Professional Documents
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Edwin Goble
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Editors Note
2013 Blog Posts
Sunday, December 8th, 2013
Sunday, December 29th, 2013
Editors Note
Ed contacted me as a result of reading my postings on a Facebook group that he had been
also a part of. He believed that I could accept his theory on the Kirtland Egyptian Papers
concerning Joseph Smiths Egyptian Alphabet and Grammar. His views on how Joseph assigned
meaning to the Egyptian Hieroglyphs inspired me. Hes definitely onto something.
Ed utilizes forensic evidence the Joseph Smith Papyri to do his research. As such he is not
in favor of the missing papyrus theory and blaming Josephs scribes for what Egyptologists
and critics cannot explain or apologize away. He has done a lot of research and study and as a
result has a lot of interesting concepts.
This book is a copy and paste of Eds blogs from:
http://www.egyptianalphabetandgrammar.blogspot.com
It is ordered from his oldest blog post to his most recent. No editing of the material content
has been made by me. I simply formatted the posts into a book form. The book is enjoyable
and enlightening as is. Now if only Egyptologist could recognize and accept at least the concept
of Eds work.
Now, in the cell nucleus, you have DNA, which is made up of various chemicals that encode
for proteins and so forth, which the machinery use to create those proteins. None of this
machinery structure means anything (or none of it is functional) without the actual "program" that
is encoded in the DNA. That is where the encoding containing the information that actually
makes the organism what it is, when those instructions in the DNA are carried out. Without this,
the cell does not function, and has no identity to set it apart from other types of cells.
What happens when a cell is highjacked by something that has other DNA? A virus co-opts
the machinery, and uses it for its own use, injecting other DNA into the cell which
appropriates the machinery to use it for its own purposes. The Syncretistic Adaptation or
Iconotropy principle is the same as a biological virus in a lot of ways. It co-opts the Egyptian
characters for use in such a way that they are now not functioning according to their original
use. They now have a different purpose, a different identity in a different context. And the
different interpretation in this other context requires an external dependency, meaning an
external key, to know the context.
Similarly, if a computer has a blank hard drive with no operating system, and no software
installed in the operating system, the computer is a mere template or empty shell. The only
thing that makes the computer useful is the software. There is a special piece of software on a
computer that gives it an identity, making it what it is. This is called the "Operating
System." The usual operating system that most people think of is Microsoft WindowsTM. But
there are others out there. Prior to Windows, there was MSDOS. And there is Mac OSTM. Other
less common ones are Linux and Unix and so forth.
Most people think that there is something fundamentally different between a MacintoshTM and
Windows PC. The reality is that the machinery is virtually identical. Or perhaps they think there
is something fundamentally different between an AndroidTM phone and an iPhoneTM. In many
cases, the hardware is comparable. But the identities of the devices are actually determined
technically by the software, not the hardware. Many of those phones have comparable ARM
processors.
Now, compare these analogies to the situation with the Sensen papyrus, and the program that
the Egyptologists are trying to install and run on it. Egyptologists (and most Mormon
Apologists and Apostate Critics incidentally) insist that the only valid operating system is the
system of interpretation that the Egyptologists deciphered from the Rosetta Stone, which is
mechanical Egyptian (a term that I have coined to refer to it). It is true that mechanical or
Egyptological Egyptian is a valid "operating system." It is true that it is the original and usual
way to use Egyptian characters. But Mormon Apologists are fine with regular iconotropy,
following Kevin Barney's adaptation theory, where they apply it to the facsimiles ONLY. This is
where my theory differs. I say the same principles apply to all the contents of the papyrus.
Now, with the KEP ("Egyptian Alphabet and Grammar" and related documents), we have
encountered yet another system of interpretation, or yet another type of Operating System for
the Sensen Papyrus, which can now be used to interpret it. And incidentally, it is the same one
already used by the Facsimiles. It wasn't the way the original author of the papyrus
intended. But it is the way another user intended. And the rules for the system this other user is
using is defined in this other external document which is the key. It is the way the papyrus is
used in the KEP (or Kirtland Egyptian Papers, being Joseph Smith's notebook, as the external
key), and people can deny this, but eventually the truth about this will endure.
