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Venn Diagrams- Basics, Problems, Maxima and Minima by Total Gadha - Tue sday, 18 Se pte m be r 2007, 04:49 PM

For all the C AT aspirants taking C AT in 2009 or 2010, this chapter should provide some insight into Venn diagrams and methods for solving the problems. This chapter comes on the demand of some high octane TG users who are responsible for my lack of sleep and excessive intake of caffeine last night. I hope this resolves many of their problems in Venn diagrams.

Venn diagrams are pictorial representations used to display mathematical or logical relationships between two or more given sets (groups of things). The drawing consists of two or more circles, each representing a specific group. Each Venn diagram begins with a rectangle representing the universal set. Then each set in the problem is represented by a circle. Any values that belong to more than one set will be placed in the sections where the circles overlap. A typical venn diagram is shown in the figure below:

In the figure, set A contains the multiples of 2 which are less than 30 and set B contains multiples of 3 which are less than 25. Therefore, A = {2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 12... 26, 28} and B = {3, 6, 9, 12... 21, 24}. The various areas in the above diagram depict the following relationships: Â· Intersection (A âˆ©B)- Denotes the set of elements that are shared by two or more given sets. In the figure given below, the intersection of the two sets is shown.

A âˆ© B = {6, 12, 18, 24} Â· ˜Only A or ˜Only B- The part of set A, or set B, which is not shared by any other set is known as "only A," or "only B." In the figure given below, the two parts are shown:

Only A = {2, 4, 8, 10, 14, 16, 20, 22, 26, 28}, only B = {3, 9, 15, 21} Â· Union (AUB)- Denotes all the elements of the given sets taken once.

A U B = {2, 3, 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 12, 14, 15, 16, 18, 20, 21, 22, 24, 26, 28} It can be seen that

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The venn diagram for three sets is shown below:

It can be shown that

Problem-solving through Venn diagrams: I use the following method to solve problems through Venn diagrams:

Solved Examples: Of all the users on Totalgadha.com, 80% spend time in C AT Quant-DI forum whereas 60% spend time in C AT verbal forum. If only those users will crack C AT who spend time in both the forums, what percentage of users of TotalGadha Â· Â· will crack C AT? will not crack C AT?

Total Number of cars according to the diagram = 2 + 6 + 3 + 1 + 5 + 2 + 4 = 23. Therefore, number of cars having none of the given options = 25 - 23 = 2. New Age C onsultants have three consultants Gyani, Medha and Buddhi. The sum of the number of projects handled by Gyani and Buddhi individually is equal to the number of projects in which Medha is involved. All three consultants are involved together in 6 projects. Gyani works with Medha in 14 projects. Buddhi has 2 projects with Medha but without Gyani, and 3 projects with Gyani but without Medha. The total number of projects for New Age C onsultants is one less than twice the number of projects in which more than one consultant is involved.

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(CAT 2003- Leaked) What is the number of projects in which Gyani alone is involved? 1. 0 2. 1. 3. 4. 4. cannot be determined What is the number of projects in which Medha alone is involved? 1. 0 2. 1. 3. 4. 4. cannot be determined Answer: The Venn diagram for the three consultants is shown below:

Total Number of projects = 2 x number of projects in which more than one consultant is involved - 1 = 2 x 19 - 1 = 37. Therefore, X + 8 + 6 + 3 + Y + 2 + X + Y - 16 = 37 Ã ž X + Y = 17. The values of X or Y cannot be uniquely determined. Medha alone is involved in X + Y - 16 = 17 - 16 = 1 project. Concept of Maxima and Minima: 1. When the total number of elements is fixed Let's have a look at the Venn diagram of two sets again:

Imagine that in the beginning, the number of elements in all the areas is zero, as shown above. All the sets are empty right now. Let's see what happens if I insert one element inside A âˆ©B:

