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Ubuntu +1 (Quantal Quetzal) (Closed) This forum is for the discussion of the development of the next version of Ubuntu (Quantal Quetzal). Quantal is in development and will be released in October 2012. Please note: Ubuntu Developers do not usually read the forums, to report a problem found in Quantal report the bug in Launchpad. Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 > Thread Tools September 10th, 2012 Display Modes

#1 12.10 Graphics Problem, Can't See Applications I just installed 12.10. When I click on the "Dash Home" or "super" the graphics are flashy and I can't really see the applications to click, they are faded. I installed nouveau thinking that would fix the problem but it is still the same. Code: rob@mobile:~$ lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 vga 00:12.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation C67 [GeForce 7150M / nForce 630M] [ Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device [103c:30cf] Kernel driver in use: nouveau

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#3 Re: 12.10 Graphics Problem, Can't See Applications Well I went and reinstalled Ubuntu and things are looking better, the icons are solid. But it will still flash when clicking on the dash, and I can't use my second monitor. __________________ Rob Ubuntu-One Cloud Storage, Sync files between your comuters Back-up & Share files. Sign Up! Last edited by robtygart; September 11th, 2012 at 04:21 AM..

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#4 Re: 12.10 Graphics Problem, Can't See Applications Hi, I've seen your msg. Sorry for the delay, I was returning from holiday. I'm sorry but I don't know if we have a reliable way to replace nouveau for nvidia-current and properly deal with drivers right now. Normally, you would do that using Jockey, but it has been deprecated. Other testers will be able to tell you whether you can use an easy and WYSISYG procedure to install Nvidia drivers. There are other methods (getting nvidia-current from official repos, unofficial / alternative PPAs, etc). You can add an unofficial source with two cmd lines. Maybe it's the best way, I just don't know anymore. I have been using Nvidia's proprietary installer this entire cycle (and probably the previous one too) with no problems whatsoever (despite the xorg apocalypse a while ago, which is not an issue anymore). The Nvidia installer also fixes gl/glx files and symlinks inside /usr/lib* and your /etc/X11/xorg.conf if needed, which can help greatly. It usually takes 2 or 3 minutes and 3 commands or so, but here's a safer and thoroughly described procedure. 1) Check for Pinned Packages / Packages with "Hold" status: Code: $ cat /etc/apt/preferences | grep "Pin" $ dpkg --get-selections "*"|grep -e "hold$"

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If the commands above output any relevant result, you have pinned / hold packages and only you will be able to know what was changed, why, how it affects your system. Do not proceed if unsure. 2) Check the list of supported cards: Check whether your card is supported by the latest version of Nvidia drivers at http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-d...43driver.html.I have checked and your card is supported by version 304.43. I don't know how well it is supported though. 3) Check Grub If you have added non-standard options/parameters to the kernel command line in /etc/default/grub no one but you can evaluate how that will affect your system. Do not proceed if unsure. 4) Check for non-standard software sources: If you have added alternative PPAs to your sources or changed /etc/apt/sources.list in any way, no one but you can evaluate how that will affect your system. Do not proceed if unsure. 5) Upgrade packages

5) Upgrade packages Code: $ sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade

OBS: If you have a broken install/dependencies, fix that first. 6) Blacklist nouveau Code: $ sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf

Add these lines to the end of blacklist.conf: Quote: # Manually added to avoid conflict with nvidia proprietary module blacklist nouveau alias nouveau off 7) Check for nvidia in blacklists Make sure you do not have nvidia blacklisted in other files at /etc/modprobe.d/* Code: $ cd /etc/modprobe.d $ grep -iHnr "nvidia" *

The commands above should return only this: Quote: blacklist-framebuffer.conf:18:blacklist nvidiafb 8) Create a directory for the driver: It's useful to keep the installer at a known place (for eventuall reinstalls). Create a directory within your user $HOME for the Nvidia installer: Code: $ mkdir -p $HOME/Downloads/nvidia-drivers && cd $HOME/Downloads/nvidia-drivers

9) Get the installer: Download Nvidia installer for your architecture (32-bit or 64-bit). Run "uname -a" if you need to check whether you are using 32-bit or 64-bit. For 32-bit: Code: wget ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/304.43/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-304.43.run

