A Refutation to

A Friendly Discussion
(A Booklet Distributed by the Mormon Church)

Rev. 14:6, 7: “And I saw another angel flying in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel . . . . . . Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to Him; for the hour of His judgment is come: and WORSHIP HIM THAT MADE HEAVEN AND EARTH, AND THE SEA, AND THE FOUNTAINS OF WATERS .
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The message conveyed in this booklet is a written answer to a pamphlet sent out by the Mormon church entitled, "A Friendly Discussion." In it the Mormons endeavor to explain their doctrine by the Bible. And those who are not familiar with the subjects cannot easily detect that they wrest the scriptures. The subject of the discussion is that God is merely an exalted man and has a body of flesh and bone, and that to simply know this, is life eternal. They further declare that salvation comes in the act of water baptism, providing, however, it is administered by them. They claim they have the sole right to present the gospel. The time has come for a refutation of their doctrine, and we trust that all will realize the necessity of sending out the truth of God's Holy Word. "For ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free."


4 . will make plain the way of salvation. and a Church with Apostles and Prophets? As a humble servant of the Lord I come to you with a message that this Gospel has been restored and the Church of Christ is again established in the earth. and others. The accompanying tract.Dear Friend. which will follow. I shall call again in a few days. Are you looking for more truth for the Gospel of Jesus Christ in its primitive purity and power.

Those who are not acquainted with the scriptures are easily led to believe that by accepting Mormonism they become members of the true church. The above is a copy of a letter the Mormon elders distribute amongst the people to attract them to Mormonism. The following is an answer to this letter which was personally sent to me. Very respectfully.and shall take pleasure in explaining anything further you may desire to know concerning this message. 5 .

The Gospel everlasting cannot be taken away or restored. it is the old time religion. The power is not outward ceremonies or manifestations. In Its Primitive Purity and Power? The Gospel of Christ always has been. and the hearing by the Word of God. Faith cometh by the hearing. became degenerate up until the time of Joseph Smith. Friends. The Word of God is the bread of Life and the living water for the soul. and will stand through all the Ages. Christ within the hope of glory. and the world as a whole. and only the names of the twelve Apostles needed. hence without the Word of God there is no salvation for the soul. There is no greater truth than the Word of God. have a form of Godliness. but my words shall not pass away. and in them the names of the twelve Apostles of the Lamb ." (not of Joseph Smith). or as many as Joseph Smith ordained." I have sought Him and found Him. Christ Jesus.) A Church With Apostles and Prophets? The Church of God is built on Apostles and Prophets. nothing more. 13:5. which brings about the change of heart. It is the Gospel of the Bible which Paul preached. It does not matter how many times the Bible has been translated. The twelve Apostles of the Lamb have never failed. John saw the New Jerusalem. God takes care of His word. they were true unto death. for it is built on the Rock. "Heaven and earth shall pass away. the more light we receive. but deny the power thereof." Job 23:12. Jesus Christ being the chief corner stone. is.Are You Seeking for More Truth? What is truth? Jesus said: "I AM the way. the truth was taken away from the earth. and always will be pure. The Church of God was established when the foundation was laid. 21:14. the truth and the life. Rev. but works inwardly. Job says. The Church of Christ Again Established in the Earth? Joseph Smith claims that after the death of Christ and His disciples. There is only one true church. Those who deny the blood of Christ for the remission of their personal sin. the earth will become a ball of fire." The Gospel of Jesus Christ? The Gospel of Jesus Christ is not the Gospel of Joseph Smith. nothing less. 6 . "And the wall of the city had twelve foundations. when the Gospel was again restored and established. {2 Tim. as they say. and the more we study it." This foundation is immovable. when the truth shall be taken away from this earth. He said. not twelve times twelve. it is everlasting. "'There were twelve foundations. "I have esteemed the words of His mouth more than my necessary food.

which is in Christ Jesus. P. I have studied all the tracts you sent me. and may we some day all come to the unity of the faith. of the Kingdom of God on earth. is because he looked for it outside the Bible.The reason Joseph Smith could not see the true church. 1 Cor. God will reveal it to you. which is Jesus Christ. I. "Other foundation can no man lay than that is laid. if you will prayerfully study with a hungry heart to know the truth. "The natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them. ___________________________________ _ 7 ." On Christ the solid Rock I stand All other ground is sinking sand. the Word of God. May God bless you and yours. 3:11. "A FRIENDLY DISCUSSION. The Bible says. because they are spiritually discerned". also. I Cor. He looked for a literal kingdom. and we are convinced that you will find it. You said you would be glad to hear from me again. 2:14. and many more. the plan of salvation is only contained in the BIBLE. would send you an open answer. — We are also giving you an answer to the little booklet you sent me. I admire your sincerity and I know you mean well. S. I thought in as much as your letter was an open letter to all outside your church." Yours truly. Accompanying Tracts to Make Plain the Way of Salvation? Friend.

the Mormons were conducting a house to house canvas. "And yet. "Why. and the clergy—no offense intended——are more addicted to moneygetting than soul—saving. . I will. live up to their profession. wisdom and goodness. as you state.} "Well." “If you will permit me to ask a few questions during your conversation with Mr. "this topic interests me. Those who accept the creeds which are supposed to base their tenets upon the Bible. "Then. endeavor to throw some light upon the subject. provided. we must know both sides of the story. "I am sure it will be a pleasure to me to have you join in our conversation. that should we differ upon any point it will be in a friendly manner. I belong to no church at all.” "I cannot imagine why this should be the case. gentlemen." The entire party expressed approval of the proposed interchange of opinions. and I do not doubt that Mr. but for the benefit of those who have not.” In order to pronounce righteous judgment. of infinite power." (We will discuss this later on. the maker and preserver of all things visible and 8 . A Clergyman named Fitzallen. "and the strange part of it is." said Fitzallen "what particular part of the Christian faith appears to you as being the most difficult to understand?" "I confess there are many. during which they freely distributed this little booklet called "A Friendly Discussion. a home for a limited number of guests. Mr. However. A Physician named Slocum. and the peculiar explanations of those who make religious teaching their calling. Durant. and while I and my opinions are unknown to you all. discussed and disposed of. I assure you. . The booklet is written in the form of a conversational discussion." "Not so with me." said the lawyer. I often find myself opposed by ministers. A few years ago. Brown and the other gentleman feel the same way. however." .” "I partially concur with you. At this time another visitor appears. In this booklet they claim that the Father and the Son have a body of flesh and bone. "if you are." said the clergyman. a true believer in Christ and have a witness of Him. a Mormon.A Refutation To "A Friendly Discussion" (A booklet sent out by the Mormon Church} I beg the reader to give a few minutes of their valuable time to study this little booklet with me. and yet." "Certainly. The house has three guests at this time: A Lawyer named Brown. parts or passions." the other replied. (Page 2). Brown. everlasting." No doubt many have read it. how is this!" said the Minister. and lay claim to a testimony of the truth of the Gospel of Christ from a divine source. until the Minister Fitzallen (representing the church). {the Mormon)."I thought nearly everybody in this country must be orthodox to some extent at least. . and remember the story it contains. let us commence with one of the principles of your belief.) "One subject after another was token of. "I am a believer in religion. or at least laid aside to give way to some other. (Mr. "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. do not." said Durant. "America is thoroughly Christianized. we will give portions of it verbatim. I will refer to some of the literature of the Church of England. Brown. without body. is life eternal. which the Mormons distribute to draw people into their belief. it appears to me. (the lawyer) I may be able to take a general part in the discussion. The Bible says in Hosea 4:6. and that to simply know this. It speaks of a town called Westminster. The first article of religion contained in the Church of England prayer book is: "There is but one living and true God. if agreeable to you. . that my views are the result of investigation." said Fitzallen (the minister). spoke up and said .

