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Venn Diagrams- Basics, Problems, Maxima and Minima by Total Gadha - Tue sday, 18 Se pte m be r 2007, 04:49 PM

For all the C AT aspirants taking C AT in 2009 or 2010, this chapter should provide some insight into Venn diagrams and methods for solving the problems. This chapter comes on the demand of some high octane TG users who are responsible for my lack of sleep and excessive intake of caffeine last night. I hope this resolves many of their problems in Venn diagrams.

Venn diagrams are pictorial representations used to display mathematical or logical relationships between two or more given sets (groups of things). The drawing consists of two or more circles, each representing a specific group. Each Venn diagram begins with a rectangle representing the universal set. Then each set in the problem is represented by a circle. Any values that belong to more than one set will be placed in the sections where the circles overlap. A typical venn diagram is shown in the figure below:

In the figure, set A contains the multiples of 2 which are less than 30 and set B contains multiples of 3 which are less than 25. Therefore, A = {2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 12... 26, 28} and B = {3, 6, 9, 12... 21, 24}. The various areas in the above diagram depict the following relationships: · Intersection (A ∩B)- Denotes the set of elements that are shared by two or more given sets. In the figure given below, the intersection of the two sets is shown.

A ∩ B = {6, 12, 18, 24} · ˜Only A or ˜Only B- The part of set A, or set B, which is not shared by any other set is known as "only A," or "only B." In the figure given below, the two parts are shown:

Only A = {2, 4, 8, 10, 14, 16, 20, 22, 26, 28}, only B = {3, 9, 15, 21} · Union (AUB)- Denotes all the elements of the given sets taken once.

A U B = {2, 3, 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 12, 14, 15, 16, 18, 20, 21, 22, 24, 26, 28} It can be seen that

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The venn diagram for three sets is shown below:

It can be shown that

Problem-solving through Venn diagrams: I use the following method to solve problems through Venn diagrams:

Solved Examples: Of all the users on Totalgadha.com, 80% spend time in C AT Quant-DI forum whereas 60% spend time in C AT verbal forum. If only those users will crack C AT who spend time in both the forums, what percentage of users of TotalGadha · · will crack C AT? will not crack C AT?

Answer: n(AUB) = n(A) + n(B) - n(A ∩B) à ž 100% = 80% + 60% - n(A ∩B) à ž n(A ∩B) = 40% Therefore, 40% users of TG will crack C AT. And 60% of users (only A + only B) will not crack C AT. NOTE: See that the surplus (superfluous part) can only be adjusted inside the area denoted for the intersection of the sets, a fact we will use in maxima- minima type of questions. A survey on a sample of 25 new cars being sold at a local auto dealer was conducted to see which of the three popular options — air conditioning, radio and power windows — were already installed. The survey found: 15 had air conditioning 2 had air conditioning and power windows but no radios 12 had radio 6 had air conditioning and radio but no power windows 11 had power windows 4 had radio and power windows 3 had all three options. What is the number of cars that had none of the options? (CAT 2003) 1. 4 2. 3 3. 1 Answer: We make the Venn diagram and start filling the areas as shown: 4. 2

Total Number of cars according to the diagram = 2 + 6 + 3 + 1 + 5 + 2 + 4 = 23. Therefore, number of cars having none of the given options = 25 - 23 = 2. New Age C onsultants have three consultants Gyani, Medha and Buddhi. The sum of the number of projects handled by Gyani and Buddhi individually is equal to the number of projects in which Medha is involved. All three consultants are involved together in 6 projects. Gyani works with Medha in 14 projects. Buddhi has 2 projects with Medha but without Gyani, and 3 projects with Gyani but without Medha. The total number of projects for New Age C onsultants is one less than twice the number of projects in which more than one consultant is involved.

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(CAT 2003- Leaked) What is the number of projects in which Gyani alone is involved? 1. 0 2. 1. 3. 4. 4. cannot be determined What is the number of projects in which Medha alone is involved? 1. 0 2. 1. 3. 4. 4. cannot be determined Answer: The Venn diagram for the three consultants is shown below:

Total Number of projects = 2 x number of projects in which more than one consultant is involved - 1 = 2 x 19 - 1 = 37. Therefore, X + 8 + 6 + 3 + Y + 2 + X + Y - 16 = 37 Ã ž X + Y = 17. The values of X or Y cannot be uniquely determined. Medha alone is involved in X + Y - 16 = 17 - 16 = 1 project. Concept of Maxima and Minima: 1. When the total number of elements is fixed Let's have a look at the Venn diagram of two sets again:

Imagine that in the beginning, the number of elements in all the areas is zero, as shown above. All the sets are empty right now. Let's see what happens if I insert one element inside A ∩B:

We can see that adding 1 element to A ∩B increases the number of elements in both A and B by 1. The total number of elements in all areas combined is 1 only (0 + 1 + 0) but if you add the number of elements in A and B (A + B), the addition will come up to 2. Therefore, adding 1 element to A ∩B gives an extra 1 element. Hence, for every surplus of 1 element we can add 1 element to A ∩B. Let’s see the Venn diagram for 3 sets:

In diagram 1, we have added 1 element to intersection of only two sets (A and B but not C ). We can see that A and B both increase by 1 and

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therefore we get a surplus of 1 element. In diagram 2, we have added 1 element to intersection of all the three sets (A and B and C ). We can see that A, B and C all three increase by 1 element each and therefore we get a surplus of 2 elements. Therefore, in case of three sets, we can accommodate the surplus by · adding elements to intersection of only two sets in which case a surplus of 1 element can be accommodated by increase of 1 element in the intersection of only two sets. · adding elements to intersection of three sets in which case a surplus of 2 elements can be accommodated by increase of 1 element in the intersection of three sets. How is this related to maxima and minima? Let's see: According to a survey, at least 70% of people like apples, at least 75% like bananas and at least 80% like cherries. What is the minimum percentage of people who like all three? Answer: Let's first calculate the surplus: percentage of people who like apples + percentage of people who like bananas + percentage of people who like cherries = 70% + 75% + 80% = 225% à ž a surplus of 125%. Now this surplus can be accommodated by adding elements to either intersection of only two sets or to intersection of only three sets. As the intersection of only two sets can accommodate only a surplus of 100%, the surplus of 25% will still be left. This surplus of 25% can be accommodated by adding elements to intersection of three sets. For that we have to take 25% out of the intersection of only two sets and add it to intersection of three sets. Therefore, the minimum percentage of people who like all three = 25% The question can be solved mathematically also. Let the elements added to intersection of only two sets and intersection of three sets be x and y, respectively. These elements will have to cover the surplus. -->x + 2y = 125%, where x + y £ 100%. For minimum value of y, we need maximum value of x. --> x = 75%, y = 25%. In a college, where every student follows at least one of the three activities- drama, sports, or arts- 65% follow drama, 86% follow sports, and 57% follow arts. What can be the maximum and minimum percentage of students who follow · all three activities · exactly two activities Answer: Let us again see the surplus: Percentage of students who follow drama + Percentage of students who follow sports + Percentage of students who follow arts = 65% + 86% + 57% = 208% à ž surplus = 108%. This surplus can be accommodated through adding elements either to intersection of only two sets or to intersection of only three sets. As the intersection of only two sets can accommodate only a surplus of 100%, the surplus of 8% will still be left. This surplus of 8% can be accommodated by adding elements to intersection of three sets. For that we have to take 8% out of the intersection of only two sets and add it to intersection of three sets. Therefore, the minimum percentage of people who like all three = 8%. In this case the percentage of students who follow exactly two activities will be maximum = 92%. The surplus of 108% can also be accommodated through adding elements to only intersection of three sets. As adding 1 element to intersection of three sets give a surplus of 2 sets, adding 54% to intersection of three sets will give a surplus of 108%. Therefore, the maximum value of students who follow all three activities is 54%. In this case the percentage of students who follow exactly two activities will be minimum = 0%. We can also solve it mathematically à ž x + 2y = 108%, where x + y £ 100%. The maximum value of x will give minimum value of y, whereas minimum value of x will give maximum value of y. 2. When the total number of elements is NOT fixed In this case we assign the variables to every area of the Venn diagram and form the conditions keeping two things in mind: · try to express the areas in the Venn diagram through least number of variables. · all the numbers will be zero or positive. No number can be negative. Out of 210 interviews of IIM- Ahmedabad, 105 C AT crackers were offered tea by the interview panel, 50 were offered biscuits, and 56 were offered toffees. 32 C AT crackers were offered tea and biscuits, 30 were offered biscuits and toffees, and 45 were offered toffees and tea. What is the · maximum and minimum number of C AT crackers who were offered all three snacks? · maximum and minimum number of C AT crackers who were offered at least one snack? Answer: Let’s make the Venn diagram for this question. Since we want to assume least number of variables, we can see that assuming a variable for the number of students who were offered all three snacks will help us express all the other areas. Let the number of students who were offered all three snacks = x.

In the above diagram, we have expressed all the areas in terms of x. To decide maximum value of x, we note that 32 - x, 45 - x and 30 - x will be zero or positive. Therefore, the maximum value of x will be 30. (30 is the lowest among 30, 32 and 45). To decide minimum value of

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As the maximum and minimum values of x are 30 and 19. A ne w article !!!! Ke e p up your good work . Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams.Basics. the surplus of 8% will still be left. 05:02 PM TG Sir ki jai ho Thanks a ton.Tue sday. 05:36 PM TG. Maxima and Minima by Sri KLR . Maxima and Minima by Vaidyanathan Gane san .. Therefore. Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. 18 Se pte m be r 2007.x + x + 45 . Reply Re: Venn Diagrams.com/mod/forum/discuss. Maxima and Minima by Gul Gul . 05:11 PM YAhooooooooo!!!!! Thnx TG Muahhhhhhhhh. Maximum and minimum number of C AT crackers who were offered at least one snack = 134 and 123. Percentage of students who follow drama + Percentage of students who follow sports + Percentage of students who follow arts = 65% + 86% + 57% = 208% à ž surplus = 108%.x + x .Basics.Tue sday..12 = 104 + x. 18 Se pte m be r 2007.19 and x – 12 will be zero or positive..Basics.Basics.19 + 30 . respectively. Problems. I am afraid I shall have to end here and leave the rest of it for my CBT Club students.7/5/13 MBA| CAT| CAT 2011| CAT 2012| CAT Online| MBA 2012| MBA Entrance Exams| CAT Test| Preparation| CAT Questions x.. For that we have to take 8% out of the intersection of only two sets and add it to intersection of three sets but here we are considering 3 sets. Problems.php?d=1262 5/41 . respectively.. Therefore. Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. 18 Se pte m be r 2007. This surplus can be accommodated through adding elements either to intersection of only two sets or to intersection of only three sets. As the intersection of only two sets can accommodate only a surplus of 100%. x cannot be less than 19 (19 is the higher number between 19 and 12). God Bless You! Small Wonder! Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. I was always on the look for your article s on the hom e page and this tim e i was not disappointe d. we note than x .. This surplus of 8% can be accommodated by adding elements to intersection of three sets.Tue sday.so how come u took only 2? the other 2 intersection are 0 then? Regards. Problems. 18 Se pte m be r 2007. totalgadha.Basics. Maxima and Minima by Sm all W onde r . 05:11 PM TG. maximum and minimum number of C AT crackers who were offered all three snacks = 30 and 19. Problems.x + x . Kishore.. . 18 Se pte m be r 2007. The number of C AT crackers who were offered at least one snack = Total number of C AT crackers in the Venn diagram = x + 28 + 32 ... Problems. I shall cover some problems based on this in the CBT Club this week. Maxima and Minima by k ishore ayyade vara .Tue sday.Tue sday. the maximum and minimum value of 104 + x will be 134 and 123. 05:24 PM Thank s a lot TG i could not ge t the following point..

.. 18 Se pte m be r 2007.Basics..... Ple ase give us som e proble m s on four dim e nsionals also.php?d=1262 6/41 .. Problems.. why isnt it m ore than 100? if the 3 shade d portions are a..fe e l re lie ve d now..C AT(W e ) is (are ) going thru Te sting tim e s. Kishore . 06:31 PM He re .c . Maxima and Minima by Total Gadha .. Problems. Maxima and Minima by Software Engine e r .no think ing ne e de d from now on.e ..u said that the inte rse ction can tak e a m ax im um surplus of 100% but. as e x e rcise on Q uant-DI forum .. the n what if a+b = 100%(i. 18 Se pte m be r 2007. 08:05 PM hi TG.. Maxima and Minima by the unde rdog . Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams.but NO m ore .... re lally ! Thank You. 07:09 PM Hi Kishore . Maxima and Minima by King Kong .. the are a in re d is the inte rse ction of only two se ts. the quality of conte nt is be st.Basics. Maxima and Minima by padm ase lvan lak shm an .. the thing is.Basics.. 18 Se pte m be r 2007. I have se e n one prob in cat 2 ye ars back .Tue sday... I have k inda pre m onition that C AT m ight re ar it's ugly he ad again.Basics.. Problems.one tough ve nn prob. x +2y and x +y is too good.Basics..will ge t back with it.don re m e m be r. Problems..Basics. 18 Se pte m be r 2007. Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams.. Problems... 08:12 PM "we are not worthy" "we are not worthy"* totalgadha..Tue sday.... Thanx a lot for such a wonde rful article . So far I use d hit and trial... Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams.com/mod/forum/discuss. Total Gadha Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams.. Maxima and Minima by k ishore ayyade vara .. Software Engine e r Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams..Tue sday..Tue sday. pls give us a quiz on Ve nn Diag for practice .b. "inte rse ction of only two se ts" m e ans are a containing inte rse ction of two se ts but not the third se t.Tue sday.. 18 Se pte m be r 2007... 07:38 PM hi TG....I lik e e quations. In the figure give n be low. all the conte nts of the first circle are in the shade d part) and c>0? R e gards. Problems.. 07:01 PM TG == Too Good !!?? [ ] Awe som e stuff. as sugge ste d e arlie r.Tue sday. 18 Se pte m be r 2007.7/5/13 MBA| CAT| CAT 2011| CAT 2012| CAT Online| MBA 2012| MBA Entrance Exams| CAT Test| Preparation| CAT Questions Good m e thod to solve m ax and m in. U have m ade m ax im a and m inim a look a lot m ore e asie r through this article . Also give som e m ore prob on ve nns.

thanks TG! Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams.d. Show parent | Reply totalgadha..7/5/13 MBA| CAT| CAT 2011| CAT 2012| CAT Online| MBA 2012| MBA Entrance Exams| CAT Test| Preparation| CAT Questions * from the movie "Wayne's World" hehe.. e for e x actly 2.Tue sday.Tue sday.php?d=1262 7/41 . 09:34 PM He lp m e in the following proble m TG All stude nts in a class of 100 atte nde d a sum m e r cam p..Basics.Tue sday. Maxima and Minima by Gul Gul . 08:49 PM Thanx a tonne Tg . 09:25 PM +1 Gullz Golu Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams..e .c. 18 Se pte m be r 2007. Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. How can som e thing be m ore than 100%? If I have give n you 10 boys at m ost can you have m ore than 10 boys com bining all the are as? Total Gadha Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. 18 Se pte m be r 2007. C rick e t and hock e y. a stude nts had e nrolle d for hock e y b for football c for crick e t Also d stude nts had e nrolle d for e actly 1 sport. Maxima and Minima by Gul Gul .Tue sday. Problems. Problems. God Ble ss You Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. 08:34 PM Hi Kishore . Maxima and Minima by Ak on C onvict .Basics.. of stude nts who e nrolle d for atle ast 1 sport is ? Q 2 If a is le ss than b as we ll as c. f for e x actly 3 and g stude nts had not e nrolle d for any of the thre e sports.. Problems. It was worth waiting for such a long tim e for this article . of stude nts who e nrolle d only for hock e y is ? Ple ase He lp. Maxima and Minima by Total Gadha . the no. 08:32 PM Thank U ve ry m uch TG.. 09:18 PM a topic on cube s also ple ase . Each stude nt had the option of e nrolling for coaching in atm ost 3 nam e ly Football.Tue sday. R e gards Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams... what is the m ax im um possible value of c? Q 2 If a.b. one re que st Sir . Problems. Maxima and Minima by C razy C AT ..Basics.plz give som e tips lik e this on functions and graph article also. Q 1 If d>e >f and c is le ss than a as we ll as b. 18 Se pte m be r 2007.. Maxima and Minima by the unde rdog .Tue sday. Problems. 18 Se pte m be r 2007.Basics..Basics.com/mod/forum/discuss. Problems.f and g are all distinct the m inim um possible no. 18 Se pte m be r 2007. 18 Se pte m be r 2007.Basics.

