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AVSIM Commercial Aircraft Review

Messerschmitt 262A-1a and 262B

Product Information Publishers: Flight 1 / Flight Replicas

Description: Flight Replicas Messerschmitt Me-262A-A1 and Me-262B Trainer. Download Size: N/A Format: CD-ROM Simulation Type: FS9 & FSX

Reviewed by: Angelique van Campen AVSIM Senior Staff Reviewer - September 28, 2009

Introduction
A totally different product than you’re used from me and apart from that, I’ve never seen this military aircraft in real life. I did see and work partly on the British Spitfire during my time at the technical school in Voorburg, near the Hague, but this is a totally different aircraft. Nonetheless, this review is a challenge for me and at the same time a challenge to fly. Don’t forget, the Messerschmitt 262 was the first operational turbojet fighter in the world and that’s something unique.

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file:///E|/AVSIM/Reviews/Me-262/Me262. which slowed the project significantly. Highlights include unique animations such as the gun sight rotating in and out of place as well as custom 3D gauges. it's hard to beat the Fiddler's Green Me 262 paper model.htm (2 of 18)28/09/2009 5:26:18 PM ." Me-262A-2a number 111711 Me-262 in flight The detailed “Office” Courtesy Sky Unlimited Productions/Flight Replicas The Me-262 began life in 1938. Although the first airframe was ready to fly by 1941. Before I continue with this review. let’s first see what Flight Replicas /Flight1 are writing about this product: "Built specifically for FSX (SP2/Acceleration). For this reason no 2D panel is included at this time. engines were suffering prolonged development delays. which you can download and print at home on any color printer. but since the model was primarily designed for FSX. accurate and derived from the original • Written history of all the aircraft depicted • Two paint kits. you’ve got two possibilities: If you don't have a lot to spend. The package offers also some FS2004 models. but the twoseat trainer with fully operational dual cockpits as well. flight helmet and oxygen mask • Animated pilot • Turn on the oxygen system and the pilot puts on his mask • Full flight operations manual. The configuration eventually chosen featured a sleek streamlined fuselage with the two podded engines carried beneath a low-mounted wing.Flight Simulation's Number 1 Site! The offered model from developer Flight Replicas and publisher Flight1 is available for FSX and then only when SP2 or the Acceleration pack installed. Ok. the B.W.AVSIM Online . The Messerschmitt Me-262 Schwalbe (German for "Swallow") saw action from late summer of 1944 until the end of the war. or are just looking for something fun to do. This "kit" consists of an Acrobat file. this all-new extremely detailed and functional Gmax version of the famed Messerschmitt Me-262 features not only the single seat fighters. The model is featuring: • Five different models Including a 2 Seat Variant • Six different textures • Fully clickable and workable cockpit overall • Bump mapping in selected areas • Revi16B tinted glass can be realistically folded out of the way • Carefully researched textures. most of the FS2004 VC functions do not work. This aircraft has a beautifully rendered cockpit that is designed to be flown in at all times. Then simply cut out the pieces and paste per the printed directions. one for the Me-262a and one for the Me-262B two-seater. when Willy Messerschmitt was called upon to design a new fighter to be powered by two gas turbine engines. sharing the title of first operational jet fighter with the British Gloster Meteor. This and more can be found in the leaflet on pages 6 to 8 of the CD-ROM package. including help from a major museum • Accurate Luftwaffe pilot flight suit.M.

