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jure sanguinis. The answer is, it reall depends on se!eral factors including how man records ou need to order, which states ou are going through, the price our translator charges and which consulate ou are going through. "umber of records #enerall speaking, the more generations ou ha!e to go back to claim Italian citizenship, the higher the cost. The reason for this, of course, is ou$ll ha!e more people to order records for the further back ou go. The number of records ou are making corrections on can impact this as well. %hen ou request a correction, ou$ll likel need to order and pa for a new cop of the corrected record. &tates'Cities'Counties ou are ordering records from The cost of records and apostilles can !ar greatl b state, cit or count . I$!e seen states charge an where from ()* to (+* per !ital record. &imilarl , apostilles can cost an where from () to (+, each depending on the state. The cost of making corrections also !aries. I wrote about a strateg on collecting records in this article that could help ou keep unnecessar costs down. The Italian consulate -equirements can !ar greatl b consulate which will increase or decrease the cost. .or e/ample, the number of documents the consulate requires be translated or ha!e apostilles for can differ significantl . In addition, some consulates are more understanding when there are minor discrepancies whereas others require e!er thing match across documents. 0a!ing to correct man records can add significantl to the cost. I ha!e not heard of an consulates charging to actuall appl . In addition, most consulates require ou appl in person. The added cost to !isit the consulate in person will !ar based on our pro/imit to the consulate, accommodation needs, mode of transportation and the number of times ou need to !isit the consulate. Translation price Translators !ar in their price. I$!e seen translators charge an where from ()*1(*, per record. &ummar of costs In general ou can e/pect to pa 2 3ital -ecords2 ()*1(+* each "aturalization certificates and paperwork2 (++ 4for "5-5 documents6, (7* 4for 8&CI& certificate plus (+, if ou need to do a search6 Corrections2 (),1(*, per record 5postilles2 ()1(+, each Translations2 ()*1(*, per record Cost to !isit consulate2 !aries 9ostage and miscellaneous2 (+,1(:, Other potential e/penses ;ost people can do all the work and file on their own. In certain situations people ma need to hire outside help to collect records or for legal issues. .or e/ample, if ou are running into problems getting a record from Ital , there are agencies that ha!e relationships with Italian go!ernments and can help for a fee. If ou are running into problems with the consulate accepting our paperwork or want to challenge or get ad!ice on a law, it ma make sense to hire an Italian law er. If ou are ha!ing problems making corrections to our records, ou ma need to hire an 5merican law er. Of course, all of this would add to
translating documents. %e did e!er thing through email. 5lso.eel free to lea!e their name. call a few of them and ask them some basic questions about their cost and pa ment method. &he was referred to me but was also on the &an . ou$ll need to ha!e the consulate that ser!ices the jurisdiction where the record was issued certif the record and the translation. apostilles do not need to be translated. &he translated e!er thing on the record from the header to the footnotes at the bottom. Did ou ha!e a good e/perience with a translator and want to recommend them< .. I wanted to write a Cliff notes !ersion of it for those just wanting a summar .&. translating records. The end translation was a simple %ord document that followed the order of the record but had no special formatting. translator > Categor Translation> 9ermalink > Comments 4+6 &ummar of "aturalization -ecord -equirements I wrote a detailed article on naturalization requirements here. and the record was issued in the 8. ou are read to start getting them translated into Italian. Eour Italian1born ascendant$s naturalization certificate. how the work and what ou can e/pect.the cost. Congratulations on making it this far@ Aefore ou get started on the translation process double1check to make sure all necessar corrections are done. To get tips and tricks and additional information. per record or page and I was satisfied with her work. and their turn1around and lead time. If ou ha!e the original certified !ersion of our . If ou are going through a consulate in another countr or the record was issued outside of the 8. &ince man of the translators do e!er thing electronicall now.net6. translating into Italian. I used #abriella ?inaga 4gabriellaCeinagaDatt. list of translators.&. I ha!e not heard of an consulates requiring naturalization paperwork be translated.rancisco consulate$s list of translators.&.6 #etting -ecords Translated from ?nglish to Italian Italian dual citizenship building in -omeOnce ou ha!e all of our records collected. &he did not sign or certif the translation as the consulate states not to do this. their location is not reall important. The records that need to be translated will !ar b consulate. Eou can also ask other fellow Italian 5mericans who ha!e gone through the process for referrals. It$s also a good idea to check our consulate$s website to !erif which records need to be translated and to confirm the requirements ha!en$t changed. ). The consulate highl recommends ou use somebod on their list. ?ach consulate pro!ides a list of translators . That article turned out to be longer than originall anticipated. translation certifications. 0a!e ou run into an une/pected e/penses in our own journe to claim Italian citizenship< Do ou ha!e ad!ice for others on things ou ha!e learned to keep costs down< Tags cost to get Italian citizenship= price= costs= cost= pa ment= cost for Italian dual citizenship > Categor #athering Documents and -ecords > 9ermalink > Comment 4. including Brecord not found$ letters. If ou are going through an Italian consulate in the 8. please refer to the original article.. contact info 4with the translator$s permission of course6 and which consulate$s list the are on in the comments section. 5t the time of this writing she charged between ()*1(+. as a result. ou don$t need an additional certifications on the translations. Tags Italian translation. Aefore ou choose a translator.
