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net DNA Morgellons What follows are links and info copied and pasted to this document, some of which was very hard to find. I share in pdf format for two reasons: Edit → Search View → Read Out Loud → Activate Read Out Loud Then View → Read Out Loud → etc I find I can decode the text, making it my own, so to speak, more easily if I can read and listen simultaneously. I haven't the time to edit the entirety of this document, but the (2) YouTubes I viewed are: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhIIDc1raSM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2rg25fXd9s I think enough of us have captured these videos, so they won't be “disappeared.” I was able to resurrect some, not all, of what I sought. For example, at one point “southcity” talks of an upcoming radio show. I found the host in question, but not that particular show. I want to thank these pioneers, who couldn't have known what they were up against. I'd love to hear from “Tam Tam” (TamTam) or “southcity” or any of the players who were there, who might know how this all played out. I've entirely lost faith in the public sector AND private Corporate Media. Once you wake up to the reality of chemTrails, Morgellons, etc., you'll wonder how it was you stayed asleep for so long. Morgellons victims don't have that luxurious option. Probably the best place to contact me is: http://plus.google.com/112442901766336088164/posts If you prefer FaceBook, here: http://www.facebook.com/rose.rosetta.96 or here:
http://www.facebook.com/pages/ChemTrailActivist/411316182257392 or leave a comment at my most recent YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/user/SisterRosetta/videos Also here, but I haven't quite figured out yet: http://www.skyderalert.com/profile-2834/ Thank you so much for caring, Rose Bongiovanni Cupo Thursday, August 1, 2013 P.S. Needless to say some of the following more pertinent than the rest. I had neither the time nor the expertise to edit. I would pay special attention to the correspondence between Van Eeden (Tam Tam) and southcity. I was able to grab 3 out of 4 pages worth.
http://www.indiadivine.org/audarya/ayurveda-health-wellbeing/1033319-video-morgellonssilentsuperbug-com.html Forum Main Forums Ayurveda, Health and Wellbeing Video - Morgellons - silentsuperbug.com 08-21-2006, 08:05 AM #1 guest Video - Morgellons - silentsuperbug.com http://www.crossinglines.net/ A person affiliated with a university and hospital staff laboratory in Europe contacted me last October after they had viewed my old website, Here is what they said. For all communications with them follow this link. check back if interested as there is more to add. " You are infected by a stray (non disclosed) target of a proteome research center. " " The fact that so little official reaction exists is because the facts will have a tremendous effect on the economy; in particular to existing policy in relation to bio technology. " " Fact is that people who know what this element does represent will not let the public know, because international upheaval will be the result, as well politically, economically as what concerns the opinion of the general public. " " Understand that many nations work on non disclosed targets in C3 environment and that a " convenient " diplomatic protocol exist how to handle this type situation. Its all about statistical significance and not about a relatively small number symptomatic people and the fact that people disappear in statistic by way of unrelated cause of death(...) " " On August 24, 2004 I send more disturbing video footage to CDC, the ECDC and Interpol in France. The ECDC let me immediately know that I have identified a major potential threat. " When I asked how I could help and in fact why they needed anyone's help, this was their answer. " However, What I seek is an American who would like to do two things. 1/ Make a comprehensive video tape available on the internet. (I will provide You with a DVD) 2/ Go to court and ask an American Judge for an inquiry about how it is possible that CDC does nothing to inform the public about the presence of this pathogen under the U.S. c.q global population. (I will provide you a copy of the ECDC letter) As You will understand things are very political. " His video can be viewed here
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darpa to control evolution http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgh0N26ZU3Y http://morgellonsresearchgroup.com/morgellons-and-the-silent-superbug/ “A silent acting superbug has been identified in this laboratory. The micro organism is a synthetic model organism. A model organism based on Quorum Sensing–cell-cell communication, navigation, robotic-like behavior, protein formation, assembly. The organism is a stray target of a proteome research center. A target intended for medical, industrial and military type spin…” http://www.bariumblues.com/chemtrails_nanotechnology_aeroso.htm Silent Superbug Videos I wish there was more information available about these videos. The images are impressive, but nothing is really explained. Perhaps they are particularly meaningful for the bacteriologist, but as a layperson I don't really understand what is being shown. Some parts of it look just like many of the Morgellons images, but other than that, I just don't really get it. For example, "Fusarium" is a fungi.*... And who has labelled this disease "STRAIN CBL001"? Who made these videos? It all seems rather cryptic. *Update: In MORGELLONS: MORPHOLOGY CONFIRMED fungi are identified as appearing to play a role in Morgellons! (as are heavy metals!) Silent Superbug Series Revealing Video Footage About A Man Made Environmentally Resistant And Contagious Human Pathogen. The Micro Organism Is A Synthetic Model Organism And A Product Of Proteomic And Genomic Research. (Start Series: April 2006) -SilentSuperbug - Update 2007 Exclusive video footage of a man made human pathogen (STRAIN CBL001). The video shows reject in the form of a mammalian like hair and gene expression that indicates the presence of insect cell technology. Fusarium spp.has consistently been cultured from the concept.
Morgellons and The Silent Superbug. Credit: TamTam. “A silent acting superbug has been identified in this laboratory. The micro organism is a synthetic model organism. A model organism based on Quorum Sensing–cell-cell … Did I just figure out the fibers?? – Morgellons Disease ‘Morgellons’ is the popular name for a skin condition that, from scientific evidence, appears similar to delusional parasitosis, i.e. a very strong delusional belief that parasites are crawling under the skin. But just because it’s a … Published on Nov 25, 2012 by mfromcanada1 Fiber disease, silentsuperbug, CBL001 is a cyanobacteria fused with a trypanasome-like element. Hawaii. Sabrina, on April 4, 2008 at 11:53 am said: I am very glad to see the general public finally begining to realize what is going on. Thank you Barbara! We need to create the awareness because no matter what the cause is, one thing is for sure, this is definitely NOT a natural condition. NOTHING in nature produces what this does. And why would people be calling this condition something it could not possibly be? Morgellons, a disease discovered in the 16th century? Not a chance in heaven as the technology simply did not exist. More spin perhaps? “Series revealing video footage about a man made environmentally resistant and contagious human pathogen(start series: April 2006). The micro organism is a synthetic model organism and a product of proteomic and genomic research.” http://www.silentsuperbug.com/ http://silentsuperbug-reference.blogspot.com/ I only wish that diet was the answer to protecting ones self from this but am afraid this is not the case. http://thefiberdisease.proboards.com/ Silent Superbug videos I wish there was more information available about these videos. The images are impressive, but nothing is really explained. Perhaps they are particularly meaningful for the bacteriologist, but as a layperson I don't really understand what is being shown. Some parts of it look just like many of the Morgellons images, but other than that, I just don't really get it. For example, "Fusarium" is a fungi.*... And who has labelled this disease "STRAIN CBL001"? Who made these videos? It all seems rather cryptic. *Update: In MORGELLONS: MORPHOLOGY CONFIRMED fungi are identified as appearing to play a role in Morgellons! (as are heavy metals!) silent superbug Series revealing video footage about a man made environmentally resistant and contagious human pathogen. The micro organism is a synthetic model organism and a product of proteomic and genomic research. (start series: April 2006) -SilentSuperbug - Update 2007 Exclusive video footage of a man made human pathogen (STRAIN CBL001). The video shows reject in the form of a mammalian like hair and gene expression that indicates the presence of insect cell technology. Fusarium spp.has consistently been cultured from the concept.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhIIDc1raSM Info from video I quorum sensing-cell to cell communication navigation robotic behavior protein formation assembly organism is a stray target of a proteome research center. www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=proteome+research+center&aq=f&oq= target is for medical, industrial and military type spin off polymer bipolar cellulose like filaments secretome biosensor related cell line protein crystals/mutiple pathways-bipolar multiple traits microcystitis-rhodophyta like signal in signal fission formation filament and winged cutilcle muticellular activitiy multinucleated giant cell(black specs?) random recombination formation-pigmented filament(colored fibers?) microscopic process satellite cells(black specks?) macroscopic process genesis fly-like entity(winged insects flying from skin?) genesis wing swarming wing spot polymerazation formation-polygon sheet formation wing/wing cuticle wing anatomy Satellite cell endosporulation translation from mold- (translation happens during DNA formation) global spread of caused by man-made disaster prefernce for the follice(hair follicles) stem cell related activity http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2rg25fXd9s
http://lymebusters.proboards.com/thread/3084 Quorumsensing. « Prev1Next » junebook Senior Member
Posts: 293 Jul 19, 2006 at 3:21pm QuotePost by junebook on Jul 19, 2006 at 3:21pm If you're fairly new to this great site, LymeBusters/Morgellons, even if you've been here for years, you may not know of the site below. When I first came across it, I had the hardest time getting registered. I kept trying, however, because I wanted to see both videos--which is about all there is to see. The videos are so interesting, but I wish they'd narrated all the way through so people like me would know exactly what we're looking at. If you adjust your screen correctly for each video, you'll be able to read any and all info in the corresponding margin. Don't know who the researcher is, or where he's located, but I'll find out. Based on their opinions and conclusions in the videos regarding the SILENTSUPERBUG'S origins etc., I vacillate between "They don't have both oars in the water," and "Does our government know about this?" I'd like to know what you think Whenever I am tempted, whenever clouds arise, When songs give place to sighing, when hope within me dies, I draw the closer to Him, from care He sets me free; His eye is on the sparrow, and I know He watches me life Ultimate Member
Posts: 945 Jul 19, 2006 at 10:54pm QuotePost by life on Jul 19, 2006 at 10:54pm No link... life "...Claude Bernard, an eminent French physician and contemporary of Louis Pasteur: “When one is confronted with a fact which is in opposition with a prevalent theory, one must accept this fact and abandon the theory, even though the latter, supported by great men, may be generally subscribed to.” "Let that which is darkness be brought into the Light" greta Senior Member
Posts: 416 Jul 20, 2006 at 12:27am QuotePost by greta on Jul 20, 2006 at 12:27am www.silentsuperbug.com "You don’t topple a wall by punching it. You line up all of your strong forces and push slowly and steadily. The wall will fall." ~ anon. physician 22122
Jul 20, 2006 at 1:28am QuotePost by Guest on Jul 20, 2006 at 1:28am I have no way to ever view it as my computer is too old. Just hopeless. junebook Senior Member
Posts: 293 Jul 26, 2006 at 5:48pm QuotePost by junebook on Jul 26, 2006 at 5:48pm If you'd really like to see it, 22122, I could send it to you via e-mail. Let me know, okay?. Whenever I am tempted, whenever clouds arise, When songs give place to sighing, when hope within me dies, I draw the closer to Him, from care He sets me free; His eye is on the sparrow, and I know He watches me bigmike Full Member
Posts: 235 Jul 26, 2006 at 6:44pm QuotePost by bigmike on Jul 26, 2006 at 6:44pm Try your local library. I have to try libraries in two counties sometimes to find one that will play certain videos. grsue Senior Member
Posts: 327 Jul 26, 2006 at 10:54pm QuotePost by grsue on Jul 26, 2006 at 10:54pm Junebook-
The videos on this site are made by 'tamtam" aren't they?Look back at the old threads. There's a lot written about the videos, him, -I won't go into it. I think he posts some place else. He seems to have "all the answers" and videos, but never comes out and says what this is and what to do about it. Very weird.But worth a look for sure. prevenge Ultimate Member
Posts: 3,155 Sep 1, 2006 at 7:14pm QuotePost by prevenge on Sep 1, 2006 at 7:14pm I dont know if the videos are "made" by tamtam, (i've read many of his cryptic sounding posts on biology-online.net) he is german. I think he "found" these videos and posted them there.. i could be wrong. I have found these videos of GREAT interest. I think they should be investigated profusely. The ones on his site are google-video media links, meaning they were uploaded TO Google Video of SuperBug first, and hosted there, then either put there FOR the site and played there, or were FOUND there and put on the site. the videos almost seem like a ... like a SALES PITCH for "Dr Evil " types, who want to make "ONE TRIIIIILLION" $ off of a pleading suffering public. And i dont think that's a far out assumption when this guy literally says:
"microbial resistance seems synonymous with successful exploitation of the healthy body" "a cure is simply not profitable, contrary to present investment in gene altering and suppressive therapy" "a pact depending on consensus based decision making by members of the Western Alliance, may finally relate to remarkable profit and the global spread of systemic disease caused by a man made disaster" but then again he predicates the entire matter that this "model" was "found" in this laboratory then hints at the rest. i mean HELL .. our Secretary of Defense... made 5 Mill off of the Bird Flu Vaccine in stock that he owns... link to THAT here... The Independent Online - Rumsfeld makes 5 Mill
The video is Copyright under the "Bern Convention" usa/eu/Bell Van Eeden/2006 No Google Search shows anything for Bell Van Eeden.