Courtesy of Stormbirds. Although it is often stated the Me 262 is a "swept wing" design. Funding for the jet program was also initially lacking. The aircraft was originally designed with a tail wheel undercarriage and the first four prototypes (Me 262 V1-V4) were built with this configuration. the Luftwaffe and Messerschmitt didn’t have the time to do so. You will be surprised with the “virtual” Messerschmitt 262 FPS performances. Although debatable. almost at the end of WWII. The final models where delivered to the Luftwaffe much too late.5°.AVSIM Online . Fiddler's Green offers a wide variety of paper aircraft models for a minimal fee. much more interesting than downloading this paper model is buying the Me-262 for FSX. with 509 claimed Allied kills (although higher claims are sometimes made) against the loss of more than 100 Me 262s. or there was no money. Even the Virtual Cockpit is well simulated but don’t expect a highly complex “office” since Hitler. This was done primarily to properly position the center of lift relative to the file:///E|/AVSIM/Reviews/Me-262/Me262.Com A brief description of the Messerschmitt 262 Series The Messerschmitt Me 262 Schwalbe (German for Swallow) was the world's first operational turbojet fighter aircraft. It was almost a race against the ticking clock unfortunately. however. You may download this model from Fiddler's. the production Me 262 had a leading edge sweep of only 18. they have kindly released their Me 262 without charge. Changing to a tricycle undercarriage arrangement initially a fixed the problem on the fifth prototype. The progression of the original design into service was delayed greatly by technical issues involving the new jet engines. while the Allies called it the Turbo. please join me on my “virtual” Messerschmitt 262 flight. Adolf Hitler had envisioned the Me 262 not as a defensive interceptor. giving almost no control on the ground. If you’re interested in this Flight Replicas model. but it was discovered on an early test run that the engines and wings "blanked" the stabilizers. and the original design was very similar to the plane that eventually entered service. The Me 262 was already being developed as Projekt P. then fully retractable gear on the sixth and succeeding aircraft corrected this problem. However.htm (3 of 18)28/09/2009 5:26:18 PM . The Me 262 had a negligible impact on the course of the war due to its late introduction. His edict resulted in the Sturmvogel (Stormbird) variant. German pilots nicknamed it the Sturmvogel (Stormbird). or directly from our server via the following download link (550kb).Flight Simulation's Number 1 Site! By the way. Plans were first drawn up in April 1939.1065 before the start of World War II. it is generally agreed Hitler's interference was not a major reason for delay in bringing the Swallow into operation. as many high-ranking officials thought the war could easily be won with conventional aircraft. but as an offensive ground attack/bomber. It was produced in World War II and saw action starting in 1944 as a multi-role fighter/ bomber/reconnaissance/interceptor warplane for the Luftwaffe.

with the code PC+UC. Even when the engines were completed. especially metals and alloys able to handle the extreme temperatures produced by the jet engine. a conventional Junkers Jumo 210 engine was mounted in the V1 prototype's nose. The 003 engines. piloted by Fritz Wendel. When the BMW 003 engines were finally installed. serial production did not begin until 1944. Germany. The introduction of a primitive auto throttle late in the war only helped slightly. became a true "jet" when it flew on 18 July 1942 in Leipheim near Günzburg. the middle section was later swept. This was almost nine months ahead of the British Gloster Meteor's first flight on 5 March 1943. bearing its Stammkennzeichen radio code letters of PC +UA. Military / airframe.Flight Simulation's Number 1 Site! centre of mass and not for the aerodynamic benefit of increasing the critical Mach number of the wing. Turbojet engines have less thrust at low speed than propellers and as a result. It was more noticeable for the Me 262 as early jet engines (before the invention of afterburners) responded slowly to throttle changes. the Department of Defense Jumo was retained for safety. the outer wing was positioned slightly backwards to the same end. Airframe modifications were complete by 1942 but hampered by the lack of engines. Conversely. instead of moving the wing forward on its mount. when the engines proved to be heavier than originally expected. but typically took eight to nine due to poorly made parts and inadequate training of ground crews. The first test flights began on 18 April 1941. The sweep was too slight to achieve any significant advantage. A pilot familiar with the Me 262 and its engines could expect approximately 20 to 25 hours of life from the 004s. the higher power of jet engines at higher speeds meant the Me 262 enjoyed a much higher climb speed.S. but pilots were warned never to fly slower than 300 km/h (186 mph) on one engine. Used tactically. but the engines continued to be unreliable. most 004s lasted just 12 hours. This delay in engine availability was in part due to the shortage of strategic materials. but since its intended BMW 003 turbojets were not ready for fitting. Changing a 004 engine was intended to require three hours. The V3 third prototype airframe. With one engine out. driving a propeller to test the Me 262 V1 Courtesy U. which proved wise as both 003s failed during the first flight and the pilot had to land using the nose mounted engine alone. The middle section of the wing remained unswept. Test flights continued over the next year. in fact. they had an expected operational lifetime of approximately 50 hours. were replaced by the newly available Junkers Jumo 004. This happened after the initial design of the aircraft. the Me-262 still flew well. with speeds of 450 to 500 km/h (280 to 310 mph). low-speed acceleration is relatively poor.htm (4 of 18)28/09/2009 5:26:18 PM Courtesy NASA . as the asymmetrical thrust would cause serious file:///E|/AVSIM/Reviews/Me-262/Me262. with the Me 262 V1 example. which were proving unreliable. this gave the jet fighter an even greater speed advantage in climb rate than level flight at top speed. Based on data from the AVA Göttingen and wind tunnel results.AVSIM Online . On 1 March 1940.

