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Quranic Proofs of Jesus µ Natural Death

Thursday, June 10, 2010

Proof #16: Inescapable death

Then We fashioned the sperm into a clot; then We fashioned the clot into a shapeless lump; then We fashioned bones out of this shapeless lump; then We clothed the bones with flesh; then We developed it into another creation. So blessed be Allah, the Best of creators. (23:15)

Then after that you must surely die. (23:16)

Here, the process of creation is described as it goes through its various stages in the womb. Once a complete human specimen is delivered, it begins its inevitable journey to its death. Jesus would have gone through the very same process and would have met his eventual and timely death in due course.

While Quran presents an overwhelming evidence of Jesus' natural death, yet there are many who remain insistent on his continued life. It is a difficult position to defend, which goes against nature as well as the Word of God. But the defenders of the indefensible are usually of the unyielding kind. When beaten on all fronts, at some point they take refuge in the last of all fall-back shelters²their very last line of defense: Fine, he is dead! but is it not in the power of God to bring him back to life? They just have to have him back! That question, mercifully, is also answered right here in the next verse:

Then on the Day of Resurrection will you be raised up. (23:17)

Yes he will be raised, but not here. It will be in the Hereafter, along with everyone else. There he will not be asked to save the politics of the Muslim ummah, fight wars for them or grant them global domination, while they idle about and watch the wholesale slaughter of the kuffar. Such macabre and cruel expectations are products of sick minds and will never be fulfilled. When he is raised, like everyone else, he will only be asked to give an account of himself, a glimpse of which is given in the Holy Quran and is discussed here. Posted by Asif Omer at 11:13 AM 15 comments Links to this post

Tuesday, June 08, 2010

Proof #15: Aging²a fact of life

It is Allah Who created you in a state of weakness, and after weakness gave strength; then after strength, caused weakness and old age. He creates what He pleases. He is the All-knowing, the All-Powerful. (30:55)

It is hard to believe that any one would wish for Jesus to still be alive and cursed with over 2000 years of aging. A normal lifespan becomes painful after only 90 or so years, 2000 years of age would be an impossible existence. The Holy Quran terms aging an incontrovertible principle applicable on all life forms, including Jesus. Age eventually brings with it a loss of physical and mental powers. It is unstoppable and irreversible. If something is alive, it ages. Born in a state of weakness, man begins to gains strength until reaching a physical and mental peak, then decline sets in progressively diminishing one's faculties, until in advanced old age existence becomes a sort of living death with ones dignity entirely compromised. Mercifully, most people die before reaching this terminal stage.

Jesus is a man, he may be a prophet but that does not make him exempt from this fact of life. Quran supports the contention that if he were still alive, his existence would be degraded to a state of mental death. Aging for 2000 years is perhaps the worst fate imaginable, and would not be suffered by a revered prophet of God. There is no precedent for what existence at that kind of age would be like, though we can imagine that such a person would be

incapable of rational, coherent thought. His brain would be physically destroyed and muscles atrophied to complete uselessness. Rather than pin the hopes of the entire ummah's rescue on such a person, would it not be better to let him just die?

Also see: Proof #6: Indignities of old age Proof #11: Unstoppable Ageing

Next Proof> Posted by Asif Omer at 4:56 PM 1 comments Links to this post

Saturday, April 03, 2010

Proof #14: The fallacy

And there is none among the People of the Book but will believe in it before his death; and on the Day of Ressurection, he (Jesus) shall be a witness against them (4:160)

This verse contains three implied references, two of which are hanging and therefore controversial. Depending on where they are turned this verse gives different meaning, of which some make sense and others less so.

Understanding #1

And there is none among the People of the Book but will believe in him (Jesus) before his (Jesus) death; «

Many scholars who believe in Jesus to be still alive, base their claim on this understanding. By pointing both references bihi and mauti-him to Jesus, they contend that each and every one of the People of the Book will believe in Jesus at some indeterminate time in future, and this will happen before Jesus¶ own death. The logic goes that since not all Jews have yet believed in Jesus, therefore, this verse mandates Jesus to be still alive. They say this event will occur after Jesus descends from the heavens.

he remains very much alive. who. or they can reject him and die. This is a key point.As to how will this come about? It is said that upon his return. in my opinion. they say. have placed a number of exclusions on it. What better way to ensure 100% participation than to kill 100% of those who do not? When Jesus is done with the holy massacre. The question is. All those who reject him after his reappearance are also excluded (they will be killed by him. the proponents of #1. will soon follow. Jesus will have successfully removed the primary obstacle to his own death and in due course will die. But until then. µbelief in Jesus¶. All Jews who have existed and died before Jesus¶ reappearance are excluded. Of course the first problem here is the genocide of the Jews. yet at other places it is also said that the world will be choke-full of disbelievers when it happens.e. obviously. But before going on an all-out offensive. of course). While it simply means all Jews. « Proponents of this translation say that in their death-throes Jews are forced by angles to believe in Jesus. It is also said that after the extermination of the world Jewry and subsequent death of Jesus. is mutilating a uniquely all-inclusive clause. that is the third exclusion. to nearly complete extermination of the Jews as a race. . it does not help the argument of Jesus' life or death either way. They are resigned. so let us focus on dialectical analysis and see if that leads somewhere. the only type of Jew left alive will be one who believes in him. So the term which connotes universal inclusion. This. he will give them a clear ultimatum: they can accept him and live. the calamity that will bring the world to an end. Let the reader be the judge. Understanding #2 And there is none among the People of the Book but will believe in him (Jesus) before his (person of the Book) death. The usage of the all inclusive in-min-ahlil-kitabi at the beginning of the verse requires that 100% of the Jews must participate in of what follows²here. Jesus will wage a war of extermination against the Jews. Who could blame them for that? Anyways. on earth. but that apparently is a non-issue with the proponents of this translation. And forthwith he will begin the killing process that will spare not a single rejecting Jew. gets progressively sliced such that only a very thin sliver of its intended targets remain its purview. In this verse it is applied to the People of the Book. Having accomplished this. past and present. if not quite comfortable. is impossible to verify. One would imagine that the Jews converted under duress would be particularly eager to revert the moment Jesus dies and the threat to their lives is lifted. if everyone ends up believing in Jesus and by extension in God and Muhammad. would be these non-believers? It turns out these wretched people will be those Jews and others who will go ³astray´ after Jesus¶ death. Trying to shame them into changing their minds is probably not going to work. qiyamah. This understanding does not allow even a single rejecting Jew to survive. However. the Jews. This. i. The expression in-min when applied to a group of people or things means each and everyone of them with no exclusions permitted.