Se e if this is cle ar: Say all stude nts = 100 % in te rm s of e quation a1+a2+a3=100 and we have a1+2a2+3a3=208... 18 Se pte m be r 2007.. Problems..W e dne sday. that's what we all lik e about this site . i could not ge t how x +y = 100%.. Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. Problems. 18 Se pte m be r 2007. 02:23 AM nw plz. Problems.C are 100% e ach what i find is the thrice inte rse cte d part(part com m on to all the circle s) is counte d thrice and (AnB) (BnC )(C nA) are counte d twice com ing to the proble m . 19 Se pte m be r 2007.Basics.u m ay hav a re st.Basics. 09:35 PM TG se e m s i m ade som e horrible inte rpre tations the n thought A ..W e dne sday......bt u came wid a bang.i thot u r lost somewhere.Tue sday....Basics.le t us hav a sip f d sam e caffie ne .Basics. Maxima and Minima by k ishore ayyade vara .Tue sday.... 08:17 AM gre at Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams.com/mod/forum/discuss.i was having proble m s with inte rpre ting the assum ptions and thank s TG for this use ful article Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams.Basics.. 11:09 PM Ex haustive ye t Sim ple that. Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. Problems..do u m e an to say that the e le m e nts be longing to ONLY A . 92+2*8=108 se e now a1+a2+a3 = 100 is m aintaine d.Basics.B. 19 Se pte m be r 2007. 02:21 AM nw iv gone mad. Subtract the above 2 e quations we haave a2+2a3=108 now a3 should be m inim um 8 and a2 m ax im um 92 i.bt u. thnx TG sir. 10:01 PM Kishore . Also a3 m ax = 54 in this case a2=0 and a1 will tak e 46... Maxima and Minima by Abhi S .tak e care TG sir. Is it a bit cle ar now? Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. Kishore .Tue sday.. so the surplus 108% should be distribute d in the following way x +2y = 108% ( whe re x is the inte rse ction of 2 circle s n y is com m on to thre e ) m y proble m is .Basics. Maxima and Minima by Gul Gul . Maxima and Minima totalgadha.s ur trade m ark . Problems. Maxima and Minima by k ishore ayyade vara . 19 Se pte m be r 2007. Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams.e . B... Maxima and Minima by Abhi S . Maxima and Minima by Top C AT .W e dne sday. Problems... 10:40 AM Thank You Gullz it's cle ar now.. Problems...php?d=1262 8/41 . 19 Se pte m be r 2007.7/5/13 MBA| CAT| CAT 2011| CAT 2012| CAT Online| MBA 2012| MBA Entrance Exams| CAT Test| Preparation| CAT Questions Re: Venn Diagrams.... Problems. 18 Se pte m be r 2007.C are all ze ro and e ve ry e le m e nt lie s in the inte rse ction parts? R e gards.Basics..W e dne sday. Maxima and Minima by anand pani .

I can solve it through the fundas m e ntione d in the article only.. Se pte m be r: 28.Basics. 03:06 PM TG I fe e l asham e d to le arn so m uch from you for fre e .. I am not pre paring you for a Math O lym piad but C AT only.. Le t m e try.com/mod/forum/discuss.Basics. 19 Se pte m be r 2007. 12:41 PM Sir. Maxima and Minima by ravi k um ar .W e dne sday. 19 Se pte m be r 2007. Problems. Maxima and Minima by dine sh m unna .W e dne sday.. Maxima and Minima by Tom Goe l ... Maxima and Minima by Gul Gul .7/5/13 MBA| CAT| CAT 2011| CAT 2012| CAT Online| MBA 2012| MBA Entrance Exams| CAT Test| Preparation| CAT Questions by Gul Gul .W e dne sday.php?d=1262 9/41 . Plz he lp so that i can be com ple te ly confide nt in this topic. Also fe e l sorry for ppl who are not gadhas ye t totalgadha. Problems.W e dne sday.thanq Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams.a word of thank s for TG not from the k e yboard but from he art.Basics. None of the thre e m onths: 24. 19 Se pte m be r 2007. Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. 19 Se pte m be r 2007. 01:22 PM Hi Dine sh. Maxima and Minima by Total Gadha . W hat is the num be r of surve ye d pe ople who have re ad e x actly two conse cutive issue s (out of the thre e )? (1) 7 (2) 9 (3) 12 (4) 14 (5) 17 The article alre ady has que stion that cam e in pre vious C AT pape rs. Have a look at the Ve nn diagram proble m that cam e in C AT 2006: A surve y was conducte d of 100 pe ople to find out whe the r the y had re ad re ce nt issue s of Golm al. Se pte m be r and July: 28. 01:46 PM Hi Tom . 19 Se pte m be r 2007..W e dne sday. 02:06 PM TG PLZ he lp out in the que stion poste d i was able to crack half que stions in that se t but the re st half poste d is posing som e proble m ..I was e x pe cting you to put sum fundae s on solving proble m s lik e the one just poste d he re by sum guy..W e dne sday. Total Gadha Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. +1 re grading article on cube s . Total Gadha Show parent | Reply I can ce rtainly im agine the hours on 'paint' I will have to spe nd to draw im age s of cube s Re: Venn Diagrams. Problems.Pls luk into it and fit ur solution into that.. I since re ly be lie ve that this is all that you ne e d to k now to tack le Ve nn diagram proble m s in C AT. July: 48. The sum m arize d inform ation re garding re ade rship in 3 m onths is give n be low: O nly Se pte m be r: 18.Basics.. Unfortunate ly. 10:46 AM Thank s to TG.W e dne sday. Thank s a lot and k e e p the good work going. Problems.Basics. Se pte m be r but not August: 23. The re has be e n no m e ntion of e ve n m ax im a or m inim a in C AT... 19 Se pte m be r 2007. a m onthly m agazine . Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams.. 01:30 PM I k now what we can say in re spe ct of TG falls ve ry short of what he de se rve s. Problems.) Am it Goe l Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. As for the fundas for solving proble m s lik e the one poste d he re . July and August: 10.I am sorry but this article was not e x actly what i e x pe cte d. Problems. Maxima and Minima by Total Gadha . Give m e your addre ss I want to se nd you som e gurudak shina. 19 Se pte m be r 2007.Basics.

.Basics.e 210. Maxima and Minima by Total Gadha . Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. You said that the re are two case s for solving m ax im a and m inim a proble m s. Jite ndra Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. 19 Se pte m be r 2007.. Maxima and Minima by Abhishe k De b . I gue ss total no of e le m e nts im ply AUBUC ? Be cause in the last que stion of C AT inte rvie we rs .any he lp from anyone is also we lcom e on this. will it be 54%.W e dne sday.W e dne sday.7/5/13 be st re gards R avi Kum ar MBA| CAT| CAT 2011| CAT 2012| CAT Online| MBA 2012| MBA Entrance Exams| CAT Test| Preparation| CAT Questions Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams...powe r windows(PW ). Thank s..The n how can we classify the que stion to fall unde r fix e d e le m e nts or not? Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. The sum m arize d inform ation re garding re ade rship in 3 m onths is give n be low: O nly Se pte m be r: 18. arts ques.. b.. 09:04 PM HI TG .. Maxima and Minima by Nitin Jain . total no of e le m e nts are fixed i.. It would re ally be gre at if you tak e som e tim e to e x plain this . In the proble m of cars having AC s.. I wanted to know one thing that u said that "minimum values of the students following three activities will be 54% max in drama.Basics.. e . Maxima and Minima by jite ndra havaldar . Problems. le ase give m e the options. July and August: 10. In the form e r the total no of e le m e nts are fix e d and in the latte r the total no of e le m e nts are not fix e d.W e dne sday. 05:14 PM Hello TG Ple ase clarify m y doubt. Se pte m be r but not August: 23. d. Problems. 19 Se pte m be r 2007..?If not then how to solve it. Se pte m be r: 28.. Se pte m be r and July: 28. Abhishek... 19 Se pte m be r 2007. Problems.radio(R ) i didn't unde rstand the way you have splitte d the radio and the powe r windows part by tak ing (4-3) = 1 in the are a com m on to both R & PW .Basics. 04:37 PM Hi TG.. A surve y was conducte d of 100 pe ople to find out whe the r the y had re ad re ce nt issue s of Golm al.Thursday. 19 Se pte m be r 2007.W e dne sday. 01:02 AM Hi Gullz.com/mod/forum/discuss. a m onthly m agazine . 20 Se pte m be r 2007.. Maxima and Minima by sun is he re .Basics. Problems. f or othe rwise . 04:49 PM Hi TG. July: 48.php?d=1262 10/41 . I wanted to know then what will be the min of all the ppl having two activities interest. Problems. None of the thre e m onths: 24..Basics. Total Gadha totalgadha. W hat is the num be r of surve ye d pe ople who have re ad e x actly two conse cutive issue s (out of the thre e )? (1) 7 (2) 9 (3) 12 (4) 14 (5) 17 iam not able to solve this proble m ple ase throw som e light on it Thank s Sun Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. I calculate d highe st value of c as 48% assum ing som e value s but I do not k now if you ne e d answe r in te rm s of a.

.. 07:47 AM Hi Gullz how did you ge t the e quation a1+2a2+3a3=108?? C ould you ple ase e x plain. Maxima and Minima by R V . July and August: 10. W hat is the num be r of surve ye d pe ople who have re ad e x actly two conse cutive issue s (out of the thre e )? (1) 7 (2) 9 (3) 12 (4) 14 (5) 17 are the se figure s corre ct?? Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams.Basics. Problems.d. 20 Se pte m be r 2007.. Total Gadha Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams.Basics. 20 Se pte m be r 2007. Problems.I m in office and i forgot 2 bring the pape r in which the que stion was give n i will de finite ly post it in the e ve ning. Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams.b. Problems. Maxima and Minima by Mohit Goyal . Se pte m be r: 28. 10:31 AM Hi TG.Basics. Maxima and Minima by Gul Gul . 01:07 AM A surve y was conducte d of 100 pe ople to find out whe the r the y had re ad re ce nt issue s of Golm al.Basics.php?d=1262 11/41 . Thank you Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. Se pte m be r but not August: 23. July: 48. 10:17 AM Hi Sun is he re . Mohit Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams..c. 20 Se pte m be r 2007. 20 Se pte m be r 2007.com but i re ally be lie ve that you are doing a Noble Job Sir.7/5/13 MBA| CAT| CAT 2011| CAT 2012| CAT Online| MBA 2012| MBA Entrance Exams| CAT Test| Preparation| CAT Questions Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams.. 09:41 AM R V a1 only 1 a2 e x actly 2 a3 e x actly 3 whe n you add all a2 is adde d twice and a3 thrice se e a ve nn diagram for 3 circle s u will ge t it. of stude nts who e nrolle d for atle ast 1 sport is ? a) 9 b)12 c) 15 d) none Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams.Thursday. Maxima and Minima by Gul Gul . The sum m arize d inform ation re garding re ade rship in 3 m onths is give n be low: O nly Se pte m be r: 18. W onde rful Atte m pt to une arth the C once pts of ve nn Dig !! I have som e ve ry inte re sting se ts on Ve nn dig and will shortly post the m but only if you prom ise to re ply m e afte r solving cause i have poste d 2 que rie s e arlie r n dint ge t ne re ply. 20 Se pte m be r 2007.Hats O ff .. 20 Se pte m be r 2007. But i re m e m be r the options for following que stion Q 2 If a. Problems..Thursday. The options to this C AT 2006 que stion are NOT corre ct.Thursday.Thursday. Problems.Thursday.. 10:57 AM k ne w you we re tak ing a while since u had to write it up to your standard which is e x ce lle nt :>:> you rock !! totalgadha. 20 Se pte m be r 2007.Thursday. Maxima and Minima by Total Gadha . Problems..Thursday. Maxima and Minima by Mou Suk oshi . Problems.. Maxima and Minima by SS VV .Basics.Basics.f and g are all distinct the m inim um possible no.. September and July: 28.Basics. This was one of the two que stions in C AT 2006 that was wrong. None of the thre e m onths: 24. a m onthly m agazine .I am not a re gular use r of TG.com/mod/forum/discuss.e .... 09:37 AM TG m so sorry i didnt write the options.

