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Listening Practice 1:

Staycations (page 107)

Jake: W
 elcome to At Your Leisure, the talk show with the latest ideas on how to spend your free time.
Im Jake Jones, your host, and with us today is Laura Blake, our travel expert. So, what do you have
for us today, Laura?
Laura: W
 ell, Jake, were going to talk about a new holiday option thats becoming very popular. Its called
Jake: Staycation? That sounds strange.
Laura: Y
 es, it does, Jake, but its really not strange at all. Let me explain. A staycation is when you stay at
home and take your holiday, or vacation as the Americans call it, locally where you live. You see, in
the last few years, theres been a rise in the costs of petrol, airline tickets, food and hotels almost
everything needed for a foreign holiday. People are feeling the effects of this and are changing their
usual holiday plans. In fact, a 2008 survey showed that 42 per cent of French people planned to
spend their summer at home. And when asked about their plans, 34 per cent of Britons
said that theyd cancelled their trips abroad in favour of cheaper trips in their own country.
Jake: So, staycations are actually for people who cant afford a real holiday.
Laura: N
 ot at all! There are many people who feel that too much of their holiday time is wasted in airports,
waiting for flights or luggage. So even though they can afford expensive trips abroad, they opt for
a staycation. They say its a change from the usual travel stress.
Jake: I see. So, how do you plan a staycation?
Laura: W
 ell, the secret to a really great staycation is to relate to it as a real holiday. Start by looking at local
tour books and planning lots of activities. Think about what tourists would do if they were visiting
your city for the first time. The chances are there are lots of things youve always wanted to do, but
have never had the time for like visiting new exhibitions and historical sites, or going cycling or
camping with friends. And because youre not spending large amounts of money on hotels and
flights, you could even splurge on something expensive, like dinner at a fancy restaurant youve
always wanted to try.
Jake: Wow! A staycation sounds like it could be fun.
Laura: It can. But planning activities is only the first step. You also must prepare to go away on holiday.
Jake: But a staycation is when you dont leave home.
Laura: T hats true, Jake. You dont physically leave home, but you do want to leave behind your work
and daily obligations. You can do that by paying your bills ahead of time, just like you would do
before leaving on a normal holiday. And you should take care of household chores and other
responsibilities that need to be done, like servicing the family car or going for medical appointments.
Make sure all of this is done before your holiday. Finally, you need to unplug yourself.
Jake: Unplug yourself?
Laura: Y
 es, Jake. You see, one of the biggest threats to a successful staycation is modern technology,
especially mobile phones and e-mails. They keep us available to people even when we dont want to
be. So, its important to stay away from phones and computers. Unplugging yourself will help you
have a fantastic staycation, doing what we all like to do when on holiday relaxing with family or
friends, and experiencing new and different things.
Laura: S ounds great! Thank you, Laura. Thats all for today. Join us again next week for more leisure time

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Listening Practice 2:

Web Literacy (page 108)

John: G
 ood afternoon. Im John Malkin with Education Matters. This week, were discussing Internet
research with librarian Marla Thorp. Welcome, Marla.
Marla: Thanks, John.
John: Id like to begin with the story you were telling me just before we came on the air.
Marla: O
 K. Recently, when a teacher in London assigned a project to her students about a species of
endangered animal in North America, she was very surprised to receive two projects about the
Pacific Northwest tree octopus.
John: Ive never heard of that.
Marla: N
 either had the teacher. So, she checked the website that those students had used as their source,
and discovered it was actually just a hoax. There is no such animal.
John: So, what happened? Did the students have to do their projects again?
Marla: N
 o. She still marked the students projects as if theyd written about a real animal. But the incident
showed her that some students were lacking whats called web or information literacy, that is, they
didnt know how to gather and evaluate online information. In fact, shes now organised a web
literacy class at her school.
John: Sounds like thats a good idea. By the way, how did she know the website was a hoax?
Marla: W
 ell, she noticed some incorrect scientific information which the students couldnt have known.
But they should have looked up the tree octopus in other sources. Gathering information from
multiple sources is an important guideline to follow when doing online research. If the students had
done so, they would have discovered that the animal wasnt real.
John: Marla, could you give us more guidelines to follow when doing online research?
Marla: C
 ertainly. To begin with, rely on what you already know. Lets say you were researching the
European Union and found a website claiming Britain wasnt a member. Knowing that to be false,
you would reject that site as a source.
John: But sometimes we know nothing about a subject. So, when I google a topic ...
Marla: A
 h yes, Google. Google is just one of many Internet search engines, though certainly the most
popular one. Many universities, however, recommend doing online research through a university or
library website. These allow access to subscription-based sites more suitable for academic research.
John: But Google shows us everything available online, doesnt it?
Marla: N
 o, it doesnt. No search engine does. And this leads to another guideline whichever search
engine you use, first choose results from recognisable names, such as news, magazine and
university sites. These sites also typically provide links to related sites for further information.
John: What about Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia?
Marla: W
 ikipedia is an interesting case. Many of its entries are as accurate as those on the same subjects
in other encyclopedias, such as the Encyclopedia Britannica. On the other hand, anyone can write
and edit on Wikipedia, and even Wikipedias founder has advised students against using the site as
a primary source. However, because many of its entries contain links to their source material and
other relevant sites, Wikipedia can be a useful research tool.
John: Were just about out of time ...
Marla: T hen let me quickly stress: Always gather information from at least two reputable sources and
cross-check facts.
John: Marla, thanks for the valuable information. Sports World is next ...