" "I differ from you. Jesus Himself declares that He and His Father are One.* Small print is the verbatim word of their story. "Our Saviour meant just what He said when He declared that He and His Father were one. not as I will." (Mormon) "By such admission you have separated one of the three from Jesus. 'O. (the Mormon). "but is it not more reasonable for us to believe that He meant that He and His Father are united in all things as one person ?—not that they are actually one and the same identity ?" "Certainly not." said the stranger. In fact. and by your argument it must have been His wish for those disciples to lose their separate and distinct identities. and in the unity of this Godhead there are three persons of one substance. iii:16." "Well. 'He was in the express image of His (Father's) person. {Acts vii:55. for in the beginning you declared that the three were one.) "Now. The Bible says He is past finding out.' let us do as Isaiah commands. parts nor passions.) Is this not true?" "Excuse me. 'This is My beloved Son. So far as the Bible is concerned. without body." said the Westerner. the Holy Ghost. In order to do this. ‘So far as the Bible is concerned. (Matt. (Mr. what was it that lighted on Him in the form of a dove?" (Matt. who had just been raised from the water. being one person. What fault have you to find with it?" "I cannot form a conception of a God who has neither body. parts or passions." (Reasonable." "Exactly! And whose voice was it that spoke from the heavens. and does not the idea strike you very forcibly that the voice from heaven belonged to a." said the preacher. While being stoned to death. and this being the case. "for He also asked His Father to make His disciples one. let us see if we can separate the other two. I refer you to the account of the martyrdom of Stephen. Mr. in whom I am well pleased"?" asked the Mormon. and that Jesus was standing on the right hand of God. I must confess. Brown." "Stranger. Son and Holy Ghost are one person. appears reasonable. invisible. power and eternity— the Father. mind you. My Father." "You have certainly quoted correctly from the prayer book. the Mormon). if it be possible let this cup pass from me: nevertheless. "your view of the case.' (Matt.) "Let me ask." said the Reverend. I fail to see anything wrong with that. He said. but as Thou wilt. as you will see by reference to John xvii:20 and 21. no. then. Brown. Son and the Holy Ghost. "for as Paul says. and I will soon convince you that the Bible plainly sets forth the fact that the Father and the Son are One. we will examine the account of His baptism. hath seen the Father"?" (John xiv:9) "Yes." said Mr. Durant.] Would it not be impossible for a person to stand on the right hand of himself? In further proof that Jesus is a separate person from the Father.’ (Heb. there was Jesus. iii:17. and now than we have one of the three separated from the others. to whom was our saviour praying? Was He asking a favor of Himself?" "Oh. but God is higher than reason. (John 1::30. which descended from above and rested upon Him in the form of a dove.) "We are told it was the Spirit of God. xxxvi:39. even as He and the Father were one. making two personages. using your own language. "did not Jesus say. 1:3). I fail to see from what part of that book you derive such a conclusion. ‘from to the law and the testimony (Isaiah viii:20). third person?" 9 . He was then praying to the Holy Spirit. {the Mormon). On coming up out of the water. your belief is that the Father. When Jesus went out to pray. that’s right." said Durant.) Now then. Jesus might well give them to understand that when they had seen one they had seen the other.’ According to this. he looked up to heaven and saw the glory of God. 'He that hath seen Me.

that they might know thee. nor is anything said of Christ’s atonement for sin on Calvary. which the reader will observe from the procedure. (We will refer to this subject later. to believe that God has a body of flesh and bones. we are here in America. 3:17. I don’t care what Joseph Smith says either. or the New Birth through which we become partakers of His divine nature. this booklet sent out by the Mormon leaders is simply an imaginary story to influence the people into believing in a men God who can be comprehended with the human intellect. while the Bible says these are what we must understand if we desire eternal life. then the Holy Ghost must have a body of flesh and bones also." Think of it. and is life eternal. "This is my Beloved Son in whom I am well pleased” Matt. according to Mr. (Page 5) The churchman {the minister} was getting heated: "There are many things which we are not expected to understand.) The Story Proceeds. is to know the character and being of God. You say we are not expected to understand these things. it should be our first duty to had out the character and being of God. my Young friends. etc. We must know who he is." by which they mean a God of flesh and bone. and. when a voice was heard from heaven saying. I would advise you to drop such foolish ideas. reader. "did you say 'foolish ideas'? Why. reader." Is this proof that the Father and Son both have bodies of flesh and bone exactly as man has? Then they give as proof the record of Jesus when He was baptized." "Excuse me. saying that Christ prayed for His disciples. the only true God. they only heard His voice. This plainly shows what little knowledge they really have of God and the plan of salvation. what he looks like. For I am sure that none of the disciples was a mere ghost. The topic in discussion is "A BODY GOD. Nothing is mentioned that man must examine himself and know that he is lost without Christ. my dear sir. Durant (the Mormon}. and the Son of man standing at the right hand of God. we must have the Spirit of God. It is what the Bible teaches that counts. For example. might be one as they were one. Acts 7:56. 1 . If this is proof that God has a body as man. we are told in the Bible that 'This is life eternal. I don't care what the Church of England teaches. Does this prove that the Father has a body of flesh and bones? Did they see the Father? No." said the Mormon. they try to prove this by our Bible. It also says we can understand the things of man by the spirit of man.Reader—the above copy is a synopsis of the first part of the story. and Jesus Christ. whom thou hast sent’. otherwise He could not be included in the trinity. They try to substantiate this theory by the account of Stephen being stoned. Remember." (John 17:3) Therefore. but to comprehend the things of God. "I see the heavens opened. that those twelve (who all had their separate bodies).

(verses 42. 1:3). It is safe to say that one who teaches such a doctrine is as blind as a bat. v. see not. He always appeared suddenly. that would not give me the knowledge of God. if He has no body. and a bat can see at night. (Luke 24:39. not dependent on time or space. to really know Him. which can pass through a door or wall as Jesus did when he appeared in the room and stood in their midst. on the right hand of God. and called upon His disciples to satisfy themselves on this point by touching Him. of still another class of people. 43). "A chicken can see in the day. (Acts 7:55. as Stephen says. there can be no bone.) "You say God has no body: did our Saviour have one? If so. for I have just proven by the words of Paul. the doors being shut. "Flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God. Durant. don’t you? Yet I cannot say that I knew the man. (Page 5) The Mormons claim to have still greater proof that God has a body of flesh and bone. by the seed of the Word of God. in Luke 24:15. that Christ was in the express image of His person. according to the Mormons.I truly believe that George Washington had a body of flesh and bones. if I had seen God in a vision. 13 :13. 1. as recorded in John 20:19. As in the scripture where the appearing of Christ is mentioned after His resurrection. and hearing. then His Father had one. and they knew Him." Is he a liar? Truly nothing is said of bone. to know His character. Our bodies will be as Christ’s. for it is unreasonable. (the Mormon.5:50. "They seeing. His marvelous love. We cannot know the character of God through an outward description of Him. but it is evident where there can be no flesh. Jesus appeared In the midst of His disciples after His resurrection with a body of flesh and bones.) Then He called for something to eat. "And their eyes were opened. Their state is most pitiful." . and receive the witness by the Holy Spirit that our sins are blotted out through the blood of Christ. and with this tangible body He ascended into heaven and stood. I Cor. but an unregenerated man can see neither day nor night. however. and He did eat." The Bible speaks.' says He. and went with them. Matt. concerning the two on their way to Emmaus.. (Heb. neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. I could not maintain that I knew him. It has been said. which follows verbatim. 'a spirit hath not flesh and bones as ye see me have. 'for. is to become one of the family through the New Birth. (as Joseph Smith claims he did). Hence. but not at night. The only way to know God. The Story Proceeds. talking to the minister.. In order to know a person we must come in personal contact with him. 31. we have to deal with him. Mr. what became of the one He took away with Him?" Reader: The Apostle Paul says. If there will be anything in heaven which will be called flesh and bone. (I suppose. neither do they understand? They only see with their natural eye. "And it came to pass while they communed together and reasoned Jesus. For to really know his character I would have to associate with him. nothing is said that they saw Him coming. this verse would be considered mistranslated. Even if I had seen George Washington. but not in the daytime. and He vanished out of their sight. drew near. they hear not. For example. it will be the same substance as that of the body of Christ.) 1 . Himself.) Now.

that which thou sowest is not quickened. there am I in the midst of them. the kind of body all will receive who have received His resurrection life through the New Birth. the Son of God." We can readily observe that the disciples knew that Christ had appeared to them. 43. "And many other signs truly did Jesus. & Cov. and there is a spiritual body. Paul makes this very plain in I Cor. and he did eat'!" I confess such things we cannot understand with the carnal mind. and power to take it again. 31. "But the hour cometh. when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth. He had power also to transfigure Himself while in their midst to prove to them that He was the same Christ who had been with them in the flesh. except it die: 42. which are not written in this book. as it is clearly stated in the following verses of the same chapter. changed the food and took out the corruption. There is a natural body. and was present in one place at a time. if Christ after His resurrection had a body of flesh and bone as the Mormons say. 130:22: "The Father has a body of flesh and bones as tangible as man’s. I presume Jesus performed a miracle. Yet it is a Body. He declares in John 10:18 that He has power to lay down His life. how He could come into the room and appear unto His disciples when the doors were shut.35. and even go so far as to ask for something to eat. and the Son also. it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness. 18:20. could partake of corruptible food. But you may say. But it is just as impossible for us to understand. 15:34. it is raised in power: 44. "How are the dead raised up? And with what body do they come?" 36. "How about Jesus calling forth His disciples to touch His body. in the presence of His disciples. But these are written that ye might believe that Jesus (had a body of flesh and bones? NO!) is the Christ. it is raised a spiritual body. John 4:23. 1 . and to feed five thousand people with two fishes and five loaves of bread. . It is sown in corruption. And it is even more impossible to understand how Christ. It is sown in dishonour. He is all powerful. Thou fool. He told the woman at the well. When Jesus was on earth in the form of a man He walked as a man. not for the purpose of showing them He had a body of flesh and bones. It is sown a natural body. So also is the resurrection of the dead. and now is." What a strange God Joseph Smith represents. I firmly believe after we are resurrected we will have a body. but to manifest Himself in such a way that they might know He was the same Christ who had walked with them on the shores of Galilee. that believing ye might have life through His name. incorruptible body. incorruptible. "For where two or three are gathered together in My name." Also in Matt." Christ went into heaven with a glorified body. it is raised in incorruption. John 20:30. as Christ has. having a resurrected. This was probably just another miracle which Christ performed. "But some man will say.” A Spiritual Body is Not a Natural Body. having to depend on His two legs to carry Him about. who is no more capable than man.Joseph Smith says in his revelations Doc. He had power to change water into wine.