From - www.coe.int/t/e/cultural_cooperation/environment/nature_and_biological_diversity/Nature_protection/ "The Bern Convention is a binding international legal instrument in the field of nature conservation, which covers the whole of the natural heritage of the European continent and extends to some States of Africa. Its aims are to conserve wild flora and fauna and their natural habitats and to promote European co-operation in that field" I have ripped the videos from their FLV flash format into AVIs. I am trying to encode them into a smaller format, as they are around 65MB each. I am keeping the large ones to archive onto a DVD, and sending people the DVD. in case the superbug site goes down someday or the google video is removed. When I get it down to an easily sendable size, I will post links to it so that any of you can view them. Even doctor Wydmore (sp?) I've seen has typed that the images in these videos are QUITE remarkable. It sums up that this is a highly resistant (seemingly indestructable) , synthetic pathogen that IS contagous and contracted via air, water, or any vector (insect, mite, or other way of aqquiring it), that introduces new "robots" synthetic micro organisms that are have different "jobs" and help each other via communication artificial "quorum sensing", and mimic DNA, blending into the host's system and "creating" other organisms within it.... in one shot we see the "genesis" of different body parts of a flylike insect being created within the host. my god how much further down the rabbit hole do i want to go with this...... . Last Edit: Sep 1, 2006 at 7:40pm by prevenge godog Ultimate Member
Posts: 1,916 Sep 2, 2006 at 7:29am QuotePost by godog on Sep 2, 2006 at 7:29am Looks like what we have to me. So, what's the point of this, to wait till there are enough infected folks to make a profit? Money. These bastards that made this, probably already have a cure, just sitting on it. tonie Ultimate Member
Posts: 2,338 Sep 2, 2006 at 7:44am QuotePost by tonie on Sep 2, 2006 at 7:44am Don't know why I'm unable to see anything there on that site, even requested password, shoot. janedough
Posts: 971 Sep 2, 2006 at 7:44am QuotePost by janedough on Sep 2, 2006 at 7:44am I think that I am the only one here who believes Tam Tam. Everything he has said so far has been correct with me. My symptoms have developed so rapidly. I have not been on any medication for this. In the last three months I went from having an occasional lesion with a rare fiber in my body to 13 lesions on my right arm, which are enormous, six major ones on my neck and back. three on left foot one on left leg which is also huge. My body is prducing fibers left and right. I find it amazing and disturbing to see what is going on in my body. I will be ordering the terramycin today from Foster and Smith online. I just want to look human again. This is repulsive and criminal what is going on. I am usually a fun-loving outgoing girl who is the life of the party. This has stolen my life, my marriage is in question and I have exactly ZERO hope that the CDC is going to find anything. I know that we will be left in our sinking ships and they will pass us in the night holding our life preservers. I do not know how it is possible that they can do this to their own. THE TRUTH IS THE GREATEST ENEMY OF THE STATE." -- Joseph Goebbels, German Minister of Propaganda, 1933-1945 tonie Ultimate Member
Posts: 2,338 Sep 2, 2006 at 8:20am QuotePost by tonie on Sep 2, 2006 at 8:20am JaneDough, I feel like you do, exactly...I'm sure everyone does too. And I swear, I can't handle this sometimes, I cannot, just cannot believe this is happening. I've never been stuck at home like this, I'm active, I mean out there too, and only saw home as a place to reside, eat and sleep. I mean I (((( LOVED)))) life. And now...I'm in PRISON. The lesions you have on your arms, I've got many more on my f-ing FACE! And not that this means a pot of beans cause it doesn't, but I just spent a fortune on getting plastic surg done, boobs, eyelids, C02 full face, Exoderm peel, to the tune of 52K! And what the hell for, I ask myself? For parasites to eat or whatever this sh*t is to eat me alive and rot in front of my computer and be totally trapped in my house? I mean it's a f-ing joke to me....that I was actually concerned about a few lines of my face...so I had those "removed" and here I am a total mess with a couple of hundred LESIONS and totally f-ed up.
I can't write publically (on here) what I'd love to do to someone who's behind this or the ones dragging their asses, because this IS criminal...and not only on the "superfical" part, cause who cares...but my life too is sinking!!!! Everything I've ever worked my stupid ass off for, my home, my everything is so screwed up cause "I'm" not able to even be seen in public! So I'm only venting, cause I really know what you mean. And for US to HAVE TO TRY AND SELF TREAT, AND BE TREATED LIKE WE'RE SOME KIND OF IDIOTS....ohhhh that is what's making me crazy too, because HOW DARE THE F-ING bastards drag one second too long to figure this out, when so many are so affected/infected and in worse condition than me. This IS CRIMINAL! Thanks I needed that "vent", and sorry, I'm just busting at the seams with anger about this entire entire entire situation, because it IS total hell. specuelatin MasterThread Facilitator Independant Contractor
Well-behaved women rarely make history... Posts: 2,396 Sep 2, 2006 at 8:42am QuotePost by specuelatin on Sep 2, 2006 at 8:42am That was a great rant! Hey ms. tonie, though don't be referrin' to your face with that explicitive. Just them lesions. Them f--ng facial lesions. Face, still good. spec "The mind is not a vessel to be filled but a fire to be kindled." -Plutarch imblownaway Ultimate Member
Sep 2, 2006 at 8:43am QuotePost by imblownaway on Sep 2, 2006 at 8:43am Well Janedough I try to keep on open mind. Butto think that this is a natural unidentified parasite is just too much of a stretch of the imagination. I went to a few days without shaving my legs.(not recommended) cause out in the elements in a pair of shorts...I could just feel this sensation. creepy. The hair does have some type of sensor. Yeah sensors I think the fibers and hair all have it.I left a shirt i had worn on the bathroom sink. Running the hot water nearby. I noticed that a hair form my head was on the shirt because it actually raised up in response. Also Ive witnessed this with one dangling form the lamp shade. The white inch long crimped ones. they move and respond to vibration as well as to heat and light. So I dont know if thats what is meant by Quorum sensing but I do know these things sense. And they scare me and most people wouldnt let a dog suffer as much as we have. When people thinkof global disasters tey usually think of astroids or nuclear radiatin and stuff. But heres one noone suspected. We were never asked if mixing animal genes with our vegtables was o.k. Or manipulating insects for agricuture was o.k. and all the other frankensein things going on. On a world unaware. tonie Ultimate Member
Posts: 2,338 Sep 2, 2006 at 8:51am QuotePost by tonie on Sep 2, 2006 at 8:51am hahahaha Spec! That's funny, but what about my stupid ass? hahahahaha Thanks, needed a laugh! specuelatin MasterThread Facilitator Independant Contractor
Well-behaved women rarely make history... Posts: 2,396 Sep 2, 2006 at 9:17am QuotePost by specuelatin on Sep 2, 2006 at 9:17am That's what the switch on the light socket is for. ;D "The mind is not a vessel to be filled but a fire to be kindled." -Plutarch prevenge Ultimate Member
Posts: 3,155 Sep 2, 2006 at 10:56am QuotePost by prevenge on Sep 2, 2006 at 10:56am while we're on the topic of hairs on this thread, I 'd liek to tel you abotu somethign that happened when i first felt these sensations. I havent told anyone this. I felt a movement at my follicle.. you know.. the itch-movement feeling where you go to brush somethign that isn't there off? well this time it was on my knuckle hairs, and i went and brought my hand up in front of my face and looked at my clenched fist sideways... so that i could have my computer's monitor's light behind the hairs, and that i could look across the surface of my finger closeley with the light behind it contrasting to see the hairs clearly. i swear to god I am not making this up, one of my hairs moved from about a 60 degree angle pointing off of my finger to pointing down onto my finger. it moved i wathed it happen on its own .. and it wasnt caught on another hair and wasnt merely springing back to a position it had earlier.. it was in one position and just ...zoom.. moved at an angle by its self. also i could feel it being active as it moved.. it took about one second to fully move. neve thought i'd have told anyone that, but thought i could share that with you guys. tonie Ultimate Member
Posts: 2,338 Sep 2, 2006 at 11:20am QuotePost by tonie on Sep 2, 2006 at 11:20am Trust me, no problem in saying this stuff, cause WE all know it's true. We've seen it. I've picked out a thin strand about 1/4" inch, worm I think - and watched it on the end of the needle writhe actually in a jerky movement back and forth - like a boomerang, first bent one way, and then then next way, extremely fast, till it dried out. We are so infested with things we've never been before, and having our hair move on it's own...all of it is so bizarre, and I think our poor bodies don't know if they're coming or going. But yep...lots of changes, so nothing is too far out there, unless we begin flying, then I'll have to see that one to believe.
http://www.morgboard.proboards.com/thread/26 Jan 14, 2009 at 5:28am QuotePost by aqt on Jan 14, 2009 at 5:28am Info from video I quorum sensing-cell to cell communication navigation robotic behavior protein formation assembly organism is a stray target of a proteome research center. www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=proteome+research+center&aq=f&oq= target is for medical, industrial and military type spin off polymer bipolar cellulose like filaments secretome biosensor related cell line protein crystals/mutiple pathways-bipolar multiple traits microcystitis-rhodophyta like signal in signal fission formation filament and winged cutilcle muticellular activitiy multinucleated giant cell(black specs?) random recombination formation-pigmented filament(colored fibers?) microscopic process satellite cells(black specks?) macroscopic process genesis fly-like entity(winged insects flying from skin?) genesis wing swarming wing spot polymerazation formation-polygon sheet formation wing/wing cuticle wing anatomy Satellite cell endosporulation translation from mold- (translation happens during DNA formation) global spread of caused by man-made disaster prefernce for the follice(hair follicles) stem cell related activity Last Edit: Jan 14, 2009 at 5:32am by aqt aqt Administrator
Posts: 4,723 Jan 14, 2009 at 5:28am QuotePost by aqt on Jan 14, 2009 at 5:28am cuticle and sensor(hair cuticle?) genesis sensor human hair with sensing filament wing anatomy related cell line host/pathogen interaction-(video exactly like Andy Coyles you tube) dissemination in skin sarcoidosis like(affects the lungs) film forming(clear goo/pseudo scabs) oncholysis 1. The destruction of a tumor or tumor cells. 2. The reduction of any swelling or mass. opportunistic hyper/hypopigmentation follicle based dermatitis like insect bite like base architecture represents a cyanobacteria like (CBL) fused with a trypansoma like element. this base architecture will differentiate in a set commensal resembling microorganisms differentiation = cell specialization multi-lineage differentiation is a fact elements are reciprocal in action aqt Administrator
Posts: 4,723 Jan 14, 2009 at 5:29am QuotePost by aqt on Jan 14, 2009 at 5:29am quorum sensing is a stem cell like property infection with this element mimics protothecosis and trypanosomiasis-(African sleeping sickness...remember my photos of t.cruzi which is the cause of African sleeping sickness...right Skytroll?) the agent constitutes foreign adaptive protein PROTEIN MIMICKS DNA association with multinucleated giant cell type langerhans(Langerhans' cells are dendritic cells abundant in epidermis, containing large granules called Birbeck granules. They are normally present in lymph nodes, and can be found in other organs in the condition Histiocytosis.) also vacuolated(vacuole=1. A small cavity in the cytoplasm of a cell, bound by a single membrane and containing water, food, or metabolic waste.2. A small space or cavity in a tissue.)
