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Principles of Prasna
A promissed writeup on some of the core principles of prasna analysis, including use of varga charts and a timing tool from the Achyuta Gurukul. Definitely a must read for all astrologers.
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1. Tarun Garg Says:
March 28th, 2007 at 2:02 pm

Dear Visti ji I have actually gone through your article already a couple of times and somehow I am not really clear about the success and the timing part of the same. I guess a few more examples on the same could clarify the case. I give you an example of the prasna chart that I cast for a friend. Prasna-108 (77) Date: March 9, 2007 Time: 15:01:07 Time Zone: 11:00:00 (East of GMT) Place: 151 E 13′ 00″, 33 S 53′ 00″ Sydney, Australia Now here is the analysis The Lagna is in Ge and aspected by rasi drishti by exhalted Venus which is a good sign there is graha drishti of rahu and that can show maybe some degree of dis-belief but the authenticity of the prasna is not questionable. The AL sits in libra which is the 5th house and the native had asked when will we have the

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second child. The native selected the number 77 and the number lagna sits in Sg as 77/9 =8 and 5. So add 1 to 8 and that makes it 9. Rasi 9th is Sg and that is the 7th house so the real cause of the prasna is about some new relationship or resulting from his spouse. The navamsa however is the 5th navamsa of Sg and that is Leo. This eludes me how to interpret that, 3rd house is house of sex, sibling, and also initiative. so what can that represent. Secret Number Lagna dividing 77 by 12 it gives me 6 and 5. And that when rounded up represents 7. and remainder is 5 and represents leo again. The 7th planet is Saturn, Counting from sg(number lagna) to Leo it is 9 signs and count the same from sa and that is exhalted Venus in pi which is the 10th house, So what does that show? That the travelling in his job has caused the native to ask this question, It is true that me and my friend both are travelling a lot from the home country and hardly at home, So can we interpret that the real cuase of the prasna was that the native was apprehensive that due to his travel at work he may not be able to beget children soon? Now this is as far as i could interpret. But if I have to give an answer to the native I dont know how to do that. You mentioned the principles as Lagna L aspects Lagna and Karyesh aspects karya Bhava, In this case Lagna is Ge and LL mercury does not aspect by Rasi or garha drishti, (Q1: what aspect should be used for such cases? in Your example you have used graha drishti, why not rasi? and what is the basis for these rules?) Also karyesha Ju does not aspect 5th house so answer is No. Lagna Lord does aspects 5th house by rasi drishti and Ju does not aspect Lagna in any way so No. Ju and Me do not aspect each other and so No. Moon aspects me by rasi drishti but not Ju so no. So what does that mean, the native cant beget children or are we talking of some timeframes etc. Incase we need to give some remedies what approach can we adopt? I hope I was clear with my doubts Regards Tarun Garg 2. Visti Larsen Says:
March 28th, 2007 at 4:24 pm

हरे राम कृ ण॥ Dear Tarun, Namaskar. You have to read the article much more closely. Based on the nature of the success we can ascertain the timing as being within 1 year, 5 years or beyond 5 years. This is also indicated in the article. In the same article I have used predominantly Rasi dristi but in some cases also graha dristi as graha dristi can arise in the form of a strong desire to attain something. Both

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work but graha dristi requires more effort from the client. In the prasna you have made Karaka-Jupiter does not associate with the fifth house nor the lagna/lagnesha. Without such an association the answer is definitely negative. However, Moon is placed in the fifth and does aspect the lagnesha. So if there is supposed to be childbirth it must occur in a period beyond that of one year. Now see the Jagannath Drekkana for timing. Here Guru-Shani is starting after June 2008 and Shani is the fifth lord. Unfortunately he is in the sixth house with the sixth lord, and to confirm this issue we need to see their natal charts as this position doesn’t bode well for childbirths. One saving grace is there in the form of exalted Venus which can bring prematurely born children. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen. 3. Tarun Garg Says:
March 29th, 2007 at 10:37 pm

Respected Visti ji Unfortunately, I have an issue with the natal chart of the native as he is born in finland and as per jhora the ascendent does not change sign in the 21 hours before. I dont know if we could use this chart. Here are the details Sep 8, 1971 22:40:00 Vaasa, Finland 21 E 36 63 N 06 Do you think that we could trust Jhora for these cases? Tarun 4. Tarun Garg Says:
March 29th, 2007 at 10:59 pm

Respected Guru Ji A quick look at the Vimsottari of the native seeded from the 4th star as it has 5 planets indicates that he would run ju -mo from 2008 jan. Now Ju aspects the 12th from the sun so plenty of resources in the Maha dasa. Moon is moon itself? How to analyse that for antardasa (ref your vimsottari discussion). From the AL moon is somehow in the 7th so that means that it will block the way for the persons arudha? Now appying your principle of the 2,5,9 from the Antardasa there is A3, ul, a9 only and no a5. Quick look at the native’s saptamsa reveals that there is 1st child given by Ju(Sg) and indeed a girl. 2nd was a abortion/mis carraige Ra joins Ma(ret), 3rd is Ma joining the node Ra and that can be a boy but Ceasarian section or even a miscarraige(what do you think?) and then it is the node Ke though the next planet after that is Ju so a strong desire can lead to one more Ve ( joins Su) Boy. I know that you have not taught Saptamsa as yet, but I read a few discussions and also from the articles by Pt Sanjay Rath.