(Rev. according to St. neither thirst any more. xii:8) to speak with Moses mouth to mouth.I also believe we will eat and drink after the resurrection. Durant: "But. such as bread and fish. for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me’. I believe I would have been a Christian . I have heard more that appears reasonable from you. and I must also admit that if my early teaching on religious matters had been of this character. "You know that God is a spirit. for I have yet more to say in regard to what you call nonsense. being the 39th verse. I seem to be out of the contest. and from the way you express yourself regarding the personality of God. The Psalm. as a Christian. I will wish you all good evening. and that the Creator is a God after whose likeness we are made. l will endeavor to be more careful during the rest of the conversation? "We will resume the discussion at another time. 17: "They shall hunger no more. Brown in your hands. I would like very much to hear your views regarding other differences. studied the record: in fact. "things have taken a very peculiar turn. body and spirit? So says the Bible. "I did not mean to offend you." "I beg your pardon. And he also saw His back parts.the things which we should seek for information upon: for lack of information by the ministers upon these points is. and reads as follows: ‘Search the Scriptures. 1:14. (Num. I must insist that it is Bible nonsense. You say God is a spirit: does that prove He has no body? We are also told we must worship Him in spirit. It is found in the fifth chapter of the Gospel. if it be such. regarding religion. at a very early age my parents required me to commit and remember a very important verse in that good old Book. xxxiii:11). Mr." "Well. the cause of many persons being in Mr. "I had no idea when I commenced this conversation with Mr. We are told in the fifth chapter of Deuteronomy that He has a. (Gen." Mr. consequently. ." said Mr. although. Are these not parts and passions? It would appear that all who believe in the Scriptures must conclude that they are parts and passions. Man was crested in the image of God. He promised. 27.1:26. as one man talks with another. 7:16." Churchman: "If your assertion be correct. and Isaiah (xxx:27). v.) "This is nonsense.) "Well. so if you will excuse me. (Page 5." Mr." replied the minister. but spiritual food. perhaps it would he better for me to withdraw and leave Mr. says He has lips and tongue. must have parts. {cxxxix:16). as John. Brown that I was to find such an antagonist in yourself.” said Durant. not natural food. One would naturally come to the conclusion that you had made the Bible a study. Brown’s frame of mind today." (Exit the minister. I am somewhat familiar with the doctrines of different Christian societies. and is a jealous God. Were you made in the image of God. Have you also a body? Yes. Do you disagree with these ministers very much on other principles?" 1 . to a great extent. Durant: "I have."' The Story Proceeds. ‘no prophecy of the Scripture is of any private interpretation (II Peter 1:20) and these are . Peter tells us that.} Then God has a body and. Durant. . Durant: "Pray listen a while longer." said the churchman. hair and eyes. Brown. the revelator." Churchman: "That is proper: but I must again warn you against plunging into mysteries which we cannot understand. writes in Rev. John describes His head. 17 For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them. tells us He has eyes. (Ex. and I think we would better not delve too deeply into matters which we are not permitted to comprehend? Mr. Tonight I only intended remaining a short time. than ever before in my life. having an important engagement. hand and arm.) And as for passions. John. Moses talked with Him face to face. and shall lead them into living fountains of water. Am I to understand from this that we must worship Him without a body? Have you a spirit'? Yes. we are told in the Bible that He exercises love.

or passions. 3:10. They always say. 28:19. 11. 1:15). God said to Abraham: "Thy seed shall 1 . Jno. feel. but the spirit. that he may be prepared to enter the paradise of God. and fallen man is exhorted to be renewed in the spirit. I Tim. "God is A SPIRlT." etc. etc. referring to His spiritual. vital principle. is the body the man." (not spirit). John 6:63. and the laying on of hands for the Holy Ghost." Lippincott’s Dictionary meaning of "Spirit" is. They will propagate forever worlds without end. It is safe to say the God that the Mormons represent is but an imaginary God. but He makes Himself known to man as Father. “Breath. 24. Son and Holy Ghost. the flesh profiteth nothing. how can the Father have an offspring?" Sexual intercourse is the salvation of the Mormons. repentance. Col. (Eph. God is past finding out. There is but one God. we will make a few more re-marks on their conversation about God having parts and passions. three separate personalities." Who then has eyes. sexualism is the hub of the wheel. the Mormon leaders scoff at us and say that we have a God who is everywhere and nowhere in particular. faith. or the spirit which lives in the body'! Can the body hear. 10:18. (maketh alive}. "It is the spirit that quickeneth. or see without the spirit? NO! Jesus says. water baptism. If there are no females in heaven. {Gen. Before we discuss these things. mind. God is a spiritual being and has all the faculties of man. He represents a God who can be understood by reason. 3:16. II Cor. Bible Index—"God created man in His own image. My inquiry is. (Bible Dictionary. It will be there eternal joy. 12:29. for God is infinite and man finite. Mark 1:10. 1:27}. this is simply the theory of Joseph Smith. This mystery of the trinity or Triune. imperceptible to the corporeal senses. feet. ears.Reader.) The spirit is the immortal part of man. intellectual and moral likeness. 2:5. God Cannot Be Comprehended by Human Intellect The Bible does not tell us that the Father has a body of flesh and bones. "Have you ever seen a son without a father. hatred and love. but in a greater and divine capacity. Matt. and they that worship Him must worship Him in spirit and in truth." Because we believe the Bible. John 4:24. In Mormonism. The story now goes into detail about their mode of salvation. 14:16. hands. From the above we may learn that God is past finding out ." and "If the Son has a body is it not to be understood that the Father must have a body also. and image of his creator. this is all about the body of God. 4:23. The Bible tells us. NOT THE GOD OF THE BIBLE. "an intelligent being. 13:14. just a mass of something having no parts. Col.

(Jas. which contained many sermons by Brigham Young and Orson Hyde." they say. and the incorruptible seed. concerning Christ having a body of flesh and bone. but Christ’s body. 1 Cor. The grave could not contain Him. that Christ did not die. or the seed of God." When a soul is saved by the word. a man. which is in the loins of men. and RECEIVE WITH MEEKNESS THE ENGRAFTED WORD. "The seed is the word of God. 1:21). If I had known this abominable doctrine when I was in Holland. that was oppressed and suffered in the flesh. But just before we left the Mormon church. This is true. as the Christian Scientists do. a body that could be hurt and wearied. a body that was subject to death. 3:28: "There is neither Jew nor Greek. "Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness. It is true it did not see corruption. I investigated to see if these really were teachings of the church. The Mormons have a wrong conception of God and the Bible. that hungered and thirsted for natural food. there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. which liveth and abideth forever. It was not that same weak body that hung on the tree. He arose in immortality. For although Christ was truly God. 15:3: "Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures. 1 Peter 1:23: "Being born again. but of incorruptible. Gal. it is born of God. 1 . I am positive they could never have converted me to Mormonism. They told me I could not depend on everything I heard. if He had not been subject to death. Vol II. and the Church of Christ is the Bride. for now I can speak from experience. no white slavery. that so many stories were told about Mormonism that were not true. It becomes a child of God. Therein 1 saw in black and white that they teach that Jesus was a polygamist and had children in the flesh. there is neither bond nor free. It speaks in the Bible of two kinds of seed.") We do not believe. it tells (in Acts 2:31).be as the stars of the heaven and the sands of the sea." But death could not hold Him. I should like to add this. "if men do not multiply after death? To multiply is the greatest command. The corruptible. after His resurrection was spiritually glorified. Now. where only men are privileged to attend. for there is no corruption there." In heaven there is no sex. Christ’s lifeless body was laid in the tomb. no cesspools. He was also truly man. an old Mormon sister gave me a book of Journal of Discourses. not of corruptible seed. Mortal: (Dictionary meaning is: "Subject to death. Jesus said. a human being. by the word of God." The Apostle James says. The reason these things are not generally known is because they are not preached from the platform. WHICH IS ABLE TO SAVE YOUR SOULS. But I am glad after all that I have been one. They are taught in the priesthood meetings. in Luke 8:11." I heard about these doctrines while I was yet a Mormon. or human seed. Christ would not have been verily man." Christ is the only Bridegroom. that Christ’s FLESH did not see corruption. even though it was mortal." How can this prophecy be fulfilled. henceforth never more to die.

