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gud day mga guru sa motot, ask ko lang po kung ano ang da best engine oil for my raider j. katatapos lang po ng break-in, 3000km ang mileage. currently using shell advance VSX fully synthetic. may naririnig po kase akong mas maganda kung magpalit ako ng castrol. ok po b un? and kelan po b dpat magpalit ng oil.?? monthly or by mileage? my average travel per day is 10km.

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thanks in advance sa mga idea...

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Re: best 4 stroke motorcycle oil Quote:

Originally Posted by LOWslow gud day mga guru sa motot, ask ko lang po kung ano ang da best engine oil for my raider j. katatapos lang po ng break-in, 3000km ang mileage. currently using shell advance VSX fully synthetic. may naririnig po kase akong mas maganda kung magpalit ako ng castrol. ok po b un? and kelan po b dpat magpalit ng oil.?? monthly or by mileage? my average travel per day is 10km. thanks in advance sa mga idea...

correction: VSX is nt a fully synthetic — it's semi-synthetic. Regarding to castrol, as long as its fully synth like power 1, it's better.
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try mo sir ang castrol power1..smooth daw manakbo 'to. try ko rin ito next change oil ko at kapag nagandahan ako ito na siguro ang ipapalit ko sa repsol.
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tnx sir monster energy cge sir try ko din. synthetic based lang pla un vsx.. tnx again sir. sir ask ko lang kung ano motot nio? and kelan kau ngpapalit ng oil? tnx po... naku sir, baka nagkamali lang po. MONTHLY po ako mag change oil.
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Originally Posted by tatelletat mgandang araw,sir tnong ko lng po if maganda ba tlg mag ful synthetic?or every 1000km ang palit,gmit ko kc now shell vsx,my ngsbi sir skin n pg fully synthetic ang gnmit ay up to 1year bgo kw ulet mgplit?slmt po s reply. and one thing sir, parang sobrang nakakaawa naman motot natin pag ganun katagal change oil..
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mgandang araw,sir tnong ko lng po if maganda ba tlg mag ful synthetic?or every 1000km ang palit,gmit ko kc now shell vsx,my ngsbi sir skin n pg fully synthetic ang gnmit ay up to 1year bgo kw ulet mgplit?slmt po s reply.
January 21st, 2009 #6

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Originally Posted by tatelletat mgandang araw,sir tnong ko lng po if maganda ba tlg mag ful synthetic?or every 1000km ang palit,gmit ko kc now shell vsx,my ngsbi sir skin n pg fully synthetic ang gnmit ay up to 1year bgo kw ulet mgplit?slmt po s reply. yes it is! as long as ang km. reading ng odometer ng motor mo ay nasa 5000kms. na kung ito ay bago pa ay maari ka ng mag fully synthetic oil. ang advantage kasi ng fuly synth ay mas robust ito kesa sa semi- synthetic at mineral based, meaning to say ung binibigay na protection nito sa mga

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internal parts ng engine ay mas mataas, at mas mahaba ang drain interval nito. at ang detergency nito o ung cleaning ability nito ay mas mataas din kesa sa mga nasabi kong type ng oil (semi-synth at mineral based) kaya mas maganda ito. regarding sa change oil interval eh kung daily use mo ung motor mo ay hindi pwedeng 1 year. ang draining interval o change interval ng fully-synth oils ay nasa 3000 to 5000kms. depending on the oil's brand. my precaution nga lang sa pag gamit ng fully synths lalo pag gagamitin mo ito sa mga older engines, (dahil mas slippery ito kesa sa semi-synth at mineral based) at ito ay sa clutch operation na maaring mag cause ng pag slide ng clutch pag ginamitan mo ng fully-synth ang isang old engine. pero all in all, fully synth is the best.

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Re: best 4 stroke motorcycle oil Quote:

Originally Posted by LOWslow sir ask ko lang kung ano motot nio? and kelan kau ngpapalit ng oil? tnx po... TMX 155 motor nmn sir. every 1000kms. ako nag cha-change oil nung mineral based oil pa ang gamit ko. pero ngaun bumalik nako sa semi-synthetic dahil binase ko sa climate at Shell VSX na ang gamit ko. Ok ang shell VSX lalo na at araw-araw kong ginagamit ung motor sa skul na bumabiyahe ng 40km./day. Mas my hatak ang motor ko sa shell VSX at ang magigi kong change interval sa VSX ay every 1500kms.
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Originally Posted by tatelletat mgandang araw,sir tnong ko lng po if maganda ba tlg mag ful synthetic?or every 1000km ang palit,gmit ko kc now shell vsx,my ngsbi sir skin n pg fully synthetic ang gnmit ay up to 1year bgo kw ulet mgplit?slmt po s reply. every 1000km. ay walang problema as long as my pambili ulit ng oil. ganyan din ako sa motor nmn pero minsan na-eextend ng mga 200-300 kms. pag busy o kaya wala pang budget. ngaun, VSX din ang gamit ko at ang magigi kong change interval dito ay every 1500km. dahil semi-synth nmn ito. Try mo din ung lubricants ng motul, elf at castrol power 1. mas ok cla sa shell.