Here is an alternate reading of the verse which clarifies its meaning. « The previous verses (4:158-159) state that though they claim to have killed Jesus. yet it is merely a conjecture about which certainty eludes them. Say. only in the afterlife will this matter be resolved for them.What it ³really´ means: Clearly. Holy is my Lord! I am not but a man sent as a messenger. the first translation is logically absurd and also in violation of Arabic usage. nor did they successfully crucify him. They neither managed to kill him. not withstanding it requires extreme cruelty on the Jews. And there is none among the People of the Book but will believe in it (conjecture expressed in 4:158) before his (own) death. and they are in a state of doubt about it. and not in the way they expect. a type of cruelty that would make Nazi era atrocities look quite tame by comparison. Next Proof> Posted by Asif Omer at 2:34 PM 1 comments Links to this post Sunday. 2007 Do Mortals travel to the Heavens? Or thou have a house of gold or thou ascend into heaven. and we will not believe in thy ascension until thou send down to us a book that we can read. The second translation is acceptable only in that it is neither provable nor disprovable. they tried to humiliate him. It means the state of doubt of Jews/Christians on this matter will remain as long as they live. whereas Allah exalted him. It is this conjecture to which the implied reference bihi turns in 4:160. December 02. (17:94) .

then this verse is sufficient to prove his supra-mortal status. Such facetious expectations are the hallmark of opponents of prophets.¶ meaning. he is told to respond that since his claim is no more than that of a mortal and a prophet. help the case of Christians. who disbelieved. he seeks to make himself superior to you. which is exactly the Christian claim. 2007 . And if Allah so willed. Allah is far above such absurdities. Those Muslims who believe in Jesus to have physically ascended to the heavens. said. Posted by Asif Omer at 5:02 PM 12 comments Links to this post Saturday. 'He (Noah) is only a man like yourselves. hence the demand is absurd. When the disbelievers made various demands of the Holy Prophetsaw. He could have surely sent down angels.This verse discounts the possibility that mortals ascend to the heavens and bring guidance from there. September 29. one being that he should ascend to the heavens and bring a book therefrom. If Jesus has indeed ascended to the heavens and will return some day. 2007 Would Jesus descend on the shoulders of angels? Those who expect Jesus to physically descend from the heavens while resting on shoulders of angels need to ponder on this verse. We have never heard of such a thing among our forefathers. µHoly is my Lord. who demand to see angles descending²in this case Noah's: And the chiefs of his people. in fact. (23:25) Posted by Asif Omer at 6:35 PM 0 comments Links to this post Sunday. January 07.

Walakin Shubbiha Lahum: the word Shubbiha in the text must be carefully studied. but only follow a conjecture. This means that it was he who was obscured and made to appear to them similar to someone else. the conclusive declaration is that whatever may have happened they certainly failed to kill him. The reader is reminded that the very begining of the verse refers to the Jewish boast that they had succeeded in murdering Jesus. That is the final conclusion. There was certainly great confusion as to what actually happened. Wise. This Jewish claim is firmly rejected by the Holy Quran. (4:158-159) The emphasis is upon their failure to murder Jesus by any means.' whereas they slew him not. Allah exalted him to Himself. That is why by the end of verse. This implies that it is not the act of crucifixion which is denied. 'We did kill the Messiah. So the verse continues to build the scenario of confusion and doubt. All else is nothing but conjecture. In conformity with the rules of grammer the implied pronoun in the word Shubbiha can refer to none other than Jesus Christ himself. nor crucified him. And Allah is Mighty. and those who differ therein are certainly in a state of doubt about it. son of Mary. What is denied is death by crucifixion. The context of the preceding verse would not permit the implied reference to any other than Jesus or alternatively it could refer to the incident in general. but he was made to appear to them like one crucified. . the Messenger of Allah. Jesus. On the contrary. Hence as Jesus was hung upon the cross he hung in the likeness of someone else. Evidently the denial is not that of crucifixion or apparent death thereupon but the denial is death by crucifixion. and they did not convert this conjecture into a certainty.Proof #13: The conjecture And their saying. they have no definite knowledge thereof.

peace be upon him. Neither of the parties were certain of the validity of their claims. the Christians and the Romans alike? (b) Where in the verse is the claim that Jesus was raised bodily to the heavens? All that is mentioned simply is that God exalted him to Himself. the . remained himself completely unaware of it. In fact they clearly expressed their doubts regarding the entire episode of his so-called death and they warned Pilate that in the likelihood of his survival he might reappear in public claiming that he had risen from the dead (Matthew 27:63-64). Moreover the entire tale is absolutely without foundation. As to the second question the weakness of the claim is apparent from the wording of the Holy Quran. For instance the belief of Jesus' death by crucifixion and later resurrection was not based on any tangible grounds but was merely conjectural. The word rafa'a means elevated. As to the first question the orthodox build a fantastic scenario according to which the fact of the crucifixion itself is not denied but is claimed that the person who was crucified was not Jesus but someone else who was given the likeness of Jesus by some angels at the command of God.e. mainly: (a) If Jesus was not crucified at all. It is to this that the last part of the verse under study refers. No scriptural evidence or evidence based on the traditions of the Holy Prophet (may peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) is ever presented to support this bizzare claim which simply adds more conjectural confusion. God rescued him by raising him bodily to somewhere in the heavens. Evidently this explanation creates only more problems than it solves. when it says wa innalladhina.. It is as if this explanation of the verse dawned only upon the medieval scholars while the Messenger of God. Whenever Allah elevates a person the elevation always refers to the status of the person.. Hence the doubt and conjectures were about the identity of the person who was crucified. As such he should be living somewhere in space in the same corporeal form that he possessed prior to the attempt of his crucifixion. Certainly those who differ about it (or about him as to what actually befell him) were themselves in doubt. is the entire history of crucifixion emphatically denied and the whole episode just a fiction or delusion suffered by the Jews. instead of letting him die upon the cross. Bal rafa'ahullahu ilaihi: the majority of orthodox Muslims infer from this part of the verse that the connotation of Bal refers to the act of crucifixion i. In fact it is impossible to translate this verse in any way other than the said meaning i. Likewise the Jewish claim of Jesus' death upon the cross was no less conjectural. never to his body. This interpretation raises many difficult questions.e.If the word Shubbiha refers to the incident as such. Hence their appeal to Pilate for the possession of Jesus' body. this would point to the diverging claims of the two disputing parties as to what had happened.