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Listening Practice 3:

Overcoming Distractions (page 109)

Mr Sloan: Jane? Come on in.

Jane: T hanks, Mr Sloan. I appreciate your agreeing to give me some information for the article Im
writing for the student magazine.

Mr Sloan: Im happy to do it. Please, sit down. Now, you mentioned in your e-mail that youre writing an
article that you hope will help students learn to set priorities and cope with distractions during
the school year.

Jane: R
 ight. These are major challenges for many students, including myself. I thought that because
youre the school counsellor, youd have some good advice. And, um, Im going to write the
article from a personal point of view and report on how I improve in these areas. At least, I hope
Ill improve!

Mr Sloan: W
 ell, Jane, I hope I can help. Now, the first thing you should do is write down everything you
have to do during a certain time period say, two weeks. And I mean everything schoolwork,
exams, after-school activities, even entertainment.

Jane: Oh, I dont have to write those things down. Its all in my head I keep mental to-do lists.

Mr Sloan: T hats not good enough. Write everything down. Then you can mark activities according
to importance and dates. This will help you decide when you should be doing each one.
Then, once youve started organising your priorities, you should also write down every single
distraction that youve experienced for at least a week.

Jane: You mean, things like, uh, a phone call from a friend?

Mr Sloan: E xactly. And if you do this honestly, it can be incredibly helpful. It can give you a good picture
of how easily distracted you are. For instance, that it took you two hours to tidy your room
because you actually spent half of that time on the phone.

Jane: Y
 eah, I see. I always take breaks when Im doing homework, and say to myself, Ill watch some
TV for just five minutes, or Ill write only one e-mail.

Mr Sloan: And those five minutes turn into an hour, or you end up online for hours, right?

Jane: Y
 eah. Way too often. And then its hard for me to concentrate on work again mostly because
Im so angry that I allowed myself to get distracted.

Mr Sloan: Im glad you said allowed myself. That shows you feel you can control your behaviour.

Jane: Well, the problem is, I dont control it.

Mr Sloan: T here are a few practical things you can do thatll help. For instance, turn off your mobile. Once
youve done a certain amount of work, you can reward yourself with a short break to text or
call a friend. But use a timer or look at your watch to make sure you stick to your time limit.
And when its possible, study in the library instead of at home. Also, its very helpful to remind
yourself of why you want to achieve something even write a note to yourself and look at it
every so often.

Jane: Y
 ou mean, like, I want to finish the report tonight so I can go out with friends at the

Mr Sloan: E xactly. Or something more long term, such as, Studying for my maths exam will help me
get a good mark and that will help my chances of attending university. But everything Ive
said means nothing if you dont have willpower. At the end of the day, its willpower that really

Jane: I was afraid of that! Well, Im going to try making these lists anyway

Mr Sloan: Good. And let me know in a couple of weeks if youre making progress.

Jane: I will. And Ill show you the article. Thanks, Mr Sloan! Bye!

Mr Sloan: Good luck!

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Listening Practice 4:

Teens Writing for Teens (page 110)

Mike: Barbara! I didnt realise youd be back teaching today!