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Sir try ninyo yung ELF Sport 4 Campione 100%synthetic __________________

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January 22nd, 2009

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sir lexternald, gud day, ask ko lang if proven na po ba ninyo un? tnx in advance .. ride safe po
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para sa akin MAXIMA maxum4 ultra. __________________ "Four wheels move the body.Two wheels move the soul." "Everyone crashes.Some get back on.Some don't.Some can't."

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gamit ko ngaun is Elf 4T semi synth oil... ok engine response, mas maliksi sya compared sa Motul 5100 semi synth... kaso meron lang akong napansin, mas tumakaw sa gaso motor ko... dati sa Motul 5100, nasa 39 to 41 km/liter konsumo ko (ratrat mode), ngaun nsa 33 to 36 km/liter na lang (same ratrat mode)... totoo ba na nakakaapekto sa gas consumption ang engine oil na nilalagay sa makina ng motor mo? __________________

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January 24th, 2009 #13

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Originally Posted by tatelletat slmt po s sgot,ask agen ako if penzoil(fully synthetic),shell ultra (full synthetic) or valvoline(fully synthetic),alin po jan ang the best?ang motor ko po kc brand new motor star zest x II 110,khpon lng po ako 3rd change oil ko,ang ginamit ko po ay shell vsx synthetic based,oks lng po b next change oil ko e mag full synthetic na ako?please tell me wats the best of fully synthetic i mentioned above,tnx po mga sir. lahat yan eh ok. depende na lang kasi yan sa magiging hiyang ng MC mo availability at budget. personally, sa mga na mention mo above, i'll go with shell advance ultra. kaso, mahirap maghanap nyan d2 sa pinas dahil hindi yan available d2 satin. kung meron mang nagtitinda nyan, bihirang bihira un. if i were u, ang gamitin mo na oil ay castrol power 1 fully synthetic. madaming positive feedbacks d2 sa oil na 'to, e2 ung dating castrol r4 superbike. isa pang magandang fully synth oil ay ung elf campiogne in w/c madaming positive feedbacks din ang nababasa ko tungkol d2 or if you would like the motul 300v fully synth is a very good choice too. o kya kung gusto mo ng the best: repsol. ung repsol racing fully synthetic. nasa 700+ un kung di-ako nagkakamali. pero sa repsol syntetico 10w-40 (semi synth) ay panalong panalo ka na. lahat ng namention kong brand na yan ay proven and tested lalong lalo na ang repsol na halos lahat d2 sa MCP ay yan ang gamit.

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Re: best 4 stroke motorcycle oil Quote:

Originally Posted by lexternald_13 Sir try ninyo yung ELF Sport 4 Campione 100%synthetic Racing approved ito. Ive tried one. Maganda naman ang shifting ko, malambot din gaya nung nag repsol racing ako. Kaso ang napansin ko dati, tumunog ang tensioner ko. sabi ni sir francis, masyado daw malapot yun kaya dapat magpalit ako ng 10w50.
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On my experience, Elf Moto is the most affordable "best" oil for a motorcycle/scooter engine. I've tried the following before Elf Moto on my scooter: Shell Advance VSX | P190 per liter | Good for less than 1000kms each change Castrol Power 1 Gold | P350 per 800ml | No better than Shell Advance VSX | Change every 1000-2000kms Repsol Moto (Mineral) | P280 per liter | Good for break-in period up to 4000kms | Change every 1000-2000 kms Mobil Super XHP Plus | P190 per liter | Good for 1000kms (sobrang itim ng oil once 500kms is reached) With Elf Moto (P350 per liter), mas malamig ang makina, mas makinis at tahimik ang takbo ng engine, pwedeng paabutin upto 4000kms. 10W50 ang viscousity which means it will work and protect your engine kahit bagong start ang makina. A friend from Bulacan uses Elf Moto on all his big bikes and scooter and another friend who uses a Nouvo testifies on how Elf Moto is better than YamaLube. __________________ Paul Garcia

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Re: best 4 stroke motorcycle oil Quote:

Originally Posted by joven_alvarez gamit ko ngaun is Elf 4T semi synth oil... ok engine response, mas maliksi sya compared sa Motul 5100 semi synth... kaso meron lang akong napansin, mas tumakaw sa gaso motor ko... dati sa Motul 5100, nasa 39 to 41 km/liter konsumo ko (ratrat mode), ngaun nsa 33 to 36 km/liter na lang (same ratrat mode)... totoo ba na nakakaapekto sa gas consumption ang engine oil na nilalagay sa makina ng motor mo? the answer is yes. lalo na kung low quality ang oil na gamit. kasi chances are na hindi nito kayang bigyan ng sufficient protection ang mga internal moving parts inside (most likely sa high rpm). pag nangyari un magkakaron ng decrease sa effieciency ng engine at degredation ng internals nito. at ang cause nito ay low power output, increase in fuel consumption at ang extreme case ay engine failure or damage. kaya napakalaking factor ang quality ng oil na nilalagay natin sa engine. kaya kung my pondo, bilhin mo na ung pinaka-magandang brand ng oil na mabibili mo. ako VSX gamit ko kasi ito lang ung mgandang brand ng oil na tested ko na at kaya ng budget ko.