For 64-bit: Code: wget ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/304.43/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-304.43.run

OBS: If the direct links above fail, go to http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us nd get your drivers there. 10) Check the download: Check whether the file was downloaded/saved to the directory we created: Code: $ ls -lha NVIDIA*

Quote: -rw-rw-r-- 1 ahsl ahsl 62M Aug 28 05:04 NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-304.43.run

OBS: The result above is for the 64-bit installer. You might have downloaded the 32-bit version depending on your system specs/arch. 11) Make the installer executable: Code: $ sudo chmod +x NVIDIA*

12) Switch to a Virtual Terminal and stop lightdm/X: - Press Ctrl+Alt+F6 and login with your user/pass Code: $ sudo service lightdm stop $ sudo killall -s KILL /usr/bin/X

13) Install: Run the Nvidia installer: Code: $ sudo ./NVIDIA*

OBS: You should answer YES to ALL questions. The only question I answer NO is the one about DKMS. I have had some problems with it. YMMV. 14) Restart: Back to the console prompt, restart the PC: Code: $ sudo reboot now

15) (Optional) Sing a happy song during boot: I suggest this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcPxszGTCa8 Problems: 1) If you can't see lightdm (stuck in console mode on boot) Is nouveau really blacklisted? Is nvidia *not* blacklisted? See steps 6 and 7. Which modules are loaded? Check with: Code: $ lsmod | grep -i nv $ lsmod | grep -i nouveau

Is anything non-standard being passed to the kernel cmdline at boot via Grub? See step 3. You only need special parameters if you know what they do. Did the install procedure went through with no errors? You can re-run it just to be sure. Repeat steps 12, 13 and 14 only. 2) If you can't enter the Ubuntu session (loop back to lightdm): Are you using an outdated version of xorg packages? Were they pinned / Hold? Check steps 1 and 5. 3) If you have no Dash / Launcher, nothing in Unity: Maybe this is a failed install with no GLX support. Try this: Press Ctrl+Alt+T. If you don't get a terminal, switch to a VT with Ctrl+Alt+F6. Run these commands to check for glx support: Code: $ sudo apt-get install nux-utils mesa-utils $ /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test $ glxgears -info

If you have no support for GLX, you have failed to follow the steps above and should re-do the procedure. If you have glx support, the Unity plugin is not loaded. At the terminal / VT run: Code: $ sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager

$ sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager $ DISPLAY=:0.0 ccsm

And activate the Unity plugin. 4) If you have a low performance, tearing, artifacts: You might have to disable / enable "Sync to VBlank" in compizconfig-settings-manager (ccsm) / OpenGL Plugin to increase performance / avoid tearing depending on how things work for this card. You might have to disable / enable "Sync to VBlank" in nvidia-settings / "OpenGL Settings" to increase performance / avoid tearing, depending on how things work for this card. You might have to enable "Force fullscreen redraws (buffer swap) on repaint" on ccsm / Workarounds Plugin to fix tearing / repaint problems. 5) Monitors not configured: Maybe the secondary monitor will be automatically activated, maybe it will not. I don't know why this is apparently not consistent. Go to Dash / Nvidia-settings and activate / configure the primary/secondary monitor if needed. OBS: - Yes, there are typos above. - I started typing before you posted the second msg to this thread, so 90% of it does not apply to your problem. Yey :) - You probably can benefit from steps 4 and 5 in the "Problems" section. Unless the procedure in Problems/Step 1 shows you not on nvidia but nouveau or, worse, llvmpipe or something (commands in step 3 can test that). In which case everything above applies :) Regards, Effenberg __________________ Join the U+1 Team! wiki.ubuntu.com/Effenberg0x0 www.Ideas2Projects.org Last edited by effenberg0x0; September 11th, 2012 at 06:25 AM..

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#5 Re: 12.10 Graphics Problem, Can't See Applications Thank you very much for all the help, thats a lot of info. It looks like it works. I am not sure if it has to do with this, the side bar is blurry after resizeing, but my external monitor works and no flashing. I will do some searching on the blurry side bar. Thanks again Rob __________________ Rob Ubuntu-One Cloud Storage, Sync files between your comuters Back-up & Share files. Sign Up!