Barbara: Hi, Mike. Yeah, Im back. Its hard to believe that last week I was in Chicago. What a fantastic city!
Mike: So, how was the conference on teen journalism?
Barbara: It was very interesting. I brought back loads of magazines and newspapers all written and produced
by teens. The publications are on that table. If youve got time before your next lesson, have a look at
Mike: Id love to. I can look at them now since I dont start teaching until 10 oclock. Wow, you brought
back so many magazines and newspapers! Which ones should I start with?
Barbara: Here, these four are my favourites. This ones New Youth Connections from New York City. And these
two are from California YO! from San Francisco and L.A. Youth from Los Angeles. And this one
VOX is from Atlanta, Georgia.
Mike: Hmm it says here that the L.A. Youth newspaper has been around since 1988. And each issue has
over 400,000 readers! Im impressed. So, how many issues a year are there?
Barbara: There are six issues a year, which are available free from schools, libraries and youth organisations.
Theres also an online edition, which has about 50,000 readers a month.
Mike: And what about this one um YO!?
Barbara: Thats YO! for Youth Outlook. It comes out ten times a year in the San Francisco area. By the way, the
YO! staff also produce a monthly local TV programme and occasional stories for local radio stations.
Mike: Wow, thats amazing! And its a great experience for the kids who work there, especially those who
want to study journalism after school. Hmm ... this magazine has got a brilliant cover.
Barbara: Yes, VOX. Its produced eight times a year, by about 100 students.
Mike: How many readers has VOX got?
Barbara: Approximately 80,000, plus those who read the online edition.
Mike: Now, New Youth Connections this is the one from New York, right?
Barbara: Yes, it started in 1980, and was a model for many other youth publications in the United States.
Mike: So, what do teens actually do to produce these magazines?
Barbara: Well, actually, they do everything. They come up with the ideas for articles, research the topics,
interview people, write, edit, proofread, do the graphic design and take the photographs. And in
many cases, theyre also involved in planning the budget.
Mike: But they work under adult supervision, dont they?
Barbara: Yes. Each magazine functions differently, but most offer training classes. The teenage staff are trained
and supervised on the job by adult professionals, but the adults dont interfere with the content.
Mike: And it looks like some of the content is very serious indeed: gang violence, divorce, drug addiction,
racism, homelessness ...
Barbara: Well, unfortunately, those issues are realities for many teenagers. But there are also articles on travel,
entertainment and planning for university.
Mike: And how are these publications funded?
Barbara: They receive financial support from individual and corporate donors. And some magazines sell
advertising space.
Mike: Interesting. You know that here in London, Richmond Council recently began publishing
a youth magazine.
Barbara: Yes, I know. There are four issues a year, and I think about 15 teenagers work at the magazine as
writers, editors and photographers.
Mike: Right. And its distributed free to every home and school in the area.
Barbara: It would be nice to have a publication for teens like that in my town.
Mike: Maybe we could help get one started.
Barbara: I was thinking exactly the same thing. Oh, look at the time! Lets talk later. Ive got to run ...
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Listening Practice 5:

Doctors Without Borders (page 111)

Tim: G
 ood afternoon. This is Tim Wilson and welcome to Health News. Today Ill be talking with
Dr Maggie Fox, who currently works at City Hospital. Hello, Dr Fox.

Maggie: Hello, Tim. Please call me Maggie.

Tim: T hanks, Maggie. I understand that your work as a doctor takes you to places that most people
never get to see.

Maggie: Y
 es, Tim, thats because Ive been a volunteer with the Doctors Without Borders organisation for
ten years. I fly to places in the world where people arent getting proper medical care, and work
there for several months. Ive just come back from Africa, where I worked in an AIDS clinic.

Tim: I imagine the work must be very difficult. What made you decide to volunteer in the first place?

Maggie: W
 ell Tim, when I finished medical school, I decided to take a break. I wanted to do something
challenging and adventurous, instead of just training in a British hospital. One of my professors
suggested I apply to Doctors Without Borders. Two months later, I found myself on a plane to
a refugee camp in Sierra Leone. Let me tell you, Tim, nothing could have prepared me for that!

Tim: What do you mean?

Maggie: Its almost impossible to describe. Ill never forget the first refugee camp that we visited.
Id never seen anything like it. The first thing that hit me was the numbers! It was like the
pictures that you see on the news, but for real thousands of people and tents crowded into
one small area. And before wed opened the emergency clinic, thered been no health care
there at all!

