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#14. aprili-maisi. 2010 Georgian Newspaper in USA and Canada fasi 1$

27 maisi diasporis dRea!

"me ki ar 16gv.
gamxarebia am
nabijis gadadgma" RmerTo, mSvidobiT
mudam maxsovs, rom Cemi
daabrune
fesvebi saqarTveloSia da yvela qarTveli
minda, yovelTvis gverdiT
vedge Cems saqarTvelos... samSobloSi...
i n t e r v i u warmatebul qarTvel legionerTan
zaza faCuliasTan interviu

lela vaSakiZe 4-5gv. saqarTvelos

xelnawerTa
erovnuli `minda giTxraT,
~emigrantebo, davbrundeT
centris rom Tqven
stumrebi ara
direqtorTan,
saqarTveloSi!..~ profesor

3gv. buba
kudavasTan
xarT, Tqven
maspinZlebi
pirveli qarTveli
11gv.
8
xarT saqarT-
aviatoris win didi veloSi da Cven
aleqsandre gegmebi gvaqvs... gelodebiT,
gv. velodebiT
qarTvelis
Tqvens
amerikuli ocneba~
dabrunebas!~

s d
u R i n t e r v i u
diasporis sakiTxebSi

l e saqarTvelos
saxelmwifo ministri,

s mirza (papuna)
saqarTvelos
i a
daviTaiasTan
nakrebi
e Cveni s 3 gv. ZiudoSi evropis
`ar daiviwyoT Cempionia
r rusTaveli
romis
e mkvidri~
w
qarTuli ena...~ 20gv.
a
b
xdeba

u qarTvel emigrantTa sayuradRebod!

i l
rusTavis SesasvlelSi, respublikur avto auqcionTan iwyeba mikro
13gv.
pirvelad amerikis
`amerikuli dasaxlebis~ proeqtireba, Tavisi sacxovrebeli saxlebiT,
bariT, piceriiT da sxva. iqneba amerikuli manqanebis gamofena-gayidva.
visac survili gaqvT wilobrivi monawileoba miiRoT, dagvikavSirdiT:
istoriaSi!

s romSi i 267-237-3753.
redkolegia
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30 maisi TviTmmarTvelobis arCevnebis dRea! GTYCBKDFYBFIB

 2 aprili-maisi, 2010
`Tqveni
winaprebis
suli da
Zvlebi aq
saqarTveloSia.
amitom adre
Tu gvian unda
ifiqroT
ilia II,
samSobloSi sruliad saqarTvelos
dabrunebaze.~ kaTolikos-patriarqi
zviad gamsaxurdias
Tema isev aqtualuria!
am striqonebis avtors eWvi ar
epareba, rom prezidenti zviad gam-
saxurdia moklulia ruseTis impe-
riis SenarCunebis momxre politi-
kosebis SekveTiT...
didi xania msmenia isic, rom Sem-
sruleblebi arian SevardnaZis mari-
onetuli reJimis mier mosyiduli
ubeduri Zmebi (bunebrivia, gamoZie-
bamde da sasamarTlos ganaCenamde
araeTikuria maTi gvaris dasaxele-
ba).
giorgi da konstantine gamsaxu-
rdiebis gancxadebebma da 27 aprilis
`kurieris~ specialurma gadacemam
ufro aqtualuri gaxada saqarTve-
losTvis Tavganwiruli preziden-
tis - zviad gamsaxurdias - mkvle-
obis gamoZiebisa da sasamarTlos
gziT Sefasebis aucilebloba.
gazeT `erTobis~ redaqcias imedi
aqvs, male aexdeba farda prezident
zviad gamsaxurdias mkvlelobas da
mTeli msoflio male gaigebs namd-
vil ambavs, Tu dasavleTis
wayruebis fonze rogor
daamxes rusulma specsam-
saxurebma damoukideblo-
bisa da evrosivrcisken msw-
rafavi saqarTvelos kanoni-
eri xelisufleba, xelisuf-
leba, romelmac
sabWoTa imper-
iis jars sao-
kupacio sta-
tusi mianiWa
jer kidev 1991
wlis 15 seq-
tembers.
papuna daviTaia: `putinma
axali strategiuli
gegma SeimuSava~
diasporis sakiTxebSi saxelm-
wifo ministris papuna daviTaias
gancxadebiT, ruseTma, kerZod ki
federaciis premier-ministr vl-
adimer putinma saqarTvelos
winaaRmdeg axali strategiuli
gegma SeimuSava.
`saqarTvelos winaaRmdeg putinma
axali strategiuli gegma SeimuSava,
romlic surs qarTuli diasporis
saSualebiT ganaxorcielos. ruse-
Tis premieri Tavis zraxvebis Sesas-
ruleblad sankt-peterburgSi moR-
vawe kriminaluri warsulis mqone
aleqsandre ebraliZe iyenebs,
romlis saSualebiTac msoflios
sxvadasxva qveynebSi mcxovrebi
qarTvelebi 23-24 aprils e.w. "saqarT-
velos xalxTa ucxoeTis diaspo-
rebis msoflio forumze" miiwvia.
kremls surs msoflios daanaxos,
F[FKB FV,T,B
rom viTom arsebobs xalxi, romelic
saqarTvelos xelisuflebasTan
arian dapirispirebulebi~. _ ganac-
xada papuna daviTaiam.
saxelmwifo ministris informa-
ciiT, aRniSnul forumze qarTve-
lebis Casayvanad ruseTis xelisuf-
leba finansebs ar zogavs da is vinc
ebraliZis mier organizebul forum-
Si miiRebs monawileobas xarjebis
srul - samgzavro da sankt-peter-
burgSi cxovrebis xarjebis anazRa-
urebas sTavazobs.
`ruseTs surs warmoaCinos, rom
qarTveli xalxis Sekreba da konso-
lidireba swored ruseTSi xdeba,
magram es ase ar moxdeba. qarTveli
xalxis konsolidireba da Sekrebis
adgili saqarTveloa da 26-27 maiss
qarTveli diasporis warmomadgen-
lebis namdvili Sekreba TbilisSi
tradiciulad gaimarTeba, rodesac
Cven diasporis dRes aRvniSnavT~.
misve informaciiT, `saqarTvelos
xalxTa ucxoeTis diasporebis mso-
flio forumze~ qarTuli dias-
poris warmomadgenlebis 99% Casv-
laze uari ganacxada, Tumca saxel-
mwifo ministri ar gamoricxavs, rom
`moiZebnebian adamianebi, vinc ebra-
liZe-putinis e.w. msoflio forumSi
miiReben monawileobas~.
`mTavaria is,
rac keTdeba,
TiToeulma
TqvenTaganma
igrZnos, rom
gigi ugulava, misTvis
Tbilisis
keTdeba!~
merobis kandidati.
presis Tavisuflebis
xarisxiT saqarTvelo
126-e adgilzea
FREEDOM HOUSE-ma msoflioSi
presis Tavisuflebis reitingi `pre-
sis Tavisufleba-2010~ gamoaqveyna.
saqarTvelo, hondurasTan, nepal-
Tan da paragvaisTan erTad, 126-e
adgils inawilebs (reitingi 59) da
miniWebuli aqvs nawilobriv Tavi-
sufalis (partly free) statusi.
msoflioSi presis Tavisuflebis
yvelaze maRali xarisxia fineTSi,
islandiaSi, norvegiasa da SvedeTSi
(am qveynebis reitingia - 10). pirvel
aTeulSi Sedian, aseve, dania, belgia,
luqsemburgi, andora, Sveicaria,
lixteSteini. am qveynebs miniWebuli
aqvT Tavisufalis (free) statusi.
postsabWoTa qveynebidan siaSi
pirvelia estoneTi, romelic, germa-
niasTan erTad, me-19 adgils inawi-
lebs (reitingi 17) da miniWebuli
aqvs Tavisufalis statusi. Semdeg
modian CexeTi, romelic, aseve, Tavi-
sufali presis qveynad iTvleba da
24-e adgils aSS-sTan erTad iyofs.
somxeTs 146-e adgilzea (reitingi
66), xolo azerbaijani 172-e - adgi-
lze (reitingi 78). orive qveyanas ara-
Tavisufalis statusi aqvs miniWe-
buli.
rac Seexeba ruseTs, siaSi 175-e
adgilzea gambiasTan erTad (rei-
tingSi 81) da araTavisufalis
statusiT (not free) sargeblobs. siaSi
bolo adgilzea CrdiloeT korea.
reitingSi sul 196 qveyana moxvda.
aqedan Tavisufalis statusi mni-
Webuli aqvs 69 qveynas (35%), nawi-
lobriv Tavisufalis 64-s (33%) da
ara Tavisuaflis 63-s (32%).
angariSis presrelizSi, romelic
organizaciis oficialur vebgverd-
zea gamoqveynebuli, naTqvamia, rom
msoflioSi presis Tavisuflebis
xarisxi wina welTan SedarebiT
Semcirda. yoveli eqvsi adamianidan
mxolod erTi cxovrobs Tavisufali
presis qveyanaSi.
presis Tavisuflebis xarisxi, Zi-
riTadad, afrikis, laTinuri ame-
rikis da axlo aRmosavleTis qvey-
nebSi gauaresda. erTaderTi, sadac
presis Tavisuflebis xarisxis gaum-
jobesda, azia-wynari okeanis regi-
onia.
angariSSi xazgasmiT aris aRniS-
nulia, rom CineTSi, ruseTSi, venesu-
elasa da sxva qveynebSi mediis mu-
SaobaSi saxelmwifo sistematurad
ereva.
presis Tavisuflebis mxriv yve-
laze uaresi viTareba Semdeg qvey-
nebSi - belorusi, birma, kuba, ekva-
toruli gvinea, eritrea, irani,
livia, CrdiloeT korea, TurqmeneTi
da uzbekeTi. angariSSi aRniSnulia,
rom aq presis Tavisuflebis xarisxi
saerTod ar arsebobs.
mTavroba quTaisSi
6 aprils quTaisis akaki wereT-
lis saxelmwifo universitetSi
mTavrobis gasvliTi sxdoma
gaimarTa, sadac prezidentma 16 pro-
eqti ganixila. sxdomis mTavari Tema
ganaTlebis sistemis reforma iyo.
momavali wlidan yvela pirvel-
klasels saxelmZRvaneloebis nacv-
lad kompiuteri daurigdeba, romel-
Sic CatvirTuli iqneba dawyebiTi
klasis programa da moswavleebs
SeeZlebaT misi saSualebiT iswa-
vlon kiTxva. prezidentma isic
aRniSna, rom inglisuri enis swav-
leba ara mexuTe, aramed pirveli
klasidan unda daiwyos. aseve mouw-
oda televiziebs, gauSvan inglisur-
enovani filmebi subtitrebiT.
mixeil saakaSvilis TqmiT, moma-
vali wlidan kompiuterebi okupi-
rebul teritoriebze mcxovreb
bavSvebsac daurigdebaT.
maqsimum 5-6
weliwadSi,
saqarTvelodan
emigraciis
ekonomikuri
mizezi da
mixeil
sababi aRar
saakaSvili,
saqarTvelos prezidenti iarsebebs.
adgilobrivi
TviTmmarTvelobis
arCevnebi 30 maiss
gaimarTeba
adgilobrivi TviTmmarTvelobis
arCevnebi 2010 wlis 30 maiss gaimar-
Teba, - amis Sesaxeb naTqvamia saqarT-
velos prezidentis 30 martis #254
gankargulebaSi, romelic prezi-
dentis oficialur vebgverdze
gamoqveynda.
`saqarTvelos konstituciis 1043
muxlisa da saqarTvelos saarCevno
kodeqsis 12913 muxlis Sesabamisad,
adgilobrivi TviTmmarTvelobis
erToba UNITY
warmomadgenlobiTi organos - sakre-
bulos da q. Tbilisis meris
arCevnebi dainiSnos 2010 wlis 30
maiss~, - naTqvmia prezidentis
gankargulebaSi.
saqarTvelos konstituciaSi
cvlilebis Tanaxmad, adgilobrivi
TviTmmarTvelobis organoebis
riggareSe da dedaqalaqis meris
arCevnebi araugvianes 2010 wlis 1
ivnisis unda Catardes, arCevnebis
`TqvenTan
erTad, Tqveni
monawileobiT
Cven SevcvliT
Tbiliss da
irakli
mTels alasania,
Tbilisis
saqarTvelos~ merobis kandidati
TariRi prezidentis mier arCevne-
bamde araugvianes 60 dRisa unda
daniSnuliyo.
"saarCevno kodeqsSi" ki, adgil-
obrivi TviTmmarTvelobis arCev-
nebis konkretuli TariRia gawerili
- 30 maisi. adgilobrivi TviTmmarT-
velobis arCevnebi ar Catardeba
eredvis, TiRvis, qurTis, aJarisa da
axalgoris munici palitetebSi.
aRniSnul munici palitetebSi Sesa-
bamis adgilobriv organoebs
uflebamosileba SeunarCundebaT.
"saarCevno kodeqsSi" ganxorcie-
lebuli cvlilebebiT, Seicvala
sakrebuloebis dakompleqtebis
wesic da raodenobebic. maT Soris,
dedaqalaqis sakrebulo 50 wevramde
gaizrdeba da iq 25 maJoritari da
25 proporciuli wesiT arCeuli
deputati iqneba. dRvandeli sakre-
bulo 37 wevrisgan aris dakomp-
leqtebuli.
amasTan, Seicvala sakrebulos
wevris da merobis kandidatis krite-
riumebic. kerZod, Tu aqamde saval-
debulo iyo, rom maT saqarTveloSi
10 weli mainc unda ecxovraT, axla
kenWisyraSi monawileoba 5 wlis
cxovrebis Sedegadac SeeZlebaT.
amasTan, ganxorcielebuli cvli-
lebiT, pirdapiri wesiT mxolod
dedaqalaqis meris arCevnebi gaimar-
Teba.
saqarTvelos moqalaqeebs
TurqeTSi tranzitis dros
sagarantio gadasaxadis
gadaxda aRar mouwevT
saqarTvelos moqalaqeebs Tur-
qeTSi tranzitis dros sagarantio
gadasaxadis gadaxda aRar mouwevT.
saqarTvelos sagreo saqmeTa
ministri grigol vaSaZe TurqeTis
respublikaSi vizitis dros qveynis
transportis da sabaJo samsaxur-
ebis xelmZRvanelobas Sexvda, sadac
mxarebi SeTanxmdnen, rom saqarT-
velos moqalaqeebi TurqeTSi tran-
zitis ganxorcielebis dros
sagarantio gadasaxads aRar gadaix-
dian. aRniSnuli gadasaxadi moqa-
laqeebs damatebiT teqnikur da
finasur problemebs uqmnida.
SegaxsenebT, rom 1 maisidan Tur-
qeTis xelisuflebam qveynis teri-
toriaze tranzitul gadazidvebze
rogorc satranzito safasuri, aseve
sagarantio gadasaxadic daawesa.
TurqeTSi datvirTuli avtosat-
ransporto saSualebisTvis satran-
zito gavlis safasurs 1 200 evro
da carieli avtomanqanebze dawe-
sebuli 600 evro iyo, xolo sagaran-
tio gadasaxadi tvirTis TviTRi-
rebulebiT ganisazRvreboda, rome-
lic gadamzidebs TurqeTis teri-
toriis datovebis Semdeg ukan ubr-
undebodaT.
 UNITY erToba BYNTHDBE aprili-maisi, 2010 3
diasporis warmomadgenlebi, rac See-

`ar daiviwyoT qarTuli ena...~ xeba kongress, kongresi saintereso

_ batono papuna, mokled gviT-
xariT Tqvns mier dasaxul amoca-
nebsa da samomavlo perspeqtivebis
Sesaxeb?
_ Cveni amocanaa farTo speqtris
pirdapiri kontaqtebisa da kavSirebis
damyareba sazRvargareT mcxovreb Ta-
namemamuleebTan, saqarTvelos farg-
lebs gareT moqmed saqarTvelosTan
megobrobiT an saqarTveloTi dainte-
resebul qarTvelologiur, samecni-
ero da sazogadoebriv centrebTan,
organizaciebTan, aseve sazogado-
ebebTan, fondebis warmomadgenle-
bTan, sxva fizikur da iuridiul pi-
rebTan;
sazRvargareT mcxovreb Taname-
mamuleTa Soris erovnuli TviT-
Segnebis SenarCunebis xelSewyoba;
ucxoeTSi mcxovrebi Tanamema-
muleebis, maTi organizaciebis, sa-
qarTveloTi dainteresebuli organi-
zaciebisa da fizikuri pirebis Sesaxeb
sainformacio-analitikuri sakontaq-
to kompiuteruli bankis Seqmna;
xelSewyoba ucxoeTSi mcxovrebi
Tanamemamuleebisa da sazRvargareT
moqmedi Sesabamisi organizaciebis-
Tvis qarTveli xalxis istoriis, ku-
lturisa da Tanamedrove saxel-
mwifoebrivi aRmSeneblobis gacnoba-
Seswavlis saqmeSi;
kompetenciis Sesabamisad, saqar-
Tvelos farglebs gareT arsebuli
qarTuli sulieri da materialuri
kulturis uZravi da moZravi Zegle-
bis, siZveleebis, ganZebis, xelnawe-
rebis, arqivebisa da sxva istoriul-
kulturuli faseulobebis moZieba,
aRnusxva.
_ batono papuna, ras ityviT dRe-
vandeli qarTuli diasporis Sesaxeb?
_ garkveuli mizezis gamo, gan-
diasporis sakiTxebSi
saqarTvelos saxelmwifo
ministris aparatis samomavlo
gegmebis Sesaxeb, zogadad
qarTuli diasporis Sesaxeb,
diasporis sakiTxebSi
saqarTvelos saxelmwifo
ministri, batoni mirza (papuna)
daviTaia gvesaubreba.
sakuTrebiT bolo oci wlis ganmav-
lobaSi, qarTuli diasporis ricxvi
gaizarda. maTTan dakavSirebiT Cven
gvaqvs dagegmili sxvadasxva prog-
ramis ganxorcieleba gansxvavebuli
mimarTulebebiT. es gaxlavT sagan-
manaTleblo programebi, romlebic
gulisxmobs sakvirao skolebisa da
zogadad qarTuli ganaTlebis mxar-
daWeras. iniciativa ZiriTadad Cveni
diasporis warmomadgenlebisgan mo-
dis, Cven maT xels vuwyobT, va-
maragebT saxelmZRvaneloebiTa da
programebiT. igive SemiZlia vTqva
kulturis mimarTulebiT. sxvadasxva
qveyanaSi iqmneba qarTuli ansamblebi,
Teatraluri dasebi, isini sargeb-
lobs saxelmwifo daxmarebebiT, rac
gulisxmobs aRWurvilobis, sxvada-
sxva instrumentis, erovnuli for-
mebis miwodebas, maswavleblebis
dafinansebas. rac Seexeba biznesisa
da ekonomikis sferos. momavalSi
vapirebT am programebis ganxorcie-
lebas am mimarTulebiTac. igulisx-
meba _ Cveni diasporis CarTva qarTul
ekonomikaSi. anu gavmarTavT maTTvis
sainformacio prezentaciebs, rac maT
SesaZleblobas miscems miiRon in-
formacia imis Sesaxeb, Tu romel
sferoSi aris momgebiani Tanxis daban-
deba da rogor SeiZleba saqarTv-
eloSi maTi kapitalis warmatebulad
ganTavseba.
_ Tqven axlaxan imogzaureT
TurqeTSi da SexvdiT TurqeTis
qarTul diasporas, ras gvetyviT Tu-
rqeTSi mcxovreb qarTvelebTan da-
kavSirebiT?
_ Cveni diasporis warmomadgen-
lebi sakmaod kargad arian CarTulni
politikaSi, biznesSi, kulturaSi,
garda amisa, isini axerxeben qarTuli
enis, qarTul kulturis SenarCunebas.
atareben qarTuli folkloris fes-
tivalebs, aqvT araerTi qarTuli
ansambli. Cveni erT-erTi yvelaze
Zlieri diaspora swored TurqeTSia.
_ batono papuna, fiqrobT Tu
ara, rom Tqveni xelmZRvanelobiT
SesaZlebelia TbilisSi Catardes
msoflios qarTvelTa kongresi?
_ 27 maisi saqarTvelos preziden-
tma diasporis dRed gamoacxada, ukve
meore welia am dRes TbilisSi ikri-
bebian sxvadasxva qveynis qarTuli
ideaa, SesaZlebelia, amis Sesaxeb
fiqri. magram ver getyviT, rom axl-
ave daviwyebT muSaobas, vinaidan,
msgavsi RonisZiebis mowyoba gark-
veuli iuridiuli normebis dacviT
unda moxdes, rac Sesabamisi samuSa-
oebis CatarebasTan aris dakav-
Sirebuli.
_ rogorc mivxvdi, aparatis erT-
erTi mniSvnelovani prioriteti
qarTuli kulturis populariza-
ciaa...
_ ara mxolod. magram yvelaze
mniSvnelovani, ra Tqma unda aris is,
rom sazRvargareT mcxovrebma qarT-
velebma ar daiviwyon qarTuli ena,
maT unda igrZnon, rom qarTuli
saxelmwifos kulturul Tu ekono-
mikur ganviTarebaSi srulfasovani
adgili uWiravT. Cveni aparatisa da
ganaTlebis saministros ZalisxmeviT
Seiqmna erToblivi samuSao jgufi,
romelic sazRvargareT arsebuli
qarTul sakvirao skolebs specialur
programebs miawodebs. bunebrivia, es
muSaoba mimarTulia saamisod, rom
qarTvelma bavSvebma ucxoeTSi ar
daiviwyon ena, mieceT saSualeba
eziaron qarTul kulturas.
_rogorc viciT, Tqveni Taosn-
obiT 17-19 maiss tardeba biznes-tu-
ri saqarTveloSi. ra mizans em-
saxureba es biznes-turi?
_ misi mizania ucxoeTSi myofi
Cveni TanamemamuleebisTvis saqarTve-
los biznessivrcis gacnoba, maTi Ca-
rTva saqarTvelos ekonomikis ganvi-
TarebaSi. garda amisa, ucxoeTSi
myofi Cveni Tanamemamuleebis survi-
lia, saqarTveloSi dabrunebis Sem-
TxvevaSi aq Seiqmnan garkveuli eko-
nomikuri bazisi.
_ gmadlobT, warmatebebs gisur-
vebT.
mixeil mumlaZe