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#6 12.10 Slow and runs hot! I have just installed 12.10, I now have the proper graphics installed. But everything is really sluggish and my fans are always running fast. Is there any way to speed things up, other then a lighter desktop? Maybe a different kernel? Some info about my PC Code: rob@mobile:~$ sudo lshw

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rob@mobile:~$ sudo lshw [sudo] password for rob: mobile description: Notebook product: () vendor: Hewlett-Packard version: Rev 1 serial: None width: 64 bits capabilities: smbios-2.4 dmi-2.4 vsyscall32 configuration: boot=oem-specific chassis=notebook family=103C_5335KV *-core description: Motherboard product: 30CF vendor: Quanta physical id: 0 version: 85.17 serial: None1 *-firmware:0 description: BIOS vendor: Hewlett-Packard physical id: 0 version: F.07 date: 08/09/2007 size: 109KiB capacity: 960KiB capabilities: isa pci pnp upgrade shadowing escd cdboot bootselect int5printscreen int *-cpu description: CPU

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#7 Re: 12.10 Slow and runs hot! let me guess: your computer has and AMD processor and you have an Nvidia video card,right? *-cpu description: CPU product: AMD Turion(tm) 64 X2 Mobile Technology TL-60 vendor: Hynix Semiconductor (Hyundai Electronics) physical id: 3 bus info: cpu@0 version: AMD Turion(tm) 64 X2 Mobile TL60 slot: Socket S1 size: 1600MHz capacity: 2GHz width: 64 bits clock: 200MHz capabilities: fpu fpu_exception wp vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt rdtscp x86-64 3dnowext 3dnow rep_good nopl extd_apicid pni cx16 lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8_legacy cpufreq Last edited by kuvanito; September 11th, 2012 at 09:42 PM..

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#8 Re: 12.10 Slow and runs hot! Quote: Originally Posted by robtygart

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Originally Posted by robtygart I have just installed 12.10, I now have the proper graphics installed. But everything is really sluggish and my fans are always running fast. Is there any way to speed things up, other then a lighter desktop? Maybe a different kernel? Some info about my PC Code:

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rob@mobile:~$ sudo lshw [sudo] password for rob: mobile description: Notebook product: () vendor: Hewlett-Packard version: Rev 1 serial: None width: 64 bits capabilities: smbios-2.4 dmi-2.4 vsyscall32 configuration: boot=oem-specific chassis=notebook family=103C_5335KV *-core description: Motherboard product: 30CF vendor: Quanta physical id: 0 version: 85.17 serial: None1 *-firmware:0 description: BIOS vendor: Hewlett-Packard physical id: 0 version: F.07 date: 08/09/2007 size: 109KiB capacity: 960KiB capabilities: isa pci pnp upgrade shadowing escd cdboot bootselect int5printscreen *-cpu description: CPU

Rob, see my previous answer to you in your other thread. You're using nouveau instead of nvidia-current. It will run with a lower performance and hotter like that - it's a known problem. You have to blacklist nouveau and install nvidia-current, as explained in details in that thread. I wouldn't expect a lightning fast performance from a PC with these specs. The Turion X2 64 is a 2006 CPU and NVidia 7150M was never considered a fast GPU. Ubuntu uses CPU/GPU more intensively now, as do other modern operating systems. I know you can improve your performance greatly with proper VGA drivers, removing some unused daemons, etc. But maybe Ubuntu is not the best choice here and you could give a try to some lighter flavors like Xubuntu or Lubuntu in this machine. Regards, Effenberg __________________ Join the U+1 Team! wiki.ubuntu.com/Effenberg0x0 www.Ideas2Projects.org Last edited by effenberg0x0; September 11th, 2012 at 10:37 PM..

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#9 Re: 12.10 Slow and runs hot! Quote: Originally Posted by effenberg0x0 Rob, see my previous answer to you in your other thread. You're using nouveau instead of nvidia-current. It will run with a lower performance and hotter like that - it's a known problem. You have to blacklist nouveau and install nvidia-current, as explained in details in that thread.