Tim: T hats hard to believe. After seeing the horrible conditions in the camp, were you sorry you

Maggie: N
 ot for a second. All I wanted to do was to get to work. During my eight months there, we
travelled to several camps, each worse than the next. In the last camp, there werent even tents.
People were sitting under the hot sun with no shelter at all.

Tim: What do you think affected you the most?

Maggie: Its hard to say so much was sgoing on but I think it was the orphans in the camps. I could
treat the childrens medical conditions but I couldnt seem to help them overcome the trauma of
losing their families. Some children couldnt stop crying and others simply wouldnt cooperate
with us. These are the kinds of situations that no amount of training can prepare you for.

Tim: Tell us, Maggie, did you eventually find a way to help them?

Maggie: N
 o, not at first. We tried many things, such as sending orphans to live with other families
or putting children of the same age together in a tent. But nothing really worked. Our most
successful solution was setting up little family units with kids of different ages. If any of us had
some free time, wed spend it with one of these families.

Tim: Maggie, what have you gained from your years of volunteering?

Maggie: W
 ell, Tim, first of all, as a doctor, I was able to treat medical problems and diseases that I would
never see here in Britain. Working with doctors and health-care workers from other countries
was an amazing experience. Without that teamwork, we never would have succeeded. My
volunteer experience has also helped me advance in my career here in Britain. For me, the best
part is making a positive change in other peoples lives.

Tim: T hank you, Maggie, your story is an inspiration to us all. Would you mind taking a few questions
from our listeners?

Maggie: Not at all, Tim.

Tim: Great! Anyone wanting to ask Dr Fox a question can call us at

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Listening Practice 6:

Life Coaching (page 112)

Brian: G
 ood evening. Todays guest on Getting to Know Yourself is Andrew Marks. Andrew has been
a life coach for the past ten years and hes here to tell us about this interesting profession.
Welcome to the show, Andrew.
Andrew: Im glad to be here, Brian.

Brian: Andrew, not everyone is familiar with life coaching. Could you tell us what it is?

Andrew: O
 f course. Life coaching is a way to help people define and achieve their goals in life. It helps
them reach a future place they want to be a place that requires them to grow and improve as
a person in order to get there. I must stress here that life coaching isnt about looking into
someones past or trying to rearrange their entire life. Instead, it involves moving forward in the
right direction towards a specific goal.

Brian: So, how does life coaching work?

Andrew: W
 ell, lets say you have a certain goal, like changing your career or improving your relationship
with a friend, but you dont know how to go about achieving it. Thats where life coaching can
help. You connect with a person, your life coach, who helps you set priorities and decide which
actions are necessary to achieve your goal. You might also be asked to keep a journal so you can
record your progress. Along the way, your coach will assist you by providing you with different
options, new perspectives and encouragement. The result is that youll be able to accomplish
more in life than you ever thought was possible.

Brian: And how often does someone need to meet with their coach?

Andrew: A
 h, thats the best part, Brian. You dont need to meet your coach face to face if you dont want
to. You can interact with each other via e-mail or by telephone. In fact, over 90 per cent of all
successful coaching is conducted over the telephone because its both convenient and efficient.
You see, by using the telephone youre not limited to working with a coach who lives in your
geographical area. Also, telephone sessions generally last only 30 to 60 minutes, while face-toface coaching usually takes much longer.

Brian: Hmm Is life coaching successful? I mean, do most people eventually achieve their goals?

Andrew: W
 ell, Brian, the success or failure of life coaching depends on people choosing a coach whos
right for them. When people choose a life coach, they must look for someone they can respect
and trust completely. And the person they choose should also have the gift of coaching. That
means that he or she will naturally care more about other people than about themselves. You can
see this when they coach because theyll focus completely on you and your goals. Its important
to add, Brian, that successful coaching also depends on having the right attitude, like being open
to new ideas and ways of doing things.

Brian: I see. Can you tell us how life coaching began?

Andrew: W
 ell, life coaching was first used to help motivate business people, especially those with highlevel jobs. And that makes sense, since those jobs are very goal oriented. Since then, life coaches
have become more like personal trainers, the kind athletes have. Except that now, life coaching
is for everyone. Theres family coaching, parent coaching and coaching for retired people. As you
can see, anyone with a goal can benefit from it.