f[kf cfmfhsdtkjibf xtvb flubkb

_ b-no zurab, qarTuli
sazogadoeba Zalian kargad
icnobda mamaTqvens irakli
abaSiZes – poet-akademi-
koss, wlebis manZilze sa-
qarTvelos mweralTa kavS-
iris Tavmjdomares, mec-
nierebaTa akademiis vice-
prezidents, saqarTvelos
umaRlesi sabWos Tavmjdo-
mares, SoTa rusTavelis
saxelobis premiis pirvel
laureats da did mamuli-
Svils. bevri ician Tqvens
Sesaxebac, magram gTxovT
amerikaSi mcxovreb asi
aTas qarTvels miawodoT
mamaTqvenis ojaxisa da
Tqvens Sesaxeb ufro sruli
informacia.
_ upirveles yovlisa di-
di madloba am momarTvisa-
Tvis. CemTvis Tqveni interesi
namdvilad Zvirfasia.
daviwyeb imiT, rom 2009
wels mamaCems dabadebidan
100 weli Seusrulda da am
saiubileo TariRiT viyaviT
dakavebulni ojaxis wevrebi.
kulturis saministros dax-
marebiT moewyo saintereso
foto-gamofenebi Tbilissa
da quTaisSi; gamoica leq-
sebis krebuli, aseve say-
mawvilo poema `ras gadaurCa
Tbilisi~; rusTavelis Tea-
trSi Catarda poeziis saRa-
mo, iyo satelevizio gada-
cemebi; sruliad saqarTve-
los kaTolikos-patriarqma
ilia II-m samebis taZarSi
irakli abaSiZis mosaxsenie-
beli panaSvidi gadaixada,
rac gansakuTrebiT amaRel-
vebeli iyo CvenTvis. ra Tqma
unda sufrasTanac Sevikri-
beT axloblebi, mamaCemis me-
gobrebi da naTesavebi. mok-
led, mgoni es TariRi Rir-
seulad aRiniSna.
piradad Cemze aba ra giT-
xraT... myavs ori qaliSvili
da sami SviliSvili. maTgan
ufrosi biWi 26 maiss 2 wlis
gaxdeba, erTi Tvis Semdeg
gogona gaxdeba amave asakis,
xolo sul umcrosi biWi
jer 2 Tvisaa. saxlSi `ufaso
koncertebi~ gvaqvs. es Svi-
liSvilebi marTlac saoc-
reba yofila!
Cems umcros Zmas vaxtangs
4 vaJi hyavs. ase rom, namd-
vilad vzrunavT demogra-
fiaze. ufrosi da irine ki
erTi vaJis dedaa da 2 go-
gonas bebia.
_ qarTuli encikloped-
iis gamocemis Semdeg 30 we-
lze meti gavida, bevri rame
Seicvala Cvens cxovrebaSi,
msoflioSi. xom ar igeg-
meba axali enciklopediis
gamocema?
_ ramdenime welia, rac
mamaCemis daarsebul saqmes
vagrZeleb, var qarTuli
enciklopediis mTavari red-
aqtori. gamogitydebiT da
Tavidan es saqme cota `sa-
pensiod~ meCveneboda, magram
axla vxedav, rom vcdebodi.
zogi ram keTdeba da kidev
Zalian bevri ramis gakeTeba
SeiZleba. kerZod, bolo 2-3
wlis manZilze gamoveciT
enciklopediuri naSromi
`qarTuli ena~, aseve wigni
mozardebisTvis `qarTuli
damwerloba~. sazogadoebis
didi mowoneba daimsaxura
zurab abaSiZe
enciklopediam `Tbilisi. qu-
Cebi, gamzirebi, moednebi~,
rac SesaniSnavad aris
ilustrirebuli. gamoveciT
ramdenime enciklopediuri
leqsikoni. amJamad vmuSaobT
enciklopedia `saqarTve-
los~ II tomze, romelic
wlis bolomde gamoicema.
mzaddeba III tomi wignisa
`saqarTvelos istoriisa da
kulturis ZeglTa aRweri-
loba~, aseve samxedro enci-
klopedia. albaT Tqveni
mkiTxvelisTvis saintereso
iqneba wigni saTauriT `100
qarTveli ucxoeTSi~, rome-
lic im qarTvelebisa da qa-
rTuli warmoSobis moRvaw-
eTa Sesaxeb mogviTxrobs,
romlebmac uZvelesi droi-
dan dRemde mniSvnelovani
kvali datoves ama Tu im
qveynis cxovrebaSi. wignSi
moxvdnen amerikaSi moRvawe
qarTvelebic. am samenovani
(qarTul, inglisur da ru-
sul enebze) da kargad il-
ustrirebuli wignis gamo-
cemas uaxloes momavalSi
vgegmavT.
_ gTxovT gviamboT Tq-
veni uaxloesi gegmebis Se-
saxeb.
_ rac Seexeba qarTul
enciklopedias, mokled ukve
mogaxseneT. garda enciklo-
pediisa, vcdilob ar Ca-
movrCe cxovrebas da ar davi-
viwyo Cemi mTavari gataceba
da saqme – saerTaSoriso
urTierTobebi. saqme is gax-
lavT, rom TiTqmis 30 weli
saxelmwifo samsaxurSi viy-
avi. wlebis manZilze vmuSa-
obdi saelCoebSi, jer sab-
WoTa kavSiris dros indo-
eTSi da espaneTSi, damouki-
deblobis aRdgenis Semdeg
ki briuselSi da moskovSi.
ase rom, yovelTvis viRa-
caze viyavi damokidebuli.
axla am mxriv Tavisufali
adamiani var, mec Cem Tavs
(ise rogorc bevri sxva!)
saerTaSoriso sakiTxebSi
`damoukidebel eqsperts~
vuwodeb. rasac vfiqrob,
imas vambob, sadac minda miv-
divar da a.S. aseTi Tavisu-
fali reJimi Zalian momwons
da rodesac Tanamdebobebi
SemomTavazes, madlobiT ua-
ri vuTxari.
mqonda ramdenime SemoTa-
vazeba, rom ucxoeTSi samu-
Saod wavsuliyavi, magram,
Tavi Sevikave. 20 weli ucx-
oeTSi cxovrebisa CemTvis
sakmarisia. Tanac ratomRac
meCveneba, rom axla saqarT-
veloSia Cemi adgili. ar
vici, SeiZleba vcdebi...
_ b-no zurab, ras ety-
odiT amerikis qarTul sa-
zogadoebas da saerTod
qarTul emigracia?
_ ar minda maRalfar-
dovani viyo da samSoblos
siyvarulis Temas Sevexo.
amaze xom yovelTvis vsaub-
robT. erTaderTi is minda
vTxovo Cems Tanamemamu-
leebs, rom politikuri sim-
patia-anti patiebis gamo nu
daiyofiT da daiqsaqsebiT.
moZlierdiT da erTmaneTs
mxarSi amoudeqiT.
_ xom ar gegmavT ufro
axlo kontaqtebis damyare-
bas amerikaSi myof qarTul
diasporasTan?
_ samwuxarod, amerikaSi
Cvens diasporasTan Zalian
mcire Sexeba maqvs. siamov-
nebiT amogidgebiT mxarSi ne-
bismier karg wamowyebaSi.
mixeil mumlaZe
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zaza faCulia:
- batono zaza, Tqven xarT warma-
tebuli cnobili pirovneba. ram
iTamaSa yvelaze didi roli Tqvens
karieraSi? magaliTad batoni paata
burWulaZe mis warmatebas niWze
metad beds "abralebs", Tqven?
- ra Tqma unda, bedic aris, magram
yvelafers bedsac ver davabraleb.
"me ki ar
gamxarebia
udidesi roli mainc Cemma Sromam,
varjiSma da talantma iTamaSa; anu
me swori gza miveci Cems niWsa da
am nabijis
SesaZleblobebs. Tu ginda rom rames
miaRwio, aucileblad unda gansazRv-
ro mizani da gansazRvro is mimarTu-
leba, romelic am miznamde migiyvans.
gadadgma"
ra Tqma unda, am yvelaferTan erTad
iRbalic unda gqondes adamians,
raSic sruliad veTanxmebi uniWieres
da CemTvis usayvarles pirovnebas ba-
ton paata burWulaZes.
- rogorc vici, Tqven 9 wlis asa-
kidan daiwyeT kalaTburTSi varji- interviu warmatebul qarTvel
Si; 14 wlis ikaviT rodesac de- legionerTan zaza faCuliasTan
dasTan - qalbaton marine koduas-
Tan erTad gadaxvediT TurqeTSi; gazeT "erTobis" redaqcia asru-
zaza Tqven rom saqarTveloSi dar- lebs danapirebs da warmodgenil
CeniliyaviT sacxovreblad, dRes iq-
nebodiT aseTi warmatebuli ada-
nomerSi gvsurs, ufro axlos gagacnoT cnobili qarTveli sport-
smeni, kalaTburTis varskvlavi, saqarTvelos saamayo Svili - batoni
miani?
- ra Tqma unda, ara! samwuxarod, zaza faCulia.
me saqarTvelodan wavedi, radgan ar miuxedavad misi datvirTuli dRis reJimisa, batonma zazam Cveni
iyo is pirobebi, rac Cems sportul gazeTis mkiTxvelTaTvis mainc gamonaxa dro:
karieras esawiroeboda. me ki ar gam-
xarebia am nabijis gadadgma; me, ra velos nakrebic gacilebiT Zlieri
Tqma unda, Cems samSobloSi yofna iqneba.
merCivna Cems axloblebTan erTad. - batono zaza, USA TODay-Tvis
Tumca, situaciidan gamomdinare ga- Tqvens mier micemul interviuSi
davdgi es nabiji. Tumca, me saqarT-
wavikiTxe, rom Tqven sakuTari
veloSi Seviyvare Cemi sporti - kala- restorani SeqmeniT atlantaSi
TburTi da swored saqarTvelos siy-
imitom, rom did yuradRebas aqcevT
varuliT vTamaSob dRemde, radgan gemriel sadiliT Seqmnil atmosf-
minda, rom Cemi qveynis saxeli mTel eros; marTlac mxolod am mizniT
msoflios davamaxsovro da saqarT- gaxdiT restornis mepatrone Tu am
velo kargi kuTxiT gavacno. mimarTulebiT biznes interesic
TbilisSi bevri niWieri axalgaz- gaqvT?
rda TamaSobs; bevri Cemi megobari, - iciT ra, me Zalian did yurad-
samwuxarod, saqarTveloSi dRemde Rebas vaqcev wesier kvebas; mindoda,
ver avlens Tavis SesaZleblobebs,
Cemi sakuTari adgili Semeqmna, sadac
amitom me vakeTeb maqsimums, rom da- iqneboda Zalian gemrili kerZebi. sa-
vexmaro Cems megobrebsa da Cems qve-
dac vvarjiSobT, is darbazi Zalian
yanas. axlos aris Cems restoranTan da
- Tqven xarT Tbilisis kalaTbu-
marTlac Zalian kargad visvenebT xo-
rTis nakrebis kapitani. rogor fiq-
lme aq me da Cemi megobrebi.
robT, ra bedi elis saqarTvelos
- Tu gaqvT TqvenTvis gamorCeuli
nakrebs?
kerZi? amerikuli gazeTebi wers rom
- rogorc aRvniSne, saqarTveloSi
Tqveni sayvareli kerZi spagetia;
Zalian bevri niWieri sportsmenia, maT Tqven ras ityodiT?
Soris kalaTburSi. Zalian didi imedi - Cemi sayvareli kerZi qarTuli
maqvs, rom dRes Tu marto me var xinkalia, magram spagets varjiSis
qarTveli NBA-Si, xval da zeg aTjer
win mivirTmev xolme; TamaSis Semdeg
meti qarTveli iTamaSebs da saqarT-
xorceuli miyvars.
- Tqven Tavad Tu mogimzadebiaT
kerZebi Tqvens sakuTar restoranSi?
- me ara; me Zalian vendobi Cems
mzareuls.
emigrantebo, davbrundeT
saqarTveloSi!..
qarTveli emigrantebis ricxvi
masala moamzada
yovelwliurad izrdeba... axal
lela vaSakiZe emigrantTagan bevrs gonia, rom
mxolod erTi an ori wliT iqneba emigraciaSi, mag ram gadis
magram
wlebi da saxlSi dabrunebas ver axerxebs; dro dad dro yvela
svams kiTxvas: ra moutana mas emigrantobam?
Cveni gazeTis redaqcia gTavazobT Tanamedrove emigran tul
emigrantul
qronikebs ucxoeTSi mc xo
mcxo vrebi ramdenime qarTvelis cxovrebis
xovrebi
mixedviT.
iqneb, amis Semdeg mainc be
bevv r ma Seicvalos gadawy ve
gadawyve ti
veti leba da
tileba
ucxoeTSi bedis Ziebis nac vlad,
nacvlad, saqarTveloSi dar Ces;
darCes;
winaswarve vityvi, rom Svi lebisa da naTesavebis siy
Svilebisa va
siyva rulis
varulis
velSi SromiT ufro msubuqad daiZleva yofiTi prob lemebi,
problemebi,
vidre ucxoeTSi martosulad gadaxvewili ka cis mier. rac ar
kacis
unda maRali donis komfortiT icxovro saz RvargareT, rac ar
sazRvargareT,
unda Zvir fasi manqaniT iaro ucxo
Zvirfasi eTSi, mainc ver Seivseb im Si
ucxoeTSi, Si--
nagan sicarieles, rasac qmnis ojaxis wevrebis, naTesavebisa da
mSobliuri miwa-wylis si Sore. mas isic Tu daemateba, rom ra
siSore.
tanjva-wamebiTa da cre
cremm liT iSoveba fuli uc xo
ucxo eTSi, logikuri
xoeTSi,
iqneba kiT xva: Rirs ki wasvla emigra
kiTxva: emigracici aSi?
ciaSi?
Cemo Zvirfaso mkiTxvelo, mo mod d iT, gavecnoT ramdenime emig emig--
rantis werilis frag men
fragmen te
mente bs da vnaxoT: ra msxverplis gaReba
tebs
uwevs emigrants,
aseve vifiqroT: Rirs ki am sa fasuris gadaxda?
safasuris
- es restorani qarTulia?
- qarTuli restorani saxlSi maqvs
- stumrebisTvis.
- saxlSi vin amzadebes kerZebs?
- Cemi meuRle. sxvaTaSoris, kargi
mzareulia; dedaCemic xSirad Camodis
xolme da manebivrebs qarTuli kerZe-
biT, magram saqarTveloSi momzade-
bul kerZs mainc sxva gemo aqvs. saqa-
rTveloSi rodesac Cavdivar, Cems
megobrebTan erTad xSirad vstum-
robT qarTul restornebs.
- rogoria emigraciaSi yofnisas
gatarebuli warmatebuli qarTve-
lis erTi Cveulebrivi dRe?
- ver vityvi, rom yvela dRe
erTmaneTs hgavs, magram ise, dRis pir-
vel naxevars vuTmob varjiSs, xolo
saRamoobiT var Cems ojaxis wevreb-
Tan erTad.
- Tqven ojaxi axseneT, Tu SeiZ-
leba axlos gagvacaniT Tqveni meuR-
P.S. didi bednierebaa, rom saqarTvelos hyavs iseTi warmatebuli da
niWieri axalgazrda, rogoricaa zaza faCulia. vusurvoT zazas, didxans
iyos sportuli karieris mwvervalze, Semdeg ki didi biznesi Seeqmnas
saqarTveloSi; imedi maqvs, rom zaza xels Seuwyobs saqarTveloSi
ekonomikis aRorZinebas da daasaqmebs bevr qarTvels.
Tuki yvela warmatebuli qarTveli ase moiqceva, aRar gveyoleba
lukma-purisTvis ucxoeTSi gaxiznuli amdeni qarTveli emigranti.
qarTveli emigrantebis werilebi..
gamarjobaT, me dodo mqvia, ukve
11 welia emigraciaSi var; mwvane
baraTi miviRe da Svilebi erTi wlis
win vnaxe magram vai im naxvas... crem-
lebi maxrCobs am werilis dawerisas,
Svilebi gamiucxovdnen; raoden mZimea
Cemi cxovreba, mxolod ufalma icis.
me isini patarebi davtove. rodesac
vkiTxulob Tqvens gazeTSi sxva emig-
ranti dedis werils, Cemi gancdebi
mgonia... rodesac saxlSi Cavedi, Cemi
patara qeTi ukve 15 wlis damxvda;
pirveli, rac aRmovaCine iyo is, rom
mas dedis daZaxeba gauWirda CemTvis,
arada, telefoniT saubrisas megona,
dedas bunebrivad meZaxda. rodesac
amdeni xnis Semdeg realobaSi erTad
aRmovCndiT amdeni wlis Semdeg,
mivxvdi, rom wlebs gaeyinaT Cvens
Soris deda-Sviluri xalasi urTie-
rToba; Zalian metkina guli, roca
aRmovaCine: mas Tu raime dasWirde-
boda, Cems das Txovda da aviwy-
deboda, rom deda gverdiT hyavda...
ase damwuxrebuli Camovedi saqarT-
velodan.
erToba UNITY
le da gviambeT, rogor gaicaniT
igi?
- Cemi meuRle suxiSvilebis ansab-
lis yofili mocekvavea; igi gavicani
erT-erTi koncertis dros. erTi
wlis ganmavlobaSi vxvdebodiT erT-
menTs; mis sanaxavad saqarTveloSi
Cavdiodi; ukan dabrunebisas did si-
carieles vgrZnobdi mis gareSe... ga-
davwyviteT, davqorwinebuliyaviT.
myavs ori vaJkaci: daviTi da saba.
- rogor axerxebT qarTuli da
amerikuli tradiciebis erTmaneT-
Tan SeTavsebas?
- Tavidan gamiWirda; 14 wlidan
TurqeTSi vcxovrobdi, magram iqidan
saqarTvelo axlos iyo; aq rodesac
Camovedi, aravis vicnobdi; Zalian
bevrs vvarjiSobdi; Semdeg ki ufro
gamiadvilda. amJamad Zalian bednieri
var; bednieri var imiT, rom aqaurma
xalxma Semiyvara da Zalian undaT,
rom maTTan viyo, maT gundSi viTama-
So. es ki Zalian didi pasuxismgeb-
loba da pativia CemTvis.
- sportsmenebis garkveuli nawili
garkveuli drois Semdeg Tavis ka-
rieras politikaSi agrZelebs; ra
saerTo aqvs sports politikasTan?
gaqvs Tu ara gegmaSi politikaSi
wasvla?
- ara! politikaSi Cemi karieris
gagrZelebaze saerTod ar mifiqria;
Cems moRvaweobas albaT bizneSi ga-
vargZeleb. amisaTvis Zalian bevrs vS-
romob; minda gaviRrmavo codna biz-
nesis dargSi, amitom vswavlob ko-
lejSi.
- Tu axerxebT qarTvel emigran-
tebaTn urTierTobas?
- miuxedavad Cemi gadatvirTuli
reJimisa, mainc var Cems xalxTan. maqvs
kavSiri qarTul saTvistomosTan.
mivesalmebi Tqveni gazeTis arsebobas
da mixaria, rom emsaxurebiT qarT-
veli emigrantebis interesebs. Zalian
didi sixarulia TiToeuli emigran-
tisTvis, rom sakuTar enaze waikiTxos
qarTulenovani gazeTi. gisurvebT
warmatebebs!
mudam maxsovs, rom Cemi fesvebi
saqarTveloSia da minda, yovelTvis
gverdiT vedge Cems saqarTvelos...
intervius iZRveboda
lela vaSakiZe
rac Seexeba dRevandel Cems
cxovrebas: vmuSaob mosavlel bebia-
sTan Zalian mZime pirobebSi; Cemi
piraduli araferi maqvs, garda saku-
Tari saxelisa. Tavidan bolomde 83
wlis qalis cxovrebiT vxcovrob;
TveSi erTi dRe maqvs dasveneba da
isic qarTvelebis sastumroSi miv-
divar, sadac vnaxulob Zalian bevr
CemsaviT damwuxrebul qarTvels.
guli ufro mimZimdeba da vxvdebi,
rom aRarc es erTi dRe minda dasas-
veneblad... ar vici, rodemde gavZleb
aseTi cxovrebiT, an me davrCebi ki
imave adamianad?"
axla meore axal emigrants movus-
minoT:
"lela, Sen rom ara, me Cems cxov-
rebas aravis movuyvebodi, magram gT-
xov Cemi saxeliT ar dawero da saga-
zeTo masalaSi saxeli Semicvale,
Tumca mkiTxelisTvis ra mniSvneloba
aqvs me ra mqvia. erTi gaubedurebuli
axalgazrda emigranti biWi var, an
var ki ukve axalgazrda? amerikaSi
gaWirvebam Camomiyvana, fexmZime meuR-
le davtove da arc ki vicodi, sad
movdiodi. vinac Camomiyvana, fuli
aiRo da daikarga, damtova
¤¤
quCaSi, arc sastumros fuli
 UNITY erToba
ubpj sfdf't
quTaisi
iloceT da
dabrundiT
`cotani varT, _ gaxsovdeT,
_ rogorc oqro qviSaSi,
raRas eZebT, ra dagrCaT
e, mag amerikaSi~.
adrindeli leqsebidan
1.
sinas mTaze, aTonze,
gind ierusalimSi,
midioda qarTveli:
coliT, SviliT, badiSiT.
midioda: uremiT,
cxeniT, joriT, aqlemiT,
TVBUHFYNEKB W[JDHT,BC LQBEHT,B
arvin ekiTxeboda,
rad wadi an ra hqeni.
midiodnen muxlmoyriT,
midiodnen vedrebiT,
keriaze elodnen
modaraje dedebi.
aqamde moatanes,
ar dakarges sinaze,
midioda qarTveli,
aTonze da sinaze.
2.
dResac midis qarTveli,
gemiT, freniT, avtoTi,
aRar unda uSguli,
Satili da ardoti.
jer TurqeTi dalaSqra,
ufro Sorsac gariska,
ZilSic elamuneba
sunTqva okeanisa.
egzotikur plaJebze,
sveldebian, Srebian,
ara, ar brundebian,
ucxoeTSi rCebian.
3.
sinas mTaze, aTonze,
gind ierusalimSi,
Tuki waxvalT qarTvelno,
veravin ver dagiSliT.
iloceT da dabrundiT!
winaparTa gza-kvaliT,
gelodebaT samSoblo,
sasoebiT, kankaliT...
sveti daekideba
mTawmindisken, platoze...
midioda qarTveli
sinaze da aTonze.
Sens gulTan axlos...
madlobeli var, qarTvelo xalxo,
var madlobeli, xalxo qarTvelo,
Sens gulTan axlos, Sens sulTan
axlos,
mjera, grigalmac ki ver gamTelos.
savse var Seni eniT da sibrZniT,
miwiT da eSxiT, mziT da mdeloTi.
me simRerisTvis dRedaRam vibrZvi,
Tvalgaciskruli saqarTveloTi.
Seni laJvardi Tavze maxuravs
da mafofinebs Seni tye-veli,
qarTvelo xalxo, Senda msaxurad
mzad var, daviwva viT sakmeveli.
Sen Semifare, viT mwyemsma kravi,
romelic Ramem mosxlita dedas,
me SenTan mSvidad vigrZeni Tavi
da avitane sionze sevda.
me palestinas vinaxav gulSi
da Sevtrfi diad rusTvelis suraTs.
suls amRerebuls arara uSlis,
lxeniT dacalos sicocxlis sura.
mzis qveS daemxo bneleTis taxti,
darCa rioni, darCa aragvi,
Cemo mfarvelo, me gana wavxdi,
rom miviviwyo Seni amagi?
me Sens miwaSi davmarxe mama,
axla Zvlebia, albaT, martoden.
egebis avma damqrolos Jamma,
me mamis saflavs gana davtoveb?
madlobeli var, xalxo qarTvelo.
Sens gulTan axlos, Sens sulTan axlos,
mjera, grigalmac ki ver gamTelos.
aprili-maisi, 2010 5
cfvetk vj'qdhbidbkb7
qarTveli ebraeli
futkari
mze ayvavebul cacxvebs dahxaris,
suls surneleba saamod namavs.
futkari, rogorc afTiaqari,
yvavilebisgan mimzadebs wamals.
me futkris zuzuns guls vuTmob binad,
suli hangebis SuqiT gamTbara.
Cems da mzes Soris futkari frinavs,
rogorc sicocxlis elCi patara.
Rirda Tu ara amqveynad mosvla?
Rirda?
ar Rirda?
miTxari:
- Rirda!
radgan me Senze ocneba mmosavs
da usasrulo simRera minda.
qveynad gaCena marTlac rom Rirda,
mkerds vagebebdi moxeTqil qarebs.
me samSobloze ocneba mRlida
da mze miRebda laJvardis karebs.
amqveynad mosvla Rirda Tu ara?
Rirda?
ar Rirda?
miTxari:
- Rirda!
kavkass grigalma gadauara
da leqsi minda casaviT wminda.

££ avtobusebis
mqonda, wversac ver vi parsavdi, dedi"; ramdeni bavSvia Cems dReSi.
sadgurze vaTevdi
Rames. Semdeg bruklinSi Savebma
emigrantebo, davbrundeT Cemze ukeT vin icis, ra aris dedis
gareSe yofna? yvelanair gaWirvebas

SemniSnes da SemomTavazes wamalis
gasaReba; me ise miWirda, davTanxmdi.
Semdeg Tavad gavxdi am wamlis msxver-
pli. dRes ki aseTi gaubedurebuli
var; ojaxs sircxviliT veRar
vurekav; an ra vuTxra, rom davreko.
ise, gavige, biWi myavs, mxolod uf-
lis imedze var..."
irma: "mixaria, rom amerikSi ga-
modis gazeTi, romelic dainteresda
emigrantebis bediT; ratomRac mgonia,
rom Tqveni gazeTis garda sxvas ara-
vis axsovs rigiTi qarTveli emigran-
tebi...
me oTxi wlis win Camovedi. aq
dedaCemi iyo; mters ar vusurveb imas,
rac Cvenma ojaxma gadaitana. deda
asakovani iyo, amitom mindoda, sax-
lSi dabrunebuliyo da Camovsuli-
yavi amerikaSi, magram vai im dabrun-
ebas...
Cems ufros das simsivne aRmoaCda;
maSin saqarTveloSi viyavi, deda -
amerikaSi. dedas is xSirad esizmr-
eboda da amitomac gadavwyvite, deda
damebrunebina saqarTveloSi. ame-
rikaSi wamosvlisas Cemi da rom dame-
mSvidoba, miTxra: xom viciT, erT-
menTs veRar SevxdebiTo.
dedas ar undoda amerikaSi marto
davetovebine, amitom simarTlis Tqma
momiwia. dedam 8 wlis unaxavi momakv-
davi Svili naxa, zustad erTi kvira
moucia masTan yofna. Cemma dam saa-
vadmyofos kedlebSi, magram mainc
dedis mkvlavebSi dalia suli. rom
gavige dis gardacvalebis ambavi,
saxlSi ver vitire, radgan meSinoda,
policias ar mosuliyo. manqaniT
gavedi gzaze da mTeli xmiT didxans
vitire... ase davitire Cemi daiko.
meore dRes samsaxurSi wavedi.
valdebuli viyavi, xalxisTvis -
TanamSromlebisTvis - meCuqebina Cveu-
li amerikuli Rimili; arada, vin ico-
da, ra ubedureba trialebda Cems gu-
lSi - Cemi da micvalebuli esvena
Cems saxlSi da martxoxela gaubedu-
rebuli deda uCemod dastiroda...
miTxariT, es aris cxovreba?!"
nodari: "lela, Tqven kvlav emig-
rantebis velSi xarT? mivesalmebi
Tqveni gazeTis aseT yuradRebas Cven-
dami.
saqarTveloSi!..
minda erTi patara istoria mogi-
yveT. aq cincinaTSi Tu manqana ara
gyavs, Znelia; arada me sul fexiT
miwevda siaruli. SarSan manqana dame-
jaxa; mZRolma arc ki gaaCera. erTi
sityviT, ori urTulesi operacia ga-
mikeTes savadmyofoSi; verc xels
vanZrevdi da verc fexs; amis miuxe-
davad, radganac aralegali viyavi,
gamomweres. sruliad paralizebuli,
sul marto aRmovCndi. upatrono
avadmyofi ZaRliviT viyavi, lamis
TviTmkvlelobamde mivedi. erTi
RvTisnieri ojaxi damexmara da ekle-
sias mimarTa dasaxmareblad. mama
lerim gamiwia finasuri daxmareba
da binis qiras mixdida. axla saqarT-
veloSi mkurnalobis saSualeba Tu
ar meqneba, Cemi saxli mainc maqvs.
asea ucxo miwaze cxovreba naTesave-
bis gareSe; mxolod RmerTia Cveni
patroni".
naTela: "me piradad emigrantobam
avadmyofoba dammarTa.
aq rom Camovedi, iseT bebiasTan
momiwia muSaoba, rom ori Tvis Semdeg
diabeti damemarTa.
cocxali rom var, mikvirs; mTeli
dRis ganmavlobaSi televizors ar
marTvevineben; telefonze Zlivs vla-
parakob xolme, isic Cumad, roca da-
Ramdeba. erTaderTi, rac mamxnevebs
da maxarebs, saRamos Cemi SviliSvi-
lis xmis gagonebaa; dila rom ga-
Tendeba, Cems Tavs velaparakebi da
vamxneveb rom ar waviqce, Tore ra
eSveleba Cems ojaxs?"
ucnobi emigranti: "Zalian miWirs
am Temaze saubari, amitom Cems saxels
arc gwerT, magram gTxovT, rom rom
es gamoaqveynoT.
me da Cemi 13 wlis biWi aq (ame-
rikaSi) erTad CamovediT. Cemma colma
Svili im imediT gamomatana rom egona,
mivxedavdi. arada, aq imdeni gadasa-
xadebia, rom or samsaxurSi unda
memuSava, SvilisTvisac rom mimexeda.
biWi skolaSi Seviyvane, me ki muSao-
baSi dResa da Rames vasworebdi. et-
yoba, ver mivaqcie saTanado yurad-
Reba: erT dResac gamomicxada rom
megobari biWi uyvars. erTi sityviT,
orientacia Seicvala.
dRemde vekiTxebi Cems Tavs: saqa-
rTveloSi rom vyofiliyavi, xom ar
damemarTeboda es ubedureba?
Zalian veCxube; vceme kidec. is ki
saxlidan gaiqca. dedamiss ver veub-
nebi simarTles, arada, rodemde
davmalo?"
ucnobi emigranti: "arc ki vici,
riT daviwyo wera. erTi vici rom
Cemi cxovreba uinteresod ganvi-
Tarda: Zalian mindoda lamazi qar-
Tuli ojaxi myoloda; moviyvane co-
li, magram gaWirvebis gamo col-
Svili saqarTveloSi davtove da aq
30 wlisa Camovedi. gavida wlebi da
aq erTi megobari gogona gaviCine. me
is Semiyvarda. dRes Cven bavSvic
gvyavs. vici, Cems mier mitovebuli
meuRle Zalian itanjeba. guli vatkine
ojaxs... ganvicdi am yvelafers da
bednierebas versad vpoulob.
ar vurCev arc erT axalgazrda
wyvils, erTmaneTTan didi xniT daS-
orebas. sjobia giWirdeT da erTad
iyoT, vidre CemsaviT itanjebodeT.
verc aqaur cols veubnebi simarTles,
arada, xom gaigebs odesRac... vaiTu
Cema Svilebmac ar mapation"...
patara salome: "me emigranti ara
var, magram Cemi mSoblebi arian saz-
RvargareT. rom icodeT rogor miWi-
rs maT gareSe yofna! daviRale amdeni
ZiZebis gamocvliT.
skolidan saxlSi mosvla aRar
minda, radgan vici, Cems dedikos ver
Cavexutebi. arada, lamazi da ganaT-
lebuli dediko myavs... ramdenjer min-
atria, Cems amxanagebs gavacno Cemi
dediko; yovel wels mpirdeba Ca-
mosvlas, magram ramdeni weli gavida
ukve; me ki menatreba, sigiJemde
menatreba. mis suraTs veCurCulebi
da ise viZineb RamiT. "adnaklasnikebs"
Tu gadaxedavT, bevri Cemi toli bav-
Svis gverdze Cans warwera: "menatrebi
emigrantebo, davbrundeT saqarTvelSi da
ukeTesobisken erTad SevcvaloT Cveni samSoblo!
avitan, oRon RamiT dedas Cavexuto..."
vaxtangi (Tbilisidan): "axla vxv-
debi, Tu raoden davaSave, rom Cemi
meuRle sazRvargareT gavuSvi. mis
gareSe carielia Cemi cxovreba; vici,
igi Zalian itanjeba. ramdenjer saW-
meli ar miWamia da ise davwolilvar;
ver vWam imitom, rom vici, colis
nawvalebi fuliT unda davnayrde.
mrcxvenia, rom amxela kaci ucxoeTSi
gadaxvewili colis kmayofaze var.
me var qmari?"
gio (xaSuridan): "Tqveni gazeTi
SemTxveviT vnaxe. me Cems mamikos veZeb,
igi xuTi welia amerikaSia da bolo
erTi welia araferi ismis misgan; mama
Zalian menatreba da miyvars. Tu am
werils waikiTxavs, minda icodes
rom Zalian minda misi naxva, me mas
yvelafers vapatieb oRond damib-
rundes! me gio var mami!"
nini: "uwmindesma da unetaresma,
saqarTvelos kaTalikos patriarqma
ilia meorem mouwoda yvela qarTvel
emigrants, dabrundes saqarTveloSi
- Tavis saxlSi.
is, rom dagvetovebina sakuTari
samSoblo da Svilebi, Tavis droze
gabeduli nabiji iyo. saqarTveloSi
ojaxis rCenis sxva gzas ver vxedav-
diT, an kargad ver veZebdiT da uc-
xoeTSi wamovediT. modiT, kidev erT-
xel gavbedoT, da vinc aq samuSaod
wamovediT, kidev erTxel gavakeToT
axali arCevani: samSoblos davub-
rundeT!
uSromlad amerikaSic araferi
gveZleva, SromiT ki saqarTveloSic
viSoviT saaarsebo minimums: wminda
mariamis wilxvedri qveyana ar gagv-
wiravs!
Cven aqauri cxovreba vnaxeT: mec
da Cems meuRlesac aqaur komforts,
Svilebis mier Seqmnili ojaxuri siT-
bo gvirCevnia! Tqven ki, visac jer ar
gangicdiaT emigrantobis simware,
kargad dafiqrdiT: am werilis wakiT-
xvis Semdeg kidev giRirT lukma-
puris saSovnelad ucxoeTSi
gadaxvewa?~
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duzje: dilis 06 saaTze gamovediT gvatyobinebs. Sexvedra mis gareSe

amasiidan. gza SeiZleba iyos didi, patara, grZeli, mokle da a.S. gza SeiZleba daviwyeT. saubars eswrebian saTvis-
fevzi CelebTan 7-8 welia inter- gulisxmobdes warsuls, awmyos, momavals... Sesityveba: didi gza uTuod tomos wevrebi da duzjes sakre-
netis "gziT" vmegobrob, magram jer gulisxmobs did Sedegs; am konteqstSi vityvi: saqarTvelo-TurqeTis bulos deputati, warmoSobiT - qarT-
ar Sevxvedrivar. Zalian gamaxareo, urTierToba keTilmezoblur fazaSia, Sesabamisad, aucilebelia veli irfan dursuni; Cveni mxridan _
miTxra. gamomkiTxa Tanmxleb pirTa marTali da gamWvirvale urTierTobebis ganviTareba. yvela. orive mxaris televizia iRebs.
vinaoba da raodenoba. Cems wignSi "saqarTvelo-TurqeTi: grZeli gza", romelic male qarTul erTi saintereso niuansi: saTvis-
cota xanSi damireka standartuli da Turqul enebze gamova, moTxrobilia TurqeTSi quTaisis akaki wereT- tomoSi TurqeTisa da saqarTvelos
(normirebuli) qarTuliT mosaubre lis saxelmwifo universitetis qarTveluri dialeqtologiis samecniero- droSebi gverdigverdaa, oRond Tur-
qalbatonma da miTxra, rom fevzis kvleviTi institutisa da telekompania "rionis" erToblivi eqspediciis qeTis droSa odnav maRlaa. TurqeTis
davalebiT girekavT, gelodebiT, man- Sesaxeb. eqspediciis wevrebma moinaxules qarTvelTa saTvistomoebi: quCebSi arsad gvinaxavs arc sxvae-
qaniT dagxvdebiT duzjes gadasaxve- facaSi, amasiaSi, duzjeSi, xendekSi, izmiTSi, stambolSi, gebzeSi, novani warwera, miT umetes, Turqul-
vamde restoran "Turqsevenis" sarek- bursaSi, inegolSi, sinjanSi (ankaraSi).... vfiqrob, Cven mier gavlilma, enovanze didi Tu STambeWdavi; Tur-
lamo banerTano. sul mcire, 5000 kilometrianma gzam da mravalricxovanma Sexvedrebma qebi namdvilad scemen pativs TavianT
pirvelive Sexvedra usazRvrod xeli Seuwyo Turqi da qarTveli xalxebis didi megobrobis CamoZerwvis erovnul faseulobebsa da simbo-
Tbili iyo: process. gazeT erTobis mkiTxvels vTavazobT duzjes monakveTis mokle loebs: enas, istorias, droSas...
pirveli damxvduri: akademiuri variants: Sesavali sityva Turqulad warmo-
garegnobis Sua asakis qarTululva- Tqva batonma jemil Tinasma (gverdiT
Sebiani mamakaci - jemil Tinasi, du- nawyveti wignidan: `saqarTvelo-TurqeTi: grZeli gza~ ejda batoni aidinic, romelmac sTxo-
zjes saTvistomos wevri, movida, va, gaexsna Sexvedra; amasobaSi fev-
gadamexvia da miTxra: batoni fevzi zic movida), romelmac saTvistomos
dasaflavebazea sofelSi da saTvis-
lebas gadarCena ar uweria: an sali- tariel futkaraZe sxva wevrebs gaacno stumrebi. Semdeg
teraturo qarTuli "imsxverplebs"
tomoSi mova; aidin qubilai - duzjes gamovida batoni amirani, romelmac
televiziidan Tu internetidan, an gaciisa aris is, rom xeli SevuwyoT
qarTvelTa saTvistomos Tavmjdo- proeqtis avtorebs gvTxova, saTvis-
Turquli - saxelmwifo ena. miT ume- saqarTvelo-TurqeTis keTilmezob-
mare ki Tavis restoranTan dagvxv- tomosa da duzjes deputatis winaSe
tes, skolebis gaxsnis Semdeg bolo lobis gaRrmavebas. me ar SemiZlia
debao; Cven jer im restoranSi visa- wargvedgina Cveni proeqti.
aTwleulebSi muhajirTa STamomav- madloba ar vuTxra duzjes qarTve-
diloT, Semdeg sastumroSi davbi- me mokled movyevi (Turqologi
lebis saojaxo enac Turquli gaxda. lTa saTvistomos, romelmac Cven Seg-
navdeT, mere soflebi vnaxoT, bolos giga qamuSaZe ukve profesionalur
gurji CiflikSi amJamad 200 ojaxi vaxvedra da romelic iRvwis, rom
- saTvistomoSi visaubroTo: gagvacno "sinqrons" akeTebs):
cxovrobs; amaTgan absoluturi um- xeli Seuwyos Cveni qveynebis megob-
CvenTvis gankuTvnili maTeuli gegma. Cveni samecniero proeqti: "saqarT-
ravlesoba qarTulia. robas...~