The Bible speaks of God’s eyes. and one mediator between God and men. because I have been born of Him. and hands and feet. neither can He hear in secret." he replied. and the earth is My Footstool. There they say that Christ died for the righteous and the unrighteous. fallen sinner out of the miry clay. "Thus saith the Lord. "I don’t believe what you said. how much more can God. "If men with their natural eyes can see the stars millions of miles distant. They pray for the sick. hear our prayers the moment we utter them. voice. "'That is what the Bible says." "Exactly. for they say that through Christ’s death all receive immortality. 2:15. by faith and prayer we reach the throne of grace. "A Friendly Discussion. and ears." If it is possible for man’s voice to be broadcasted over the radio so that thousands who tune in can hear at the same moment regardless of space. born again. see everywhere.” "Well." (I believe the Bible. the Heaven is My Throne. But. which they claim is redemption. etc. It is also stated in Isa." After the services a young man. countenance and mouth in Rev." she said. 15:3. Nothing is said about His infinite power. with His divine eyes.) According to this little booklet. I Tim." His arm is so long that it can reach and lift a poor. the fact that Christ has opened the grave and brought about the 1 . hands. a Mormon. 1:14-17. Nothing of Salvation Through the Blood of Christ. but not salvation. for if God cannot see in secret. that the eyes of the Lord are in every place. 66:1." to know that God has eyes. confronted her saying. feet. beholding the evil and the good." We wonder to whom the Mormons really pray. Thank God we do not have to depend on any invisible or visible spirit. and that He has His millions of serving angels. and so small that He can dwell in your heart. hair. I have the spirit of God in my heart. 4:13: "Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in His sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the EYES of Him with whom we have to do. Through Christ we are reconciled to God. "but I have not a God of flesh and bone in my heart." She said.. and is knowing the character of God. "then you believe in a God who is so large that He is everywhere. head. The story proceeds on page 8. I suppose. according to the scriptures."—From Christ’s Ambassador Herald. how much more can God. who keep Him in constant touch with the happenings of this universe. or His marvelous love for sinners. * * * * * One evening my daughter spoke on the text found in Prov. the man Christ Jesus. "The eyes of the Lord are in every place. For they teach that God lives with His wife or wives on the highest planet called Kolob. and that thereby the sin of Adam is completely done away. The Bible tells us in Heb. all we have to do is to tune in. is life eternal. to whom do they pray? To their priesthood or some unseen spirit who passes the message on until it reaches the heavenly harbor. who is almighty. "For there is one God.

they will die the SECOND DEATH. and I never want to. Whitney is a common sense man."—Brigham Young. and the L1fe. but the God that created man in His own image." Yes. You believe Adam was made of the dust of this earth. on such the second death hath no power.resurrection. Everyone who goes through their temple knows that in their illustrated services they explain that Adam and Eve came from another planet. He would not have known anything. out of the same kind of material from which bricks are formed: that with this matter God made the pattern a man. Rev. A God with an eight to twelve ounce brain . to my understanding." From the above we learn there is more than one death to conquer. 20 :6. whom He has sent. The Story Proceeds. "The Lord God (who) 1 . though it is supposed that it is written in the Bible. in that state of supposed perfection. 18. they again and again remind us that God has a body like man. "The Way. for they deny that God has created Adam and Eve. J. Those who do not receive the resurrected Christ in their heart. "Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection. as human theology asserts. just as the average man. but it is not. we observe Mr. Orson F. P. and left it there. You can write that information to the States. We will give an abstract from a booklet entitled. will bring a greater condemnation upon the ungodly . We will now endeavor to show by their own doctrine how they contradict themselves. "Some of you may doubt the truth of what I now say. and to have faith in that God and in Jesus Christ. Vol. as divine revelation affirms. and that the Bible states we are created in His image. and breathed into it the breath of life. and science confirms the decree. What is the reason I do not? Because I have come to understanding. This I do not believe. and he believes in a common sense God. How dare they say that they believe in the God who created man in His own image while in reality they deny the God spoken of in Genesis 2:7. the Truth. Mormonism is wholly a brain religion. earth and the encircling heavens were created — not out of nothing. and shall reign with Him a thousand years. "Preliminary to the fall. "Listen. 2. and argue that the Lord could teach him. if you please—that I have publicly declared that I do not believe that portion of the Bible as the Christian world do. and banished from my mind all the baby stories my mother taught me when I was a child. I never did. "The first condition is this: To believe there is a God (not the kind mentioned in the English prayer-book)." written by Mr. This is a mistake. he would have been an adobe to this day. "Nothing remains. Ye Latter Day Saints! Supposing that Adam was formed actually out of clay. of D. but they shall be priests of God and of Christ. Whitney. The Lord could not have taught him in any other way than in the way in which He did teach him. nothing: common sense so declares. Page 9. that which they cannot understand is considered faulty translation. but out of previously existing materials. Who are the ungodly? Those who do not accept Jesus Christ as their personal Saviour." The reader may have noticed.

the Supreme Being. it was by faith that kingdoms were subdued. AND NOT MAN.) This is the kind of faith by which the worlds were framed. "I AM GOD. And the lack of this faith and the absence of prayer and fasting caused even the Apostles to fall on one occasion in casting-out devils. nor from any other record of God's dealings with man. they quote all the above verses from the Bible to prove to you that they also believe in faith.” True enough. "A carpenter can make a table. But whether they believe the Bible or not. "Earth and the encircling heavens were created—not out of nothing. P. We worship the God the angel proclaims in Revelation 14:7." it is evident that Mr. does not know the actual meaning of the word "Create. (James ii: l4-17.formed man out of the dust of the ground. that without faith it is impossible to please God. however.' (Rom." continued Durant. The more we search into eternal truth. Whitney made. to make. F. for it is the power of God unto salvation. righteousness was wrought: promises were obtained. Even the dictionary makes this plain. 9. How natural that the principle of faith should be the primary one of our salvation! With what principle are we more familiar? Faith is the first great principle governing all things: but great as it is. Whitney. (Rom." This is true. concerning the statement Mr." Hosea 11:9. Mormonism is based on the same principle as Evolution. "Fear God and give glory to Him. to form.” Now. but God says. Mr." A Creator makes his own material. x:17). "the kind of faith required is that which will enable a man. for it denies the Word of God. (Creator) means. (Heb. Joseph. xi:32·-38. not mainly from the Bible. with all his wisdom. O. (Heb. and the sea and the fountains of waters. the kind of religion Mr. to produce. and worship Him that made heaven and earth. the Prophet. (Matt. or a cupboard out of a tree. 20.) This faith comes by hearing the word of God. and man became a living soul. does not make truth. by which the wells of Jericho fell. and breathed into his nostrils me breath of life. who bestows existence. One who creates. Yet they say that the faith those great Bible characters had. for the hour of His Judgment is come. xi: 16. the more we discover that God works upon natural principle. 1 . ‘I am not ashamed of the Gospel of Christ. It came by direct revelation from Jesus Christ to His servant. To make a table out of a tree is not creating the table. Whitney. The Story Proceeds. untruth. emphatically deny what the angel preached. All the requirements which He makes of us are very plain and simple. it is dead without works. for the devils in purgatory are that far advanced. but no man can make something out of nothing.) We must not expect salvation by simply having faith that Jesus is the Christ. saying with a loud voice. then. reader. to bring into being." Joseph Smith declared that he received this gospel from the angel. then. i: 16. and the mouths of lions were closed. He calls things into existence that are not. (Create)——To cause to exist. is the first grand stepping-stone to that celestial pathway leading towards salvation. And it is more true that the revelation of Joseph Smith is not divine. which also denies the First book of Genesis. They.” You see. xvii:14. "Well. Faith being the topic of discussion. declaring man evolved. under all circumstances to say.) Faith. The Mormons say. Whitney represents is not found in the Bible. page 16: "The Latter-Day Saints derive their knowledge of it.) No wonder.