The verse declares that Allah elevated Jesus to himself. there suddenly descends Our decree at night or during the day. the connotation on the contrary refers to the Jewish claim of the accursed death of Jesus. Obviously the opposite of curse is nearness to God. Evidently no point in space of the heavens is mentioned to which Allah raised him.1 1. It continues to be so until the earth blossoms forth in full bloom and ripens into loveliness²then while those who possess it deem themselves supreme over it. a bodily movement is impossible and inconceivable. Next Proof> Posted by Asif Omer at 6:00 PM 4 comments Links to this post Proof #12: The inevitable decline The example of life on earth is like that of water that We cause to descend from heaven. Thus do we expound our Signs for a people who reflect. According to the Ahmadiyya understanding of this verse. So when someone is said to be raised to Him. Then with it mingles the vegetation of the earth of which both the people and the cattle partake. (10:25) . notes under verse 4:158.elevation of spiritual station. The Holy Quran translated by Maulvi Sher Ali published by Islam Internation Publication Ltd 2006. 159. No place in heaven or earth is empty of Allah's presence. Then We render it a field that is mown down as if it had not existed the day before. He raised him to Himself while He was present where Jesus was.

his physical and mental faculties would be in a state of such advanced decrepitude that his existence would be utterly meaningless. Once having reached physical maturity and prime. However. That is the only form of life which this verse would allow him: a life that is indistinguishable from death itself. life blossoms to a full bloom and then withers away and dies. Like vegetation. November 26. 2006 Proof #11: Unstoppable Ageing And him whom We grant long life²We revert him to a weak state in creation. then according to the verdict of this verse. he would have steadily aged and grown weaker over the years before becoming an old man. His fate could be no different to any other human being. Is Jesus exempt from the certainty of this universal law? Next Proof> Posted by Asif Omer at 4:41 PM 1 comments Links to this post Sunday.Another expression of the same universal law that covers all life. Jesus would be subject to its sanction just like anyone else. Next Proof> Posted by Asif Omer at 2:52 PM 5 comments Links to this post Proof #10: Life limited to the terrestrial . if we are to believe that he is still alive as he incredibly steps into the third millennium of his life. Will they not then understand? (36:69) more translations This verse describes the process of ageing as an unstoppable natural phenomenon from which no man is exempt. Not long after that he would have met his death. There is nothing remarkable in that.

And We said: µGo forth. leaving behind the physical body to decay. his astral body or the soul departs and joins the dead in the celestial world. anybody else going up to the heavens alive.But Satan caused them both to slip by means of it and drove them out of the state in which they were. It is like a prison with death being the only possible avenue of escape. As long as he lives. for that matter. This reference is from Sahih Bukhari: . man's corporeal existence is to remain confined to the terrestrial world. Holy Prophetsaw in his special vision known as the Mairaj. and for you there is an abode in the earth and a provision for a time. Man is born in the mundane. lives in the mundane and is going to die in the mundane. Once a person dies. saw him in the Second Heavens accompanied by Prophet Yahya.¶ (2:37) more translations This verse clearly fixes earth as the place of life-long abode for man. disintegrate and become fodder for the lesser creatures²µdust to dust¶. in other words. some of you are enemies of others. This verse rejects the idea of Jesus or.

Next Proof> Posted by Asif Omer at 7:54 AM 1 comments Links to this post Saturday.¶ Then Gabriel ascended with me till we reached the second heaven. It is a deeply damaging belief.. Adam. Muslims would be well-advised to reject the idea of a living Jesus. µThis is your father. pay him your greetings. which is contrary to Tauheed and is helpful to Christians in their claimed divinity and sonship of Jesus.´ This evidence is also problematic for a living Jesus. µYou are welcomed. pay them your greetings.¶ So I greeted them and both of them returned my greetings and said.. I saw Adam there. µThese are John and Jesus. What is he doing among the dead? Such absurd intermixing of the living and the dead is intellectually indefensible and exposes religion to ridicule.. November 25. Gabriel said to me. O' pious son and pious Prophetsaw.. an idea which grants him a supra-human status and elevates him above the creation and encroaching upon divinity.¶ So I greeted him and he returned the greeting to me and said. Gabriel said to me.. there I saw John and Jesus who were cousins to each other.. 2006 ..Narrated by Malik bin Sasaa that the Holy Prophetsaw said: ³while I was lying in the Kaaba .. O' pious brother and pious Prophetsaw. µYou are welcomed. and Gabriel set out with me till we reached the nearest heaven .

and you shall not be questioned as to what they did. these momentous and unprecedented events with enormous consequences for himself and the rest of the humanity would be quite at par with his birth. and peace there will be on me the day I shall die. 2006 Proof #8: It's curtains for earlier prophets Those are a people that have passed away. numerous verses assert his death as having already occurred. This verse declares the prophets of the bygone days all dead. for them is what they earned. yet Allah makes no mention of it here or anywhere else in the Holy Quran. (2:135) more translations The preceding verses mention a number of prophets.¶¶ (19:34) more translations Here Jesus refers to three principal events of his existence: the day of his birth. the day of his death and his resurrection on the Day of Judgement. On the contrary. One would expect that in addition to these three events his purported ascent and the subsequent descent in the Latter days would be important enough to merit a mention. while not a single verse speaks of his corporeal ascent to the heavens.Proof #9: Synopsis of Jesus' life µAnd peace was on me the day I was born. and the day I shall be raised up to life again. There is a . November 04. One can only conclude that it is a figment of some people's imagination that is unequivocally rejected by the Holy Quran. meaning their accounts are closed and their actions have come to an end. and for you shall be what you earn. Next Proof> Posted by Asif Omer at 3:49 PM 5 comments Links to this post Saturday. death and ressurrection. For them is what they earned. yet we find them conspicously absent. If real. his future descent nor his continued survival. some directly and others indirectly.