duzje: fevzi Celebis (CelebaZe) 200 wlis winandeli qarTuli

b-n jemils Tan axldnen duzjes
saTvstomos sxva wevrebi: Tavisi
qaliSvili, qalbatoni Tamar miqaZe,
Tamaris qaliSvili qeTa da qalbatoni
mujela uljai.
restoranTanac male mivediT.
aidini qarTuli nakvTebisa da maRali
aRnagobis qarTvelia; movikiTxeT
erTmaneTi, saerTo nacnobic gamoiZeb-
na quTaisSi da mivusxediT sufras.
daxvedriT aRtacebuli batoni ami-
ran xvadagiani (quTaisis sakrebulos
Tavmjdomare) kiTxulobs:
- aq Rvinis daleva SeiZleba? xom
iciT, daleva sul ar mainteresebs,
magram erTi WiqiT mainc damalocineT
maspinZlebi!
erT-erTi maspinZeli ambobs, rom
alkoholiani sasmelis daleva aq ar
SeiZleba;
- viTom cota Cai misxia; damisxi
Cveni koniaki (eubneba Salvas, rome-
lic myisve usrulebs survils).
qarTuli purobis wesia dalocva
- sadRegrZelos Tqma - vuxsniT im
maspinZels; stumrebisa da maspinZl-
ebis sam sadRegrZelos vambobT (uf-
lisas, maspinZlebisas, eqspediciis
miznisas) da ufro axlos vxedavT
erTmaneTs.
Semdeg migviyvanes SesaniSnav
sastumroSi; jemili meubneba:
- erTi Txovna maqvs da ar gewyinoT;
sastumros xarjebis naxevars Cven
vixdiT.
marTla meuxerxula da vuTxari:
jemil bei, Cven finansurad uzrun-
velyofili xalxi varT, magram mas-
pinZluri Jestis gakeTebis saSuale-
bas mogcemT mxolod erTi pirobiT:
roca Tqven CamoxvalT, Tqvens xar-
jebs Cven srulad davfaravT...
am frazam Seqmnili uxerxuloba
ganmuxta; gavicineT da SevTanxmdiT
am pirobaze (es piroba Sesrulda 3
kviraSi, fevzi Celebisa da misi Tanm-
xlebi pirebis saqarTveloSi stum-
robisas).
sastumro "Pak Otelcilik Turizm"
karg mogonebad darCeba Cvens mexsie-
rebaSi.
maqsimum erT saaTSi yvelani mzad
varT qarTul soflebSi wasasvle-
lad.
ZiriTadad sofel gurjuCiflikSi
gavCerdiT, sadac jer mcireodeni
teqsti CavwereT 67 wlis ahmed albaiq-
ximSiaSvilisgan - nigazeulidan gada-
saxlebuli muhajiris STamomavli-
sgan. misi qarTuli TiTqmis ucvleli
aWarulia. kvalificiurad Caweraa
aucilebeli amgvari pirebis metyve-
lebisa, vinaidan, rogorc Tavad am-
bobs, misma Svilebma qarTuli ukve
cudad ician; am dialeqtur metyve-
male, soflis centri qarTvelebiT
ivseba; roca Suaxnisa da asakovan
xalxs vusmen, Tavi did aWaraSi an
borjomSi mgonia (aqve gavicani xu-
los raionis sofel Rorjomidan wa-
mosuli muhajirebis STamomavlebic).
ramdenime saaTi davrCiT Cvens
moZmeebTan, romlebic 130 wlis win
dagvSordnen.
...soflis gamgebelma mTxova
Canaweri gavakeTo STabeWdilebebis
wignSi. vwer TurqeT-saqarTvelos
Zmobisa da aqauri qarTuli kulturis
gadarCenis aucileblobis Sesaxeb.
Semdeg davaTvaliereT soflis lama-
zad gakeTebuli skola, asfaltiani
quCebi; gadaviReT soflis xedebi da
wamovediT dasevdianebulni: axalgaz-
rdobas qarTulad saubari uWirs. ime-
di mainc ar mtovebs: evropisken
mswrafavi TurqeTis saxelmwifosa
da saqarTvelos daxmarebiT gadar-
Ceba Sua TurqeTSi dabinavebuli
qarTvelobis enac, kulturac da
eTnikuri vinaobac; es xalxi xom Zl-
ieri qarTuli genis mqonecaa da Tu-
rqeTis patriotic, Sesabamisad, Tu-
rqeTeli qarTvelebis enobriv-kul-
turuli TviTobis (identobis) Sesa-
narCuneblad orive saxelmwifom unda
izrunos.
gurjuCiflikSic da sxva msgavs
soflebSi bevri samuSaoa Casatare-
beli rogorc dialeqtologiuri, eT-
nologiuri Tu folkloruli masa-
lis mosaZieblad, aseve, aqaurebSi
qarTuli enis gadasarCenad. piradad
CemTvis gansakuTrebiT sainteresoa
aqaurTa Turqul metyvelebaSi qar-
Tuli saartikulacio Tu percef-
ciuli bazisis kvalisa da qarTul
metyvelebaze Turqulis gavlenis
Seswavla. sainteresoa agreTve Tur-
quli da qarTuli sametyvelo kode-
bis realizaciis pirobebis gamovlena
Taobebis mixedviT.
cnobisTvis: duzjeSi 15 000 qarT-
veli cxovrobs; maTi umravlesobis
eTnikuri vinaoba (identoba) gaore-
bulia.
sastumroSi davbrundiT da saRa-
mos SexvedrebisTvis vemzadebiT. ma-
leve b-ni jemili gvagebinebs, rom
duzjes meri movida CvenTan Sesax-
vedrad.
mdidrul vestibiulSi meri Rimi-
liT gvegebeba; iqve vsxdebiT. batoni
amirani acnobs Cveni delegaciis Sema-
dgenlobasa da miznebs.
ramdenime fragmenti duzjes mer-
Tan Sexvedris dros b-ni amiran xva-
dagianis sityvidan:
`madloba minda vuTxra qalaqis
mers mobrZanebisa da didi yurad-
RebisaTvis. mTavari mizani Cveni dele-
ATDPB XTKT,F"BC MFKBIDBKB - LBKF
duzjes merTan Sexvedris Semdeg
wavediT duzjes qarTuli kulturis
centris Tavdapirveli saxeli iyo
"baTumis qarTvelebis kulturis
asociacia". axla hqvia: duzjes qarTu-
li kulturis asociacia.
dRes duzjes qarTuli kulturis
asociaciis prezidentia aidin qubi-
lai (kobaSvili). asociaciis mTavari
mizania duzjeli qarTvelebisa da
saqarTvelos moqalaqe qarTvelebis
ufro metad daaxloeba da saqarTve-
los saxelmwifos farglebs gareT
myof qarTvelebTan kontaqtebis gaaq-
tiureba. fevzi Celebisave sityvebiT,
asociaciis misia aris samSoblo
TurqeTsa da winaparTa samSoblo
saqarTvelos Soris daurRveveli
xidis erT myar nawilad (qvad) yofna,
xolo konkretuli amocanebia:
- duzjel qarTvelebSi qarTuli
enis codnis aRdgena ("Zvel mdgo-
mareobaze asvla");
- duzjeSi qarTuli kulturisa
da istoriis gacnoba;
- saqarTvelosTvis muslimanuri
qarTuli kulturis gacnoba;
- Turqi politikosebisa da xal-
xisTvis TurqeTis megobari da axlo
mezobeli saqarTvelos terito-
riuli mTlianobis mniSvnelobis war-
moCena;
- duzjeSi mcxovrebi kavkasieli
xalxebisTvis - qarTvelebis (gurje-
bisa da lazebis), afxazebis, adiRe-
lebis, yabardoelebisa da sxvebi-
sTvis - saerTo warmomavlobis gage-
bineba da maTi gaerTianeba...
duzjes qarTvelTa saTvistomoSi
farTo magidas SemovusxediT. fevzi
soflidan modis da male movalo,
ATDPB XTKT,F'BC DF:BIDBKB - JVTHB
velo da TurqeTi: keTilmezobloba
da TanamSromloba samecniero da
kulturologiur sferoebSi" iTva-
liswinebs qarTul-Turquli kultu-
rul-samecniero urTierTobebis
intensiur ganviTarebas da satele-
vizio gadacemebis momzadebas Tur-
qeTsa da saqarTveloSi moRvawe im
profesorebis, mwerlebis, biznes-
menebisa da kulturuli centrebis
Sesaxeb, romlebic xels uwyoben Tur-
qeTisa da saqarTvelos kulturaTa
daaxloebas...
fevzi Celebi gvierTdeba da ambobs:
_ me fevzi Celebi, CelebaZe var;
axla gelaparakebiT 200 wlis
winandeli qarTuli eniT; bebiaCemma
da papaCemma damadgmevines es ena
(stili dacula - t.f.). pirvelad
kiTxva da werva daviswavle 12-13 wlis
asakSi. imis Semdeg radio
"Tavisuflebas" vusmendi evropidan
da amerikis xmas - amerikidan; ase
viswavle dRevandeli qarTuli ena.
erTxel mamaCemma axmed melaSvilis
wigni "gurjistani" moitana, saidanac
bevri ram gavige qarTvelebis Sesaxeb...
sazRvarma rom gaixsna, imis Semdeg
qarTuli wignebic vnaxe; qarTuli
televizia rom satelitze gevda,
pirveli antena aq me davdgi. axla
vuyureb: rusTavi 2-s, pirvel arxs,
imeds... aqauri qarTvelebis pirveli
problema aris ena. ena erTi kul-
turis sisxlia, erTi kulturis xor-
cia. Tu enas davkargavT, Cvenac davi-
kargebiT. axalgazrdebi aq ar swav-
loben enas, imitom rom ar sWirdebian
(sWirdebaT); Tqveni wasla-
mosla, ase mgonia, am enas
gaacocxlebs da Cveni ganaTle-
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axsovdeT, rom isini valdebulni arian mTeli Tavisi

sasuliero ganaTleba saqarTveloSi

cnobili berZeni filosofsi Temistosi, romelic
cxovrobda Cveni weTaRricxvis IV saukuneSi, werda:
`me TviTon, uZvirfaseso axalgazrdav, ritorikli
ganaTleba miviRe ara wynarsa da elinur adgilas,
aramed pontos napirzed, fasisis (dRevandeli qalaq
foTis) maxloblad, sadac Tesaliodan wasuli gemi
argo miadga... rasac me vlaparakob naTeli gaxdeba
SenTvis Tu vityvi, rom me iq (kolxeTSi) wavedi ara
sakuTari miswrafebiT, aramed mamis rCeviT, romelic
yvelaze ufro keTilmosurne iyo CemTvis da saRad
moazrovne, rogorc filosofosi, iqneb Sen isic
usayveduro mas, rom man Tavisi cnobili filosofiuri
ganaTlebac iqve miiRo~.
am sityvebidan kargad Cans Tu rogor ganaTlebas
Rebulobdnen saqarTveloSi, rogorc qarTveli, ise
ucxoeli axalgazrdebi.
sasuliero ganaTlebis kerebi kidev ufro gamravlda
VII-IX saukuneebSi. giorgi merCules `grigol xanZTelis
cxovrebidan~ kargad Cans, rom misTvis monasterSi
SeuswavlebiaT `mwignobrobaic mravalTa enaTao~.
IX-X saukuneebSi qarTul sasuliero-
saganmanaTleblo centrebSi saswavlo sagnebisa da
saxelmZRvaneloebis Sesaxeb mkafio warmodgenas gviqmnis
`Satberdis krebuli~. am dros Turme iswavleboda:
Teologia, filosofia, galoba, ucxo ena, mokle
msoflio istoria, saqarTvelos istoria, moZRvreba
adamianis bunebis Sesaxeb. didi mniSvneloba eniWeboda
axalgazrdebis gagzavnas qristianul saganmanaTleblo
centrebSi (antioqiaSi, ierusalimSi, bizantiaSi da
sxv.). XI saukunis II naxevarSi didma giorgi mTawmindelma
ganaTlebis misaRebad 80 ymawvili waiyvana aTonze.
wmida mefe daviT aRmaSeneblis RvawliT XII saukunis
dasawyisSi gelaTSi gaixsna sasuliero akademia. daviT
aRmaSenebelma aq moiwvia qveynis sxvadasxva kuTxeSi da
sazRvargareT moRvawe didi mecnierebi da gelaTis
akademia aqcia meore ierusalimad da meore aTinad.
am periodSi sasuliero saswavleblebi iyo Sio
mRvimeSi, opizaSi, oSkSi, SatberdSi, xanZTaSi da sxvagan.
monRolTa Semosevebis Sedeg erTiani saxelmwifos
daSlam Seamcira sasuliero saswavleblebis ricxvi,
ganadgurda gelaTis, iyalTos, gremis akademiebi.
XVIII saukuneSi sasuliero-saganmanaTleblo
centrebi iyo gelaTSi, SemoqmedSi, TbilisSi, TelavSi.
1748 wels saqarTvelos saeklesio krebam daadgina,
rom mRvdlad ar SeiZleboda ekurTxebinaT is piri,
romelsac sasuliero saswavlebeli ar eqneboda
damTavrebuli.
1755 wels sruliad saqarTvelos kaTolikos-
patriarqis anton I-is locva-kurTxeviT anCisxatis
taZris ezoSi gaixsna Tbilisis sasuliero seminaria.
1782 wels seminaria gaixsna TelavSi. erekle II did
yuradRebas aqcevda seminariebis muSaobas.
XIX saukunis dasawyisSi qarTl-kaxeTisa da imereTis
samefoebis gauqmebis Semdeg gauqmda saqarTvelos
eklesiis avtokefalia da ruseTis sinodma saqarTveloSi
egzarqosi daniSna.
1817 wels imperatoris gankargulebiT TbilisSi
rusuli sasuliero seminaria gaixsna. SemdgomSi
sasuliero saswavleblebi ruseTis mTavrobam gaxsna
gorSi, TelavSi, quTaisSi, ozurgeTSi, martvilSi.
XX saukunis dasawyisSi saqarTveloSi arsebuli
seminariebi da saswavleblebi asrulebdnen dekanoz i.
vostorgovis Segonebas: `maT upirveles yovlisa, unda
Zal-Rone da energia moaxmaron qarTvelTa garusebis
saqmes~. sasuliero saswavleblebidan saerTod gandevnes
qarTuli ena da literatura, devnidnen qarTvel
maswavleblebs. cdilobdnen samegreloSi da svaneTSi
adgilobriv mosaxleobaSi CaenergaT is azri, rom isini
qarTvelebi ar arian.
ruseTis imperiul zraxvebs aqtiurad upirispir-
debodnen qarTveli episkoposebi: gabrieli (qiqoZe),
leonide (oqropiriZe), kirioni (saZagliSvili), aleq-
sandre (oqropiriZe), arqimandriti ambrosi (xelaia),
dekanozebi: qristefore cicqiSvili, kalistrate
cincaZe, daviT RambaSiZe da sxv.
1917 wlis 12 (25) marts mcxeTaSi, sveticxovlis
sapatriarqo taZarSi Sekrebilma qarTvelma samRvde-
loebam saqarTvelos marTlmadidebeli samociqulo
eklesiis avtokefaliis aRdgena gamoacxada.
100-wliani wyvetilobis Semdeg saeklesio krebam
airCia sruliad saqarTvelos kaTolikos-patriarqad
didi mecnieri da saeklesio moRvawe kirion II
(saZagliSvili).
dReisaTvis uwmidesisada unetaresis, sruliad
saqarTvelos kaTolikos-patriarqis ilia meoris
dauRalavi Sromisa da didi Rvawlis Sedegad
saqarTvelos marTlmadidebeli samociqulo eklesiis
saganmanaTleblo kerebia:
1. Tbilisis sasuliero akademia da seminaria,
akademiasTan arsebuli saRvTismetyvelo instituti.
2. gelaTis sasuliero seminaria.
3. saqarTvelos sapatriarqos andria pirvelwo-
debulis saxelobis qarTuli universiteti.
4. saqarTvelos sapatriarqos wmida tbel-abuseriZis
saxelobis universiteti.
5. axalcixis sasuliero seminaria.
6. saqarTvelos sapatriarqos mowyalebis debisa da
socialuri medicinis instituti.
7. baTumis wmida ioane RvTismetyvelis saxelobis
sasuliero seminaria.
aseve arsebobs dekoratiuli mebaReobisa da
ekologiis instituti, sasuliero akademiasTan
arsebuli saeklesio galobisa da xalxuri simReris
umaRlesi saswavlebeli, saqarTvelos sapatriarqos aqvs
televizia `erTsulovneba~, radio, Jurnal-gazeTebi,
ibeWdeba sxvadasxva samecniero Sromebi da wignebi.
mixeil mumlaZe

duzje: fevzi Celebis (CelebaZe) 200 wlis winandeli qarTuli

buli winaprebis eniT isev davi-
££ wyebT laparaks. duzjes qarT-
velTa asociacias 10 weli Seus-
rulda axlaxan; Cven aq gvaqvs
qarTuli enis kursebi, sadac bevrs
davaswavleT wera-kiTxva, arTvinis
folklori; asev gvyavda Tbilisidan
Camosuli ori musikosi, romelic
qarTul folklors - sama-simReras
- aswavlis axalgazrdebs. Cveni
asociacia, aseve maspinZlobs xolme
23 aprilis ceremonialisTvis
saqarTvelodan Camosul bavSvTa
folklorul ansambls. ase vcxov-
robT jerjerobiT... piradad me vwer
qarTvelebis vinaobis Sesaxeb: Tur-
qeTSi am mxriv problemebia, infor-
macia ar aris... Cems dawerilebs er-
Tad Tu movyriT, wignic deibeWdeba.
axla ZiriTadad internetiT vavrce-
leb Cems mosazrebebs. samwuxaroa,
rom aqamde saqarTveloSi namyofi
ar var...
fevzis es "naklic" gamosworda:
2009 wlis 6 ivlisidan 14 ivlisamde
mas davaTvalierebine: baTumi, ureki,
quTaisi, varZia, mcxeTa, Tbilisi,
siRnaRi da aqauri eqspedicia davas-
ruleT jvarze; sasixaruloa, rom
mas Tan axldnen meuRle - nagehani
da Svilebi: dila da omeri (mesame -
miSa - jer pataraa samogzaurod);
b-ni amiran xvadagianis didi mondo-
mebiT fevzis da mis ojaxs sagangebod
umsapinZla quTaisma.
saocari fenomenia qarTveli ada-
miani: rogorc wesi, qarTveli bo-
lomde ibrZvis Tavisi qarTvelobis
gadasarCenad, zogjer ki uceb xdeba
Tavisi sisxlisa da xorcis pirsis-
xliani mteri: yvela Cemi megobari
Tu nacnobi TurqeTeli qarTveli
TurqeTis aSkara patriotia da, amave
dros, Zlierad axmianebs, ayivlebs
Tavis qarTul sisxls; iSviaT gamo-
nakliszec msmenia, romelsac Tavisi
qarTveloba rom miCqmalos, mSobl-
iuri soflis saxeli winsaTibi (foc-
xovTan/fosofTan axlos) sinsaTibad
mounaTlavs.
es grZeli, ufro zustad, didi
dRe eqspediciis erTi nawilisTvis
damTavrda saTvistomoSi gamarTuli
qarTveluri purobiT, meore nawili
ki wavediT duzjes televiziaSi.
duzjes televizia kolorituli
qarTveli patroniT da metad sain-
tereso SexvedrebiT dagvamaxsovrda.
am Sexvedraze Cveni lideria q-ni Tam-
ar RvinianiZe; mas mivyvebiT: me, vano
JorJoliani, giga qamuSaZe, fevzi Ce-
lebi, jemil Tinani da operatori
onise melqaZe. iq, telekompaniis
xelmZRvanelobasTan erTad, dagvxv-
dnen duzjes sxva deputatebi.
warmoSobiT qarTvel onder To-
nials duzjeSi vrceli teritoria
aqvs, sadac aris bevr saerTaSoriso
proeqtSi gamarjvebuli 2 liceumi, 1
telekompania da Ria restorani
(saloni), sadac qorwilebi imarTeba.
skola davaTvaliereT, televiziaSi
visaubreT da vimsjeleT; Semdeg
qorwilSi RviniTac viqeifeT (Cvens
misvlas simbolurad daemTxva
qarTvelisa da afxazis qorwili).
maspinZlebs quTaisis telekom-
pania "rionis", q-ni Tamar RvinianiZis
Rvawlisa da sxva stumrebis Sesaxeb
dawvrilebiTi informacia miawoda
vano JorJolianma.
fragmenti duzjes telekompaniis
direqtoris sapasuxo sityvidan:
- bednieri var esoden sapatio
stumrebis maspinZlobiT; aRfrTo-
vanebuli var, rom Sevxvdi Cemi fes-
visa da sisxlis mqone adamianebs...
Cemi televizia aris adgilobrivi
televizia, gvaqvs sainterneto mauw-
yeblobac da radioc. Cveni regioni
kosmopolituria, aq 28 enaze lapa-
rakoben. axla gverdiT rom qorwilia,
afxazi da qarTveli qorwindebian;
TqvenTan qarTvelebi da afxazebi
erTmaneTs xocavT, aq ki mSvidobiani
Tanacxovrebaa (amaze komentari auci-
leblad CavTvale, magram saubarSi
xeli ar SevuSale; mogvianebiT ki
ganvumarte e.w. qarTul-afxazuri
konfliqtis arsi)... Tumca, sabWoTa
kavSiris daSlis Semdeg qarTul-
afxazuri omi rom daiwyo, erT dRes
CemTan movidnen Cerqezebi da afxazebi
da miTxres: afxazebis dasaxmareblad
fuls vagrovebT da dagvexmareo.
miveci fuli da wasvlisas mklavSi
gamovde xeli da vuTxari; me qarTve-
li var da Cveneburebs cota esrole,
bevri arao; gakvirvebulebma Semom-
xedes da fuli ukan damibruneso
(icinis).
amis Semdeg me mokled movuyevi
sinamdvile ruseT-saqarTvelos omis
konfliqtis afxazeTis epizodis Se-
saxeb:
_ saqarTveloSi ar aris qarTul-
afxazuri da qarTul-osuri konf-
liqtebi; magaliTad, saqarTvelos
teritoriaze mcxovrebi osebis 2/3
cxovrobs Tbilissa da centralur
qarTlSi, mxolod 1/3 cxovrobs cxin-
valis mxareSi, romelsac komunis-
tebma samxreTi oseTi daarqves; sayo-
velTaod cnobilia isic, rom 1920
wlamde cxinvalSi oriode osuri
ojaxi cxovrobda. cxinvalSic da af-
xazeTSic mimdinareobs omi saqarT-
velosa da ruseTs Soris; rusebs
surT, mTlianad saqarTvelo Tu vera,
misi ori mxare mainc sabolood
dai pyron da daikanonon, am mizniT
ki iyeneben prorusulad aRzrdil
afxazebsa da osebs. rac Seexeba
afxazebs: bevri afxazi mSvidad da
mSvidobianad cxovrobs baTumsa Tu
TbilisSi; qarTvelebTan erTad ru-
sebma afxazeTidan gamodevnes
saqarTvelos saxelmwifos erTguli
eTnikuri afxazebi, romlebic
fiqroben, rom afxazebis gadarCena
mxolod saqarTvelos saxelmwifos
farglebSia SesaZlebeli; aseTi erT-
erTi cnobili gvaria, mag., marSan-
iebis gvari. afxazebi komunistebis
mier Seqmnil afxazeTis avtonomiur
respublikaSi mxolod 17% warmoa-
dgendnen; avtoqToni qarTveloba aq
45%-ze metia; aq rusebma daasaxles
agreTve somxebi da rusebi. dRes
afxazeTidan gamodevnilia qarTvel-
Ta udidesi nawili da afxazTa didi
nawili (am informaciiT gansakuT-
rebiT deputatebi dainteresdnen; iq
darCnen mxolod rusuli imperiis
samsaxurSi myofi afxazebi, qarTve-
lebi, rusebi da somxebi; mxolod
galis raionSi darCa namdvil qarT-
velTa nawili. es yovelive ucnobia
bevrisTvis, amitom realurad arse-
bul qarTul-rusul oms qarTul-
afxazur da qarTul-osur konfliq-
tebad naTlaven. ra Tqma unda, es aris
sainformacio da ideologiuri omis
Sedegebis asaxvac, amitom Cven erT-
maneTisa da simarTlisaTvis bevri
ramis gakeTeba SegviZlia).
dRes aq CvenTvis arsebiTia is, rom
batoni fevzi, batoni aidini, batoni
jemili da sxva msgavsi qarTvelebi
qmnian uryev bazas saqarTvelo-Tur-
qeTis ufro Sedegiani megobro-
bisaTvis; es megobroba erTad gagvi-
yvans evrokavSiris gzaze; mxolod
aseT SemTxvevaSi iqneba daculi Cveni
qveynebis interesebi, Cveni xalxebis
dedaenebi da kulturebi, Cveni
Tavisufali sityva...
televiziis studiebis daTvalie-
rebis Semdeg Sedga SeTanxmeba tele-
viziebis xelmZRvanelebs Soris in-
formaciis gacvlis Taobaze; mcire
xniT SeviareT lamaz qorwilSi da
RviniT davloceT qarTveli da af-
xazi siZe-dedofali, gadaviReT
samaxsovro suraTebi da gvian davb-
rundiT sastumroSi.
aseTi iyo duzjes qarTvelebsa da
xelisuflebasTan Sexvedris erTi
dRe.
bolos mogawvdiT cnobebs duz-
jeSi qarTvelTa dasaxlebebis Sesa-
xeb: sakuTriv duzjes (qalaqis) cent-
rSi bevri qarTveli cxovrobs. uSua-
lod vilaieTis centrSi (duzjeSi)
Semavali qarTuli soflebia: asari,
gurju Cifliqi, doRanli findiqli
aqsu, munjurlu, musababa. aqCaqojas
raionSi Sedis: melenaRzi, Sifiri;
Cilimli raionSi: sakuTriv Cilimli,
hizardere; goliaqas raionSi: haji
iaquf, hamamusTu [haji memed efendi];
qainaSlis raionSi: SimSiri, uCqo-
fru...
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pirveli qarTveli aviatoris aleqsandre
qarTvelis amerikuli ocneba~
Caifiqro da Seqmna safreni manqana, didi araferia. aago igi _ arc esaa didi bedena.
mTavaria, dedamiwas moswyvito igi da cad aWra
maka bibilaSvili
maSin, roca qarTuli ki-
noindustria ayvavdeba, qarT-
veli kinematografistebi au-
cileblad gadaiReben films
aviatorze. ra Tqma unda, es
ar iqneba martin skorsezes
filmis rimeiqi, es iqnebia fi-
lmi pirvel qarTvel avia-
torze. misi Semqmnelebi ity-
vian, rom filmi realur mov-
lenebzea agebuli da misi
mTavari personaJic realuri
gmiri _ qarTveli aleqsandre
qarTveliSvilia...
rac Seexeba mTavar per-
sonaJs:
aleqsandre qarTveliSvi-
li jer parizSi, Semdeg ki
amerikaSi gaemgzavra da SeiZ-
leba iTqvas, rom meore msof-
lio omSi sahaero brZolebi
misma agebulma gamanadgure-
belma moigo. Mister Kartveli-s
`tanderbolti~ amerikis, ing-
lisis, safrangeTis, brazili-
isa da Semdeg sabWoTa kavSi-
ris SeiaraRebaSi erT-erTi
mTavari sabrZolo TviTmfri-
navi iyo.
Tbilisidan parizamde
aleqsandre qarTveliSvi-
li _ aleqsandre qarTveli
TbilisSi 1896 wlis 9 seq-
tembers daibada. saTavadaz-
nauro gimnaziisa da iunkerTa
saswavleblis damTavrebis
Semdeg frontze gaiwvies da
pirvel msoflio omSi mo-
nawileobda. 1919 wels saqar-
Tvelos demokratiulma mTav-
robam saaviacio saqmis Sesas-
wavlad igi safrangeTSi gag-
zavna. parizSi dedasTan er-
Tad wavida, mama da da _ Ta-
mari ki TbilisSi darCnen.
parizSi aleqsandrem ae-
roklubi daamTavra da umaR-
les saaviacio skolaSi sain-
Jinro fakultetze ganagrZo
swavla. mas Semdeg, rac 1921
wels saqarTvelom damouki-
debloba dakarga da qveyanaSi
sabWoTa mmarTveloba damya-
rda, man samSobloSi dabru-
neba veRar SeZlo.
qarTveli emigranti xan ma-
Tematikis maswavleblad muSa-
obda, xan ki tanvarjiSis Seji-
brebebSi monawileobda. Sem-
deg pilotobas daeufla da
safrangeTis pirveli mfri-
navis, lui blerios saavia-
cio kompaniaSi daiwyo muSa-
oba, sadac axal modelebs
TviTon cdida. erT-erTi ga-
mocdisas kisris mala da xe-
rxemali daiziana. gamojan-
mrTelebis Semdeg kvlav fre-
nosnobas daubrunda, magram
bolos gadawyvita, rom pi-
lotoba misi saqme ar iyo da
TviTmfrinavebis konstruire-
ba daiwyo.
male Societe Indestriale-Si
konstruqtorad miiwvies, sa-
dac TviTmfrinavebis _ Ber-
narisa da Ferbua-s SeqmnaSi mi-
iRo monawileoba. mis mier
agebulma TviTmfrinavma 1924
wels siCqareSi msoflio rek-
ordi daamyara.
MFHSDTKT,B EW[JTSIB
aleqsandre qarTvelis
`amerikuli ocneba~
qarTveliSvili ramdenime
megobarTan erTad axali Tvi-
Tmfrinavis modelze muSa-
obda, romelic atlantikis
okeanes gadaseravda, 50 mgz-
avrze iyo gaTvlili da ame-
rikasa da evropas Soris pa-
rizi-niu-iorkis reisebze SeZ-
lebda frenas.
1927 wels milioneri Car-
lz levini gaicno. levins mi-
si idea moewona da or ko-
legasTan erTad amerikaSi mi-
iwvia. maT aqtiurad daiwyes
axal proeqtze muSaoba. pro-
eqtis dafinanseba levinma i-
Tava. magram maT Soris dapi-
rispireba moxda da levini
da konstruqtorebi erTma-
neTs daSordnen. amis Semdeg
qarTveli aviakonstruqtori
sakuTari aviakompaniis Seq-
mans cdilobda, magram es
did finansebTan iyo dakav-
Sirebuli, mas ki saamiso sax-
srebi ar hqonda.
1931 wels aleqsandre qar-
Tveli rusma emigrantma, se-
verskim Tavis kompaniaSi in-
Jinrad miiwvia. maTi TanamS-
romloba warmatebuli aRmo-
Cnda da male ramdenime TviT-
mfrinavi Seqmnes, ramac kom-
panias didi Semosavali da
aRiareba moutana. severskis
aviakompania amerikis saavia-
cio warmoebis erT-erT li-
derad iqca. AT-8 amerikis arm-
iis ZiriTadi sawvrTneli Tvi-
Tmfrinavi gaxda, xolo P35
aSS-is SeiaraRebaSi miiRes.
1939 wels kompanias
Rebublic viacorporation-i ewoda,
aleqsandre qarTveli mis
vice prezidentad dainiSna. am
droidan igi amerikuli
samxedro aviaciis erT-erTi
wamyvani konstruqtori
gaxda.
P-47
`mexTamfrqvevi~
1939 wels aleqsandrem ax-
ali gamanadgureblis P-47-is
daproeqteba daiwyo. rogorc
prinstonis universitetis
profesori givi kobaxiZe aR-
wers, roca `ohaios Statis
qalaq deitonSi specialur
sxdomaze oficrebma axali
moTxovnebi wamoayenes, qarT-
veliSvils iqve fanqrT mou-
xazavs axali TviTmfrinavis
proeqti. ase daibada misi
`meTxTamfrqvevi~ P-47 Thunder-
bolt-i. mravali cdis Semdeg
TviTmfrinavs nakli aRmoaC-
nda, romlis migneba konst-
ruqtorebma ver SeZles. saq-
meSi TviT amerikis prezide-
nti franklin ruzvelti Care-
ula, romelic konstruqto-
rebs aCqarebda, rom fronti-
sTvis manqana droze miewo-
debinaT. saamisod arafers
iSurebda. uzustesi xelsa-
wyoebis dasamzadeblad oqr-
oTi savse sabargo manqanebic
ki SeuyvaniaT qarxanaSi da
qarTveliSvilis pirad pasu-
xismgeblobaSi gadauciaT.
aleqsandrem naklis aRmoCe-
na-gamosworeba maleve SeZ-
lo, risTvisac ruzveltma
igi medliT daajildova `sa-
adre verc me da verc Cemi TanamSromlebi ver
warmovidgendiT, Tu rogor ganviTardeboda es
ubralo `mexTamfrqvevi~ momavalSi.
sabednierod, yvelaferi kargad dasrulda.
SemkveTis madlobac davimsaxureT. manqana
TviTon gamovcade. me Cemi pirmSo rva
tyviamfrqveviT aRvWurve, raTa saWiroebis
SemTxvevaSi, saTanadod `daekriWa kbilebi~.
manqana stratosferos qveda fenebSi
frenisTvis iyo gankuTvnili, SeeZlo
bombdamSenis eqskortireba, Setevaze gadasvla,
mtris ieriSis mogerieba, pikirebisas dabombva.
xelmwifo TavdacvisaTvi~.
P-47 Thunderbolt-i meore
msoflio omis legendaruli
TviTmfrinavia. is msoflio
aviaciis istoriaSi erT-erT
saukeTesod iTvleba. kompa-
niam 15 aTasi aseTi TviTmfr-
inavi awarmoa; maT jamSi 560
aTasze meti sabrZolo gaf-
rena Seasrula da mowinaaR-
mdegis 12 aTasamde mfrinavi
obieqti gaanadgures. P-47-s
omis yvela frontze iyene-
bdnen: britaneTSi, safrange-
TSi, braziliaSi, afrikaSi,
Soreul aRmosavleTsa da sa-
bWoTa kavSirSi. TviTmfrina-
vma kompania Republic vicorpora-
tion-i msofliooSi erT-erT
did da mZlavr kompaniad aq-
cia.
aleqsandre qarTveliSvi-
li mogonebebSi wers: `Caifiq-
ro da Seqmna safreni manqana,
didi araferia. aago igi _ arc
es aris didi bedena. mTavaria,
dedamiwas moswyvito igi da
cad aWra. adre verc me da
verc Cemi TanamSromlebi ver
warmovidgendiT, Tu rogor
ganviTardeboda es ubralo
`mexTamfrqvevi~ momavalSi.
sabednierod, yvelaferi kar-
gad dasrulda. SemkveTis mad-
lobac davimsaxureT. manqana
TviTon gamovcade. me Cemi
pirmSo rva tyviamfrqveviT
aRvWurve, raTa saWiroebis
SemTxvevaSi, saTanadod `daek-
riWa kbilebi~. manqana stra-
tosferos qveda fenebSi fre-
nisTvis iyo gankuTvnili, Se-
eZlo bombdamSenis eqskorti-
reba, Setevaze gadasvla, mt-
ris ieriSis mogerieba, piki-
rebisas dabombva.~
aviaciis reaqtiul eraSi
gadasvlis Semdeg qarT-
veliSvilma F-84 Thunderjet-i
Seqmna, romelmac koreis
omSi miiRo monawileoba da
romelic atomuri bombiT iyo
aRWurvili. rogorc mkvle-
vari rusudan dauSvili wers:
`misi modifikacia F-84 Thun-
dstrike-i, rogorc ZiriTadi
gamanadgurebeli bombdamSeni,
amerikis SeerTebuli Sta-
tebisa da `natos~ SeiaraRe-
baSi Sevida. xolo vietnamis
omSi monawile F-105 Thunder-
chie-i yvelaze didi da mZime
gamanadgurebeli iyo. sabWoTa
kavSiri am omSi artem miqo-
ianis daproeqtebul `mig~-ebs
iyenebda. anekdotic ki gavr-
celebula: `somxebma da qarT-
velebma xmeleTze brZola
daamTavres da axla haerSi
ebrvZian erTmaneTso~.
50-ian wlebSi aleqsandre
qarTveli mier Seqmnili F-
105 erT-erTi yvelaze mZlavri
gamanadgurebeli iyo aSS-Si.
mas gamoiyenebdnen, rogorc
gamanadgurebel bombdamSens,
romelsac atomuri bombis
tarebac SeeZlo.
qarTveliSvili sxvada-
sxva daniSnulebis TviTmf-
rinavebs qmnida, gansakuTre-
bul yuradRebas maT aero-
dinamikasa da garegnul sila-
mazes aqcevda.
1962 wels 66 wlis aleq-
sandre pensiaze gavida, Tumca
usaqmod didxans ver gaZlo.
1965 wels kompania Republic
Aviacorporacion-i Fairchild Hiller-
Tan gaerTianda. aleqsandre
erToba UNITY
qarTveli gardacvalebamde
am kompaniaSi muSaobda.
nostalgia
qarTvelma emigrantma uc-
xo qveyanaSi moRvaweoba maTe-
matikis maswavleblobiT da-
iwyo da aviaciis sferoSi
udides warmatebebs miaRwia.
rusudan dauSvili wers:
`misi saxeli Setanilia wignSi
"Who is Who?" igi iyo templisa
da bruklinis universitetebis
sapatio doqtori, saxelmwi-
fo saaviacio komitetisa da
mravali sazogadoebis: `saer-
TaSoriso saaviacio sazoga-
doebis~, `avtomaturi sainJin-
ro sazogadoebis~, `erovnuli
aeronavtikis asociaciis~, `ae-
ronavtikis samecniero insti-
tutisa~ da `samxedro TviT-
mfrinavebis mSeneblobis kom-
paniis~ wevri. magram yvelaze
did siamovnebas mas qarTul-
kavkasiuri sazogadoebis `al-
averdis~ wevroba aniWebda,
sadac Tanamemamuleebis gar-
da kavkasielebTanac hqonda
urTierToba.
`parizSi wasvlisas, aleq-
sandres ena rom ar daviw-
yeboda, qarTveliSviliseuli
`vefxistyaosani~ gaatanes.
profesori giorgi nakaSiZe
aRniSnavda, rom aleqsandres
saocari mexsiereba hqonda,
mTeli poema zepirad icoda.
wigns Zalian kargad uvlida,
Tumca aravisTvis daukavebia
da xelidan xelSi gadadi-
odao~.
prinstonis universitetis
profesori daviT jafariZe
ixsenebs, rogor mivida aleq-
sandre qarTveliSvili qarT-
vel mocekvaveTa koncertze
specialuri dacvis Tanx-
lebiT, romlis msgavsi mxo-
lod amerikis prezidents Tu
hyavda. Semdeg ki kulisebSi
Tvalcremlians uTqvams: _
aseTi bednieri cxovrebaSi ar
vyofilvaro. batoni daviTi
imasac ixsenebs, rom mas sax-
lSi kedlebze qarTuli Zeg-
lebis fotoebi hqonia gak-
ruli, yvelaze sapatio adgi-
lze ki `vefxistyaosani~ edo.
aleqsandres profesoris-
Tvis SeuTavazebia: _ gamom-
cade, romel gverdzec ginda
gadaSale da zepirad getyvi
poemis monakveTso.
saqarTveloSi darCenil
ojaxis wevrebTan aleqsand-
res mimowera hqonia, mamas da
das finansur daxmarebasac
uwevda, magram II msoflio om-
is Semdeg sabWoTa uSiSro-
ebis samsaxuri naTesavebTan
urTierTobis saSualebas aR-
ar aZlevda. 1966 wels, roca
avadmyofobis Semdeg Tamari
gardaicvala, Zmas depeSaSi
dauweria: _ imiT mainc aris
bednieri, rom mSobliur mi-
waSi daimarxebao...
aleqsandre qarTveli 1974
wels niu-iorkSi gulis Sete-
viT gardaicvala. meuRlem,
jin robinsma survili Seus-
rula da long ailendis q.
saiosetis marTlmadideblur
eklesiaSi auges wesi.
gazeTi `qarTuli
universiteti"
 UNITY erToba MFHSDTKT,B EW[JTSIB aprili-maisi, 2010 9