" 1 . it is dead without works. Christ wants our heart.is only a stepping stone to that celestial pathway leading towards salvation. Joseph Smith absolutely denies a heart religion. not even knowing the difference between brain faith and saving faith. "It seems to me you surround the doctrine of baptism with more safeguards than anyone else of whom I have ever heard. (Salvation in the act of water baptism. One can clearly observe from their own assertion.) Mr. 12. which we can observe from the following: Doc. "provided. This alone is sufficient proof that they have not the slightest conception of an inward salvation. It is a crime to send out such literature into the world. "Certainly. For they claim that salvation comes only in the act of water baptism. that the Father and the Son dwell in a man's heart. and not mainly from the Bible. say they believe. (I should say they do. saying). Mormonism is just an outward application of religion. honest faith and sincere repentance go before it. which they positively have not. . Durant: '"There should be only one true and perfect plan as found in the days of Christ. that they exalt themselves above everything in heaven or earth that is called God. . Sec. The Christian world as a whole. 2:13. we go beyond God. They think they have that." said the Mormon. 130:3. and is false. They claim to receive their knowledge by divine revelation of Joseph Smith.) P. and hewed them out cisterns. and great as it is. 8: Gov. and the idea. and not on the blood of Christ. the heart has nothing to do with it. and the ordinance is administered in the proper way by one endowed with divine authority: otherwise I believe it is of no avail whatever. because they lean on it for salvation . but not before we accept Christ as the Saviour of our soul can we say we believe. and the devil truly leads us a merry chase. (John iv:23) "'The appearing of the Father and the Son in that verse. “For my people have committed two evils. that can hold no water. Indeed God said in Jer. broken cisterns. the fountain of living waters. however. The Story proceeds." If we go beyond the Word of God. These are men who call themselves Apostles of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. but there is no revelation Outside of the Word of God . is a personal appearance. "And do you really believe that baptism brings remission of sin?" queried the lawyer. they have forsaken Me. If we go beyond God we belong to the devil. is an old sectarian notion." This is sufficient proof that Joseph Smith was not a new born man." (The lawyer continues. our confidence." . It is a crime to believe such doctrine.

16:17-18. and some Evangelists. They make that up themselves to win their point. it is because there is no light in them. . It is character that makes a man. and some pastors and teachers. not the name.) P. and no longer needed. there may be a doubt as to whether your minister is authorised to baptize you. and not man." replied Durant." Mr. truly this perfect plan is salvation through the blood of Jesus Christ. May I ask. and is a form without life. and that many scriptures are mistranslated. for this reason it reads THIS WORD. (Page 16. why ?" "If the words of the Bible he true. for He placed them in the church. Mr. there is only one route to heaven. but I may have another surprise for you yet. and Seventies. by the Bible. "there is no light in them. Durant doesn’t quote the rest of the verse. continually refers to the Bible as the law and the testimony. First. . they make plain. The reader. "I am pleased to learn that. and some prophets. 4:11. neither has water baptism. The Story Proceeds. It is true there is only one true and perfect plan of salvation. etc." Isaiah 8:20: "To the law and to the testimony. and will never change. "But how were they to receive the Holy Ghost?" The Mormon answered.” (Eph. who do you intend shall baptize you?" "My minister. Although there are many creeds and churches. The Bible tells us that "God gave some apostles. The entire Mormon religion is based on obedience to outward ceremonies. no doubt. and because they do not speak according to the truths of the Bible. and that it is a record of the past. the ordinance will be performed in the proper manner. I suppose.Yes." As the reader may notice. Further in the story Durant explains that they alone have a perfect organization with Apostles. reader.” “And when I am baptized. This plan has not. This is now they enslave the souls or man by their man-made authority. 2 . But to call a man an Apostle is no proof that he is one. the necessity of being baptized and promise them salvation in the act thereof. "By the laying on of hands . word." said the doctor. (Receiving the Holy Ghost by the laying on of hands. The Story Proceeds. Durant (the Mormon)." "To the law and the testimony. not through water baptism. so we will. they pronounce their own condemnation. while they hold that the Bible is not divine. Mormon authority has nothing to do with it. God does not need the help of a man to save a soul. and when they have convinced them. 'These signs shall follow them that believe’ etc. they say that baptism is of no avail unless they perform the ordinance. has noticed that the blood of Christ is not as much as mentioned for salvation. that the signs were only given in order to establish the church in the days of the apostles: but now they are dispensed with. Lawyer: "You must remember.) He knows where they are. and that is the BLOOD ROUTE. my friend. Prophets." What words? Nowhere in the Bible is it stated that only the Mormons are authorized to baptize. and denies the children of God everywhere. This unchristianizes the entire Christian world.) Lawyer: "I must admit that you have convinced me that baptism is a necessity. if they speak not according to this The law and the testimony is only contained in the Bible. Mark. 15..

(the Mormon). that the good old Book substantiated his argument. each obtained his card containing the articles of faith of his church. living word of God. the other characters are simply imaginary persons. but those who read the Quotations from the Bible. How subtle it is to publish a made-up story to introduce religious doctrine. Anyone with a little knowledge of the truth can readily detect the ignorance of such teachings. for there are many good old books."The listeners were very much surprised. 2 . [??] Thanking him for the patient explanation of his belief. The Bible absolutely does not substantiate Mr. Durant. all retired. etc." It is to be expected that Mr. Thank God. Durant’s theory of the Body God. Not merely words or a good old book. were not slow to inform Mr. It is the divine. and bidding each other good night. we have more than a story book to present. THE BIBLE. Durant the Mormon would win the argument for he is really the only one speaking in the story.

They truly will admit that we have an equal right to put forth effort to convert the Mormons to the Christian faith. who told Joseph Smith where the records of the Book of Mormon were hidden. THE BIBLE. The Mormon elders distribute these pamphlets by the thousands an effort to make proselytes out of the Christian churches.The angel in the picture called Moroni. May God help the true believers to hold high THE LIVING WORD OF GOD. standing on the temple wire holding the trumpet is supposed to be the one spoken of in Revelation 14:6. 2 .

Without the regeneration of the soul we are like white washed sepulchres which appear clean on the outside. but climbeth up some other way. the same is a thief and a robber.” In a friendly way they have told you and me that we have no God. Jesus said. l5:19.[23] Reader. this is the story they call "A Friendly Discussion. So. and some other good deeds. and their trust in the Word of God and the fundamentals of the Gospel as given in the Bible. murders. as recorded in the first part of the story. and many of them have but a meager income. adulteries. (They are the only people. I know that those who hold responsible positions in the church receive their salary every month. writes in his booklet. and in order to become saved we must appeal to them. blasphemies. And furthermore. And this is no more than right. Mr. in regards to the ministers being more addicted to money-getting than to soul-saving." Reader. but for souls. (John 10:1). In fact.” Jesus said. and The Life. "He that entereth not by the door (Christ) into the Sheepfold. let us pray that the same thing will happen to them that happened to Martin Luther while he was climbing the 28 Pilate steps in the chapel Sancta Sanctorum at Rome. It is not reformation. That the Lord will also speak to them.) They believe if man reforms outwardly and does not smoke. that he will be saved without having the blood of Christ applied to his heart. the ladder {meaning their Gospel} having been let down to man. a Mormon apostle. "The Way. thefts. drink or chew. they strip every one outside of their church of salvation by faith. "For the laborer is worthy of his hire. if a man devotes all his time to the service of the Lord. he must be provided for. and not for souls. no true church. no salvation. but reconstruction we need. O. "For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts. for there are many sincere preachers who are not out for the money. F. But we cannot place them all on one level." Salvation is of the Lord. while inwardly they are full of (corruption) dead men’s bones.) Now. fornications. paying tithes. we wish to say that the Mormon leaders do not know what it means to have their own souls saved.) But thus far we havon’t answered what they said about the ministers being money getters. much less the souls of others. and merely live by faith." Page 8. round by round." (Matt. "THE JUST SHALL LIVE BY FAITH. they tell us that our ministers are out for money. (We do not say this of the Mormons in general. and goes through a number of ceremonies such as baptism. 2 ." It is true there are ministers who draw too high a salary. laying on of hands. he can use to full effect his God-given power: he can climb from earth to Heaven. no authority to preach the Gospel. I am told that all the high men in the Mormon church draw large salaries. false witnesses. Whitney. in a friendly way. The Bible’s reply is."But now. They think they can work their way into heaven. for no one can live on air. The Truth.