No one could have existed. If then thou shouldst die. All spiritual blessings and ranks now flow through his person. is a rank insult and is tantamount to breaking that seal. Here if then can only mean that the Holy Prophet will experience death because those before him all experienced death in the . have all died. before the Holy Prophet. Next Proof> Posted by Asif Omer at 7:22 PM 2 comments Links to this post Wednesday. whereas the return of an earlier prophet to rescue his mission. What follows lays bare the intent of the verse. Through his power of spiritual purification he is capable of raising such souls from among his own people as would help him in his mission. some of whom may even reach the status of a prophet while staying subservient to him. a prophet who received nothing by way of spiritual food from him. 2006 Proof #7: On unnatural lifespans We granted not everlasting life to any human being before thee. it is not their problem anymore. or not existed for that matter. That is entirely consistent with his status of Khataman Nabiyeen. the birth of the Holy Prophet. Earlier prophets have no unfinished business left and hence there is no need to keep any of them unnaturally alive in the recesses of the heavens. the Seal of the Prophets. In other words. Once a limit is put on the arrow of time. eternity stands breached since it cannot exist in bounded space. Those who were born before the Holy Prophet and can reasonably be expected to have died. shall they live here for ever? Every soul shall taste of death.finality and closure as far as their actions are concerned. November 01. may peace and blessing of Allah be upon him. since eternity cannot be squeezed ³before´ any event in time. in eternity. so also there is a separation between us and them. (21:35-36) more translations In simple idiomatic terms this verse declares that no one before the Holy Prophetsaw was granted a life span longer than common human experience such that he or she still lives. Holy Prophetsaw is in no need of help from a prophet sent to another people. It builds a conclusion on the opening statement and puts the question: ³If then you should die´. The task of spreading the message of God is in the safe and capable hands of the Holy Prophet of Islam. in this case. The word everlasting does not mean eternal. This verse is in fact a corollary of Holy Prophet Muhammadsaw being the Khataman Nabiyeen.

From his perspective. There is another fundamental problem with the contention that everlasting means eternal. eternity has not yet expired. Mentally they start regressing and become more and more like a child. Holy Prophet can only be a witness to unusual life spans. Higher order mental activity in the cerebrum slows and brain function becomes limited to performing its . eternity is unreachable and. which is also the conclusion of this verse.normal course. October 26. two. he is mortal. accident or harm. and there are others who are driven to the worst part of life with the result that they knew nothing after having had knowledge (22:6) more translations In this verse Allah divides people into two groups in relation to how long they live: y The first group covers the majority of mankind: those who die before they reach old age. They die prematurely in the sense that by design they could have lived longer had they not suffered some illness. wretched existence. people reach the natural limits of their life and progressively lose command over their faculties as they waste from a state of life towards a state of death. 2006 Proof #6: Indignities of old age And there are some of you who are caused to die prematurely. y In the second group. In this verse Allah calls it the ³worst´ part of life. In that case a question is being posed to the Holy Prophet which he is not capable of answering. where it is reduced to a loathsome. Projecting this scenario to the future does not help either for two reasons: one. Jesusas who preceded the Holy Prophetsaw by about 600 years is firmly in the crosshairs of this verse and cannot possibly survive its clear verdict. Further deterioration causes them to forget their life experience. nor it ever can expire for him or anyone else. So it is impossible for him to be a judge of someone ³before him´ being still alive when eternity µhappens¶. and that is exactly what is being denied here. Next Proof> Posted by Asif Omer at 11:41 AM 0 comments Links to this post Thursday.

³Live for ever´ should not be taken too literally. death encroaches and claims its victim who was long gone anyway. nor were they to live for ever. Either he has already met his death at its appointed and appropriate hour some two thousand years ago. i.primordial duty of regulating breathing and heart beat. There remains no residual memory. One way to understand this is to ask the question if a million year lifespan would run afoul of this verse? Or would a thousand? Clearly both would. so according to this verse. emotion or feeling. his corporeal existence must have terminated. If Jesus . Finally and mercifully. Allah the Creator Who knows the design of man. It further states that Prophets do not live for ever. In view of this it is clear that as far as the course of life is concerned. a human.e. In that state. The fact is that any lifespan that could be classed as unnatural or aberrantly extended is disallowed here. 2006 Proof #5: Prophets need to eat to live And We did not give them bodies that ate no food. For those who still do not perish. An argument of this nature that limits itself only to negation of eternity carries little meaning. or. come eternity no one will be around to check if anyone is still surviving. his continued existence cannot possibly be of any benefit to himself or to the mankind. he is still alive and therefore subject to the inescapable ravages of time such that his constitution would have deteriorated to a degree where it would be immaterial whether he lives or does not live. Next Proof> Posted by Asif Omer at 8:15 PM 6 comments Links to this post Sunday. Jesusas. They do not live for ever. Eternity is abstract and unfathomable. (21:9) more translations This verse makes the following statements about prophets: y y They cannot survive without food. their mind becomes a blank slate. he has died. divides mankind into these two groups. October 22. Since he does not eat anymore. has no choice but to fall into one or the other group. It is mentioned in 5:76 that Jesus used to eat food.