sulierebis dResaswauli romSi

rusTaveli, Cveni rusTaveli, mxurvale taSisa da qarTvelebis cremlnarevi sixarulis fonze,
nunu gelaZe
qarTul-italiuri sazogadoebis
`samSoblo, guliT satarebelis~
Tavmjdomare
Svidi saukunis manZilze idga
bnelSi qarTuli poeziis igavmiuwv-
domeli orfeosi, poetTa Soris
brZeni udidesi, brZenTa Soris moZR-
varT-moZRvari. arc erT saxls am-
Svenebs misi saxelis memorialuri
dafa, arc romelime akademiis wevrad
aurCeviaT igi odesme, arcTu dafniTa
da muxis foTlebiT SeumkiaT misTvis
Subli TanamedroveT, _ werda rusTa-
velis Sesaxeb 1937 wels konstantine
gamsaxurdia.
gaivlis sul oriode weli da
iakob nikolaZe mesxi meleqsis sam
gansxvavebul biusts gamokveTs. mog-
vianebiT ki, 1966 wels, mTeli msof-
lio didi qarTveli poetis 800 wlis
iubiles aRniSnavs; mis mSobliur
kuTxeSi ara erT kulturul Ronis-
Ziebas Caatarebs; mTel mesxeTs, didsa
da pataras, Teatrebsa Tu skolebs
Caabams da Cems mSobliur qalaq axal-
cixeSi moawyobs qarTuli sulierebis
dResaswauls, romlis mowme da mona-
wile, bevr sxva qarTvelTan erTad,
mec aRmovCndebi.
uneblieT ar gamxsenebia es yove-
li, ukve am mogonebebiT miviCqari 600
kilometrze, maradiuli qalaqisken,
raTa Cems axalSeZenil samSoblos
Tamamad vuTxra _ visi Svili var da
vin iyo Cemi winapari.
ar vici, emociis bralia, rom
milanis mudam moqufruli cis Semdeg
romis mziT savse kabadoni gaxsnili
meCveneba da vila borgezes uzarmazar
parkSi vikargebi. 80 heqtarze gadaWi-
muli es patara samoTxe uxsovari
droidan lukulusis baRebis saxel-
wodebiTaa cnobili da 1580 wlidan
kardinal Si pione borgezes mamulad
moixsenieba. is romis centrSi mdeba-
reobs da pinCanos raionis did da
kampo marcios (marsis moednis) mcire
nawils moicavs Tavisi cxra Sesasv-
leliT, uamravi quCiT, 35 SadrevniT,
15 SenobiTa da auracxeli monumen-
tiT. homerosis quCa ulamazes xeivans
miuyveba, sadac msoflio literatu-
ris klasikosTa Zeglebi mkveTrad
romis `mkvidri~ xdeba
Cans, marTla dgeba Jami, am ers `damarxul ars~ aRar eTqmodes
damaxasiaTebeli garegnobiT gamoir-
Cevian. sxvadasxva drosa da epoqaSi
aq aRumarTavT goeTes (1904 w.), fir-
dousis (1958 w.), gogolis (2002 w.) da
sxvaTa Zeglebi. dRes SoTa rusTaveli
daimkvidrebs Tavis kuTvnil adgils
maT gverdiT, sadac, iqneb axlomax-
losac, misi Soreuli winapris
farsman qvelis 144 wels aRmarTuli
Zegli dRis sinaTles elis...
am mSvenieri panTeonis SemaRle-
bul borcvze uamrav stumars mouy-
ria Tavi, ismis qarTuli "gamarjoba"
da "genacvale"; nacnobi Tu ucnobi
Tanamemamuleebi erTmaneTis mokiT-
xvisas siamayes ver malaven; saqarT-
velos elCebi, misi umaRlesoba qeT-
evan bagration muxraneli-orsini da
misi aRmatebuleba batoni konstan-
tine gabaSvili TiToeul qarTvels
xelis CamorTmeviTa da guliTadi
milocviT egebebian. qalaq romis muni-
ci palitetis vice meri da oficia-
luri pirebi JurnalistebTan inter-
viuebs ver audian. sayovelTao amaR-
lebul ganwyobas italiis da
saqarTvelos himnebi kidev ufro
sazeimos xdis, tribunaze erTmaneTs
cvlian oficialuri pirebi Tu mec-
nierebi, yvela erTsulovnad aRniS-
navs rusTavelis sidiades, mis Rvaw-
ls msoflio kulturis saganZurSi.
saboloo sityva, cxadia, saqarT-
velos kulturis, ZeglTa dacvisa da
sportis ministrs ekuTvnis (swored
misi xelSewyobisa da orive saelCos
didi Zalisxmevis Sedegia dRevan-
deli dRe). da rodesac nikoloz
rurua, Tavisi daxvewili qarTuliT,
italia-saqarTvelos urTierTobis
Soreul istorias, farsman qvelsa
da romSi mis stumrobas gaixsenebs,
aRniSnavs, rom qarTuli renesansi
yovel sxva renesansze uwinaresia da
rusTavelis aforizmebsac moiSve-
liebs siyvarulis, megobrobis, Wirsa
Sigan gamagrebis, borotze keTilis
Zlevis dasturad, daufaravi siamayiT
Sevcqeri italielebs, vgrZnob, rom
axalgazrda di plomatis, naTia sul-
avas SesaniSnavad Targmnili yoveli
sityva gaiTavises da Seafases, Tu
raoden mniSvnelovania dRevandeli
movlena uZvelesi kulturebis mqone
qarTveli da italieli xalxebi-
saTvis. mogvianebiT mTxoven kidec,
iqneb am avtoris nawarmoebis Targ-
mani mogvawodoo.
bolos ansambli "rusTavi" mrava-
lJamiers agugunebs da iakob niko-
laZis brinjaoSi gamokveTili rus-
Taveli, Cveni rusTaveli, mxurvale
taSisa da qarTvelebis cremlnarevi
sixarulis fonze, romis "mkvidri"
xdeba.
didi xania, ase erTsulovnad ga-
xarebuli amdeni qarTveli, amdeni
bednieri saxe ar minaxavs. didi xania,
erovnuli bednierebis aseTi Segr-
Zneba aRar mqonia. magram es zeaweuli
ganwyoba aq ar mTavrdeba: saRamos
mediCebis sasaxleSi romis warCine-
bul sazogadoebas, italiaSi akredi-
tebul elCebs, vatikanis saxelmwi-
fo mesveurebsa da sxvadasxva erov-
nebis maRal stumrebs qarTuli su-
lierebis namdvili dResaswauli
eliT _ saocari gemovnebiT SerCeuli
sakoncerto kompozicia: valerian Si-
ukaSvilis Seudarebeli safortepi-
ano xelovneba, msoflioSi popula-
ruli `sulxan cincaZis saxelobis
erovnuli simebiani kvarteti~ da sa-
yovelTaod aRiarebuli ansambli "ru-
sTavi". pianistisa da kvartetis mier
ubadlod Sesrulebuli yoveli
klasikuri nawarmoebi mayurebelma
mxurvale taSiT miiRo, magram
qarTul mravalxmian simReras fexze
wamoudga, dasasruls `rusTavma" sam
xmaSi neapoluri melodiac daamRera
da msmenelTa gaocebuli SeZaxilic
daimsaxura.
qarTuli pur-RviniT gasrulda
qarTuli sulierebis es dRe _ sas-
wauli. gasrulda, magram ar dasru-
lebula, daiwyo, rusTaveliT daiwyo
Cveni kuTvnili adgilis damkvidreba
msoflio kulturaSi, iTqva kidec
dRes _ italiur saskolo saxelmZ-
RvaneloebSi Seitanen "vefxistyao-
sans" da Tu ase moxdeba, Cans, marTla
dgeba Jami, am ers "damarxul ars"
aRar eTqmodes da Tavisi erovnuli
RirsebiT, mSvidobismoyvare xasiaTiT,
Tavisi sulieri da kulturuli
faseulobiT Tanamedrove msofios
Rirseuli wevri gaxdes.
romi, 2010 wlis 9 aprili