ignorant youths are sent out to the foreign lands. They are fed on the Book of Mormon Doc. and now their testimony is that they believe the Gospel. They do not believe in it. fare sumptuously and travel extensively. When this principle is explained to them. etc. They generally take enough wearing apparel to last them. it is nothing more or less than a fable. such as real estate. putting up million dollar temples. Because they have made the paying of tithes part of their saving ordinance.It is piled in the church by tithes and offerings of the people. Some of the greatest pleasure resorts. factories. Why do they get so many followers'? Because they maintain to have something new for the people. with healings and speaking in tongues. They live in luxury. They are not taught to receive Christ by faith into their heart..Matt. by which they make merchandise out of the souls of men. After they become Mormons.000 tabernacles. but they know nothing of the regeneration of the soul through the blood of Christ. besides their other buildings and Academies. They may live good. The Mormon leaders indulge in all kinds of money-making devices. and a good purse of money. they deny all who claim this testimony. etc. Such unregenerated. to convert people into Mormonism. But they are in the mission field for only two or three years. & Cov. and $200. and the Pearl of Great Price. 5 Thou hypocrite. Yet. they are led astray from the word of God and Jesus Christ. the latter being of heathen origin. 7:3. completely coinciding with their doctrine of sexualism through eternity. They truly grab all the money they possibly can get. and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye. moral lives. I am sure each and every one of them take their overcoat with them. Where does this money come from? . But why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye. They promise salvation in the act of water baptism if the ordinance is performed by their authority. and even a great number who are saved in the Salvation Army are entrapped by this principle into Mormonism. and furthermore. they make it appear to the public as though they are sent out the Bible way. 2 . What right have they to sneer at the ministers? The Mormons claim that their elders are sent out without purse or script. The message they bring is that God has spoken again from heaven through the prophet Joseph Smith. I because they are not promised a regular salary. Many of the elders they send out are merely inexperienced young boys. and then return home and work for their living. and that Joseph Smith is a true prophet. such as Lagoon and Salt Air are controlled by the Mormons. they want to obey it because it is Biblical. because the Salvation Army does not preach water baptism. They preach water baptism by immersion according to the Bible. picture shows. while as a matter of fact. They are given several farewell parties and dances to raise the money to send them off. but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? v. First cast out the beam out of thine own eye. and that the true church of Christ is restored on earth with apostles and prophets. 4. life insurance.

there would not be one unclean soul in it. but if your name is not written in the book of life. Good and Bad in Every Church. call those who do not live up to the requirements of their church. not the building. in heaven. there is no bad in it. you are out of the kingdom. . The Mormon church not excluded. or any such thing.) 2 . Job said. You may be called an apostle. Nothing unclean shall enter in. "THE ocean. Truth is universal and cannot be obtained by one body of people alone.They believe that eventually all will be saved and even the devil will have some chance. not having spot. or a prophet. No mistake can be made. and allow all men the same privilege. it is not a church record. that He might present it to Himself a glorious church. Christ. nevertheless they have to admit there is good and bad in their church also. They say in their Articles of Faith. "W-H-E-R-E D-O Y-O-U G-E-T Y-O-U-R A-U-T-H-O-R-I-T-Y?” They are so sure that no man is called of God to preach but they that they feel it is their duty to tell us so. or wrinkle. 5:25-27 . 11. yet invisible church is found in all churches everywhere. and gave Himself for it. Christ’s church is pure and holy. where or what they may. "Now also behold. The church is the people. and in due time He will establish His literal kingdom on earth. For they." But generally when they hear someone preaching the Gospel according to our Bible. No. my witness is in heaven. themselves. but that it should be holy and without blemish. The Mormons claim the only true church. "Christ loved the church. Eph." If the Mormon church was THE true church. I went to hear Evangelist Gypsy Smith. The true. "We claim the privilege of worshipping Almighty God according to the dictates of our conscience. "Jack Mormons. the Head of the True Church. they confront them by saying. Christ’s invisible church consists of all true believers who are really washed by the blood. let them worship how. Remember the book of life is kept." (Job 15:19. and my record is on high." I would not be a bit surprised if this man was a Mormon. . The Evangelist told him to go home and fill the bathtub full of water and call it. because (HE ALONE) knows the heart of men. for we do not believe we are the only people. The Bible tells us Christ is the head of the true church. Any class of people who claim to alone be right and all others wrong are bound to be out of harmony with God." though they have been baptized by their authority. He stated that someone told him that their church was "THE" church. that He might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word.

than a God of flesh and bones that Joseph Smith represents. parts." They must mean by this. when we knock at the door which is Christ. who cannot hear. one Lord. 130:1. We will now refer to the statement given from the Church of England. "There is but one living and true God.. the maker and preserver of all things both visible and invisible. etc. let him ask of God that giveth to all men liberally. I would rather have the Church of England’s representation of a. of infinite power. This is unbiblical. a God who is as tangible as a man. All that Joseph Smith needed of the Bible was ONE verse.Jesus said to His disciples. and has to depend on his two legs to move. wisdom and goodness. as any human being. The Mormon doctrine states that they everlastingly will propagate and bring forth children as they do here. 1:5.} "When the Saviour shall appear. Their words shall stand. There is only one door. which they shall call Saviour. and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming. and it shall be given him. Therefore. and cannot be present in our places of worship. Jas. see. spiritual God who has infinite power. "If any of you lack wisdom. whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of His mouth. we shall see Him as He is. that the spirits are subject unto you." When are our names written in heaven? When we apply for mercy. no visible body or passions like man. 2 Thess: 2:8. but rather rejoice because your names are written in heaven. "And then shall that Wicked be revealed. will be the man of sin. the Son of Perdition. there is neither MALE nor FEMALE: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus." I am convinced that that man. and while they will be worshipping him and paying homage to him. for there is no sex in heaven. believing that he is God. there is neither bond nor free. one faith. We shall see that He is a man like ourselves. The Church of England. concerning the character of God. but known to God." 2 . the Anti-Christ. & Cov. or passions. which is by way of Calvary. and upbraideth not. Joseph Smith said in one of his revelations: (Doe. one baptism." Joseph Smith Needed Only One Verse of the Bible. In Mormonism men become their OWN God and their OWN Saviour. everlasting. 3:28. "There is neither Jew nor Greek. without body. save or create. the Creator of all things visible and invisible. one route. Gal. "Notwithstanding in this rejoice not. many souls are saved through the entire world unknown to man. (Luke 10:20). and not those of the Bible." Now. the Lord will suddenly descend from heaven in a cloud.

meaning the church. which he (Joseph Smith). he says the heavens will shake for their good. it says to heed unto all his words. there must never have been truth. an apostle of Jesus Christ. Joseph Smith speaks as though God were speaking." Notice. Revelation to Joseph Smith. He alone was right.. and to build it up unto the most holy faith. given at Fayette. and accept his word as from the mouth of God. for you may notice not a single word is mentioned that the blessed Word of God. Jun. 4. They can make scriptures now themselves. & Cov. thou shalt give heed unto all his words and commandments. yea. but denied the power thereof. "Behold. walking in all holiness before me. they now should come to him and accept his word. an elder of the church through the will of God." Joseph Smith claims that after the death of Jesus Christ and His apostles. Doc. (which Joseph Smith claimed he did). the truth was taken away from the earth until his time. and the grace of your Lord. but to Joseph Smith. shall give unto them. and cause the heavens to shake for your good. v. Jesus Christ. 2l:5-66: "For his word ye shall receive. for Joseph Smith is appointed to lay the foundation of the only true church of Jesus Christ. Sec. and told his followers. 21:1-2. the Father. 1830. Here is where they change the law and the testimony . New York. and in it thou shalt be called a seer. Men are not told to go directly to God for wisdom. and the Lord God will disperse the powers of darkness from I before you. as if from mine own mouth. 1830. 2 . and His name's glory." Think of it reader. which he shall glve unto you as he receiveth them. April ll. but let us read a few more verses of this same revelation before we refer to that subject. whereupon he declared the Father and the Son came down from heaven and spoke to him in a vision. I have told you that Joseph Smith just needed one verse of our Bible to get a start to establish a church of his own. Right here is where the Bible is annulled and laid aside. which he established April 6. "For by doing these things the gates of hell shall not prevail against you." v. that all the ministers had a form of Godliness. "Being inspired of the Holy Ghost to lay the foundation thereof. But according to the above statement. instead of going to God for wisdom. This we will prove from his own revelation. See. for he was chosen to do a great work. and he asked God for wisdom. 6. & Cov. in all patience and faith. I the very thing they accuse the Christians of doing. After this he even changed that one verse. telling him that all churches were corrupt. as from the mouth of God.He said this verse struck him very forcibly. a translator. should be their guide . "Wherefore. and put up a church of his own. there shall be a record kept among you. Doc. if they accept his Words as from the mouth of God. a prophet. when the Gospel was restored.