Among all those who are ³called upon instead of Allah´. This line of reasoning. (22:74) It says that it is not in the power of false gods to create a creature as insignificant as a fly. indeed. He has without doubt the highest number of followers. And since to permit remains Allah's prerogative. Some Muslims. And if the fly should snatch away anything from them. since a bird is a higher order creature than a fly. September 23. admittedly . though they should all combine together for the purpose. This verse strikes at the heart of that notion and completely discounts the possibility. If the ability to create a fly confers godhead. misunderstanding the metaphorical expression used in 3:50. even more so. it would make him some 2000 years old! Needless to say. It distinguishes Him from His creation and is a power He is loathe to share with anyone else. that is unnatural for an ordinary person as well as a prophet.is still alive. believe that Jesusas created birds. On the one hand we are told that only Allah creates life. unfortunately. 2006 Did Jesus create birds? Not according to this verse: Surely those on whom you call upon instead of Allah cannot create even a fly. Jesus occupies a position of distinction. If it is accepted that he could create. living birds of flesh and blood. then the argument of 22:74 is defeated in its first and most important test case. we are told of certain people. hence there is no problem and Unity of Godhead remains intact. are both the seeker and the sought. with or without God's permission. But on the other. it is argued that Jesus could create birds and could also bring dead people back to life only with the permission of Allah. creation of a bird would undoubtedly do the same. Weak. Next Proof> Posted by Asif Omer at 8:09 PM 1 comments Links to this post Saturday. they cannot recover it therefrom. In defense of literal interpretation of 3:50. weakens the argument in the verse above.

The birds with their wings outspread has to be the most noble of all creation that praise Allah. all who are in the heavens and the earth celebrate. animate and inanimate are accounted for in all who are in the heavens and the earth. who have been granted this ability. what is? Meaning of Birds in the Quran There is no contradiction in the Holy Quran. Whether such people were pious or wicked. If this is not shirk. What conclusion is a neutral observer to draw from this? There can be only one: that there are more than one entities which create life. which can be none other than the spiritual man.pious. September 21. whatever happened to the birds created by Jesus? Such birds must have reproduced and spread. and so do the birds with their wings outspread? (24:42) Regular birds along with the rest of God's creation. If true. God would stand accused of thoroughly confusing the issue and making the matter of finding the One True God impossibly difficult for the seeker of truth. Then again. By delegating His ability to create life. Posted by Asif Omer at 5:10 PM 0 comments Links to this post Thursday. by Jesus or by both together. 2006 . See the following: Seest thou not that it is Allah Whose praises. The term 'birds' is a metaphor for people who attain great spiritual heights. it makes no difference. Which would lead us to believe there are two types of birds in the world: ones created by Allah and others created by Jesus. such delegation of ability to create life by God to any of His creation would entirely compromise the Unity of Godhead. More likely these two types have intermixed such that it is impossible to say with certainty if a particular bird is wholly created by Allah. How is to be ascertained which of the ancients created life with Allah's leave and which created without it? In this circumstance there would be no justification in condemning those who associate partners with Allah. worthy of a special and honored mention. prophet or non-prophet.

Jesus' Destination of Refuge And We made the son of Mary and his mother a Sign. This Quranic verse describes Kashmir as ³elevated land of valleys and springs of running water. Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad's book: Jesus in India (complete text) BBC Documentary: Did Jesus Die on the Cross? Tomb of Jesus Website Mary's Tomb Posted by Asif Omer at 6:49 PM 4 comments Links to this post Tuesday. where he preached among the Jews who had settled there after their deliverance from the bondage of Nebuchadnezzar. This area of Pakistan is in the foothills of the Himalayas at the threshold of the Kashmir Valley. Here are some useful links on this subject. It traces Jesus' journey through Nasibus. September 12. Locals call the tomb Mai Mari da Asthan i. His tomb can be visited even today and is known as the resting place of Prophet Yuz Asaf.e. is said to be buried in the Pakistani town of Murree. where her tomb is at a location known as Pindi Point. where he lived a long and fruitful life preaching to the dispersed Jewish tribes which had settled there earlier. Persia. and gave them shelter on an elevated land of green valleys and springs of running water. (23:51) After surviving the crucifixion Jesusas left the land of his persecutors and traveled East in search of the lost tribes of Israel. It is the seminal work on this subject. Resting Place of Mother Mary.´ Mary. He eventually reached Kashmir. Afghanistan and finally Kashmir. 2006 Proof #4: Prophets before Muhammad have all died . his mother. He is buried in the Khanyar quarter of Srinagar. The first of these is the book ³Jesus in India´ by Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of Qadian (1835-1908). (Jesus the Gatherer).

To help understand why.And Muhammad is but a messenger. which can only mean it does not exist. If Jesusas. But the statement defaults on mentioning any of these and arbitrarily . without omission. There is no third possibility mentioned. If then he dies or is slain. so also will this prophet die. Verily all Messengers have passed away before him. Some argue that in addition to death. or some other atypical departure. consider the following similarly constructed statement. For µdeath¶ the Arabic expression khalat has been used. will you turn back on your heels? Hence the two ways in which a prophet can pass away are either he dies a natural death or he is slain. Otherwise this verse would be incomplete and factually incorrect. this statement needs to enumerate. was still alive then neither of these arguments would hold. Arabic usage of khalat would resist this interpretation but anyhow presently we will not get into lexical discussion. then those should also have been listed here. It opens with the statement that prophets before Muhammadsaw have all died. khalat could also mean just about any manner of departing including bodily ascending to the heaven. This analogy is drawn from cricket: If Javed is neither bold nor caught. fourth or fifth manner in which prophets had passed away in the past. would you doubt he is still playing? To be complete. or he could been out handling the ball. This verse spares us that trouble as it internally provides a complete translation of this word. Otherwise it is defective and is of no help in telling us anything about Javed and his innings. The construct used here is similar to that used in 5:76 (discussed earlier). all ways of completion of innings. which is not expected of the Word of Allah. If it is assumed there were a third. It says: If then he dies or is slain. while still alive. or he could have simply exceeded the allotted time for the match. Anyone with basic knowledge of the laws of cricket knows that Javed's innings could have been completed in a number of other ways. will you turn back on your heels? (3:145) more translations Two points are being made here with reference to the Holy Prophetsaw: y Since prophets before him have all died. y If it were necessary for prophets to live forever then show us a single instance from among earlier prophets who is still alive. which means to pass away. who came some six hundred years before the Holy Prophetsaw. and his death would not be indicative of a defect in his prophethood. For example he could have been out hit-wicket. run out.