We can see that adding 1 element to A âˆ©B increases the number of elements in both A and B by 1. The total number of elements in all areas combined is 1 only (0 + 1 + 0) but if you add the number of elements in A and B (A + B), the addition will come up to 2. Therefore, adding 1 element to A âˆ©B gives an extra 1 element. Hence, for every surplus of 1 element we can add 1 element to A âˆ©B. Letâ€™s see the Venn diagram for 3 sets:

In diagram 1, we have added 1 element to intersection of only two sets (A and B but not C ). We can see that A and B both increase by 1 and

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In the above diagram, we have expressed all the areas in terms of x. To decide maximum value of x, we note that 32 - x, 45 - x and 30 - x will be zero or positive. Therefore, the maximum value of x will be 30. (30 is the lowest among 30, 32 and 45). To decide minimum value of

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what is the m ax im um possible value of c? O ptions a) 63 b)64 c)65 d)66 e ) none If a.7/5/13 MBA| CAT| CAT 2011| CAT 2012| CAT Online| MBA 2012| MBA Entrance Exams| CAT Test| Preparation| CAT Questions i was not able to solve e ve n a single que stion in the se t u m e ntione d. it has be e n m e ntione d that e ve ry stude nt follows at le ast one activity.. are give n.Friday. 11:21 AM hello Tg totalgadha. 09:04 AM TG so sorry ye ste rday ne t was nt work ing at m y place . Total Gadha Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams.d. 49 can be allote d to the inte rse ction of H and C only as we have to m ax crick e t (C ) the n inte rse ction of F&C Xonly= 0 inte rse ction of F&H Xonly=0 the re m aining part can tak e 51 which should be divide d as 16+17+18 and the 16 should be allote d to crick e t(C ) and 17 and 18 can be allote d to only F and only H.Thursday. This k ind of state m e nt is critical to de te rm ine that AUBUC is fix e d. Maxima and Minima by Gul Gul .f and g are all distinct the m inim um possible no. 20 Se pte m be r 2007.php?d=1262 13/41 . 08:09 AM hi Gullz.e . Maxima and Minima by sonal singh .. if it is not give n that e ve ry pe rson be longs to at le ast one cate gory. 20 Se pte m be r 2007. 05:20 PM for GO LU'S que stion . Problems.can u pass the answe r to m e too if u ge t it ple ase . Eve n if the total num be r of stude nts/pe ople e tc...Basics. 21 Se pte m be r 2007.he re r d options If d>e >f and c is le ss than a as we ll as b. Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams.. Problems.Friday... 21 Se pte m be r 2007.I hav 2 go 4 a full day training Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. In the pre vious se ts. Problems. thank s for the e x planation.Friday. only hock e y+only football+only crick e t > both H & C and not F +both C & Fand not H+both F & Hand not C > ALL THR EE m e ans H only + F only + C only > inte rse ction of 2 only > inte rse ction of 3 we can tak e inte rse ction of 3 as 0 now inte rse ction of 2 gam e s only can tak e a m ax value of 49. of stude nts who e nrolle d for atle ast 1 sport is ? a)9 b)10 c)11 d) 13 e ) none If a is le ss than b as we ll as c. Problems.Basics.b.Basics.Basics.. This is be cz of the condition (C has to be le ss than A and B) SO 0+0+49+16 = 65 IS THE MAX VALUE C R IC KET C AN TAKE PAR T 2 &3 O F THE Q IS NO T C O MPLETE Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. Maxima and Minima by R V .Basics. c re spe ctive ly. 21 Se pte m be r 2007. the n only the othe r re m aining part can be 51 and be gre ate r.Thursday. of stude nts who e nrolle d only for hock e y is ? a) 32 b) 48 c) 49 d) 50 e ) none Answe rs are c.if ne e de d i can provide the options too. AUBUC is not fix e d. Problems.com/mod/forum/discuss. Maxima and Minima by ne e lak anta siva .c. RV Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. the no. Maxima and Minima by Total Gadha . e . 07:46 PM Hi Nitin. i unde rstood it.