shall be the will of the Lord. from people to people. in their synagogues. 1881. when he speaks. and points them to the living word of God. as they believe. this is an ensample unto all those who were ordained unto this Priesthood. Doc." From the above we may observe that Joseph Smith. as made known by the voice of the Spirit. In other words. his weeping for Zion I have seen. 7. him have I inspired to move the muse of Zion in mighty power for good. for his days of rejoicing are come unto the remission of his sins. shall he scripture. and his diligence I know. Behold this is the promise of the Lord unto you.v. Dick and Harry by name through a human agency. (What scriptures? Let us carefully read the following. although called Prophet. Notwithstanding the fact that he had told them they should accept his words as from the mouth of God. When the Holy Ghost speaks. and the power of God unto salvation: 5. and from land to land. 4. shall be the mind of the Lord. If men should commit no other sin than to deny the word of God. (Revelation given through Joseph." v. & Cov. O ye. but in this last revelation he tells them that their words were also infallible and were scripture. "Yea. to Orson Hyde.) 2. the Seer. Ohio. Lyman Johnson. whose mission is appointed unto them to go forth. was called by his ordinance to proclaim the everlasting Gospel. My servant. carnal nature? It is safe to say that there has never been a more deceiving religion than that of Joseph Smith’s. "For thus saith the Lord God. and his followers are told to give heed to all his words and commandments. He speaks to men personally. and lo. to a conference concerning certain elders. How can an unregenerated man walk in holiness before God with an Adamic. 3.) 1. Sec 68. shall he the word of the Lord. And. From the revelation of Joseph Smith we have learned that his words are as infallible as the word of God. and I will cause that I he shall mourn for her no longer. 2 . my servants. Joseph Smith in the above told his followers that their words also were infallible and were scripture. Seer and Revelator. 8. William E. M'Lellin. shall be the voice of the Lord. That is why they all become gods. behold. And this is the ensample unto them. Reader. and the manifestations of my blessings upon his works. God speaks. I will now show to the reader that he again contradicts his own prediction. And whatsoever they shall speak when moved upon by the Holy Ghost. he does not call Tom. The mind and will of the Lord. Orson Hyde. it takes the Holy Ghost to expose the lies of the devil. Portage County. November. Luke Johnson. and also certain items as made known in addition to the Covenants and commandments. and obey his commandments. at Hiram. and expounding all Scriptures unto them. it would be sufficient to send them to hell for eternity. that they shall speak as they are moved upon by the Holy Ghost. did not even have forgiveness of sins. in the congregations of the wicked. and his prayer I have heard. hy the Spirit of the living God. reasoning with.

How shall they escape damnation who deny the divinity of the Word of God? If we go beyond the word." We cannot help but feel sorry for Joseph Smith. Volume II. not to all of the Bible. if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy. I worship one that is just pure and holy enough 'to fulfill all righteousness. and if Jesus begat children. When our Lord shall come again. in my lecture on Marriage. Truly the judgment day will reveal all the secret things. thousands of souls have been led astray from Christ and His word. "this only pertains to the book that John wrote. Orson Hyde. and others were his wives.19. In fact. but truly he was deceived." "Oh. because I said. the Revelator. 2 . When our Lord shall come again. said in Rev. without a natural body. and thou be found a liar. Startle not at this! for even the Father. honored that law by coming down to the Virgin Mary. and through his doctrine. one of the leaders mentioned in the previous revelation of Joseph Smith. that Mary. Martha. There’ll be sorrow. reader. they add to this very book of John. "For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book. 22:18. this verse is pertaining to the scriptures as a whole. and begetting a Son. There’ll be singing. wrote the following in Journal of Discourses. if any man shall add unto these things. God shall take away his part out of the book of life. the penalty pronounced in the hook shall be meted out to them. there’ll be wailing. and let me remind you that they believe that the Virgin Mary was conceived of Adam. there’ll be shouting." But. the Revelator. there’ll be pain. Add thou not unto His words. and then we are lost. and the things which are written in this book. at our last Conference." the Mormons say. and not of the Holy Ghost. See Prov. He only 'did that which He had seen His Father do'. 'to multiply and replenish the earth’. that Jesus Christ was married at Cana of Galilee. "I discover that some of the Eastern papers represent me as a great blasphemer. "All that I have to say in reply to that charge is this--—they worship a Saviour that is too pure and holy to fulfill the commands of His Father. God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: "And. these are the exact words. There’ll be weeping. We do not say that he was a willful deceiver. He is a shield to them that put their trust in Him. lest he reprove thee. We will know as also we are known by God. and out of the holy city. John. and that he begat children. 35:6. Therefore. We shall then be sorry if we have not fully relied on the word of God. page 210. Himself. "Every Word of God is pure. not only the righteous law of baptism. if they do not repent." Reader. we go beyond God. but the still more righteous and important. and have neglected the day of salvation. the revelations of Joseph Smith.

Is water not of the earth? How can the New Birth be half earthly and half from heaven? Spiritual and material things do not mix together. 5:25. for they say they are sinless and cannot repent or believe. that He might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word. what was the need of Christ’s death. it is far greater mockery for those who have understanding and know they are sinners an can repent." This scripture refers us to John 15:3: “Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you. How can any one believe that an infant through water baptism can become an heir of God and an inheritor to the kingdom of heaven? Where does the New Birth come in that Jesus spoke of? How can man believe that a grown person can receive salvation through water baptism? If this was so." Friends. "you cannot separate the water and the spirit. why was Nicodemus so puzzled about it. They want to enter in their own way and not in God’s way. Jesus said. Today." In other words. is spirit. or born again. and gave Himself for it. The Mormons always remark how foolish it is to baptize infants. but what is of the spirit is from heaven. man is trying to find a substitute for the plan of salvation." If the spirit and water baptism bring the New Birth. and their sins are forgiven. more than ever before. Eph. Why didn’t Jesus tell him plainly that He meant water baptism? On the contrary. But in my opinion. You may make yourself believe this until you enter into eternity.NO SALVATION IN WATER BAPTISM I would like to say a little more concerning water baptism. they are still drifting farther and farther away from the truth of the Word of God. Unless we come in contact with Him by faith in Christ's atonement. for Jesus said to Nicodemus. water or priest is of no efficacy to our lost soul. when Nicodemus thought on the earthly birth which comes through water. and that which is born of the Spirit. where does the word come in? 3 . Nothing can regenerate the heart of man but the power of God. "Well." they say. is flesh. ‘Ye must be born again through water and spirit’. 26 … "Christ also loved the church. It is surprising that with all the progress man has made scientifically. and believe to think that through water baptism their sinful heart is changed. "'That which is born of the flesh. that through water baptism they are regenerated. if Jesus meant the water of the earth. and then you will find out you have fooled yourself. That Jesus was referring to the water of the Word of God is evident by the following scripture. what is of the earth is earthly.

to those who believe that water baptism. He asked what the other churches have to offer. second counselor in the first presidency of the church. was the keynote of the ninety-seventh annual cnoference of the Mormon Church. It is a receiving lie from Satan. The theme was taken up by other speakers. through baptism. Joseph Smith. The church. and that its members will embrace other faiths. that he had become a new creature. which is the living water for the soul. in any form. but we have to become new creatures in Christ Jesus. They may become religious and join some church to work out their own salvation. THE LATEST NEWS OF THE MORMON CONFERENCE OF 1927. "In the opening address of the afternoon. and have no conception of the efficacy of the death of Christ. they are on the road to meet that wrath of God against the unrepentant sinner which is everywhere disclosed in God’s Holy Word. and all who are not baptized are lost. does not know their lost condition. and declared that he had no ill will toward other organizations. Water baptism is of a great significance to those who are really born again and washed by the blood. said President Grant. but that he felt sorry for them and wished to help them. If we point them to the thief on the cross. Anyone who does not understand this truth is not seeking for salvation. 3 . Nibley. Heber J.The only agency the Lord uses to reconstruct the souls of men is the Word of God. There will be an awful awakening in eternity. Grant. April 3—"Divinity of Jesus Christ and of the mission of the prophet. They send every one to hell who is not baptized. when. then all who are baptized are saved. "Statistics read by President Grant called attention to the fact that the California mission transferred to the Los Angeles stake. He takes the will for the deed. some say he wasn’t saved. as a fact. as they suppose. deluding multitudes into the belief that they are safe for heaven. others say he was under the Jewish law. property valued at $200. and no bad feeling.” It reads as follows: SALT LAKE CITY.000. And this is really the belief of these water savers. or by any authority can regenerate the soul. I read in the paper the latest news of the Mormon conference of 1927. at the time of the organization of the stake.000 in the California mission. in his opening address today. Charles W. special emphasis being placed on the point that while other churches are said to be torn by discussion placed on the Divinity of Christ. {Mormon) church stand solidly in their testimony that Christ was the Son of the Living God. and was circumcised. But Paul says that neither circumcision nor uncircumcision is of any avail. as voiced by the President. The heading was "DIVINITY OF CHRIST ROCK OF MORMONS. If water baptism regenerates the soul of man. He would have been mighty glad to witness. otherwise it is of no avail. He knew that if the thief on the cross had a chance he would have been willing to be baptized. the members of the Latter-Day Saints. scoffed at the idea advanced by some sectarian writers that the Mormon Church is crumbling. now owns property valued at $400. God looks at the heart.