should be sufficient. otherwise ou$ll need to go to the count or state courthouse where the naturalization took place 4or where our ancestor li!ed6. 7. sa )G)*. +. and has a few records for naturalizations issued b count and state courts. "ote2 Eou do not need an apostille or translations done on an naturalization paperwork including Brecord not found$ letters. &upporting records from the "ational 5rchi!es and -ecords 5dministration 4"5-56. born ascendant was born will help in this situation. If our relati!e did not naturalize. if ou are requesting citizenship through our great grandfather1Fgrandfather where our great grandfather was born in Ital and our grandfather was born in the 8. such as %orld %ar I and %orld %ar II registration records. If there are discrepancies ou are concerned about or ou are unable to track down records from the abo!e organizations. District court. The "5-5 has records for naturalizations issued b federal courts. "ote2 a certified cop differs from a regular cop in that all the records are affi/ed b a red ribbon with a gold seal. ou ma need to get a statement of no record from the count courts where our relati!e li!ed. If there are are possible spelling !ariations for our relati!e$s name. with the appropriate letter head. The "5-5 does not ha!e copies of the certificates themsel!es. :. with appropriate letter head and notarization6 stating that the count or state released the naturalization documents to them.&. The 8&CI& does not issue certified copies 4unless our relati!e is still ali!e and requests a replacement6= therefore. *. in.&. Tags Italian citizenship naturalization. If ou don$t ha!e the original. &tatement of B"o -ecord$ from the abo!e organizations. this and the certificate should be enough proof. ou should be able to get certified copies. ou$ll likel need to get a certified cop of the census record issued immediatel after our first 8. born ascendant was born from the "5-5. &upporting records from state or count historical societies or archi!e offices. in most cases. ou will likel need to get additional certified records 4listed below6 as proof. census which lists both of them. &ome counties and states ha!e released all of their naturalization records to local historical societies or archi!es offices. &upporting records from state or count courts. request the send ou a statement of no record that lists the search criteria the used. ou$ll need to go to the courthouse that issued it to get a certified cop .or naturalizations that were issued b a state or count court. The statement of no record should be certified. ship passenger lists. signed b a custodian of records 4ask them to include their title6 and notarized. but does ha!e supporting records such as the petition for naturalization and the oath. Aasicall .&. be sure to let the organization know for their search. Eou can request the "5-5 send ou certified copies. this. There ma be other records ou can pro!ide as additional proof. an record that still shows our Italian born ascendant as an Italian citizen after our 8. along with the certificate. etc. %hen the consulate requests records Bwith the red ribbon$ this is what the are referring to. If ou are able to get a certified cop from a courthouse. such as the 8. ou can order the certificate from the 8nited &tates Citizenship and Immigration &er!ices 48&CI&6. If ou are able to get certified records from the "5-5 and there are no major discrepancies between this and our ascendants other records. If this happened to our relati!es records. H.&. "5-5. .or e/ample. . ou$ll want to get a cop of the )G+. Certified census and other records. this ma be sufficient to pro!e naturalization. naturalization proof. If the abo!e organizations cannot find the naturalization record for our ascendant. .ascendants naturalization certificate and there are no major discrepancies between this and our ascendant$s other records. summar . 8&CI& > Categor #athering Documents and -ecords > 9ermalink > Comments 476 "aturalization Certificate and -ecords .ake sure to double1check with our consulate to confirm this is sufficient. 5lso request the send ou a certified custodial agreement'letter 4signed b a registrar of records.
the data contained in the naturalization record ma help fill some of the gaps. . ou$ll likel need to go to the local court which issued it. If ou ha!e our Italian1born ascendants original certificate and there are no major discrepancies between that and their other records. the include the date range of records 4based on when the were submitted6 the are currentl working on at the bottom of their website. to get the record. &econd. Once ou ha!e the certificate number. it can take quite awhile. If ou end up needing to do a search request.inall . This article contains tips and tricks and additional information that ou ma find helpful. If ou ha!e information ou are missing which ou need to be able to request other records. If the issue a J-ecord "ot .reedom of Information 5ct form which can be found here.iles6 issued after )G. If ou are requesting the certificate from the genealog program. It took them about : months to send m great grandfather$s naturalization certificate from the time I submitted the request. Definitel double1check with our consulate though just to confirm the don$t need an thing else. 5n original naturalization certificate is the onl record the Italian consulate will return to ou. depending on where and when it was issued. I recei!ed an email letting me know the had m request.H. 5bout a month or so before recei!ing it. If ou know our relati!e did not get naturalized or the cannot find the record. If the naturalization was issued prior to )G. ou can order the certificate online or !ia mail. )G*+. if ou do not currentl ha!e the naturalization certificate number 4which is t picall I digits long6 on other documentation.irst. ou$ll need to submit a search request before ou can request the actual certificate. If ou can$t find this number. I wrote a summar of the requirements mentioned in this article here for those just wanting a high le!el o!er!iew of what records the will need to collect. ou can ask them to send ou a statement of no record b following the instructions found here. true cop from the 8&CI& 4unless our relati!e is still ali!e and requests it6 therefore ou will also likel need to request certified backup documentation from one of the other organizations that holds naturalization records as outlined below. do a little searching online to see if ou can find our ancestors naturalization inde/. Otherwise. sometimes months. as I wrote about here. it is good to get the ball rolling sooner than later.oundK because the either . If our relati!e is still ali!e and the do not ha!e their naturalization certificate. If the naturalization certificate was issued on or before 5pril ). . 