Ok. the 1A comes in three different models but compared to the FSX is for sure.Nr unknown Me-262-1a. Most of you.Nr.Nr 110639 Two seat trainer In case you choose for the FS2004 Me-262 installation.Nr 500200 Me-262-2a Wk. Nakajima J9Y. a lot less configurations. Lots of background information is passed and integrated into the different windows. Wk.htm (5 of 18)28/09/2009 5:26:18 PM . are not that interested in what the installer is telling you. the correct FSX/ FS9 directory is taken from the Windows Registry.Nr 111711 Me-262B Wk. During the initial part of the installation process. Installation and documentation (FSX/FS9 version) Installation Since the product is published by Flight1 and offered on a CD-ROM there’s no need for an online Flight1 wrapper. Documentation file:///E|/AVSIM/Reviews/Me-262/Me262. Wk. P-59 Airacomet. Is there really a need to offer you some screenshots about this installation process? I don’t think so but probably it’s a good idea to tell you in advance which models can be expected. 500071 Me-262-2a Wk. Nakajima Ki-201 or the Sukhoi Su-9 (1946).Flight Simulation's Number 1 Site! problems. Me-262-1a. including me. This MSFS version offers only the Me-262-1a and 2A models.Nr unknown Me-262-1b Wk.AVSIM Online . Comparable aircrafts are for example the Gloster Meteor. This means a straightforward installation where you can choose for either the FS2004 or the FSX Me-262 version. I think – since I don’t have it installed on my PC – this will also be the case when your PC uses Vista instead of Windows XP. there’s a slight difference in the available aircraft types. P-80 Shooting Star.

Jabo fighter/bomber and a 2-seater. This military fighter/bomber is not offering a complicated cockpit and then I mean. the manual offers an in-depth description and operation of the VC. transformed into a two seat trainer by the aircraft manufactures Blohm and Voss. flying the Me-262 and the offered models including some history of those Me-262 types.htm (6 of 18)28/09/2009 5:26:18 PM . Remember. which is for this special occasion. Furthermore. the cockpit just has what is necessary for a fighter pilot to fly with. Page 6 (FSX version) Description of LH console Page 14 (FSX version) Aircraft type and historical info Page 11 (FSX version) Part of the “Flying the Me262” Ok. nothing less! External Me-262 models The Flight Replicas Me-262 comes in the following models. 110639. file:///E|/AVSIM/Reviews/Me-262/Me262. there’s a chapter offering a checklist and how to fly the Me262. R4M rocket equipped launcher. There’s no table of contents but roughly the manual consists of the following chapters. IRS. model information and simulated items including some FSX limitations or model limitation due to the original complexity. Oops. you only find six screenshots of two different models. the uninstaller. VC instrument and side panels description and operation. but it seems to me that the 19 pages document isn’t covering that much information or not much more then the printed manual. EFIS and many more of that stuff. FS2004 model limitation including the necessary references to an Acrobat manual explaining the FS2004 model. to prevent a slide show instead of a review of this product./ NAGr 11 and the Me-262B nr. even in real life it’s a straightforward cockpit without of course FMS. Finally. standard (whatever this may be). Nothing more. the Me-262-1a of the night fighting squadron 10. Some of the other models are presented during the test flights in the United States. I don’t know exactly since there’s no table of contents. Via the Start menu -> Messerschmitt Me-262 for FSX (FS2004) you’ve got access to the Flight Replica –the developer – Me-262 manual and of course. but there’s no need for this and you won’t miss it either since the Virtual Cockpit FPS is great. to be very honest not really impressive.Flight Simulation's Number 1 Site! The CD-ROM box comes with a printed black-white manual with some background information.AVSIM Online . there’s no 2D cockpit available. No. I think it’s time to have a closer look at these configurations.

certain things are not simulated because of the complexity and because of the available polygons. When I finally got the chance to make pictures of the two seat version. the two seat VC looks very realistic and detailed. look great. since the aircraft still exists in museums. Most of the old available pictures are black and white however. Virtual Me-262 Cockpit (FSX) file:///E|/AVSIM/Reviews/Me-262/Me262. plus good and workable frame rates. the -1a and B version. probably an antenna. it seems that the created virtual models reflect the real version. One last word about the paintings. it’s a very thin detail but it’s there! Another interesting part and for some probably not that important. like the main landing gear wheels and then especially the tires. the model’s external look and detail is pretty good. since that’s a personal feeling but the overall model offers lots of tiny details which makes it overall a look looking and realistic Messerschmitt 262. Other simple things are added to the model like the wire running from the aft side of the canopy to the tail. it was a rainy and cold day.Flight Simulation's Number 1 Site! Ok. it stays as a line so there’s no possibility to open a specific panel. I’m not a designer at Blohm and Voss.htm (7 of 18)28/09/2009 5:26:18 PM . Very small detail with a huge impact. Although it doesn’t belong here.AVSIM Online . I’m personally more interested in a good looking model with a nice cockpit above all. is the brake line – I’m not sure about this but I think so – on the nose landing gear strut. I know. Nothing is more frustrating than having a replica of the original model but flying with frame rates of less the 10 or even 5. Looking at the available paintings or liveries I think it’s well done although this is a personal issue. It seems like a small wire but I think it represents a brake line. The following question could rise … “are you interested in these external panels or not?” That’s up to you. but nevertheless it offers a good idea of this fighter. You should not think about it when there’s no brake line at all installed! On the models you find everywhere lines of panels and unfortunately. Of course. Some parts are not that impressive but other parts. but I think the basic Me-262 version is very similar to the “B” model only for the two seat canopy. Several FSX ground shots of two offered Messerschmitt 262 models. You like the paintings or not. My conclusion is that I’m happy with the model keeping in mind that this is a military airplane where the painting during wartime was not as important as with modern airliners.