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I wouldn't expect a lightning fast performance from a PC with these specs. The Turion X2 64 is a 2006 CPU and NVidia 7150M was never considered a fast GPU. Ubuntu uses CPU/GPU more intensively now, as do other modern operating systems. I know you can improve your performance greatly with proper VGA drivers, removing some unused daemons, etc. But maybe Ubuntu is not the best choice here and you could give a try to some lighter flavors like Xubuntu or Lubuntu in this machine. Regards, Effenberg Thank you, I will go look. I am not expecting much from this, just hoping I could squeeze some extra life. I am also running Kubuntu 12.04 and its smooth. __________________ Rob Ubuntu-One Cloud Storage, Sync files between your comuters Back-up & Share files. Sign Up!

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#10 Re: 12.10 Slow and runs hot! Quote: Originally Posted by robtygart Thank you, I will go look. I am not expecting much from this, just hoping I could squeeze some extra life. I am also running Kubuntu 12.04 and its smooth. You definitely can run Ubuntu 12.10 on it if you fix this VGA drivers issue. Just blacklist nouveau, download and run nvidia installer (or try nvidia-current from repos - it's your choice), and things will look better, faster, cooler. It will help even if you decide to go Kubuntu, Lubuntu, Xubuntu, etc.

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Regards, Effenberg EDIT: Here's what you want to see in your lshw (driver = nvidia instead of nouveau): Quote: *-display description: VGA compatible controller product: GF106 [GeForce GTS 450] vendor: NVIDIA Corporation physical id: 0 bus info: pci@0000:01:00.0 version: a1 width: 64 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: pm msi pciexpress vga_controller bus_master cap_list rom configuration: driver=nvidia latency=0 Code: [18:44:58] ahsl@AL-DESK01:[~/dev/horus/c++-testing]: lsmod | grep -i nouveau

No output == nouveau is not in use! Code: [18:45:02] ahsl@AL-DESK01:[~/dev/horus/c++-testing]: lsmod | grep -i nv

Quote: nvidia 11257759 54 It shows the nvidia module is loaded. Code: [18:45:10] ahsl@AL-DESK01:[~/dev/horus/c++-testing]: modinfo nvidia

Quote: filename: /lib/modules/3.5.0-13-generic/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.ko alias: char-major-195-* version: 304.43 supported: external license: NVIDIA alias: pci:v000010DEd00000E00sv*sd*bc04sc80i00* alias: pci:v000010DEd00000AA3sv*sd*bc0Bsc40i00* alias: pci:v000010DEd*sv*sd*bc03sc02i00* alias: pci:v000010DEd*sv*sd*bc03sc00i00* depends: vermagic: 3.5.0-13-generic SMP mod_unload modversions parm: NVreg_EnableVia4x:int parm: NVreg_EnableALiAGP:int parm: NVreg_ReqAGPRate:int parm: NVreg_EnableAGPSBA:int parm: NVreg_EnableAGPFW:int parm: NVreg_Mobile:int parm: NVreg_ResmanDebugLevel:int parm: NVreg_RmLogonRC:int parm: NVreg_ModifyDeviceFiles:int parm: NVreg_DeviceFileUID:int parm: NVreg_DeviceFileGID:int parm: NVreg_DeviceFileMode:int parm: NVreg_RemapLimit:int parm: NVreg_UpdateMemoryTypes:int parm: NVreg_InitializeSystemMemoryAllocations:int parm: NVreg_UseVBios:int parm: NVreg_RMEdgeIntrCheck:int parm: NVreg_UsePageAttributeTable:int parm: NVreg_EnableMSI:int parm: NVreg_MapRegistersEarly:int parm: NVreg_RegisterForACPIEvents:int parm: NVreg_RegistryDwords:charp parm: NVreg_RmMsg:charp parm: NVreg_NvAGP:int __________________ Join the U+1 Team! wiki.ubuntu.com/Effenberg0x0 www.Ideas2Projects.org Last edited by effenberg0x0; September 11th, 2012 at 10:48 PM.. Reason: Added some helpful commands examples

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