Brian: Thats terrific, Andrew. Well, thats about all weve got time for. Thanks for being with us today.

Andrew: My pleasure.

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Listening Practice 7:

Identity Chips (page 113)

Mike: Hey, Bill, I notice you keep waving your hand in front of your computer screen. Is there something
wrong with the computer?
Bill: No, but listen to this. Ive just had an electronic identity chip implanted in my right hand, so when
I wave my hand in front of the screen, my computer can access certain files. No more mouse devices
or passwords for me.
Mike: What are you talking about?
Bill: Some of us in the company were asked to volunteer in an experimental programme called Secure
Watch. I thought it would be interesting, so I signed up and now Im chipped along with 20 other
Mike: Chipped? Did it hurt?
Bill: No, not really.
Mike: So, how does it work?
Bill: The chip has a code, so when I wave my hand in front of the screen, a special scanner reads the
code and opens certain files.
Mike: OK, I get it, but whats so great about being chipped?
Bill: Well, its very convenient. I dont have to carry my company ID card and I dont have to remember
any more security passwords, which I always forget.
Mike: But remembering a new password isnt such a big deal.
Bill: Well, theres other stuff like getting into the car park or the building. I just walk in no more having
to go through security. I also use it in the cafeteria to pay for lunch. The company even installed
scanners in all the company cars, so I dont even need a key to open or start my car.
Mike: I can tell youre happy that youre chipped.
Bill: Yes, its made life at the office so much easier that last week I bought a scanner for my home
security system. Im now using my chip, instead of a key, to get into the house.
Mike: Does it work for your wife, too?
Bill: She still uses a key, but she wants to get a chip, too. You know, identity chips will become really
popular soon. Banks may let people use these chips instead of credit cards, and that would solve
a lot of problems because no one can steal your chip.
Mike: True, but the idea of having something planted in my body worries me. It cant be good for your
Bill: Thats not true. There are no medical risks. Actually, doctors want to put chips in people with health
risks, so it will be easy to get their medical history in an emergency.
Mike: Well, what about privacy issues?
Bill: What do you mean? No one can read the chip without a scanner.
Mike: Sure, but how do you know who has a scanner? Maybe someone in the company is tracking
everything you do. And what about computer hackers? They break into computers so easily that
they could hack into the chip, steal your identity and gain access to your bank account.
Bill: To be honest, I never thought about that.
Mike: If Secure Watch didnt sign a privacy agreement with you, they could give your code to anyone,
even the police.
Bill: Hmm. I should check that out, but I can always remove the chip and leave the programme. Anyway,
I heard that if the programme is successful, the company will probably ask all the employees to be
Mike: Well, before I got chipped, Id make sure that my privacy is protected. Now how about waving your
hand and buying me some lunch ...

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Listening Practice 8: A Special Home in Washington (page 114)
 and well have another traffic update for you soon ... Im Carol Everett, with Good Morning
London on 89FM. My first guest on this rainy Monday is Martin Blair. Welcome to the show,
Martin, and congratulations on winning the Literary Supplements prize for best non-fiction book
of the year.
Martin: T hanks, Carol. Its a pleasure to be here to talk about my latest book, The Presidents House.
Of course its about the official Washington, DC home of US presidents the White House.
Carol: N
 ow, you started writing the book shortly after Barack Obama became the USAs first
African-American president and you mention an interesting link in your book between the
White House and African-Americans.
Martin: A
 h yes its not widely known, but African-Americans slaves as well as those who were free
men were among the workers who helped to build the White House.
Carol: T hats very interesting. Another interesting fact is that James Hoban, the architect of the White
House, was an Irish immigrant.
Martin: Y
 es, Hoban was an immigrant, and so were many of the workers, particularly artisans from
Scotland and Italy. Despite the large number of workers, it took over six years to build what
George Washington named The Presidents House. Whats interesting is that Washington
approved Hobans design of the building and was personally involved in the construction, which
began in 1792, but he never got to live there.
Carol: I read in your book that in 1800, the nations second president, John Adams, and his wife Abigail
moved in even though the house wasnt completed.
Martin: Yes and Mrs Adams was quite unhappy living in a home that was still being constructed.
Carol: Speaking of construction you say that the house has been rebuilt several times.
Martin: T hats correct. The house was completely destroyed when the British set fire to it and almost
everything else in Washington during the War of 1812. The original grey stone exterior walls,
which had survived the fire, were painted white. The house has been white ever since, but it
wasnt actually called the White House until 1901, when President Theodore Roosevelt gave it
that name.
Carol: If I remember correctly, the house was rebuilt again after a fire in 1929, and again in 1946.
Martin: A
 ctually, that was in 1948. Since then, the house has remained much the same except, of
course, that every presidents family decorates the living area according to their own taste.
Carol: And I suppose theyve got plenty of space
Martin: T hats right! There are 132 rooms, including libraries and living rooms, 28 fireplaces, 35
bathrooms, two kitchens, and lots of secret passageways. In addition, there are beautiful gardens
and lawns, a tennis court, a swimming pool, a bowling alley, a running track and a cinema!
Carol: It sounds like it must be paradise for presidents children!
Martin: W
 ell, actually thats not entirely true because being a presidents child has got its difficulties
like needing to have protection wherever you go even on a date! But living in the White House
definitely has its advantages. President Gerald Fords daughter, Susan, who moved into the White
House in August 1979, recently described it as a house in which you can be waited on hand and
Carol: N
 ot exactly like in my home! Martin, were out of time. Thanks so much for joining us. Stay tuned
for news and traffic

