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RC Radio 03-10-2011

RC Radio 03-10-2011

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Transcript of interviews with state Rep. Mark Hatfield, GA 177 and state Sen. Kyrsten Sinema, AZ
Transcript of interviews with state Rep. Mark Hatfield, GA 177 and state Sen. Kyrsten Sinema, AZ

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LC: And so the way I see it – and there was a challenge a

few months ago – I forget if it was for the Supreme Court of

Appeals for one of the judges, who didn't meet the bar

requirements, and she was eventually found to be eligible. But

in other words, in the last decade, the two most notable

challenges we've had to eligibility here in the state, which

proved to be successful challenges, were on local ballots, the

PSC being statewide, District 80 being local. And local races,

as I see it – I mean, when you're talking about a billion dollar

presidential race, these are candidates who have massive

opposition research. If they have elibility issues, they'll

discover it, more likely than in a House race or a PSC race,

many of which are going to be unopposed, frankly, and then no

one's doing opposition research.

And therefore, I think it's – as Keith and Max demonstrate

– that is frankly where we probably need a documentation

standard more than we need on the presidential level.


MR. HATFIELD: I certainly wouldn't have any problem with

it. I think that anybody that's seeking to hold an office,

whether you are at the national level or if you're even at the

local level, you should be – you should expect to be asked to

meet a higher standard and to make sure that you are – satisfy

all the requirements. So I wouldn't have any problem with that

at all.

LC: Yes, and I think that's one of the ways that the bill

could be improved is to, you know, instead of making it appear

that it's simply targeting just the presidency, make it also

apply to our other federal officers.

MR. HATFIELD: Well, that would be a fine idea except for

one thing. In the Georgia constitution, we are prohibited from

passing a bill that has more than one subject matter, and I fear

that we would violate the constitution's single subject matter

requirement – the Georgia constitution's – if we were to take up

a wholly different set of offices with regard to that. Now, you

know, if we got a legal opinion from legislative counsel or

otherwise, I mean, I'd be all for that. I don't have any

problem with it. As I said, I mean, I'd be prepared to share my

birth certificate if anyone wants to see it, and be glad to, but

I won't have any problem with that, and I think that it's not

unreasonable to ask for it.

LC: So if they have to be separate bills then so be it,

but like I said, I think that's where the need is here in


And to be honest, I've seen in other states that there are

some other states – oh, that was the other thing I was going to

say. Quite frankly, I think the problem here in Georgia isn't

that we're letting too many people on the presidential ballot;

it's that we're letting too few. You know, Georgia has, quite

frankly, the strictest ballot access laws in the nation.

MR. HATFIELD: I agree with you there, and I don't know if

you've looked at this, but a couple years ago I cosponsored a

bill along with Representative Alan Powell and some others to

ease those ballot access requirements. I do believe that we

should be more willing to allow third party candidates,

independent candidates, et cetera, to get on the ballot. So I'm

all for that.

LC: Yes, and thank you for that. I hope you resubmit such

a bill and it gets more support.

But, yeah, like I said earlier, the two things I named

earlier, the privacy, the definition of a birth certificate, I

think those are quite frankly going to be obstacles to your bill

going forward. I think fix those, and it would stand a much

better chance of passing, would stand a better chance of

surviving a challenge.

MR. HATFIELD: Well, I think that – you know, I'm not going

to make any predictions about whether or not the bill passes.

There's – you know, we're certainly at a point in the

legislative session where there's a lot of major issues out

there, and frankly, I think the, somewhat the media spotlight

that's been put on this attention probably has caused some

people to get cold feet over it, certainly not me, but you know,

whether or not that it goes forward it remains to be seen, but I

think you have some good suggestions and I think that you're

certainly right on target with ballot access as an issue in

Georgia, and I will continue to pursue that issue into the


LC: Well, thank you for that.

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