5lso. proof that our relati!e was not naturalized before their kin was born is one of the ke criteria the Italian consulate will look for. In this case. make sure ou include alternate spellings of names and nick names as well as possible birth dates the ma ha!e used. this will likel be good enough and ou shouldn$t need to go through the steps outlined below. the naturalization record can contain a lot of information about our relati!e. otherwise ou$ll likel need to send the 8&CI& their death certificate. If it was issued after 5pril ). ou can request a cop of the naturalization certificate from the 8&CI& genealog program. ou ma need to ha!e them submit a request. consider tr ing to get records through one of the other organizations listed below first as the will t picall include this number on the records the send ou. submit a separate request for them to send ou the record using the instructions the pro!ide to ou.H. ou$ll need to request the certificate using the .One of the first records ou will want to get is our Italian1born ascendant$s naturalization record for se!eral reasons. There is a fee for this ser!ice and it can take se!eral weeks to get this information so finding this number can sa!e quite a bit of time and e/pense. If the do find the record. 5sk them include an Jdeclaration of intentionK or Jpetition for naturalizationK records in their search. ou cannot get a certified. )G*+. It is a good idea to get this confirmation before going through the e/pense and trouble of collecting all of the other required records. The 8nited &tates Citizenship and Immigration &er!ices 48&CI&6 has a record of all naturalization certificates 4also called C1. 9rior to submitting our request.
an 5ffada!it of %itness and the Oath of 5llegiance. The were apologetic and I recei!ed a cop of the naturalization record within a week. The packet was bound with a red ribbon and had a gold seal holding it in place certif ing it.archi!esDnara. District Court or District Court of J/K count or state. The cost for these through the "5-5 was (++. count or state court. if the "5-5 or count do not ha!e the record. The "5-5 does not ha!e the actual naturalization certificates.ake sure ou request a certified cop . that ser!e different regions. Eou should be able to find an electronic cop online first making the search quicker and easier for the "5-5.could not find the record or our relati!e was ne!er naturalized. make sure to request an records be certified. 5 listing of all of the "ational 5rchi!es offices with a link to their respecti!e websites with contact information can be found here2 http2''www. 8. . Contact the one that ser!es the location where the naturalization record was issued.ake sure ou let them know the different name !ariations the record could be under. . free of charge.archi!es. . . If it was issued at a 8. There are three primar organization t pes outside of the 8&CI& that ma hold naturalization records2 "ational 5rchi!es and -ecords 5dministration 4"5-56. There are satellite "ational 5rchi!es offices scattered throughout the 8. If ou ha!e a cop of the naturalization certificate or were able to find the inde/ file online. be sure to include multiple spelling !ariations if applicable. There is no cost for the "5-5 to do a search and let ou know if the ha!e an records. with appropriate letterhead and notarization to include in the packet ou gi!e to the consulate. ou can go through the "5-5.*.&. in some cases.archi!esDnara. . I did not hear back for + weeks so I contacted them. born ascendant was born include %orld %ar I and %orld %ar II registrations. ou will probabl need to go to the appropriate court or. 5lso. a Certificate of No alt . there are multiple other steps the Italian consulate requires ou go through which I wrote about in the last paragraph here.go!6.or e/ample. If ou do not know where the naturalization record was issued or who issued it.go! email bo/. I went through the "5-5 for m great grandfather$s naturalization record and found their customer ser!ice to be outstanding and the turn around to be quick. District Court. ship manifests. The cost of this along with additional information can be found on the 8&CI& website. ou ma need to get a certified cop of the most recent census record after our first 8&1born relati!es was born from the "5-5. Other records that can help pro!ide proof that our Italian born ascendant was still an Italian citizen when our 8. ou will want to request a statement of no record. packet included2 a Certificate of 5rri!al. signed b a custodian of records 4ask them to include their title or include a statement that the ha!e access to the register of naturalizations6. the 9etition for "aturalization.or e/ample. The organization ou request them through will depend on where and when the naturalization certificate was issued. The "5-5 will occasionall ha!e a few count and state records as well. request a certified )G+. 5fter sending m initial request to the boston. This should list both our Italian born relati!e and 8& born relati!e and indicate our Italian1born relati!e was still an Italian citizen b showing an al. census listing them. request the also send ou a custodial agreement or letter 4signed b a registrar of records.&. if our first 8& born relati!e was born in )G)*. and !oter list records. asking one of the "ational 5rchi!es offices to do a search is a good place to start. courthouses and count or state archi!e offices or historical societies. 4for alien6 in the status column.&. the count or state archi!e office or historical societ . If the naturalization was issued b a municipal. at the time of this writing. 5s with the "5-5. . If an of the organizations cannot find the record. if ou don$t know how our ancestors name was spelled on the naturalization certificate. If the records were sent to a historical societ . The certificate number needed for the 8&CI& is in the Oath of 5llegiance section.go!'locations'. it should include the court it was issued in. 5s with other search requests. with appropriate letter head and notarization6 stating that the count or state released the naturalization documents to them. The "5-5 takes requests !ia email 4usuall Lcit nameM.&.
