‘efforts’ though the same word is used. http://www.scribd.com/doc/14094820/A- Natuaral misunderstanding: "THESE TEACHINGS ARE NOT FOR THE FOOLS" -The Buddha (exaggerated translation)

Mahela N. scribbled: The Four Noble Truths 1. The Truth of Suffering [Key word: suffering /dukkha/] 2. The Cause of Suffering Key word : desires /thanha/ ] 3. Cessation of suffering [Key word : cessation /nirodha/] 4. The Path of Cessation from Suffering [Key word : road /marga/ ] The word ‘thanha’ (translated as ‘desires’) in the second truth is further classified in Buddhism to three as: 1. desire for sensual pleasures [kama thanha] = lust 2.desire for the continuous existence [bhava thanha] = can be compared with ‘libido’ in Freudian Psychology 3.desire for the cessation of existence [vibhava thanha] = can be compared with ‘mortido’ or ‘death instinct’ in Freudian Psychology The Third Truth is ‘Nirodha Sathya’ (The Truth of the existence of the state called Cessation from suffering), not ‘Suffering and misery can be removed by removing desire’ as Dr. Zakir mentions in his article titled ‘Gautam Buddha’, the fact of which creates confusion by inserting it at that stage. Such a statement as Dr.Zakir uses as the third truth is needed only to explain it, not as a name or a definition of it. Also, the term ‘desire’ used there has to be used in proper contexts since 2 contexts arise in the use of the word there. The key word as mentioned above is ‘cessation’ (nirodha) not ‘desires’ or ‘removal’ that are needed only to explain it. It is the removal of the three types of desires mentioned above that brings ‘nirodha’. It is true an ‘effort’ (Veerya) is needed to remove the 3 types of desires which ‘effort’ may or may not be called a ‘desire’ too. However, it ought to be clear by now, such an ‘effort’ made is not a ‘desire’ in the sense of the 3 ‘desires’ mentioned above. Therefore, the question made as ‘the desire to remove the desires’ need not arise. To clarify the point further, an ‘effort’ of setting fire to a house and an ‘effort’ of putting out that fire are two types of ‘efforts’ though the same word is used. http://www.scribd.com/doc/14094820/A-

Mahela N. scribbled: "These teachings are not for the fools."- The Buddha Fools who think there is a Person standing behind the universe and controling everything.

Mahela N. scribbled: "These teachings are not for the fools." - Fools who think there is a Person standing behind the sky and controls everything.

Mahela N. scribbled: I fully agree with the view above. It is a problem not only for Indians even Americalns and Eurpeans are now highly concerned with this trend. We have seen many Hindu/ Christian, Buddhist/ Christian Buddhsist/ Hindu etc. etc. marriages where no side is forcing other to convert. When they willingly convert to any side no one bothers who went to which side. That is HUMANITY, LOVE for the other. Not by loving to imprrove the lot of the community through AGGRESSION AND LYING. When it with a Muslims, there is so much of pressure from Muslim side for the other to go to that side. This has been happenning for centuries and the general feeling of all non muslim communities who had to live close to them. There are isolated instances of other ways of happening too rarely. Such things happen only when the Muslim population is powerless to do anything. General situation is as the writer mentioned above. The Muslim actor drinking or kissing women on the screen is an irrelevant. Many of the Muslims I know drink alcohol. Or smoke which is more harmful than alcohol. Such points are irrelevant here.

Mahela N. scribbled: You have shown the real sitation. The world is half controlled by the barbarians. Barbarians justify their acts by citing the acts of other barbarians. Tragedy of the situation is this cannot be stopped now. More bloodbaths have to be expected.