vacuolated cytokine and epithelial cells is rational. multi dominant gene expression is associated with differential lepidoptera and diptera marine related specie bird like specie mammal like specie higher primate aqt Administrator
Posts: 4,723 Jan 14, 2009 at 5:30am QuotePost by aqt on Jan 14, 2009 at 5:30am Prognosis Host Pathogen Interaction infection with this synthetic element is acute, persisting and latent general characterisitics slowly progressive and invsive mode of transmission air water contact and vector borne Infection may be direct or indirect/becomes associated with differential protothecosis/trypanosomiasis tissue replacing property-calcification/erosion therapy resistant skin disease sarcoidosis Irritable Bowel Syndrome Chronic Fatigue Syndrome Peripheral Neuropathy Microcirculation Vascualr Related Disease Fibromyalgia/sclerotic process granulomations process joint pain Infection of urogenital tract neurologic condition Involvement of the CNS Conjunctivitis/Infestation of the vitreous otitis(ear inflammation) sinusitis(sinus inflammation) autoimmune related diseases JUST LIKE MYCOPLASMA INFECTIONS-SAME SYMPTOMS nosocomial infection-(picked up in a hospital-nurses with highest incidence) Prolonged contact with this type element could become associated with neurodegenerative disease factor in cancer like process(like mycoplasma) congenital disease
Posts: 4,723 Jan 14, 2009 at 5:31am QuotePost by aqt on Jan 14, 2009 at 5:31am communication initiative about novel, environmentally resisitive, pathogenic and contagious...stem cell relatedman-made synthetic quorum sensing microorganisms. formations of nucleus by cyanobacteria like organisms (CBL) biosynthesis protein crystals example of biosynthesis(photos of hexagons and crystals) quorum sensing-hive mentality identical strain proof conclusive gene expression of mammal-higher primate autonomous vector formation belly associated with mold-kineoplast reproductive cycle-recombination swarmer/gamete multiple walled membrane apical complex not excluded(This complex can be visualized only in electron micrographs and consists of an apical conoid (conical structure) into which the ducts of sac-like organelles called rhoptries lead. Microtubules* extend backwards from this complex to support the surface of the organism (they are said to be cortical in location). aqt Administrator
Posts: 4,723 Jan 14, 2009 at 5:57am QuotePost by aqt on Jan 14, 2009 at 5:57am the video shows the words genesis vibrio like element genesis: The coming into being of something; the origin Did they first create "artificial" vibrio, trypanosoma, rhodophyta and cyanobacteria organisms..?????????
is that what he means by "like" elements? Is Morgellon's a combination of some "artificial" organic organisms combined with some organic? perhaps the entire thing is comprised of artificial organisms and not just a slice of the DNA of the organics? aqt Last Edit: Jan 14, 2009 at 5:59am by aqt aqt Administrator
Posts: 4,723 Jan 14, 2009 at 6:21am QuotePost by aqt on Jan 14, 2009 at 6:21am PROTEINS THAT MIMIC DNA www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=+proteins+that+mimic+DNA&btnG=Search aqt aqt Administrator
Posts: 4,723 Jan 14, 2009 at 7:15am QuotePost by aqt on Jan 14, 2009 at 7:15am Drosophelia mbe.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/23/6/1101 belongs to the order of DIPTERA adaptive protein---drosophelia mbe.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/23/6/1101 aqt aqt Administrator
Posts: 4,723 Jan 14, 2009 at 1:51pm QuotePost by aqt on Jan 14, 2009 at 1:51pm clue: microcystis occurs from nothing other than cyanobacteria www.dnr.state.md.us/Bay/hab/microcystis2.html clue by clue dot by dot we will not stop teeheehee aqt aqt Administrator
Posts: 4,723 Jan 14, 2009 at 4:33pm QuotePost by aqt on Jan 14, 2009 at 4:33pm assembely another superbug clue DNA nanotechnology combines the two concepts of programmable intermolecular assembly using sticky ends with DNA topologies based on branched molecules. ... sticky ends DNA www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=sticky+ends+DNA+topology&aq=f&oq= aqt aqt Administrator
Posts: 4,723 Jan 14, 2009 at 4:39pm QuotePost by aqt on Jan 14, 2009 at 4:39pm
DNA end...sticky end en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNA_end DNA end or sticky end refers to the properties of the end of a molecule of DNA. The concept is important in molecular biology, especially in cloning or when subcloning insert DNA into vector DNA. All the terms can also be used in reference to RNA. aqt aqt Administrator
Posts: 4,723 Jan 14, 2009 at 4:40pm QuotePost by aqt on Jan 14, 2009 at 4:40pm Sticky ends Digestions of double-stranded DNA by many restriction enzymes (e.g. EcoR I) generate ends with a short single-stranded sequences. Such ends are called sticky ends. Related: Blunt ends Overhang
www.changbioscience.com/res/res/rStickysends.htm bannannas New Member
Whoever said a FIBER diet was good for you? Posts: 30 Jan 29, 2009 at 6:54pm QuotePost by bannannas on Jan 29, 2009 at 6:54pm Great thread aqt... I bookmarked it so maybe I can understand more of it as time goes on! Thanks ~~ bannannas If I could sit across the porch from God... I'd thank Him for giving me you skyship Top Member
Posts: 7,078 Jan 29, 2009 at 10:37pm QuotePost by skyship on Jan 29, 2009 at 10:37pm
right on...........good ........narrowing it down. Now, there is help in the wings already, I have seen it. But, some of us have 3 diseases going on. blood disease Dark hair, light skin, tan, green or brown eyes, or black hair white skin, blue eyes) depends on ancestors. stone/bone/muscle (generally blue eyed, fair skin, big boned or could include us all) depends on gen mod or ancestors genetically modified (any or all of us) depends on ancestry and previous insertion of U gene or frankenstein or ogre gene and parasites, new novel buggers created by the lovely experimental bug, bird, frog, dragon, you name it. But, it is the thievery gene that really causes a heck of a lot of trouble, seems that just can't be fixed unless one gets down on their knees. We can and do. But, lets pray the Chess Players do and checkmate their next move.
Some of us who have all three have integrated some, keeps us alive right now, the rest is slow, and may not, but, there are some people, behind scenes working on this. Until the truth comes out, the wrong will not be righted. In meantime there is help out there. Some newer things coming out. I just found for those who have the calcium overload problem, that exercise and sweating and it may also help the parasite disease as well. Work up a sweat.
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Posts: 7,078 Jan 29, 2009 at 11:22pm QuotePost by skyship on Jan 29, 2009 at 11:22pm Earth as human. Mountains/Stones as bones, Strong Vikings, Dutch, Laplanders, Tall Danes, Tall Cherokees, Tall Asians and Indians, Tall Black, Tall Italian, Tall Island people, Tall Arabs, Tall Folks. Big folks, giants, cut off at knees or their civilization wiped out. Gotta protect the foot hills.
Caves, inside our bodies, Foothills, the protruding parts. The Rivers as Veins, Aorta The creeks the capillaries Feet, solid folks, big or small, the base of the mountain, Lakes the water in our bodies. or eyes as lakes mirrors, reflectors get the idea........... fungus as microtubules. Except does not need any genetic engineering. They may come out with gene altering drugs or vaccines. BEWARE. The spark somewhere in the rock, the right rock, not the simulated gypsum. Where ever you are, you are mirrored by a person on the other side of the planet. Mountain/shadow Rivers Streams Creeks Muscles etc........ The earth itself unaltered is us. The dust of life, where the cliffs point in a V. Where the crystals flow, where the water flows. Where the dents in the earth are. The mirror an upside down V. The pyramid, mmmmmmm RICOLA................................................................ echo.......................ricola................... The earth needs to burp, breathe, let that oil bubble up.
Becomes stagnant, earth is not hollow, but someone sure wants out. If you cut a tree down, plant a new one. Wood is good, that is what trees are for. Builds some good ships. just don't get "Scurvy" Where did Paul Bunyan go? Where did they come from. Seems the hole in the ozone is there for a purpose. The road to nowhere just might go somewhere. Just need to find where we are going, hahahahaha. I'd rather go up than down. Seems the volcanoes are rumbling. Pay attention to the reports, the good ones. And the sunspot rays as well. But, there is a rumbling going on up yonder too as well. Seems scientists hear something out yonder but, can't quite label it. It must be good, got enough misery here. Skytroll bannannas New Member
Whoever said a FIBER diet was good for you? Posts: 30 Feb 5, 2009 at 12:51am QuotePost by bannannas on Feb 5, 2009 at 12:51am You should be a poet sky... altho I don't get alot of that either, it sure sounds good! Well, I'm a tall Italian, light brown hair and I have brown eyes. But as for the feet being the base of the mountain, my mountain's standin on pretty unsolid goopy ground... probably cuz my feet are too small for my height ha! Anyway, I don't know if you've read where I posted about my hands and feet. But I've got nothin but goop comin out of them. My feet tho are really bad. It gets so bad my crocks start makin a slushy sound when I walk. I was takin them off to clean up constantly and would always find most of it had hardened and turned to a yellowish crust full of fibers. Yesterday it was really bad again, but this time when I took my crocks off I almost croaked. I saw big green globby things in the bottoms of my shoes. They looked like the Jolly Green himself blew a few big boogers in there. It was gross... had the consistency of stagnant jello and they were a slimy green color. They were pretty big in size too, alot bigger than the dried crusty pods were I was getting before. I scraped it up (again) and put it in a zip lock and will take it in to my new doc when I go back in. He should be just lovin me in no time at all! Doubt he'll say or do much about it tho. Wonder if there's any where to send this stuff to where it would actually be looked at? Maybe I'll give Dr. H a call and see if she wants it. One last note...
I sure pity the one on the other side of the planet who's mirroring me... and if I'm mirroring them, all I can say to them is fu*k you! hugs ~~ bannannas If I could sit across the porch from God... I'd thank Him for giving me you maggiemae New Member
Posts: 29 Feb 5, 2009 at 12:56pm QuotePost by maggiemae on Feb 5, 2009 at 12:56pm Bannannas, Just wanted to say ~ lmao and "ditto!" Mm aqt Administrator
Posts: 4,723 Feb 12, 2009 at 10:36am QuotePost by aqt on Feb 12, 2009 at 10:36am reproductive cycle-recombination clue from silent superbug genetic recombination:
www.cliffsnotes.com/WileyCDA/Section/What-does-genetic-recombination-mean-.id305406,articleId-28001.html Crossing over. During prophase I, nonsister chromatids of homologous chromosomes exchange pieces of genetic material. As a result, each homologue no longer entirely represents a single parent. Independent assortment of homologues. During metaphase I, tetrads of homologous chromosomes separate into chromosomes that go to opposite poles. Which chromosome goes to which pole depends upon the orientation of a tetrad at the metaphase plate. This orientation and subsequent separation is random for each tetrad. For some chromosome pairs, the chromosome that is mostly maternal may go to one pole, but for another pair, the maternal chromosome may go to the other pole.