2 O ctobe r 2007. 12:35 PM for the 1st one a+b+c-e -2f+g=100 also d+e +f+g =100 now a+b+c = 100+e +2f-g so e +2f+-g should be m ax . Maxima and Minima by Uthay Mathi .. Maxima and Minima by ran for_cat . Maxima and Minima by Alpa de dhia .Sunday.php?d=1262 16/41 . Problems. re gards Alpa Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. 30 Se pte m be r 2007..Basics.. Problems. 1 O ctobe r 2007. is 37 the answe r . 05:21 PM This is a cool stuff de ar TG. now d+e +f+g =100 and d>e >f ==> for e and f to be as m ax as possible e should be 32 and f is 33. for the first que stion i have sim ply tak e n the le ast num be r of pe ople in e ach citie s who can opt for all the qualitie s .Basics.Tue sday. Problems.com/mod/forum/discuss. 2 O ctobe r 2007. Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams.(g=0 and f=35) so a+b+c =100+32+66=198 so for a>c and b>c c can have a m ax value of 65 he re .Basics.whe re a contains all the e le m e nts distinct from b and c Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams..Basics.Basics. 11:13 PM re e e e e e e e e e aaaallly ve ry goood. can u e x plain sam e things in case of 4 or 5 circle ve nn diagram s. for the 3rd que stion b>a and c>a ==> le t say b and c constitute s the sam e e le m e nts in that case the m ax possible value of a is 49. Maxima and Minima by lavik a gupta . Problems. Maxima and Minima by pranav te ndolk ar ..Tue sday. 3 O ctobe r 2007. for the 2nd que stion: a+b+c-e -2f+g=100 d+e +f+g =100 k e e p d=0 ==> we can che ck for any arbitary value s of e f and g that the distinct value s are possible e +f+g =100 or g=1 e =50 f=49 a+b+c =100 -1 +50+49=198 a b c can have diffe re nt value s he re as we ll...Monday.. Problems.W e dne sday. 10:23 AM Hi swe ta.. is the re any the ore tical way othe r than drawing ve nn diagram as highe r diagram s are com ple x Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. 04:26 PM totalgadha.7/5/13 Attache d MBA| CAT| CAT 2011| CAT 2012| CAT Online| MBA 2012| MBA Entrance Exams| CAT Test| Preparation| CAT Questions is the proble m and m y approach ... ple ase le t m e k nw.. I'd be ve ry gr8ful if u could te ll m e whats wrong with m y approach !!!!!!!!!!!! Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. so the no is 26+25+26+18+15+29 = 139 for the se cond que stion .

.Saturday. Maxima and Minima by swe ta x ... 07:04 AM TG Sir Mindblowing article Absolute ly te rrific !!! Thnx a lot Sir if u can he lp with one article on Graphs (line ar. of pe ople who e at all the 6 type of food. 11:59 AM Kudos Sir. 91% e at north Indian food. W hat m ust be the m inim um no.. i have a proble m pls solve it. U got it right how did u solve the se cond one (37) Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams.. 3 O ctobe r 2007. 11:20 AM re ally a ve ry gud article t g sir. 79% e at italin food and 80% e at contine ntal food. C an we m inim ise the only thre e part as i e x plaine d.php?d=1262 17/41 .W e dne sday.quadratic.82% e at Am e rican food .Basics.Saturday.. 11:34 PM He y Alpha.pls post som e te x t on functions... if 7 pe ople do not e at any of the 6 type s of food? A:0 B:13 c:27 D:55 Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams.. mindblowing. only Banana and C he rry = 40% re m aining 5 can be only Banana..W e dne sday...... 11:51 PM Hi TG In the first e x am pe proble m of m ax im a & m inim a u have m e ntione d "As the inte rse ction of only two se ts can accom m odate only a surplus of 100%".. 78% e at C hine se food..m odulus. 3 O ctobe r 2007. Maxima and Minima by sgx 100 O nline . CM Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. 1 A surve y was conducte d on the e ating habits of a group of 1000 pe ople . Maxima and Minima by shriram sam ant .Thursday.. superb... Maxima and Minima by Varun C houdhary ..How it can be only 100% why cant we accom m adate the suplus of 110% as follows? only Apple and Banana = 30%.7/5/13 MBA| CAT| CAT 2011| CAT 2012| CAT Online| MBA 2012| MBA Entrance Exams| CAT Test| Preparation| CAT Questions hi tg. Thank s & R e gards.re sults show that 92% of the pe ople surve ye d e at south Indian food. 6 O ctobe r 2007. 6 O ctobe r 2007...only apple and che rry = 40%....Saturday. 05:10 PM fantastic.. Problems. 6 O ctobe r 2007. Problems.) it wud be re ally he lpful to all of us Thank ing You Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. totalgadha. Ple ase he lp m e . 4 O ctobe r 2007.m ax im a and m inim a Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams.Basics..Basics. Problems.. Maxima and Minima by Kum ar M .Basics. Problems.Basics. Problems.. Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. Maxima and Minima by ashish tyagi .com/mod/forum/discuss..Basics. Problems.