Basics. I think Sum of Not individually. Now I am trying to find only apples. y = 25%. 03:18 PM TG. u re ally rock . AnB excluding C . Maxima and Minima by Total Gadha ..Basics. god ble ss u!! Show parent | Reply ) Re: Venn Diagrams. 20 Se pte m be r 2007. 20 Se pte m be r 2007. Maxima and Minima by Arun Prasad G . Maxima and Minima by ravi te ja .php?d=1262 12/41 .Thursday. 03:41 PM He y Arun.Basics.am im pre sse d.Thursday.com/mod/forum/discuss. x + 2y = 125%..Thursday. it is regarding this problem of apples. Problems.love ly article .any word of praise wud be le ss. and AnB excluding C as 75. Maxima and Minima by Nitin Jain . For minimum value of y.Basics. 03:12 PM Hi TG Pls re ply to m y post also give n above . I wrote AnBnC as 25. only banana's and only cherries.. BnC excluding A as 75 and so on. Total Gadha Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. Also I have posted a query on your "How to find the Units Digit of a Number?" . bananas and cherries.. Do post your proble m s. 20 Se pte m be r 2007. Maxima and Minima by rishi sawla . 20 Se pte m be r 2007.Thursday.Thursday. I wanted to fit this back into the venn diagrams and I am totally confused.. we need maximum value of x. I will ce rtainly re ply to you.Basics. Please respond tp that also..Thursday. BnC excluding A and AnC excluding B is 75. 05:03 PM hai gulz.. But after solving this.. Maxima and Minima by gourav k alra . Problems. 20 Se pte m be r 2007. Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. 01:24 PM He y.7/5/13 MBA| CAT| CAT 2011| CAT 2012| CAT Online| MBA 2012| MBA Entrance Exams| CAT Test| Preparation| CAT Questions Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. --> x = 75%. Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams.. For example. Thank s Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. Problems. I am not able to get it fully as I am not getting 100% after writing individual percentages. THANK YOU VERY MUC H FOR YOUR WONDERFUL C ONTRIBUTION TO ALL ASPIRANTS. Problems. Please explain this to me. 02:43 PM Hi Mohit. totalgadha. Problems. 20 Se pte m be r 2007. I understand this. where x + y £ 100%. Problems. ITS FANTASTIC TO READ EAC H AND EVERY ARTIC LE OF YOURS.Basics.

what is the m ax im um possible value of c? O ptions a) 63 b)64 c)65 d)66 e ) none If a.7/5/13 MBA| CAT| CAT 2011| CAT 2012| CAT Online| MBA 2012| MBA Entrance Exams| CAT Test| Preparation| CAT Questions i was not able to solve e ve n a single que stion in the se t u m e ntione d. it has be e n m e ntione d that e ve ry stude nt follows at le ast one activity.. are give n.Friday. 11:21 AM hello Tg totalgadha. 09:04 AM TG so sorry ye ste rday ne t was nt work ing at m y place . Total Gadha Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams.d. 49 can be allote d to the inte rse ction of H and C only as we have to m ax crick e t (C ) the n inte rse ction of F&C Xonly= 0 inte rse ction of F&H Xonly=0 the re m aining part can tak e 51 which should be divide d as 16+17+18 and the 16 should be allote d to crick e t(C ) and 17 and 18 can be allote d to only F and only H.Thursday. This k ind of state m e nt is critical to de te rm ine that AUBUC is fix e d. Maxima and Minima by Gul Gul .f and g are all distinct the m inim um possible no. 20 Se pte m be r 2007.php?d=1262 13/41 . 08:09 AM hi Gullz.e . Maxima and Minima by sonal singh .. if it is not give n that e ve ry pe rson be longs to at le ast one cate gory. 20 Se pte m be r 2007. 05:20 PM for GO LU'S que stion . Problems.can u pass the answe r to m e too if u ge t it ple ase . Eve n if the total num be r of stude nts/pe ople e tc...Basics. 21 Se pte m be r 2007.he re r d options If d>e >f and c is le ss than a as we ll as b. Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams.. Problems.Friday... 21 Se pte m be r 2007.I hav 2 go 4 a full day training Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. In the pre vious se ts. Problems. thank s for the e x planation.Friday. only hock e y+only football+only crick e t > both H & C and not F +both C & Fand not H+both F & Hand not C > ALL THR EE m e ans H only + F only + C only > inte rse ction of 2 only > inte rse ction of 3 we can tak e inte rse ction of 3 as 0 now inte rse ction of 2 gam e s only can tak e a m ax value of 49. of stude nts who e nrolle d for atle ast 1 sport is ? a)9 b)10 c)11 d) 13 e ) none If a is le ss than b as we ll as c. Problems.Basics.b.Basics.Basics.. This is be cz of the condition (C has to be le ss than A and B) SO 0+0+49+16 = 65 IS THE MAX VALUE C R IC KET C AN TAKE PAR T 2 &3 O F THE Q IS NO T C O MPLETE Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. Maxima and Minima by R V .Basics. c re spe ctive ly. 21 Se pte m be r 2007. the n only the othe r re m aining part can be 51 and be gre ate r.Thursday. of stude nts who e nrolle d only for hock e y is ? a) 32 b) 48 c) 49 d) 50 e ) none Answe rs are c.if ne e de d i can provide the options too. AUBUC is not fix e d. Problems.com/mod/forum/discuss. Maxima and Minima by ne e lak anta siva .c. RV Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. the no. Maxima and Minima by Total Gadha . e . 07:46 PM Hi Nitin. i unde rstood it.

but still ge tting que s with m ore difficulty. i trie d this que s by the above m e ntione d funda in your post. Found ur Ve nn diagram topic ve ry he lpful.com/mod/forum/discuss. The survey found: 15 had air conditioning 2 had air conditioning and power windows but no radios 12 had radio 6 had air conditioning and radio but no power windows 11 had power windows 4 had radio and power windows 3 had all three options.Saturday. radio and power windows — were already installed. the inte rse ction of 4 se ts can accom m odate a surplus of 3 pe r e le m e nt.php?d=1262 14/41 . 2 Total Number of cars according to the diagram = 2 + 6 + 3 + 1 + 5 + 2 + 4 = 23.Basics. Please explain how did u get 4-3 =1 for the following..Basics. Going by this m anne r. the surplus accom m odate d = 90 × 2 + 10 × 3 = 210%. 80% from dise ase B. the m inim um value of P = 10%. The inte rse ction of 3 se ts can accom m odate a surplus of 2 pe r e le m e nt. Problems.Basics.Friday.. I am facing proble m in ge tting the logic of the que stion m e ntione d be low. 1 Answer: We make the Venn diagram and start filling the areas as shown: 4. Maxima and Minima by Total Gadha . The re fore . 75% from C and 85% from dise ase D and "P%" from all the four dise ase s. 09:04 PM Thank s for the brilliant article TG. The m ax im um will be whe n P accom m odate s all the surplus. Therefore. Problems. The re fore .. What is the number of cars that had none of the options? (CAT 2003) 1. In a town 70% of the pe rsons suffe r from dise ase A.Friday. 3 3. Q . 4 2. surplus = 210%. 21 Se pte m be r 2007. Maxima and Minima by Saurabh Goyal .. thanks sonal Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. Maxima and Minima by Sum it Singla . The surplus of 10% would be le ft. 22 Se pte m be r 2007. number of cars having none of the given options = 25 . Problems.. 11:50 AM Hi Saurabh. but not ge tting any whe re with the logic. you can quick ly obtain that if you k e e p 90% in inte rse ction of 2 se ts and 10% in the inte rse ction of 3 se ts. A + B + C + D = 310%. Som e thing that I solve d m ostly by hit and trial has be e n m ade sim ple e nough to be solve d ve rbally! YO U R O C K!! Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams.23 = 2. Find the m inim um value of P. m ax im um value = 210/3 = 70% Show parent | Reply totalgadha.7/5/13 MBA| CAT| CAT 2011| CAT 2012| CAT Online| MBA 2012| MBA Entrance Exams| CAT Test| Preparation| CAT Questions Thanks for such a wonderful article. The m ax im um surplus it can accom m odate is 2 × 100% = 200%. 11:46 PM Hi Tg. 21 Se pte m be r 2007. Now you can de cre ase inte rse ction of two se ts and shift the de cre ase d am ount in the inte rse ction of 3 se ts. Now. will it be 200% of surplus now?as the com m on 1 be twe e n all four fie lds will be incre ase d by 1 in com parison to 3 fie lds??? Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams.and 15 had air conditioning specify all the elements in B or Only B survey on a sample of 25 new cars being sold at a local auto dealer was conducted to see which of the three popular options — air conditioning. The re fore .

29 Se pte m be r 2007. 11:09 PM hi TG nice article . totalgadha. Thank s a lot TG Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams.. Thank you ve ry m uch. Maxima and Minima by Total Gadha .Basics. Maxima and Minima by am it sharm a . Maxima and Minima by Abhra C hatte rje e . 25 Se pte m be r 2007. I am ve ry m uch thank ful to you. 11:31 AM Hi Gullz. Maxima and Minima by nitin ve rm a . 08:42 PM C itie s.. Problems.7/5/13 MBA| CAT| CAT 2011| CAT 2012| CAT Online| MBA 2012| MBA Entrance Exams| CAT Test| Preparation| CAT Questions Re: Venn Diagrams. Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams.and ple ase do add for com bination of four se ts.. 24 Se pte m be r 2007. but your docile e x planation is so cle ar that any sane pe rson can grasp it.Tue sday.Basics.Basics.Basics. Le t m e have a go at it. 30 Se pte m be r 2007.com/mod/forum/discuss.. Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams.Basics... 06:14 PM A too good article .Basics.php?d=1262 15/41 .Basics.e sp lik e d m ax im a m inim a application in it. 27 Se pte m be r 2007.( it was a proble m with 5 se ts of data ove rlapping) . Maxima and Minima by Gul Gul ... I will com e back to you with m ore such re que st. Maxima and Minima by abc abc ... I thank you for e nte rtaining m y re que st of e x plaining m y doubt. Problems. so I think I m ight not have unde rstood the proble m prope rly. 03:39 PM Hi TG.Basics.. Problems.doc Hi TG .W e dne sday. 01:56 PM Thank s a ton for this one !!!!!! This topic has not figure d at le ngth in m ost of the note s available to stude nts !!!! Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams...Thursday.. 25 Se pte m be r 2007. You are he lping cat aspirants in a big way.Tue sday.Saturday..Monday. Problems. I have a doubt re garding the ve nn diagram s article . Problems.Thursday.. Had a proble m on sim ilar line s in Mock C AT 6 of tim e and trie d using the funda . Have tak e n the printout of your que stion. You wont be lie ve be fore i struggle d hard to unde rstand the conce pt but could not. 02:28 AM Hi TG It was a goog article but i have one que ry In the above que we e scape the inte rse ction of 2 se t which can accom odate 1 surplus pe r e le m e nt and if we considde r it the n m in value of P=0 . Maxima and Minima by swe ta x . Problems. YO ur e x planation is fantastic and e asy to grasp. Problems. Total Gadha Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams.. Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. 27 Se pte m be r 2007. 08:52 AM TG options r give n now. Problems. 26 Se pte m be r 2007..And I m ust say thank you for all the since re e ffort put into m ak ing MBA pre p e asie r for all of us...Sunday. I lik e this site ve ry m uch. Maxima and Minima by shinjini m ondal .. I've be e n following your forum since long now ..

2 O ctobe r 2007. 12:35 PM for the 1st one a+b+c-e -2f+g=100 also d+e +f+g =100 now a+b+c = 100+e +2f-g so e +2f+-g should be m ax . Maxima and Minima by Uthay Mathi .. Maxima and Minima by ran for_cat . Maxima and Minima by Alpa de dhia .Sunday.php?d=1262 16/41 . Problems. re gards Alpa Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. 30 Se pte m be r 2007..Basics.. Problems. 1 O ctobe r 2007. is 37 the answe r . 05:21 PM This is a cool stuff de ar TG. now d+e +f+g =100 and d>e >f ==> for e and f to be as m ax as possible e should be 32 and f is 33. for the first que stion i have sim ply tak e n the le ast num be r of pe ople in e ach citie s who can opt for all the qualitie s .Basics.Tue sday. Problems.com/mod/forum/discuss. 2 O ctobe r 2007. Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams.(g=0 and f=35) so a+b+c =100+32+66=198 so for a>c and b>c c can have a m ax value of 65 he re .Basics.whe re a contains all the e le m e nts distinct from b and c Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams..Basics.Basics. 11:13 PM re e e e e e e e e e aaaallly ve ry goood. can u e x plain sam e things in case of 4 or 5 circle ve nn diagram s. for the 3rd que stion b>a and c>a ==> le t say b and c constitute s the sam e e le m e nts in that case the m ax possible value of a is 49. Maxima and Minima by lavik a gupta . Problems. Maxima and Minima by pranav te ndolk ar ..Tue sday. 3 O ctobe r 2007. for the 2nd que stion: a+b+c-e -2f+g=100 d+e +f+g =100 k e e p d=0 ==> we can che ck for any arbitary value s of e f and g that the distinct value s are possible e +f+g =100 or g=1 e =50 f=49 a+b+c =100 -1 +50+49=198 a b c can have diffe re nt value s he re as we ll...Monday.. Problems.W e dne sday. 10:23 AM Hi swe ta.. is the re any the ore tical way othe r than drawing ve nn diagram as highe r diagram s are com ple x Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. 04:26 PM totalgadha.7/5/13 Attache d MBA| CAT| CAT 2011| CAT 2012| CAT Online| MBA 2012| MBA Entrance Exams| CAT Test| Preparation| CAT Questions is the proble m and m y approach ... ple ase le t m e k nw.. I'd be ve ry gr8ful if u could te ll m e whats wrong with m y approach !!!!!!!!!!!! Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. so the no is 26+25+26+18+15+29 = 139 for the se cond que stion .