Random joining of gametes. Which sperm fertilizes which egg is to a large degree a random event. In many cases, however, this event may be affected by the genetic composition of a gamete. For example, some sperm may be faster swimmers and have a better chance of fertilizing the egg. recombinationMorgellon's organism recombining with what it finds inside our bodies when it arrives. Mycoplasma, Lyme, Herpes virus, chicken pox virus (shingles) bacteria like borellia burgorferi, bartonella henslae, babseia, parasites, fungus (candida, fusarium), agrobacteria from plants, hepatitis, HIV ect... example: Morg org recombines with mycoplasma fermentans mycoplasma fermentans causes CFS, Fibomyalgia as well as many more illnesses. Morg triggers myco by recombining with it and triggering symptoms of CFS/Fibro like joint pain, brain fog, fatigue. All Morgellon's symptoms All Lyme symptoms All Chronic Fatigue Symptoms All Fibromyalgia symptoms..... symptoms overlap because morgellons is recombining with mycoplasmas, lyme, bacterias, viruses, parasites, fungus ect.... If Morgellon's is part prototheca, it is a plant. If we ingest agrobacterium and we now have part plant DNA (prototheca) due to horizontal gene transfer then viola'... for the first time in human history, we have patients testing positive for agrobacterium....because their DNA now contains plant genes/chromosomes. Perhaps Morgellon's is the male and all of the other organisms already inside of us are female...get the picture? reproduction through recombination. JMHumbleO aqt aqt Administrator
Posts: 4,723 Mar 22, 2009 at 2:07pm QuotePost by aqt on Mar 22, 2009 at 2:07pm trypanosoma Trypanosomes (kinetoplastids) are some of the most deadly organisms on Earth • causes sleeping sickness, leishmaniasis, and Chagas’ disease.
cyanobacteria Cyanobacteria were producing oxygen • at some point, some Eukarya incorporated proteobacteria that evolved into mitochondria—the endosymbiotic theory • Function of mitochondria initially may have been to detoxify O2 by reducing it to water - Later this became associated with ATP production
How Do Microbial Eukaryotes Reproduce? Most microbial eukaryotes have both sexual and asexual reproduction. Asexual processes: • Binary fission — equal splitting; mitosis followed by cytokinesis. • Multiple fission — splitting into more than two cells. • Budding — outgrowth of a new cell from the surface of an old cell • Spores — specialized cells that are capable of growing into a new individual.
Rhodophyta (red algae) • multicellular • most are marine, from shallow tide pools to deep sea • red color from photosynthetic pigment phycoerythrin
• can vary amounts of various photosynthetic pigments depending on light conditions – deeper water à more phycoerythrin à more red • Red algae are unique among protists • store photosynthates as “floridean starch” – small branched chains of ~15 glucoses • lack motile, flagellated cells • some produce mucilaginous polysaccharide – source of agar • Some secrete CaCO3 & contribute to coral reefs • some became secondary endosymbionts, giving rise to chloroplasts found in stramenopiles (e.g. diatoms, brown algae) Kinetoplastids • Kinetoplastids are unicellular, parasitic flagellates with a single, large mitochondrion. • The mitochondrion contains a kinetoplast, a unique structure that houses multiple, circular DNA molecules and proteins • Trypanosomes are human pathogens that cause sleeping sickness, leishmaniasis, Chagas’ disease, and East Coast fever • This group contains members formerly in the polypheletic Zoomastigophora Slime molds • There are two clades of slime molds. • All are motile, ingest food by endocytosis, and form spores on stalks called fruiting bodies • Slime molds are found in cool, moist habitats, primarily forests • Plasmodial (acellular) slime molds • During vegetative (feeding) stage they are multi-nucleate coenocytes with many diploid nuclei that streams over the substrate in a network of strands called a plasmodium • Formerly in phylum Myxomycota • Movement is by cytoplasmic streaming — outer cytoplasmic region becomes more fluid, and cytoplasm rushes in • Microfilaments and a contractile protein called myxomyosin interact to produce the streaming movement
• As it moves, the plasmodium engulfs food particles by endocytosis • If there is food, a plasmodium can grow indefinitely • When conditions become unfavorable, a resting form develops with hardened components, called a sclerotium. Becomes a plasmodium again when conditions are favorable • Alternatively, the plasmodium transforms into spore-bearing fruiting bodies • Diploid nuclei undergo meiosis, sporangia form at the tip of the stalk and haploid nuclei in the sporangia form spores • Cellular slime molds • Vegetative unit of cellular slime molds is an amoeboid cell • Myxamoebas have single haploid nucleus, engulf food by endocytosis, and reproduce by fission. • This stage persists if food is available. • When conditions become unfavorable, cells aggregate into a slug or pseudoplasmodium.
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Posts: 4,723 Mar 22, 2009 at 2:11pm QuotePost by aqt on Mar 22, 2009 at 2:11pm cyanobacteria-trypanosoma Plant-like enzymes and enzymes of possible cyanobacterial origin in Trypanosomatidae ... www.pnas.org/content/100/3/1067.full.pdf they figured this part out so they were able to fuse cyanobacteria with trypanosoma blue-green fresh water algae with a parasitic protozoa
to start with
Posts: 4,723 Mar 22, 2009 at 2:15pm QuotePost by aqt on Mar 22, 2009 at 2:15pm vibrio- quorum sensing and horizontal transfer of genes? NIH www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=398072 searched genesis vibrio like element aqt Administrator
Posts: 4,723 Mar 22, 2009 at 2:22pm QuotePost by aqt on Mar 22, 2009 at 2:22pm rhodophyta reflects red light and absorbs blue light creationwiki.org/Rhodophyta www.life.umd.edu/labs/delwiche/PSlife/lectures/Rhodophyta.html second link Light harvesting is very efficient, and red algae can live at tremendous depths. Cellulose fibrils embedded in an extensive gelatinous matrix Porphyra and Bangia have xylan fibrils rather than cellulose The gelatinous matrix is composed of a variety of sulphated galactose polymers wow
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Posts: 4,723 Mar 22, 2009 at 3:39pm QuotePost by aqt on Mar 22, 2009 at 3:39pm diptera- the fly tiny.cc/IchSP "timeless" gene from diptera?????? news.illinois.edu/scitips/03/1016timeless.html In 1998, scientists found the mammalian version of a gene, known as timeless, which in flies is crucial for the biological clock.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeless_(gene) drosophelia: small flies en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drosophila Last Edit: Mar 22, 2009 at 3:44pm by aqt aqt Administrator
Posts: 4,723 Mar 22, 2009 at 3:47pm QuotePost by aqt on Mar 22, 2009 at 3:47pm prototheca cloning www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=cloning+prototheca alot being done by cold springs harbor, NY did I already mention that one?...LOL aqt aqt
Posts: 4,723 Mar 22, 2009 at 3:51pm QuotePost by aqt on Mar 22, 2009 at 3:51pm translation from mold slime mold dictyostelium discoideum...for motility...transport tiny.cc/8aqyR Motile Activities of Dictyostelium discoideum Differ from those in Protista or Vertebrate Animal Cells aqt Administrator
Posts: 4,723 Mar 22, 2009 at 3:58pm QuotePost by aqt on Mar 22, 2009 at 3:58pm wild type vs mutated types dictyostelium discoideum We used the system to study motility and chemotaxis by a score of Dictyostelium discoideum wild-type and mutant strains, including "streamer" mutants which are generally regarded as being altered in chemotaxis jcb.rupress.org/cgi/content/abstract/108/3/973
wild type en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wild_type aqt Administrator
Mar 23, 2009 at 5:06pm QuotePost by aqt on Mar 23, 2009 at 5:06pm related to slime mold plasmodial mold The isolation of myxomyosin, an ATP-sensitive protein from the plasmodium of a myxomycete tiny.cc/62wg6
ATP sensitive adenosene triphosphate=energy-------OUR ENERGY this thing uses our own energy...ATP to fuel itself.... Last Edit: Mar 23, 2009 at 5:08pm by aqt aqt Administrator
Posts: 4,723 Mar 23, 2009 at 5:14pm QuotePost by aqt on Mar 23, 2009 at 5:14pm dictyostelids plasmodial slime molds www.mycologia.org/cgi/reprint/94/6/933.pdf aqt Administrator
Posts: 4,723 Mar 23, 2009 at 5:17pm QuotePost by aqt on Mar 23, 2009 at 5:17pm cyanobacteria part of base architecture of the morg org? pond scum
we're bloomin' alright(((sarcasm))) www.hc-sc.gc.ca/ewh-semt/pubs/water-eau/cyanobacter-eng.php
per tamtam quorum sensing- micro cystis- goo White fluffy floating material that constitutes congregation of a type cyanobacterium on the surface of water. It will unite in plaques and bloom giving off toxins?? brain fog anyone?? everyone???? Last Edit: Mar 23, 2009 at 5:33pm by aqt aqt Administrator
Posts: 4,723 Mar 23, 2009 at 5:20pm QuotePost by aqt on Mar 23, 2009 at 5:20pm trypanosoma en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trypanosoma In addition, two life cycle forms of Trypanosoma brucei are easy to culture and are genetically pliable.
pliable... gee, you don't say???(((sarcasm)))
http://www.morgboard.proboards.com/thread/26?page=2 Mar 23, 2009 at 5:37pm QuotePost by aqt on Mar 23, 2009 at 5:37pm by tamtam on Tue Nov 22, 2005 5:48 pm Anxiety may heighten the ability to observe: a form of fixation. If this includes disturbing sensory perceptions in the form of recurrent irritation or pain a most threatening situation comes into existence as consult for advise results in a form of ex-communication. The novel disease that at this moment affects an unprecedented number of people can be compared with the history of Helicobacter Pylori.