Apple doesn't necessarily want their computers used this way with Windows operating systems
or Linux, but the dirty secret is that Microsoft WindowsTM can be installed on an Apple
MacintoshTM.
Similarly, it doesn't matter what the Egyptologists say about the KEP. It only matters that the
ancient Syncretist Egyptians or Jews or whoever they are invented the system of interpretation,
and Joseph Smith restored it.
This fits perfectly with the concept of incarnation or embodiment which were written about by
both Professor James Faulconer and Hugh Nibley. Faulconer coined the term "incarnation" to
describe the use of symbols this way. The idea is that mythological themes of the Egyptian
characters actually end up representing historical figures that closely follow the mythical themes
of the characters. For example, as Barney points out, much in the life of Osiris in the myth ends
up being a parallel to the life of Abraham, and therefore, the symbol for Osiris incarnates
Abraham, and the two become entwined because of the common theme.
The roll that contained Facsimile #1 and Facsimile #3 of the Book of Abraham, as Egyptology
has shown, is the Hor papyrus of the Book of Breathings, or the Sensen document. Facsimile
#1 and Facsimile #3 were interpreted Abrahamically by Joseph Smith. As Barney points out,
Egyptologically speaking, Osiris is not literally Abraham, when he lies on the Lion Couch in
Facsimile #1. But Osiris becomes Abraham by incarnation (using Professor Faulconer's
terminology), because that is the way the symbol is used. It is thematically and symbologically
tied to Abraham. And, as I point out in other posts in this blog, in this way, the figure of Osiris
becomes an abstraction, or an empty template, for use in other contexts. Therefore, the meaning
of Abraham was ASSIGNED to the figure of Osiris. Osiris is not Abraham literally, but through
a value assignment, much like a variable in computer science or algebra.
In the first missionary discussion pamphlet for our Church published in 1986 (from the era that I
was a missionary before the time of Preach My Gospel), it says: Most people believe in a
Supreme being, even though they may call him by different names. We know that God
lives. We want to share with you our feelings about him. This shows that as a missionary
technique, we apply the concepts people already have of a divine being to teach them about
God. Because we build on the common beliefs that we hold with them. We don't tear down
their beliefs, because they already have a lot of truth. And different names for the same being
doesn't effect the fact that he is who he is. Similarly, in the Letter of Aristeas, an ancient Jewish
pseudepigraphical work, the author of it who seems to have been a Jew, wrote the following
about the pagans in antiquity who worshiped God the best way they knew:
They [the Jews] worship the same God, the Lord and Creator of the Universe, as all other men, as we ourselves, . . .
though we call him by different names, such as Zeus or Dis. This name was very appropriately bestowed upon him
by our first ancestors, in order to signify that He through whom all things are endowed with life and come into
being, is necessarily the Ruler and Lord of the Universe. [iv]
So, as you can see here, for people in our day, it is strange that this ancient Jewish author
would be applying the names of Zeus or Dis to the God of the Jews, who we know as
Jehovah. Thus, the figure of Zeus becomes a place-holder for the true god, even though he is a
mythological figure. This is because some people have always assumed that the Jews had an
aversion to things of pagan origin. But their assumptions were false. This was an adaptation of
these names to Jehovah, not that he originally had these names. Those names were originally
used for false gods by the pagans. The false pagan gods remain false. But the concept of a
Jew applying these names to his own God, which is the true God, in the mind of that Jew,
actually makes Jehovah take on the characteristics and roles of that god, which is reasonable,
because in most cases, he does have those roles in reality. Not that it makes him false. But it
applies the symbology of the name upon the true God. Thus, the true God becomes the true
incarnation of the perfect divine attributes that were falsely attributed to a false god previously,
that doesn't even exist. In this way, the names and figures of these other gods actually became
useful as symbols when applied to the true God. This odd practice was manifest in another
archaeological find only recently. The seal of a family that served priestly functions in the first
temple of Jerusalem was recently found in an archaeological dig in the City of David. But the
nature of the symbol has shocked people, because they never would have expected it. And this
actually appears in the Jerusalem Post:
A stone seal bearing the name of one of the families who acted as servants in the First Temple and then returned to
Jerusalem after being exiled to Babylonia has been uncovered in an archeological excavation in Jerusalem's City of
David . . . [T]he name "Temech" [is] engraved on it . . . The seal . . . portrays a common and popular cultic scene . . .