. To sa!e some time. Eou can get additional information on the cost and the process b going to that state$s &ecretar of &tate$s website. make sure to check the records for discrepancies and be aware of which discrepancies our consulate will accept and which need to be corrected. 4California6 and e!er where in between. signing and notarizing a standard sealed form called an apostille. if ou were born in the &tate of "ew Eork and the &tate of "ew Eork issued our birth certificate.5s mentioned earlier.org and 5ncestr . local court or archi!es office and attach a cop of the inde/. "5-5. don$t be sh about picking up the phone and calling these organizations if their website is not clear or ou ha!e questions. &ignatories of the 0ague Con!ention will then accept the document as a legitimate and legal record. make sure to specif that the apostille is for Ital . t pe in the state$s name followed b the word JapostilleK into #oogle. Turnaround and processing times will !ar b state and the method b which ou request the apostille 4e.ortunatel for us.or e/ample.com. The apostille is then stapled to the original record.com is subscription based. 5ncestr . The consulate occasionall changes the requirements and there ma be !ariances between the consulates. at the time of this writing. &tandard disclaimer2 It is alwa s a good idea to check the requirements of our specific consulate. Depending on the consulate. naturalization petition.amil &earch. Tags application. 8&CI& > Categor #athering Documents and -ecords > 9ermalink > Comment 4)6 #etting -ecords 5postilled Eou$!e collected all of the required certified !ital records. if ou still ha!en$t requested the records from the state.ost of the time. ourself and our minor children 4if applicable6. Aefore ou send the records off for apostille. howe!er. &ome consulates. In addition. naturalization certificate. The results should turn up the e/act page on the state$s website that has this information. This wa if an . . now how do ou get Ital to recognize them as certified< . walk1in 3& mail1in6 but is usuall around )1+ da s to up to 7 weeks 4plus mailing time6. If ou find this for our Italian relati!e.or e/ample. . one thing which will make requesting a naturalization record easier is if ou can find a cop of the naturalization record inde/ online. apostilles are pro!ided b the &ecretar of &tate$s office for the state that issued the original certified record. include the petition number in the bod of our email to the "5-5.rancisco. Ital was a signator of the 0ague Con!ention 45O5 J0ague Treat K6 as was the 8. In a nutshell.&. this agreement specifies that a competent authorit 4as designated in the 0ague Con!ention6 can certif the authenticit of a document b filling out. this will likel include all records directl pertaining to the people in the Italian lineage ou are claiming citizenship through.amil &earch is free. 5lso. it offers a free two week trial. freedom of information act. naturalization record.g. ou$ll need to go through "ew Eork$s &ecretar 45O5 Department6 of &tate$s office. Once ou get a record apostilled. some states ha!e special requirements for a record to be eligible for apostille which ou ma need to follow when requesting the record. %hen ou make our request. the 0awaii &tate Department of 0ealth will forward the !ital record to the &ecretar of &tate$s office for apostille if ou specif this in our original request and send two checks 4one for the record and one for the apostille6. onl require apostille$s for our records and those of our minor children. it is important that the apostille not be remo!ed or detached otherwise it will be in!alidated. such as &an . The two websites where I ha!e found them for m relati!es are2 . oath. Others will require apostilles for all records e/cept those pertaining to naturalization. This will help them locate the record quickl . check the &ecretar of &tate$s website to find out what the apostille process is prior to sending in our request. . I ha!e found most of the people I ha!e spoken with want to help and seem to enjo this part of their job. &ome states allow ou to request the apostille at the same time ou request the record which will sa!e time. cit or count et. c file. 5s recommended in a pre!ious post. The cost will !ar greatl b state from () 40awaii6 to (+.