rusTavelis qandakeba romSi Semofarglulia

gamoCenili mwerlebis biustebiT
velos Rirseuli Svilebis Rvawli _ ramdenadac CvenTvis cnobilia,
romSi, vila borgezes parkSi, romelic 80 aTas heqtarzea gadaWimuli, da maTi Semoqmedeba, magram maTSi, male romis erT-erT quCas Tbilisis
9 aprils, 12 saaTze sazeimod gaixsna rusTvelis monumenti, romelic did vinc Cvens kulturasa da xelovnebas saxeli daerqmeva. xom ver gvetyodiT
qarTvel moqandakes, rodenis moswavles, iakob nikolaZes ekuTvnis. gaecno da eziara, yoveli siaxle did amis Sesaxeb?
amieridan genialuri qarTveli poeti Rirseul adgils daimkvidrebs interess iwvevs. _ rodesac romis vice-merma stum-
udides moRvaweTa ulamazes saufloSi. amiT daixureba vila borgeze da _ ra mniSvneloba eniWeba aseT rebs amis Sesaxeb auwya, udidesi
meti Zegli iq aRar daidgmeba. movlenebs, aris Tu ara es saqarTve- siurprizi iyo damswreTaTvis, ramac
gaxsnis ceremonias, oficialur pirebTan erTad, qarTuli diasporis los aRiareba? Zalian didi sixaruli da ovacia
warmomadgenlebic eswrebodnen. imave saRamos mediCebis sasaxlem qarTul _ raRa Tqma unda! mxolod is rad gamoiwvia. minda, udidesi madloba
delegacias umaspinZla. gaimarTa sazeimo koncerti ansambl "rusTavis" Rirda, qarTvelma momReralma anita gadavuxado yvelas, vinc es RonisZieba
monawileobiT. ramdenime kompozicia cnobilma pianistma valerian Siuka- raWveliSvilma `karmeniT~ rom gaxsna moawyo. saqarTvelos saelCos didi
Svilmac Seasrula. `la skalas~ sezoni. Cveni sazogad- wvlili miuZRvis, madlobas vuxdiT
am emociuri dRis STabeWdilebebs specialurad `qarTuli univer- oebis moRvaweobamac didi wvlili saqarTvelos kulturis saministrosa
sitetisTvis~ italiis qarTuli diasporis warmomadgeneli qalbatoni Seitana saqarTvelos populariza- da aranakleb madlierebas gamovxa-
gulnazi lomTaTiZe gviziarebs. ciaSi, kerZod, SesaniSnavma pirov- tavT qalbatoni qeTevan bagration-
qeTevan qurdovaniZe nebam, qarTvelma emigrantma, qalba- orsinis udidesi mowadinebisTvis,
tonma nino yauxCiSvilma. kidev uam- romelmac iq myofT mediCebis Sesa-
ravi adamianis dasaxeleba SeiZleba. niSnav sasaxleSi sazeimo koncertis
_ albaT, Znelia im emociis gad- qandakeba Semofarglulia gamoCenili _ TqvenTvis, italiaSi mcxovrebi gamarTvis SesaZlebloba misca. kon-
mocema, romelic am dRes axlda. mwerlebis biustebiT. qarTvelebisTvis, ra datvirTva certs italiis elitaruli sazoga-
gviambeT, rogoria vila borgezes _ iyvnen Tu ara Camosulebi eqneba rusTavelis monuments? doeba eswreboda: Tormeti qveynis el-
parki da uSualod sad daidga qarTvelebi sxva qveynebidan? _ qarTvelisTvis udidesi sixaru- Cebi, kardinalebi da bevri gamoCenili
rusTavelis qandakeba? _ sxva qveynebidan ar vici, magram lia da didi siamayis grZnobis mom- moRvawe. saRamo damSvenda qarTuli
_ es eniT auwereli emociaa, rome- sakmaod bevri qarTveli eswreboda. tania rusTavelis Zeglis arseboba musikiT, bolos _ qarTuli samza-
lic yovel qarTvels eufleba aseTi _ ramdenad didia evropelTa in- aseT mniSvnelovan adgilas. es grZ- reuloTi da, ra Tqma unda, RviniT,
RirsSesaniSnavi manifestaciis dros. teresi am movlenis mimarT, icnoben noba SeiZleba SevadaroT itali- romliTac mravali sadRegrZelo iT-
vila borgeze moicavs romis erT-erT Tu ara rusTavels italiaSi? elebis siamayes, rodesac evropis ro- qva da ansambl `rusTavis~ `Cakrulo~
udides teritorias, romelic ula- _ ra Tqma unda, evropelebis udi- melime mniSvnelovan qalaqSi dantes da `mravalJamieric~ aJRerda.
mazes xeds gadahyurebs da rusTavelis desi nawilisTvis ucnobia saqarT- Zegls naxaven. gazeTi `qarTuli universiteti"
 10 aprili-maisi, 2010
me vdgavar `mesame~ napirze _
mdinares aseTi napiric aqvs
ratom davtove saqarTvelo, Cveni mamuli da deduli egzom mSvenieri da tkbili?
grigol robaqiZe 1931
wels ormocdaaTs iyo gada-
cilebuli, roca samSoblo
datova da germaniaSi gaemg-
zavra. rogorc aRmoCnda _
samudamod...
1945 wels igi germaniidan
SveicariaSi midis da JenevaSi
saxldeba. saqarTvelos imd-
roindeli xelisuflebis
mier `xalxis mtrad~ Serac-
xuli mwerali `Soreuli fes-
vebiT~ mainc samSoblosTan
iyo dakavSirebuli, rogorc
TviTon wers, `ucxoeTSi myo-
fs swored es fesvebi acoc-
xlebda~.
emigraciaSi Seqmnilma Tx-
zulebebma mas evropaSi sa-
yovelTao aRiareba moutana.
rogorc eqvTime TayaiSvili
wers, `germanelebi mas Tavis
mweral aRiarebdnen~.
samwuxarod, grigol ro-
baqiZis Semoqmedebis didi
nawili ucnobia qarTveli
mkiTxvelisTvis, radgan gar-
dacvalebis Semdeg mwerlis
piradi arqivi germaniaSi
darCa da misi bedi dRemde
gaurkvevelia.
grigol robaqiZisaTvis
germaniaSi wasvlisTanave ar
CamourTmeviaT sabWoTa moq-
alaqeoba. es 1935 wels moxda,
rodesac mwerali bolSe-
vizmis arssa da mosalodnel
Sedegebze daufaravad alapa-
rakda.
sabWoTa xelisuflebam
mwerlis winaaRmdeg sastiki
da uzneo kampania wamoiwyo.
gazeT `komunistsa~ da `mna-
TobSi~ saqarTvelos mwera-
lTa kavSiris prezidiumi-
sadmi aseTi Sinaarsis mimar-
Tva gamoqveynda: `araviTari
dandoba klasobriv mtrebs~.
es sityvebi pirdapir grigol
robaqiZis winaaRmdeg iyo
mimarTuli. werilSi naTqvami
iyo, rom robaqiZe TvalTmaq-
cobda, atyuebda xelisufle-
bas, mwerlobas, sazogado-
ebas; rom is faSistTa banakSi
gadavida, iyo `socialisturi
samSoblos~ moRalate da a.S.
maSin mxolod ramdenime mwe-
rals eyo gambedaoba, mas
gamosarCleboda. maT Soris
erT-erTi mixeil javaxiSvili
iyo. magram robaqiZes vera-
ferma uSvela. misi saxelis
xseneba da Semoqmedeba saqa-
rTveloSi aikrZala.
gavixsenoT, ra viTareba
iyo qveyanaSi, roca grigol
robaqiZem samSoblo datova.
1931 weli is periodia,
roca saqarTveloSi komu-
nizms ukve kargad hqonda fexi
mokidebuli, represiebi mZvin-
varebda, cenzura batonobda,
damoukidebel saqarTvelosa
da mis gaTavisuflebaze aR-
arc ki fiqrobdnen. qveynis
mTavroba emigraciaSi iyo.
eqvTime TayaiSvili qarTuli
saganZuris meTvalyured iyo
wasuli, erovnuli gmirebidan
_ kote afxazi bolSevikebs
ukve daxvretili hyavdaT,
qaqucac iZulebiT emigracia-
Si iyo, erovnuli mTavrobis
wevrebi evropas iyvnen Sexiz-
nulni da iqidan amaod cdi-
lobdnen saqarTvelos damou-
kideblobis aRdgenas. vin
MFHSDTKT,B EW[JTSIB erToba UNITY
gardaicvala. auare- muli da deduli egzom mSve- erTs ver daasaxelebT. mo-
beli istoriuli ma- nieri da tkbili? lotovi SeiZleba ufro Zrwis
sala saqarTvelos ...yurebi gvaqvs gamoWedi- iq, vidre ubralo moqalaqe.
Sesaxeb daikarga~. li, xalxTa keTildReobi- erTad erTi gamokleba aris
rogorc am Cana- saTvis vibrZviTo; amave dr- mxolod stalini, magram is
weridanac Cans, gri- os, rogorc cocxal krebu- soso juRaSvili ki ar aris,
gol robaqiZe sakmao ls, basri daniT saxsrebs uxs- aramed pirovnuli gansaxie-
keTilganwyobiT sa- nian. xalxis alags masaa game- reba im upirovno ZalTa, ro-
rgeblobda germa- febuli, romelSic pirovneba, melTac warmoSves bol-
niis ara mxolod es uxvTieresi movlena, sru- Sevizmi.
literaturul, ara- liad iTqvifeba. araviTari ...ra gind warxdes adamiani,
med politikur wre- saxe aq araa da maSasadame masSi mainc rCeba naperwkali
ebSic, mis mimarT si- araviTari saxieri. misi RvTiuri cecxlisa, exla
mpaTias Tavad hit- ...adamiani mxolod da mxo- aiReT sabWoeTis adamiani.
leric gamoxatavda. lod maSinaa adamiani, roca masSi SeWrilia bolSevis-
eqvTime TayaiSvi- igi Tavis-ufalia; Tavisuf- turi elementi, xolo ise,
li ase xsnis gri- lebaa sxivuri elementi ada- rom am elements verc SeunT-
gol robaqiZisa da mianSi. vinaa Tavisufali sab- qavs misi adamianuri elementi
sxva qarTvelebis WoeTSi? aravin. iq yvelaferi da ver ganudevnia igi. gra-
keTilganwyobas ge- akrZalulia, raic araa brZa- fiulad aseTi adamiani waa-
rmaniisa da hitle- nebuli. dRes rom erTi br- gavs arabul cifrs `8~. erT
risadmi: `gitleri Zaneblobs, xval igi dasaxv- naxevari am cifrisa bolSev-
Tavis mxriv srule- retad mihyavT. berias xvedri isturi elementia, meore ki
biT ar uqadda qar- sabWoeTSi gamonaklisi araa.
grigol robaqiZe: mowyvetili var
adamianur. am or elementTa
Tvelebs, rom is ru- iq igi yoveldRiuri movle- Soris ganuwyveteli brZolaa
Cvens deda miwas, xolo Soreuli seTis dapyrobis naa. daxvretT guSindeli mbr- gamarTuli~.
Semdeg sul mcire
fesvebiT mainc masTan var. es fesvebia
Zaneblisa SiSis qari urbenT eseSi `gulnadebi~ grigol
avtonomias miscem- saxsrebSi; fiqroben: maTac ar
ucxoeTSi rom macocxleben... da. Tumca amaSi mas xvdeT es bedi. aris es demok-
robaqiZe Riad acxadebs, rom
man sabWoTa kavSiri ideo-
arwmunebda CvenSi ratia? SesaZloa, SemedaoT am logiuri mosazrebiT datova:
rogor cdilobda Tavis dac- bolSevikebis dros debulebis gamo, garna vici `sabWoTa kavSiri davtove id-
vasa da gatanas... vinc darCa, w a r m o m a dgeneli. is sadRac mimalul kunWulSi
eubneboda, rom qarTvelebi eologiuri mosazrebiT. Cem-
an represiebs ewireboda, an Tqveni arsisa dameTanxmebiT. Tvis ara Tu marqsis materi-
axal reJims emoneboda. Zveli kulturs xalxia da Tanxmobas myisve miCqmalavT,
alisturi dogma, TviT magis-
swored am dros grigol Rirsni arian miiRon avto- radgan SiSi agiyvanT, malu- tralic ki dasavleTis fi-
robaqiZec tovebs saqarT- nomiao. magram gitleri amaSi li azri Tqveni, rom ar iqnas
losofiisa miuRebelia.
velos. bolSevikebis logika ar eTanxmeboda. miuxedavad yuradRebuli. sabWoeTSi kacs iyo Cemi nabiji mizanmimar-
aseTi iyo: `vinc CvenTan ar amisa, qarTvelebi mainc didi SiSis gamo mosvenebiT verc
Tuli? sxva ityoda, `isto-
aris _ Cveni mteria!..~ amas momxreebi iyvnen gitlerisa~. ki dauZinia. eSinia sizmarSi rias mivandoT amis gadawy-
daemata is faqtic, rom xal- faqti, rom robaqiZem hit- bodviT ar wamoscdes gul-
vetao~. me istorias arafers
xSi xma gavrcelda, grigol lersa da musolinze monog- nadebi azri raime. aseTia sab-
vandob, radgan igi friad da-
robaqiZe faSistebs daumego- rafiebi dawera, ar unda niS-
brda da monografiebi dawera navdes, rom igi faSistebis
hitlersa da musolinzeo... es mxareze gadavida. Canawerebsa
...adamiani mxolod da mxolod maSinaa
informacia eqvTime TayaiSvi- da eseebSi revoluciaze, bo-
adamiani, roca igi Tavis-ufalia;
lis pirad arqivSic aRmov- lSevizmsa da sabWoTa kav-
aCineT. misi, rogorc erT- Sirze mwerali stalins, marq- Tavisuflebaa sxivuri elementi adamianSi.
erTi yvelaze miukerZoebeli ssa da leninsac xSirad ax- vinaa Tavisufali sabWoeTSi? aravin. iq
adamianis, azri marTlac sain- senebs, magram igi arc revo- yvelaferi akrZalulia, raic araa
teresoa... lucioneri yofila da arc brZanebuli. dRes rom erTi brZaneblobs, xval
eqvTime TayaiSvili: `germ- komunisti. eseSi `lenini~ gri- igi dasaxvretad mihyavT. berias xvedri
anelebs berlnSi bevri qarT- gol robaqiZe wers: `visac sabWoeTSi gamonaklisi araa. iq igi
veloba aRmoaCndaT momxre da ganucdia, Tu ra aris Tavi-
yoveldRiuri movlenaa. daxvretT guSindeli
gitleris Tayvanismcemeli. sufleba _ monobis mospoba mbrZaneblisa SiSis qari urbenT saxsrebSi;
isini darwmunebuli iyvnen, _ adamianis Rirsebis aRdgena
fiqroben: maTac ar xvdeT es bedi.
rom saqarTvelo mxolod _ qveynis gadaxaliseba _ erTa
gitleris saSualebiT miiRe- TviTdamyareba: mas ar SeuZ- aris es demokratia?
bda Tavisuflebas. aq did lia ar axsenos saxeli le-
wvlils TamaSobda ukve bo- ninis, ganurCevlad partiuli
WoeTis samoTxe. es samoTxe
lSevikebis dros saqarTve- dayofis da programebisa. mivatove da ara namdvili sa-
undobelia. me istorias ara-
lodan gagzavnili grigol roca radiom leninis si- fers vandob, radgan igi fri-
kvdili msoflios acnoba, al- moTxe, Seudarebeli samSob- ad daundobelia. ...me ukanask-
robaqiZe. germanelebs misi
baT haerSi misi talRa sxva- lo Cveni. mowyvetili var nelisgan ziareba mimiRia da
fantastikuri romanebi da na-
Cvens deda miwas, xolo Sore-
werebi moswondaT da Tavis nairad daiklakna. me ara mTeli qveyanac ki rom axma-
uli fesvebiT mainc masTan
mwerlad aRiarebdnen. sxva- mgonia arsebobdes adamiani, urdes Cems winaaRmdeg _ es
var. es fesvebia ucxoeTSi
TaSoris man gitlerze da mu- romelic leninis sikvdiliT me ver Semarxevs.
rom macocxleben.
solinze dawera patara mo- ar Serxeuliyos~. sabWoeTSi hgoniaT: TiTqos
da mainc... ratom datova qalno da vaJno, axalgazr-
nografia, romelSic ambobda, me `meore~ napirze vidge. araa
saqarTvelo grigol robaqi- debo! dRe araa Tqvenze da
rom gitleri da musolini marTali. me vdgavar `mesame~
TqvenTvis ar vfiqrobde gu-
Cveulebrivi kacebi ki ar ari- Zem? es kiTxva Tavis droze napirze _ mdinares aseTi napi-
laCuyebuli da Tvalcrem-
an, aramed zekacebic arian bevrs awuxebda: qarTvelebs, ric aqvs. vinc am napirze dgas,
kosmosisagan warmoSobili araqarTvelebs, bolSevikeb- liani~.
emigrantul JurnalSi `be- is verc moazred gamodgeba
da gitlerma Tavis werilSi, sac da arabolSevikebsac. es da verc xelovanad~.
r a s u n d a k i T x u l o b d n e n kiTxva, albaT, Tavad mweral- di qarTlisa~, romelsac sa-
frangeTSi kalistrate salia grigol robaqiZe 1962
germanelebi pirvel rigSi, sac araerTxel dausvams sak-
gamoscemda, grigol roba- wlis 1 noembers gardaicvala
dawera Tavis mogonebebi `main uTari TavisTvis... ra Tqma un-
JenevaSi da iqve daikrZala.
kamp~ da meore rigSi imis da, amaze pasuxi hqonda, mag- qiZesTan interviu daibeWda,
grigol robaqiZis broSura. ram mainc xSirad uwevda axs- Cawerili Jurnalis kores- 1976 wels misi neSti nino da
ra Tqma unda igi didi SeZ- na. pondentis konstantine sali- kalistrate saliebis Taos-
lebis kaci gaxldaT ger- 1954 wels radiomimarTv- as mier. mwerali kvlav saqa- nobiT safrangeTSi, levilis
maniaSi. is movida CemTan aSi qarTveli axalgazrdebi- rTvelodan wasvlis mizezeb- qarTul sasaflaoze gadaa-
parizSi sxvebTan erTad, mar- sadmi grigol robaqiZe pir- sa da bolSevizmis siaveze svenes. memkvidris gareSe
wmunebda wavsuliyavi germa- dapir ambobs, rom sabWoeTSi saubrobs. darCenili mwerlis bina po-
niaSi da iq yvelafris gamo- xalxi damonebulia da iq `damisaxeleT, Tu ginda liciam daluqa. misi piradi
cemis saSualeba meqneboda. Tavisufali aravinaa. erTi pirovneba, romelic arqivis didi nawili ki dRem-
profesori avaliSvili da- nawyveti radiomimarTvi- Tavisufali iyves sabWoeTSi. de dakargulad iTvleba...
arwmunes da waiyvanes ger- dan: `SemekiTxebiT: ratom dav- ara marto arabolSevikur,
maniaSi, sadac igi udrood tove saqarTvelo, Cveni ma- aramed bolSevikur wreebSi. maka bibilaSvili
 UNITY erToba
_ batono buba, rogorc TqvenT-
vis cnobilia, amerikis SeerTebul
StatebSi ukve 100 aTasze meti
qarTveli cxovrobs. Cven viciT, rom
Tqven qarTulma sazogadoebam ga-
gicnoT Zalze axalgazrdul asak-
Si. Tqveni moRvaweobis aqtiuri xana
daemTxva qarTvelobis didi raode-
nobiT gadinebas amerikis SeerTebul
StatebSi da amitom Cveni mkiTxve-
lisTvis sainteresoa da saWiroa ax-
los gagicnoT. gTxovT, gviamboT
Tqven Sesaxeb.
_ ver vityvi, rom Cemi specialoba
bavSvobidan miyvarda. mama - kaxmeg
kudava fizikosa, deda - dali gviCiani
ki - qimikosi. Sesabamisad, ojaxuri
garemo Cems arCevanze gavlenas axde-
nda. komarovis saxelobis fizika-
maTematikuri skola davamTavre da
Tbilisis saxelmwifo universitetis
fizikis fakultetze Cavabare. swav-
lebis pirvelive wels mtkiced gadav-
wyvite, rom saqarTvelos istoria,
romlisadmi interesi, sruliad mou-
lodnelad da ucnaurad, skolaSi
swavlis bolo wlebSi gamiRvivda,
Cemi cxovrebis nawilad unda meqcia.
miuxedavad imisa, rom fizikos mamas
imedebi `gavucruve~, man da misma me-
gobrebma Zala ar daiSures da SeZ-
les, rom universitetis xelmZRvane-
lobas uprecendento gamonaklisi
daeSva da fizikis fakultetis stu-
dents istoriis fakultetze swavlis
gagrZelebis saSualeba momeca. ara-
sodes damaviwydeba profesor kor-
neli danelias gansakuTrebuli mxar-
daWera da Cemi didi molodini, ro-
melic axali cxovrebis dawyebas Tan
axlda. maxsovs gulisamaCuyebeli ga-
ncxadebac, romliTac universitetis
reqtors - nodar amaRlobels miv-
marTe.
Tumca idga 1990-iani wlebis dasa-
wyisi da Cemi imedic, rom lamazad
dawyebuli studentoba aseve lamazad
gagrZeldeboda, male gamicruvda. sam-
xedro gadatrialebam da mis Sedegad
gamefebulma usamarTlobam, terito-
riebis dakargvam Zalze didi fsiqo-
logiuri gavlena iqonia mTel Cems
ojaxze. Sinaganma protestma da usu-
surobis gancdam sabolood damarw-
muna, rom erTaderTi
gamosavali sakuTari pro-
fesiisa da saqmisadmi Tav-
dauzogavi msaxureba iyo.
albaT ase mivedi me-4
kursis studenti axalgazrda
istorikosTa samecniero-
popularuli Jurnalis - `ar-
tanujis~ daarsebamde (1993
w.), romlis pirveli nomris
prezentacia 1994 wels Cemi
da Cemi megobrebisTvis cxovrebaSi
kidev erTi axali etapis dasawyisad
iqca. universitetis reqtorma roin
metrevelma `artanujelebs~ gza dag-
viloca da universitetSi muSaobis
dawyeba SemogvTavaza. ase aRmovCndiT
jer kidev studentebi da axalkurs-
damTavrebulebi qarTuli di plomat-
iis istoriis samecniero-kvleviT
centrSi, Semdeg ki - saqarTvelos
istoriis kaTedraze.
Jurnalis yoveli nomris gamo-
cemaze bevrs vwvalobdiT. Tanxebis
moZiebidan dawyebuli, koreqturiT
damTavrebuli, yvelafris keTeba
ramdenime adamians gviwevda. miuxe-
davad imisa, rom qveyanaSi ukve mrav-
lad iyvnen axlad gamoCekili biz-
nesmenebi, sponsoris Sovna sakmaod
rTuli aRmoCnda. Tumca imedi aras-
odes damikargavs da RmerTic yove-
lTvis aCenda adamianebs, romelTac
kargad esmodaT dangreul qveyanaSi
axalgazrduli saistorio Jurnalis
gamocemis mniSvneloba. aseTi adami-
anebis gverdSi dgoma mTeli cxovr-
ebis manZilze did magaliTad gamyve-
ba.
momdevno didi etapi cxovrebaSi
ojaxis Seqmna da vaJis - kaxas daba-
deba iyo. marTalia, momavali meuRle
- nino miwiSvili - Tanajgufeli iyo,
BYNTHDBE
magram Cveni daaxloveba mainc `ar-
tanujs~ ukavSirdeba. dRemde xumrobs
Cemze, colad imitom momiyvana, rom
statiebis reziumeebis inglisurad
mTargmneli sWirdebodao, Tanac
iseTi, honorars rom ar moTxovdao.
Semdegi nabiji universitetSi
leqciebis dawyeba gaxda. batoni roin
metreveli amavdroulad saqarTve-
los istoriis kaTedris gamgec gax-
ldac. swored misi iniciativiT, 2-3
weliwadSi, araerT axalgazrda
TanamSromels mogveca profesiuli
zrdis SesaZlebloba. Cems Tvalwin
axali samyaro gadaiSala _ Ta-
obisTvis, romlis nawiladac vgrZ-
nobdi Tavs, ucbad didi'aRmovCndi.
studentebi momexmarnen, rom 27 wlis
asakSi sakuTar TavSi aRmomeCina, rom
cotaodeni vici, rom Cemgan mcire-
odeni codnisa da gamocdilebis mi-
win didi gegmebi gvaqvs...
interviu saqarTvelos xelnawerTa erovnuli centris
direqtorTan, profesor buba kudavasTan
Reba SeuZliaT. xSirad pedagogiuri
procesi eqskursiebze grZeldeboda,
eqskursiebi ki megobrobaSi gadad-
ioda. bevr Cems nastudentarTan dRem-
de vmegobrob, maTi erTi nawili dRes
Cemi kolegebic arian.
disertacia cota mogvianebiT, 2003
wels davicavi. naSromi eklesiis
istoriis saintereso periods exe-
boda _ dasavleT saqarTvelos ekl-
esia konstantinopolis sapatriarqos
daqvemdebarebaSi da afxazeTis sak-
aTalikosos warmoqmna.
2003 wlidan megobrebi da kole-
gebi xSirad vstumrobT istoriul
tao-klarjeTs, vawyobT saistorio
eqspediciebs.
2005 wels, sruliad moulodne-
lad, Tbilisis saxelmwifo univer-
sitetis istoriis fakultetis deka-
nis Tanamdebobaze aRmovCndi. mZime,
sareformo periodi iyo da male dav-
rwmundi, rom is sazogadoeba, rome-
lic TiTqosda reformas axorcie-
lebda, Sinaganad ewinaaRmdegeboda
mas. imasac mivxvdi, rom unda gave-
mijno im process, romelic arafers
cvlis, me ki dros makargvinebs...
_ didi xani ar gasula, rac Tq-
ven dainiSneT xelnawerTa erovnuli
centris direqtorad. mokled gvi-
ambeT centris warsulze da dRevan-
delobaze.
_ 2006 wels xelnawerTa insti-
tutis (imJamad ase erqva xelnawerTa
erovnul centrs) direqtoris - zaza
aleqsiZis in-
iciativiT
jer direq-
toris moad-
giled, Sem-
deg ki direq-
torad da-
viniSne. de-
kanobisa ar
iyos, es wina-
dadebac mou-
lodneli iyo Cem-
Tvis. miuxedavad im-
isa, rom, Cemi speci-
alobidan gamomdina-
re, periodulad xe-
lnawerTa institu-
tTan garkveuli Se-
xeba mqonda, es saqme
mainc axali iyo Cem-
Tvis.
xelnawerTa ins-
tituti 1958 wels,
profesor ilia abulaZis iniciativiT
daarsda (vfiqrob, es adamiani, rom-
lis Sesaxebac kidev ufro meti gavige
''xelnawerebSi'muSaobis dawyebis
Semdeg, met dafasebas imsaxurebs qa-
rTveli sazogadoebisagan). Tamamad
SeiZleba iTqvas, rom misi direqto-
rebis (ilia abulaZe, elene metreve-
li, zaza aleqsiZe) xelmZRvanelobiT
am samecniero-kvleviTma institutma
sruliad samarTlianad daimkvidra
erT-erTi mTavari qarTvelologiuri
(da ara marto qarTvelologiuri)
centris saxeli rogorc saqarTve-
loSi, ise mis farglebs gareT.
dRes Cveni erT-erTi mTavari amo-
cana swored am tradiciis SenarCu-
neba da ganviTarebaa. garda amisa,
drom dawesebulebis winaSe axali
amocanebi dasva: gavaaqtiuroT is mima-
rTulebebi, romlebic uwin, obieqturi
Tu subieqturi mizezebis gamo, sustad
iyo ganviTarebuli. amitomacaa, rom
vcdilobT meti yuradReba davuTmoT
sagamofeno saqmes, urTierTobas
sxvadasxva safexuris saganaTleblo
dawesebulebebTan, restavracia-kon-
servaciasa da digitalizacias, mona-
cemTa bazebis Seqmnas, sazogado-
ebasTan urTierTobis gaaqtiurebas...
yovelive amis ganviTarebisaTvis
ki xelnawerTa erovnul centrs (ase
ewodeba instituts 2007 wlidan) uzar-
mazari potenciali aqvs - erTi mxriv,
sakadro resursisa da meore mxriv,
umdidresi koleqciis wyalobiT. Cveni
fondebi xom aerTianebs 10 aTas
qarTul da 5 aTas ucxoenovan xel-
nawer wigns, 40 aTas qarTul da 5
aTas ucxoenovan istoriul doku-
ments, 200-mde moRvawis pirad arqivs,
umdidres sabiblioTeko fonds memo-
rialuri kabinetebiTurT.
bolos ar SemiZlia esec ar vTqva:
aseTi zogadsakacobrio da naciona-
luri mniSvnelobis koleqcia, vfiq-
rob, ufro met saxelmwifoebriv da
sazogadoebriv yuradRebas saWiro-
ebs.
_ ras gegmavT uaxles momavalSi
Tqven saqmianobaSi?
_ bolo wlebia, Cemi samuSao dro-
is ZiriTadi nawili xelnawerTa er-
ovnul centrs eTmoba. Sesabamisad,
uaxlesi gegmebic mas ukavSirdeba.
garda zogadi miznebisa, centrs gan-
saxorcieleblad bevri konkretuli
amocanac aqvs, magaliTad: gvsurs
CamovayaliboT kaligrafiis skola-
saxelosno bavSvebisaTvis; vizrunoT
xelnawerTa erovnuli centris mego-
barTa sazogadoebis dafuZnebisaTvis;
saqarTveloSi CamovitanoT msofli-
os sxvadasxva qveyanaSi daculi qarT-
vel emigrantTa da maT STamomavalTa
piradi arqivebi (magaliTad, argen-
tinidan Camosatania Tamar da akaki
papavebis arqivi da biblioTeka); yve-
laferi viRonoT,
raTa gamosacemad
m o m z a d e b u l i
didZali samecniero
masala male iqces
wignebad, krebule-
bad, katalogebad,
albomebad; gavake-
ToT sagamofeno
darbazis rekonst-
ruqcia Tanamedrove
standartebis
Sesabamisad;
ganvaxorcie-
loT sacave-
bis, restavra-
cia-konserva-
ciisa da di-
gitalizaciis
laborato-
riebis sarea-
bilitacio
proeqtebi da a.S.
_ ra mdgomareobaSia dReisaTvis
uZvelesi qarTuli xelnawerebi?
_ xelnawerebze zrunva dausru-
lebeli procesia. marTalia, saqarT-
velos sxva siZveleTsacavebTan Seda-
rebiT CvenTan gacilebiT ukeTesi mdg-
omareobaa, Tumca imisaTvis, rom Se-
noba, calkeuli sacavebi, sagamofeno
darbazi da laboratoriebi movides
aprili-maisi, 2010 11
saerTaSoriso standartebTan Sesa-
bamisobaSi, Zalian bevria gasakeTe-
beli. xelnawerTa erTma nawilma Cve-
namde karg mdgomareobaSi moaRwia,
meore nawili garkveul sakonser-
vacio samuSaoebs saWiroebs, mesame
kategoriis masala ki gadaudebel
Carevas iTxovs.
_ rogorc cnobilia Tqveni mama
cnobili gamomcemelia, xolo Zma
saqarTvelos elCi safrangeTSi.
gTxovT gviamboT maT Sesaxeb.
_ mamaCemi - kaxmeg kudava profe-
siiT fizikosia. maxsovs, bavSvobaSi
xSirad mamaragebda Tavisi wignebiTa
da statiebiT. me misi mTavari bibli-
ografi viyavi da sagangebod vina-
xavdi yvela gamocemas, romelic ma-
maCemis saxels ukavSirdeboda. ro-
gorc Cans, es kidev ufro uZliereb-
da imeds, rom mis profesias avirCe-
vdi. Tavis erT-erT wignze aseTi ram
wamiwera: `buba kudavas - am wignis
momaval Tanaavtors~. vaJebis moma-
valic ase warmoidgina: erTi Svili
- fizikosi, meore - maTematikosi.
1980-iani wlebis bolos mamaCemi
erT-erTi Jurnalis (`fizika da ma-
Tematika skolaSi~) redaqtorad da-
niSnes. amis Semdeg kidev ufro ax-
los gaicno sagamomcemlo saqme. mog-
vianebiT, roca saqarTveloSi saxe-
lmwifo gamomcemlobebis ngrevisa da
kerZo gamomcemlobebis Senebis pro-
cesi daiwyo, mamaCemma ufro serio-
zulad mihyo xeli am saqmis ganviTa-
rebas. dRes is gamomcemloba `inte-
leqts~ xelmZRvanelobs. sagamom-
cemlo saqmes mec maziara da mogvi-
anebiT Jurnal `artanujis~ bazaze
amave saxelwodebis gamomcemloba
davafuZne. dRes gamomcemloba `ar-
tanujs~ Cemi da - maia kudava uZRveba.
me rogori fizikosi gamovedi, ukve
mogaxseneT. Cemi Zma - mamuka kudava
ki gaxda profesiiT maTematikosi,
magram verc man ausrula mamas ocneba
- saxelmwifo samsaxurSi Cadga da
di plomatiur gzas gahyva. maxsovs,
Zalian niWieri iyo. magaliTad, wera-
kiTxva jer ar icoda da samniSna
ricxvebis Sekreba-gamoklebis erTd-
roulad ramdenime operacias zepi-
rad akeTebda. CvenTan mosuli stu-
mrebi Zalze xalisobdnen amiT da
mamukac patiosnad asrulebda maT
dakveTebs. studentobisas ki, hamakSi
wamowolili, yovelgvari kalmisa da
furclis gareSe, formulebiT gada-
Wedil umaRlesi maTematikis saxel-
mZRvaneloebs ise swavlobda, TiTqos
mxatvruli literaturiT iqcevso
Tavs.
Zalian kargad TamaSobda fexbur-
Ts. erTxel mamaCemi misma mwvrTne-
lma daibara. mama mTeli saRamos man-
Zilze cdilobda gamoetexa Cemi Zma -
ra Caidine aseTio. araferi damiSa-
vebiao, uSedegod irwmuneboda mamuka.
meore dRes sawvrTnel bazaze misul
mamaCems mwvrTnelma Txova - Zalian
didi safexburTo momavali aqvso da
mixedeo. mokled, Cemi Zma yvelaferSi
mjobda. erTaderTi, rac masze ukeT
gamomdioda, es di plomatia da ada-
mianebTan urTierToba iyo. sul es
maxsendeba, roca Cem Zmaze meubnebian,
kargi di plomatiao.
_ xom arafers gegmavT amerikis
SeerTebul StatebSi?
_ amerikis SeerTebul StatebSi
arsebuli samecniero-kvleviTi cent-
rebi da muzeumebi, CvenTvis, upirve-
les yovlisa, xelnaweri memkvidre-
obis nimuSTa dacvis, restavraciis,
eqsponirebis, digitalizaciisa da
monacemTa bazebis Seqmnis sferoSi
gamocdilebis miRebis saSualebaa.
vcdilobT aRniSnuli resursi maqsi-
malurad gamoviyenoT.
erTi sasiamovno siax-
lec minda vamcno Tqveni
gazeTis mkiTxvelebs: wels
amerikidan saqarTveloSi
Camova da xelnawerTa ero-
vnul centrSi daidebs
binas amerikaSi moRvawe cn-
obili qarTveli mecnieris,
aw gansvenebuli vaxtang
jobaZis umdidresi piradi
arqivi da biblioTeka.
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wbcvfh afyxdb't
ufvjwfyt,b ktmct,b
deda ena uxelod wnuli saceri erTi saxis simdidrea,
maRla kuTxeSi hkidia, mas xeli ar ekideba,
wbcvfh afyxdb't
sxvisTvis maxea, patronis arc warTmeva SeiZleba
mZime aris is simarTle gasamxeli, derefani da xidia. da arc fuliT iyideba,
roca warsuls, Zvel cxovrebas modevs /obobas qseli/
moxuci Tu axalgazrda Sehyureben maRla
igi, am simdidriT idideba. Rrublebs,
sveticxovels rom atyvia kacis xeli, erT fexze Sekuntulia, /codna/ ukvirs zazas, ukvirs
is boroti Zmisgan aris mokveTili. qudi hxuravs Tavze, lelas,
Sen Tu ici, sad marxia qristes kvarTi tyeSi uTvalavs Sexvdebi, gadavabrune, Sevxede: ase kargad netav caze,
rwmenis gamo qalis xelSi CabRujuli, ufro - nawvimarze. qvaia, aba, raia? vin daxata cisartyela?
codva Zmis wil kidev ufro mZime aris, /soko/ ver miswvdeba mxatvris
zeviT davdevi, kvercxsa
roca igi mtrobiT aris garujuli. funji,
debs:
Sen Tu ici, ras hyvebian Carglis mTebi, usulo vnaxe orsuli, verc mama da verc mamida,
qaTamia, Tu raia?
vaJas leqsiT siamayiT momzirali, sulierisa mSobeli, an sad hqonda vinmes kibe,
gareT gavuSvi, balaxs ase maRla rom avida?
an qarTulad ras Srialebs orbis frTebi Svilsa Sobs, deda Zovs:
mokvdeba, _ modi dedas SevekiTxoT,
da tirifi maradJamis momtirali. Zroxaa, aba, raia?
vin aris gamomcnobeli? mogviyveba mxatvris ambavs,
Seni modgma vis modgmas da jilags mohyva,
/kvercxi/ /ku/ ici, zaza, is biZia
ras mogZaxis miwiTagan papis Zvlebi, TviTmfrinavze ijda albaT.
ras mogitans Ralati da sulis lpoba
da xis guliT nakeTebi savarZlebi.
rom icode, ra warsuli dagvrCa ukan akakanda varikela,
safrTxes rogor Seuqmnidi enas qarTuls, fylfpf ht ct,b gaaCumo Znelia,
ra mogarCens, ra giSvelis rogor vwuxar kvercxebs iseT adgilas
sibinZuris morevSi da bnelSi Cafluls. debs
Cemi ena sulSi ise Camikvria, ,,, ,,, Zneli sapovnelia.
rogorc madli da uryevi uflis rwmena,
`iavnanis~ pirvelsawyiss deda hqvia 1 s 9Z iyo.
daikarga erT dRes sadRac,
Zebnes kibiT kibemdis,
ver i poves, amitomac
Seni modgmis pirvelsawyiss `deda ena.~
gadawyvites imedi.
, magram daxeT saocreba,
kf,bhbysb aRdgomasac ao.
bebiam gaixara,
ocdaori wiwila
mzeze gamoiyvana.
uxariaT anas, rusos,
iac mReris `alaTasa~
x _ `gazafxulze mogvarTmeven
ke . kvercxiT savse kalaTasa~.

ar Cerdeba gakveTilze

fy,smt,f
]fyceq xfhrdbfyb erTi wamiT gogi,
jer xatia gaabraza,
uni xar, mere pedagogi.
mSoblebi rom
rusTavelis
daubares,
ani xar Tu suli xar da Tavi moisawyla:
bani xar, Tu WavWavaZis _ dedaCemi muSaobso,
gani xar Tu suli xar. ar scalia mamas, _
doni xar, moswavleebs sicilisgan
Cemi Walis faro Cemo, daeberaT ybebia,
bulbuli da skolaSi rom moiyvana
qnaro Cemo,
oTxmoci wlis bebia.
Cemi iadoni xar. Rani xar Tu
yani xar,
eni xar Tu pawawina virs melia
vini xar Tu qarTveliviT daemgzavra,
zani xar Tu xelSi asayvani xar. uyurebda
daexmare bayays Tani xar, mxrebze,
miwvdes mwerebs... Cemi mze da Sin Semodi ufvjwfyt,b
Zlivs mihqonda
virs sapalne,
Cemi mTvare, Cino Tvalis, miiTrevda fexebs.
Cemi natvris Tvali cani xar da _ razed iklav Tavs
mfhsekb fylfpt,b xar. Zili xar,
rom gaWamon Tiva?
sabralo,
Cveni fesvis,
ini xar Tu Cveni gvaris, arc tvirTs vaTrev, arc
armad naSovni - armad waxdebao. viRlebi,
bers beroba SeSvenis da ers eroba. kani xar Tu uZvelesi Ziri xar.
magram ara mSiva.
did xes didi nafoti dascvivao. lasi xar Tu
SeubRvira virukelam
erTi mgeli kvdeba, magram sxva aTasi lekvi mani xar, wili xar da upasuxa myisve:
rCeba. weliwadis Wani
Wani, _ rom i parav, erT
vaJkaci sadac Sercxveba, misi samarec iq aris. pirveli Tve - xani
xani, dRes, kargo,
vinc qars sTesavs, is qariSxals moimkiso. Cemi ianvari xar. jani xar da mogigrexen
kisers.
visic ena Wartalio, imis sityva marTalio. hae xar,
Tu TvaliT ver dainaxo, yuriT gagonils nu nari xar Tu kurTxeul da
dasdevo. oni xar Tu sakvirveli, sacodavi Zlivs sWams
is ujobs mamulsa, Svili rom sjobdes mamasa. pari xar Tu macxovrisa saWmels
nu geSinia sikvdilisa, geSinodes sircxvilisa. Jani xar, arve xar. daexura yuria,
mters gobiT uboZe da moyvares kovziT. Cemi mosavlis moyvrisaTvis veZaxiT da ar gvagonebs,
ofofs TaviT icnoben, karg saqmes boloTio. Jami xar da dilis mze xar, dagviberda muria.
patiosneba uenod laparakobso. Cemi winsvlis Tvalebs ZlivsRa
mtrisTvis atrialebs,
pirveli naxva cnobaa, meore naxva - Zmobaa. Jami xar. Savi Rame xar, Camodna da gaxda,
pirSi maqebeli, eSmakis mociqulia.
saqarTvelos gadvuxadeT
saoxreze naSovni satialoze daixarjao. rae xar Tu gaumarjos, _ iubile
sizarmace siRaribis gasaRebiao. sani xar Tu natyviars da TxuTmeti wlis
Wkvianisagan Zageba gijobs sulelis qebasa.
tari xar Tu namexars! gaxda.
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interviu muzeumi gaxdeba arama- anisas siyvarulSi ga- rqiT, romelic ubiwo- xa; vaJa-fSavelas Coxis
saqarTvelos rto qarTvelebis, ara- moutyda. oldenburge- ebisa da sulieri siw- masrebi; moskovSi kote
med msoflios erT-er- lis mxurvale grZnobam mindis simbolod iTv- marjaniSvilis mier da-
Teatris, agrafinas qmaric daavi- leboda. arsebuli ,,Tavisufali
musikis, kinosa Ti saukeTeso kultu-
ruli centri. gTxovT wya da movaleobac. Sey- sasaxlis pirveladi Teatris~ farda; ro-
da qoreografiis gviamboT muzeumis wa- varebulebma quTaisi da- saxe garedan mTlianad melic muzeumis erT-
saxelmwifo rsulze, dRevandelo- toves da sacxovreblad SenarCunebulia. rac erTi pirveli eqspona-
muzeumis baze da momaval gegm- TbilisSi gadmovidnen. Seexeba SigniTa nawils, tia. farda mravali
ebze princma satrfos axlad- igi sakmaod Secvlilia. wlis ganmavlobaSi da-
direqtorTan kargulad iTvleboda,
giorgi magram 1930 wels is
kalandiasTan `dRes sasaxle Tavisi moskovis erT-erT Teat-
ralur sardafSi aRmoa-
mcxovrebi bevri qa- Cines da muzeums gadas-
rTveli, gaigo maTi
cxovrebis, saqmia- eqsponatebis simdidriT ces.
muzeumma bolo erTi
nobis, sixarulisa wlis ganmavlobaSi
da gulistkivilis
Sesaxeb. TurqeTis msoflio mniSvnelobis 10-mde saintereso gamo-
fena gamarTa. damTvali-
qarTvels ki isto- ereblebis raodenobas
_ batono giorgi, qa-
riuli samSoblo
daubruna, saqarTvel- muzeumebs utoldeba...~ ar vuCiviT, rac ukeTesi
momavlis imeds gvaZ-
rTulma sazogadoebam oze leqsi daawerina, levs. wels saqarTve-
gagicnoT Zalze axal- simRera amRera, filmi _ sasaxle, romel- nayid miwaze ulamazesi gadmocemiT, sasaxlis los kulturis minist-
gazrdul asakSi Cvene- gadaaRebina da moqala- Sic saqarTvelos Teat- sasaxle auSena. mogvia- gaxsnisas gamarTul me- ris, batoni nikoloz
burebze SesaniSnavi do- qeobac ki miaRebina. ris, musikis kinosa da nebiT swored am sasax- jlisze miwveuli stum- ruruas patronaJiT da
kumenturi filmebiT; pirvelad gavigoneT ra qoreografiis saxelm- leSi cxovrobda sameg- rebi aRfrTovanebas ver q. Tbilisis meris, ba-
aqvT saTqmeli axali wifo muzeumia ganTav- relos ufliswuli and- malavdnen. sasaxleSi toni gigi ugulavas da-
amave periods daemTxva
Taobis fereidnelebs sebuli, 1895 welsaa aSe- ria dadiani, msoflioSi Sesvlisas iseTi STabeW- xmarebiT iwyeba Senobis
mravali qarTveli qarTvelebisadmi. nebuli. igi mtkvris mar- cnobil moWadrake, eka- dileba iqmneboda, TiT- sruli reabilitacia,
emigrantis gadmosvla kidev erTxel gavix- cxena sanapiroze Tbili- terine WavWavaZisa da qos wyalSi Sediodnen.
amerikis SeerTebul rac miznad isaxavs misi
seneT istoriuli sa- sis, erT-erT Zvel uban- daviT dadianis umcros es imitom, rom iataki mT- fasadis SekeTebas, saZi-
StatebSi da amitom qarTvelo, tao, klar- Si, mdebareobs da arqi- vaJi. Semdeg ki aq damk- lianad brolis iyo, rkvlis gamagrebas da
Cveni mkiTxvelisaTvis jeTi, SavSeTi, maWaxe- teqtor pol Sternis vidrda andrias dis, sa- masze areklili sinaT- axali saeqspozicio da-
sainteresoa da saWiroa la... gavixseneT qeTevan mieraa daproeqtebuli. lome dadianis meuRle, le ki iatakze ise daliv- rbazebis gaxsnas. ase
ufro axlos gagicnoT. dedofali, mis kvalda- Tumca Senoba Semdgom- princ aSil miurati livebda, rogorc zRvis rom, sul male xelov-
gTxovT gviamboT kval moviareT saqarT- Sic araerTxel gada- Sterni im drois erT- talRebze Camavali mzis nebis sasaxle Zvel xib-
Tqvens da Tqveni doku- velo, irani, indoeTi, keTda. XIX saukunis erTi yvelaze saxelgan- mewamuli sxivebi. dros- lsa da axal sicocx-
menturi filmebis Se- portugalia... gavixseneT 60-ian wlebSi es adgili Tqmuli arqiteqtori Tan erTad sasaxlis les daibrunebs
saxeb: petriwonis monastris baRis (SemdgomSi _ pi- iyo. sasaxlis stili, mdgomareobac Seicvala, _ xom ar gegmavT ra-
_ `Cveneburebi~ warma- aRmSenebeli taoeli rogovis) quCad iwode- erTi mxriv, `aguris go- bolSevikuri wyobis ime saxis RonisZiebas
tebuli gadacema rom Zmebi, Si pkis memorialu- boda. es saxeli quCis Tikas~ enaTesaveba, xo- dros Senoba daarbies amerikis SeerTebul
gamosuliyo, sami ram ri taZris kedlebze oq- orive mxares germaneli lo meores mxriv, did da gaZarcves kidec. Sem- StatebSi?
aRmoCnda saWiro: isto- roTi amoWrili qarT- kolonizatorebis mier adgils uTmobs isla- degSi aq yru-munjTa sa- _ 1-dan 21 aprilis
riis codna, Jurnalis- vel meomarTa saxelebi... baRnaris gaSenebasTan muri arqiteqturisaTvis swavlebeli gaixsna. rac CaTvliT me, rogorc
turi gamocdileba da im `siyvaruls vug- iyo dakavSirebuli, ro- damaxasiaTebel deta- Seexeba muzeums, am Se- muzeumis direqtorma,
xalxis siyvaruli, ro- zavni saqarTvelos. mwa- mlis teritoriis didi lebs: cixe-darbazis nobaSi 1929 wlidan fun- monawileoba miviRe ame-
melTac odesRac, nebiT red gviyvars. gvenatreba nawili avstriis impe- ti pis nagebobas aqvs Ria qcionirebs. dRes sasax- rikis SeerTebuli Sta-
Tu uneblieT, datoves _ ki, iq CevideT, vinme riis qveSevrdoms, terasa, qvis moajiriani le Tavisi mniSvnelobiT tebis saerTaSoriso
samSoblo, sxva qveynis devinaxoT, ver Cavsul- franc titels ekuTvno- kibe, Sua bastioni azid- mTel kavkasiaSi erTa- ganviTarebis saagentos
Svilebi gaxdnen, mas Se- varT _ ki sayvarel sa- da. mis qaliSvils, emi- uli cicabo saxuraviT derTia, Tavisi eqspona- (USAID) ekonomikuri zr-
swires Zala, energia da qarTveloSi. tebis simdidriT dis, soflis meurneo-
sicocxle, magram mainc rogorc ki msoflio bisa da vaWrobis sagan-
qarTvelebad Caewernen saqarTveloSi mniSvnelobis mu- manaTleblo ofisis mi-
istoriaSi. qarTvelia, Cven ase zeumebs utoldeba. er momzadebul sazoga-
im studiaSi, sadac qarTvelebi varT. aq sxvadasxva doebrivi kavSirebis
axla `Cveneburebi~ Zma, rogor umdidresi fon- stumarTa gacvliT pro-
mzaddeba, oTaxSi ruka xarT? sul Tqvenze debia warmodgeni- gramaSi. programa miz-
hkidia, romelzec gada- vfiqrob. sul li, rogoricaa nad isaxavda qarTuli
cemis SemoqmedebiTi saqarTvelosTvis saxviTi xe- delegaciis wevrebisa-
jgufis wevrebs wiTeli Sewuxebuli var. lovnebis, biblio- Tvis filmebis arqivi-
WikartebiT is wertile- marto RmerTs Tekisa da rebis procesis gacno-
bi gvaqvs moniSnuli, vexvewebi, rom rariterul gamo- bas. delegaciis wevrebs
sadac qarTvelTa kvali gaumarjos saqarT- cemaTa, gramfi- saSualeba mogveca gav-
gveguleba, lurjad ki velos, Tu rfitebisa da cnobodiT amerikis Se-
is adgilebi, romelic dagWirdiT, iqa fono-audio, erTebuli Statebis wam-
ukve moviareT da firze var. momikiTxe Cemi foto, saafiSo da yvani arqivebis, muzeume-
aRvbeWdeT. rukaze jer- patara samSoblo. a.S. muzeumSi bisa da kinostudiebis
jerobiT wiTeli feri saqarTvelo warmodgenili uaxles teqnologiebs.
sWarbobs, Tumca yvelas, kargad minda iyos! fondebi 300 aTas davaTvaliereT pol
vinc am gadacemis erT- saRamo rom eqsponats moicavs geitsis centri da vila,
guli mayurebeli varT, gaxdeba da saxlSi da maTi raodenoba Academy of Motion Picture
imedi gvaqvs, erT mSve- dasaZineblad kidev izrdeba. Sciences, Chace Film Cen-
nier dRes, ruka lurji movemzadebiT, mama muzeumis eqspo- ter, PRO-TEK, The Paley
feris WikartebiT daifa- feriani sizmrebis nax- lias am quCaze, 1895 we- da samsarTuliani koSki natebidan yvelaze Centre of Media, University
reba. vas gvisurvebs. ferian ls arqiteqtor pol saidumlo oTaxiT; mTa- Zveli, vanis arqeolo- of Southern California,
yvelaferi Zalian sizmrebSi saqarTvelos SternisaTvis sasaxlis var fasadze Tavmoy- giuri gaTxrebis dros Fashion institute of design
martivad, erTi siuJetis vnaxulobT xolme.~ mSenebloba SeukveTia. rili Seisruli TaRebi, (1941 weli) aRmoCenili and Merchandising, The
gadaRebiT daiwyes. 2005 ase gulRiad gvesa- proeqtma dasrulebamde kedelSi Casmuli vardu- antikuri niRabia, rome- UCLA Film and Television
wlis zamTarSi la- ubrebian Cveneburi qar- saxecvlileba ganicada, lebi, moajiris wvrili lic Zv.w.aR-is me-2 aTas- Archive da sxva.
zeTSi makrialis taZris Tvelebi maT gasacnobad radgan mSeneblobis svetebi goTuri stili- wleuliT TariRdeba. an- aRniSnuli programa
gadasaRebad wavediT. Casul gadamRebi jgufis procesSi nageboba ger- zaciis uCveulo da sain- tikuri niRabi muzeums ormagad sasargeblo
lazebTan gulTbilma wevrebs. dardsac da manelma princma kon- tereso nimuSs qmnis. Se- 1945 wels gadaeca. iyo saqarTvelos Teat-
Sexvedram, maTTan sau- sixarulsac gviziare- stantine petres Ze ol- nobas, romelic or na- muzeumSi iseTi niv- ris, musikis, kinosa da
barma, maTi enis mosme- ben, ojaxs, lukmas gvi- denburgelma (1850-1906) wilad iyofa, 1900-ian Tebi inaxeba, rogoricaa: qoreografiis saxelm-
nam, maTi tradiciebis nawileben. mokled, ar erTi qarTveli mandi- wlebSi samxreTiT ram- sergo zaqariaZis saT- wifo muzeumisaTvis, ra-
gacnobam sabolood ga- iSureben arafers! al- losnisaTvis, agrafina denime oTaxi miaSenes. vale filmidan `jaris-
dgan vizitisas saSual-
damawyvetina jer Tur- baT aseTi siTbo, siyva- jafariZe-dadianisaTvis, XX-saukunis 40-ian kacis mama~; cnobili mom-
ruli da ndoba rom moi- Seisyida. es qalbatoni wlebSi ki, stalinizmis Rerlis sandro inaSv- eba mogveca, davkvirv-
qeTSi mcxovrebi qarT- ebodiT xelovnebis TiT-
velebis Sesaxeb momem- povo, amaze didi bedni- 1882 wels ruseTis impe- epoqaSi, sabWoTa arqi- ilis toreadoris kos-
ereba araferia. ratoris naTesavma, war- teqtorebis mier Senobis tumi speqtaklidan `kar- qmis yvela dargis mem-
zadebina filmebi da Se-
_ Tqven axlaxan moSobiT germanelma k. gagrZelebad samsarTu- meni~, romelic sagan- kvidreobis dacvis pro-
mdeg mTel msoflioSi
dainiSneT saqarTvelos oldenburgelma q. quTa- liani nageboba daidga, gebod milanSi daumzad- cess (kino, musika, Te-
meZeba qarTvelTa kvali.
gadamRebma jgufma Teatris, musikis, kin- isSi gaicno. igi am romelic gare fasadze ebiaT; Salva dadianis atri, qoreografia).
uamravi qveyana moiara, osa da qoreografiis droisaTvis samegre- zustad imeorebs isto- saweri magida da skami, aseve saSualeba gv-
yvelgan winaparTa kva- saxelmwifo muzeumis los Tavadis tariel riuli sasaxlis mxatv- aseve misi xmali; di- qonda dagvemyarebina sa-
lis aRsabeWdad viyaviT direqtorad. rac es mu- dadianis meuRle iyo. rul iersaxes. calke mitri arayiSvili oqros Wiro profesiuli kon-
wasuli _ TurqeTi, ira- zeumi arsebobs, albaT princi imdenad moixib- aRniSvnis Rirsia mTavar saaTi zaqaria faliaSv- taqtebi. amitom imedi
ni, egvi pte, indoeTi, 30-40 weliwadia. arc la am qalbatonis mSve- bastionze gamosaxuli ilis daisidan; nino ra- maqvs uaxloes momava-
potugalia, bulgareTi... aravin icoda, vin iyo nierebiT, rom misi oja- gerbi, sadac farze mi- miSvilis saxelobis qa- lSi amerikaSi mcxov-
vamayob, rom swored muzeumis direqtori, an xuri mdgomareoba da Tiuri cxoveli monoc- rTuli nacionaluri ba- rebi qarTvelebi Cveni
am gadacemis eqspedicie- ras saqmianobdnen da an XIX saukuneSi saqarT- erozia gamoqandakeb- letis saxelmwifo aka- muzeumidan Zalian sain-
biT wyalobiT xSir Sem- saerTod, sad arsebobda velosa da evropaSi uli. esaa Zvel saberZ- demiuri dasis kostu- tereso gamofenebs ixi-
TxvevaSi aqaurma iqau- fizikurad. pirveli mo- damkvidrebuli tradi- neTsa da romSi realur mebi; cnobili qarTveli laven.
ris saxeli gaigo, pira- nacemebi aris da Cven ciebi arad Caagdo da ag- cxovelad miCneuli Te- mocekvavis, fridon su-
ukve vgrZnobT, rom es rafinas jafariZe-dadi- Tri cxeni Sublze didi laberiZis aWaruli Co- intervius uZRveboda
dad gaicno TurqeTSi mixeil mumlaZe
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simboluri TariRebis bedi postsabWoTa saqarTveloSi:

26 maisi, 14 aprili, 9 aprili
ramdenjer dakarga sa-
qarTvelom damoukidebloba
da ramdenjer aRidgina?
pativcemuli mkiTxveli
dameTanxmeba: ramdenjerme!
boloswina TariRi 1918
wlis 26 maisia, bolo ki -
1991 wlis 9 aprili.
swored 1991 wlis 9 ap-
rilis `saqarTvelos damou-
kideblobis aRdgenis aqtis~
safuZvelze gvcno msofliom
rogorc Tanamedrove saxelm-
wifo; am aqtis safuZveli iyo
1991 wlis 31 martis sayo-
velTao saxalxo referen-
dumi, romelSic monawileoba
miiRo Cveni qveynis moqala-
qeTa udidesma nawilma (maT
Soris eTnikurma afxazebma da
osebma).
am fonze rogorc damou-
kideblobis dRes ratom ar
vzeimobT 9 aprils?
ratomaa dRemde saqar-
Tvelos damoukideblobis
dRe 26 maisi?
cnobisTvis: 1918 wlis 26
maiss maSindelma qarTulma
xelisuflebam erTi `mcire~
Secdoma dauSva: b-ni noe
Jordanias mTavrobam gamoac-
xada ara `damoukideblobis
aRdgena~, aramed - `damouki-
debloba~.
arada, 1918 wlamde Cven
2000-wlovani saxelmwifoeb-
rioba gvqonda.
26 maisi lamazi istori-
uli TariRia, magram Tana-
medrove saqarTvelom damo-
ukideblobis aRdgenis dRed
9 aprili unda izeimos,
xolo Tuki saqarTvelos
saxelmwifos dafuZnebis dRe
unda gamovacxadoT damouki-
deblobis dRed, aseTi Ta-
riRi unda moviZioT farnavaz
mefisa da quji erisTavis
periodSi (metic, aietisa da
afsirtes droSi!).
aqve davZen:
1989 wlis 9 aprili ruse-
Tis imperiasTan zneobriv da
politikur brZolaSi gamar-
jvebis dRea. me, rogorc am
movlenis uSualo monawile
vambob:
maSin Cven yvelam, vinc iq
videqiT, vicodiT, rom Cveni
sisxli daiRvreboda; amis
Sesaxeb saqarTvelos kaTo-
likos-patriarqma ilia meo-
rem, Cveni eris sulierma wi-
namZRolmac gagvafrTxila,
magram Cven, am gmiruli
aqciis rigiTma monawile-
ebma, erovnuli moZraobis li-
derebma da Tavad uwmindesma
da unetaresma, mters zurgi
ar SevaqcieT: madloba
vuTxariT eris mamas Cveni
gafrTxilebisTvis da bo-
lomde aRudeqiT win boro-
tebis imperias; saqarTvelos
kaTolikos-patriarqic Cven-
Tan erTad darCa!
swored am winaaRmdegobam
daasusta da nawilobriv da-
Sala ruseTis sabWoTa impe-
ria. erisa da beris am wina-
aRmdegobam Sva saukunovani
dukumenti - 1991 wlis 9 apri-
lis saqarTvelos damo-
ukideblobis aRdgenis aqti.
saqarTvelom Tavisi saxe-
lmwifoebrivi damoukideblo-
bis aRdgenis dRe 9 aprils
unda izeimos; rac Seexeba
saqarTvelos saxelmwifoeb-
riobis dafuZnebis dRes: es
didebuli dRe Zv. w. aR-is II-
I aTaswleulebSi unda veZi-
oT. es dRe ar aris 26 maisi.
rac Seexeba 14 aprils:
1978 wlis 14 aprils Cven
davicaviT saqarTvelos
saxelmwifo enis statusi.
Sesabamisad, 14 aprili
oficialurad unda gamoc-
xaddes saqarTvelos saxel-
mwifo enis dRed da es dRe
unda izeimos saqarTvelos
yvela moqalaqem ganurCev-
lad eTnikuri warmomavlo-
bisa!
14 aprili ar aris mxo-
lod qarTvelTa dedaenis
dRe.
cnobisTvis:
saukuneebis win damkvid-
rebuli tradiciis mixedviT,
romelic 1985 wels aRadgina
sruliad saqarTvelos kaTo-
likos-patriarqma ilia meo-
rem, qarTvelTa dedaenis dRe
aris lazares SabaTi - bzo-
bis wina SabaTi. am dRes 10
saukunis winac aRniSnavdnen
qarTvelebi da sauflo da
did saeklesio dResaswaule-
bSi CarTuli hqondaT: `qebai
da didebai qarTulisa eni-
sai~ (misi avtori ucnobia;
SemorCenili 4 xelnaweridan
3 gadawerilia liturgikuli
krebulebis cnobili Semmos-
velisa da redaqtoris -
iovane zosimes - mier).
daskvnis nacvlad:
SemTxveviT araferi xde-
ba: simboluri TariRebis ar-
sis Secvla mosaxleobis de-
zorientaciasa da saxelmwi-
foebrivi orientirebis gabun-
dovnebas emsaxureba.
tariel futkaraZe
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ra akldamebi aRmoaCines saqarTvelos teritoriaze da