And in this scene, curiously enough, A crescent moon, the symbol of the chief Babylonian god Sin, appears on the
top of the altar . . . And, this fact seemed not to have disturbed the Jews who used it on their own seal . . .[v]
The best explanation is adaptation of these symbols for use in the worship of
Jehovah. Similarly, Kerry Shirts, a (former) LDS scholar, pointed out that in Facsimile #3 of the
Book of Abraham, the Egyptian symbols used are the symbols for Osiris, Isis, and Anubis,
etc. But these were applied to the characters of Abraham, Pharaoh, and a servant of the prince,
Olimlah by the Ancient Interpreter of the Book of Abraham. There is an entwining of the real
figures with the mythical ones where they actually become each other through a common
theme. Similarly, in Facsimile #2 of the Book of Abraham, figure 7 is the symbol for the Egyptian
god Min. But the explanation as Joseph Smith gave it to us, says that it represents God sitting
upon his throne . . .
William Hamblin pointed out that a technical term for this principle of adaptation or appropriation
of the symbols of other cultures for usage outside their original context is "iconotropy."[vi] This
term was coined by mythologist William Graves.[vii] Hamblin stated:
We also all agree that J[oseph] S[mith's] interpretations of the facsimiles represents iconotropy--the intentional . . .
or unintentional . . . reinterpretation of the iconography of one culture according to the iconographic norms of
another culture. This is extraordinarily common phenomena in ancient cultures. The only question is whether
J[oseph] S[mith] engaged in iconotropy or whether an ancient author engaged in iconotropy, and J[oseph] S[mith]
correctly revealed an ancient Hebrew iconotropic interpretation of the facsimiles.[viii]
Egyptians around the time of our papyri who started using a peculiar system of interpretation on
many Egyptian documents and "magical papyri." It appears that the Kirtland Egyptian Papers
and the Facsimile explanations, as well as Oliver Cowdery's explanations of the artwork on the
Book of the Dead papyri among the Joseph Smith papyri cannot be segregated from each other,
and represent the same exact system.
[v] The Jerusalem Post, Jan 17, 2008, First Temple seal found in Jerusalem, by Etgar Lefkovits,
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1200475897717&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
[vi] See for example http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/iconotropy
[vii] See for example http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Greek_Myths
[viii] http://www.mormondialogue.org/topic/53628-missing-papyrus/page__st__20
[ix] See for example http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syncretism
I assert that Joseph Smith was responsible for the concept in this quote. Just because W. W.