.Saturday. Maxima and Minima by swe ta x ... 07:04 AM TG Sir Mindblowing article Absolute ly te rrific !!! Thnx a lot Sir if u can he lp with one article on Graphs (line ar. of pe ople who e at all the 6 type of food. 11:59 AM Kudos Sir. 91% e at north Indian food. W hat m ust be the m inim um no.. i have a proble m pls solve it. U got it right how did u solve the se cond one (37) Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams.. 3 O ctobe r 2007. 11:20 AM re ally a ve ry gud article t g sir. 79% e at italin food and 80% e at contine ntal food. C an we m inim ise the only thre e part as i e x plaine d.php?d=1262 17/41 .W e dne sday.quadratic.82% e at Am e rican food .Basics.Saturday.. 11:34 PM He y Alpha.pls post som e te x t on functions... if 7 pe ople do not e at any of the 6 type s of food? A:0 B:13 c:27 D:55 Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams.. mindblowing. only Banana and C he rry = 40% re m aining 5 can be only Banana..W e dne sday...... 11:51 PM Hi TG In the first e x am pe proble m of m ax im a & m inim a u have m e ntione d "As the inte rse ction of only two se ts can accom m odate only a surplus of 100%".. 78% e at C hine se food..m odulus. 3 O ctobe r 2007. Maxima and Minima by sgx 100 O nline . CM Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. 1 A surve y was conducte d on the e ating habits of a group of 1000 pe ople . Maxima and Minima by shriram sam ant .Thursday.. superb... Maxima and Minima by Varun C houdhary ..How it can be only 100% why cant we accom m adate the suplus of 110% as follows? only Apple and Banana = 30%.7/5/13 MBA| CAT| CAT 2011| CAT 2012| CAT Online| MBA 2012| MBA Entrance Exams| CAT Test| Preparation| CAT Questions hi tg. Thank s & R e gards.re sults show that 92% of the pe ople surve ye d e at south Indian food. 6 O ctobe r 2007. 6 O ctobe r 2007...only apple and che rry = 40%....Saturday. 05:10 PM fantastic.. Problems. 6 O ctobe r 2007. Problems.) it wud be re ally he lpful to all of us Thank ing You Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. totalgadha. Ple ase he lp m e . 4 O ctobe r 2007.m ax im a and m inim a Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams.Basics..Basics. Problems.. Maxima and Minima by Kum ar M .Basics. Problems.Basics. Problems.. Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. Maxima and Minima by ashish tyagi .com/mod/forum/discuss..Basics. Problems.

7 dont like any of the 6 types.Basics. Thank s a lot!! Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. W hat m ust be the m inim um no. we can have at most 993 * 4 = 3972 ppl surplus. Som e body Ple ase he lp !!!! Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. 7 O ctobe r 2007.Basics. Now the surplus = [(93+89+81+75+78) . Find the minimum number of people liking all the the 5 channels. I am not able to solve this que stion prope rly: A survey about Tv viewership was conducted on 100 respondents.Saturday. 15 O ctobe r 2007. The total num be r of pe ople watching any of the se channe ls = (100-1)=99(I don't watch any).. 3 channe l groups = 3.99] = 317. Again for e ve ry incre ase in the num be r of pe ople watching 4 channe ls. 13 O ctobe r 2007.. the re is actually a 20% incre ase from the initial (I am not sure whe the r we have to conside r all the 5 com binations or not).. 91% e at north Indian food. Problems. the re sultant incre ase = [9-5]/5 = 80%. A surve y was conducte d on the e ating habits of a group of 1000 pe ople . So the surplus we have be e n able to cove r till now = (100+180+160) = 340.. 12:01 PM TG Sir. the re is a re sultant incre ase of [8-5]/5 = 60% (He re also are we to conside r the total num be r of com binations possible ). ATB! Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. The n for e ve ry incre ase in the num be r of pe ople watching 3 channe ls.Thursday. 75 liked zee cinema. Maxima and Minima by Abhra C hatte rje e . I have no words to de scribe the am azing work you are doing . total= 920 + 910 + 820 + 780 + 790 + 800 = 5020 Of the 1000 ppl.Basics. Maxima and Minima by Prasad L . 81 liked Stratv. Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. of pe ople who e at all the 6 type of food. Remaining surplus to be accomodated in the portion where all 6 groups intersect = 4027 -3972 = totalgadha... the TIME m ate rial also has som e quick m e thods to crack the ve nn diagram s. Problems.Sunday.php?d=1262 18/41 .. 4 channe l groups = 2. Now for e ve ry incre ase in the num be r of vie we rs watching two channe ls. 11 O ctobe r 2007.. 79% e at italin food and 80% e at contine ntal food.. 05:52 PM A ve ry good e x planation. 93 liked sony. The results are. 78% e at C hine se food.. 01:05 PM hi ashish.89 liked Zee. 10:19 AM Hi TG. BTW .993 (Becoz 7 ppl dont like any of the 6 types of food) = 4027 Accomodating the surplus in the portions of 5 intersecting groups.82% e at Am e rican food . I am not at all confide nt of the answe r arrive d at. Hope the TG use rs m ak e use of that as we ll. if 7 pe ople do not e at any of the 6 type s of food? A:0 B:13 c:27 D:55 ppl havi ng south i ndi an food = 920 ppl havi ng north i ndi an food = 910 ppl havi ng Ameri can food = 820 ppl havi ng Chi nese food = 780 ppl havi ng Itali an food = 790 ppl havi ng Conti nental food = 800 hence.. Total Genius.Basics.re sults show that 92% of the pe ople surve ye d e at south Indian food.. Problems... Maxima and Minima by Ank ush Ke shwani . Maxima and Minima by Mou Suk oshi ..Monday. Problems. So the re ne e d not be any pe ople watching all the five channe ls. 1 did not like any of the above. I will te ll you the approach that I followe d.. Remaining = 1000 -7 = 993 Surplus = 5020 .com/mod/forum/discuss.. Now he re I conside r the com binations of groups possible for e ach of the se groups: 2 channe l groups = 5. 78 like Mtv..7/5/13 MBA| CAT| CAT 2011| CAT 2012| CAT Online| MBA 2012| MBA Entrance Exams| CAT Test| Preparation| CAT Questions thanks TG. Ple ase corre ct m e whe re I am going wrong.

.. se e the above post . Maxima and Minima by Mou Suk oshi . Maxima and Minima by the te rm inator . think be fore u write . 11:49 PM hi som porna can u e x plain why did u accom adate d pe rsons in 5 inte rse cting group and why not in 1 2 3 4 one 's m e ans u r assum ing those to be Ze ro ??? Plz do e x plain.n ashish is the answe r to ur que stion 27 ?option c Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams.. Maxima and Minima by Ajay . For solutiuon. be 57% and NO T 54% ie the m ax im um value for the stude nts to tak e all the 3 fie lds as all the arts ppl can tak e the othe r two as we ll .. answer (D)55. 19 O ctobe r 2007..Friday.re garding the e x am ple give n by u about the colle ge stude nts.Thursday..Tue sday.. Maxima and Minima by Bharat Suri .. be fore this how m any use ful posts u hav put up??? nothing pe rsonal but be care ful wat u write .Basics..Basics..Basics. ..othe rwise u are absolute ly corre ct.Basics. 01:37 PM hi the article is awe som e !!!!! thank s .. O r e lse I have m isunde rstood the que stion.Basics. Its ask ing for those who re ad conse cutive issue s: July-August and AugustSe pte m be r July-August: 7 August-Se pte m be r: 2 So answe r is 9. 12:13 PM hi ajay totalgadha. Problems. Problems.. Problems. and can u u plz e x plain wat u m e an by ur so calle d "FUNDAS".7/5/13 MBA| CAT| CAT 2011| CAT 2012| CAT Online| MBA 2012| MBA Entrance Exams| CAT Test| Preparation| CAT Questions 55 Hence.RK. The answe r is atle ast 20 pe ople watch all 5 channe ls.Basics..Friday. 13 Nove m be r 2007.Basics. 16 Nove m be r 2007..Tue sday. Maxima and Minima by R ishi Kapoor .... Maxima and Minima by the unde rdog . Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. 12 Nove m be r 2007. 07:02 AM Hi Abhra. 09:38 PM sir shouldnt m ax im um value ... Problems. Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams..W e dne sday. Problems. Thnx. Problems... 8 Nove m be r 2007. I don't think the C AT 2006 que stion (July-Se pt-August) is wrong. Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams... Maxima and Minima by m anjari m alpani ..com/mod/forum/discuss.. Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams.php?d=1262 19/41 . Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams... Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams.Monday... 17 O ctobe r 2007. 13 Nove m be r 2007..... Problems.. 10:56 AM Hi TG... 05:57 PM @ dine sh m unna he y if u urse lf cant post som e thg use ful le t othe rs do it and by d way donno y u r so critical abt the article . Plz let me know if i am correct.

four people play Carrom also. we m ove to 2 inte rse cting grps only whe n we are unable to accom odate within non-inte rse cting portions. of people who play Chess only (iii) In every three people who play Chess and Chinese Checkers only.7/5/13 MBA| CAT| CAT 2011| CAT 2012| CAT Online| MBA 2012| MBA Entrance Exams| CAT Test| Preparation| CAT Questions look close ly thru TG's article .. of people who play all the three games is equal to the no...Basics. so we have alre ady conside re d sm alle r inte rse cting grps be fore m oving on to the highe r num be r of inte rse cting grps..Chess . (i) Thrice the no. brilliantly e x plaine d conce pts ... we m ove the surplus to gps whe re all inte rse ct only whe n we cannot accom odate the m within 5 inte rse cting grps... i sugge st u draw a diag as it will he lp u to unde rstand the accom odation of the surplus be tte r. 16 Nove m be r 2007. lik e in the prob.... there are five people who play none of the three games... Maxima and Minima by Divyasha R ay .thank s a ton sir. 12:15 PM hi ajay look close ly thru TG's article . 24 June 2008.. 4 June 2008.com/mod/forum/discuss.. 10:57 PM a big thank u to tg sir. Problems.be tte r than any coaching you can ge t. sim ilarly.. of people who Chinese Checkers .......... (ii) The no... How many people play Chess but not Carrom? 3. How many people play exactly two games? 2...Basics.. we m ove to 2 inte rse cting grps only whe n we are unable to accom odate within non-inte rse cting portions.... Problems..php?d=1262 20/41 ..... i sugge st u draw a diag as it will he lp u to unde rstand the accom odation of the surplus be tte r... 11:21 AM TG you rock m an. lik e in the prob.... (iv) In every seven people who play Chinese Checkers... Maxima and Minima by yash m odi . Problems...Basics.!!!! totalgadha...How many people play Chess or Carrom Divyasha Edit | De Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams... Problems. we m ove to 3 inte rse cting grps only whe n we are unable to accom odate within 2 inte rse cting grps.Thursday. so we have alre ady conside re d sm alle r inte rse cting grps be fore m oving on to the highe r num be r of inte rse cting grps..Tue sday.... we m ove to 3 inte rse cting grps only whe n we are unable to accom odate within 2 inte rse cting grps.. The Following information is obtained in the survey....Friday....Carrom and Chinese Checkers.thank s again.. Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams.Basics... Maxima and Minima by Mou Suk oshi . How many people do not play Chinese Checkers? 4... of people who play Chinese Checkers and Carrom is equal to the no. sim ilarly.. Maxima and Minima by abhinav tripathi . Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams.. (v) For every four people who play exactly two games. 26 June 2008...... 05:26 PM Hi TG sir Can u please help me with this particular question??? A survey was conducted in a community of 350 people regarding three games ..W e dne sday.. Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. we m ove the surplus to gps whe re all inte rse ct only whe n we cannot accom odate the m within 5 inte rse cting grps..there is one person who plays Carrom and Chinese Checkers only and two persons who play none of the three games Questions: 1......

and you k now what... Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams..] In this case . Maxima and Minima by Mou Suk oshi . Maxima and Minima by A S . Le t's tak e this e x am ple : "In a colle ge .sorry again!! Abhishe k Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. Y + Z will 'e at away' m ax im um Z. Le t X = Ele m e nts having only A or only B or only C Y = Ele m e nts having two e le m e nts e x actly.. Vice -ve rsa... This is the first tim e I am writing in this forum .. Problems.. le ts com e to the busine ss!!! I unde rstand the way you have pre se nte d the m ax im a and m inim a using Ve nn diagram .Basics.Monday.Basics. Problems.at le ast thats what I dre am today.. whe re e ve ry stude nt follows at le ast one of the thre e activitie s.... you are m ore than we lcom e . for m in Z. W e can ce rtainly do with som e m ore hands.Friday. 12:42 PM Hi Abhishe k . Hope this will he lp othe rs too.. Problems. X = 0% => Z = 8%. and ne e dle ss to say it was pathe tic . Y = 0% => Z = 54%. Thank you for the m e thod. Anyway. W e lcom e to the gadha gang. 4 July 2008.com/mod/forum/discuss.you fre e d m e . waiting for an article on graphs. That can e asily be done by adjusting X or Y... All the othe r se ctions can be e x pre sse d in te rm s of a single variable . I will try it out and che ck .Monday.dram a... Maxima and Minima by Total Gadha . And be fore e ve rything e lse i want to say that you are sim ply gre at!! I got to find your we bsite 2 m onths back . 3 July 2008.7/5/13 MBA| CAT| CAT 2011| CAT 2012| CAT Online| MBA 2012| MBA Entrance Exams| CAT Test| Preparation| CAT Questions ve nn diagram s we re always a m atte r of conce rn for m e . Total Gadha totalgadha.. And good luck to you or your C AT. Som parna Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. 09:48 AM hi tg. and 57% follow arts.65% follow dram a. 11:13 AM @ Divyasha The re shd be one m ore condition for the C arrom O nly portion. 7 July 2008. Z = Ele m e nts com m on with all thre e e le m e nts (inte rse ction of all thre e se ts) So.Thursday. part have incre ase d tre m e ndously.only que stion.. Y = 92% for m ax Z. (X + 2Y + 3Z) (X + Y + Z) = 100 % W e ge ne rally have to find m in or m ax of Z. If X = 0... X = 46% and Y = 0% It m ay se e m to ve ry le ngthy proce ss. I wrote C AT in 2006. Plz che ck the prob. X = 0%. 86% follow sports.thank u Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams.. Problems. This ye ar I am going to write it m ore confide ntly.!!! thank s a lot.. le aving sm all Z. Ple ase le t m e k now your valuable input on the sam e ... we 'll always be give n.. within this short tim e span m y confide nce and grip ove r quant..php?d=1262 21/41 . Now who will corre spond to m ax and who to m in . So it will be use d to calculate m in Z. re m e m be r). And one day I'll join you to he lp stude nts.. W hat can be the m ax im um and m inim um pe rce ntage of stude nts who follow · all thre e activitie s · e x actly two activitie s" (X + 2Y + 3Z) = 208% (X + Y + Z) = 100% [If Z has to be fix e d (be m in or m ax ) e ithe r X or Y has to be ze ro (the y can not be ne gative ... But I got the chance to com m unicate with you and could not re sist m yse lf.... I discove re d this whe n I was at C lass 12 and use d it confide ntly without any hiccup.Basics. 7 July 2008.m m uch re lie ve d. but practically ve ry sm all and e asy to unde rstand... sports.but I think it can be sim plifie d to furthe r e x te nt.Basics. or arts. As for he lping stude nts. Maxima and Minima by shubham singh . Sorry for posting such a long and boring m ail. 02:26 PM tg u just gre at!!! initially i was so scare d of ve nn diagram n m ax im a n m inim a but now afte r going thru ur article .

