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CREW: U.S. Department of Homeland Security: U.S. Customs and Border Protection: Regarding Border Fence: 8/10/2010 - OBP005057-OBP005060 Re_ Ped and Veh Fence Proto for USACE MATOC Industry Day (Final) 4

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Re: Pedestrian and Vehicle Fence Prototypes for USACE MATOC Industry Day Friday, January 18, 2008 11:11:18 AM

We're getting ready to take-off so I'll try and remember when we land. SDC has a few locations that might work for this at Borderfield State Park, I'll mention it. It is also under RVSS surveillance. ----- Original Message ----From: (b) (6) To: (b) (6) Sent: Fri Jan 18 11:03:13 2008 Subject: RE: Pedestrian and Vehicle Fence Prototypes for USACE MATOC Industry Day Let Loren know that I don't think TCA wants to be the "showroom" for the fence designs. We might need to look somewhere else. -----Original Message----From: (b) (6) Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 11:01 AM To: (b) (6) Subject: Re: Pedestrian and Vehicle Fence Prototypes for USACE MATOC Industry Day Another Bollard endorsement, EPT will be sorry! ----- Original Message ----From:(b) (6) To: (b) (6) Cc: (b) (6) Sent: Fri Jan 18 10:29:16 2008 Subject: RE: Pedestrian and Vehicle Fence Prototypes for USACE MATOC Industry Day

(b) , (6) I think there is a misunderstanding, sorry. They want to build these fence designs so that MATOCS, etc. can go there to see what the Border Patrol wants (across the SWB) not just in Tucson Sector. It would be a travel to place for Boeing and the Corps to host and display MATOCs, etc. You know how everyone likes to use Tucson as a "travel to" place. (especially in the winter)
TCA will only get the fence designs requested. Sorry for the confusion. Please advise on this request with that clarification. And I agree wholeheartedly on the bollard issue. But we honored our statement to the sectors to identify what they want and we get it for them the best we can! (b) (6) -----Original Message----From: (b) (6) Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 10:23 AM To: (b) (6) Cc: (b) (6) Subject: RE: Pedestrian and Vehicle Fence Prototypes for USACE MATOC Industry Day

(b) (6) Please see the response below from Tucson Sector. They are unable to accommodate the request. (b) (6) , Assistant Chief Headquarters Office of Border Patrol Southwest Border Division (b) (6) (Voice)

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-----Original Message----From: (b) (6) Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 10:07 AM To: (b) (6) Cc: (b) (6) Subject: RE: Pedestrian and Vehicle Fence Prototypes for USACE MATOC Industry Day Importance: High

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Tucson Sector can not adequately accommodate this request. We have all of our fencing selected. Ajo and Nogales went to the LA District ACE Meeting for their fence designs. Also FYI the bollard style fencing is the only way to go. We have that in Sasabe and Nogales west. It is much more formidable, stronger, and much more difficult to breach. In the long run the maintenance costs will be significantly less, and more importantly for officer safety you can see through it. It is easier to defend with PLS. It is better for water flow, and small animals can pass through. Thanks

(b) (6) Tucson Sector Assistant Chief Patrol Agent (b) (6) Office (b) (6) Cell
-----Original Message----From: (b) (6) Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 4:36 PM To: (b) (6) Cc: (b) (6) Subject: Fw: Pedestrian and Vehicle Fence Prototypes for USACE MATOC Industry Day Sir, Please see below request and let me know. Note the short turnaround request. ----- Original Message ----From: (b) (6) To: (b) (6) Cc: (b) (6) Sent: Thu Jan 17 15:27:11 2008 Subject: FW: Pedestrian and Vehicle Fence Prototypes for USACE MATOC Industry Day

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Can you ask Tucson Sector about the usage of the old Douglas Station for this fence prototype build? Please read the message below to get the whole idea. They want to know pretty quick but just let me know when you find out. Thanks.

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________________________________ From: (b) (6) Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 3:19 PM To: (b) (6) Cc: FLOSSMAN, LOREN W; (b) (6) Subject: Pedestrian and Vehicle Fence Prototypes for USACE MATOC Industry Day

Gents,

I do not know whose job jar this falls into, so I am shotgunning it out.

BACKGROUND: What we want to do is to have Boeing build prototype fence segments (probably two sections/panels are needed to show the connecting hardware) for all fence types in the toolbox (i.e., P1, P-2, P-3A-15, P-3B-15, PV-1, PV-2, VF-1 and VF-2). We want to have these constructed in time to support a USACE MATOC Industry Day we anticipate to take place in mid-to-late February. These prototypes need to be built exactly per the drawings (foundation and all).

BENEFITS: We envision these being used not only to support the MATOC Industry Day, but also to serve as a test bed for BP to study and test vulnerabilities (e.g. ease in climbing over, etc.). They can also serve as show and tell for VIPs wishing to view the various fence types without having to go out to the border. Another benefit of constructing these prototypes is that fence drawing flaws/omissions will surface thus giving us time to correct these flaws before actual construction takes place.

TASK: We would like to construct these prototypes in the Tucson Sector preferably on CBP property (ideally at a Station or the Sector HQ). We do not need a tremendous amount of real estate; however, we will need about a 200’x10’ piece of land to allow for enough room to install the eight different fence prototypes and have room to walk around and in-between each prototype. If for some reason we cannot find a location in Tucson to place these, we plan on using Yuma as a backup. We do not want to place these on Boeing property (e.g. at the Boeing warehouse in Tucson) for fears that Boeing will charge us a monthly leasing charge.

DEADLINE: We want to formally task Boeing by COB tomorrow (Friday, 18 Jan), so we need to determine/agree on a suitable location by 1500 on Friday, 18 Jan.

Any ideas where we can construct these? We were throwing around the idea of using the old Douglas Station, but would like your thoughts/recommendations. Can you reach out to the Sector and Station Chiefs for their thoughts?

Thanks in advance for working yet another last minute tasker!

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