Again: A pathogen in the form of a modified micro organism is the cause of a not understood systemic disease that can express itself in the form of sensing polymer (protein) like filaments that e.g grow in and on the skin. It are quorum sensing micro organisms that go dormant. Quorum sensing is a stem cell like property. Such fibers are dominant gene expression (variant) of a fusion between a cyanobacterium and a mayor parasitic protozoa. A multiple set dominant gene expression can be found in multiple culture of one strain. Reject that relates to plant and insect cell technology as well as mammal and bird like expressions have been recorded. The organism represents a stray target of experimental biology class 3.tamtam Coral
Posts: 406 Joined: Wed Oct 26, 2005 12:56 pm www.biology-online.org/biology-forum/about1958-144.html aqt Administrator
Posts: 4,723 Mar 24, 2009 at 5:02am QuotePost by aqt on Mar 24, 2009 at 5:02am Transforming cyanobacteria into bioreporters of biological relevance
Posts: 4,723 Mar 24, 2009 at 5:06am QuotePost by aqt on Mar 24, 2009 at 5:06am engineered microorganisms www.faqs.org/patents/app/20080293101 aqt Administrator
Posts: 4,723 Mar 24, 2009 at 5:07am QuotePost by aqt on Mar 24, 2009 at 5:07am recombinant organism www.webref.org/biotechnology/r/recombinant_organism.htm An organism in which the DNA has been made by joining together segments of DNA using the techniques of genetic modification described in Directive 90\220\EEC playing God shame on them aqt Administrator
Posts: 4,723 Mar 24, 2009 at 5:12am QuotePost by aqt on Mar 24, 2009 at 5:12am recombinant proteins sciencelinks.jp/j-east/article/200501/000020050104A0556317.php
a result of recombinant organisms? could these be the fibers? proteins....fake fibers caused by fake organism? aqt Administrator
Posts: 4,723 Mar 24, 2009 at 5:16am QuotePost by aqt on Mar 24, 2009 at 5:16am they did this in 73???????? Scientists successfully create a recombinant organism for the first time by transferring viral DNA into a bacterium. The biotechnology revolution arrives. tiny.cc/99Yrh
did they transfer part of the DNA from trypanosoma into cyanobacteria...then from there add bits from things like lepidoptera, diptera, vibrio, dictyostelium discoideum, prototheca, stem cells ect??? My guess is that the morgs is a recombinant organism unlike anything the world has ever witnessed since the dawn of existence. aqt Administrator
Posts: 4,723 Mar 24, 2009 at 5:18am QuotePost by aqt on Mar 24, 2009 at 5:18am proteins lethal to insects? what would it do to us? duh! www.freepatentsonline.com/7364728.html aqt Administrator
Posts: 4,723 Mar 24, 2009 at 5:20am QuotePost by aqt on Mar 24, 2009 at 5:20am POLYESTER IN BACTERIA www.ingentaconnect.com/content/els/01413910/1998/00000059/00000001/art00173 I'll bet the fibers protruding form the organism found on my bathroom floor were polyester/nylon they weren't cotton, that's for sure. more like a plastic/fake material....not organic. aqt aqt Administrator
Posts: 4,723 Mar 24, 2009 at 5:22am QuotePost by aqt on Mar 24, 2009 at 5:22am for the record Results 1 - 10 of about 969,000 for recombinant organism. (0.05 seconds) almost a million good ol' google www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=recombinant+organism&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq= aqt Administrator
Posts: 4,723 Mar 24, 2009 at 5:37am QuotePost by aqt on Mar 24, 2009 at 5:37am Recombinant DNA is a form of synthetic DNA thereby combining DNA sequences that would not normally occur together. In terms of genetic modification, recombinant DNA is produced through the addition of relevant DNA into an existing organismal genome, such as the plasmid of bacteria, to code for or alter different traits for a specific purpose, such as immunity. It differs from genetic recombination, in that it does not occur through processes within the cell or ribosome, but is exclusively engineered. Recombinant protein is protein that is derived from recombinant DNA. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recombinant_DNA
Posts: 4,723 Mar 24, 2009 at 5:41am QuotePost by aqt on Mar 24, 2009 at 5:41am reverse transcriptase en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_transcriptase well studied HIV no kidding, hu. aqt aqt Administrator
Posts: 4,723 Mar 24, 2009 at 5:56am QuotePost by aqt on Mar 24, 2009 at 5:56am D- Slender, long crystal-like structures with rod-shaped cells identified as cyanobacteria;
www.morgellons.org/Phase%201%20Figure%208.htm idenitified as cyanobacteria? we are on our way aqt aqt Administrator
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The ability of cyanobacteria to perform oxygenic photosynthesis is thought to have converted the early reducing atmosphere into an oxidizing one, which dramatically changed the composition of life forms on Earth by provoking an explosion of biodiversity and leading to the near-extinction of oxygenintolerant organisms. Chloroplasts in plants and eukaryotic algae have evolved from cyanobacteria via endosymbiosis. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyanobacteria been here since the beginning of time? converted the atmosphere? changed composition of life forms on Earth? explosion of biodiversity? near extinction of oxygen-intolerant species? pretty tough stuff no wonder they used it as part of the base aqt aqt Administrator
Posts: 4,723 Mar 24, 2009 at 6:12am QuotePost by aqt on Mar 24, 2009 at 6:12am The first cyanobacteria (Cyanophyta) appear in fossils about 2.8 billion years old, and created the opportunity for evolution of more complex oxygen-reliant organisms. They have different biochemistry than Archaebacteria and were the first dominant organisms to use oxygenic photosynthesis. Their photosystem splits water and uses its electrons and protons to drive photosynthesis. As a byproduct of this new reaction system, oxygen gas (O2) was produced in abundance for the first time. This was a fundamental change in the Earth’s atmosphere, and its impact was observed in all surface layers. As cyanobacteria increased the levels of oxygen in the atmosphere, the iron in surface sediments was oxidized into red ferric oxide. aqt Administrator
Posts: 4,723 Mar 24, 2010 at 1:50pm QuotePost by aqt on Mar 24, 2010 at 1:50pm
I knew I remembered doing a thread like this one...found it!! aqt beammeup Senior Member
Posts: 281 Mar 24, 2010 at 4:43pm QuotePost by beammeup on Mar 24, 2010 at 4:43pm Aqt Where is the very first video they did and where did all the listings of companies who visited the site go. First video very important, can't find anywhere! Removed right before obama care??? beammeup skyship Top Member
Posts: 7,078 Mar 24, 2010 at 7:40pm QuotePost by skyship on Mar 24, 2010 at 7:40pm I am trying to remember what year that was done. The original has been taken down. I am trying to remember it. Involved a conference in Bern Sw. Our cdc was there. Seems something was stolen, but do not know what year. I do know who was head of cdc then, though or who had access to the the petri dish. The deeds were done and now the whole medical information system is now controlled by the universal health folks. Not just American. Definetely a New dawning, new day of ??????? They pushed for the medical id or rfid tag, both sides did, and the dna banks are already in existence, they have our numbers and our genetics and our medical histories already. Proof is out there.
But, Morgies have something and I believe we are a select group. We're special, there are many more like us and they are okay, because they still believe. I think we are caught in the crossfire, yet we are wood, we can burn, but it can't. little metaphor there. skyship
Posts: 4,723 Oct 1, 2012 at 5:30pm QuotePost by aqt on Oct 1, 2012 at 5:30pm I've been looking for this for a while,,,, found it! let's review.... Also: (11 pages) http://www.morgboard.proboards.com/thread/503 http://www.indiadivine.org/audarya/ayurveda-health-wellbeing/1033319-video-morgellonssilentsuperbug-com.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m50K9WmBWZo (traitorsbeware) https://www.facebook.com/theFOLDnews/posts/549854765058686
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http://www.crossinglines.net/ All communications with Daniel. (TamTam) be sure to also read pages 2, 3, 4 click here to view his video " per vaneeden " Wednesday, October 12, 2005 9:45 AM Fiber disease/ Mission
Hello, I understand that You reside in a hostel and then contract this disease. Could You be so kind to let me know if this was in Mission? By the way; I have exclusive information that will be published soon. The European Center for Disease Control in Solna has confirmed that my study represents identification of a Mayor Potential threat. Because I see You are loaded with this element and have done a perfect job with registering the artifacts, one of Your photographs shows a variant series (wing pattern) spots of a butterfly. have You noticed? I think You are interesting to ask to get involved with a mayor publication. This publication is a video assay of about 37 minutes that will show the set responsible micro organisms that subsequently go into a dormant stage resembling a protein. Its related to what You call its
apoptotic pathway. The organism is a stray (non disclosed) target of a proteome research center. The fact that so little official reaction exist is because the facts will have a tremendous effect on the economy; in particular to existing policy in relation to bio technology. However, Please be so kind to let me know the location and if You like to get involved.
Sincerely, P. D. F Van Eeden
" Southcity " Wednesday, October 12, 2005 12:15 PM Fiber disease/ Mission Hello and thanks for the letter. Ok first of all it seems I already am involved and to be frank I'm not particularly happy about it. 2nd, if indeed you are aware of this pathogen and understand the horror of not knowing what it is, on top of the symptoms associated with it, then hopefully you will also understand my lack of trust toward you and your true intentions with my " help " to you and your study. Who are you? What are your credentials? As I was saying if you understand the trials associated with this pathogen then you can understand my impatience when I am told by a stranger that they are going to be publishing a major article with global economic ramifications and yet offers me nothing as far as information so I can deal with the current problem at hand and that is getting this crap out of my life and getting back to normal.. If you have more info then please share it.... If I come to feel that you are a person of integrity and are trustworthy I will help as much as you could hope for. if not then I ask you to not contact me. My problem is, that My girlfriend and myself have not seen her 6yr old son now for 7 months out of fear of giving it to him. This is the only problem I am capable of focusing on now. Please help me by giving me information to deal with this problem at hand and then I will answer your questions.
If indeed you are simply a researcher out to publish a study then I am sorry for my lack of patience and my distrust of anyone whom claims to understand this bug.;. I will not share anything with any body or list anything on my site that you wish to remain secret for the time being ... Your help will be appreciated beyond words...
Oct 26 2005 Well South City, How are You, Thank You for Your kind response. Advise with this particular matter is not easy. Its protothecosis like character and it mayor parasitic protozoa gene in-put would make amphotericine B and amikacine a rational choice as long as this would include topical treatment of skin and nasal cavity. A drive to Mexico could provide you this type experimental therapy. Although the agent slowly will disseminate in skin (by lesions that relapse) its main source is not skin. A set commensal resembling micro organisms is responsible for infection. Good hygiene is a important since bacterial load will increase during the day. Sincerely, per Daniel
Oct 26 2005 Hello and thank you for the reply, I'm not quite sure where you mean by " mission " . Perhaps mission district in san Francisco?. That answer would be no. I acquired this while staying in a hotel in South San Francisco. I worked in the bay area during the week. Extended hotel visits were a weekly event for me. While staying there I was severely attacked and
bitten by bed bugs and that's when the nightmare with this began. this was around January of 2002.
I'd like to know more about your study and its coming release. How is it that the powers that be are allowing you to publish? When will it be published and what would be expected from me if I agreed to participate? What should I expect for participating? Were you a part of this experiment, or in the class, or perhaps the professor? if not, how is it that you came to know so much about it? What is the prognosis for the future of those with it? So many questions and I'll await your reply concerning participation in your video and paper. What are your credentials by the way? Unless a proxy is used I see that you are from the Netherlands. Is this where the class was held? so many questions... thanks for the reply once again Southcity
October 29 2005 South City, Well, Indeed location is correct. Please stop thinking in powers. Fact is that people who know what this element does represent will not let the public know, because international upheaval will be the result, as well politically, economically as what concerns the opinion of the general public. You are infected with a stray target that has evolved into an occult acting pathogen. I have been interviewed by KTVU in May, but already during the interview J. Fowler let me know that he would not broadcast immediately. August 24 I send more disturbing video footage to CDC, ECDC and Interpol in France.
ECDC let me immediately know that I have identified a mayor potential threat. So Europe is on my side since ECDC represents all European nations. KTVU and many mayor world broadcasters know about this development. However, What I seek is an American who would like to do two things. 1/ Make a comprehensive video tape available on the internet. (I will provide You with a DVD) 2/ Go to court and ask an American Judge for an inquiry about how it is possible that CDC does nothing to inform the public about the presence of this pathogen under the U.S. c.q global population. (I will provide you a copy of the ECDC letter) As You will understand things are very political. If You are concerned for the future of Your family I would like to request You to consider my proposal. The action should be kept transparent and motivated by a true democratic standpoint. Indeed there is reason why I need a U.S base for coordinated action. If You like I will contact You by telephone to discuss the matter. I also can provide You my number but that is a cellular one and expensive. There are no powers, there is only an opportunistic kept situation and people should start to distantiate themselves from this.