x + y = 100% m ax i.99*3 = 20.. i find it e asie r to calculate the m in this alge braic m e thod.php?d=1262 22/41 . Q . It is also said that at le ast one stude nt opte d for all the 3 subje cts. 12:34 AM Thank s TG for a gre at article . of course it will give the sam e answe r and will e ve ntually form sam e e quations. Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams.de duct y + z = 108% and that's what this article e x plains Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. is m ore than the no of stude nts opting for e x actly 2 of the 3 subje cts. 1. 13 July 2008. this is a que stion from one of the AIMC ATs. e ach stude nt has to opt for one or m ore of the 3 subje cts am ong Physics.Tue sday.. Maxima and Minima by Prashant Kum ar . 01:08 AM 416 will be the total. what is the m ax no of stude nts who opte d for all the thre e subje cts? a)15 b)16 c)17 d)18 e )19 4.ple ase guide .. I found it re ally tough to solve .Basics. 8 July 2008.Basics.Tue sday.Tue sday. Problems.e . 416 . y = 317 . 10:59 AM He y dibya.Basics.. Max no of stude nts who opte d for physics and che m but not m aths:? a)47 b)48 c)49 d)50 e )51 Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams..how? if we do that won't c be com e gre ate r than b? the q says c Show parent | Reply totalgadha. is m ore than the no of stude nts opting for all the 3 subje cts.Please help me Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. Maxima and Minima by R ajat Vashishta . Problems.Basics.just anothe r pe rspe ctive of look ing at this k ind of proble m . Maxima and Minima by R ajat Vashishta .com/mod/forum/discuss. If e x actly half the stude nts opte d for m aths. 99 so.Tue sday. Problems.So cant we take this problem in the same way as calculating the surplus (105+56+50-210=1).Sunday.But te ll m e one thing In the se ction " When the total number of elements is NOT fixed " . Max no of stude nts opting for che m :? a)72 b)79 c)80 d)81 e )None of the se 2. In a group of 100 stude nts. Problems. 01:20 AM yaar it's the sam e thing as writte n in this article . (ans) Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. 08:36 AM He llo TG.Sunday.Basics. Problems.I am not giving a brand ne w the ory. 8 July 2008. C he m and Maths. which in turn. Maxima and Minima by dibyaranjan m allick . (X + 2Y + 3Z) = 208% (X + Y + Z) = 100% ---------------------. Problems. 13 July 2008. 8 July 2008. 12:43 AM "49 can be allote d to the inte rse ction of H and C only as we have to m ax crick e t (C )".7/5/13 MBA| CAT| CAT 2011| CAT 2012| CAT Online| MBA 2012| MBA Entrance Exams| CAT Test| Preparation| CAT Questions Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. it was re ally use ful.We have 210 interviews in IIM A.But the solution comes out to be spurious using this.Basics. which in turn. Min no of stude nts opting for m aths:? a)38 b)37 c)36 d)35 e )34 3.99 = 317 be the surplus 3x + 4y = 317.. 8 July 2008. Maxima and Minima by A S . It re ally ve ry tailor m ade inform aion for C AT. Maxima and Minima by dibyaranjan m allick .what i m e an to say that in ste ad of the proce ss 'inje cting' one e le m e nt in com m on are a. Max no of stude nts who opte d for only physics:? a)33 b)50 c)49 d)48 e )52 5.. The num be r of stude nts opting for m aths is m ore than that of physics which in turn is m ore than that of che m .

So.Again ze ro for 'only arts'. 22 July 2008. Problems.Thursday.. 03:11 AM Hello TG Sir I dint get the concept of x+y and x+2y clearly.. 17 July 2008.Basics. Maxima and Minima by ashish jain .Tue sday.. It se e m s this satisfie s all the conditions(Am I m issing som e thing?). Problems. Problems. 03:29 AM Hi Understood the logic u gave to Kishore. Maxima and Minima by R iyaz Iqbal .com/mod/forum/discuss. Regards Inder Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams.. Problems.. the n the re m ay be som e pe rsons who doe sn't be long to any cate gory and he nce AUBUC is not fix e d ? C an you e x plain this classification in de tail ple ase ? Thank s and R e gards. 16 July 2008. I'm im pre sse d ! Again !! Thank s for your quality conce ptual le sssons. I've a que stion about the Dram a..Basics. 09:30 AM Hi TG. Problems. Maxima and Minima by inde rpre e t m ak k ar .. 01:49 AM thank you TG sir.7/5/13 MBA| CAT| CAT 2011| CAT 2012| CAT Online| MBA 2012| MBA Entrance Exams| CAT Test| Preparation| CAT Questions Re: Venn Diagrams. shouldn't the m ax value be 57 inste ad of 54? Ple ase clarify. Problems. Mohan Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams.. Rgds Inder Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams.Thursday.Basics. how could u say that the maximum could be 92 abd minm beibg 8. 03:09 AM He llo TG sir.Arts. 05:46 PM totalgadha.. 8 for 'only dram a' and 29 for 'only sports'..Basics.... Since the le ast pe rce ntage give n is 57% why can't we just include 57 to the inte rse ction of all thre e are as and adjust the re m aining value s? Le ave the are as of inte rse ction of e x actly two se ts e m pty(which give s the m inim a of ze ro for that are a. 17 July 2008.php?d=1262 23/41 . C ould you ple ase guide m e to solve this proble m of C hine se che ck e rs..Tue sday.Basics. Maxima and Minima by Am e y Pank e .Thursday.Sports que stion. In your answe r above ..its beyond my comprehension presently. 16 July 2008. Maxima and Minima by m ohan chandra .dint get the last part though. 12:07 AM Hi. the conce pts are of gre at he lp... R e gards. Ashish Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. Maxima and Minima by R iyaz Iqbal .thnx for the same. Problems.. Following the sam e que stion which Nitin Jain has ask e d above .. Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams.. 22 July 2008.Basics. did you m e an that if it is not give n that e ve ry pe rson be longs to at le ast one cate gory .as you've alre ady prove d) and put 57 in the inte rse ction of all thre e are as.can u pls help me wit hthe same..W e dne sday.. Maxima and Minima by inde rpre e t m ak k ar .Basics.. u rock sir!!!!!!! Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams.would appreciate if u can help me wid that. I still have doubt re garding the classification of proble m s into Fix e d and NonFix e d cate gory.W e dne sday.. 17 July 2008.

Total Gadha Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. Maxima and Minima by Total Gadha . Ke e p up the good work . Nice stuff.. Problems.Tue sday. An I have to adm it that the quality of stuff on this site is sim ply gre at. W ould be re ally gre 8 if we could ge t som e m ore practice que stions or sam ple s. 04:47 PM He y TG.7/5/13 MBA| CAT| CAT 2011| CAT 2012| CAT Online| MBA 2012| MBA Entrance Exams| CAT Test| Preparation| CAT Questions Sorry.php?d=1262 24/41 . I work on Linux and cant he lp noticing the sim ilarity be twe e n the unde rlying the m e of Linux and your e nde avor. 23 July 2008.Friday. 19 Se pte m be r 2008. Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. and 57% follow arts. Thank you.. Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. at le ast 70% of pe ople lik e apple s. In today's world whe re e ve rything is com m e rcialize d. 07:58 PM Hi Am it. sports. Maxima and Minima by srini vaas . Ne ve rthe le ss.Basics. 17 Se pte m be r 2008.According to a surve y. the way u r spre ading k nowle dge is sim ply unhe ard of.Basics. 5 August 2008. Problems. Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. or arts65% follow dram a.W e dne sday. 09:03 AM Hi TG.In a colle ge . God Ble ss. Problems. I ll e x plain throughthe sam e e x am ple s illustrate d above . W hat can be the m ax im um and m inim um pe rce ntage of stude nts who follow · all thre e activitie s · e x actly two activitie s Ans:m in For all thre e activitie s= 100-((100-65)+(100-86)+(100-57)) =>100-(35+14+43)=100-92=8% m ax For e x actly two=100-8=92%(since x +2y=100 and m in of all thre e can be use d) R e gards Adi Show parent | Reply 4 Set or Greater Venn diagrams by de vi prak ash . You are on som e thing gre at TG.. a gre at post Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. 12 Se pte m be r 2008.Saturday..W e dne sday..Basics.com/mod/forum/discuss. 86% follow sports.Basics. Maxima and Minima by Saurabh Mishra . Problems. 11:54 AM Ve nn diagram s involving m ax im a and m inim a have always be e n m y ne m e sis.Basics. W hat is the m inim um pe rce ntage of pe ople who lik e all thre e ? Ans: for m in of all thre e = 100-((100-70)+(100-75)+(100-80)) =>100-(30+25+20)=100-75=25 2. 1. ple ase post your 4 se t or 6 se t ve nn diagram s proble m . This post re ally he lpe d a lot. TG.. 20 Se pte m be r 2008. 20 Se pte m be r 2008.ve ry m uch im pre sse d with the quality and sim plicity. I would lik e add one m ore te chnique about m inim a whe n total num be r is fix e d or whe n total num be r can be found out.I found the fallacy in m y argum e nt.Saturday. 08:34 PM I am a avid re ade r of TG site .Friday. totalgadha. Maxima and Minima by am it am it . Problems. at le ast 75% lik e bananas and at le ast 80% lik e che rrie s.dram a. Knowle dge is fre e and should be share d. Maxima and Minima by Adithya G . 05:34 PM hi de vi da. 03:30 AM Hi TG plz give som e e asie r ways to solve 4 se t or 6 se t ve nn diagram s Show parent | Reply Re: 4 Set or Greater Venn diagrams by Jungle e Gadha . The total pe rce ntage doe sn't add up to 100 in the case propose d by m e . whe re e ve ry stude nt follows at le ast one of the thre e activitie s.

Basics.. Maxima and Minima by k aran sobti . MBA| CAT| CAT 2011| CAT 2012| CAT Online| MBA 2012| MBA Entrance Exams| CAT Test| Preparation| CAT Questions wats ur re al nam e ??? Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams.Basics.and se e m s lik e a re al ge m ... 04:34 AM hi TG. 24 Se pte m be r 2008. you can quick ly obtain that if you k e e p 90% in inte rse ction of 3 se ts and 10% in the inte rse ction of 4 se ts.Se e m s it work s e ve rytim e . U rock . 06:58 PM Hi TG..C . 90% re ad pape r A ..Basics. shouldn this be Going by this m anne r.Basics. B . Going by this m anne r.but i ne e d m ore proble m s & e x am ple s lik e the se . How should I go about it????? Kindly he lp R e gards Shre shth Anand Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. Maxima and Minima by SHR ESHTH ANAND . A sm all clarification. at le ast 70% of pe ople lik e apple s. Inde e d it's a ve ry nice article but I have som e proble m s in handling Max im a and Minim a proble m s.Tue sday. Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. thanx Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams... Problems. Maxima and Minima by k aran sobti .. ..Basics. W hat is the m inim um pe rce ntage of pe ople who lik e all thre e ? To ge t the answe r. Problems. Say. thanx Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams.. Problems. 22 Se pte m be r 2008.W e dne sday. Problems. I use a ‘one -line r’ funda. the surplus accom m odate d = 90 × 2 + 10 × 3 = 210%. 80% pape r C .Monday.65% pape r D and 40% pape r E. Maxima and Minima by Sre e de vi PV . Minim um Pe rce ntage of pe ople who lik e all thre e = 80 – (100-75)-(100-70) =25 totalgadha. at le ast 75% lik e bananas and at le ast 80% lik e che rrie s. Say.. Maxima and Minima by sathyan sadagopan . 23 Se pte m be r 2008. you can quick ly obtain that if you k e e p 90% in inte rse ction of 2 se ts and 10% in the inte rse ction of 3 se ts. Hope its use ful. Again Kudoooos. Q ue stion:According to a surve y. 23 Se pte m be r 2008.. Now if I have to find at m ost how m any re ad e x actly four out of five pape rs and e x actly 3 out of five . If i have to find out the following things : In a town pe ople re ad five k inds of ne wspape rs say A. Max &m in funda was a bit confusing whe n i first re ad it. And at le ast how m any re ad e x actly four out of five pape rs and e x actly 3 out of five ....but i ne e d m ore proble m s & e x am ple s lik e the se .. 10:57 PM a ve ry good article inde e d...7/5/13 Am azin article . Jus one doubt. 02:13 AM Hi TG. 24 Se pte m be r 2008. Now its cle ar..php?d=1262 25/41 .com/mod/forum/discuss.. the surplus accom m odate d = 90 × 2 + 10 × 3 = 210%.W e dne sday. in d above e x planation.Tue sday. 10:56 PM a ve ry good article inde e d. 74% pape r B .Dand E. Problems.

Maxima and Minima by LALIT MALIK . Maxima and Minima by Aastha C halana .by that logic intersection of n sets can accomodate n-1 % surplus.. This le sson was of gre at he lp. though sm all but im portant fundas..com/mod/forum/discuss. Maxima and Minima by Ne e le sh Se thi ... plz explain..Basics.intersection of only two sets can accommodate only a surplus of 100%. Maxima and Minima by Koshe r InBlue s .. 03:20 PM Hi..Basics...Thursday. Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams..nd g is 0shouldn't d=35 e =33 &f=32 ...Basics. why we have tak e 8% out from the inte rse ction of 2 se ts and the n add 8% to inte rse ction of thre e se ts. 11:08 AM he y . 8 O ctobe r 2008. Problems.. 10:54 AM Hi Shre shth..Basics..So by that logic is it tht intersection of 3 sets can accomodate 200%. 10 Nove m be r 2008.and also if any 1 knows line technique for such problems.Thursday.Basics. 25 Se pte m be r 2008. Maxima and Minima by R ohit Pathak . Kindly do re ply Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams.W e dne sday.Basics.d>e >f. Thank s R ohit Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. For at m ost how m any re ad e x actly 4 out of 5 pape rs the answe r that i am ge tting is 83% and for at le ast how m any re ad e x actly 4 out of 5 i am ge tting 49% ple ase le t m e k now if the se are corre ct.. Problems..Monday.is it because intersection of 2 eta gives surplus of 1 element. In all i throughly e njoye d work ing on it! Thank s. Problems. 12:58 AM thnx sir for great topic. totalgadha.... 27 O ctobe r 2008.Thursday.php?d=1262 26/41 . Thank s Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. 05:36 AM Hi C an you te ll why be fore adding the surplus to the inte rse ction of the thre e se ts we are subracting the sam e am ount from the inte rse ction of only two se ts lik e if the surplus is 108% the n can't we re pre se nt the surplus in this m anne r . 09:58 PM HI TG I am a ne w fan of yours ...if m not wrong. and i re ally lik e the way you pre se nt a topic "to the point ".7/5/13 C he e rs!! MBA| CAT| CAT 2011| CAT 2012| CAT Online| MBA 2012| MBA Entrance Exams| CAT Test| Preparation| CAT Questions Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams.can u che ck six th line from top of ur re ply . Problems. 25 Se pte m be r 2008. Maxima and Minima by shantanu rangaswam i .Monday.wass up.. Problems. Problems. 25 Se pte m be r 2008.100% is from inte rse ction of two se ts only and 4% (which m e ans surplus of 8%) from the inte rse ction of thre e se ts.