7 dont like any of the 6 types.Basics. Thank s a lot!! Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. W hat m ust be the m inim um no. we can have at most 993 * 4 = 3972 ppl surplus. Som e body Ple ase he lp !!!! Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. 7 O ctobe r 2007.Basics. Now the surplus = [(93+89+81+75+78) . Find the minimum number of people liking all the the 5 channels. I am not able to solve this que stion prope rly: A survey about Tv viewership was conducted on 100 respondents.Saturday. 15 O ctobe r 2007. The total num be r of pe ople watching any of the se channe ls = (100-1)=99(I don't watch any).. 3 channe l groups = 3.99] = 317. Again for e ve ry incre ase in the num be r of pe ople watching 4 channe ls. 13 O ctobe r 2007.. the re is actually a 20% incre ase from the initial (I am not sure whe the r we have to conside r all the 5 com binations or not).. 91% e at north Indian food. Problems. the re sultant incre ase = [9-5]/5 = 80%. A surve y was conducte d on the e ating habits of a group of 1000 pe ople . So the surplus we have be e n able to cove r till now = (100+180+160) = 340.. 12:01 PM TG Sir. the re is a re sultant incre ase of [8-5]/5 = 60% (He re also are we to conside r the total num be r of com binations possible ). ATB! Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. The n for e ve ry incre ase in the num be r of pe ople watching 3 channe ls.Thursday. 75 liked zee cinema. Maxima and Minima by Abhra C hatte rje e . I have no words to de scribe the am azing work you are doing . total= 920 + 910 + 820 + 780 + 790 + 800 = 5020 Of the 1000 ppl.Basics. Maxima and Minima by Prasad L . 81 liked Stratv. Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. of pe ople who e at all the 6 type of food. Remaining surplus to be accomodated in the portion where all 6 groups intersect = 4027 -3972 = totalgadha... the TIME m ate rial also has som e quick m e thods to crack the ve nn diagram s. Problems.Sunday.php?d=1262 18/41 .. 4 channe l groups = 2. Now for e ve ry incre ase in the num be r of vie we rs watching two channe ls. 11 O ctobe r 2007.. 79% e at italin food and 80% e at contine ntal food.. 05:52 PM A ve ry good e x planation. 93 liked sony. The results are. 78% e at C hine se food.. 01:05 PM hi ashish.89 liked Zee. 10:19 AM Hi TG. BTW .993 (Becoz 7 ppl dont like any of the 6 types of food) = 4027 Accomodating the surplus in the portions of 5 intersecting groups.82% e at Am e rican food . I am not at all confide nt of the answe r arrive d at. Hope the TG use rs m ak e use of that as we ll. if 7 pe ople do not e at any of the 6 type s of food? A:0 B:13 c:27 D:55 ppl havi ng south i ndi an food = 920 ppl havi ng north i ndi an food = 910 ppl havi ng Ameri can food = 820 ppl havi ng Chi nese food = 780 ppl havi ng Itali an food = 790 ppl havi ng Conti nental food = 800 hence.. Total Genius.Basics.re sults show that 92% of the pe ople surve ye d e at south Indian food.. Problems... Maxima and Minima by Ank ush Ke shwani . Maxima and Minima by Mou Suk oshi ..Monday. Problems. So the re ne e d not be any pe ople watching all the five channe ls. 1 did not like any of the above. I will te ll you the approach that I followe d.. Remaining = 1000 -7 = 993 Surplus = 5020 .com/mod/forum/discuss.. Now he re I conside r the com binations of groups possible for e ach of the se groups: 2 channe l groups = 5. 78 like Mtv..7/5/13 MBA| CAT| CAT 2011| CAT 2012| CAT Online| MBA 2012| MBA Entrance Exams| CAT Test| Preparation| CAT Questions thanks TG. Ple ase corre ct m e whe re I am going wrong.