According to Flight Replicas. I don’t have a modern Intel Dual or Quad Core CPU but still two P4 Xeon 3. the developers decided to create a simplified way of starting the Jumo’s 004. the package comes with 3 different types of artificial horizons. It sounds odd but this is like the real Me262. it’s too complex to duplicate/simulate in FSX. let’s give you an example. this is strange … this time only one cockpit version and then as expected. the engine start procedure is not like the real Messerschmitt but again – according to the developers – for good reasons. to create a more realistic “available” cockpit as it was in those days. you could find a different set of instruments. Although the simulated procedure is more simplified. with or without a TrackerIR and even on one or two TFT’s.in my personal opinion . 2 different types of Vertical Speed Indicators.AVSIM Online . since starting procedures like this should . You still with me? The reason that this is done is because during the war they had supply difficulties and not always the same kind of instrument was available. Then unfortunately. only the Virtual Cockpit. Different created VC’s means that depending on the Me-262 configuration. One last item before we jump into the cockpit and that’s the absence of instrument back lighting and no landing lights are available on the simulated Me-262.htm (8 of 18)28/09/2009 5:26:18 PM . the WWII German Luftwaffe system was deemed too different to warrant an attempt at accurate replication and because of this. the rookie Messerschmitt fighter pilot is able to fire-up the Jumo 004 engines via the basic FSX engine controls “Ctrl+E”. but also high FPS. I personally would say that I’m not really happy with it but on the other hand.Flight Simulation's Number 1 Site! Oops. Now it’s time to see what they’ve all created and I can tell you I’m impressed. It was not a fancy. 2 type of Electric Compasses and 2 types of Oxygen gauges. First of all. Remember. This makes it possible to fly .without frame rate reduction – an easy VC.belong to default FSX aircraft only and not to add-ons. so that’s why the developers created different set of instruments. Due to the highly complex real engine start procedure. and not only impressed with lot’s of tiny details.06Ghz … not bad eh! file:///E|/AVSIM/Reviews/Me-262/Me262. it’s a relatively small cockpit area with one or two seats and not too many complicated instruments. I don’t know about other military fighters and what they are offering but thinking about it. OK. like I have. the Flight Replicas developers are open with this and for good reasons as it was better to do it like in the simulated Me-262. then nobody worries about it. but again. they used a convenient present day 2D panel. super modern aircraft. it requiring multiple users of each hand simultaneously and above all. Moreover. The manual gives us a good idea of what is possible and more over. Let’s go a little deeper and let’s look at the radios. Still interested in the official procedure … the manual tells you all about it. the animated movement of the starter handles and clutch buttons has been replicated to show what was required. So the startup of the real Me-262 was too complex. They simply didn’t have those things and why should they? It was a mass produced aircraft for the German Luftwaffe during war time. that’s the way I feel about it. a click on the handle will simply start the engine. In the simulated Me-262. when it looks old and it fits well into the created side console. the different “created VC’s. That hurts.

placard.AVSIM Online . which tells me something about the developers interest and love when creating a product like this. instrument needles. very sharp. Compare the following: you’ve got a highly photo realistic fighter VC but frames are between 5-10 or you’ve got a very good looking VC with 20-25 frames! file:///E|/AVSIM/Reviews/Me-262/Me262. Probably you’re thinking … are there no better VC’s with other FSX fighter cockpits? Probably there are. this is in relation to my PC configuration.. as they say it themselves.htm (9 of 18)28/09/2009 5:26:18 PM . efficient to kill the enemy and straightforward. FPS counter including high resolution settings and clouds do give me between 20-25 FPS.. It’s not a fancy cockpit with lots of funny stuff or extreme photo-realistic panels. it was at the end of WWII and planes like these are not nice looking ones. I honestly don’t know but it offers lots of details and above all. I’m very happy to write that all that I see is sharp . It also offers lots of funny details. They had to be cheap. As written before. very good frame rates and that’s also important in my personal opinion. flying in the VC only is great. values in indicators and many more of those things. These screenshots are not enough to give you a good impression of what’s all there. sorry. Remember. Instead of this they tried to create a realistic VC as it was in those days. Keeping this in mind..Flight Simulation's Number 1 Site! Nice looking LH wing Not bad at all! Close-up Jumo 004 engine instruments Jumped for a minute outside Looking forward Canopy release handle with cables Close-up flight instruments Revi 16B gun sight Radio console with FuG 25 Just a small collection of the fighter office. When zooming in on certain details like text. which is I think very good. that worked out very well. Of course.