In the translation of the verse above. If any prophet had passed away by ascending to heaven then it could not have been excluded from mention here. Similarly the companions of the Holy Prophetsaw did not hold discussions on the death of Moses. No one. The following narrative is taken from Sahih Bukhari: . He was not yet buried and the companions were in a highly emotional state. Or we could declare this statement to be incomplete and defective. is hardly engaged upon by the sane. Consensus of the Companions Is there any hadith which speaks of the companions discussing and asserting Jesus' death one way or another? The problem in finding such a hadith is that arguments over death of people long gone. being alive or dead. to say the least. whether it occurred or not. It is important to explain this inclusion lest someone thinks of it as a dishonest addition to strengthen own argument. There is however one remarkable incident which leaves little doubt as to where they stood on the matter of death of all prophets including Jesus. Absence of any hadith to this effect in fact points to Jesus' death and not his life. this verse would be saying that Holy Prophet is sure to die because some prophets before him also died. Therefore. among the prophets he is nearest in time to Hazrat Muhammadsaw and therefore his fate needs to be accounted for before anyone else's. omission asserts impossibility. It would be a poor reflection on someone's intelligence to needlessly labour the point that George Washington has died. Adam and neither did they discuss the dispostion of Jesus simply because they believed him to have died and there was no reason to question it such that it became a topic of interest. or even whether he will ever complete his innings. universal quantifier ³all´ has been inserted before ³Messengers´. If all is replaced with the alternate some. Isaac. which is just not the case. which tells us that his disposition is not a subject of interest or argument and all agree that he has died. It is true that ³all´ does not appear in the Arabic text however its inclusion is implied in view of the conclusion being drawn. Clearly Jesus is very much in mind when reading this verse because. Clearly the conclusion does not follow the premise. In fact it tells us nothing. That incident occurred after the death of the Holy Prophetsaw. That conclusion can only be reasonably reached if the opening premise applied to all prophets. he could only have died a natural death. many refusing to believe his death even though they could see his body lying in front of them. after all. or is playing. Therefore. If only some died then why on that basis should Muhammadsaw die? Replacing all with some will only make sense if the argument being made were that Muhammadsaw may or may not die. Abraham. Noah.limits itself to only two. Anyone with basic knowledge of cricket has no choice but to opt for the latter. This statement fails to inform us whether Javed is out. In 4:158 it is stated he was not slain. So we are left with the following choices: we could insist there are only two ways of completing innings²notwithstanding laws of cricket and accounts of countless matches. the first president of the United States. for example. which is the prediction of Muhammad¶ssaw death and its certainty of occurrence. To attribute a defective statement like this to the Holy Quran is problematic. in the year 2006 holds discussion forums on George Washington.

If then he dies or is slain. This verse was sufficient to prove to all present that Muhammadsaw had passed away like the earlier prophets. Allah has said that Muhammadsaw is but a messenger. will you turn back on your heels? Those among you who turn back on their heels will not harm Allah a whit and Allah will reward those who are thankful. He then gathered everyone in the Masjid-al-Nabwi and recited 3:145 (the verse under discussion).Abdullah bin Abbas narrates that when Abu Bakr arrived Umar was addressing the people. Next Proof> Posted by Asif Omer at 6:47 PM 2 comments Links to this post . ³Those amongst you who worshipped Muhammadsaw should know that Muhammadsaw has died. On the contrary no one uttered a word of protest and all concluded on the authority of this verse that Muhammadsaw had died like prophets before him. Umar went weak in the knees and collapsed. If khalat did not mean death. who then said. Abu Bakrra on learning of these disturbing developments removed the covering from Holy Prophet'ssaw face. and said that surely Allah would not subject him to two deaths. Umar could not have been convinced and would have protested and brought up the case of Jesus. Verily all Messengers have passed away before him. ³Oµ Umar sit down. With great wisdom Abu Bakr had brought the delicate situation under control.´ In another narration it said that Umarra was in such an agitated state that with his sword drawn he promised to strike down anyone who said that the Holy Prophetsaw had died. Those who were in doubt realized what had come to pass. kissed his forehead.´ Umar did not sit but people left him and turned thier attention towards Abu Bakr. If it was the general belief that even one among the earlier prophets was still alive surely Abu Bakr's reasoning would have failed. It is said that it felt like this verse was being revealed for the first time. He understood that Holy Prophetsaw was not going to return. Those who worshipped Allah should be satisfied that Allah is alive and is impervious to suffering death. He said.

son of Mary. surely. the conclusion is self-evident and need not be explicitly stated in the verse itself: that Jesus has passed away as well. Given this. So it must be accepted that the conclusion is valid. Argument 2 . And his mother was a truthful woman. messengers before him have passed away. Syllogism dictates that Henry is white. son of Mary. But the question is why did Allah choose a well known tool of reasoning if the conclusion was to be invalid? Is it to mislead the reader. So before proceeding. which need not be expressed but is assumed deductible from the premises. Messengers like unto him had indeed passed away before him. They both used to eat food. a word or two about Syllogism may be appropriate. Messengers before Jesus have passed away. Jesus and his mother used to eat food i. c of logic. As in: All trains are long. It may be argued that with syllogism it is possible to reach an invalid conclusion despite individual propositions being independantly true. (5:76) more translations This verse makes the following assertions: y y Jesus was a messenger. Jesus is indeed dead like all prophets before him. In this verse that middle term is Rusool (messenger) connecting the two propositions: 1. therefore some buses are trains. was only a Messenger.e. The Messiah. b. was only a messenger and 2. Henry is a swan.Proof #3: Jesus fate no different to earlier prophets The Messiah. they don¶t anymore. some buses are long. one may ask? That is inconceivable. For example if it is said: All swans are white. It is a form of reasoning in which a conclusion is drawn from two given or assumed propositions (premises): a common or middle term is present in the two premises but not in the conclusion. In this verse taken from the chapter Al-Maidah both statements independently assert Jesus¶ death. Argument 1 The first part of this verse is a classic syllogistic construct. like a. This is very much a reasoning primitive.