four people play Carrom also. we m ove to 2 inte rse cting grps only whe n we are unable to accom odate within non-inte rse cting portions. of people who play Chess only (iii) In every three people who play Chess and Chinese Checkers only.7/5/13 MBA| CAT| CAT 2011| CAT 2012| CAT Online| MBA 2012| MBA Entrance Exams| CAT Test| Preparation| CAT Questions look close ly thru TG's article .. of people who play all the three games is equal to the no...Basics. so we have alre ady conside re d sm alle r inte rse cting grps be fore m oving on to the highe r num be r of inte rse cting grps..Chess . (i) Thrice the no. brilliantly e x plaine d conce pts ... we m ove the surplus to gps whe re all inte rse ct only whe n we cannot accom odate the m within 5 inte rse cting grps... i sugge st u draw a diag as it will he lp u to unde rstand the accom odation of the surplus be tte r. 16 Nove m be r 2007. lik e in the prob.... there are five people who play none of the three games... Maxima and Minima by Divyasha R ay .thank s a ton sir. 12:15 PM hi ajay look close ly thru TG's article . 24 June 2008.. 4 June 2008.com/mod/forum/discuss.. 10:57 PM a big thank u to tg sir. Problems.be tte r than any coaching you can ge t. sim ilarly.. of people who Chinese Checkers .......... (ii) The no... How many people play Chess but not Carrom? 3. How many people play exactly two games? 2...Basics.. we m ove to 2 inte rse cting grps only whe n we are unable to accom odate within non-inte rse cting portions.... Problems..php?d=1262 20/41 ..... i sugge st u draw a diag as it will he lp u to unde rstand the accom odation of the surplus be tte r... 11:21 AM TG you rock m an. lik e in the prob.... (iv) In every seven people who play Chinese Checkers... Maxima and Minima by yash m odi . Problems...Basics.!!!! totalgadha...How many people play Chess or Carrom Divyasha Edit | De Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams... Problems. we m ove to 3 inte rse cting grps only whe n we are unable to accom odate within 2 inte rse cting grps.Thursday. so we have alre ady conside re d sm alle r inte rse cting grps be fore m oving on to the highe r num be r of inte rse cting grps..Tue sday.... we m ove to 3 inte rse cting grps only whe n we are unable to accom odate within 2 inte rse cting grps.. The Following information is obtained in the survey....Friday....Carrom and Chinese Checkers.thank s again.. Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams.Basics... Maxima and Minima by Mou Suk oshi . How many people do not play Chinese Checkers? 4... of people who play Chinese Checkers and Carrom is equal to the no. sim ilarly.. Maxima and Minima by abhinav tripathi . Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams.. (v) For every four people who play exactly two games. 26 June 2008...... 05:26 PM Hi TG sir Can u please help me with this particular question??? A survey was conducted in a community of 350 people regarding three games ..W e dne sday.. Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. we m ove the surplus to gps whe re all inte rse ct only whe n we cannot accom odate the m within 5 inte rse cting grps..there is one person who plays Carrom and Chinese Checkers only and two persons who play none of the three games Questions: 1......