Friday. In diagram 2. Maxima and Minima by Ashish Sharm a . HI SRI KLR C AN U PLEASE EXPLAIN ME THIS AGAIN I DIDNT GET WHY 54% AND HOW ADDING IN ONE ADD IN ALL . Problems. This surplus of 8% can be accommodated by adding elements to intersection of three sets. we have added 1 element to intersection of all the three sets (A and B and C ).com/mod/forum/discuss. Can yu please check whether it's right . Therefore. What can be the maximum and minimum percentage of students who follow · all three activities · exactly two activities Answer: Let us again see the surplus: Percentage of students who follow drama + Percentage of students who follow sports + Percentage of students who follow arts = 65% + 86% + 57% = 208% à ž surplus = 108%.drama. or arts. we can accommodate the surplus by · adding elements to intersection of only two sets in which case a surplus of 1 element can be accommodated by increase of 1 element in the intersection of only two sets. We can also solve it mathematically à ž x + 2y = 108%. where every student follows at least one of the three activities. THanks .Basics. Maxima and Minima by Suk anya C howdhury . Therefore. For that we have to take 8% out of the intersection of only two sets and add it to intersection of three sets. adding 54% to intersection of three sets will give a surplus of 108%. At least 49% and at most 83% for those who read exactly four out of 5 papers .Basics.Saturday. Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. 86% follow sports. and 57% follow arts. 11:46 AM hi TG SIR C AN U ELABO R ATE BELO W GIVEN AGAIN In diagram 1. As adding 1 element to intersection of three sets give a surplus of 2 sets.7/5/13 MBA| CAT| CAT 2011| CAT 2012| CAT Online| MBA 2012| MBA Entrance Exams| CAT Test| Preparation| CAT Questions Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. This surplus can be accommodated through adding elements either to intersection of only two sets or to intersection of only three sets. In this case the percentage of students who follow exactly two activities will be minimum = 0%. Problems. Therefore. In this case the percentage of students who follow exactly two activities will be maximum = 92%. the maximum value of students who follow all three activities is 54%. whereas minimum value of x will give maximum value of y.Basics. sports. Problems.65% follow drama. 12:32 AM Hi Shreshth. the minimum percentage of people who like all three = 8%. The surplus of 108% can also be accommodated through adding elements to only intersection of three sets. 21 Fe bruary 2009. · adding elements to intersection of three sets in which case a surplus of 2 elements can be accommodated by increase of 1 element in the intersection of three sets. The maximum value of x will give minimum value of y. we have added 1 element to intersection of only two sets (A and B but not C ). @TG .php?d=1262 27/41 . 19 De ce m be r 2008.n solve the other part of the qsn. 11:35 AM In a college. Sukanya.Saturday. We can see that A and B both increase by 1 and therefore we get a surplus of 1 element. Maxima and Minima by vik as sharm a . We can see that A. 25 April 2009.Saturday. the surplus of 8% will still be left. where x + y £ 100%.Basics. B and C all three increase by 1 element each and therefore we get a surplus of 2 elements. As the intersection of only two sets can accommodate only a surplus of 100%.WAITING FOR REPLY Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. 09:26 AM supe rcool totalgadha. 21 Fe bruary 2009. in case of three sets.. Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. Maxima and Minima by vik as sharm a . I'v also got the same answer. Problems.

at least 70% of people like apples. Maxima and Minima by W illiam W allace . 31 May 2009.Is ans 3??? Re: Venn Diagrams. 86% follow sports.. Ple ase re ad the state m e nts be low care fully as m e ntione d by TG sir while e x plaining the sam e proble m .Basics. This surplus of 25% can be accom m odate d by adding e le m e nts to inte rse ction of thre e se ts.W e dne sday. draw diagram .5% de ar. What can be the maximum and minimum percentage of students who follow · all three activities · exactly two activities" The surplus of 108% can also be accommodated through adding elements to only intersection of three sets. Problems.Friday. The num be r of pe ople le arning just one is 20.php?d=1262 28/41 . Show parent | Reply . Maxima and Minima by vik as yadav . I hope you got m y e x plaination we ll. and 57% follow arts. sports.actually v are tak ing out the e le m e nts from the inte rse ctions of two se ts and putting the m in all the 3 se ts inte rse ction space .65% follow drama. For that we have to tak e 25% out of the inte rse ction of only two se ts and add it to inte rse ction of thre e se ts.Basics. Maxima and Minima by W illiam W allace .W e dne sday. 3 June 2009.7/5/13 MBA| CAT| CAT 2011| CAT 2012| CAT Online| MBA 2012| MBA Entrance Exams| CAT Test| Preparation| CAT Questions Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. or arts. 06:05 PM Hi Vak ati.He nce . Therefore. Thank s Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. form ulate e quations and done a+d+f=7 b+d+e =8 f+e +c=11 a+b+c=20 to find d+f+c=(26-20)/2=3. in 1st proble m " According to a survey. Sorry could't draw the diagram . Problems. the m inim um pe rce ntage of pe ople who lik e all thre e = 25%. 3 July 2009. So. Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. Problems. The re fore . Maxima and Minima by vak ati babu . 11:19 PM The re are 10 pe ople le arning A. As adding 1 element to intersection of three sets give a surplus of 2 sets. adding 54% to intersection of three sets will give a surplus of 108%..it would be 25% and not 12. 19 June 2009.Basics. Kudos to u as it's re ally a wonde rful article but i have som e doubts re late d to that.Basics. Problems. Maxima and Minima by W illiam W allace .Sunday. The num be r of pe ople le arning all thre e is 3. How m any pe ople only le arn two of thre e ? how to answe r this / Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. at least 75% like bananas and at least 80% like cherries.com/mod/forum/discuss.drama.5 % rather 25% as is the case in the second question?? I hope u get my doubt Please answer this and clear this doubt. 03:18 PM @Targe tIIM Hi dude . 05:52 PM Hi TG. Problems. where every student follows at least one of the three activities. the maximum value of students who follow all three activities is 54% My question is that shouldn't the answer in the 1st problem be 12.Basics. 02:28 PM Thank s Vik as Show parent | Reply totalgadha. 11 pe ople le arning B and 14 pe ople le arning C .This would m e an cove ring a surplus of 1 pe r e le m e nt tak e n out from the se ts of twin inte rse ction. 3 June 2009.Friday. What is the minimum percentage of people who like all three?" u said surplus is 125 % and hence the minimum% of people who like all three is 25% But in second problem "In a college.

Que: In a class of 120 students. that's why max no. Problems. 34 study M+H. of students study more than 3 subjects is 93-79=14 Please let me know is this correct way of sloving this que. Maxima and Minima by vive k ghiria . Maxima and Minima by ashu jain . Problems.which in turn is m ore than that of 3. in a job fair am ong 100 participants who atte nde d the inte rvie w.40 e . 01:04 PM The proble m that I am facing is that the le sson is give n on solving the que stion base d on pe rce ntage but m ost of the tim e the que stion doe s not contain pe rce ntage but re al num be rs whe re conve rting into pe rce ntage can be cum be rsom e .Basics. the n it will he lp us a lot. Maxima and Minima by Pragya dasgupta . 17 Se pte m be r 2009. Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. is m ore than that of 2. 03:05 PM Hi ashu. Lik e this que stion give n be low: Q )In a surve y re port. C ? a. 67 study E and 73 study M. I have one conce rn. B is m ore than that of C . 75 use the sam e products of brand B and 175 use the sam e products of brand C .120 surplus = 59+67+73-120=79 Total number of students study more than one sub = 34+33+26=93 b'coz surplus is 79 but being accomodated is 93. E and M. As of now.56 b. 13 August 2009. 75 use the sam e products of brand B and 175 use the sam e products of brand C . it was found that 100 m e n use a products of brand A.Basics. Then find the max and min number of students who study all the three subjects? If I solve the question by drawing the venn diagram the max value I am getting as 26. of participants who atte nde d the inte rvie w of co. Problems. Maxima and Minima by R O HIT K .Basics. A? a. 07:30 PM HEllo C an Anyone he lp m e ith this proble m Is the re any Fix e d proce ss to solve this ype of proble m s.W hat is the m ax possible no of participants who atte nde d the inte rvie w of co. which was conducte d in a club of 300 m e n.Thursday. 26 July 2009.Thursday. Q )In a surve y re port. 59 study H.the num be r of participants who atte nde d for com pany A is m ore than that of co. 26 study E+M and 33 study H+E.48 Q .Sunday. total students .Am ong the se 100 participants at le ast one pe rson atte nde d the inte rvie w of all the 3 com panie s. W hat now??? I am not ge tting the hang of this thing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams.php?d=1262 29/41 . 17 Se pte m be r 2009. each student studies at least one of the subjects from H. it was found that 100 m e n use a products of brand A.67 e . Afte r going through a particular le sson.38 c. Thank s a lot for the le ssons Vive k Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams.Thursday. I have to se arch the proble m s re late d to that chapte r in Q uant-DI forum which tak e bit e x tra tim e . While if I solve this question in this way then I m getting rt ans. Problems. 06:25 PM Hi TG I am going through le ssons in this forum one by one .The no of participants who atte nde d inte rvie w of e x actly one co.Basics. Maxima and Minima by Nitin Kum ar .45 c.7/5/13 MBA| CAT| CAT 2011| CAT 2012| CAT Online| MBA 2012| MBA Entrance Exams| CAT Test| Preparation| CAT Questions Re: Venn Diagrams.Sunday. If fe w proble m s pe rtaining to that chapte r will be available . 11:08 PM Hi TG.com/mod/forum/discuss.Basics. Q :W hat is the m inim un possible no.36 b.64 Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams.65 d. W hat is the m ax im um possible num be r of m e n using all the thre e brands? totalgadha. Problems.37 d. 12 July 2009. which was conducte d in a club of 300 m e n. W hat is the m ax im um possible num be r of m e n using all the thre e brands? He re x +2y = 50.

Basics.Thursday. 17 Se pte m be r 2009. C an anyone ple ase e x plain m e how to approach this k ind of que stions? In a class of 30 stude nts.. 11:33 PM Hi Ashu. Maxima and Minima by ashu jain . Problems. Ple ase che ck if I am going wrong anywhe re .Basics. W hat is the m ax im um possible num be r of m e n using all the thre e brands? Ans: Total Me n=300 A=100. which was conducte d in a club of 300 m e n.Basics. Maxima and Minima by ashu jain . Maxima and Minima by R O HIT K ..Thursday.. 08:06 PM The O A is 25. 17 Se pte m be r 2009. B=75. Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. 08:11 PM I think answe r should be option e ) 15.? For e ach m e n allocate d to A^B^C . we ge t surplus of 2.. the re are 2 cate gorie s of stude nts: Liars: who always lie .. Maxima and Minima by Pallav Jain . Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. it was found that 100 m e n use a products of brand A.Basics. Truth Te lle rs: who always spe ak the truth. 19 Se pte m be r 2009. Problems.? Ple ase che ck and re ve rt back . The re fore for surplus of 50 we allocate 50/2=25 m e n to A^B^C .. 17 Se pte m be r 2009. 02:06 PM totalgadha. Maxima and Minima by ashu jain . Q )In a surve y re port.com/mod/forum/discuss. The se stude nts m ak e thre e diffe re nt state m e nts as follows : State m e nt I :Se ve n of the m say “ The re are e x actly 7 Liars in this class” State m e nt II :Eight of the m say “ The re are e x actly 8 Liars in this class” State m e nt III :The re st of the m say “ The re are e x actly 15 Liars in this class”. 05:08 PM Hi All. Anyways com ing back to your que stion. How m any Liars are the re in the class ? O ptions :a) 7 Thank s Pallav Show parent | Reply b) 8 c) 23 d) 22 e ) 15 Re: Venn Diagrams. 75 use the sam e products of brand B and 175 use the sam e products of brand C . Problems. Hope this he lps.Basics. C =175 A+B+C =350 Surplus=350-300=50 Now how do we allocate this surplus 50 to m ax im ize A^B^C . Sorry m ate i m ade a big goof up .. He nce 25 is the Answe r. 17 Se pte m be r 2009. Problems.Thursday.php?d=1262 30/41 .Thursday. R ohit Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams.Saturday. Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. Problems.7/5/13 MBA| CAT| CAT 2011| CAT 2012| CAT Online| MBA 2012| MBA Entrance Exams| CAT Test| Preparation| CAT Questions is the answe r 200.

W e dne sday. 09:47 PM Rajat.Tue sday. Problems. atle ast it got cle are d. 02:35 AM Hi Jayant. Total students enrolling for the classes = 200/2 = 100 Swimming+skating+dancing = 80 + 75 + 60 = 215 totalgadha.Basics.7/5/13 MBA| CAT| CAT 2011| CAT 2012| CAT Online| MBA 2012| MBA Entrance Exams| CAT Test| Preparation| CAT Questions thank s R ohit.. 02:30 PM TG sir. you are right bro. sk ating and dancing. Maxima and Minima by Jayant C houdhary .Basics. Num be r of stude nts who e nrolle d for sk ating and swim m ing only was 10 m ore than the num be r of stude nts who e nrolle d for sk ating and dancing only. He re is a proble m on Ve nn diagram s which is solvable using e quations but whe n i apply ur conce pt i ge t stuck . 20 O ctobe r 2009. its re ally he lpe d m e m uch sir Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams.Basics.Sunday. 21 O ctobe r 2009. Problems. 20 O ctobe r 2009. 01:47 AM e x tre m e ly sorry for the silly doubt. Ple ase he lp m e out!!! Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. while the inte rse ction of 2 would consum e 100%. Maxima and Minima by Total Gadha .Friday. 23 O ctobe r 2009.. Maxima and Minima by R ajat Vashishta .Basics. Problems. Maxima and Minima by Sure sh S . 11:02 AM In the proble m "According to a surve y. Q 1 Find the m ax im um possible num be r of stude nts who e nrolle d for e x actly 2 activitie s? Q 2 Find the m inim um possible num be r of stude nts who e nrolle d for at le ast one of the thre e activitie s.Basics.Tue sday. Maxima and Minima by Saravanar B . Problems. Maxima and Minima by R ajat Vashishta . 30 O ctobe r 2009.. 100% se jyada quantity kahan se laoge? Agar number 100 hi honge to 100 se jaayada kaise allocate karoge? Total Gadha Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. 12:04 PM Hi sir . Problems.. Sir. at le ast 70% of pe ople lik e apple s. 21 Se pte m be r 2009. Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. at le ast 75% lik e bananas and at le ast 80% lik e che rrie s. 03:05 PM and vik as's e x plaination is not sufficie nt.Friday. Problems. can u ple ase provide the e x plaination using ur m e thod of surpluse s!!!! Half of a class of 200 stude nts e nrolle d for e x actly one of the thre e activitie s swim m ing.. 75 in sk ating and 60 in dancing from the class.Basics. the inte rse ction of 3 se ts would consum e a surplus of 25%.php?d=1262 31/41 .a sm all se t m aybe ? se e m s e ve rytim e i think i've got this conce pt right. Maxima and Minima by R ajat Vashishta . Ple ase te ll m e whe re i am wrong? Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams.Monday. can we have som e que stions on m ax im a n m inim a. 1 Nove m be r 2009. Problems..com/mod/forum/discuss.5%?? In that case too. So the whole surplus of 125% would be accom m odate d. a ne w que stion pops up and baffle s m e ! Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams.Basics. Total e nrollm e nts we re 80 in swim m ing. W hat is the m inim um pe rce ntage of pe ople who lik e all thre e ? " why do we have to include 25% in the inte rse ction of 3 se ts? C ant this no be 12. why we are tak ing 25% from the twin se t inte rse ction is be cause putting 25% in 3 se t inte rse ction would give us a surplus of 150% so we ne e d to le sse n it from the 2 se t inte rse ction! Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams.