Sincerely Yours, Per Daniel
Editor's Note. Because of the sound logic of these requests, I agreed to become involved with this person. I set up www.crossinglines.net and received the first of two DVD's. This first DVD was approximately 4 minutes long and was very interesting because it shows with exceptional clarity and detail, the things I have been seeing during my battle with this illness. The images to this day are still without comparison to any I have taken or seen elsewhere, but the words and scientific jargon accompanying these images is confusing, contradicting, and overall rejected by the scientists I have sought opinions from. So, without doubt, he has captured images of the
things I had associated with this illness with fantastic quality, but the rest of the presentation falls short of any understandable meaning. I addressed these issues, as you will read in the next few pages. By the time the second DVD arrived, I had developed serious reservations concerning Per Daniel simply because of his methods of giving information out in bits and pieces. I stated that this was ridiculous and would only serve in creating an atmosphere of distrust and take away credibility. He answered again with logic and with an air of confidence which left me feeling that this person was much more knowledgeable of the way this type of disclosure should happen, so I continued to promote his video despite the questions it raised and also left unanswered. I also made contact with a relative of a district judge whom would grant a private counsel to view and discuss the letter that Per Daniel claims to possess. I informed him of this but to date has not produced a copy of this letter from the ECDC. Once again red flags went up in my mind, but you see, there still has been NO other explanations from anyone, anywhere, as to what this is we are infected by. Let alone the fact the macroscopic images he presents are without question, the clearest, and most detailed shots of exactly the same things I have seen myself. Bear in mind that I am in California and they in Europe. So as you see this is a very big issue. Because of this fact, Per Daniel continues to receive my cautious and somewhat limited support and effort to promote his work.
Go to page 2 of communications with Per Daniel (tamtam) http://www.crossinglines.net/page_2_...ns_with_pe.htm be sure to also read pages 2, 3, 4 http://lymebook.com/vogan-blog/ http://www.crossinglines.net/page_2_of_communications_with_pe.htm http://lymebusters.proboards.com/thread/3173
http://www.crossinglines.net/page_2_of_communications_with_pe.htm http://web.archive.org/web/20070921010520/http://crossinglines.net/page_2_of_communications_with _pe.htm Page 2 of communications with Per Daniel (tamtam)
-----Original Message----From: per vaneeden [mailto:email@example.com] Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 9:32 AM To: firstname.lastname@example.org Subject: Step ways,
Hello , If You wonder why I go step for step? Fact is that to release all video footage would be too confronting for most people. To distract the thing and bring the matter as "pure micro biology" is a strategy to avoid unbelief and anxiety. The disc contains Lepidoptera related variant and not mammal and bird like gene expressions. Just try to have it on the net one way or the other. If You can decide to start a new web site we could suggest a fit name. To decide to include your collection registration of lesions could result in a reference page for the medic and micro biologists. Think about it. Two reasons exist for choosing the U.S as base. First because the matter finely may turn political. On the end of the intended series I would like to add explanation about the origin of this modified micro organism. This could have consequences for at least one but maybe a few more administrations. Understand that many nations work on non disclosed targets in C3 environment and that a "convenient" diplomatic protocol exist how to handle this type situation. Its all about statistical significance and not about a relatively small number symptomatic people and the fact that people disappear in statistic by way of unrelated cause of death(...) This particular target is developed in the early seventies and accidentally released (and covered up) in the early eighties. Many people must have died from this element in interaction with other type disease (e.g. nosocomial infection and risk group) However, Another reason is that the in the U.S no costs exist for local connection with a server To be 24 hours connected in Europe is costly and I do not have internet connection. Remember also that to have this target in pure culture means that almost no commercial enterprise could start to work on it except if they have a C3 permit. Its an experimental target from the past that was intended for medical, industrial and military spin off/ purpose. Artificial skin, cancer and bio sensor related (micro flight) as
far as I can deduct. Just get it to the public and count how much connections you establish. Its a try out. No conflict of interest exist. Sincerely, Per Daniel
-----Original Message----From: per vaneeden [mailto:email@example.com] Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 12:42 PM To: firstname.lastname@example.org Subject: RE: Hi , Hello how are You, I read your e-mail and I had to laugh because University is of course linked to me. You do a good job in watching consumer behavior. I know that what You write could be true but there are many obstacles. If You think that matter like this will be broadcast you may be surprised that the world is not as democratic as it should be. A few months ago I send some footage to Discovery but it did not yield a response. Other mayor Press houses also did not react- even with ECDC response as referral. Today etiologist advise what type matter can be broadcast. Its all about power that relates to economic benefit- thus politics. A good example is KTVU. Fowler start the story but after my revelation he sticks comfortably with the group "heroic' medics that unite in Morgellons. I fax him copy of ECDC but also this was not enough for him to broadcast at least "a little more" Fact is that John is an ex-military and depends on stories about novelties and contacts in the bio-tech valley. To break the news with facts like this may finally turn out impossible because nobody will let You. Things like this should not bug the public. My research indeed could yield the conclusion that a comfortable pact exist between institution, industry and military - not to forget media broadcaster.. And this pact is not based on conspiracy but simply on consensus. What is made official and will be made official in the near future will not emphasize the facts and if it does; facts will be diluted, dosed and accompanied by "functional" controversy. Facts that can easily be gathered from my research are so confronting that nobody from the medical community dares to associate with it- simply out of fear for career damage and/ or ex- communication that for sure will result in future loss of capital gain. (Dr Martin is a revolution on its own/ Indeed viral factors (plasmids) next to DNA mimicking protein seems to be involved but this constitutes not the main body of this infectious agent) The type discovery I have done simply will not easily reach the public; facts will be evaluated, studied
and kept inconclusive behind closed doors. If conclusions are drawn it will result in data that in turn will be sold to interested parties in the Industry. Only if mayor capital gain becomes a factor the consumer will be informed how bad they suffer. That's another ten years to go for the people that are seriously affected. Everything at this moment is proteome and genome related from the paint on the door to medicine to weapon to food on your table. Another fact is that the diverse set commensal resembling bacteria (that represent one base element) for sure are known and studied separate. (Cornell reference) The successful isolation of this element has also the potential to reveal that microbial resistance (antibiotic resistance) significantly relates to experimental research done by C3; thus governmental subsidized Institutes. If such institutes are privatized (e.g Harvard University) or not - does not matter. If consistent, it also may reveal that hospital acquired infections are product of the same "grand medical institute" that tries to eradicate this type infection. Degenerative disease is from our time. In fact successful exploitation of an otherwise "relatively healthy body" seems to have become popular. To cure is not profitable. To suppress (to sell medicine over and over again) has become standard treatment. The Industry( in general) has gained absolute status. A feat we remember from the oil and tobacco Industry in the near past. Well ,
If You think You can stimulate to gain momentum with the facts, go ahead. The only thing that should be done to get things absolute would be to delegate the (screening) to a major company. No institute will help with this unless they become partner. But again, a research lab will never step forward to disclose (confirm). Facts will be commercialized and kept inconclusive as long as possible. Screening will only add more information to the present fact that quorum sensing made bacteria have gained the ability to grow multi cellular organisms including mammal and bird like expression. Known names can than be added to the set. Lepidoptera is only one dominant gene in-put/ out -put of this particular strain. What you see on the DVD are variant. Again, I am not trained as micro- biologist, but I have official endorsement by ECDC that I have identified a mayor potential threat. Research has been done in the staff laboratory of the , The Netherlands. Registered means (property of the University) have been used and this includes meta data to know: Analysis Software/ Olympus/ Zeiss trinocular and stereo microscopes/ Sony and Color view 8 video tube. Meta data is incorporated in all still images, but not HDV registration. About 8000 stills and 25 hours HDV television has been collected. A comprehensive 37 minute video production shows where it is all about but is too difficult for the main public and too superficial for the specialist. Between the responsible Institute in the Netherlands and U.S military base exist official contact since 2000. I hope the U.S is not involved. Another fact is that a similar strain may be around. In relation to MRSA, Gerberding (CDC) let Europe know that a similar super bug will cross the
Atlantic. U.S MRSA and the "Dutch super bug" (another MRSA strain) seem to have acquired a stolen gene according to officials. I think my research has the potential to become conclusive also what concerns existing MRSA controversy. MRSA is very sensible for essential oils (Canada research) and garlic (Swiss research about quorum sensing) MRSA growth is also inhibited on copper and brass. This sensibility pattern can be compared with this cyanobacterium based agent. Because a story on your page referred to Germany and fourteen years ago, I am doubtfully sure that involvement of the U.S is maybe not the case. However, flowering cyanobacteria have a red alert in the U.S.A and a sand storm like phenomenon described by another person on your site resembles exactly the calamity that happened in 1980 in direct vicinity of this C3 applying lab. Bio mass associated with this 1980 out-break swept into the North Sea after pestering one more village down the river. Press coverage was almost absent. In 2004 a PhD dermatology made the statement that this particular out break later contaminated the whole country. Germany borders the Netherlands. Since commensal resembling bacteria are actively produced and re-combined on a cyanobacterial mold (matrix) as well as in giant cell and have kept the ability to reconstitute the cycle trough fission. A mayor global contamination may have taken place. A contamination that at this moment in time must involve a significant percentage of the human population. Because it is a slow incubating- and momentum bound element- infection with this element has a broad expression pattern to know: acute, persisting and latent. Since all elements differentiate. Also a slow build up of slow acting expressions may take place. This represents its systemic effect on vital tissuein time. BMAA like, thus not excluded is involvement of brain. Today this Institute makes the statement that they are proud to serve humanity. Sincerely, Per Daniel
-----Original Message----From: per vaneeden [mailto:email@example.com] Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 5:01 AM To: firstname.lastname@example.org Subject: , Hello again, I thought to have send you explanation comprising at least one full page but this must have slipped into the air. I will not easily decide about getting all information out at once since this is also a blue print for a diagnostic test. However, if you get a web site up I will provide you with a more comprehensive video. Do not use the one You have at this moment. I will change nucleate in nucleated and mimic in mimick etc.
If You have a case in court I will provide You with a copy of ECDC. You always can ask Fowler to confirm in advance. Remember that CDC always can make the statement that there is yet no epidemiological link established. I have send to CDC the same footage as ECDC and the protocol should be the same. G.P could already have been instructed to give extra attention to people with this type symptoms. Its as political as can be. I work on a contact in New York that is one of the number ones about health related topic. Just let me know what name You like to give this site. Quorum sensing is maybe to far from the general public. Sincerely, Per Daniel
-----Original Message----From: per vaneeden [mailto:email@example.com] Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 10:57 AM To: firstname.lastname@example.org Subject: Hello Hello , I see You brought the video to the public. I have not been able to download it. Its not exactly the way of presentation I had in mind but I hope You will count the number of visits. The rest of the footage will maybe be released by a U.S broadcaster. Do not forget that more than one strain could be around. The concept is very potential in every respect. It is unlikely that the U.S government does not know what is going on. Fact is that a multi million dollar take over between the US and the Netherlands has crashed on October 17th. A company that collects data about the use of medicine in the U.S.A would be acquired by a Dutch group. To collect this type data is more direct than epidemiological links drawn from e. g hospital visits. A connection with my revelation to mayor press houses and monitoring institutes is not excluded. The Dutch agreed to pay an enormous sum money because the contracts had already been signed. However, I hope sufficient attention for this developing story will become fact. Sincerely, Per Daniel
-----Original Message----From: perdaniel bellvaneeden [mailto:email@example.com] Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 6:57 AM To: firstname.lastname@example.org Subject:
Hello , I read Your e-mail and I get the impression that You expect too much of it all. Things go slow and my efforts to reach the main broadcasters predates my request for participation- as proposed. New York is very important and it will be very difficult to get things out. But I will. It is You who gets drunk with the idea that you can benefit from this. The people that benefit are the ones that already are known to be the true earners. They have the structure and the capital and the direct interest. And You will have to pay with Your health if this thing is not solved very soon by a big army of scientists. Its a systemic acting pathogen that will infest and adapt to all type tissue and on strong suspicion of: including eye and brain: although it is an opportunistic acting agent and very slow. Please remember that I seek an American citizen to go to court. I would put my trust in you but I think you should organize this type action with a few more. It means sharing initial costs and general organization. Any type media attention should already be focused before this type action. I do not keep U.S citizenship. Chekhov writes that if in a second act a gun shot is heard, You have to show the gun in the first. You can not hope for anything if there is no market present to sell your information to. The money that is involved to get the DVD public you can get from me. What I share public is sharing without interest. All I show is consistent and represents the thing You suffer from. Had You any idea before my contribution? If You think you know enough by now just wait for the response of the institutionalized world. They will let you without clue. All is about regulation thus control. People simply disappear in the statistic.