Al-Maidah:76 stands in the way of Jesus eating anything. If there was someone who deserved to live and to return. the first and the last´. On one hand Ummah stands to lose the integrity of the Quran and on the other a starving man in need of food! Of course the Ummah cannot lose the Quran. going to descend from the heavens. for food to break his fast. It would be Jesus who would save the ummah of the Holy Prophet from destruction. even partially. There is not much wiggle room in interpreting this verse another way. the ulema. Since both mother and the son have been joined together in a single statement. Muhammadsaw. nor were they to live for ever. her encounter with death. That Jesus and his mother used to eat food. the ulema will present him with verse 76 from Al-Maidah. As far as Jesus is concerned he is not indebted to the Holy Prophet in any manner whatsoever. On the other hand. And in absence of any mention of his eating food in the future the ulema find themselves duty bound to deny him much deserved hospitality. How can it be that our Holy Master lies buried while a Bani-Israeli prophet lives in the heaven? It is an abomination to consider that a prophet who received nothing by way of spiritual training from the Holy Prophet would get to spiritually rejuvenate Holy Prophet¶s ummah in the later days. How surprised he will be when instead of laying a sumptuous dinner in his honour. Holy Prophet would find himself greatly indebted to him. but is somehow surviving: And we did not give them (Messengers) bodies that ate no food. So Jesus would have to save the world on an empty stomach. indisputably. Jesus will be told that according to the Holy Quran he used to eat food. With little reflection it can become amply clear that the belief in a living Jesusas is in fact a grave insult to the person of our Holy Master. That avenue of escape is also blocked by the Quran. if the scenario of Jesus¶ return is true. indeed. After a fast of over two thousand years he would of course be looking forward to eating something. extended from Jesus to the Holy Prophet. would prove correct in a much larger context than its original import. which is his own encounter with death. yet it may be argued that it is possible for Jesus to have stopped eating but be still alive by some special decree of God. which was limited to certain people and was . The following lays to rest the notion that Jesus is sitting hungry in the fourth heaven. So Jesus's declartion in the New Testament that ³I am the Alpha and the Omega. which the Holy Prophet will have no way of returning. Envisage the day of his return. one day. it had to be Muhammadsaw. A generous favor. Remember that Jesus is not a spiritual pupil of the Holy Prophet. It can only be deduced that Jesus has stopped eating for the same reason. Once Quran decides that Jesus dies there is no way for him to survive. (21:9) Let us assume that Jesus is still alive and is. No amount of protestations from Jesus will be allowed to prevail. And would perhaps request his hosts. The reason why his mother stopped eating is.The above conclusion is further supported by what follows in the same verse.

. This narration rules out the possibility that the µson of Mary¶ who is to come is the old Jesus. needs to be clarified. Jesus would indisputably emerge as the ultimate savior. He used the words Imamokum Minkum: that he will be ³your imam from amongst you´. 61:7). ³Your Imam from amongst you´ Holy Prophetsaw said that Issa (Jesus) to come will be from within the Ummah. not just the Children of Israel.confined to that period in time. this concept is nipped in the bud by the Holy Quran with its unequivocal declaration that Jesus has died. Jesus is simply not qualified to address the Muslims and a global audience. The fact that there was Muhammadsaw somewhere between the first and second appearance of Jesus. The Holy Quran uses it in relation to the creation of clothing. May his soul rest in peace. It happens to be one of the principal stumbling blocks for those who approach this issue with pre-conceived notions. Each of which is described as having µdescended¶ and each has. it would be Jesus alone who would save the world. would only be a footnote in religious history. without doubt. this expression is used to signify high importance. which means µto descend¶. Whereas Jesus was a Bani-Israeli from the people of Moses. This hadith is sourced from Bukhari and Muslim and is therefore of the highest reliability: Abu Huraira narrates that the Holy Prophetsaw said that (O Muslims!) how would you feel when son of Mary will descend amongst you and he will be your imam from amongst you. The one to come and lead the Muslims will be from amongst them. the people of Muhammadsaw. In the Holy Quran his charter is described as limited to a particular race: the Children of Israel (see 3:50. usefulness or glory. But. would be justified in refusing his leadership. Muslims on the authority of the Holy Quran. A prophet sent to the Children of Israel would be an outsider to the Muslims. iron and cattle (see 7:27. Ultimately. Also the word nazala. There is no escaping this sad conclusion for those who accept and await the literal reappearance of Jesus as part of their belief system. If he were to return in person. thankfully and mercifully. 57:26 and 39:7). In Arabic. Muslims being the followers of the Universal Prophet Muhammadsaw come from all races of the world.

and a whole host of other indicators are all succintly conveyed by naming him Jesus. He would entirely owe his spiritual excellence to the Holy Prophet and all his victories and achievements would in fact be victories of the Holy Prophetsaw. His advent would be a source of great blessing for the Muslims. Furthermore. Next Proof> Posted by Asif Omer at 5:56 PM 16 comments Links to this post Proof #2: God's promise to Jesus . a whole gamut of clues and signs is provided which would prove invaluable in his identification when he comes. would be from amongst them.played a critical role in the progress of human civilization. That beautifully completes the analogy between Muhammadsaw and Moses. He would be born within the Ummah. Therefore µdescending¶ of the messiah only signifies his high status and the critical role he would play in bringing about the rejuvenation of Islam. The question arises as to why has he been called Jesus? Why not by some other name? To understand this one needs to be attuned to the language of scriptures and prophets. which is always high in metaphors and analogies especially when it comes to prophecies. Since the Holy Prophet Muhammadsaw was a prophet like Moses therefore the messiah who was to appear among his people has been given the same name as the messiah who came to the people of Moses. even though he would be a completely different person. that messiah. his circumstances. the saviour of the people of Muhammadsaw. the state of the Muslims of his time. In conclusion. His time of coming. and is metaphorically given the name Jesus son of Mary to indicate his remarkable similarity with that prophet. The same word is used in relation to the Holy Prophetsaw himself (see 65:11-12)! Of course no one understands it to mean that the Holy Prophet descended from the heavens. in naming him Jesus.