_ saqarTvelos terito-
riaze bevri akldamaa aRmoC-
enili. maT Sorisaa kramit-

romeli unikaluri arqeologuri nivTi daikarga moskovSi

_ batono anzor, dRe-
sdReobiT Tu atarebT
arqeologiur gaTx-
rebs?
_ q. Tbilisis apolon qu-
TaTelaZis saxelobis samxat-
vro akademiaSi vkiTxulob
arqeologiis kurss. parale-
lurad var, egreT wodebuli,
didi mcxeTis saxelmwifo ar-
qeologiuri muzeum-nakrZa-
lis restavraciis mimarTu-
lebis xelmZRvaneli, amasTan,
monawileobas viReb saqarT-
velos teritoriaze mimdi-
nare arqeologiur gaTxreb-
Sic. erT-erTi gaTxrebis
dros erT akldamaSi aRmo-
vaCine ori santimetri sigrZis
patara weraqvi.
_ ras niSnavs arqeo-
logiuri muzeumis res-
tavratori, ra funqcia
gekisrebaT?
_ arqeologiuri gaTxre-
bis dros aRmoCenili niv-
samarxebi, fila qvebisgan
gakeTebuli samarxebi, ormo-
samarxebi, qvevriseburebi,
ojaxuri akldamebi da ase
Semdeg. maTi ricxvi, daax-
namentebiT Semkuli culia. loebiT, 3 aTasia, SeiZleba,
culs yvelaze saintereso is
saqarTvelo uZvelesi kulturis mqone metic. mxolod samTavros
elementi aqvs, rom masze
qveyanaa, amis maniSnebelia uamravi kulturul- velze, daaxloebiT, 50-mde
aris xaxadaRebuli ZaRlis
istoriuli Zegli. Cveni eris simdidre mis akldama gvaqvs aRmoCenili.
patara qandakebac. qarTveli
warsulSi poulobs saTaveebs da amaSi ara- _ arqeologebs rame
arqeologebis mier es culi
nakleb mniSvnelovan rols arqeologia Ta- tradicia Tu aqvT gaT-
msoflio Sedevradaa aRia-
maSobs. saqarTvelos teritoriaze uamravi rebuli, is Zv. w. aR-is me-8- xrebis dros?
uZvelesi nivTia aRmoCenili, romlebic Zveli me-7 saukuneebiT TariRdeba. _ Cveni cnobili arqeol-
welTaRricxvis saukuneebiTac TariRdeba. _ rogor SearCieT ogi, batoni sandro kalan-
batoni anzor sixaruliZe 71 wels gada- Tqvens profesiad arqe- daZe samarxis aRmoCenis
cilebuli arqeologia, romelsac uyvars Ta- ologia da ase Zalian dros, sanam preparacias (gaT-
visi saqmianoba da udidesi wvlili aqvs ram SegayvaraT? xras) SevudgebodiT, ityoda
Setanili qarTul arqeologiaSi. baton an- _ istoriis fakultetze xolme: Rvino moitaneT, mic-
zors saxlSi Zveli, antikvaruli nivTebis 1959 wels Sevedi. warmoSobiT valebulis xsovnisa unda
ulamazesi, patara koleqcia aqvs, romelTa guruli var da rodesac vTqvaT jero. am proceduris
yalibebic (aslebi) mas ekuTvnis. Coxatauris raionis bukisci- gareSe arc erTi samarxi ar
xeSi Cavedi, Cemma mezobelma gaTxrila.
gurulebma ase Tqves: anzori _ gurulebis winaswa-
Zeli am dakarguli culis as- oqros maZieblad mowyobila,
Tebis umravlesoba, samwu- rmetyveleba xom ar
lis Seqmna da es Zalian albaT, Tamar mefis safla-
xarod, dazianebulia siZve- gamarTlebula?
meamayeba. vsac i poviso. (icinis) aseTi
lis gamo. me am dazianebul _ biWvinTis gaTxrebis
_ rogor moaxerxeT xumara xalxi varT, sxvaTa
nivTebs liTonis, keramikis dros Cven aRmovaCineT naqa-
dakarguli nivTis aRd- Soris, Cven, gurulebi. Cemi
an Zvlisac rom iyos, aRvad- gena? albaT, Zalian laqari da iqve iyo sama-
gen xolme. profesia Zalian miyvars, ar rovanic (anu sasaflao). gag-
rTuli iyo. vici, ratom.
_ romeli iyo is uZve- _ sabednierod, arsebobda viTxria qurebi, mozaikuri ia-
lesi nivTi, romelsac _ ra aRmoaCineT yve- takebi, monetebi da ase Semdeg.
am culis fotosuraTi, aseve, laze saintereso ar-
Tqven restavrireba ga- arsebobs naSromi, romelSic me aRmovaCine 150-mde bajaR-
ukeTeT? qeologiuri gaTxrebis los oqrosTumniani moneta.
zustad aris miTiTebuli am Sedegad?
_ saqarTveloSi aRmoaCi- culis zomebi. amierkavka- sxvaTaSoris, gamaxsenda
nes unikaluri culi, romlis _ samwuxarod, ase konk-
siuri culi TariRdeba gvian gurulebis `winaswarmetyve-
badalic msoflioSi ar aris. retulad ver gi pasuxebT, yve-
brinjaos, anu adre rkinis leba~, magram Tamar mefis saf-
es culi, samwuxarod, 1987 laferi Taviseburad sainte-
xanis droindelad. aseTi sa- lavi ar aRmomiCenia. (icinis)
wels ruseTSi `ve de en xas~ resoa. mcxeTis teritoriaze
xis culi msoflioSi ar ar- biWvinTis gaTxrebis dros
gamofenaze daikarga. SesaZ- gaTxrili gvaqvs qvevrise-
sebobs. iSviaT egzemplarad buri akldamebi. maT qvevris movxvdi iseT cnobil arqeo-
loa, viRacam moi para. am cu- es culi imitom aris cno- logebTan, rogorebic arian:
lis unikaluroba imaSi mdgo- forma aqvT. rom warmoid-
bili, rom arqeologiuri ginoT 200-litriani qvevri da giorgi dundua, batoni and-
mareobs, rom is sxva aRmo- gaTxrebis Sedegad napovn ro, oTar lorTqifaniZe, vax-
Cenili culebisgan didad SigniT moTavsebuli adamiani,
culebSi iSviaTobaa, culs romelsac xel-fexi mokeci- tang nikolaiSvili da sxva.
gansxvavdeba. misi dakargviT hqondes tari. am culs ki hqo- li aqvs. warmarTobis dros, rom ityvian, Zalian rixianad
qarTul arqeologias didi nda. mas piric da taric brin- Zvelad, ase marxavdnen, Tu- movxvdi arqeologTa samya-
zarali miadga. mTeli mso- jaosgan hqonda da monakve- rme. roSi.
flio adevnebs Tvalyurs am Tic ar hqonda darCenili or-
culis dakargvis ambavs. dRem- _ bevri akldama aris
namentebiT rom ar yofiliyo aRmoCenili saqarTve- natalia maxaraSvili,
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polonuri warmoSobis
konfliqtologi,
aleqsandre rusecki miiCnevs,
rom poloneTis prezidentis,
lex kaCinskis usafrTxoeba
saTanadod ar iyo daculi.
miuxedavad am didi tragediisa,
rusecki fiqrobs, rom
poloneTis xelisulebas
problema ar Seqmnia da
arc Seeqmneba, saqarTvelos
megobari qveynis sagareo kursi
da Rirebulebebi ar Seicvleba.
`droni. ji~: pirvel rigSi, sain-
teresoa Tqveni Sefaseba, es iyo
tragikuli SemTxveva Tu teroris-
tuli aqti?
aleqsandre rusecki: arsebobs
sxvadasxva versia, arsebobs hi po-
Teza, rom es katastrofa insceni-
rebuli iyo, aris versia, romelsac
moskovi avrcelebs, rom damnaSaveebi
arian poloneli mfrinavebi, aris
teqnikuri Secdomis versia, rom
araadekvaturad aisaxeboda dajdo-
mis procesSi miwasa da TviTmfrinavs
Soris manZili.
teraqtis Teoriulad, teqniku-
rad mowyoba SesaZlebelia, amis
Taobazec aris varaud gamoTqmuli.
erTia daamtkico, rom es xelovnu-
rad inscenirebul katastrofaa,
amave dros es ar niSnavs imas, rom
viRacas kategoriuli mtkicebiTi fo-
rmiT daabralo es danaSaul. aris
versia teqnikuri gaumarTaobis,
uamindobisa da mfrinavebis Secdo-
mis Sesaxebac da meorea insceni-
rebuli katastrofa, aris Suale-
duri versiebic...
_ gamoiTqva mosazreba, rom
rusma dispetCerebma dauSves Sec-
doma da arc imas gamoricxaven,
rom es Secdoma ki ara, dagegmili
iyo?
_ amboben, rom iq komunikaciis,
enis problema gaxldaT.
_ ki magram, imasac amboben, rom
mfrinavebma rusuli icodnen.
_ sxvadasxva urTierTgamomric-
xavi informacia vrceldeba, dRes
amas CemTvis gansakuTrebuli mniSvn-
eloba ara aqvs, faqtia, rom prezi-
denti kaCinski daiRupa da ara mxo-
lod prezidenti, aramed misi meuR-
le, poloneTis devnilobaSi myofi
prezidenti, ganadgurda poloneTis
politikuri elitis gansakuTrebu-
li nawili _ sasuliero pirebi, po-
litikosebi, sazogado moRvaweebi,
samxedro Tanamdebobis pirebi.
es aris Zalian didi tragedia.
poloneTis prezidenti da politik-
uri elita ar iyo saTanadod da-
culi im safrTxeebisagan, ramac
gamoiwvia maTi daRupva. usafrT-
xoebis sistema poloneTis prezi-
dentisa ar iyo saTanado doneze.
SesaZlebelia momxdariyo teroris-
tuli aqti, TviTmfrinavSi SesaZloa
raRaca CaedoT samaraSi, roca TviT-
mfrinavs aremontebdnen, nebismier
situaciaSi specsamsaxurebis valia
gaTvalon yvela safrTxe da xifaTi.
safrTxeebi iyo ugubelyofili. es
ar gamoricxavs imas, rom viRacam
isargebla amiT da moaxdina polo-
neTis elitis mniSvnelovani nawils
ganadgureba.
_ yvelaze metad romel mxares
an romeli saxelmwifos interese-
bSi SeiZleba yofiliyo poloneTis
prezidentis mkvleloba?
NHFUTLBF
_ katinis ambavi gavixsenoT,
1940 wels pirveli informacia
gavrcelda, rom es germanelebma
Caidines, mere aRmoCnda, rom es
sabWoTa Cekas gakeTebuli iyo.
ara var momxre, rom viCqaroT
da isedac sazogadoebaSi
rusofobiis done maRalia, pir-
dapir davadoT xeli putins da
medvedevs.
Tumca putini da medvedevi
damnaSaveebi arian imitom, rom
maspinZlobis elementaruli
norma iyo darRveuli, es igivea,
epatiJebi Sin stumars, Seni sax-
lis win ki gza moyinulia da ar
afrTxileb droulad, rom es
gza moyinulia. is adamiani iZu-
lebulia gza ganagrZos da safrT-
xeSi Caigdos Tavi. Secdomebi iyo
Tavad maspinZlebis mxridan. isini
amboben, rom sTavazoben sxvadasxva
aeroports dasajdoma.
pilotebma isedac icodnen
aeroportebi, sadac unda daS-
vebuliyvnen, Tu maT problema
SeeqmnebodaT. usafrTxoebis gana-
wesi amas gulisxmobs. ratom moxda
es saSineli katastrofa, imedia, amas
gamoZieba gaarkveva.
_ sagamoZiebo komisia ruseT-
Sic aris Seqmnili da poloneTSic.
magram mainc sainteresoa, rom kaCi-
nskis TviTmfrinavs _ tu 154-s adrec
hqonia incidentebi, magaliTad,
TbilisSi unda Cafreniliyo 2008
wlis agvistoSi da amis nacvlad
baqoSi Cafrinda?
_ gadawyvetilebas iRebda mfri-
navi da man gadawyvita, rom daSve-
buliyo baqoSi, radgan im viTa-
rebaSi TbilisSi mis TviTmfrinavis
daSveba ar iyo usafrTxo.
_ eloda kremli kaCinskis smo-
lenskSi Cafrenas?
_ me vfiqrob, rom es dagegmili
viziti iyo. prezidenti mofrinavda,
protokolebi arsebobs. sazRvars
ver gadakveTda amis gareSe.
_ prezidenti kaCinski msoflio
donis politikosi iyo da amave
dros gansakuTrebuli damokide-
buleba hqonda saqarTvelosadmi.
sainteresoa Tqveni mosazreba am
pirovnebis Sesaxeb...
_ lex kaCinski iyo poloneli
disidenti, princi puli adamiani, mi-
si daRupvac amasTan iyo dakav-
Sirebuli. mas surda, rom katinis
sakiTxi mieyvana bolomde. igi sxva
politikosebs ar endoboda, perso-
nalurad undoda am sakiTxis bo-
lomde miyvana. sabWoTa kavSiris mem-
kvidre saxelmwifos unda aeRo
Tavis Tavze pasuxismgebloba amaze.
unda ganecxadebina, rom es maTi
winamorbedi reJimis danaSaulia.
ratom iTrevda aqamd fexs putini
da ar aRiarebda stalinisa da berias
danaSauls, es gaurkvevelia. saubari
mxolod 40 aTasamde oficerze ar
aris, naxevar milionamde poloneli
iyo represirebuli, maT Soris Cemi
ojaxi stalinisa da berias reJimis
dros. Cemi ojaxis nawili yazaxeTSi
iyo gasaxlebuli. asiaTasobiT
adamiani daxvrites, katini aris
simbolo am tragediisa. poloneTis
didi teritoriebi SeuerTes sxva-
dasxva qveynebs da poloneTs kompe-
nsaciis mizniT SeuerTes germaniis
teritorebi. istoriuli samarT-
lianoba unda aRdgeniliyo, amas
cdilobda kaCinski.
_ putinis xelisufleba mosko-
vSi stalinis portretebs quCebSi
hfens da misi saxelis reabili-
tacias axdens. kaCinskis imedi hqon-
da, rom kremli axla am pasuxis-
mgeblobas Tavis Tavze aiRebda?
_ polonelebi ar ibrZvian mxo-
lod sakuTari damoukideblobisT-
vis, polonelebs awuxebT sxva xal-
xebis bedi iseve, rogorc magaliTad,
qarTvelebs awuxebT Cerqezebis,
CeCnebis, inguSebisa da sxva xalxe-
bis bedi.
polonelebs awuxebT baltiis-
pirelebis, TviTon rusebis bedic.
acnobiereben imas, rom Tu ruseTSi
dabrundeba is `faseulobebi~, rome-
lic gasuli saukunis ocian wlebSi
iyo, seriozul problemebs Seuqmnis
mTel garemos, samezoblosa da
msoflios da TavisTavad ruseTis
federaciasac problema Seeqmneba.
portretomania, SemorCenili Zeg-
lebisadmi Tayvaniscema ar aris
normaluri movlena, ruseTma unda
airCios qristianoba Tu is kerpebi.
dRemde leninis gvami devs moskovis
centralur moedanze. es aris daa-
vadebuli sazogadoeba, romelsac
ar ZaluZs dabruneba ZirZvel faseu-
lobebTan. nikoloz meoris dros
da axlac absoluturad gansxva-
vebuli sazogadoebaa. bolSevikebma
mospes rusuli inteligencia, samRv-
deloeba. dRevandeli rusuli sazo-
gadoeba sulier krizisSia. saqarT-
veloSic aris totalitaruli
azrovnebis elementebi da xSirad
amas Cveni politikosebi avlenen.
_ putini sabWoTa kavSirs mis-
tiris da mis aRdgenaze ocnebobs,
man isic Tqva, rom globaluri ka-
tastrofa iyo Turme sabWoTa kav-
Sris dangreva.
_ davaneboT Tavi putins, me axla
rusul sazogadoebaze ufro vsaub-
rob. putins Tavad rusuli sazoga-
doeba aZlevs dakveTas, sabWoTa
reJimis aRdgenis Taobaze. kaCinski
bolomde ebrZoda am qimeras. igi
warmoadgenda politikuri elitis
im nawils, romelic ebrZoda bol-
Sevizms 60-ian, 80-ian wlebSi. kaCin-
skis Semdeg misi politikuri mimar-
Tuleba darCeba poloneTSi, misi Zma
gaagrZelebs am mimarTulebas misi
politikuri organizaciis saxiT.
mZlavri resursis mqone eria _ 40
milioni polonelia saxelmwifoSi.
_ xom ar Seicvleba dasavle-
Tisken aRebuli kursi?
_ sasacilo iqneba polonelebma
dasavleTze uari Tqvan da Celia-
binsks SeuerTdnen. es exeba, sxvaTa
Soris, baltiispireTsac. bevrs ux-
aria, rom iq axla ekonomikuri kri-
zisia. aucilebelia mezoblebs So-
ris normalur TanamSromloba. sa-
xelmwifoebma erTmaneTs pativi unda
scen. kaCinskis pretenzia putinTan
amaSi mdgomareobda. moskovi ar aw-
armoebs im politikas, rom polo-
aprili-maisi, 2010 17
usafrTxoebis sistema
mTlianad unda Seicvalos.
es ar exeba mxolod
poloneTsa da saqarTvelos.
natos usafrTxoebis sistema
krizisSia da amiT
sargeblobs moskovi.
neTma igrZnos Tanabr saxelmwifod
Tavi.
_ valeria novodvorskaiam ga-
nacxada am tragediis Semdeg: kre-
mls didi xania undoda kaCinskis
Tavidan moSoreba. ruseTi pirad
mtrad aRiqvamda kaCinskis, iuSenkos
da saakaSvils. iuSenko xelisuf-
lebas CamoaSora, kaCinski mokla,
axla saakaSvilze daiwyebs nadiro-
baso. eTanxmebiT am mosazrebas?
_ dudaevis ganadgureba rogor
moxda, mobiluri telefonis sig-
nalis meSveobiT. qveyanas, romelsac
dakarguli aqvs saerTaSoriso zne-
oba da SeuZlia patara qveynis oku-
pacia, am qveynidan yvelaferi dasaS-
vebia. kaCinskis katastrofa _ es aris
signali imisTvis, rom usafrT-
xoebis sistemebi unda iyos gadaxe-
dili, maT Soris sagareo politikac.
usafrTxoebis sistema mTlianad
unda Seicvalos. es ar exeba mxo-
lod poloneTsa da saqarTvelos.
natos usafrTxoebis sistema krizis-
Sia da amiT sargeblobs moskovi.
TurqeTi, rogorc natos wevri qve-
yana, sxvagvarad iqceva, aSS _ sxvag-
varad, safrangeTi _ sxvagvarad.
TurqeTi agvistos omis dros Sav
zRvaSi ar uSvebda aSS-is gemebs.
TurqeTma radikalurad Secvala
politika ruseTTan. seriozuli Se-
Tanxmebebia, ara marto bunebriv ai-
rTan dakavSirebiT, uvizod Sevlen
ruseTSi, ori bazris Serwyma xdeba.
_ es TurqeTs rac Seexeba, magram
natos sxva wevri qveynebi, polo-
neTi da baltiispireTis respub-
likebi, ruseTs ar epuebian. Cveni
usafrTxoeba iqneba daculi imis
gaTvaliswinebiT, rom natos wevri
saqarTvelo ar aris?
_ Cvenve unda davicvaT sakuTari
usafrTxoeba. Tu qveyanas ara aqvs
Tavisi usafrTxoebis sistema, verc
erT sxva usafrTxoebis sistemaSi
ver igrZnobs Tavs komfortulad.
_ saqarTvelo mcirericxovani
qveyanaa, am dros uzarmazari ru-
seTis winaSe saomar mdgomare-
obaSia. rogor davicvaT Tavi Cveni
usafrTxoebis sistemiT?
_ ruseTTan ki ara, sakuTar Tav-
Tan varT saomar mdgomareobaSi. po-
lonelebi konsolidirebuli eria.
poloneTs ar Seetyo es didi ka-
tastrofa, mxedvelobaSi maqvs po-
loneTis infrastruqtura. ufro
gaZlierdebian. aq ki opozicia ar
arsebobs. opoziciis jamuri reitingi
aq nuls udris. opoziciis qmedebebi
erTmaneTis sawinaaRmdegod aris
mimarTuli. ar SeuZliaT warmoad-
ginon konstruqciuli gegma. arc
inteleqtualuri resursi gaaCniaT.
TezisiT, rom saakaSvili cudia da
es xelisufleba gaTaxsirebulia,
opozicia Sors ver wava da verc
qarTuli politikuri elita Seiqm-
neba. noRaideli rom exuteba putins,
es ar niSnavs imas, rom igi inteleq-
tualur produqts debs. Tu gvaqvs
erovnuli Tavmoyvareoba, unda Sevq-
mnaT erovnuli produqti.
Tamar niniZe,
gazeTi `droni~.
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mimarTva qarTveli emigraciisadmi
sruliad saqarTvelos kaTolikos-patriarqi,
uwmidesi da unetaresi ilia II saSobao
epistoleSi kidev erTxel gvaxsenebs, raoden
didia da mniSvnelovani eris istoriaSi im
adamianTa Rvawli, vinc TavdadebiT, uangarod
emsaxura qarTul mecnierebasa Tu kulturas.
samwuxarod Tu sasixarulod, axla dagvidga is
dro, roca kvlav da kvlav unda warmovaCinoT
eris sasiqadulo Svilebi, miviwyebis
ferflmiyrili maTi saxelebi da saqmeni
saqebarni.
vexmianebiT saqarTvelos pat-
riarqis mowodebas da amjerad
ase Tu ise, ar icnobs,
mciredi SemoklebiT gTavazobT,
eqvTime TayaiSvilis mimarTvas
qarTuli emigraciisadmi - "es me
davwere maSin, rodesac parizSi
Cemi iubiles mowyobas apirebd-
neno", - brZanebda didi qarTveli,
eriskaci, RvTiskaci, saqarTve-
los meWurWleTuxucesi - isto-
rikosi, arqeologi, eTnologi,
epigrafikosi, numizmati, filo-
logi, rusTvelologi, filklo-
risti, lingvisti, mecierebis mo-
mijnave dargTa - geografiis, xe-
lovnebis istoriis, ekonomikuri
da samarTlis istoriis, arqeog-
rafiisa da teqstologiis sakiT-
xTa mkvlevari. vfiqrobT, aravi-
sTvis iqneba uintereso kidev
erTxel gadaikiTxos am RvTis-
kacis naazrevi. "sul imas vSiS-
obdi, is ar daikargos, is ar waxdes, yvelaferi avwero,
rac SeiZleba meti gamovce, gadmoviRo, SeviZino, Se-
movawirvino, muzeumi Sevqmna, rom Seinaxos es yvelaferi-
meTqi da ase midioda Cemi muSaoba. sad mqonda imis
dro da saSualeba, rom davmjdariyavi da namdvili
gamokvlevebi mewera?! rac movaswari, isic mikvirs,
.rogor ar mezareboda, rogor vaxerxebdi amden rames,
pirdapir sakvirvelia! amas yvelafers imisTvis vake-
Tebdi, rom mere gamoCndebodnen mkvlevarebi da yvela-
fers Seiswavlidnen. marTlac, ras izamda Tundac ivane
javaxiSvili, Tu gind sxvebi, es rom ar yofiliyo
Sekrebili da gamocemuli?! isini xom Cemi gamocemebiT
sargeblobdnen?" - es aris namdvili arsi eqvTime
TayaiSvilis didi mecnierul moRvaweobasa mis mierve
fxizlad, piruTvnelad, avkargianad Sefasebuli.
iyo dro da es arc ise didi xania, rac Cveni inte-
ligencia erTob gulgrilad ucqeroda qarTul sa-
kulturo naSTebs da Tavs ar iwuxebda maTi Segrovebisa
da gamocemisaTvis. am gulgrilobam didZali pirvel-
xarisxovani Zeglebi dagvikarga. rac mamebs TavianT
Zvel ojaxebSi dagrovili hqondaT, Svilebma dakarges...
qarTuli sulieri, gonebrivi da materialuri kultura
rTulia, mravalmxrivia da bevr rameSi metad
Taviseburia. iSviaTia patara eri, romelsac aseTi mdi-
dari Zveli kultura hqondes. am kulturam gadaarCina
qarTveli eri mospobas JamTa viTarebis aboboqrebuli
qartexilisagan, misca unari simtkicisa, gamZleobisa
da yoveli Wiris gadatanisa. vinc am kulturas, ase Tu
ise, ar icnobs, is arasodes ar iqneba namdvili qarTveli,
WeSmaritad qarTuli sulis matarebeli, mas gadagvareba
moelis, Tu ukve gadagvarebuli ar aris. amitom movale
varT, xeli SevuwyoT Cveni kulturis safuZvlianad
Seswavlas, rac unda gamoixatos sakulturo masalebis
SekrebaSi da ukve Sekrebilis gamoqveynebaSi. uamisod
Cven ver aRvadgenT Cveni kulturis namdvil saxes da
ver SevignebT mis cxovelmyofel Zalas, romelic
ixateboda, pirvel yovlisa, mdidari qarTuli enis
ganviTarebaSi. qarTvelTa mier qarTuli Zeglebis
Sekreba iwyeba mxolod wera-kiTxvis sazogadoebis
daarsebidan, amas xeli Seuwyo kidev saeklesio muzeumisa
da gansakuTrebiT ganacxovela saistorio da
saeTnografio sazogadoebis daarsebam... exla mas agvi-
rgvinebs Cvens dros daarsebuli qarTuli universiteti
da xels uwyoben Cveni muzeumebi.
kvexnaSi nurvin CamomarTmevs, Tu vityviT, rom wilad
mxvda, sxvebTan erTad, Cemi susti Rone da mcire
Tavisufali dro, specialuri sapedagogo moRva-
weobidan gadarCenili, mTlad Semewira qarTuli
saistorio da sakulturo sagnebis da masalebis
SegrovebisaTvis, cnobaSi moyvanisaTvis, aRwerisa da
gamocemisaTvis. am mizniT xSirad mixdeboda mogzauroba
da eqspediciebis mowyoba saqarTvelos sxvadasxva
kuTxeebSi. Segrovili didZali masala daculia Cvens
muzeumebSi. mcire nawili gamocemulia da vinc Cvens
THBCIDBKT,B
literaturas Tvals adevnebda, dainaxavda, Tu rogor
Seuwyves xeli am gamocemebma Cveni istoriis,
literaturis da xelovnebis Seswavlas. xolo erTi
nawili masalebisa Tan maqvs da gamoucemeli rCeba,
saqme ki saSuria: dro midis, me miviwure aR-
sasrulisaken: "adamis tomTa wesiTa" da Cems Semdeg am
masalas Tavs veravin gaarTmevs. Tana maqvs, sxvaTa
Soris, SesaniSnavi saxuTmoZRvro Zeglebis gegmebi
samusulmano saqarTvelosi da mravali fotografiuli
suraTi. maT Soris iseTi pirvelxarisxovani Zeglebis
suraTebic, romelnic dRes samudamod mospobilia da
mxolod Cemi aRweriloba da
gadmoRebuli suraTebia darCenili.
"vinc am kulturas,
amaT gamocemas mpirdebodnen eqvs did
albomad, magram es imedi exla gaqra,
is arasodes ar
vinaidan amas, sul cota dasWirdeba
iqneba namdvili
naxevar milion frankze meti. isic
qarTveli,
WeSmaritad didi saqme iqneba, Tu aRwerilobaTa
qarTuli sulis teqstebi gamoveciT. es Seadgens daa-
matarebeli, mas xloebiT 2000 gverds Sua formatis
gadagvareba wignisas, rasakvirvelia, es ramdenime
moelis, wignad unda gamovides. amitom gavkad-
Tu ukve nierdebi, vinaidan es sazogado
gadagvarebuli qarTuli sakulturo saqmea da mivma-
ar aris". rTav yvela sazRvars gareT myof
qarTvel organizaciebs da TviTeul
sazRvars gareT myof qarTvels ganur-
Cevlad partiisa. keTili inebon da
visac ra SeuZlia, ramdenic SeuZlia,
dagvexmaron am saqmeSi. visac exerxeba,
erTdrouli Tanxa mogvawodos; visac
es ar exerxeba, Tviurad erTi wlis
ganmavlobaSi aT-aTi franki Semoita-
nos. ufro xelmokled SeuZliaT Tviu-
rad xuT-xuTi franki gadadvan. vinc umuSevaria, maT es
mimarTva ar exeba. kerZod im organizaciebisaTvis, ro-
melnic gazeTebs scemen, Cemi winadadebaa, erTi-ori
nomeris gamocema SeaCeron da maTi fasi am saqmisaTvis
gadadvan, amiT mgonia, araferi daSavdeba.
me mowme var im saocari evoluciisa, romelic CvenSi
moxda am sakiTxSi. Tu pirvel xanebSi am dargSi
muSaobis dros me sasacilod migdebdnen, Tavs
mesxmoden, gansaqiqebel werilebs miZRvnidnen, saisto-
rio da saeTnografio sazogadoebis daarsebis Semdeg
mtruli ganwyobileba simpatiad Seicvala. yvelam didi
pativi damdva, Zvirad Tu vismes gauwbilebivar
sayuradRebo xelnawerebis da nivTebis SemowirvaSi.
raSiac fuls vaZlevdiT, imasac sul iafad
dagviTmobdnen. aTi wlis ganmavlobaSi didi muzeumi
SevqmeniT da milioni maneTis uZravi mamulebi SeviZineT.
is anderZebi, romelnic dagvitoves akaki wereTelma,
daviT sarajiSvilma, nestor petriaSvilma,
RuduSaurebma da bevrma sxvebma (xolo Cven revoluciis
da fulis dacemis gamo naklebad visargebleT),
mowmoben ZiriTad gardatexas da mtkice Segnebas Cveni
Zveli kulturis Seswavlis aucilebel saWiroebisa...
mTelma saqarTvelom pativi dagvdva da xeli Segviwyo.
Tu aseTi simpatia gamoyva emigraciasac, maSin Cemi
winadadeba, pativiT iqneba miRebuli. samwuxarod, Cveni
emigracia daqsaqsulia politikuri mimarTulebis
TvalsazrisiT. am saqmeSi mainc SeverTdeT. iqneba am
SeerTebam sxva did saqmeSic SeerTeba gamoiwvioso.
RmerTma qnas!
axlo xanSi 50 weli Sesruldeba, rac me sapedagogo
dargSi daviwye muSaoba. Cemma yofilma Segirdebma
mommarTes winadadebiT iubiles mowyobisa. razedac,
uari ganvacxade, pirvelad mitom, rom saiubileo
araferi gamikeTebia. mxolod Cem qarTul movaleobas
vasrulebdi. meored mitom, rom kidevac Rirsi viyo
iubilesa, Cvens pirobebSi, emigraciaSi, iubile vis
gaugonia! ar egebis! iubilezed metad CavTvli da ufro
sasargebloc iqneba, Tu am gamocemaTa saSualebas
momixerxeben.
nurvin damwamebs, TiTqo me Cveni emigraciis siRaribe
ar vicode. magram isic kargad vici, CvenSi sazogado
saqme, Tu rame gakeTebulia, isev Raribi qarTvelis
jibiT da misi inteligenciis wyalobiT, mdidrebi cota
gvyvanden da vinc gvyavda, bevri saimiso araferi
gaukeTebiaT. Tu guli gulobs da yvelani SeverTdebiT,
saerTo wvliliTac am saqmes eSveleba. es aris pirveli
da ukanaskneli Cemi Txovna qarTveli emigraciisadmi.
vinc pativs dagvdebs da dagvexmareba am saqmeSi, maT
vTxov windawinve miiRon Cemi uRrmesi madloba...
25 noemberi, 1932.
levili
erToba UNITY
napoleonis
mameluqi
qarTveli iyo
raJden gveta-
Ze: napoleonis
piradi mcveli
mameluki qarT-
veli iyo. mis
Sesaxeb konstan-
ti (konstanti
iyo napoleonis
karis ufrosi
gamrige) Tavis
memuarebSi wers
Semdegs: `impe-
ratoris mame-
lukis saxeliT cnobili rustani
(zogierT wyaroSi is moixsenieba
rogorc rostom razmaZe) iyo kargi
ojaxis Svili saqarTvelodan. eqvsi
Tu Svidi wlis iqneboda, roca is
moitaces da waiyvanes kairoSi,
sadac igi izrdeboda, rogorc mona
srul asakamde, ris Semdegac gaxda
mameluki. egvi pteSi laSqrobisas gen-
eral bonaparts (egvi ptidan ingli-
sis gansadevnad direqtoriam 1798-
99 wels napoleonis sardlobiT
gagzavna eqspedicia. maSin napoleoni
brigadis generali iyo). qairos Sahma
saCuqrad miarTva ramdenime arabuli
cxeni da amave dros ori mameluki _
rustani da ibrahimic Tan gaatana.
napoleonma qarTveli mameluqi rus-
tani daitova Tavis amalaSi. rus-
tani ise daiaxlova imperatorma,
rom igi yvelgan aucileblad axlda
mas, sadac ki sajarod gamoCndeboda.
rustani agreTve imperators axlda
mogzaurobebis dros da, rac gan-
sakuTrebiT Seadgens rustanis
damsaxurebas, igi monawileobas
iRebda yvela mis omSi. napoleonis
Stabis wevrTa Soris Tavisi ieriT
da aRmosavluri CacmulobiT yvela-
ze ufro brwyinvale STabeWdilebas
axdenda rustani. igi sargeblobda
napoleonis didi ndobiT, rasac zo-
gierTebi xsnian imiT, rom erTxel
rustanma mtris moqneuli xmali
aacdina napoleons da ueWvel sikv-
dils gadaarCina.
rustanma colad SeirTo axalgaz-
rda lamazi frangis qali, gvarad
duvill, romlis mamac iyo dedo-
fal Jozefinas kamerdineri. colis
SerTvis Semdeg rustans veRar vxe-
davT napoleonis amalaSi; gazeTebi
usayvedurebdnen rustans imas, rom
igi 1814-1815 wlebSi bolomde ar mih-
yva imperatoris beds (Constant. Memo-
ires sur la vie pricee de Napoleon sa famile
et sa cour Paris M. DCCC XXX, gv. 63).
napoleonis Sinagan saqmeTa minist-
ris fuSes cxovrebis da moRvaweobis
mkvlevaris lui madlinis mowmobiT,
yofila momenti, roca napoleons
fuSes adgilas undoda daeniSna ru-
stani.
1827 wels erT-erT sasamarTloSi
mowmed yofnisas, rustani dakiTxvis
dros acxadebs, rom igi warmoSobiT
qarTvelia, daibada TbilisSi, sa-
qarTveloSi, aris ormocdaoTxi wl-
is, maSasadame, igi dabadebula 1783
wels, xolo tyved gauyidiaT 1789-
90 wels. qarTvel mameluks saxeli
Seucvales rustanad, romelic mas
gvaris magivrobasac uwevda. yvela
dokumentSi igi ixsenieba marto am
saxelwodebiT.
parizidan 50 kilometris daSore-
biT, erT patara q. durdanSi, 1845
wlis dekembris 7-s gardaicvala yve-
lasagan miviwyebuli, erT dros na-
poleonis brwyinvale mameluki rus-
tani.
qarTveli mameluki rustani mox-
seniebuli hyavs lev tolstoisac
napoleonis mxlebelTa Soris (ix.
lev tolstois TxzulebaTa me-8 to-
mi, `omi da mSvidoba~, gv. 24, 1951 w.,
moskovi).
 UNITY erToba
bolSevikuri ruseTis armia
1920 wlis gazafxulze, wiTel
xidTan Tavs daesxa saqarTvelos
demokratiul respublikas. amave
dros, 2 maiss boloSevikebi Tavs
daesxnen Tbilisis qarTul sam-
xedro skolas (cnobil iunkerTa
saswavlebels). ormxrivi srolis
dros daiRupa 21 wlis iunkeri,
`TeTri giorgis~ jvris kavaleri
mixeil mayaSvili (mweral kote
mayaSvilis Zmis Svili, general
solomon mayaSvilis vaJi). igi gax-
ldaT bolSevikTa pirveli msxve-
rpli.
qarTulma jarma, general gio-
rgi kvinitaZis sardlobiT wi-
Teli xididan Semosuli bol-
Sevikebis 3 diviziisgan ori
miwasTan gaaswora. amis Semdeg
igi daedevna mtris darCenil
erT divizias. magram noe Jor-
danias yovlad ugunur brZa-
nebiT, qarTuli jari iZule-
buli gaxda, Seewyvita devna da
ukan dabrunebuliyo.
1920 wlis 7 maiss moskovSi
daido ruseT-saqarTvelos
xelSekruleba, romlis ZaliT,
ruseTi uars ambobda saqarT-
velos demokratiuli respublikis
mimarT nebismier pretenziaze.
xelSekrulebas xeli moaweres:
ruseTis mxridan _ sagareo saqmeTa
saxalxo komisarma CiCerinma,
saqarTvelos mxridan _ elCma
ruseTSi grigol urataZem.
xelSekrulebis xelmowerisas,
Tbilisidan miRebuli dasturis
safuZvelze, saqarTvelos warmo-
madgenelma dauSva upatiebeli da
savalalo Secdoma: rusuli mxaris
zewoliT, xeli moewera xelSekr-
ulebis saidumlo damatebas,
romlis ZaliT, saqarTvelos teri-
toriaze moxda komunisturi par-
tiis legalizeba. mogvianebiT
generali kvinitaZe savsebiT sama-
rTlianad aRniSnavda, rom sa-
qarTvelom swored maSin dakarga
saxelmwifoebrivi damoukidebloba
(ix.: generali g. kvinitaZe, `Cemi
pasuxi~, Tbilisi, 1990, gv. 11-13).
xelSekruleba, romelic ru-
seTma drois mogebisa da saqarT-
velos xelisufalTa yuradRebis
modunebis mizniT gaaforma, fara-
tina qaRaldi iyo bolSevikebis-
Tvis. 1921 wlis 11 Tebervals bol-
Sevikebis SenaerTebma 5 mxridan
Semouties saqarTvelos: aRmosav-
leTidan (azerbaijani), samxreT-
aRmosavleTidan (somxeTi), daria-
lisa da mamisonis mxridan da so-
xumis mimarTulebiT. Tbilisisken
moemarTeboda me-11 armia, romel-
sac qarTulma armiam, iunkerTa
skolis aseulebma da moxaliseebma
udidesi winaaRmdegoba gauwies
kojor-tabaxmelas misadgomebTan.
1921 wlis 25 Tebervals me-11
wiTeli armia TbilisSi Semovida.
1921 wlis martSi erovnuli
armiis SenaerTebma, general gi-
orgi mazniaSvilis meTaurobiT
Turqi askerebisgan ganwminda ba-
Tumi da mTeli aWara. swored
mazniaSvilisa da misi polkis
damsaxurebaa, rom saqarTvelom
aWara SeinarCuna.
sainteresoa erTi momenti: 1922
wels amierkavkasiis e.w. sabWoTa
federaciuli respublikis cak-ma
me-11 armiis samxedro-revoluciuri
sabWos wevri sergo orjonikiZe
daajildova #1 `wiTeli droSis
ordeniT~, warweriT `Tbilisis
aRebisaTvis~!..
EF[KTCB BCNJHBBLFY
TbilisSi SemosvliTanave me-
11 armiis samxedro-revoluciurma
sabWom daiwyo aqtiuri represiebi
bolSevikebisTvis `saeWvo elemen-
tebis~ mimarT. sakmarisia aRiniS-
nos, rom jer kidev baqoSi yofnis
dros xsenebuli armiis samxedro-
revoluciurma tribunalma daxv-
reta miusaja imxanad baqoSi myof
saqarTvelos armiis warmomadgen-
lebs.
sicocxles gamoasalmes (kasp-
iis zRvaSi CaaxrCes) saxelovani
gererali balo mayaSvili, daxv-
rites polkovniki nikoloz dad-
iani-mingrelski, kapitani petre fa-
stalinizmis epoqa
da saqarTvelos
tragedia: 1921-1953
lavandiSvili da sxvani. Tbili-
sSi Semosvlidan mcire xnis Sem-
deg daxvrites erovnuli armiis
sadarajo aTaseulis yofili meTa-
uri, kapitani konstantine WuWu-
laSvili.
radgan icodnen, rom xalxi ar
Seurigdeboda okupanti bolSevi-
kebis mmarTvelobas da `arCevn-
ebis~ SemTxvevaSi, daumorCileb-
lobas gamoucxadebda sisxliT mo-
sul reJims, stalinis miTiTebiT
gadawyda, rom `saqarTvelo saWi-
roebs cxeli uToTi gadavlas~
(swored aseTi mowodebiT gamovida
stalini bolSevikuri partiis
centraluri komitetis 1921 wlis
ivnisis sxdomaze. ix.: saqarTvelos
Sss saarqivo sammarTvelos saiti
http://archive.security.gov.ge/saqar-
tvelos_okupacia.html).
1921 wlis gazafxulis damlevs
antibolSevikurma amboxebam ifeTqa
svaneTSi. mas saTaveSi edgnen gen-
erali nestor gardafxaZe, egnate
gabliani da biZina pirveli. da-
sawyisSi ajanyebulebi warmate-
biT moqmedebdnen. maT mxareze ga-
davidnen amboxebis CasaxSobad gag-
zavnili razmis mebrZolebic. mag-
ram damatebiTi Zalebisa da avia-
ciis gagzavnis Semdeg saokupacio
nawilebma SeZles ajanyebis Cax-
Soba.
aRsaniSnavia, rom mTel saqarT-
veloSi iqmneboda partizanuli
razmebi (laSqaraSvilis _ qarT-
lSi, mxeiZis _ imereTSi, maTiTa-
iSvilis _ guriaSi da a.S.).
1922 wlis agvistoSi ifeTqa
axalma ajanyebam xevsureTSi. mas
saTaveSi edga polkovniki qai-
xosro (qaquca) ColoyaSvili. sam-
wuxarod, SeuTanxmeblobis gamo,
es amboxebac marcxiT dasrulda.
avadsaxsenebelma `Cekam~ daapatimra
misi ara erTi aqtiuri monawile:
giorgi liqokeli, berdia ara-
buli, mindia liqokeli, mindia
WinWarauli, mamuka WinWarauli,
apareka arabuli, imeda wiklauri,
apareka liqokeli, rostom meTe-
kauri, giguCa WinWarauli, baZia
liqokeli, gaga WinWarauli da
sxvani.
aRsaniSnavia, rom am amboxebis
aqtiuri monawile iyo vaJa-fSa-
velas Zma Tedo razikaSvili, ro-
melic Cekistebma mxecurad mokles
imave 1922 wels. maTTan Setakebisas
daiRupnen, agreTve, amboxebis aq-
tiuri monawileni svimon (siko)
ColoyaSvili (qaquca ColoyaSv-
ilis Zma) da rotmistri konsta-
ntine ColoyaSvili. amboxebis Cax-
Sobis Semdeg daxvrites pavle Sa-
niZe, aleqsi misriaSvili, giorgi
TandilaSvili da sxvani (aRsa-
niSnavia, rom am amboxebas mieZRvna
ivane liqokelis SesaniSnavi mono-
grafia `xevsurebi da qaquca~. Tbi-
lisi, gamomcemloba `artanuji~,
2006). mogvianebiT xevsureTis aj-
anyebaSi monawileobisaTvis daxv-
rites rotmistri s. andronika-
Svili, leitenanti sumbaTaSvili,
leitenanti arC. vaCnaZe, vaxtang
abaSiZe, social-demokrati s. ge-
laSvili.
1922 wels Seiqmna saqarTvelos
antisabWoTa partiebis paritetu-
li komiteti (igive `damoukide-
blobis komiteti~) da misi sam-
xedro centri, romelsac kavSiri
hqonda 1921 wlis 5 noembers par-
xelSekruleba, romelic ruseTma drois
mogebisa da saqarTvelos xelisufalTa
yuradRebis modunebis mizniT gaaforma,
faratina qaRaldi iyo bolSevikebisTvis. 1921
wlis 11 Tebervals bolSevikebis
SenaerTebma 5 mxridan Semouties saqarTvelos:
aRmosavleTidan (azerbaijani), samxreT-
aRmosavleTidan (somxeTi), darialisa da
mamisonis mxridan da soxumis mimarTulebiT.
izSi Seqmnil `samxedro komisia-
sTan~.
gamcemlobis Sedegad, 1923 wlis
martSi `Cekam~ moaxerxa `samxedro
centris~ wevrTa dapatimreba. imave
wlis 19 maiss maT miesajaT daxv-
reta. ganaCeni sisruleSi moiyvanes
1923 wlis 20 maiss, TbilisSi, dRe-
vandeli vakis parkis teritoriaze.
kerZod, daxvrites: 1. generali
konstantine (kote) abxazi (samxed-
ro centris xelmZRvaneli), 2. gene-
rali varden wulukiZe, 3. gene-
rali aleqsandre andronikaSvili,
4. generali rostom musxeliSvili,
5. polkovniki giorgi ximSiaSvili,
6. polkovniki elizbar gulisaS-
vili, 8. rotmistri simon bagra-
tion-muxraneli, 9. rotmistri le-
van klimiaSvili, 10. iason kere-
seliZe, 11. ivane quTaTelaZe. amis
Semdeg aRniSnuli parkis teri-
toriaze daixvrita samSoblos
TavisuflebisTvis mebrZoli ram-
denime aTasi patrioti.
mogvianebiT sabWoTa reJimma am
adgilas savsebiT Segnebulad gaa-
Sena parki, raTa xalxs etaSfa-
ndura wamebul mamuliSvilTa
Zvlebze da maTi sisxliT gaJRe-
nTil miwaze. aseve, Segnebulad
uwodes am codvis parks `gamar-
jvebis parki~... ase rom, samarTl-
aprili-maisi, 2010 19
ianoba izeimebs, Tu `vakis parkSi~,
iq, sadac dRes e.w. ucnobi jaris-
kacis saflavia, moewyoba `sabWoTa
represiebis msxverpl mamuliSvi-
lTa xsovnis memoriali~. saamisod
parkSi ukve arsebobs kompleqsi
saqarTvelos saxalxo mxatvris,
baton gogi oCiauris ori Sesa-
niSnavi skulpturiT. rac Seexeba
ucnobi jariskacis saflavs, yve-
laze kargi iqneba, Tu amgvari saf-
lavi moewyoba muxaTgverdze,
saqarTvelos erTianobisaTis da-
Rupul mebrZolTa saZmo sasaf-
laoze. amis Rirsi namdvilad ari-
an gmirebi, romlebic 2008 wlis
agvistoSi Seewirnen rusi bar-
barosebis winaaRmdeg uTanas-
woro, WeSmaritad samamulo oms
da romelTa cxedrebic, samwu-
xarod, amoucnobia. vfiqrobT,
saxeli unda Seecvalos `gamar-
jvebis parks~. sasurvelia, mas
ewodos `samSoblos Tavisuf-
lebisTvis mebrZol mamuliS-
vilTa xsovnis parki~.
1923 wels damkomma airCia
samxedro centris axali Semad-
genloba. centrs ewoda `cent-
raluri samxedro komisia~ da
mis xelmZRvanelad dainiSna gen-
eral spiridon WavWavaZe.
1924 wlis 24 agvistos sxdo-
maze damkomma daadgina erTd-
rouli saerTo-saxalxo amboxebis
TariRi: 1924 wlis 29 agvisto,
dRis 2 saaTi. samwuxarod, men-
SevikTa destruqciuli da gamcem-
luri moqmedebis gamo, WiaTura
gamovida dadgenil droze 24 sa-
aTiT adre, ramac CaSala ajanye-
basTan dakavSirebiT SemuSavebuli
gegmebi.
Cekistebi sastikad gauswordnen
ajanyebis monawileebs. 1924 wlis
seqtemberSi daxvrites araerTi
cnobili moRvawe, maT Soris:
generali giorgi furcelaZe,
polkovniki muSni dadiani da misi
Zma, Stabs-kapitani oTar dadiani,
erovnul-demokratiul partiis
cnobili moRvawe elene Tarxan-
mouravi, cnobili advokati da
sazogado moRvawe nikoloz miqe-
laZe, aWaris damkomis Tavmjdomare
giorgi (gizo) anjafariZe, Tval-
saCino eqimi da sazogado moRvawe
iona meburiSvili, erovnul-demok-
ratiuli partiis mTavari komi-
tetis wevri giorgi gujejiani,
erovnuli sabWos da damfuZnebeli
krebis yofili wevri petre (tutku)
gvaramia, quTaTel-gaenaTeli mit-
ropoliti nazari (leJava), deka-
nozi simon mWedliZe, qaquca Co-
loyaSvilis simamri, erovnuli
moZraobis TvalsaCino moRvawe
ilia meRvineTuxucesi, polkov-
niki eko wereTeli, poruCiki petre
wereTeli, giorgis kavaleri, rot-
mistri manuCar jandieri, pol-
kovniki panteleimon gedevaniSvi-
li, generali aslan-beg abaSiZe
da a.S.
maia levaniZe
 20 aprili-maisi, 2010 CGJHNB
saqarTvelos nakrebi nana
ZiudoSi evropis Cempionia aleqsandrias
Tasi-2010
9-19 ivliss q. foTi kvlav
umaspinZlebs tradiciul me-
5 saerTaSoriso saWadrako
festivals "nana aleqsan-
drias Tasi-2010"-s. festi-
vali 2006 wlidan q. foTis
TviTmarTvelobis organiz-
avstriis dedaqalaq venaSi dasrulda evropis Cempionati
ebiT tardeba da masSi wina
ZiudoSi, sadac turniris bolo dRes, 25 aprils saqar-
wlebSi monawileobdnen aze-
Tvelos nakrebma gunduri pirveli adgili da evropis Cem-
rbaijanis, somxeTis, ukra-
pionis tituli moi pova.
inis, ruseTis, holandiis, es-
qarTvelma Ziudoistebma finalSi safrangeTis nakrebi
toneTis da iranis warmom-
3:2 daamarcxes da oqros medlebi moi poves. finaluri or-
adgenlebi. 2010 wlis festi-
TabrZolebi zaza kedelaSvilma (73 kg), levan wiklaurma
valze garda asakobrivi
(81 kg) da varlam li partelianma (90 kg) moiges.
turnirebisa Catardeba Ria
debulebis Tanaxmad, Sexvedrebi xuT woniT kategoriaSi
turniri. festivalis mTli-
- 66, 73, 81, 90 da +90 kilogramebSi Catarda, qarTvelebma ki
ani saprizo fondi 26 aTas
oqros medali vadaze adre - 4 wonis Sexvedrebis dasru-
lars Seadgens.
lebis Semdeg moi poves.
66 kilogramSi daviT asumbani sofian milusTan i poniT
damarcxda da safrangeTi dawinaurda. zaza kedelaSvilma
(73 kg) luis korvals 3 wuTSi 2 vazariT angariSi gaaTa-
nabra. levan wiklaurma (81 kg) antuan janini daamarcxa da cigaobis
saqarTvelo daawinaura. varlam li partelianma (90 kg) ki
roman bufes Cempionobis momtani i poniT sZlia.
finalamde qarTulma xuTeulma moldova da poloneTi
federaciam
aseTive angariSiT Camoicila. aqve erTi saintereso detalic
_ wiklaurma da li partelianma gunds sam-sami qula daskvna
moutanes.
cnobisaTvis: evropis Cempionatze ruseTis federaciis
premier-ministri, vladimer putini 150 rus bavSvTan erTad
gamoaqveyna
imyofeboda. putinma saqarTvelos himns bolomde usmina da
cigaobis saerTaSori-
Cvens nakrebs warmateba taSiT miuloca.
so federaciam qarTveli
mocigavis nodar qumari-
ramaz CoCiSvilma evro-
taSvilis sabediswero
daRupvis Sesaxeb saboloo
Semadgenloba daasaxela
daskvna gamoaqveyna.
olimpiuri komitetisa-
25-27 ivniss CexeTis qalaq tepliceSi Casatarebel evro- Tvis gadagzavnil doku-
pis Cempionatze wasayvani saqarTvelos Wabuk ZiudoistTa mentSi miTiTebulia rom
nakrebis Semadgenloba ukve garkveulia. mTavarma mwvrT- vankuverSi sacigao tra-
nelma ramaz CoCiSvilma rCeuli 8 sportsmenis sia rumi- saze adgili hqonda gauT-
neTis "evropis Tasis" dasrulebis Semdeg daasaxela. valiswinebel fataluri
evropirvelobaze saqarTvelos Cempionatis finalistebiT SemTxvevas.
daskvnaSi uaryofilia
dakompleqtebuli gundi gamova. Semadgenlobidan 4 wevri
pirveladi versia da aRa-
Cempionia, 4 - vercxlis priziori.
raa naxsenebi nodar quma-
`finalistebi TurqeTis, CexeTisa da rumineTis saerTa-
ritaSvilis Secdoma, do-
Soriso turnirebze gamovcadeT da saboloo gadawy-
kumentSi weria, rom momx-
vetilebac am 3 Sejibris Sedegebis SejamebiT miviReT. Za-
darTan dakavSirebiT ver
lian kargi Taoba modis. es biWebi sportul mxaresTan er-
moiZies erTi konkretuli
Tad disci pliniTac gamorCeulebi arian.
mizezi, radgan adgili
evropis CempionatisTvis mosamzadebel gegmaSi 2 Sekre-
hqonda damTxvevebis komp-
baRa dagvrCa gasavleli. 22 maiss bakurianSi CavalT da 2 leqsur serias, romelic
kvira fizikuri kondiciebis gaumjobesebaze vimuSavebT.
Semdeg ki daskvniT Sekrebas TbilisSi an gorSi gavivliT~.
erTmaneTTan iyo dakavSi-
rebuli da romelmac qarT-
saqarTvelos WabukTa nakrebi:
veli mocigavis daRupva ga-
moiwvia.
nodar qumaritaSvili
50 kg - gela kelexaSvili; 55 kg - omar niazaSvili; 60 kg
savarjiSo daSvebisas van-
- mixeil mezurniSvili; 66 kg - pavle qavTaraZe; 73 kg -
kuverSi 12 Tebervals dai-
Tamaz oniani; 81 kg - laSa taveluri; 90 kg - uSangi
Rupa.
gasitaSvili; +90 kg - karlo nemsiwveriZe; mT. mwvrTneli:
SoTa CoCiSvili.
erToba UNITY
Tbiliss surs da mzad aris
umaspinZlos
evropis axalgazrdobis olimpiur dReebs, romelic 2003
wlidan festivalis saxels atarebs arcTu ise xangrZlivi
19 wlis istoria aqvs.
miuxedavad amisa, igi seriozuli rangis sportul Se-
jibrebad iTvleba da mas specialistebi pirobiTad `mcire
olimpiadasac~ uwodeben. ukve gadawyvetilia, rom 2011 da
2013 wlis zafxulis axalgazrdul olimpiur festivals
Sesabamisad trapzoni da utrexti umaspinZlebs, xolo 2015
wels Tu sad Catardeba rigiT XIII TamaSebi Tbilissa Tu
brnoSi sul male - ramdenime TveSi gairkveva.
manamde ki qalaqis munici palitetisa da olimpiuri
komitetis organizebiT grZeldeba `Tbilisi 2015~-is pro-
eqtis mxardamWeri RonisZiebebi. amjerad metrosadgur
`wereTelTan~ Ziudos tatami gaiSala.
RonisZiebaSi seok-is prezidenti gia nacvliSvili, me-
robis kandi-
dati gigi
ugulava, Ziu-
dos federa-
ciis warmoma-
dgenlebi, da-
mwyebi da moq-
medi kimono-
istebi maT
Soris var-
lam li par-
teliani da
daviT asumba-
ni monawileo-
bdnen.
mixeil saakaSvilma quTaisSi CogburTis
kortebi da tanvarjiSis darbazi gaxsna
_`me da Cemi megobrebi ba-
TumSi kortebze vTama-
SobdiT. vnaxe quTaiseli
Tanamoqalaqeebi, gamikvir-
da ase Sors rom iyvnen
saTamaSod Camosulebi. aR-
moCnda, rom quTaisSi ar
iyo kortebi
maSin me davpirdi maT,
rom movagvarebdi kor-
tebis problemas yvela
sxva sakiTxTan erTad, ro-
mixeil saakaSvilma quTa- melic quTaisSia gadasawyv-
isSi CogburTis kortebi da eti. aqamde quTaisSi ar iyo
tanvarjiSis darbazi gaxsna. kortebi, moSlili iyo sta-
saqarTvelos prezidentma dioni, quTaiselebi curvas
axal kortebze norC sport- swavlobdnen parketze. kor-
smenebTan erTad CogburTi tebisa da tanvarjiSis dar-
iTamaSa, ris Semdegac Jur- bazis Semdeg, uaxloes dRe-
nalistebTan komentari ga- ebSi quTaisSi axali sacurao
akeTa. prezidentis gancxade- auzi da `torpedos~ centra-
biT, kortebis gaxsnis idea luri stadioni gaixsneba. am-
ekuTvnis quTaiselebs. misi iT quTaiseli axalgazrdebis
TqmiT, jansaRi momavali Tao- jansaRi cxovrebis wesze da
bis aRsazrdelad saWiroa maT perspeqtivaze vakeTebT
yvela regionSi sportuli in- gaTvlas.~_ganacxada saqarT-
frastruqturis ganviTareba. velos prezidentma.
atlantam waago, faCulia
ki saukeTeso iyo
nacionalur sakalaTbur-
To asociaciis aRmosavleT
konferenciis naxevarfina-
luri seriis pirvel matCSi
zaza faCulias `atlanta"
`orlandosTan" 71:114 ganad-
gurda, Tumc qarTveli gul-
SematkivrebisTvis kargi is
moxda, rom faCuliam atlan-
telTagan saukeTeso Sedegi
aCvena.
uimedod wagebul matCSi
atlantelTa mwvrTnelma
sastartoebi aRar datvirTa
da matCis daskvniT nawilSi
saTadarigoebs misca aspa-
rezi. zazam ki Sansi gamoiyena da saerTo statistikuri
monacemebiT `atlantelTagan" saukeTeso gaxda.
faCuliam 21 wuTSi 12 qula, 7 moxsna, 1 pasi, 1 CaWra da
1 dafareba miiTvala. burTic erTxel dakarga. zazam 6-dan
3 oriani da 8-dan 6 sajarimo Caagdo. masze meti qula, 14,
atlantelTagan jo smitma miiTvala, Tumca sxva maCveneb-
lebSi moikoWla da uprestiJulesi veb-gverd www.yahoo.com-
is versiiT, faCulia Tavis gundSi saukeTeso iyo.
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`qarTveluri memkvidreobis~ mTavar redaqtors,
gazeT `erTobis~ saredaqcio kolegiis wevrs,
Cven pecializerebuli varT:
romlis statiebi didi popularobiT sargeblobs
qarTvel emigrantebSi. depresiis, bavSvebisa da
gazeT `erTobis~ redaqcia stresis, mozardebis emociuri
uZilobis, Tvisebebis
ojaxuri daregulirebaSi
q a r T v e l e b i problemebis,
warwera tariel futkaraZis wignze - "qarTvelebi"
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dros da wlebis qariSxlebs isev movelandebiT, amerikaSi moRvaweobis didi gamocdilebiT
sul fexdafex movyvebiT, Cveni sigel-gujrebiT, gagiweven konsultacias da daxmarebas
aRar gvaklda arasdros Zveli foliantebiT.
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Tqvenivve mSobliur enaze.
wuTisoflis gzebze da bewvis legendebiT, miTebiT.
xidzec viareT, qarTvelebi viyaviT,
anaRebSi vtovebdiT Cvens qarTvelebi viqnebiT.
saxels da iarebs. ar moaklebs ufali mamuls
radgan Cvens gaCenaSi Svilebs erTgulebs,
uflis xeli eria, Svilebs aRmaSeneblebs,
verc wlebi da verc mtrebi, Svilebs Tavdadebulebs.
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xalibebi, xeTebi. arc arasdros gavqrebiT, arc
kolxebi da lazebi, arasdros davSrebiT,
iberebi, qarTebi, qarTvelebad gavCndiT da
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 22 aprili-maisi, 2010 [CJDYF erToba UNITY