which can be selected ON or OFF. the higher the FPS. when you look inside the cockpit. this should not present much of a problem. the FS2004 VC doesn’t offer the same functionality.AVSIM Online . Ok. the FSDS2. and canopy. Relevant buttons can be pushed. Looking from the outside to the canopy. just a small “missing” detail and hardly important but worth mentioning. This is nice but still. you never see any pilot while the outside tells you they’re in. I strongly advise you to install the FSX model since it’s a very friendly FPS model. and there are clickable areas in the cockpit. it does not have the total functionality possible with FSDS3 or Gmax. I’m very happy with the cockpit design. due to some limitations. however not all of it is operative. Pushed (activated) buttons will turn black. Oops. but as the Me-262 cockpit does not have many features supported by FS2004 anyway. such as for the Revi 16B gun sight. ECAM. you will find one or two pilots – only males !@#$%^&* . When you own an older PC and you’re able to run FSX within normal parameters. by clicking the RH strut screw – item 32 from the manual – of the main instrument panel. panel drawings.” Ok. This manual tells us that “this model was built using FSDS2. EICAS or FMC (M)CDUs. some shots of the two seat trainer while in flight. the cockpit looks very similar. Whatever. file:///E|/AVSIM/Reviews/Me-262/Me262. with “simple instruments” I don’t mean that these instruments are not good. The only thing which is odd is the absence of the pilots. to finish it. normal and tiny details. Virtual FS2004 Me-262 Cockpit As written earlier. BTW.24.htm (10 of 18)28/09/2009 5:26:18 PM .24 is related to FSX while FSDS3 belongs to FS2004. As such. No. I’m not a programmer but to clarify this sentence. although I do know and understand that the smaller the size of a cockpit with simple instruments. before I forget … here are some two seat trainer shots.Flight Simulation's Number 1 Site! That’s more or less the case with this product. In other words. they are excellent but they are not as complicated to create and calculate like EFIS.

Flight Simulation's Number 1 Site! Indeed. there’s no need for that. to keep my attention with the lessons and to keep my eyes open. it seems it’s slightly different but in general the Me-262s are the same and as said before and important to mention it again. This..AVSIM Online . all sliders maximum. Oops. the lighting conditions are bad. the morning is tough. As said. the instructor is doing his best and with some videos to keep our attention and with a fixed simulated model in the classroom. Are the flight dynamics as real as possible? I’ve had a great day . I’m not that hungry anymore since I had a lot of coffee in the morning hours. During lunch it seems that we have received all the necessary information before going to the real “virtual” model.htm (11 of 18)28/09/2009 5:26:18 PM . the whiteboard is still a black board and the slides including the study books are of a very old quality. The morning is planned for some classroom training while the afternoon schedule is flying a virtual Me-262-2a. is a replica of manufacture number 111711. why .2Ghz 6GB Tri-Channel DDR3 1600Mhz EVGA GTX-285 For the Winner Quad WD VelociRaptor 300GB HDD Single WD 1TB HDD Windows Vista Ultimate x64 W7 Ultimate RC1 x64 (not used) Flight Simulator FSX SP2 Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals Saitek ProFlight Yoke System Saitek Pro Flight Switch Panel TrackerIR Pro 4 TrackerClip Pro Flying Time: 44 hours After some hours of theoretical lessons it’s time for a small lunch. when your PC can handle FSX with average FPS then please install the FSX model. the Me-262 was primarily designed for FSX including all the available feature FSX is offering. Is it a dream or file:///E|/AVSIM/Reviews/Me-262/Me262. I’m invited by one of the test pilots who still flies different Me-262 models. It seems it’s all old stuff. by the way. This virtual museum holds the single and two seat models. the cockpit offers some similarities but there’s a slight difference in the available instruments. Remember. Test System Intel Core Extreme i7-965 3. I try not to fall asleep but the environment – the classroom – doesn’t offer relaxing seats.. Oh well. For sure it could be higher but already having 25-30 FPS is enough to have a fluent and pleasant flight. Coffee. AS you can see with the previous FSX VC shots. with an average of 60-80 FPS and I didn’t tweak anything. so the bare Aluminum model. because I’m able to see those “virtual” Messerschmitt 262 models from close up and I’m even able to fly with them in the same way the rookie pilots did during their first flight attempts. Any need to add more FS2004 screenshots? No. With Building Storms active. that sounds scary and believe me it is! It means that my life lies in the hands of the few hours I’ve spend in the classroom and the Messerschmitt 262 from Flight Replica. some flight shots of the FS2004 Me-262. we try to follow the guy since this is our last chance. So please join me on these real virtual test flights. Ok. like in the old WWII days.