Mahela N. scribbled: I fully agree with the view above. It is a problem not only for Indians even Americalns and Eurpeans are now highly concerned with this trend. We have seen many Hindu/ Christian, Buddhist/ Christian Buddhsist/ Hindu etc. etc. marriages where no side is forcing other to convert. When they willingly convert to any side no one bothers who went to which side. That is HUMANITY, LOVE for the other. Not by loving to imprrove the lot of the community through AGGRESSION AND LYING. When it with a Muslims, there is so much of pressure from Muslim side for the other to go to that side. This has been happenning for centuries and the general feeling of all non muslim communities who had to live close to them. There are isolated instances of other ways of happening too rarely. Such things happen only when the Muslim population is powerless to do anything. General situation is as the writer mentioned above. The Muslim actor drinking or kissing women on the screen is an irrelevant. Many of the Muslims I know drink alcohol. Or smoke which is more harmful than alcohol. Such points are irrelevant here.

Mahela N. scribbled: I fully agree with the view above. It is a problem not only for Indians even Americalns and Eurpeans are now highly concerned with this trend. We have seen many Hindu/ Christian, Buddhist/ Christian Buddhsist/ Hindu etc. etc. marriages where no side is forcing other to convert. When they willingly convert to any side no one bothers who went to which side. That is HUMANITY, LOVE for the other. Not by loving to imprrove the lot of the community through AGGRESSION AND LYING. When it with a Muslims, there is so much of pressure from Muslim side for the other to go to that side. This has been happenning for centuries and the general feeling of all non muslim communities who had to live close to them. There are isolated instances of other ways of happening too rarely. Such things happen only when the Muslim population is powerless to do anything. General situation is as the writer mentioned above. The Muslim actor drinking or kissing women on the screen is an irrelevant. Many of the Muslims I know drink alcohol. Or smoke which is more harmful than alcohol. Such points are irrelevant here. Dont pretend

Mahela N. scribbled: I fully agree with the view above. It is a problem not only for Indians even Americalns and Eurpeans are now highly concerned with this trend. We have seen many Hindu/ Christian, Buddhist/ Christian Buddhsist/ Hindu etc. etc. marriages where no side is forcing other to convert. When they willingly convert to any side no one bothers who went to which side. That is HUMANITY, LOVE for the other. Not by loving to imprrove the lot of the community through AGGRESSION AND LYING. When it with a Muslims, there is so much of pressure from Muslim side for the other to go to that side. This has been happenning for centuries and the general feeling of all non muslim communities who had to live close to them. There are isolated instances of other ways of happening. General situation is as the writer says. Dont pretend.

Mahela N. scribbled: As for raping I would like copy and paste the following from Yahoo Answers: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/ind... Question: ‘It has become widespread these days, and especially during weddings, the habit of mufa’khathat of the children. (mufa’khathat - literally translated, it means “placing between the thighs” which means placing the male member between the thighs of a child). What is the opinion of scholars, knowing full well that the prophet, the peace of Allah be upon him, also practiced the “thighing” of Aisha - the mother of believers - may Allah be pleased with her ? Answer: After studying the issue, the committee has answered as follows: AS FOR THE PROPHET, HIS THIGHING HIS FIANCE AISHA WHEN SHE WAS SIX YEARS of age and not able to consummate the relationship was due to her small age. That is why the Prophet used to place his male member between her thighs and massage it, as the prophet had control of his male member not like other men. After the permanent committee for the scientific research and fatwahs (religious decrees) reviewed the question forwarded by the grand scholar of the committee with reference number 1809 issued on 3/5/1453 and 7/5/1421 (Islamic calendar) ___________________________ Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, The Supreme Leader of Iran, the Shia Grand Ayatollah, 1979-89 said in his official statements: "A man can quench his sexual lusts with a child as young as a baby. However, he should not penetrate. Sodomizing the baby is halal (allowed by sharia). If the man penetrates and damages the child, then he should be responsible for her subsistence all her life. This girl, however, does not count as one of his four permanent wives. The man will not be eligible to marry the girl’s sister. It is better for a girl to marry when her menstruation starts, and at her husband's house rather than her father's home. Any father marrying his daughter so young will have a permanent place in heaven." Khomeini, "Tahrirolvasyleh" fourth volume, Darol Elm, Gom, Iran, 1990 “It is not illegal for an adult male to 'thigh' or enjoy a young girl who is still in the age of weaning; meaning to place his penis between her thighs, and to kiss her.” Ayatu Allah Al Khumaini's "Tahrir Al wasila" p. 241 _________

