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From: John Stein
To: Michelle McClure
Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: High priority maps]
Date: Monday, August 03, 2009 9:20:58 AM

Yes will be on the call. I agree with you.

I was asking the Q to make sure we were on the same page in the Center.

Michelle McClure wrote:


> I will make it so. Are you going to be on call today? One thing
> that I think we need to not do in general is prejudge outcomes -- JL
> has made things happen already that the action agencies weren't
> willing to do 6 months ago. I'm not saying that any of these reintros
> are easy (or big hatchery experiments, which is what I'm actually most
> thinking about right now), but that if we can lay out the benefits and
> costs clearly and let her judge rather than making the decision ahead
> of time, she might come to a different conclusion than the
> conventional wisdom.
>
> m.
>
> John Stein wrote:
>> Very much agree with you on putting the inaccessible dams in
>> prominently.
>>
>> js
>>
>> Michelle McClure wrote:
>>> Oh, yes -- the intent of the two page writeup was exactly that -- to
>>> systematically identify the costs and benefits of reintroductions in
>>> each area. It seems to me that when the individual scientists
>>> strongly recommend reintroduction, we need to work through the
>>> process and lay everything out clearly for the policy folks to be
>>> able to justify decisions -- in many cases it probably won't be
>>> worthwhile, but in some it will, and we shouldn't just assert which
>>> ones are without the backup.
>>>
>>> To make that point for the uninitiated, we could put the currently
>>> inaccessible dams prominently on those maps (???) Let me know if
>>> you want that change soon, and I'll ask Damon to do that and to
>>> change the legend titles.
>>>
>>> m.
>>>
>>> John Stein wrote:
>>>> I think these work they are what I had in mind.
>>>>
>>>> Only comment is in reference to Tom C's comment which I think
>>>> said--let's don't make this sound to easy and run the risk that
>>>> effort goes toward an iffy re-introduction at the expense of other
>>>> actions.
>>>>
>>>> Are we Ok?
>>>>
>>>> js
>>>>
>>>> Michelle McClure wrote:

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>>>>> Realizing that the legend ("reintroduction priority") needs to be
>>>>> changed, would you take a quick look and see if these maps (or a
>>>>> subset thereof) works for you?
>>>>>
>>>>> m.
>>>>>
>>>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>>>> Subject: Re: High priority maps
>>>>> Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2009 01:45:18 -0700
>>>>> From: Damon.Holzer@noaa.gov
>>>>> To: Michelle McClure <Michelle.Mcclure@noaa.gov>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's the first attempt. It works best when you cycle through the
>>>>> slides with powerpoint.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Damon
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: Michelle McClure <Michelle.Mcclure@noaa.gov>
>>>>> Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009 2:36 pm
>>>>> Subject: High priority maps
>>>>>
>>>>> > Hi Damon -- can you make me a couple maps (it's for all this
>>>>> BiOp > nonsense that's going on) -- as soon as possible would be
>>>>> best. We > need > to show the benefit of reintroductions in
>>>>> various areas in the > Interior > (based on our TRT memo).
>>>>> > > It should show extant populations and extirpated populations,
>>>>> and > code > the extirpated populations by the utility of
>>>>> reintroduction (so > above > Chief Joe and above Hells Canyon for
>>>>> SR Falls would be one color to > show > that they're most
>>>>> important, Clearwater for Chinook another color > to > show that
>>>>> it's moderately important, etc....). Would it be > possible to >
>>>>> do this both on the satellite image that you did for me (that I
>>>>> use > A > LOT!) and on a more standard graphical map?
>>>>> > > Thanks a million, as always. This is for potential inclusion
>>>>> in a > packet of stuff (short report) to show NOAA (Lubchenco) and
>>>>> the > Action > Agencies what's already been done in terms of
>>>>> reintroductions.
>>>>> > > Thanks,
>>>>> > > Michelle
>>>>> > > > > -- > Michelle McClure, Ph.D.
>>>>> > > Acting Director, Marine Ecosystems Division
>>>>> > Office of Science and Technology, NOAA Fisheries
>>>>> > 1315 East-West Highway, Suite 12435
>>>>> > Silver Spring, MD 20910
>>>>> > michelle.mcclure@noaa.gov
>>>>> > (301) 713-2363 x145
>>>>> > > Permanent contact Information:
>>>>> > > Northwest Fisheries Science Center
>>>>> > NOAA Fisheries
>>>>> > 2725 Montlake Blvd. E.
>>>>> > Seattle, WA 98112
>>>>> > > phone: 206-860-3402
>>>>> > fax: 206-860-3400
>>>>> >>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --

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>>>>> Michelle McClure, Ph.D.
>>>>>
>>>>> Acting Director, Marine Ecosystems Division
>>>>> Office of Science and Technology, NOAA Fisheries
>>>>> 1315 East-West Highway, Suite 12435
>>>>> Silver Spring, MD 20910
>>>>> michelle.mcclure@noaa.gov
>>>>> (301) 713-2363 x145
>>>>>
>>>>> Permanent contact Information:
>>>>>
>>>>> Northwest Fisheries Science Center
>>>>> NOAA Fisheries
>>>>> 2725 Montlake Blvd. E.
>>>>> Seattle, WA 98112
>>>>>
>>>>> phone: 206-860-3402
>>>>> fax: 206-860-3400
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>
>

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