&. apostilles. 5postille certification. . ou don$t want to go through the time and e/pense to gather the necessar documents onl to find out down the road that ou aren$t eligible. ou will need to get birth and marriage certificates for all of our relati!es.K under the citizenship column for our Italian relati!e. start gathering online documents and recording basic information including names and dates. birth certificate apostille. Nook for future posts where I will write about getting documents from other countries in greater detail. if ou need to request a certified record from another countr .corrections need to be made.P. in which m great grandfather was still listed as Jal. ou$ll need to dig in further to find out the date the naturalized to determine if it was before or after our first 8. born relati!e was born. this is a !er good indication the hadn$t naturalized et when our 8. 9reliminar in!estigation and confirmation of eligibilit . ou$ll apostille the corrected document. born Italian 5merican relati!e was born. chances are ou$ll need to do a bit of research. #ather basic information and reconfirm eligiblit Once ou ha!e our initial confirmation. go!ernment just released the )G:. census. this could be as simple as asking a li!ing relati!e if the basic criteria were met.amil &earch.or e/ample. apostille marriage certificate. what is apostille > Categor 5postille> 9ermalink > Comments 4:6 ). 7. Click on the countr to find out if the are a member of the 0ague Con!ention that pertains to apostilles. m grandfather was born in the 8. one of the easiest and first things to do is check the first 8. 5postille seal. !ital record apostille. . Depending on how far back in our ancestr ou ha!e to go. +. If ou see an Jal. to the public et.&. PThe 8. census released after our first 8. If our first 8. 5postilles do not need to be translated into Italian. #ather the required documents Eou can get a list of the required !ital records and documents on each Italian consulates website or b emailing them. The cost and process will !ar greatl b countr . Is there an thing else ou would like to know about the apostille process< %hat has been our e/perience with the apostille process< %as it prett smooth for ou or did ou run into glitches< Tags apostille. +. 5postille cost. It$s better to send a quick email to be certain ou aren$t o!erlooking something and for peace of mind. census on 5pril +. &teps for Obtaining Italian Citizenship &tarting from the beginning. hague con!ention.)+.oreign 9ublic DocumentsK. &ecretar of &tate.org is a good place to start our search. On a side note. some consulates require this before the will send ou a list of the documents the require. a list of the the member nations of the 0ague Conference can be found here.&. apostilled. The site is a free resource and includes 8.&.K If it is blank or shows that the naturalized.&. censuses and naturalization records. born Italian 5merican relati!e was born before )G:. . It hasn$t released an censuses after )G:. In fact. here are the basic steps required for claiming our Italian Citizenship2 ). If ou are going farther back.&.&. 9lus. In general. "ow is also a good time to send an email to our Italian consulate to reconfirm that ou are indeed eligible. in )G)* so i checked the )G+. This con!ention is officiall titled JCon!ention of * October )GH) 5bolishing the -equirement of Negalisation of .&. born relati!e was born.
&. it is a good idea to confirm with them through email if the documents ou ha!e gathered will meet their requirements and if there are an additional documents ou need to gather. email or call the !ital records office. onl requires our records and those of our minor children be translated.rancisco consulate. dates and locations on our records and those of our minor children need to match e/actl . depending on the consulate. dollars or more. &ome consulates. &ome consulates allow photo copies for the documents related to their spouses. :. Obtain 5postille certification Once ou ha!e all of our documents gathered and corrections made.starting with the Italian born relati!e. such as there is a middle initial in one document and not the other or the Italian document lists the name as 3incenzo and the 8. 5n 5postille is an international certificate recognized b countries who signed the 5postille treat . 5lso. while still others require their spouses records also be translated. Other consulates onl require the records pertaining to the Italian side ou are getting citizenship through. 5ll names. . In most cases. The Italian consulates websites pro!ide links to people who can do this for ou and the price can !ar from ()* per page to (*. This includes information such as our address and contact information as well as last known li!ing locations for ourself and our Italian . including Ital and the 8. . long1form copies. Q. H. particularl names. &ometimes. ou$ll need to send them in for 5postille certification. Check with our Italian consulate to determine which records require translation. I wrote about a strateg for obtaining the needed records here. Their website ma list the steps required to make corrections. Confirm names. such as around the time ou are read to send off our documents for 5postille certification. &ome consulates also require these records for their spouses. ou will also need our di!orce decree and. The certificate is stapled to each document to !erif that the document is a legitimate. on which records will require an apostille. the consulate ma be oka with this. *. If there are discrepancies in our relati!e$s records. Aefore ou go through the trouble of getting the documents corrected.ill out application and required paperwork ?ach consulate has application paperwork ou must fill out. ou ma need death certificates for our Italian relati!es and naturalization records 4or statement of no record6 for our Italian born relati!e.inor discrepancies will not be accepted because these are the records that get registered in Ital . If ou are di!orced. dates and places.&. 5ll of the documents on the Italian side will need to be certified. In addition. email our Italian consulate to see if the discrepancies are acceptable. document lists it as 3incent. places and dates match on all documents Once ou ha!e gathered all of the documents. keep in mind some consulates ma not be able to schedule ou in for G months or more so ou ma want to actuall schedule the appointment earlier in the process.ake an appointment with our Italian consulate Aefore ou make our appointment. . I. ou will need to meticulousl check all of the documents to make sure the information matches. ou ma also need to correct them. if the discrepanc is minor. If it doesn$t. Check with the requirements of our Italian consulate. ou ma also need di!orce decrees for our Italian side relati!es who di!orced. such as the &an . certified cop . Translate documents into Italian &ome documents will need to be translated into Italian. ou will be able to work directl with the !ital records office for the state or cit that issued the document to make corrections to !ital records.