and will place those who follow thee above those who deny thee. until the Day of Resurrection. it requires that God be not present at point A. Tawaffi has already been discussed in Proof 1. which according to the Old Testament is an accursed death (Deut 18:20. Could this mean that Jesus has been physically raised to the heaven? Remember that this verse only talks of Jesus being raised towards God. which is quite contrary to being raised to the heaven. from point A to point B. Rafioka Illayya. means 'raise thee to Myself'. one in which He shall cause Jesus to die (Mutawaffika). If God is present at all points in the Universe then it is impossible for Jesus to physically move in His direction. for point B to be distinct from point A. and will clear thee of the charges of those who disbelieve. At best Jesus can be allowed to remain physically stationary. because only then does a move towards point B makes any sense. Moreover. and I will judge between you concerning that wherein you differ (3:56) more translations This is an important verse in this debate. Not only that. requires a physical existence of God. The beginning of this verse mention two acts of God. Allah absolves him of that ignominy and adjudges his fate to have been exactly the opposite: a noble death and elevation of spiritual rank.O Jesus Indeed I will cause thee to die and exalt thee to Myself. and the other where he shall raise Jesus to Himself (Rafioka Illayya). such that the body of Jesus actually makes a movement in a certain direction. For Jesus to physically move in the direction of God. Next Proof> Posted by Asif Omer at 5:48 PM 4 comments Links to this post Proof #1: Jesus' own testimony on the Judgement Day . Then to Me shall be your return. one thing is certain that it comes after Mutawaffika. The other word of significance here is Rafa. it cannot mean a physical ascension. Jesus will die before he is raised. For one. The alternative and more meaningful reading is that µrafioka¶ means elevation of spritual rank. which literally means 'to raise'. It clearly means Death. Let us explore a little bit as to what could 'raising towards God' may mean. since Jesus is alleged to have died on the cross. 21:22-23). quoted by both sides of the argument. Whatever may be the meaning of Rafioka Illayya.

my Lord and your Lord.¶ And I was a witness over them as long as I remained among them. His absence from among his people is preceded by the state of Tawaffi. (5:118) more translations This dialogue takes place between God and Jesus on the Judgement Day when he is asked if he gave his followers the belief of his own and his mother¶s divinity. Argument 2: According to this verse. The question is whether Jesus is present among his people or is he absent from his people? If he is not among his people then the state of Tawaffi has surely preceded this state of absence. Thou hast been the Watcher over them. Meaning of Tawaffi This word has been used twenty four times in the Holy Quran. The doctrine of Jesus' ³Sonship´ as a part of the Holy Trinity is a well established fact among Christians. but since Thou didst cause me to die. He responds in the negative and begs complete ignorance on what happened after his death. one in which he was among his people and the other in which he was not among his people. and if Tawaffi means death then this verse is directly asserting his demise. in all cases it means one of two things: death or sleep. The boundary between these two phases is defined by the word Tawaffi. Where the act is committed by God or the angels. so in light of the above verse it must be concluded that Jesus has already met his Tawaffi. Argument 1: This verse talks of two different and distinct phases of Jesus¶ existence. and the object upon which this act is committed is a . Jesus is keen to point out that the Christian belief in his divinity was not in existence as long as he was among his people.³And I said nothing to them except that which Thou didst command me µWorship Allah. The only reasonable conclusion that may be drawn from this verse is that Jesus has already gone through the state of Tawaffi. and Thou art Witness over all things. it only took root after Allah had caused Tawaffi to him.

I will be told that when I parted from them they turned back on their heels. past or present. 2:241. It is noteworthy that the Holy Prophet uses the same word and uses it in the exact same context. Here is a complete list of verses using this word: 2:235. 40:68. and there is no exception to this in the entire compendium of Arabic literature. 4:16. 47:28. If that was not the case.´ This hadith shows that the nature of Tawaffi of Jesus is the same as the nature of Tawaffi of the Holy Prophet. In all cases it applies to a person's soul and not to the body. 6:61. 10:105. Holy Prophet would not have said I will say what Jesus had said «. Imam Bukhari quotes Ibn-e-Abbas saying Tawaffi means death. 32:12. 22:6. µmy companions! my companions!¶. except when it is used in conjunction with the qualifier 'night'. 4:98. 16:33.human. Tawaffi simply means death. Upon seeing them I will say. 10:47. 16:71. 40:78. 6:62. 39:43. 12:102. Furthermore. 7:127. At that point I will say the same thing what (Jesus son of Mary) the righteous had said: that while I was among them I watched over them but once You caused me to die (Tawaffi) it was You alone who watched over them. 13:41. This Hadith is taken from Buhkari Kitab-ul-Anbiya and Commentary on chapter Al-Maida: Ibne-Abbas narrates that the Holy Prophet said: ³On the Day of Judgement I will see some people from among my companions being taken to the Left. 7:38. (Bukhari Kitab-ut-Tafseer under Maidah verse 118). Usage of Tawaffi in Hadith Holy Prophetsaw has used Tawaffi in exactly same context in relation to himself. in which case it means sleep. 3:194. Note this statement from Ibn-e-Abbas is in relation to this particular verse and is taken from .

supernaturally. Now. all he has to say is I don't know! Conclusion: he never really returns. Farhang-e-Asaphia all agree that Tawaffi means death. Lisaan-ul-Arab. He would have defended himself saying that while it is quite true that after being supernaturally raised to the heavens. He says none of this. done what he could to put matters straight and even waged a holy war against the Christians on account of their false beliefs? Surely in that circumstance his testimony would have been entirely different. would this be a truthful testimony if he had only a few years ago (40. The commonly understood meaning of the word Tawaffi is death. where it is said: Cause us to die (Tawaffi) in the state of submission. once he landed on Earth he refuted the claims of his divinity. HOWEVER. Next Proof> Posted by Asif Omer at 5:33 PM 35 comments Links to this post . Remember this conversation takes place on the Day of Judgment. and staying. he pleads ignorance and says that he has absolutely no idea what happened after his death. again. taken a good stock of the situation. Qamoos. and his poor followers on observing all this unique supernatural phenomena surrounding him getting misled into concluding that he was a divine being. Sihah-e-Johri. as is alleged) made his second in-person appearance on earth. and had guided the Christians away from their false beliefs. Lexical Meaning of Tawaffi Assas-ul-Balagha. he worked to remove any confusion about his status as a normal human (despite the many supernatural feats he had accomplished). The same word is used in Namaaz-e-Janaza (funeral prayers). Taj-ul-Uroos. alive for thousands of years. Corollary: He is never going to return When God asks Jesus about certain Christian beliefs.one of the most trusted sources of Islam.

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