aRar damrCa nervi Reri,

niko gomelauri magram mainc,

magram mainc,
radgan erTi
mainc vmReri...
mainc vqaCav,
raRac damrCa...

da bedauri gamodga mxdali,

dro yvelafris mkurnalia,
tyviis wamali danestianda,
mterTan gameqca lamazi qali. oRond Cemi ara.
me jvris sanacvlod bevr codvas saocari unaria

da meqaCeba cecxlSi satana,

vzidav dardi wara-mara.
rasac vfiqrob, gadmovisvri
ras gvetyvi, mamao?
xanjliviT mkepavs misi Rriali, umartives leqsad.
ux, ra Znelia amis atana! warsuls vaTrev Cemi kisriT, - mainteresebs Tu SeiZ-
magram amaod, bnelis msaxuro, ver viSoreb versad. leba uaris Tqma iseT wminda
ar meSinia me Seni madis. roca moxucs vxedav vinmes, SemoTavazebaze rogoricaa
ar gadavuxvev arCeul biliks maxsendeba papa. mironiT danaTesaveba, anu Tu
- biliks, romelic Waobze gadis. ca, varskvlavebs rom Caibnevs SeiZleba adaminma uari ganac-
nurvin ecdeba Cems amoTrevas, dedaCemis kaba. xados bavSvis naTliad gaxdo-
radgan es garja mainc muqTaa. cis cremlebze maxsendeba
gamiSviT, vijde me Cems WaobSi maze? codvaSi xom ar Cavardeba
me sityvebi mamis...
- Cemi Waobi Tqvenze sufTaa. amiT?
Rvino sanam gamexsneba,
- veravin dagvaZalebs naTli-
mec avtirde lamis.
obas. Cveni nebaa, daveTanxmebiT,
Rame smaSi maTendeba
qali vnaxe kafe `nalSi~... damekarga RerZi...
Tu ara. erTi ram unda gaviTva-
`Cemi leqsebi sxvaSi raRac vnebis qarma gamkra.
Camivarda gulSi, TvalSi,
kidev ra ar maxsendeba, liswinoT. Tu mosanaTlavi sru-
lwlovania da mas ar aqvs gan-
kidev ras ar vebrZvi.
is ki uceb sadRac gaqra.
ar SeeSlebaT~ imis Semdeg dro gavida,
saocari unaria
dardi wara-mara.
zraxuli naTlobis Semdeg qris-
teanuli (eklesiuri) cxovreba,
damaviwyda qali TiTqos, albaT ajobebs uaric vuTxraT,
magram vgrZnobdi, rom ar minda, dro yvelafris mkurnalia
_ oRond Cemi ara... avuxsnaT, rom qristeanoba ekle-
msaxiobi da poeti niko gome- vgrZnobdi - suli vnebas iTxovs.
siurobis gareSe ar arsebobs. Tu
lauri 13 aprilis, 40 wlis asakSi, vixsenebdi misi or mnaTobs,
cisfer sxivebs rom styorcnida mosanaTlavi mcirewlovania, um-
xangZlivi avadmyofobis Semdeg sa-
da vxvdebodi, rogor maTrobs, rogori iyo? ...aba, ra vici... jobesia miviRoT SemoTavazeba da
kuTar saxlSi gardaicvala. igi fi-
is ki, albaT, sxvas kocnida. ase amboben - hqonda wverebi. vizrunoT bavSvis qristeanul aR-
ltvis simsivniT iyo daavadebuli.
damyveboda mcire dardi ori aTasi weli ganvicdi... zrdaze - naTlioba swored amas
gomelauri 1970 wels TbilisSi
da mirtyamda, rogor deni. Careva ar Rirs, magram verevi: gulisxmobs. Tumca aqac arCevani
daibada. 1992 wels SoTa rus-
bavSvobidan ki var mardi, rogor akoca ufals loyaze?! Cvenzea.
Tavelis saxelobis Teatris sam- magram maSin davibeni. - cotaTi mainc morideboda...
saxiobo fakulteti daamTavra. gr- ar vicodi misi gvari, mezizReboda zogjer moyvasi, - SesaZlebelia Tu ara jv-
iboedovis saxelobis Teatris da saxeli da erovneba. magram Ralati ar mindeboda. ris dawera marTmadidebelsa da
Tavisufali Teatris msaxiobi ko- ar vicodi: hyavs ki qmari? arada kocnis, arada hyidis... kaTolikes Soris sarwmunoebis
te marjaniSvilis saxelobis pr- - iqneb imas emoneba. icis moklaven, gana Steria. Secvlis gareSe?
emiis laureati iyo. magram, bolos mainc vnaxe, Ralatze gana vercxlisTvis midis?! - jvriswera aris saeklesio
2001 wels man leqsebis pirveli verazea kafe `girCa~. - Tavis simcires ver moeria... saidumlo da masSi monawileoba
krebuli gamouSva, sul ki leqsebis iq davuge leqsis maxe istoriaSi darCa iuda! SeuZlia mxolod marTlmadide-
oTxi krebuli aqvs gamoSvebuli. - iq ki veRar gadamirCa... _ dResac aq aris ar gaiguda... bels. amitom kaTolikesTan jv-
igi didubis sazogado moRva- riswera mamTlmadidebluri we-
weTa panTeonSi msaxiob medea Caxava- siT SeuZlebelia. amasTan erTad
10 wamia rac gagicani
sa da dodo WiWinaZis gverdiT iqna roca pirvelad Seni Tvalebi, unda aRvniSnoT, rom eklesia ar
9 wami aris rac gavixare
dakrZaluli. 8 aris wami vigrZeni tani Cems Tvalebs Sexvda, maxsovs akurTxevs Tavis Svilebs mwva-
7 wamis win Sig CaviRvare viloce. leblebTan jvrisweraze.
6 gavida - wameba eqvsi roca pirvelad gvediT dajeqi,
- sizmari axda da gavioce. - Cems axlobels, romelic
guSin gavarda xma, rom gavTavdi. 5 wamSi gaCnda Sendami leqsi
viRacas uTqvams: axia masze, roca pirvelad mzera mesrole, aramarTlmadidebel qveyanaSi
4 uazro uSeno wami
bolos da bolos jurRmuli suli, Tan gamiRime, magrad daviben. cxovrobs, gamgzavrebis win mo-
3 jer pirjvari, Tvalebze nami
jurRmul RameSi avida caze. 2 wamSi xdeba Seteva gulis vifiqre Sengan ara minda ra! ZRvarma kurTxeva misca, eloca
arc taiWs viTxov, da arc muzarads, 1 wamSi skdeba gulis ficari me TviTon Cems Tavs fexqveS dagifen. kaTolikur taZarSi. SeiZleba
arca Sendobas, arc Secodebas. 10 wamia rac gagicani roca mommarTe ena dameba, Tu ara es?
erTi meqneba, mxolod mudara saukunea rac Segiyvare. Sen demoni xar, Tu TviT gangeba? - marTlmadidebeli eklesia
- nurvin ecdebiT Cemze godebas. rom gamicine, wamsve davTveri aris TiTqmis yvela qveyanaSi, ami-
RmerTis Secnobis or gzas vxedavdi da ar maxsovda sxva araferi. tom msgavsi problema TiTqmis
- talaxis gavliT, anda gafreniT. aRar damrCa guli, RviZli, roca Semaqe, gulSi viyvire ar arsebobs. ukidures SemTxve-
me vamjobine WuWyi da wvima, magram mainc, mainc vibrZvi... roca waxvedi lamis vitire. vaSi, morwmunes SeiZleba sacxov-
svla vamjobine mqanri afrebiT. aRar damrCa tvini, filtvi, xval ar Semxedav? ar gavioceb rebel adgilas hqondes wm. xatebi
albaT amitom, Zmamac mimuxTla magram mainc, mainc viltvi.. mainc miyvarxar, Senze viloceb. da saxlSi ilocos. Tu konkre-
tul kaTolikur taZarSi raime
siwmindea (ganxeTqilebamde rome-
qarTvelebis yvelaze didi emigracia lime wmindanis wm. nawilebi, xati
an sxva), maSin SeiZleba am siw-
mindeebis winaSe locva, magram
saqarTvelos istoriaSi cnobilia qarTvelTa burTelebi, ragbistebi...
emigraciis ramdenime faqti: sazRvargareT wavidnen mecnierebi, aspirantebi, stu- kategoriulad ar SeiZleba ka-
pirvelad qarTlis mefem vaxtang VI waiyvana ruseTSi dentebi, kvalificiuri specialistebi, momRerlebi, mocek- TolikeTa saerTo RvTismsaxure-
ramdenime TviT qarTvelebi da rusis jariT ukan unda vaveebi, msaxiobebi, inJinrebi, eqimebi, teqnologebi, musi- baSi monawileoba (Tundac am siw-
mobrunebuliyvnen saqarTvelos gasanTavisufleblad. kosebi, mezRvaurebi, mfrinavebi, sportsmenebi, muSebi, gle-
mindeebis winaSe).
es iyo 2000 kaci, Tavadaznauroba TavianTi mxleblebiT, xebi, biznesmenebi, wavidnen 12-15 wlis gogo-biWebi da 17-18
magram samudamod iq mouwiaT darCena. wlis qaliSvilebi da vaJebi, 60-70 wlis qalebi da kacebi... - sworad rogor vemTxvio
meore emigracia iyo 1921 wels. noe Jordanias iyo erTi kargi momRerali saqarTveloSi Temur caguria,
xelmZRvanelobiT safrangeTSi wavida mTeli mTavroba da romlis simReras yvelgan siamovnebiT usmendnen, werda xatebs?
parlamenti da ramdenime aTasi kaci. isini safrangeTSi SesaniSnav leqsebs. - macxovris wmida xats fexebze
dasaxldnen parizTan axlos mdebare sofel levilSi, 1992 wels Temur caguria amerikaSi wavida ojaxTan erTad. unda vemTxvioT; yovladwmida
zogi dasaxlda germaniaSic, poloneTSic, TurqeTSic da aq vaqveynebT mis erT-erT leqss, romelsac xSirad RvTismSobelsa da wmidanebs -
amerikaSic. mReroda Temur caguria sxvadasxva koncertze.
mesame emigracia daiwyo 1991 wlidan da dResac grZel- xelebze; macxovris xelTuqmnel
deba... mecxvaris simRera xatsa da ioane naTlismcemlis
ukve wavida 1 mln 700 aTasi kaci da Tu aseTi cxovreba xats - Tmebze.
gagrZelda, saqarTveloSi 2-3 weliwadSi Rarib-Rataki ki mival mivyvebi TeTri gzebiT Cemi saxl-kari
ara, milionerebic ar gaCerdebian. me Cems farasa, moqarguli mTa da mdeloa, - rogori damokidebuleba
albaT Seiqmneba `patara saqarTveloebi~ TurqeTSi, batkan xelSi myvan Cemi simRera unda gvqondes xSirad game-
saberZneTSi, espaneTSi, germaniaSi, ruseTSi... da vumReri iavnanasa, Tvalxatula saqarTveloa,
sabWoTa kavSiris periodSi sul 4 fexburTeli TamaSobda iav nana nanasa... Cemi saqarTveloa. orebad mcire codvisadmi?
umaRles ligaSi _ saqarTvelos gareT, soWSi dabadebuli me saqarTvelos me saqarTvelos - aseTi codva axlosaa momakv-
slava (zaur) metreveli moskovis `torpedoSi~, moskovis siyvarulis wyaro mwyuria. siyvarulis wyaro mwyuria, dinebelTan. did codvas qvas
`spartakSi~ _ jemal silagaZe, aseve moskovSi _ anzor Cemi simdidre Cemi simdidre Sevadareb, mcires - qviSis namcecs.
kavazaSvili da baqos `neftianikSi~ _ WanWaleiSvili. nabadi da salamuria, nabadi da salamuria,
qarTvelebma sabWoTa kavSiris saukeTeso fexburTeli Cemi salamuria. Cemi salamuria... didi raodenobiT qviSa SeiZleba
slava metreveli moskovSi ver avitaneT da `dinamoSi~ salamuri lerwmisa, mival mivyvebi qvaze mZime iyos. magaliTad, tyu-
wamoviyvaneT. siyvaruli sevdisa, TeTri gzebiT me Cems farasa, ili ar aris momakvdinebeli cod-
dRes ki msoflios Cempionatebze, evropis Cempionatebze, mReris mxolod SenTvisa batkan xelSi myvan
ruseTis Cempionatebze, olimpiadebze erTmaneTs sxvadasxva qalav, qalav, mzeqala! da vumReri iavnanasa
va, magram Tu meordeba, adamians
qveynebis saxelebiT xvdebian qarTveli qali da mamakaci Seni saxe Tan mdevs yvelgana. iav nana nanasa... RmrTis madls arTmevs da sasje-
moWadrakeebi, moWidaveebi, mokriveebi, Zalosnebi, kalaT- mixeil mumlaZe lis Rirsia. (fs. 5,7)
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CEK[FY-CF,F JH,TKBFYB8 3CB,H'YT-CBWHEBCF4

orni Zmani
orni Zmani iyvnen. uxucess col-
Svili hyva da mrwemi ucolo iyo.
gaiyarnen Zmobisagan da erTad veRar
dadgnen. yovelive ganiyves, rac
hqondaT. ra puri gaiyves, erTis
ormo kalos aqaT iyo da meorisa
iqiT.
uxucesi moi parevdis Tavis ormo-
dama pursa da ZmisaSi Cayridis da
ityodis: me RmerTman coli da
Svili miboZa, momgebelni myvanan. mas
Zmas arara hyavs. ese misi iyos da
man Wamos.
da igi umrwemesi Zma moi parevdis
Tavisis ormodam da uxucesisaSi
Cahyridis: me marto var da Cemi
krosvordi
sarCo, sadac mival, advil ars; igi,
Zma wvrilSvil ars da mas ufrosi
undeba da misi iyos.
egre dahyves yovelni dReni da
RmerTman orTav ganumravla yove-
li da ara moaklda sazrdo maT.
- madlisa da keTilis saqme
RvTisagan ganmravldebiso.
- kacis guli viwroa da gana-
yofi ganayofis qiSpi iqmneba da
cxadad sikeTes ar uzams. mere
samadlo saqme malviTa sjobs da
RmerTic ufrosad Seuwiravs: kacman
Senze samsaxuri qmnas, ikvexdes da
zvaobdes - gewyineba!

nalbandi mgeli
erTi mgeli mouxda virsa, SeWmas lamoda. virma uTxra: vici, SemWam,
es anderZi amisrule: qaCaCSi lursmnis natexi damrCa da igi amoiReo!
mgelman piri mihyo, unda amoeRo. virma wixli hkra, kbilebi Caamtvria
mgelsa. viri veRar SeWama.

ormoSi xagdebuli mefe

orni mefeni Seibnen. erTman
mefeman meoresa sZlo, Sei pyra da
ormoSi Caagdo.
gamoxda xani. movida erTi
mecnieri kaci da eneba aRmoyvaneba
da gapareba misi. CasZaxa ormosa
Sigan da uTxra: kargad ara viqm,
rom gagaparoo?
man mefeman madli ubrZana.
TokiT amozidna da amoiyvana.
kidev uTxra: kargad ara vqmen,
rom amogiyvaneo?
mefeman kidev madli ubrZana.
mesamed kidev uTxra: kargada
vqmeno?
ewyina mefesa da daiZaxa: vina
xarT, am kacman gamaparao! movidnen
mcvelni, Sei pyrnes ornive.
hkiTxes mefesa: rad gaamJRavne
da rad ar gai pareo?
man Tqva: virem amomiyvanda, sayve-
duriT amavso, Tu Sin mimewia, kidec
damarCobda, aqav yofna virCiveo.
- awe kargi saqme ase unda qmnas,
an RmerTman daumadlos, da an kacman
mouwonos.
Tarazulad: 1. saSeni masala cementis duRabSi areuli RorRi da xreSi;
4. ra ewodeba fsiqologiaSi SegrZnebis organoebis grZnobierebis
cvalebadobas ama Tu im gaRizianebis zemoqmedebis Sedegad; 10. mecniereba
oratoruli xelovnebis Sesaxeb; 11. umaRlesi ganaTlebis mqone specialisti
soflis meurneobis dargSi; 13. ilia WavWavaZiseuli yaCaRi; 14. diuma Svilis
piesis personaJi, romlis saxelic ewoda sayvarlis xarjze mcxovreb
mamakacs; 15. uxucesTa sabWos kreba Zvel ruseTSi; 18. mowiwebis, moridebisa
da gaubedaobis sinonimi; 19. ra gvaris iyo `CrdiloeTis jadoqrad~ wodebuli
Sotlandieli mwerali? 22. Tanamedrove argentineli CogburTeli devid ...;
25. datotvili balaxi mcenare, romlis nayofisganac miiReba TeTri boWko,
umTavresi sarTavi masala safeiqro warmoebaSi; 26. saWirboroto da
mosagvarebeli problema aseTia; 29. soxumis afxazuri saxelwodeba;
30. kunZuli xmelTaSua zRvaSi, sadac gardaicvala juzepe garibaldi;
31. ukana tanidan nawlavebSi wylis Sesayvani mowyobiloba; 34. am adamianis

fytuljnt,b saxelobis premia nobelis premiis analogiuria informatikosebs Soris,

☺ ☺
_ ukacravad, centraluri saar-
Cevno komisiaa?
_ diax.
_ prezidentoba minda!
_ giJi xar?
_ eg aucilebeli moTxovnaa?
☺ da policiaSi miitans SoTa rus-
svani Caivlis fosta-telegrafis
SenobasTan da `saqarTvelos te-
lekoms~ reklama 8-10-s dainaxavs.
- vaa, cxris aTi wuTia.
☺ rom Rirs?
somexs eubnebian: _ va!!! xaCik, es
ra magari saaTi gikeTia xelze!
saidan?
xaCika: _ xo, raaaa!!! mamaCemma
momyida sikvdilis win.
☺ _ ra, Svilo? 4 lari? raT ginda
devid koperfildi Camova kaxeT-
Si, dadis mixos saxlis win da
unda, rom STabeWdileba moaxdinos,
magram is yuradRebas ar aqcevs.
mivida mixosTan da sigarets
sTxovs. mowevs erT Rers da fexebi
gauqreba. mixoze saerTod ar
imoqmeda.
mere kidev erT sigarets sTxovs,
mowevs da tani gauqreba, darCeba
mxolod Tavi. mixos isev hkidia.
bolos kidev erT Rers sTxovs.
mixo uyurebs da eubneba:
_ me ki ar menaneba, magram ver
xedav, rom gwyens?
☺ gamocdaze ekiTxebian:
svani Tevzaobs da Wiayelebi ga-
moeleva... adgeba qaRaldze dawers-
"Wiayela" da ankes gamoabams... cota
xanSi ankess amoiRebs da qaRaldze
daxvdeba warwera _ "Tevzi".
am adamians alani erqva, gvari? 35. msxvilfexa saqonlis mosaxseniebeli
sityva; 36. mimdinareoba biologiaSi, romelic yovel cocxal organizmSi
zebunebrivi Zalis arsebobas cnobs; 37. Weqisa da gvrgvinis Tanamdevi procesi
elvis dros.
Sveulad: 1. dabali wnevis kamera, iyeneben adamianis organizmze haeris
svani midis maRaziaSi da eubneba zeda fenebis Sesaswavlad; 2. tba Suagul andebSi, perusa da boliviis
moRunuli iaraRi gaaqvT? sazRvarTan; 3. henrik gibsenis piesis `Tojinebis saxlis~ mTavari personaJic
gamyidveli: _ rad ginda? da amerikeli momRerlis gvarad jonsis saxelic; 5. persevsis mier mokluli
_ mosaxvevSi kaci unda movkla. meduza gorgonas tanidan dabadebuli frTosani cxeni Zvel berZnul miTosSi;
☺ 6. sul arsebobs kameCebis oTxi saxeoba: induri, fili pinuri, kafruli anu
svani quCaSi 100-larians i povis afrikuli da ...; 7. ra erqva smoktunovskis - sabWoTa Teatrisa da kinos
cnobil msaxiobs; 8. Casvi gamotovebuli sityva edgar alan pos moTxrobis
saTaurSi `... morgis quCaze~; 9. Zveleburi inglisuri oqros moneta;
Tavelis pasporiti vi poveo. 12. `didi~ vin iyo ostap benderi ilfis da petrovis daxasiaTebiT?
☺ 16. sityva, romliTac leonid ilias Ze breJnevis zeobis xanas moixsenieben
megreli eubneba mezobels: yofil sabWoeTSi; 17. arakonieri qmedeba aseTic SeiZleba iyos, rogori?
_ biWo, geige, pianino 5 lari 20. ra sufevs xalxiT gaWedil avtobusSi, sadac nemsi ar Cavardeba;
21. deklamaciuri xasiaTis melodia, romelic uaxlovdeba Cveulebriv
_ ras ambob, magi tyuili iqneba! metyvelebas da, romelsac farTod iyeneben operaSi; 23. Zveli romaeli
poeti gaius valerius ... `braziani~ lirikuli poeziis Janris fuZemdebeli;
_ ki, tyuilia, mara, xom iafia?
24. zafxulis foTlovani tyeebi, sadac sWarbobs muryani; 27. `kmara~
☺ italiurad; 28. mglebis xrovaSi gazrdili biWuna rediard ki plingis
Svili eubneba dedas: `junglebis wignis~ mTavari personaJi; 32. mawvnisa da murabis Sesanaxi
_ dedi, dedi, 5 lari momeci. cilindruli WurWeli; 33. mdinare saqarTvelo-ruseTis oficialur
sazRvarze.
Sen 3 lari, 2 laric geyofa, aha
Sen 1 lari da 50 TeTri xurda
sudoku
momitane. VFHNBDB HSEKB
☺
WiWikia Camovarda xidan.
biWikia uyviris Soridan:
_ ha WiWikia fexi meitexe?
_ ara...
_ aba xeli?
_ ara....
_ aba, welSi gadatydi?
_ e, bujo, macale davecemi da
mere getyvi....
☺
svani marTvis mowmobas iRebs.
_ saburavi rom mogiZvres ras
izam?
_ siCqares movumateb. - es aris iaponuri krosvordi-Tavsatexi, nebismieri asakis adamianebis gonebis
_ ratom? saukeTeso savarjiSo. mis amosaxsnelad CasviT cifrebi 1-dan 9-mde ise, rom cifrebi
_ imitom rom borbals davewio. ar ganmeoreds rogorc horizontalur strqonebSi da vertikalur svetebSi, aseve
cxra danayofebian blokebSic.
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