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Listening Practice 9: Play Testers (page 115)
Jeremy: Im Jeremy Rhys, with Radio 8s Business Newsletter. My guest this afternoon is Meg Collins,
owner of MC Games. Based here in London, MC Games is doing exceptionally well in the
extremely competitive video-game industry. So, lets find out how. Meg, welcome to the show.
Meg: Thanks, Jeremy. Im glad to be here.
Jeremy: L ets start with a bit of background, Meg. The video-game industry is one that continues to grow.
In the USA in 2007, more video games were sold than DVDs and cinema tickets. And in 2008,
sales there reached $22 billion a rise of nearly 20 per cent. However, this is also an industry
where competition is stiff, and some games can now cost up to several million dollars to produce.
So how has MC Games become so successful?
Meg: W
 ell Jeremy, I think its mainly because our brilliant team of writers, artists and programmers
create games that people want to play. But game creation is a long and complicated process, so
things can easily be forgotten and mistakes can occur. Thats why I also always credit a lot of our
success to our play testers.
Jeremy: Play testers? Youll have to explain to our listeners what you mean by that, Meg.
Meg: O
 f course, Jeremy. Play testers are people who come in to play the video games and check that
the games, as kids say, play well.
Jeremy: At what point do play testers test a game?
Meg: W
 ell, play testers come in at various stages throughout a games development. Someone from the
design team stays in the room to record the play testers comments and to answer their questions.
Oh and these sessions are always videoed. Its amazing how much useful information these
tapes provide. For example, we can tell when a player is enjoying a game just by watching his
body language is he smiling, does he look frustrated? Sometimes, these messages give us more
information than the actual comments that play testers make.
Jeremy: Well, what do play testers comment on?
Meg: E verything from the storyline to the sound effects but most importantly, on what we call
playability. Things like how clear the games goals and rules are, how the game responds to the
controls, if the graphics look authentic
Jeremy: Could you give us an example of play-tester feedback?
Meg: C
 ertainly. Yesterday, four 12-year-old boys play tested a new motorbike-racing game.
The design team and other office staff had already played the latest version several times, and
they thought it was nearly perfect. But the boys immediately discovered a serious problem:
pushing the control buttons too hard made it impossible to navigate the motorbikes.
Jeremy: Its hard to believe nobody else had noticed that!
Meg: A
 ctually, everyone on the team had noticed it but nobody identified it as a real problem.
They simply pushed the control buttons more gently. However, the 12-year-old play testers didnt
have the patience for that, so they rated the game as unplayable. We wouldnt have known
it was a serious problem without the play testers help so you can see how essential they are
to our success.
Jeremy: Tell me, Meg, how do you find play testers?
Meg: W
 e advertise in local video arcades and shops in order to get testers who live in the area and can
easily get to our offices.
Jeremy: Can they test the games at home?
Meg: S ome companies allow play testers to work from home, but we prefer that they come into the
office. Thats why, unlike other companies who just give play testers a copy of the game, we pay
them and we also provide them with snacks and soft drinks.
Jeremy: S ounds great to me! I think Ill apply for the job! Well, its time for the news, but when we return,
Meg, Id like to talk about

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