Que: In a class of 120 students. that's why max no. Problems. 34 study M+H. of students study more than 3 subjects is 93-79=14 Please let me know is this correct way of sloving this que. Maxima and Minima by vive k ghiria . Maxima and Minima by ashu jain . Problems.which in turn is m ore than that of 3. in a job fair am ong 100 participants who atte nde d the inte rvie w.40 e . 01:04 PM The proble m that I am facing is that the le sson is give n on solving the que stion base d on pe rce ntage but m ost of the tim e the que stion doe s not contain pe rce ntage but re al num be rs whe re conve rting into pe rce ntage can be cum be rsom e .Basics. the n it will he lp us a lot. Maxima and Minima by Pragya dasgupta . 17 Se pte m be r 2009. Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. is m ore than that of 2. 03:05 PM Hi ashu. Lik e this que stion give n be low: Q )In a surve y re port. C ? a. 67 study E and 73 study M. I have one conce rn. B is m ore than that of C . 75 use the sam e products of brand B and 175 use the sam e products of brand C .120 surplus = 59+67+73-120=79 Total number of students study more than one sub = 34+33+26=93 b'coz surplus is 79 but being accomodated is 93. E and M. As of now.56 b. 13 August 2009. 75 use the sam e products of brand B and 175 use the sam e products of brand C . it was found that 100 m e n use a products of brand A.Basics. Then find the max and min number of students who study all the three subjects? If I solve the question by drawing the venn diagram the max value I am getting as 26. of participants who atte nde d the inte rvie w of co. Problems. Maxima and Minima by R O HIT K .Basics. A? a. 07:30 PM HEllo C an Anyone he lp m e ith this proble m Is the re any Fix e d proce ss to solve this ype of proble m s.W hat is the m ax possible no of participants who atte nde d the inte rvie w of co. which was conducte d in a club of 300 m e n.Thursday. 26 July 2009.Thursday. Q )In a surve y re port. 59 study H.the num be r of participants who atte nde d for com pany A is m ore than that of co. 26 study E+M and 33 study H+E.48 Q .Sunday. total students .Am ong the se 100 participants at le ast one pe rson atte nde d the inte rvie w of all the 3 com panie s. W hat now??? I am not ge tting the hang of this thing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams.php?d=1262 29/41 . 17 Se pte m be r 2009. each student studies at least one of the subjects from H. it was found that 100 m e n use a products of brand A.67 e . Afte r going through a particular le sson.38 c. Thank s a lot for the le ssons Vive k Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams.Thursday. I have to se arch the proble m s re late d to that chapte r in Q uant-DI forum which tak e bit e x tra tim e . While if I solve this question in this way then I m getting rt ans. Problems. 06:25 PM Hi TG I am going through le ssons in this forum one by one .The no of participants who atte nde d inte rvie w of e x actly one co.Basics. Maxima and Minima by Nitin Kum ar .45 c.7/5/13 MBA| CAT| CAT 2011| CAT 2012| CAT Online| MBA 2012| MBA Entrance Exams| CAT Test| Preparation| CAT Questions Re: Venn Diagrams.Sunday. If fe w proble m s pe rtaining to that chapte r will be available . 11:08 PM Hi TG.com/mod/forum/discuss.Basics. Q :W hat is the m inim un possible no.36 b.64 Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams.65 d. W hat is the m ax im um possible num be r of m e n using all the thre e brands? totalgadha. Problems.37 d. 12 July 2009. which was conducte d in a club of 300 m e n. W hat is the m ax im um possible num be r of m e n using all the thre e brands? He re x +2y = 50.