What You are facing is methodology and effect. Twenty or thirty year science that focused on effects instead of cause. I hope You will finally conclude that it is more functional to explain things different than You do now. You have my support and You will keep on receiving this whatever You decide. Sincerely, Per Daniel
-----Original Message----From: perdaniel bellvaneeden [mailto:email@example.com] Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 9:59 AM To: firstname.lastname@example.org Subject:
Hello , You do what You are good in and this can be the receipt. Listen, I will put together - more disturbing- video footage. Its about what CDC/ECDC and Interpol have received. You should let me know how much maximum time can be put on the web. Also I will add "webmaster Southcity" and again email@example.com as reference. Also I hope You can decide not to take away footage in the form of dermatological significant lesions. Its a necessary context and all will function as a boost. Let me explain a bit more. Lesions that are big and ulcerous are less important than the small red ones, Its the insect bite lesion that indicates bacterial infection and will have all the interest of dermatologist. As you may notice things look different and confusing but all is rather consistent. You don't have to worry about the veracity of my findings, this is it, but maybe a similar, more strong or more weakened strain hits the U.S. Also I think that what hits the U.S is a U.S manufactured target and this explains why things are kept quiet to the bone. Its a concept target. I am doubtfully sure that also an MRSA link will be established. Indeed a thorough screening is mandatory but this is a multi disciplinary thing and You need a big research budget to cover all its aspects. Dr. Schwartz confirms by trial and error and I have full prove of many of its aspects. They understand that I have the target in culture and that I am able to make consistent observations. The only thing I can do is to get attention focused and as it seems this is going to work out slowly but
sure. Hope You continue to enjoy the cooperation and if You do not expect to much of it, the opposite will definitely be the case. To keep things a bit mysterious will only add to to peoples curiosity. Doctors are a bit like policeman, they are an extension of government and do not like to be put out of business (power) Also I can assure You that this infectious agent is a rather slow but a dangerous one and all will become topic number one. I will continue with giving some more hints on biology online. Let me know if seven to ten minutes is possible. Sincerely, Per Daniel
http://crossinglines.net/page_3_of_communications_with_pe.htm http://web.archive.org/web/20070911134923/http://crossinglines.net/page_3_of_communications_with _pe.htm Page 3 of communications with Per Daniel (tamtam) -----Original Message----From: perdaniel bellvaneeden [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org] Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 9:59 AM To: Subject:
Hello, Listen, I will put together - more disturbing- video footage. Its about what CDC/ECDC and Interpol have received. You should let me know how much maximum time can be put on the web. Also I will add "webmaster Southcity" and again email@example.com as reference. Also I hope You can decide not to take away footage in the form of dermatological significant lesions. Its a necessary context and all will function as a boost. Let me explain a bit more. Lesions that are big and ulcerous are less important than the small red ones, Its the insect bite lesion that indicates bacterial infection and will have all the interest of dermatologist. As you may notice things look different and confusing but all is rather consistent. You don't have to worry about the veracity of my findings, this is it, but maybe a similar, more strong or more weakened strain hits the U.S. Also I think that what hits the U.S is a U.S manufactured target and this explains why things are kept quiet to the bone. Its a concept target. I am doubtfully sure that also an MRSA link will be established. Indeed a thorough screening is mandatory but this is a multi disciplinary thing and You need a big research budget to cover all its aspects. Dr. Schwartz confirms by trial and error and I have full prove of many of its aspects. They understand that I have the target in culture and that I am able to make consistent observations. The only thing I can do is to get attention focused and as it seems this is going to work out slowly but sure. Hope You continue to enjoy the cooperation and if You do not expect to much of it,the opposite will definitely be the case. To keep things a bit mysterious will only add to to peoples curiosity. Doctors are a bit like policeman they are an extention of government and do not like to be put out of business (power) Also I can assure You that this infectious agent is a rather slow but a dangerous one and all will
become topic number one. I will continue with giving some more hints on biology online. Let me know if seven to ten minutes is possible. Sincerely, Per Daniel
-----Original Message----From: per vaneeden [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org] Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 8:33 AM To: email@example.com Subject: Watch Your explanation!
Hello, I read Your response and I would like to ad that it is not interesting at all to start to explain about this particular calamity. At this moment in time a conservative and "insulted type" explanation is the best. "Could a foreign nation be involved?" "A similar thing must have happened on our side!" Remember; People do not like to give support to activist or reactionary opinion; before you know You end up as a conspiracy activist. Your questioning: where are the monitors! just works fine and is neutral. Your explanation of a possible connection with the Netherlands will never work out and only diminishes the value of the research. My advise to You is: Just stay as neutral as the Swiss are. The Dutch and the U.S are definitely one and if the Dutch have made a mistake (for sure they have) that is not known to the U.S, only ambassadors will take up this matter. Its a military related issue of high value and of international character. "With enough value to be defended by many parties" Also I would like to advise You to keep autonomy guaranteed Best is to guide the people in a most neutral way to click the video. Only a video link with that already existing introduction is more than fine. Its the medic, scientist, journalist and people that don't want this to happen that must do the job. Not You! Keep up the good spirit! Sincerely Per Daniel
http://lymebusters.proboards.com/thread/3173 critical thought concerning the CDC's efforts « Prev123Next » southcity Full Member
Posts: 185 Jul 29, 2006 at 5:48pm QuotePost by southcity on Jul 29, 2006 at 5:48pm Ok read this first.
Posted Friday, Jul. 28, 2006 Dr. Gregory Smith wants people to know it's not all in his head. According to the Gainesville, Ga., pediatrician, white fibers have been burrowing into his skin for the past two years, making him feel like he's under constant bombardment from insects or cactus needles. Shine a black light on these fibers and they'll fluoresce blue, he says, just like something you'd see in The Twilight Zone. He describes looking into the mirror one night, only to see one burrow down into his eye. "Yes ma'am, I was a little bit distraught," recalls Smith, 58, who says he can no longer work because his mysterious ailment has also robbed him of his memory and neurological function. "I tried to grab a hold of it with tweezers and it would not come out. It was quite painful, so I threw up my hands and went to the Emergency Room with my wife." For Smith, and some 4,000 people across the nation who claim to suffer from similar symptoms, it's the reaching out that has been problematic. The disease, called Morgellons after a reference in a 1674 medical paper, isn't officially recognized by the medical community. Some have suggested that it is a hoax, even a viral marketing campaign for a sci-fi movie. But sufferers say it's real and that there have been a growing number of cases across the nation of people with these painful fibers, skin lesions, crippling fatigue and memory loss. No one knows what causes Morgellons and no one knows how to cure it. But Smith and his fellow sufferers are itching for answers. That's why they've pressured the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) to assemble a team of scientists who will determine whether this disease is in fact for real. The 13-member team is expected to share their findings within the next two months. "We're not ready to concede there's a new disease," says CDC spokesman Dan Rutz. "But the volume of concern has stepped up because a lot of people are writing or calling their congressmen about it because they're frustrated that there's been no organized way to deal with their suffering." But even with CDC involvement, Morgellons sufferers like Smith are still frustrated that they haven't been asked for their input. Smith, for his part, says he has offered to ship his own properly prepared Morgellons specimens to the CDC for review, but claims the agency "blew it off." And the South Carolina-based Morgellons Research Foundation volunteered to share research that an Oklahoma State University professor has done on the disease — some of it suggesting it could be contagious — but
they say they were rebuffed as well. The CDC has said that it would conduct its own research first, then vet the findings with outside scientists. In the meantime, Smith says he's just trying to keep up with the simple things in life. Unable to practice medicine for the past year because of neurological and cognitive problems he believes are a result of the disease, he says he is overwhelmed by mundane tasks like housework or hobbies like working in the yard. "From day to day, I can't predict how I'll feel," he says. "It's understandable why many people are skeptical about this illness. The symptoms are so unusual that they just don't make any sense. I even question my own sanity from time to time. But if this is all psychiatric, please give me something to make it go away."
OK Am I the only one that see's red flags all over the place here?? Here are my thoughts on this.
Ok RED FLAGS flying up all over the place. If you read the attached letter that Gerberding sent to senator graham, she stated that the cdc encourages samples taken properly and stored under correct conditions. Notice that this letter is at least one and a half years old. That is how long I have had the copy for. So it is possibly considerably older. They encouraged this and stated that none had been recieved. Close to 2 years later and after contact by god only knows how many sufferers, the cdc is finally set to launch a study. Good news to sufferers but truly a strong indication of sloppy oversight of the publics health and well being on the part of the cdc. RED FLAG I mean really, what the hell have they been doing this whole time except scaring the hell out of us all with bird flu, bird flu. 24/7 bird flu and it has not even been detected in the states yet. RED FLAG People from all fifty states have contacted them about an illness that IS HERE NOW, FOR MORE THAN 2YEARS!!!!!! AND THEY ARE JUST NOW STARTING A STUDY??????!!!!!! BRIGHT RED FLAG The appointment choice of one of CDC's best, most seasoned and experienced information specialists, Dan Rutz, to be the Media contact about this illness, is a big indicator of a way bigger story than the appointment of a lower level, less experienced info specialists would have sent. RED FLAG There is something very very wrong with this picture, and because of this history i fail to be to encouraged by this study with already stated goals by Dan Rutz as "We really need to debunk this." BIG RED FLAG This study group began to appear to be nothing but lip service the minute he made this statement. Since the announcement of this study beginning, NOT ONE of the long time infected people, to my knowledge and inquiries, have been contacted by the CDC. With who and how does this group from the cdc propose to start this study. RED FLAG NOW we have a physician and a state university offering, infact pleading with the CDC to accept their samples and findings gathered to date. These findings and samples offered are KEY INFORMATION for any investigative effort and could only help in them being able to make headway in the investigation that much faster. WHAT THE HELL!!! THEY WILL NOT ACCEPT THESE SAMPLES
AND STUDY FINDINGS!!!!!!!! HOW SERIOUSLY ARE THEY TAKING THIS STUDY???? it appears they are not and the meter on my BULLSHIT detector has maxed out. RED FLAGS ALL OVER THE PLACE.
The complete reverse of statements made by gerberding in the attached letter is as close to a conclusive indication of this study effort being nothing but lip service. Public relations on the part of the cdc and because of these items, i find little to be encouraged by from the launch of this study. My prediction is the cdc will come away without any conclusive proof of this illnesses existence. There are other things pointing in this direction. such as this from the round table discussion group www.roundtablegroup.com/speakersbureau/talk.cfm?talkID=1380 (By the way, ask this group who their expert speaker is on morgellons. Maybe if more of us ask them they will provide and answer.) "Morgellons Disease- An Emerging Public Health Threat? Learning Outcomes: 1) raise awareness of Morgellons Disease 2) highlight importance of research funds 3) warn about impact on the local and larger economies 4) implications for HMOs and insurers." RED FLAGS ABOUND Anyone like to wager on an inconclusive outcome of this study? All indications are that the CDC is just going through the motions on an already decided outcome.
cdc01.jpg "First they ignore you... Then they laugh at you... Then they fight you... Then you win." -Mahatma Gandhi southcity Full Member
Posts: 185 Jul 29, 2006 at 6:01pm QuotePost by southcity on Jul 29, 2006 at 6:01pm sorry to view the CDC's letter follow this link. www.crossinglines.net/CDC%20letter%20to %20Senator%20Graham.htm "First they ignore you... Then they laugh at you... Then they fight you... Then you win." -Mahatma Gandhi janedough Ultimate Member
Jul 29, 2006 at 6:59pm QuotePost by janedough on Jul 29, 2006 at 6:59pm I don't understand. SC, what is this site, what does this mean? How did you find this? THE TRUTH IS THE GREATEST ENEMY OF THE STATE." -- Joseph Goebbels, German Minister of Propaganda, 1933-1945 H Senior Member
Posts: 437 Jul 29, 2006 at 8:14pm QuotePost by H on Jul 29, 2006 at 8:14pm Well there is a thing called the, Freedom of Information Act. We can ask for their minutes, of their meetings. Don't we have an attorney among us. H. H Senior Member
Posts: 437 Jul 29, 2006 at 8:29pm QuotePost by H on Jul 29, 2006 at 8:29pm I just don't have the time to do this. The only way you get a Gov. agency that is not doing their jobs, to do their jobs, is to sue them. And yes you can sue the Gov. it happens every day. And you don't have to be an attorney to do this but it helps.