This was really awesome. According to others. so far so good. it produces 20-25 FPS. it’s not a dream. decide and confirm with the instructor that I’m ready and close the canopy and leave the instructor behind me on the field. I’ll decide to play a little with the gear and while you can see the outside photo shot. At VR I slowly pull the stick and there I go. I have some other plans I would like to try but before doing this. who is standing next to me on the wing with the canopy opened. According to the checklist. It seems that the airfield is closed. do some other checks and here we go. it’s a very easy airplane to fly but special care must be taken related to the engines. it seems to me that it looks realistic. soft landing. ask some others to confirm it’s a dream but unfortunately. This time it’s not a huge commercial jet but a very handy. Ill take my checklist in my hands which is by the way not provided in the software. According to the instructor. I’m ready to jump into an Me-262-2a bare model. there it is. As can be seen by my system specifications. lower the flaps step by step and finally when the runway is in sight. changing my clothes for more proper stuff. I don’t own a modern dual or quad core CPU system. keeping in mind the engine limitations. Now I’ve really got sweaty hands and I’m still on the ground. I can’t find any other words for this. nor I don’t have a SLI graphics card construction and still with clouds and high graphical settings. turn left. the engine start procedure is not really simulated as in the real version. I try to find my way which is not that difficult and . file:///E|/AVSIM/Reviews/Me-262/Me262. the gear. the frame rates are impressive. a virtual flight with the Flight Replicas Messerschmitt 262-2a. turn onto the runway and apply full thrust. Even for an old WWII fighter like this one. it’s real … I’m going to fly by myself the virtual Messerschmitt 262 from Flight Replicas. Some details are visible while others are not that detailed but the overall look is great and even much more important. Slowly but gently I make a nice. After visiting the toilet. I think it’s wise to ask my instructor.Flight Simulation's Number 1 Site! something else? I try to look around. back to the sea and make another steep turn – a little more then normal … almost a 90 degrees turn – before heading back to my original destination. Perfectly to fly “as real as it gets”! Oops. otherwise I could end up on the ground as a result of a crash. yes. Wow. I’m climbing too fast.. it flies great and every movement with the stick is more or less directly followed. Ok. I’ll taxi towards the runway. I perform the necessary steps and slowly but steadily the 262 is climbing out towards open water. Since my speed is not too high. since this is too complicated for FSX but as far as possible. Oops. flexible old type jet fighter. Back to my active lessons! I level off and turn into the direction of a nearby airfield. which gives me the possibility to make a low flyover. really great. Ok. frame rates are extremely important. it looks good. I start the engines. I’ll put the flaps to the correct TO position. I’m pressed in my seat while the aircraft is accelerating.AVSIM Online .htm (12 of 18)28/09/2009 5:26:18 PM .

At the same time to keep the frames as high as possible. Time to go home! file:///E|/AVSIM/Reviews/Me-262/Me262. it’s also raining but that won’t stop me or my instructor for doing virtual practical maneuvers. I made a virtual “up-side-down” flight maneuver and as you can see on the screenshots. The weather has changed. I felt myself very close flying along a rim.htm (13 of 18)28/09/2009 5:26:18 PM .I was able to make for you during this up-side-down flight. We’re flying just below the clouds and because of the lighting conditions. The tricky part of flying up-side-down is of course that the flight controls suddenly work in the opposite direction. I lost a little of my orientation and when I finally came out of that white/grey area.and probably none of the reviewers have that but I can tell you. so handy but still with a good “realistic” feeling! With my cell phone – that’s one of the advantages of these days . a picture. there’s no enemy except my instructor but I believe that’s not the idea to shoot him into the ground. according the Michael from Flight Replicas. we go side by side into the empty and cloudy sky. With this maneuver I only made a small mistake and that’s I ended up in the clouds and because of this. that was really great. Oops. it looks very scary but on the other hand. my instructor made some nice screenshots. The guns and or bomb facilities are. After the necessary preparations. my virtual instructor spotted me.AVSIM Online .Flight Simulation's Number 1 Site! My real flight experience with this kind of aircrafts is of course very limited – not at all of course . While I’m flying under the clouds like a predator. We’re heading in a southern direction with lots of forests and small hills. I did my maneuvers a higher altitude in case I forgot this strange behavior. made a screenshot and that was it. He wants to show me certain things – acrobatic performances – and that helps a little when he is there and explains directly to me what to do and how to handle the aircraft. which can be found right below. It feels like a real virtual WWII jet fighter. fast for it’s time/design. Because of this. This time my instructor is flying with me in formation. So easy. it feels good. Of course. I’m feeling myself like a tiger looking for the enemy. that’s true. Flexible.Nr. not simulated because they wanted to keep preference to the complexity of the Messerschmitt model. During this flight I tried several maneuvers but one I did was really spectacular. there’s a huge overcast at low altitude. Lucky for me. basic cockpit as it was and high frame rates! My second flight and also my last one is with the Me-262-1b Wk. 500071 model.