Basics.Thursday. 17 Se pte m be r 2009. C an anyone ple ase e x plain m e how to approach this k ind of que stions? In a class of 30 stude nts.. 11:33 PM Hi Ashu. Maxima and Minima by ashu jain . Problems. Ple ase che ck if I am going wrong anywhe re .Basics. W hat is the m ax im um possible num be r of m e n using all the thre e brands? Ans: Total Me n=300 A=100. which was conducte d in a club of 300 m e n.Basics. Maxima and Minima by ashu jain . Maxima and Minima by R O HIT K ..Thursday.. 08:06 PM The O A is 25. 17 Se pte m be r 2009. B=75. Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. 08:11 PM I think answe r should be option e ) 15.? For e ach m e n allocate d to A^B^C . we ge t surplus of 2.. the re are 2 cate gorie s of stude nts: Liars: who always lie .. Maxima and Minima by Pallav Jain . Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. it was found that 100 m e n use a products of brand A.Basics. Truth Te lle rs: who always spe ak the truth. 19 Se pte m be r 2009. Problems.? Ple ase che ck and re ve rt back . The re fore for surplus of 50 we allocate 50/2=25 m e n to A^B^C .. 17 Se pte m be r 2009. 02:06 PM totalgadha. Maxima and Minima by ashu jain . Q )In a surve y re port.com/mod/forum/discuss. The se stude nts m ak e thre e diffe re nt state m e nts as follows : State m e nt I :Se ve n of the m say “ The re are e x actly 7 Liars in this class” State m e nt II :Eight of the m say “ The re are e x actly 8 Liars in this class” State m e nt III :The re st of the m say “ The re are e x actly 15 Liars in this class”. 05:08 PM Hi All. Anyways com ing back to your que stion. How m any Liars are the re in the class ? O ptions :a) 7 Thank s Pallav Show parent | Reply b) 8 c) 23 d) 22 e ) 15 Re: Venn Diagrams. 75 use the sam e products of brand B and 175 use the sam e products of brand C . Problems. Hope this he lps.Basics. C =175 A+B+C =350 Surplus=350-300=50 Now how do we allocate this surplus 50 to m ax im ize A^B^C . Sorry m ate i m ade a big goof up .. He nce 25 is the Answe r. 17 Se pte m be r 2009. Problems.Thursday.php?d=1262 30/41 .Thursday. R ohit Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams.Saturday. Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. Problems.7/5/13 MBA| CAT| CAT 2011| CAT 2012| CAT Online| MBA 2012| MBA Entrance Exams| CAT Test| Preparation| CAT Questions is the answe r 200.

.php?d=1262 32/41 ... Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. Assum e m . 100 15 = 85 ) and placed it in exactly three region.e.. He nce what you are doing is wrong -.. z to be the inte rse ction of a and b. 2 Nove m be r 2009.. ( from e qn 1) so x + y + z + l <= 57 ----. Problems. y.Sunday.100 = 115 This 115 has to be accomodated in the "exactly two" and "exactly three" region.Basics. The total num be r of pe ople atte nding exactly one of the classe s is 100... He nce we conside r z = 1.. As far as ques 1 is concerned the max for exactly 2 activities : it can accomodate 100 students ( as the total students we've is only 100 ) remaining 15 (i. Maxima and Minima by m ayuri joshi .since you are assum ing a surplus ove r the value of 100 but the total value is NO T 100 in the first place ... so l = 31. 01:31 AM First one 's answe r is 56 2nd que stion's answe r is 142 Give n is "who e nrolle d for sk ating and swim m ing only was 10 m ore than the num be r of stude nts who e nrolle d for sk ating and dancing only totalgadha. this 15 is taken from exactly two region ( i.. n. also m + n + p + x + y + z + l = total num be r of stude nts. c and a. I think you have m isunde rstood the proble m . Le t l be the inte rse ction of all thre e . p to be the num be r of pe ople atte nding e x actly one of the 3 classe s... 1 Nove m be r 2009. 115-100 ) has to be accomodated in the exactly three region.. Also Saravanar...Basics. 12:36 PM For the ne x t proble m . W e can conside r z as 0 for m inim um value but the e qn doe snt have + inte ge r value s upon solving.7/5/13 MBA| CAT| CAT 2011| CAT 2012| CAT Online| MBA 2012| MBA Entrance Exams| CAT Test| Preparation| CAT Questions Surplus = 215 .com/mod/forum/discuss.) solving 1 & 2 we ge t l = 1.. The total num be r of pe ople atte nding the classe s is NO T 100. For obtaining m inim um value s. using both above e qns 2 (x + y + z) + 3l = 115 subs in this e qn y = x + 10 as pe r give n data.. 12:38 PM Hi Jayant this is re late d to your proble m . 2(x + y + z) + 3l = 115 -----e qn 1. pls let me know whether u hav understood or not ??? Cheers. This is how I think u do this Assum e a. so the ans is 85.. (and re quire d value of x + y + z is m ax whe n value of e qn 57.. so total number of students (min) = 100 + 0 + 1 + 10 + 31 = 142... b..Monday.. the n we have 2 e quations m + n + p + 2(x + y + z) + 3l = 80 + 75 + 60 = 215 but m + n + p = 100 so.. if we conside r x as 0 the n y = 10. c to be the thre e se ts.e. 100 + x + y + z + l cannot be m ore that 157.. 1 Nove m be r 2009. Problems. Assum e x .. Problems...e qn 2..Sunday. Maxima and Minima by m ayuri joshi ... Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. b and c.Basics. x + y + z = 56 hence the maximum value of students attending exactly two classes is 56. Maxima and Minima by am it am it . now 100 + x + y + z + a = total num be r of stude nts.