.php?d=1262 32/41 ... Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. Assum e m . 100 15 = 85 ) and placed it in exactly three region.e.. He nce what you are doing is wrong -.. z to be the inte rse ction of a and b. 2 Nove m be r 2009.. ( from e qn 1) so x + y + z + l <= 57 ----. Problems. y.Sunday.100 = 115 This 115 has to be accomodated in the "exactly two" and "exactly three" region.Basics. The total num be r of pe ople atte nding exactly one of the classe s is 100... He nce we conside r z = 1.. As far as ques 1 is concerned the max for exactly 2 activities : it can accomodate 100 students ( as the total students we've is only 100 ) remaining 15 (i. Maxima and Minima by m ayuri joshi .since you are assum ing a surplus ove r the value of 100 but the total value is NO T 100 in the first place ... so l = 31. 01:31 AM First one 's answe r is 56 2nd que stion's answe r is 142 Give n is "who e nrolle d for sk ating and swim m ing only was 10 m ore than the num be r of stude nts who e nrolle d for sk ating and dancing only totalgadha. this 15 is taken from exactly two region ( i.. n. also m + n + p + x + y + z + l = total num be r of stude nts. c and a. I think you have m isunde rstood the proble m . Le t l be the inte rse ction of all thre e . p to be the num be r of pe ople atte nding e x actly one of the 3 classe s... 1 Nove m be r 2009. 115-100 ) has to be accomodated in the exactly three region.. Also Saravanar...Basics. 12:36 PM For the ne x t proble m . W e can conside r z as 0 for m inim um value but the e qn doe snt have + inte ge r value s upon solving.7/5/13 MBA| CAT| CAT 2011| CAT 2012| CAT Online| MBA 2012| MBA Entrance Exams| CAT Test| Preparation| CAT Questions Surplus = 215 .com/mod/forum/discuss.) solving 1 & 2 we ge t l = 1.. The total num be r of pe ople atte nding the classe s is NO T 100. For obtaining m inim um value s. using both above e qns 2 (x + y + z) + 3l = 115 subs in this e qn y = x + 10 as pe r give n data.. 12:38 PM Hi Jayant this is re late d to your proble m . 2(x + y + z) + 3l = 115 -----e qn 1. pls let me know whether u hav understood or not ??? Cheers. This is how I think u do this Assum e a. so the ans is 85.. (and re quire d value of x + y + z is m ax whe n value of e qn 57.. so total number of students (min) = 100 + 0 + 1 + 10 + 31 = 142... b..Monday.. the n we have 2 e quations m + n + p + 2(x + y + z) + 3l = 80 + 75 + 60 = 215 but m + n + p = 100 so.. if we conside r x as 0 the n y = 10. c to be the thre e se ts.e. 100 + x + y + z + l cannot be m ore that 157.. 1 Nove m be r 2009. Problems. Assum e x .. Problems...e qn 2..Sunday. Maxima and Minima by m ayuri joshi ... Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. b and c.Basics. x + y + z = 56 hence the maximum value of students attending exactly two classes is 56. Maxima and Minima by am it am it . now 100 + x + y + z + a = total num be r of stude nts.

100+11+31= 142 he re f=e +10. re m aining surplus = 95. thus. 07:08 AM @saravanar. e x plaination=> ne w total=101 surplus =215 => 215-101=114. e =0.Monday. Suppose the re r only 100 stude nts now in ve n diagram and 100 r outside it.. surplus re duce d by 2. 12 Nove m be r 2009. W he n one stude nt is tak e n from outside ve nn diagram into are a com m on to all 3. 2 Nove m be r 2009. Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. of stude nts e nrolle d in e x actly 2 activitie s(e ach consum e s 2 surpluse s) y= no of stude nts e nrolle d in e x actly 3 activitie s. Maxima and Minima by ak ash gupta . m ak e y m ax im um but m inim um value of x is 10 whe n e =0 which consum e s 20 surpluse s. 2x +3y=115 solving the e quation. would ne e d ur he lp in solving following proble m according to above conce pt. liar. 80 re ad busine ss m agazine s and 70 re ad political m agazine s.Basics. m ayuri and am it thank s for the lucid e x plaination!!! Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. as we hv counte d 10 stude nts be fore 2(a)+3y=95 2a+3y=95 m ax im um value of y=31 ==>a=1 in above e quation. le t x = no.(e ach consum e s 3 surpluse s) ==> total surplus is 115.Monday. of stude nts com m on in all 3 se ts. proble m of truth te lle r. W he n from 100(stude nts) outside Ve nn diagram we tak e one in the are a com m on to two only. W hat is the m ax im um possible num be r of pe ople who re ad sports m agazine s only? 90 a) 60 b) 70 c)80 d) Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. Problems. 10:41 PM Hi TG and fam ily. Maxima and Minima by am it am it . of stude nts e nrolle d for swim m ing and dancing only now. 10 Nove m be r 2009. m ax value of x is 56.com/mod/forum/discuss.a=x -10. 90 re ad sports m agazine s. 14 Nove m be r 2009. ==> x =e + (e +10)+d. d=1 ==> x =11. 01:04 AM C an anyone he lp m e with binary logic proble m . Problems. of the 150 pe ople who we re surve ye d. alte rnator with an e x am ple ??? Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. 11:48 AM totalgadha.Thursday.7/5/13 let MBA| CAT| CAT 2011| CAT 2012| CAT Online| MBA 2012| MBA Entrance Exams| CAT Test| Preparation| CAT Questions the num be r of stude nts who e nrolle d for sk ating and dancing Xonly= e =>no of stude nts e nrolle d for sk ating and swim m ing Xonly=e +10=f Surplus is 115.Basics.. f=10. Problems. Problems. whe n le t d be the no. In a surve y conducte d. surplus is re duce d by 3. he nce . y=31 and initial 100 stude nts. Maxima and Minima by rohit dwive di ..Tue sday. For m inim um possible num be r of stude nts who e nrolle d for at le ast one of the thre e activitie s .Basics. so.php?d=1262 33/41 .Basics. Problems.. Each of the surve ye d pe rsons re ads at le ast one of the se thre e m agazine s. it consum e s one m ore surplus. plus one stude nt is in the are a com m on to two. Le t e =0 => f=10 .Basics. Maxima and Minima by am it am it . Maxima and Minima by Jayant C houdhary .m ayuri is right we cant tak e total value of stude nts as 100. it was found that. 01:38 PM ans is 70. condition satisfie d Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. le t g be the no. 2 Nove m be r 2009. our job is to accom m odate surplus of 115 using at m ost re m aining 100 stude nts.Saturday.

Thursday. 18 Nove m be r 2009.php?d=1262 34/41 . 12:53 PM he y ashwin can u plz e x plain it in de tail. can you please explain it ? A REAL test contains 3 sections: QA. 10:56 AM 15pe rce nt Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. Maxima and Minima by sam m y badyal . Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams.W e dne sday. Maxima and Minima by Pallav Jain . Problems. Maxima and Minima by Pallav Jain . then find the possible percentage of students who attempted only two sections.7/5/13 MBA| CAT| CAT 2011| CAT 2012| CAT Online| MBA 2012| MBA Entrance Exams| CAT Test| Preparation| CAT Questions ans is 70 total surplus= 90 50 in busine ss and politics only will contribute 50 surplus. it showed that 74% of students attempted QA. Problems. 20 com m on all the thre e m agazine s will contribute 40 surplus Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. Maxima and Minima by am ar goswam i . Surlus = 80% + 75% + 60% -100% = 115% to find out m inim um value for all thre e channe ls we ne e d to accom m odate m ax im um value of surplus in two channe ls. A student taking the test has to attempt at least one section. 06:49 PM answe r is 70 k e e p 20 in inte rse ction of thre e and 50 in inte rse ction of busine ss and political se ts. 03:55 AM Hey Amar. 18 Nove m be r 2009. Problems. Maxima and Minima by Pallav Jain . 58 % 21 % 0 37 % Can not be Determined Cheers !!! Pallav Show parent | Reply totalgadha.Basics. 15 Nove m be r 2009.com/mod/forum/discuss. 60% watche s BBC and 75% watche s Star Plus. VA and DI. 18 Nove m be r 2009.W e dne sday. 19 Nove m be r 2009.W e dne sday. Maxima and Minima by Ashwin A . If the percentage of students who attempted all the three sections is found to be 71%.Thursday. Problems. 91% attempted VA and 77% attempted DI section. Problems.Basics. Problems. When the data of test takers was assimilated. Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. 01:21 AM Q ue stion :-In a surve y it was found that 80% of vie we rs watche s DD.Basics. 19 Nove m be r 2009. 02:16 AM hi pallav.Basics.Basics.Sunday. this will absorb surplus of 90 with sports m agazine m ax Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. Wh a t a 60% b45% c15% d20% is th e m i ni m u m p er centa g e of th e v i ew er s w a tch i ng a ll th e th r ee ch a nnels ? e 10% Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams.Basics. Max value it can tak e is 100% but still we are le ft with 15% he nce this ne e ds to be put in all thre e channe ls.

but can u che ck upon: In a college.php?d=1262 35/41 .Friday. ple ase can u e x plain the 54% conce pt m ore e laborate ly. Maxima and Minima by de e pik a guliani . sports. and 57% follow arts.. coz surplus = a+b+c -100% Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. 19 Nove m be r 2009..Thursday. 23 August 2010.Basics. Problems. 12:26 PM Hi TG...I always had a proble m solving the se que stions.but not anym ore Thank you inde e d.7/5/13 MBA| CAT| CAT 2011| CAT 2012| CAT Online| MBA 2012| MBA Entrance Exams| CAT Test| Preparation| CAT Questions Re: Venn Diagrams. He nce anything you put in this are a will be counte d 3 tim e s in the the sum of a+b+c and 2 tim e s in the surplus. Problems. or arts.. 02:18 PM thanx Am ar but I cud'nt ge t this ste p. 06:16 PM de ar TG sir.Basics. Show parent | Reply totalgadha. Thank you. If I am wrong. Maxima and Minima by am ar goswam i .Saturday.. 09:57 PM Am azing Article . but m aybe the C BT club m e m be rs can have som e m ore of this stuff and a full fle dge d chapte r on se t the ory? W aiting for the R e ply.drama.Basics. Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams.Saturday.Basics. Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams.. Maxima and Minima by abhishe k rai .65% follow drama.Basics. 19 Nove m be r 2009.Thursday. the m ax im um % of stude nts who follow all 3 activitie s can be 57% (by com m on se nse . I m ight be wrong. why u have tak e n 2y he nce x + 2y = 142% Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. 6 August 2010. b and c. Problems. What can be the MAXIMUM % OF STUDENTS WHO FOLLOW ALL 3 AC TIVITIES? It se e m s to m e (m aybe wrong). 07:27 PM if u draw ve nn diagram the n y be longs to the are a which is be ing share d by 3 circle s. Maxima and Minima by ritik a bhalla . Maxima and Minima by am ar goswam i . Problems. Total surplus = 142 % suppose only two se ctions =x % and only thre e = y % = 71 % give n he nce x + 2y = 142% x + 142 =142 x= 0 Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams.waiting for your re ply.Basics. 11:28 AM Hi Pallav.com/mod/forum/discuss.. 86% follow sports. i have a doubt that is bothe ring m e . 06:19 PM Gre at one sir. i just am not able to unde rstand how x +y=100% i noe u have re plie d to this in e arlie r posts but its not cle ar k indly he lp sir. 19 Nove m be r 2009.Monday. 8 May 2010.Thursday. where every student follows at least one of the three activities.. Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. say a. Problems. since the se sam e 57% stude nts who follow arts can follow sports as we ll as dram a) as oppose d to the 54% e x plaine d by you. Problems. Maxima and Minima by vive k bajaj .Basics.. 21 August 2010. Maxima and Minima by Pallav Jain .. Problems.