Mahela N. scribbled: As for raping I would like to copy and paste from the Yahoo answers http://answers.yahoo.com/question/ind... Question: ‘It has become widespread these days, and especially during weddings, the habit of mufa’khathat of the children. (mufa’khathat - literally translated, it means “placing between the thighs” which means placing the male member between the thighs of a child). What is the opinion of scholars, knowing full well that the prophet, the peace of Allah be upon him, also practiced the “thighing” of Aisha - the mother of believers - may Allah be pleased with her ? Answer: After studying the issue, the committee has answered as follows: As for the prophet, his thighing his fiancée Aisha when she was six years of age and not able to consummate the relationship was due to her small age. That is why the Prophet used to place his male member between her thighs and massage it, as the prophet had control of his male member not like other men. After the permanent committee for the scientific research and fatwahs (religious decrees) reviewed the question forwarded by the grand scholar of the committee with reference number 1809 issued on 3/5/1453 and 7/5/1421 (Islamic calendar) ____________________________ Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, The Supreme Leader of Iran, the Shia Grand Ayatollah, 1979-89 said in his official statements: "A man can quench his sexual lusts with a child as young as a baby. However, he should not penetrate. Sodomizing the baby is halal (allowed by sharia). If the man penetrates and damages the child, then he should be responsible for her subsistence all her life. This girl, however, does not count as one of his four permanent wives. The man will not be eligible to marry the girl’s sister. It is better for a girl to marry when her menstruation starts, and at her husband's house rather than her father's home. Any father marrying his daughter so young will have a permanent place in heaven." Khomeini, "Tahrirolvasyleh" fourth volume, Darol Elm, Gom, Iran, 1990 “It is not illegal for an adult male to 'thigh' or enjoy a young girl who is still in the age of weaning; meaning to place his penis between her thighs, and to kiss her.” Ayatu Allah Al Khumaini's "Tahrir Al wasila" p. 241 _____________________________

Mahela N. scribbled: A very useful document that could give us many insights. I hope the readers may read the following documents too for comparision. http://www.scribd.com/doc/11004355/Th... http://www.scribd.com/doc/13097735/Ma... http://www.scribd.com/doc/17028761/CH...

Mahela N. scribbled: is reading To Voice_ Truth bellow How does Nietzsche's dying and his comment about God relate in justifying your point?. There are so mnay muslims who have become mad. Their praying 5 times were of no help to them when becoming mad or dying from similar or worse causes. Do they suggest what they could have uttered when they were sane wrong ? Where is logic in such an argument? . Even you may die from Alzhemir's decease or any other when you become old. May be I too. As I hear prophet Mohommed had epileptic fits. If you want me to remove Nietzche's comment then let me take The Buddha's statement. "One's Creator and the Destoryer is oneself" -The Dhammapada Dr. Zakir is a "Great Intellectual" to his followers. Not to me and many others I know. I donot believe memorization of passages makes one an intellectual. What he lacks is CRITICAL THINKING. One who uses critical thinking has to use such critical thinking to the foundation of his thinking too. That is how the world was developed. To make use of the scriptures of others to prove one's attachments to religuous thoughts shows more of fanatical attachment than critical thinking or logical reasoning. Prophet Mohommed can never ever be a Maithri Buddha because according to the concept of the Buddha,1. A Buddha never carries a sword. Even to meet the terrorist Angulimala The Buddha went without weapons and without a crowd saying they were for "self defense" . And He made Angulimala back to his senses. Prophet Mohommed carried a sword into make wars 2. A Budha never marries because sex not the life form of a Higher Form of Being. It is for those who have carnal desires. Prophet Mohommed married about 9 wives and one was a 9 year old girl. STUDY THE FOLLOWING CRITICALLY AND SEE HOW DR ZAKIRS THINING POWER IS. http://www.scribd.com/doc/14094820/A-....