Thursday. 18 Nove m be r 2009.php?d=1262 34/41 . 12:53 PM he y ashwin can u plz e x plain it in de tail. can you please explain it ? A REAL test contains 3 sections: QA. 10:56 AM 15pe rce nt Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. Maxima and Minima by sam m y badyal . Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams.W e dne sday. Maxima and Minima by Pallav Jain . Problems. Maxima and Minima by Pallav Jain . then find the possible percentage of students who attempted only two sections.7/5/13 MBA| CAT| CAT 2011| CAT 2012| CAT Online| MBA 2012| MBA Entrance Exams| CAT Test| Preparation| CAT Questions ans is 70 total surplus= 90 50 in busine ss and politics only will contribute 50 surplus. it showed that 74% of students attempted QA. Problems. 20 com m on all the thre e m agazine s will contribute 40 surplus Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. Maxima and Minima by am ar goswam i . Surlus = 80% + 75% + 60% -100% = 115% to find out m inim um value for all thre e channe ls we ne e d to accom m odate m ax im um value of surplus in two channe ls. A student taking the test has to attempt at least one section. 06:49 PM answe r is 70 k e e p 20 in inte rse ction of thre e and 50 in inte rse ction of busine ss and political se ts. 03:55 AM Hey Amar. 18 Nove m be r 2009. Problems. Maxima and Minima by Pallav Jain . 58 % 21 % 0 37 % Can not be Determined Cheers !!! Pallav Show parent | Reply totalgadha.Basics. 15 Nove m be r 2009.com/mod/forum/discuss. 60% watche s BBC and 75% watche s Star Plus. VA and DI. 18 Nove m be r 2009.W e dne sday. 19 Nove m be r 2009.W e dne sday. Maxima and Minima by Ashwin A . If the percentage of students who attempted all the three sections is found to be 71%.Thursday. Problems. 91% attempted VA and 77% attempted DI section. Problems.Basics. Problems. When the data of test takers was assimilated. Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. 01:21 AM Q ue stion :-In a surve y it was found that 80% of vie we rs watche s DD.Basics. 19 Nove m be r 2009. 02:16 AM hi pallav.Basics.Basics.Sunday. this will absorb surplus of 90 with sports m agazine m ax Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams. Wh a t a 60% b45% c15% d20% is th e m i ni m u m p er centa g e of th e v i ew er s w a tch i ng a ll th e th r ee ch a nnels ? e 10% Show parent | Reply Re: Venn Diagrams.Basics. Max value it can tak e is 100% but still we are le ft with 15% he nce this ne e ds to be put in all thre e channe ls.