Phelps wrote the statement doesn't mean that the idea is his! Others say that William W. Phelps
was essentially responsible for the project of the KEP (Egyptian Alphabet and Grammar), not
Joseph Smith. Though this statement is not found in the Kirtland Egyptian Papers, credence
ought to be given to the idea that it originated with Joseph Smith, or at least the concepts in
it. Then, there is the oft quoted statement from Joseph Smith, which shows content that is not
found in any other place except for the Kirtland Egyptian Papers:
"Were I an Egyptian, I would exclaim Jah-oh-eh, Enish-go-on-dosh, Flo-ees-Flos-is-is; [O the earth! the power of
attraction, and the moon passing between her and the sun.]" (http://www.mormondialogue.org/topic/25580-josephsmith-and-ancient-egyptian/)
Similarly, it is quite clear that all of the ideas contained in the astronomical and cosmological
statements made in the Kirtland Egyptian Papers ultimately came from Joseph Smith. About
these astronomical concepts, Joseph Smith wrote that in company with Brothers Oliver
Cowdery and W. W. Phelps, and during the research, the principles of astronomy as understood
by Father Abraham and the ancients unfolded to our understanding, the particulars of which will
appear hereafter. (History of the Church, vol. 2, p. 286). Remember, those men were his
scribes, and Joseph Smith himself stated, in a journal entry for March 3, 1843: On returning to
my office after dinner, I spoke the following proverb: 'For a man to be great, he must not dwell
on small things, though he may enjoy them;' this shows that a Prophet cannot well be his own
scribe, but must have some one to write for him. (Leland R. Nelson (ed.), Journal of Joseph:
The Personal History of A Modern Prophet, p. 213; History of the Church, 5:298).
Similarly, in a book review in BYU Studies of George D. Smith's book, An Intimate Chronicle:
The Journals of William Clayton, James B. Allen wrote:
Smith, Brigham Young, Heber C. Kimball, and other Church leaders often called on their scribes and secretaries to
record their journals for them. No responsible historian presumes to publish such journals as part of the papers
of the scribes who wrote them. Such journals are the journals of those for whom they were written. Smith
correctly observes that when Stanley B. Kimball published the journals of Heber C. Kimball, he left this one out.
That still does not legitimize publishing it here. If such a journal could be called a Clayton journal, then so could the
journal Clayton wrote for Kimball while crossing the plains in 1847. That journal has been published twice-as a
Heber C. Kimball journal. The temple journal is in exactly the same category. If it is to be published at all, it
should be published with a Kimball collection, not a Clayton collection.
(https://byustudies.byu.edu/showtitle.aspx?title=7457, emphasis added)
Yet, supposedly responsible individuals insist that it was the scribes that are responsible for the
Kirtland Egyptian Papers. In EVERY OTHER INSTANCE, nobody questions that the Prophet
Joseph Smith was responsible for the writings he produced. Only in this instance, they insist that
W. W. Phelps was the mastermind. Above, a historian was in no uncertain terms telling us that
what is written by someone's scribe is actually the property of the person for whom it was
written. The person for whom it was written is the author. That person is the one responsible
alone for the content. But, since the Scribes Did It Theory is a critical piece of the house of cards
to uphold the Missing Papyrus Theory, certain individuals suggest that we should believe
something that no responsible historian would believe in any other case! We are supposed
to suspend good judgement just in this one case, according to them. Sorry, but Joseph Smith
was the Prophet, the one with the keys. W. W. Phelps was not some "mastermind" behind the
Egyptian Alphabet and Grammar project. He was just a scribe. That's like saying that Oliver
Cowdery was the mastermind behind the translation of the Book of Mormon when he was just a
Why should the Kirtland Egyptian Papers be the exception because certain individuals try to
strong arm us to believe it, without evidence, when all the evidence points in the opposite
direction?
Posted by Kokobim at 6:56 PM
Here is an example of a monogram for the letters I, H and S, or perhaps for someone with initials
of I H S:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/47/IHS-monogram-interwined.jpg)
Here is an example of a royal cypher:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/03/EVIIIR.PNG/120px-EVIIIR.PNG)
The Royal Cypher of King Edward VIII
To dissect monograms or cyphers, one would take it apart and treat each piece individually. In
the IHS monogram, one would separate out I from the IHS compound and use it on its own. Or
one would separate out the crown from the King Edward VIII cypher compound and use it on its
own, disconnected from the others.