We have the authority and priesthood. They say we are all divine sons and daughters from birth. They think they have everything.) Have you passed from death unto life? (John 5:24. 8:1. we must send forth the warning. Daily Times. The reason we make such a strenuous effort to explain the scriptures to the Mormon people is because we know they are weaned away from Jesus Christ and the Word of God. 3 .025. have you Christ? Without Christ in our heart.” You cannot work it out before you have received it." "Yes. 3:1.) Is there no condemnation in your soul? (Rom. We have a perfect organization.) Do you know your sins are blotted out? {Isa. and we hope they will study our literature as we do theirs. Salvation is a free gift of God. "I am a member of the true church. and predestined to come on earth and take up a body as Jesus was predestinated."—L. "that is what they say. A.) You say." I replied. You may say. "I work out my salvation. but I know that they do not believe it in the way the Bible teaches it.7."Substantial growth in the church during the year was noted in other statistics read by the president. We have the highest light. In order to awaken them. It is about time that we send them an answer to their questions. Anything we partly pay for cannot be called a free gift. whether they accept it or not. THEY DENY THE INCARNATION OF CHRIST BY THE HOLY GHOST." you say.” The Mormons believe in the divinity of Christ as the Christian Scientists do. These showed a total of 6. after she read this article in the paper. At any rate. religion is an empty shell. A lady said. As the reader may observe from the above statements. They say our spirits are born in heaven of a father and mother.663 converts baptized and entered on the records of the stakes and missions during that time. 5:17. the Word of God has to be brought to them in a new way. AN APPEAL TO THE MORMON PEOPLE TO RETURN TO CHRIST AND THE BIBLE." Is He your Saviour? Does He dwell in your heart by faith? (Eph." But friends. we have prophets and apostles. They talk as the Christians do for they know that is the best way to get people into Mormonism. and we have nothing. 44:22. "Yes. Children baptized in the stakes and missions during the year numbered 15.) Have you become a new creature in Christ Jesus? (2 Cor. they are standing on the Divinity of Christ. "I believe Christ is the Saviour of the World. "That’s one thing I respect the Mormons for. a form with life. they challenge the churches to tell them what they have to offer that they have not.

Only God can do that. ‘Your sins are forgiven. There is no salvation outside of the Bible. Nobody can put you right but God——nobody but God.’ 3 .if you love Him show your gratitude. He humbled Himself and became a man. That’s why He says. He laid His glory by. that you can see your lost condition without Him. and the church is standing by and is silent. they only aggravate. hath life. Give Him your heart.. God cannot speak to you until you surrender to Him and accept His Word. it only aggravates. Your way takes away my hope. etc. Don’t forget it. Study the Word of God and give Him a chance to put conviction upon your soul. Ho deserves it . “Do you want to be reconstructed? Come back to Him. He deserves it. I John 5:12: "He that hath the Son (in his heart). your own salvation. God's way of salvation just dethrones the sinner and makes him feel a poor. Remember! Remember! "And then show your love . bound for an endless destruction.. When human lips say forgiveness is yours. but it enthrones God. A man told me my sins were forgiven a thousand times. hath not life. and he that hath not the Son." No man can save his own soul. but the moment Jesus said. When God puts His hands on you.. . God help us to say a good word for our friend Jesus.Study the Word of God. study the Word of God and He will reveal the truth to your soul. He humbled Himself even to the death of the cross. There is no forgiveness of sin but through the blood of Christ. It is time we did it. You have severed your connection with God by relying on Joseph Smith’s revelations. Your soul is starving for the lack of spiritual food. . Evangelist Gypsy Smith says: "Man’s way of salvation is to glorify self— God’s Way humbles self and enthrones God.’ You cannot have a new life with an old heart. The world is saying hard things about Jesus.God’s way takes away my glory and makes me set in the heavenly place in Christ Jesus . If you do not know that. Nobody but Jesus . your own working out.. lost man. You have gone astray and you have broken trust. it takes blood of Christ to remove all stain of sin. and robs God of His glory .. and therefore makes salvation possible in his humility. for they shall see God. being equal to God.’ my heart found it out! When men put their hands on you. ‘Give Me thy heart. when the divine says it. * * Remember! Christ made Himself of no reputation—remember. ‘Blessed are the pure in heart. if you have any? Come out of your hide and confess your God. who. will take God’s divinity from Him and put divinity in you. (the Bible). your heart leaps for joy. Your religion. He makes a new creature. and the book of Mormon. Dear ones. you are still a lost sinner.

lsa. Eph.. as of a lamb without blemish and without spot. the first and the 1ast. When l see the blood. and HAVE THE KEYS OF HELL AND OF DEATH. " . and. the beginning and the end. who still clings to that old time religion which every true Christian believes in." Those who do not receive Christ as their personal Saviour. lest any man should boast. promising a chance after death. man-made doctrine by those who claim to have authority over your soul. I am alive forevermore.." Rev. 3:20: "For by the deed of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin. neither by our morality or churchianity.” I Peter 1:17. and all ye are brethren. “What shall a man give in exchange for his soul?" lt takes the price of the blood of Christ to redeem us from eternal damnation. Ex. and whose heart departeth from the Lord. "Not of works." 9. transfer His rights to anyone else. and He has not. Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things. * * * * * 3 . Salvation comes through faith in the atonement of the blood of Christ. Jer. It is not true that through the death of Christ ALL men are redeemed. "But with the precious blood of Christ. 23:8: “BE not ye called Rabbi: for ONE is your master even Christ. as silver and gold." Gal. It is a lie from the pit. and they don’t know it.. Amen. I will pass over you. and maketh flesh his arm." Rom. cursed be the man that trusteth in man. and will not.Thank God for a man like Brother Gypsy Smith. ye are FALLEN FROM GRACE. We have the burden for your souls and are praying for you constantly. 5:4: "Christ is become of no effect unto you whosoever of you are justified by the law." God is still on the throne. and was dead.” The devil is rocking men to sleep. 52:3: "For thus saith the Lord. especially for the people of my own nationality who are raised and nurtured by the Word of God and by guile are weaned away from the fountains of living waters. although they will be resurrected from the grave. This is Biblical. and ye shall be redeemed without money. behold. and not through any of our own good merits. here on earth. Only those who receive the blood of Christ on the door posts of their heart will receive redemption." Jesus said in Matt.. from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers. Mark 8:37. 1:18: "I am He that liveth. 22:13: "I am Alpha and Omega. 2:8: "For by grace are ye saved through faith: and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God. Ye have sold yourself for naught. 2:13. 17:5: "Thus saith the Lord." Rev." We cannot be saved by any of our own good merits. will die the second death.

RETURN T0 CHRIST AND THE BIBLE. The love of God constrains us to send out this message. accept Jesus. plead for mercy. God is calling you. your confidence. 3 . flee from wrath to come. time is short.We must receive salvation before we can work it out. Repent now. He wants your heart. He loves you. Repent now.

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providing the ordinance is performed by their authority. convert the Mormons back to Christ and the Bible. We think it is about time that the Christians awakened to their responsibility. let us live to make men free. Christ was born across the sea. While God is marching on. They make the majority of their proselytes from the Christian churches. They tell the reader they will be back in fourteen days for a reply. and put forth a little more effort and be bold enough to make a house to house canvas to SOW THE SEED OF THE WORD OF GOD. As He died to make men holy. and after they are won. That is why it is so hard for them to come to the light. and that every creature must stand or fall by the Bible. called "A Friendly Discussion. Many of their followers do not live their religion. We know that God’s word will not." nothing is mentioned about Joseph Smith. Still they claim to be the most enlightened people on the earth. if they knew what they are missing without a REAL SOUL SALVATION. hence." Please pass this message on to a Mormon friend. return unto Him void. "In the beauty of the lilies. promising them salvation in the act of water baptism. thinking thus to be saved. they are not yet looking for anything else. May we draw the attention of the reader to the fact that in this booklet. the Book of Mormon or any of their other books. With a glory in His bosom that transfigures you and me. and cannot.Sow the Seed of the Word of God The Mormon elders often make a house to house canvas to distribute their free literature. when they leave the church they lose their salvation. Oh. but they cling to their church. because they think they have it all. they substitute the doctrine of the church. They win people by the Bible. They are ignorant of a real heart experience through faith in Christ’s atonement. They are well posted on their subject and so nearly resemble the truth that those who do not know their doctrine cannot easily detect the wrong. 3 .

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