Flight Simulation's Number 1 Site! GEAR UP. The tricky thing is that the real and virtual simulated Flight Replica model doesn’t have any taxi and landing lights. just after TO Like a tiger somewhere in the jungle of clouds Looking and looking around for enemies but there’s nobody. I was really fun flying and performing this since it felt very realistic. Great to fly with high FPS Right on. I don’t have any idea of the real one but what I know. believe me! Gently as usual we liftoff and make a steady climb into the dark sky. it’s a fighter and a fast one! It’s almost sunset and although the instructor gives me a chance to fly during evening/night. I got another proposal and that’s going together in a two seat trainer. upside down! Oops. the 262B is rolled out of the hangar. file:///E|/AVSIM/Reviews/Me-262/Me262. It’s already dark outside when we taxi to runway 03-21 but that doesn’t matter anymore. since my instructor is flying and I’m very relaxed sitting behind him. the instruments do not have any electrical backlight but the instrument plates are equipped with radium. I have to say that it isn’t really that difficult or different. You think so … no way. I’m a little afraid of doing this. so trying to find your way on the ground isn’t that easy as you think.. the Me-262B. Nothing can happen even during these dark hours. it still flies great including the good looking instrument. we made a formation flight with lots of practices.. Together with my virtual instructor. I need to fly but with the help of the instructor. we decide to do this and before I know.htm (14 of 18)28/09/2009 5:26:18 PM . Although it’s dark. Since the museum holds this model as well. refueled and other things are done by the ground maintenance division and there we go again. so luminescent dials. See it the same as driving on a road without any street lights and no headlights on. By the way. I lost the way …. Scary.AVSIM Online . One of this was a flip over … sorry … up-side-down flight performance.

I moved all the FSX or FS2004 sliders to the right (maximum) and generated the worse complicated weather conditions. I don’t hold any licenses which comes close to an old WWII military fighter. I know one thing. any jet would have sounded like a scream. At least. Ready for TO. Believe me. FPS (Frames Per Second) Keeping my PC specifications in mind. I flown virtually three different Flight Replica models and I’m well impressed about the flight dynamics or if you will.! This time our flight is much shorter then the two others. Apart from these old movies and brand new recordings of still available and airworthiness models. The term "Screaming Meemie" was applied by US forces after WWII to describe the sound. land. According to Flight Replica. The only available outside lights are the moon and the runway border lights. the offered sound with these Me-262 models is not the real sound but I’ve got the idea it’s pretty close to. who described the sound inside the cockpit as a "quiet hum" compared to pistonengined fighters. The one description I could find of the sound a Me-262 made was by a former Luftwaffe pilot. which can be found on every military base in Germany. I wrote it already. Austria or Switzerland. This brings me also to the end of my virtual flight experience with a WWII fighter and I loved it! Sound We’re not talking here about a new or modern aircraft. The VC cockpit sound has been tailored around this description as much as possible. frames at or around 50 and higher file:///E|/AVSIM/Reviews/Me-262/Me262.” In other words. that the flight characteristics are coming close to the real one. I know. takeoff or final approach. no I feel. flight characteristics or in MSFS terms “the air file”. That’s also the reason why it’s so difficult to figure out if the offered sound by Flight Replicas is the real sound. but to people who had heard only piston engines up to that point. it’s pretty dark outside.Flight Simulation's Number 1 Site! Holding short at 03-21 for a special night flight. This was not a normal virtual day. this depends on ground and/or flight conditions like during a climb. Oops. no taxi and landing lights. For FS2004 the FPS figures are – of course – much higher. it was a very heavy impressive morning and afternoon including an impression during a night flight.AVSIM Online . or when flying in cruise conditions above water. it sounds totally different than normal turbojet engines. I hardly see anything but they don’t see me …. Probably because the instructor is as tired as I am.htm (15 of 18)28/09/2009 5:26:18 PM . it’s not even night –it’s 8:00 PM – but it feels like that. mountains or even during taxiing. Surfing on the Internet and then especially on YouTube gives me the possibility to look at several video’s and try to get a feeling of how it really was. the overall FSX FPS lay between 25-40FPS. the Flight Replica team tells us something about the real story behind it. Of course. Indeed. Although I’ve got no idea how it flies in real life. “there does not appear to be any actual sound recordings of the Jumo 004 engines.