19 and x – 12 will be ze ro or positive . Problems. 25 Se pte m be r 2010. Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams.. i still cudn't ge t the m ax im a /m inim a conce pt anybody can cle ar it for m e . 11 July 2011. 81 . 50 we re offe re d biscuits.. 06:51 PM In this case we assign the variable s to e ve ry are a of the Ve nn diagram and form the conditions k e e ping two things in m ind: · try to e x pre ss the are as in the Ve nn diagram through le ast num be r of variable s.x .000 pe ople 93%lik e d sony 89% Ze e 81% Star plus 75% Ze e cine m a 78% Mtv 100 did not lik e any channe ls Find Minim um Num be r of pe ople who lik e d all 5.. No num be r can be ne gative . we note than x . To de cide m ax im um value of x . 12 O ctobe r 2010. totalgadha. 105 C AT crack e rs we re offe re d te a by the inte rvie w pane l.Monday. m ax im um and m inim um num be r of C AT crack e rs who we re offe re d all thre e snack s = 30 and 19.Tue sday. I just love d your conce pt But the following proble m from late st Tim e Mock is bothe ring m e . · all the num be rs will be ze ro or positive . Pls he lp . 30 we re offe re d biscuits and toffe e s.Tue sday. 07:16 PM Supe rb Article TG. we have e x pre sse d all the are as in te rm s of x ..Basics.Saturday. the adjusting the surplus part and how do we ge t the e quation x + 2y =0 thank s Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. The re fore . Maxima and Minima by Dang Dong . 78 give s 416% So now e x ce ss is 316% So what to do afte r this? Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. and 45 we re offe re d toffe e s and te a. Problems. 9 July 2011. Problems. Maxima and Minima by albus dum be ldore .. 45 . 01:23 AM hii. 05:06 PM Hi TG. Le t the num be r of stude nts who we re offe re d all thre e snack s = x . Problems. 75.Basics. x cannot be le ss than 19 (19 is the highe r num be r be twe e n 19 and 12). 21 Se pte m be r 2010..Basics.Basics. we note that 32 .. Problems. but if anyone is watching How the m inim um value of P is 10 % .. The re fore . Maxima and Minima by Nishit Vora .hats off!!! C an u ple ase also include about 4x 4 Ve nn Diagram s .Basics. 32 and 45).Ahm e dabad. could you ple ase he lp m e out A surve y about pre fe re d TV channe ls am ongst 10. we can se e that assum ing a variable for the num be r of stude nts who we re offe re d all thre e snack s will he lp us e x pre ss all the othe r are as. So according to your conce pt adding 93 . (30 is the lowe st am ong 30. W hat is the · m ax im um and m inim um num be r of C AT crack e rs who we re offe re d all thre e snack s? · m ax im um and m inim um num be r of C AT crack e rs who we re offe re d at le ast one snack ? Answe r: Le t’s m ak e the Ve nn diagram for this que stion.. and 56 we re offe re d toffe e s.php?d=1262 36/41 . Maxima and Minima by ank ur k e jriwal . O ut of 210 inte rvie ws of IIM. In the above diagram .com/mod/forum/discuss.x will be ze ro or positive . 89 . the m ax im um value of x will be 30.7/5/13 MBA| CAT| CAT 2011| CAT 2012| CAT Online| MBA 2012| MBA Entrance Exams| CAT Test| Preparation| CAT Questions Re: Venn Diagrams.x and 30 . 03:25 PM He y i k now thogh the post is ve ry old .. Maxima and Minima by R e be ck C arvalho . 32 C AT crack e rs we re offe re d te a and biscuits. the n If surplus is 210 the n a + 2b + 3c = 210 .The n it would be a com ple te article Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams.Saturday. c be ing inte rse ction of 4 dise ase s . Since we want to assum e le ast num be r of variable s. To de cide m inim um value of x . The re fore .

php?d=1262 37/41 . As the m ax im um and m inim um value s of x are 30 and 19.7/5/13 MBA| CAT| CAT 2011| CAT 2012| CAT Online| MBA 2012| MBA Entrance Exams| CAT Test| Preparation| CAT Questions The num be r of C AT crack e rs who we re offe re d at le ast one snack = Total num be r of C AT crack e rs in the Ve nn diagram = x + 28 + 32 .12 = 104 + x . 19 August 2011. orange . Here when we calculate the surplus it is : (83+88+51)-100 = 122 Now . F = 0 to m ax im ize G which will be 140 Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. re spe ctive ly. From e quation D+E+F+2G=280. but that is not possible bcoz only 51 likes chess !! Kindly clarify this for m e Show parent | Reply totalgadha. 17 July 2011.The num be r of ppl who lik e apple is 240.x + x . those who lik e orange are 250 and those who lik e banana are 290. the maximum number of persons who can like all the 3 games can be = 122/2 = 61 . 12:18 AM A+B+C +D+E+F+G = 500 A+B+C +2(D+E+F)+3G=780 D+E+F+2G=280 Apple s =A+D+G+E=240 Banana=C +E+F+G=250 O range =B+D+F+G=290 1) Give n e =60. banana. If 60 ppl lik e only apple and banana. Q 1. Problems. 12:20 AM can sum 1 pll he lp m e out and e x plain this proble m to m e ?? Q . 06:09 PM I have a que stion : When say we have 83 persons liking soccer .Friday.Basics. re spe ctive ly. Problems.A surve y was conducte d am ong 500 ppl e ach of whom lik e s at le ast one of apple . Maxima and Minima by R ajase k aran R ajaram .x + x . the m ax im um and m inim um value of 104 + x will be 134 and 123. Maxima and Minima by soum yarup bane rje e .Sunday. 88 persons liking cricket and 51 persons liking chess. W hat is the m ax im um possible num be r of ppl who lik e all the 3 fruits? 1)110 2)120 3)150 4)130 5)140(ans) Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams.Sunday. ANY W AY TO SO LVE FO R THE VALUE O F X? Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. Problems. Maxima and Minima by k m . the n what is the m ax im um possible num be r of ppl who lik e only orange ? 1)120 2) 130 3)140(ans) Q 2. If 120 ppl lik e only apple . the n what is the m ax im um possible num be r of ppl who lik e only orange and banana? 1)170 2)160(ans) 3)180 Q 3. E.19 + 30 .com/mod/forum/discuss. D+F+2G=220 In orde r to m ax im ize B in e quation B+D+F+G=290 put D and F = 60 and he nce B will be 140 3) In e quation D+E+F+2G=280 put D.Basics.Basics.x + x + 45 . Max im um and m inim um num be r of C AT crack e rs who we re offe re d at le ast one snack = 134 and 123. Total number of people surveyed is 100. 24 July 2011.

So n(AUB) = n(A) + n(B) . Problems. is m ore than the no of stude nts opting for e x actly 2 of the 3 subje cts. Thank ing you sir for the above article .Sunday.com/mod/forum/discuss.. Maxima and Minima by n k . 10:31 PM Nishit Vora. Problems.Basics. 16%(10.n(A∩B) = 83 + 55 . Maxima and Minima by R ajase k aran R ajaram .Basics. 3 Fe bruary 2012. Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. C an you ple ase he lp m e in solving Le t A de note the se t of inte ge rs be twe e n 1 and 1000 which are divisible by 12. C annot unde rstand how to approach. How m any e le m e nts are in the se t A∪B? (A) 108 (B) 109 (C ) 110 (D) 111 Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. Is the answer 1500 for this question. Be cause le t the the 57% to be part of othe r pe rce ntage s as we ll.000)-100 Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. Maxima and Minima by Sre e dipto Bhattacharyya . Maxima and Minima by gaggi d .Sunday.Monday. Problems. that in the be low part the re is the value is x -29. C orre ct m e if i am wrong Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. Q . 1. 12 Se pte m be r 2011. plz he lp. C An you e x plain why in the que stion whe re u have calculate d the m ax im um no of pe ople doing all thre e activitie s is 54 % inste ad of 57% as it is visible dire ctly. It is also said that at le ast one stude nt opte d for all the 3 subje cts. 08:23 PM one thing got wrong in the (2.27 = 111. is m ore than the no of stude nts opting for all the 3 subje cts. Problems. Min no of stude nts opting for m aths:? a)38 b)37 c)36 d)35 e )34 3. 08:17 PM Hi TG.Monday.Friday. In a group of 100 stude nts. 12:33 PM Hi Eve ryone .Basics.php?d=1262 38/41 .Basics. Max no of stude nts opting for che m :? a)72 b)79 c)80 d)81 e )None of the se 2.Monday.. e ach stude nt has to opt for one or m ore of the 3 subje cts am ong Physics. Le t B de note the se t of inte ge rs be twe e n 1 and 1000 which are divisible by 18. 30 O ctobe r 2011. what is the m ax no of stude nts who opte d for all the thre e subje cts? a)15 b)16 c)17 d)18 e )19 totalgadha. which in turn. Problems.18)] = [1000/36] = 27.). 12 Se pte m be r 2011.Basics. 12:28 PM Hi n k Number of elements in set A = n(A) = [1000/12] = 83 and number of elements in B = n(B) = [1000/18] = 55 Number of elements common in both A and B = n(A∩B) = [1000/LCM(12. 12:38 AM Hi cud anyone he lp m e with this proble m ple ase .Basics. 31 O ctobe r 2011. The num be r of stude nts opting for m aths is m ore than that of physics which in turn is m ore than that of che m . Maxima and Minima by TG Te am . C he m and Maths. Problems.7/5/13 MBA| CAT| CAT 2011| CAT 2012| CAT Online| MBA 2012| MBA Entrance Exams| CAT Test| Preparation| CAT Questions Re: Venn Diagrams. If e x actly half the stude nts opte d for m aths. inste ad of the x -19. which in turn. Maxima and Minima by Gaurav Tom ar . 9 O ctobe r 2011. Kamal Lohia Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams.

Maxima and Minima by Pre rna Golani . if it helps.e.7/5/13 MBA| CAT| CAT 2011| CAT 2012| CAT Online| MBA 2012| MBA Entrance Exams| CAT Test| Preparation| CAT Questions 4. 22 March 2012. Gre at Article .ple ase e x plain Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams.Thursday. Maxima and Minima by Pre rna Golani . I got it. Kamal Lohia Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. Kamal Lohia Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. 24 March 2012. W hat can be the m ax im um and m inim um pe rce ntage of stude nts who follow · all thre e activitie s · e x actly two activitie s W e can also solve it m athe m atically Þ x + 2y = 108%.Monday. So no set can have more than 100% i. 86% follow sports.. Maxima and Minima by TG Te am .Thursday.Basics.Sunday. whe re x + y £ 100%. or arts.. Maxima and Minima by ne ha aggarwal .. 14 May 2012. 14 May 2012. I am unable to unde rstand how x +2y =108%. 06:51 PM Hi Prerna If you understand what are x and y then it's easy to get that x + 2y is the surplus i.. Maxima and Minima by TG Te am . Max no of stude nts who opte d for only physics:? a)33 b)50 c)49 d)48 e )52 5.php?d=1262 39/41 .Tue sday.Basics. Problems. what is extra than 100%. Max no of stude nts who opte d for physics and che m but not m aths:? a)47 b)48 c)49 d)50 e )51 Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. 10:01 PM Hm m m m m m . Problems.e. How it is calculate d.. whe re e ve ry stude nt follows at le ast one of the thre e activitie s....Ple ase e x plain this part. we should allot maximum number to intersection of two which is 100%. and 57% follow arts.Basics. whe re as m inim um value of x will give m ax im um value of y. 11:30 PM The m ax im um surplus it can accom m odate is 2 × 100% = 200%.65% follow dram a.. 20 May 2012.. 08:05 AM Hi TG sir. I'd suggest you to re-read the article again.. 22 March 2012.Saturday.dram a. 15 May 2012. Thank s Sir Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. sports. Problems. Problems. Maxima and Minima by Pre rna Golani . Problems. The m ax im um value of x will give m inim um value of y.plz Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams.Basics. 01:04 PM Hi Neha 100% means all persons.. Problems. I am just unable to unde rstand that how are you adjusting the surplus to inte rse ction of two circle s.Basics. Maxima and Minima by ne ha aggarwal . all of persons. 11:28 PM Hi TG In a colle ge . Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams.. For m inim um case : Lik e if we have a surplus of 108% how do we conclude that a surplus of 100% is adjuste d to inte rse ction of two circle s.Basics. See.Basics.com/mod/forum/discuss.. Problems. So if we want that there should be least number of persons who fall in all three category..Monday. 07:12 PM totalgadha.

22 Se pte m be r 2012. 32 . is m ore than the no.Tue sday.. The no. 68 . 98 . 12:33 PM @De vishre e Nath 6)d 7)e 8)e 9)c 10)e Show parent | Reply totalgadha. None) Max no of stude nts who study only X ? (100 . none) If it's k nown that e x actly half the stude nts study Z. 07:01 PM I am too confuse d on this.. 16 O ctobe r 2012. Maxima and Minima by ishant goe l . Q . 70 .. 31 . 23 May 2012. Maxima and Minima by k shitij sharm a .Basics.. 33 .will I be able to download vide os le ssons on e ach topic by paying 1000 rs Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. ur he lp re quire d in this que stion. none ) Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. Problems. of stude nts studying Z is m ore than no.W e dne sday.Saturday. Problems. 4 O ctobe r 2012.1) Q . Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. in turn. AW ESO ME PIEC E O F W O R K TG SIR !!!. Maxima and Minima by arsh arora . Y and Z . 12:59 PM plz te ll m e whe the r vide os le sson be provide d to the cbt m e m be r.2) Q . 23 May 2012. stude nts studying X.Basics. Problems.UR SUR PLUS conce pt sim ply rocck sssss!!!!. of stude nts who study e x actly 2 subje cts. of stude nts who study Y ? (67 .Basics.. 05:06 PM TG Sir. Maxima and Minima by De vishre e Nath . whe re e ach stude nt studie s one or m ore of the thre e subje cts am ong X. 20 O ctobe r 2012. is m ore than the num be r of stude nts who study Y. Problems. Problems. Problems. 02:50 PM Sorry m y frie nd i have trie d to solve the proble m but i dam n confuse with sum if you ge t any solution the n fwd to m e .. 147 . The que stion says the re are 4 cars with radio and powe r windows (off course without AC ). 69 . It is k nown that atle ast 1 stude nt studie s all the subje cts. Maxima and Minima by bam le sh k um ar .W e dne sday. 150 . Maxima and Minima by Ank ur Jain . 15 O ctobe r 2012. 03:32 PM Hi TG. Maxima and Minima by bam le sh k um ar . 12:58 PM plz te ll m e whe the r vide os le sson be provide d to the cbt m e m be r. 01:18 PM sum . Problems.Thursday. of stude nts who study all the subje cts. So . 21 O ctobe r 2012. which in turn.7/5/13 MBA| CAT| CAT 2011| CAT 2012| CAT Online| MBA 2012| MBA Entrance Exams| CAT Test| Preparation| CAT Questions I am unable to unde rstand x +2y Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams.Basics. which..4) Max no of stude nts who study Y ? (148 . can u plz he lp m e solve d proble m give n in the attachm e nt???? Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams.will I be able to download vide os le ssons on e ach topic by paying 1000 rs Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams.Thank s. which in turn is m ore than the no. 99 .Basics.php?d=1262 40/41 .Basics.com/mod/forum/discuss.Basics.3) Q . 149 . The re is a group of 200 stude nts.Sunday.Basics. of stude nts who study all the thre e ??( 30 . 97 .Monday. what are we subtracting 3 (all 3 fe ature s) from this ? Doe sn't se e m to m e corre ct ! Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. Problems. Maxima and Minima by R upe rt Martin .. Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. None) Min no. what is the m ax no.Saturday..docx he llo TG .

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