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Regards Tarun Garg 5. Tarun Garg Says:
March 29th, 2007 at 11:13 pm

Respected Guru Ji Its me again… Tried to apply the Vimsottari (from the 4th) to the D-7 also. Ju - Mo - Ke can give a child if not atleast Ju-Mo-Ve as Ve lords the child. Ju aspects the 5th house of the native and hence the child birth is possible, Mo aspects Ve which is the lord giving the child and Ke joins the sign Ta and also Ve is the lord of the sign. So Do you think it would be safe to predict that Ju-Mo-ke/Ve could give the child. Before that I dont really see a possibility arising. Regards Tarun Garg 6. sugriva Says:
May 3rd, 2007 at 4:12 pm

Just a quick question(s): where did you study prasna, with whom and for how long? 7. Visti Larsen Says:
May 3rd, 2007 at 6:55 pm

हरे राम कृ ण॥ Dear Sugriva, Namaskar This is a leading question. Why do you ask? I’m still studying Prasna as i am the other parts of Jyotish, and have done so over the years which i have spent learning from Pt. Sanjay Rath. Yours, Visti Larsen. 8. sugriva Says:
May 5th, 2007 at 1:17 pm

Dear Vistiji, Namaste! Sorry if I put u on the defensive. I am very interested in learning prasna. I was just interested in your credentials since u were teaching us about this subject; just as u or anyone else would inquire into the credentials of anyone who is teaching and by implication giving the appearance of being an expert in the subject. Of course no matter how long we are involved in jyotish or any other subject we remain students but of course some are senior, some junior and some neophytes but I think you get my point. U mention Pt. Sanjay Rath as your teacher of Prasna but Sri Rath is not known to be an expert in this area so how u are learning from him? Or has Pt. Rath now become one? Googling “Prasna” http://tinyurl.com/ys67tl I came across Pandit Shyamasundara Dasa http://www.shyamasundaradasa.com in #1 position. On reading his site I was really impressed,

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he really seems to be expert in this with – if his bio is correct — over 25 years in the field of Prasna. Again please forgive me for asking what u thought was a leading question, I sincerely wanted to know what your credentials were. Best regards Sugriva 9. Visti Larsen Says:
May 5th, 2007 at 1:26 pm

हरे राम कृ ण॥ Dear Sugriva, Namaskar In the tradition Prasna is not treated as a subject different from the analysis of the Janma Jataka. In the same way I and my Gurubhai’s were taught. Of course some differences are there between Prasna and Janma Jataka, but both are taught from the beginning and sideby-side. So Sanjayji has been learning and practicing Prasna as long as he has been practicing Janma Jataka, and he is VERY good at it I must say. In fact all Sanjays students are taught to conduct a prasna with every reading they perform, and we do use the prasna as an integral part of the chart reading for the client. You will see this revealed in this lecture: http://www.srigaruda.com/2007/04/22/exampleof-chart-analysis/langswitch_lang/wp Hope this clarifies things. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen. 10. E.Krisna Prasad Says:
May 31st, 2007 at 5:20 pm

Respected Sri Vistiji, Namaste. Kindly Clarify the following. I (a).Suppose,a Querist,puts a question at a certain time from a long distance and the same is received by the Astrologer at a later time. (b)In other case,After receipt of the query,Due to preoccupation,Astroleger may consider it after few hours or days also. In the above cases,Clarify,Which time be taken into consideration for erecting Prasna Chart. II.Which Latitude,Longitude should be taken into consideration. Querist Place or Astrologer Place. III.Please refer Para 1.2.3.Secret(Prasna Arudra)under Para “Examples” (This Article). (a)….The quetiont rounded upto2,Lorded by Moon. How you have arrived that,Quetiont 2 is lorded by Moon. Is there any Numbers assigned to Planets. (b)…Whilst 10th represents Capricorn. How you arrived that 10 th represents Capricorn. (c).The reminder from Number Lagna was 4,which we add1&get5,as the sign Leo. How you arrived reminder from Navamsa Lagna as 4. How you got the sign Leo.-From where you have taken Referance.The basis for taking Referance may be furnished. I will be grateful to you, if you could teach me again the steps involved briefly by providing relevant particulars and rules, wherever Necessary. Thanking you

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E.Krishna Prasad. 11. Sharat Says:
May 31st, 2007 at 8:55 pm

||Namah Shivaya|| Dear Krisna Prasad, If I can briefly explain this: 1 Astrologer casts the prasna chart, at the time when he is able to answer the query, irrespective of the time he received the query, whether by phone/email. 2. The chart data should reflect the astrologer’s location and not that of querist. 3. The planet is as per Vara, Sun=1, Moon=2, etc. The rest is explained in the article which has been updated by Guru Visti, following our discussion on the Sohamsa forum. If you read carefully, you will understand. Hope this helps. Sincerely, Sharat 12. E.Krisna Prasad Says:
June 2nd, 2007 at 3:28 pm

Dear Sri Sharat, Namaste. Thanks for Reply and Noted Contents. Furthur,I have to State that,I am unable to find Updated article By Sri Vistiji.Kindly furnish the location in Sohamsa Forum. 13. Sharat Says:
June 2nd, 2007 at 5:05 pm

||Namah Shivaya|| Dear Krisna, The following para in the paper on this page, is self explanatory 1.2.3 Secret (praçna ärüòha) Sincerely, Sharat 14. arnab Says:
December 8th, 2007 at 8:38 am

hareramkrsna, dear visti ji, i have a very simple question .is it a requirement to have the navamsa lagna of the prasna chart in trines to rasi lagna of questioner to answer his or her question. or we can cast a prasna anytime. your eteranlwelwisher, aRNAB. 15. Visti Larsen Says:
December 9th, 2007 at 7:19 pm

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हरे राम कृ ण॥ Dear aRNAB, Namaskar. You can always cast a prasna, but God may not wanto answer. This is a means to check. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

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