small but deadly German WWII fighter.Trigger button on control stick: The trigger button does not activate any guns. however. to allow users to select frequencies. bomber and/or trainer. file:///E|/AVSIM/Reviews/Me-262/Me262. a long or short summary? I think a short summery since it was really fun flying this baby. .htm (16 of 18)28/09/2009 5:26:18 PM . so users can now have the option if they so choose.AVSIM Online .Correct real head position should be modified from [Views] eyepoint=3.20. and thus your combat flight is smooth and therefore realistic. 2. . 2. as applicable for navigation and communication within FS. This is just a "throw-away" window.50! I doubt if you see this but anyway. you can find much more than this small collection of what can be found here.00. Interesting links Since you can’t go to your local military airbase. Summary / Closing Remarks What will it be. which helps the potential rookie Messerschmitt 262 pilot to become a real virtual pilot. when you “google” or visit “YouTube” by yourself. not as a weapon.00. You only get an FSX model specially designed to work with FSX SP2 or the Acceleration Pack.zip) that does add gun effects to the Messerschmitt 262. I found it via the following link. the developer’s intention was to model the aircraft as a piece of historical technology. Is this all so important. While the 262 was a military aircraft. 0.50 into eyepoint=3. which also on the market. I’ve collected for you some document and video links. so here we go ….Com – Legend Flyers Me-262 A-1 Pilot’s Handbook Debriefing Me-262 form flight instructor Hans Fey Pilots notes Me-262 by Captain Wendel ILA2006 Berlin (original sound) Messerschmitt 262 flight (VIDEO) Great movie of the Schwalbe Me 262 (VIDEO) Remember.Flight Simulation's Number 1 Site! is very normal. 30.18. German radios were too different from anything FS will allow us to use. You don’t get the FS2004 version. included with this package. a freeware package in the AVSIM library (rcbmc-20. 0. There is. 40. Last incoming notes from Flight Replica or items found on the Sky Unlimited forum: . Wikipedia Messerschmitt 262 In General Delaware Valley Historical Aircraft Association Stormbirds. to a flight show or museum where lot’s of information can be found about the Messerschmitt 262. 70 or if you like 100FPS? I don’t think so! Important is that your frame rates while flying only with the VC are high.Radio panel/controls (FSX): Shift-1 should open the radio window. etc.. It should only trigger you’re Messerschmitt feelings and make run to your wallet and buy this nice.

What I Like About The Me-262 q q q q q q q q q “Easy to go” Flight1 installer From-the-ground-up rebuild model.Question Angelique.Nr 111711 allows to carry two bombs but it seems that the user is not able to connect two bombs to the fuselage fittings? Answer Michael Flight Replicas.Revi Gunsite: The Revi gunsite was used to aim the aircraft and its guns at a target. I didn’t miss it at all! Messerschmitt model doesn’t offer a gun “system” but this is available for free via the AVSIM library. highly realistic flight dynamics Manual offers not only standard items but also practical tips Very helpful e-mail support. In that freeware gun effect package(AVSIM rcbmc-20. When you switch it on. . The pilot would sight the target through this. purely for FSX Model also available for use with FS2004 although some VC options are not working Good and realistic looking Messerschmitt Me-262 models Very nice looking Virtual Cockpit with detailed instruments Great Frame Rates As far as I can judge. you will see the round reticle with the cross through it. Are there any animated external panel opening/closing possibilities? Answer Michael Flight Replicas. There are no external panels that open. I put them there for authenticity.Nr 111711 had pylons that could be used for both fuel tanks and bombs. This was done to keep model complexity down. Wk.however. FS does not give us binocular vision.AVSIM Online . but as they were found on the real aircraft. The real 111711 aircraft never used them.Flight Simulation's Number 1 Site! . file:///E|/AVSIM/Reviews/Me-262/Me262. and give better frame rates to the model which is indeed verified. as it was originally placed to be used by one eye . It is slightly to one side.htm (17 of 18)28/09/2009 5:26:18 PM . It seems to me that the Me-262A-2a Wk. the developer tells users to shift their viewpoint slightly in order to centre the reticle.Question Angelique. . What I Don't Like About The Me-262 q q No 2D cockpit but I have to be honest.zip).

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