Thanks South. H. specuelatin MasterThread Facilitator Independant Contractor
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Posts: 2,396 Jul 29, 2006 at 9:05pm QuotePost by specuelatin on Jul 29, 2006 at 9:05pm I have a flyer from my favorite personal injury law firm here in Phoenix. No kidding they have some ethics. Here they say you can sue government for negligence. spec "The mind is not a vessel to be filled but a fire to be kindled." -Plutarch flowerchild New Member
Posts: 0 Jul 29, 2006 at 10:40pm QuotePost by flowerchild on Jul 29, 2006 at 10:40pm Spec, please ask the lawfirm you mentioned if they'll file a class action lawsuit. If not, perhaps they could recommend a firm who would. I've been thinking about contacting former US Senator John Edwards in North Carolina about this.He takes on BIG Medical malpractice cases.It couldn't hurt if we all contacted him. One of my bothers is a lawyer, but he's fighting cancer right now,and I haven't wanted to add to his stress.But, he's very sharp, so I may ask his advice on how to proceed. Thank you, Flowerchild southcity Full Member
Posts: 185 Jul 29, 2006 at 10:42pm QuotePost by southcity on Jul 29, 2006 at 10:42pm the latest trend in vistors on my site has been a shift from university and curious people to ones primarily from major investment firms, consultants and law firms. Prosecuters and Defense attorneys alike. Defense firms such as baker donalson www.bakerdonelson.com/Content.aspx?NodeID=2 www.shearman.com/about/overview/ and the supreme court of Virginia This is NOT encouraging, however lawyers such as www.prslaw.com/attorneys_detail.php?id=9 is looking as well these are just the firms that stand out from the top of my head, there are many, many more. the sharks are circling so to speak. Listen, this is a huge issue. ive been told that several administrations will be involved. read here
crossinglines.net/page_2_of_communications_with_pe.htm in fact read all communications(well some anyway i have much more to add) with tamtam. find the link on www.crossinglines.net it will shine a little light on my involvement with him. I will be discussing this during an hour long interview on the radio program "In Short Order" with Sue Vogan. Aug 17 at 9:00 pm eastern time. To Listen to the broadcast go to www.highway2health.net Aug 17 at 9:00 pm eastern time. "First they ignore you... Then they laugh at you... Then they fight you... Then you win." -Mahatma Gandhi H Senior Member
Posts: 437 Jul 29, 2006 at 10:44pm QuotePost by H on Jul 29, 2006 at 10:44pm Class action suit is the way to go. Which lawfirm did the Brocovich case? H. southcity Full Member
Posts: 185 Jul 29, 2006 at 10:45pm QuotePost by southcity on Jul 29, 2006 at 10:45pm janedough said: I don't understand. SC, what is this site, what does this mean? How did you find this?
Hello janedough, i'm not quite sure which site you were refering to but if it was crossinglines.net that would be my site. my email is firstname.lastname@example.org "First they ignore you... Then they laugh at you... Then they fight you... Then you win." -Mahatma Gandhi flowerchild New Member
Posts: 0 Jul 29, 2006 at 10:49pm QuotePost by flowerchild on Jul 29, 2006 at 10:49pm Dear H, I think Erin Brokovich worked for the Massery law firm.Ed Massery? Flowerchild H Senior Member
Posts: 437 Jul 29, 2006 at 11:26pm QuotePost by H on Jul 29, 2006 at 11:26pm Well as South said, the sharks are circling and the ship is sinking. Please can someone get on this. I literally don't have the time. H. southcity Full Member
Posts: 185 Jul 29, 2006 at 11:40pm QuotePost by southcity on Jul 29, 2006 at 11:40pm umm I never said the ship was sinking, and i am all over this. What I said was this is not going to be an easy battle. Now what we need is money that none of us has. But hotel owners do, just think casinos, as do the cruise industry, etc, etc. All industries that will take a hit because of the publics fear of contracting this illness have a vested interest in a quick resolve to this problem, and they are just now beginning to understand this. if you want to contact anyone, perhaps this direction would be best as they have the money as well as the lobbyists and attorneys to defend this issue on our behalfs. to fight money and power it takes money and power. So go after those who have it that share our interest. "First they ignore you... Then they laugh at you... Then they fight you...
Then you win." -Mahatma Gandhi flowerchild New Member
Posts: 0 Jul 30, 2006 at 12:34am QuotePost by flowerchild on Jul 30, 2006 at 12:34am I agree with you, Southcity. Everybody PLEASE call up or write to these folks who would lose $$ over this illness being out of control. For Heaven's sake...how long do we have to preach this sermon? Let's go for it, friends! Flowerchild flowerchild New Member
Posts: 0 Jul 30, 2006 at 1:10am QuotePost by flowerchild on Jul 30, 2006 at 1:10am BUMP! tonie Ultimate Member
Posts: 2,338 Jul 30, 2006 at 6:22am QuotePost by tonie on Jul 30, 2006 at 6:22am SouthCity, I do believe you are correct, I've believe and feel strongly that the CDC will in fact pasify as long as they can, because I know how these things work, pasify pasify pasify, IS the goverments way...in hopes that we will go away and just burn out. (What they aren't getting though, is WE are NOT going away this time until the Morgellons goes away!) Most "organizations" or groups come on strong, then 'peter' out. That IS why they pasify, in hopes we will peter out, because it's how things usually go. Just like last years broadcasts, when the news seemed to go public about Morgellons, then it died down, and absolutely nothing gets resolved. Because they know, that's how it goes. But "us" together here will show them differently, cause we're not going away, and we will use every avenue to exploit their negligence!
That's why this time, NOW we will not stop. And they won't be able to play the "let us burn ourselves out" game. We must keep up our pounding of the door from every avenue we can, writing celebrities, elected officials, schools, and news people, and we will stop the pasification from CDC. Everyone that's writing letters now, thank you and please keep them going out, everywhere and anywhere you can find a site to email, a basic letter is all that's needed that can be sent off very easily by emailing and you all and me doing this - we WILL WIN, I know we will! I'm feeling so happy today because I know in my heart all of us here are going to make this happen! janedough Ultimate Member
Posts: 971 Jul 30, 2006 at 3:23pm QuotePost by janedough on Jul 30, 2006 at 3:23pm bump THE TRUTH IS THE GREATEST ENEMY OF THE STATE." -- Joseph Goebbels, German Minister of Propaganda, 1933-1945 H Senior Member
Posts: 437 Jul 31, 2006 at 12:38am QuotePost by H on Jul 31, 2006 at 12:38am South, what I meant was the ship was sinking for the corporations, and they realize this. That is why you are getting those hits on you site. They are always one step ahead that is why they are rich. H. mikey
Jul 31, 2006 at 5:49am QuotePost by Guest on Jul 31, 2006 at 5:49am Does anybody have anything postive to say? I'm really down this morning, panicking, rock bottom, they have put a 13 person team together, we need help, please somebody tell me that have some faith that a cure is coming, fear has gripped me this morning, I'm in a attack, I need you guys man ... imblownaway Ultimate Member
Posts: 969 Jul 31, 2006 at 6:08am QuotePost by imblownaway on Jul 31, 2006 at 6:08am I know this is so overwhelming. At times like these I relyon my spiritual beleifs. Even though I dont goto church Ive been thinking about going to people that do for comfort and to raise awarness. We have come along way. And I beleive in the people here, the people at mrf. And most of all in the power of love. We have children to look after and none of us are backing down. We are in the fight of our lives. I wish I could say something more positive. Something to make it all go away. But I am scared too. http://www.morgellons-disease-research.com/Morgellons-Message-Board/Thread-Chlorhexidineaspirin-and-antibiotics http://www.zimbio.com/Goodbye+Candida/articles/Ja6Aja4rjor/Member+Mold+Treatment+Suggestion s+1 Quote (Originally by 10meters)--- I have written many emails to Tamtam, (Bell Van Eeden) the dutch microbiologist who has the Morgellon pathogen in culture and has studied it extensively . He told me to wash the skin with selsun blue, citric acid mixed in shampoo, alternating with chlorhexidine 2 % suspension everyday. This solution can be purchased in gallon form at amazon.com for $12. Has anyone tried it? Has anyone had some success? This stuff may also be helpful in cleaning the sticky substances off your countertops. Also, when starting an antibiotic/antifungal regimen, Van Eeden also recommends taking aspirin to increase penetration of the antibiotics. He also says that it will help regulate reactions. http://www.morgboard.proboards.com/thread/1008 etic model organism based on quorem sensing with cell to cell communications, robotic-like behavior, uses protein formation, and assembly. per daniel bell van eeden southcity http://lymebusters.proboards.com/thread/10582
http://www.biology-online.org/biology-forum/about1958-3265.html by tamtam » Tue Aug 08, 2006 10:37 am There is no reason to demand the source code. The source code represents specific data and this you will never get because it belongs to another department. Mrs. Gerberding has been informed at least twice in 2004(....) Immediate access to this infectious agent can be established at once. She should be advised to contact ECDC in Solna Sweden with reference to: http://www.silentsuperbug.com What I can not offer is: " that one or more than one US citizen(s) will start to demand this type intervention" Again: access can be established at once; if necessary. Interested health officials should contact: http://www.silentsuperbug.com or: http://email@example.com
Sincerely, tamtam http://www.biology-online.org/biology-forum/about1958-2868.html by tamtam » Sat Jul 15, 2006 7:29 pm Yes I am a terrorist! ECDC monitor of the European Union put the Dutch Government under pressure after I report ECDC, CDC and Interpol in France about an environmental crime. In reaction the Dutch Government send the National coordination team for an interview. This team will solely go after terrorists. Speaking out against atrocities caused by members of the Western Alliance is classified as undermining international State security -as I think to may conclude. Members of the Western Alliance are responsible for the release of this pathogen.
I suppose that this model organism is used to manufacture precursor chemicals and the concept must have been used again during present war. The Institute and adjacent military airport that has vanished in 1991 after the outbreak in 1980 were in direct line with the international production line of the F16 hence e.g Lockheed Martin and Lackland. President Clinton gave this institute money to study the effects of Gulf War syndrome. Bio remediation has gone on since today and a novel residential area that was put down on former contaminated soil (about 1990) has an unprecedented number of people with cancer. They protest about this fact 2004. The Alliance knew what would be the result of an outbreak in terms of a steady flow of medical cases. The higher echelon knows very well what the general effect will be on the population. And I can assure You that it is very very bad for an unprecedented number of people. Transboundary! In fact what you need is an execution peleton. That' s my opinion and I am a rather peacefull thinker.