naturalization and death certificates on the bottom. !ital records. "ow is a good time to put our records in order too. Eour paperwork and those of our minor children would then be on top.. jure sanguinis. . double1check e!er thing once again against the list of requirements from our consulate. ou$ll need to gather the additional documentation and schedule a new appointment.or the purposes of this list. In this case. Do not get discouraged or let obstacles stop ou from mo!ing forward. To find out more about the steps required for Italian citizenship. followed b marriage. ou$ll be at the summit looking back on our journe with a sense of pride.or e/ample. if ou are claiming Italian citizenship through our grandfather who was born in Ital . ?!erest. great grandfather. grandparents. Italian 5merican. The important part is to stick with it and make a little bit of progress on a consistent basis. some consulates require ou include a list of discrepancies ou were able to find across records. wrong dates. research them or ask others who ha!e gone through the process.t. Come up with a plan of attack and set small goals such as sending off for certain number of documents per month. "ote2 certified !ital records must be long form and include the cit of birth and not just the count . there is a wa around the obstacles if ou think through them. -e!iew and final preparation One or two weeks before our appointment. put our oldest relati!e$s birth certificate. . If ou are just starting out. "ote2 the Italian consulate will keep all of these documents. &tart with our most recent Italian born relati!e and go down the list.an of these forms must be signed in front of a witness at the Italian consulate. Italian citizenship. Italian translation.ollow1up 5fter our appointment.or e/ample. 9a close attention to e!er thing the consulate requires and be sure to fill e!er thing out se!eral weeks before our appointment so there are no surprises. going through the steps required to claim our Italian citizenship ma seem like climbing . an relati!es born before )G:Q could onl transmit citizenship through their male ancestors as described in this earlier post. grouped b person. It also includes forms confirming that ou or our Italian relati!es ne!er renounced Italian citizenship. Aelow is the list of documents and !ital records ou will need to present to the Italian consulate. Oeep with it and. In addition to the application paperwork. often times. . be prepared for the possibilit that the Italian consulate ma ask ou for additional documentation. . -emember. our Italian citizenship in hand@ Tags apostille. before ou know it. This makes it eas for ou to make sure ou ha!e e!er thing in order and for the consulate to find and confirm the needed records. G. so do not sign them when ou fill them out. changing names. great grandparents. including an o!er!iew of the 5postille. ignore the great grandparent section and skip down to the grandparent section on down. go here.relati!es. .ost consulates ha!e these forms on their respecti!e websites. . followed b their spouses paperwork. the Italian relati!e is the person in our lineage ou will be using to claim our Italian citizenship. . It has taken people a range from man months to se!eral ears to go through all of the steps and. .an consulates request ou put the paperwork in chronological order. grandfather. changing dates. making corrections. wrong names > Categor &tarting Out > 9ermalink > Comments 476 -ecords -equired to Claim Italian Citizenship In order to claim Italian citizenship. there are certain records the Italian consulate requires ou pro!ide them to pro!e our lineage. ).
Italian translation6 Di!orce decree of all pre!ious marriages 4if applicable6 4certified. Italian translation6 . Italian translation6 4In the case of a pre!ious di!orce.Italian great grandparent Airth certificate . apostilled. Italian translation6 5dult children o!er )Q will need to appl for Italian citizenship themsel!es P"ote2 some consulates also require a death certificate for our Italian lineage ancestors as applicable. apostilled. apostilled. apostilled. man requiring them for just the Italian lineage side and a few requiring them for all records including those of the spouses.arriage application 4onl required if our marriage certificate is missing information such as our date and place of birth6 4certified. apostilled. 5ll consulates require our records and those of our minor children be apostilled and translated= howe!er.arriage certificate #randparent spouse Airth certificate 4photocop 6 Italian parent Airth certificate . Italian translation6 .arriage certificate 4if applicable6 4certified. ou must also include a Jcertificate of no appealK6 Death record of spouse if widowed Eour spouse 4if applicable6 Airth certificate Eour minor children 4under the age of )Q6 Airth certificate4s6 4certified.arriage certificate 9arent spouse Airth certificate Eou Airth certificate 4certified. .arriage certificate #reat grandparent spouse Airth certificate Italian grandparent Airth certificate . the requirements for apostilles and translations for the other records !ar b consulates with some not requiring them.
If the person is deceased. Italian citizenship. I needed to add m great grandfather$s birth date to his death certificate. naturalization. The contact information can usuall be found on their website although ou ma need to dig around for it. death certificate.In addition. such as the naturalization certificate. &ome consulates are more particular and require the records match e/actl while others aren$t as concerned about minor discrepancies such as dates that are a few da s off. . &ome records. when ou speak with them. make sure to let them know ou will need the corrected document in long form which must include the cit and not just the count of where the e!ent took place.or e/ample. it is a good idea to call and talk with a representati!e to find out what the process to amend a record is.aking Corrections to -ecords One of the requirements of the Italian consulate is that all names.ortunatel I checked before sending them off for translation which sa!ed quite a bit of time and e/pense. The will periodicall update requirements. If ou are in a situation where ou cannot amend the record. I didn$t do this at first and ended up getting apostilles I didn$t need after m consulate updated the requirements for the Italian ancestor$s records. The can often pro!ide information on what ou need to do and time sa!ing tips that are not alwa s listed on their website. The process usuall requires ou pro!ide some proof of what ou are tr ing to correct. Correcting e!er thing at once will sa!e ou time and mone . The information can often be found on the state$s !ital records website or the count or cit clerk$s office website of where the document was issued. In m case. in particular. before ou begin another major phase such as getting translations and apostilles. the birth date on m great grandfather$s Italian birth certificate was a few da s off from the birth date on his 5merican records. .rancisco consulate will accept minor discrepancies in our ancestors records but all of the names. If ou are making corrections on records for an bod but ourself and the person is still ali!e. first names and e!en minor misspellings in the last names. Aefore ou request a change to an record. !ital records > Categor #athering Documents and -ecords > 9ermalink > Comments 4+6 . I$!e worked with three states across the countr to make corrections on !arious records and this has been the process with each state. it is best to write to our Italian consulate to find out what ou will need to pro!ide. . marriage certificate. make sure ou ha!e compared all records to confirm there are no further discrepancies ou need to correct. . I emailed the Italian consulate and the indicated that if his certified naturalization papers 4declaration of intent and application for naturalization which I got from the "ational 5rchi!es and -ecords 5dministration . then fill out a form and sign an affida!it in front of a notar if ou can$t go into the office in person. dates and places for ou.ake sure to check the posted requirements of our specific consulate regularl and. di!orce decree. our spouse and our children must match e/actl across all records including birth and marriage certificates. &ince m mom is the ne/t closest li!ing relati!e. she is the one that needs to sign the affida!it. In states where ou ha!e the option to work with a local cit or count clerk$s office. ou ma need to present proof of the death and the ne/t closest ancestor down the line will likel need to sign the affida!it.or e/ample. 9roof ma include other certified !ital records and certified naturalization certificates. Tags apostille. ou$ll need to present a certified cop of our Italian born ancestor$s naturalization records.ost states ha!e a process to amend records. cannot be easil amended. the &an . In an case. including his naturalization certificate. places and dates must match across all records. the will likel need to be the ones who sign the affida!it in front of a notar . RR . birth certificate. 5lso. this is usuall preferable for the reasons listed in this article. This post contains additional information on obtaining naturalization records.