January 24th, 2009

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Originally Posted by Paul.Garcia On my experience, Elf Moto is the most affordable "best" oil for a motorcycle/scooter engine. I've tried the following before Elf Moto on my scooter: Shell Advance VSX | P190 per liter | Good for less than 1000kms each change Castrol Power 1 Gold | P350 per 800ml | No better than Shell Advance VSX | Change every 1000-2000kms Repsol Moto (Mineral) | P280 per liter | Good for break-in period up to 4000kms | Change every 1000-2000 kms Mobil Super XHP Plus | P190 per liter | Good for 1000kms (sobrang itim ng oil once 500kms is reached) With Elf Moto (P350 per liter), mas malamig ang makina, mas makinis at tahimik ang takbo

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ng engine, pwedeng paabutin upto 4000kms. 10W50 ang viscousity which means it will work and protect your engine kahit bagong start ang makina. A friend from Bulacan uses Elf Moto on all his big bikes and scooter and another friend who uses a Nouvo testifies on how Elf Moto is better than YamaLube. yun oh........plus +1 ako dito.....a satisfied Elf user too... __________________

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may conditions din di ba sir with regarding motor oils? kapag dry clutch yung motor mo ang alam ko di pwede ang fully synthetic. ami I correct? if ever if this is true what would you recommend for mc with dry clutches? tnx
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Originally Posted by movistarbike

may conditions din di ba sir with regarding motor

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oils? kapag dry clutch yung motor mo ang alam ko di pwede ang fully synthetic. ami I correct? if ever if this is true what would you recommend for mc with dry clutches? tnx
sa pagkakaalam ko, ang hindi pwede sa dry clutch e yung oils specially made for scooters..pwero pwede yung oil pang wet clutch/motorsiklo sa mga scooters..dry clutch kasi scooter. __________________ GY6 Scooterista | http://itridersphilippines.org

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hi mga master, super noob po ako pagdating sa maintenance ng motor at ang problem ko ngayun eh di ko lam kung anong magandang gamiting oil for Honda wave 100 bale 1yr na po yung mc ko... salamat po sa mabilisang sagot...
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ok lang ba yung HONDA multi grade gamit ko sa wave125? dun na kasi ako sa HONDA bumili ng pangchange oil sa keysa pa maghanap at bumili sa iba... __________________

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Originally Posted by s1lv3r_13 ok lang ba yung HONDA multi grade gamit ko sa wave125? dun na kasi ako sa HONDA bumili ng pangchange oil sa keysa pa maghanap at bumili sa iba... Honda 4T 10w-30. in my opinion maxadong manipis ung oil @ operating temp. kasi hanggang 30 lang ang viscosity nya. much better pa sana kung nasa 40 ang viscosity nito @ operating temp. lalo na't tropical climate tayo kaya hindi ako gumagamit nito. try mo mag shell VSX or other fully synthetic oils mas ok pa.
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Originally Posted by Paul.Garcia On my experience, Elf Moto is the most affordable "best" oil for a motorcycle/scooter engine. I've tried the following before Elf Moto on my scooter: Shell Advance VSX | P190 per liter | Good for less than 1000kms each change Castrol Power 1 Gold | P350 per 800ml | No better than Shell Advance VSX | Change every 1000-2000kms Repsol Moto (Mineral) | P280 per liter | Good for break-in period up to 4000kms | Change every 1000-2000 kms Mobil Super XHP Plus | P190 per liter | Good for 1000kms (sobrang itim ng oil once 500kms is reached) With Elf Moto (P350 per liter), mas malamig ang makina, mas makinis at tahimik ang takbo ng engine, pwedeng paabutin upto 4000kms. 10W50 ang viscousity which means it will work and protect your engine kahit bagong start ang makina. A friend from Bulacan uses Elf Moto on all his big bikes and scooter and another friend who uses a Nouvo testifies on how Elf Moto is better than YamaLube. yung sinasabi mo ba na elf is yung elf4t campione na fully synthetic?may nakita kasi ako sa MALL kanina while i was strolling __________________ "Four wheels move the body.Two wheels move the soul." "Everyone crashes.Some get back on.Some don't.Some can't."

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Re: best 4 stroke motorcycle oil Quote:

Originally Posted by jbabdiel hi mga master, super noob po ako pagdating sa maintenance ng motor at ang problem ko ngayun eh di ko lam kung anong magandang gamiting oil for Honda wave 100 bale 1yr na po yung mc ko... salamat po sa mabilisang sagot... Shell VSX @ 190-200php semi-synthetic. or other brand of oils like motul (5100 or 300v), elf moto and repsol (moto, syntetico and racing).
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may conditions din di ba sir with regarding motor oils? kapag dry clutch yung motor mo ang alam ko di pwede ang fully synthetic. ami I correct? if ever if this is true what would you recommend for mc with dry clutches? tnx
bakit naman? synthetic oils are safe in dry and wet clutches. sa wet clutch nmn (motorcycles), JASO spec. and API rating like SJ and SG ang safe.
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