Of this type of concept in the Egyptian Alphabet and Grammar where one "dissects" a compound
character, Richley Crapo, a credentialed LDS anthropologist, writes:
"In addition to the column of hieroglyphics from the Book of Breathings, it contains studies of the individual
strokes that form complete hieroglyphic figures or words. Each stroke has been associated with a collection of
semantically related English words or phrases . . . If one then turns to the section in which individual hieroglyphics
(each composed of numerous strokes) that are associated with the Book of Abraham verses, the meanings
associated with the strokes in each hieroglyphic *are* found in the corresponding verses. That is, there is a
consistent set of meaningful relationships between what is said in a particular verse and the strokes that happen
to be present in its associated hieroglyphic. This gives us some insight into what Joseph Smith seems to have been
Chris Smith and Ed Ashment refer to these strokes of characters that have their own meaning in
the Sensen System of Interpretation of the papyrus by the term "lexeme." The dictionary
definition of the word lexeme is a unit of lexical meaning. Others have used the term
"grapheme" (for example, as we saw in the quote above about monograms). Grapheme means
essentially the same thing: the smallest semantically distinguishing unit of a written language.
This concept is definitely not an alien one to mechanical Egyptian. For example, in the
hieroglyph for the god Osiris, there are three separate parts, each that can have its own meaning
separately.
(https://encryptedtbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRuDLTUyd_X25Bndfx4UnXdjwjiAMc20cylv0mVAB
qEOkeHL9bZ)
There is a picture of a god (the figure that is seated), a picture of an eye, and a picture of a
throne. Osiris is a god, a seer (as the eye denotes), and a king (as the throne denotes). Each one
on its own, if separated from this context, would mean something different. A throne by itself
would be a picture of a throne, an eye a picture of an eye, and a picture of a god. Each one of
these has a separate meaning if they are used separately. But together they are used for a
hieroglyph that means something different than the pieces individually.
Another example is the magical dissection of the wedjat-eye ideogram, which is the classic
precedent for this very thing. This demonstrates that these concepts are definitely not alien to
Egyptian characters. Hugh Nibley notes how the ancient Egyptians would practice the magical
ritual of the wedjat Eye:
Wedjat means the unharmed one. The moon is unharmed or complete when it is full, and any observer can note
the degrees by which it achieves fulness. By degrees means steps, and the Egyptians often represent the waxing
moon by fourteen steps, and the full moon by the conventional wedjat-eye . . . The strange seminal power
symbolized by the wedjat-eye is strikingly brought forth in its significance in Egyptian mathematics. The basic
fractions from 1/2 to 1/64 used in grain and land measurement are represented by various parts of the wedjat as the
eye of the Falcon-god Horus . . . (which) was torn to fragments by the wicked god Seth . . . Later, the ibis-god,
Thoth, miraculously 'filled' or 'completed' . . . the eye, joining together the parts . . . When these fractions are all
added up, the total is 63/64; the missing 1/64 was supplied magically by Thoth. (Hugh Nibley, One Eternal
Round, pp. 272-273)
(http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac236/Lyte/Wedjat.gif)
Nibley shows a diagram in his book of the parts of the wedjat eye that the scribes use as
symbols of fractions. Each piece of the symbol has its own meaning. Below is a diagram
similar to Nibley's showing the fractional values that each section of the wedjat eye represents
that can be separated out from the original drawing:
(http://www.ancient-egypt.co.uk/ashmolean/images/ashmolean_sep2006_-152.jpg)
As Joseph Smith would say, here is "this character shown dissected":
(http://ironmaiden-bg.com/en/images/stories/horus00.jpg)
It is unlikely that the original usage of the wedjat eye started out this way. It is more likely that it
started out as just stylized picture of an eye. The first guy that drew an eye this way didn't have
the idea in mind to tear the character apart in sections. Later on, certain Egyptians invented the
mythology and the SYSTEM OF INTERPRETATION of how to dissect the pieces of the eye
and what the interpretation was for each section of the eye. This is precisely what I am
suggesting for the Sensen Papyrus class of documents as a whole. That a system of
interpretation was invented after the fact for the usage of its individual characters in the papyrus,
which was not necessarily the intent of the original author of the document.
Our intent is to rediscover the mythology and the background of the System of Interpretation for
the Sensen Papyrus, its ancient context.
Posted by Kokobim at 2:19 PM