. listed his town of birth as -occapalumba. The !ar on completeness. sometimes census records and naturalization records. discrepancies in dates. Ital has regions.aking Corrections > 9ermalink > Comments 4H6 -equesting -ecords from Ital -equesting records such as birth certificates from Ital is a prett straight forward process if ou know the name of the commune where the e!ent took place. pro!inces and communes. . m great grandmother. This site lists all of the regions.org 4free6. 9ersistence is the ke here. If ou run into problems on getting information on how to amend a !ital record. it is a good idea to attempt to confirm ou ha!e the right location of where the e!ent took place .org'comunes. the region of &icil includes the pro!ince of 9alermo which has the commune 4town6 of 9alermo within it. To a!oid lost time.g. changing naturalization certificate. It is first important to understand how geographic areas are organized in Ital .sersale. court 4not count or state6 I highl recommend ordering their naturalization application from the "ational 5rchi!es office. correcting records.htm. This assumes ou ha!e the Italian name of the person ou are requesting the documents for as well as the date 4at least a reasonable date range6 on when the e!ent occurred 2 ). This is often as eas as #oogling the name of it. . changing marriage certificate. It wasn$t until I found the birth records for 9alermo online and did not find him listed that I started to question this. I ordered m great grandfathers naturalization application from the "ational 5rchi!es office which. 5ncestr .amil &earch. %hether through an affida!it or a court order there is !er likel an a!enue to be able to change a record and it is just a matter of finding the right person who can help. 7. I was certain this meant he was born in the commune of 9alermo. Eou can usuall determine this from online records including ship manifests. In m situation. names donSt match > Categor . This website has a list of the !arious communes that ha!e some le!el of records online2 http2''www. the state if ou are working with a local office6. 4On an aside2 the naturalization application contained an arra of information including information about his wife. changing death certificate. tr posting a request for help on this forum2 .or e/ample. The often indicate where the are coming from. Other consulates ma require different proof. sure enough. I started to scrutinize the ship manifests and found one for m great grandmother where the notes indicated she went to !isit her mother1in1law in -occapalumba. 6 +. 9eople ha!e digitized birth and marriage records for se!eral communes and loaded them online. there is a commune with the same name. -egions are akin to states in the 8. 8ltimatel .4"5-566 accuratel included his spouses name and correctl listed his children this would probabl be sufficient. In man pro!inces.. all of the ship manifests and documents I found online on m great grandfather listed 9alermo as his place of birth. pro!inces are similar to counties or parishes and communes are comparati!e to towns or cities.ind the contact information for the commune online. which is a small commune in the pro!ince of 9alermo. escalate to a higher le!el or tr a different office 4e. . .com' 0ere are the basic steps ou will need to follow when requesting records from Ital .ital worldclub.com 4paid but 4at the time of this writing6 offers free + week trial6 and ?llisIsland. %hat corrections ha!e ou had to make on our records< %hat was our e/perience in getting this done< Tags amending records. e/perience brings me to m ne/t recommended step. pro!inces and communes in Ital 4 ou can drill down starting with the region62 http2''www. 5lso.org 4ob!iousl onl includes ships that arri!ed through ?llis Island6 are good sites to help with this. If ou are missing information but know our ancestor got naturalized in a 8. discrepancies.ake sure ou know the actual name of the commune where the e!ent took place.&.&. changing birth certificate. If ou cannot find the contact information. pa special attention to the notes in the ship manifests. world war I'II registration documents.
I would not bother with including an International -epl Coupon as some other websites recommend. .6 *.com' 4%arning2 this tool does a good job of translating words. but I would not recommend including more than this. ou can ask them to bill ou if there is a cost. 5s alwa s. ha!e stopped selling these because the are not seen as cost effecti!e for the recipient so people are simpl not bu ing them. or in Jestratto per riassuntoK 4showing his Lor herM father$s and mother$s namesK.html Eou can augment using #oogle$s translator tool2 http2''translate. this website has some good templates as a starting point2 http2''www. Ital . . da s. If ou don$t know Italian.&.angelfire.. . There are companies ou can find online who ha!e connections to Ital and will get the document for ou for around (*. ou ma consider hiring someone. commune. There are man !er knowledgeable people on this forum that are more than willing to help. I$!e learned some !aluable tips. requesting birth certificate from Ital > Categor #athering Documents and -ecords > 9ermalink > Comment 4)6 &trateg for Collecting -equired -ecords I wrote about the records required b the Italian consulate to pro!e our Italian citizenship here. If ou ha!en$t heard back in 7. da s send a follow1up letter. This requires the sender to actuall make a trip to their post office to redeem it and this incon!enience is often more trouble than it is worth. but not sentences where translations are not literal.google.ost documents from Ital are free= howe!er. The template follow1up letter refers to this law. Eour e/perience and turn around will !ar b commune. Auona fortuna@ Tags birth certificate. The site I linked to abo!e includes a template for an effecti!e follow1up letter.http2''www. pro!ince. 5ccording to this site. . Italian commune records. make sure ou use stamps that ha!e the dollar amount on the front of them.com'forum' . 5ddress the letter in this format2 CO. The record must include the names of their mother and father so make sure to include this in the letter. Don$t use the fore!er stamps. the commune is supposed to send a response within 7. &ome are quick to respond while others ma require prodding. Italian template.italiangenealog . The Italian consulate states2 Jrequest a birth certificate in Jformato internazionaleK. If ou do run into a situation where ou are simpl not getting a response from the commune. International mail agencies require the actual postage amount be displa ed on the stamp. 5s a part of m journe in collecting the necessar records through H different states and talking with others who ha!e gone through the process. In fact.8"? DI 8fficio 5nagrafe T &tato Ci!ile 4zip code6 4Cit 6 4pro!ince of6 IT5NE Include a self addressed en!elope for their con!enience= howe!er. :.a/ or send the letter to the commune. do our due diligence in checking out the compan before hiring them. records. man post offices in the 8. tricks and strategies I wanted to share. Eou can include a few dollars for postage in the letter if ou like. %rite the request letter in Italian.an people ha!e had good luck with simpl fa/ing the letter to commune and recei!ing the requested documents within weeks. If ou send a letter.com'ok7'pearlsofwisdom'Da!idsCformCletters. H. b law.
. 9rior to submitting our request for !ital records through the cit . a date range6. In addition. the Italian consulate requires the records be in long form. 5 couple of sites that ma help ou with this 4especiall if ou don$t speak Italian6 can be found here and here.or e/ample. . if our relati!e$s name can be spelled differentl . . If ou ha!e an questions.or e/ample. If ou don$t ha!e all of the information the are requesting. find out what the 5postille process for that state is. The will not accept short form records. 5s a result.One of the first documents ou should collect is a certified cop of the naturalization record for our Italian relati!e. I$!e gone through the state when I didn$t know the town where the e!ent took place. when it was the onl wa I could get a long form or when it was the onl option 4such as with the state of 0awaii6. count or state. I was able to find it through m grandfather$s birth certificate. I did not know m great grandmother$s maiden name. . One state I requested records from 4"ew . some ha!e reported long dela s in getting this document from the 8&CI&. 5s soon as ou ha!e our Italian relati!e$s birth name and the date and town in Ital where the e!ent took place. %hen requesting the records. On a related note. friendl and helpful.e/ico6 onl issues short forms unless ou pro!ide documentation !erif ing a long form is required. write separate checks for each record ou are requesting in case the cannot find one of the records. m relati!e$s last name starts with a JDeK but on one record it was misspelled to start with a JDiK. this is often oka as the will do a search if ou ha!e ball park information 4for e/ample. I spoke with personnel in quite a few offices and found e!er one I talked with to be accessible. it$s a good idea to go ahead and request the records from Ital . the office could not find the record the first time around. ou want to make sure ou know if there is something specific ou need to request from the 3ital -ecords office to make sure the record can be apostilled. do not hesitate to call or email the 3ital -ecords or Clerk$s office. &ome require ou also submit a cop of our ID and other proof. make sure ou follow the instructions on the respecti!e 3ital -ecords or Clerk$s office website and pro!ide e!er thing the request. 9lus. The census record is not enough as the are often not accurate. most of the time it is better to go to the local cit or count !ital records or clerk$s office where the e!ent took place rather than the state. &peaking of the long form. The ne/t set of records ou should consider collecting are those that pro!ide missing information ou were not able to find in our research. This can usuall be found through the state$s &ecretar of &tate site. %hen ou know the name of the town where the e!ent took place. man offices request ou fill out an application and send a self addressed stamped en!elope 4&5&?6. In some states ou can get the 5postille at the same time ou request the !ital record. Nong form records ha!e more information but mainl the include the cit and not just the count where the e!ent took place. This is one of the ke records for pro!ing our eligibilit and ou don$t want to go through the time and e/pense of collecting all of our other documents onl to find out ou aren$t eligible.or e/ample. include that in the request. 5lso. It is often much less e/pensi!e and the local office is more likel to return our check if the cannot find the record.
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