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November 23rd, 2004

All about saving DWG files
Page 1 of 1 If you've ever wondered if you can control MicroStation V8's behaviour when it comes to saving graphical changes to DWG files, this article is for you. Read along and learn.

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Barry Bentley once wrote “....we have designed the V8 file format to make it possible to do very fast incremental saves so that the auto-saving is very unobtrusive [when working with V8 design files.] However, the DWG format does not permit that - you have to save the whole file from beginning to end every time. In a large file, that can take an appreciable time, during which MicroStation would be unresponsive.” The following information will help you understand how to set up MicroStation to save changes effectively and with minimum interruption. Automatically Save Design Changes When Automatically Save Design Changes is turned on in your workspace preferences, MicroStation will save the graphical changes to the file after 5 minutes or 300 seconds. This time is determined by the configuration variable MS_DWGAUTOSAVE which is described in greater detail below.

During the save operation, MicroStation will pop open a dialog asking if you'd like to save your work. Keep in mind that if you click the OK button, and you just so happen to be in a large DWG file, the save process may take a while during which MicroStation would be unresponsive. The appearance of this dialog is controlled by the configuration variable MS_DWGAUTOSAVE_NODIALOG which is described in greater detail below.

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When Automatically Save Design Changes is turned off, MicroStation will not save the changes to the file until the file is closed. Of course, in the event of a power failure or other problem that would cause MicroStation to close unexpectedly, you will loose your work. To reduce this risk, it's strongly recommended to poke on the save icon after doing a measurable amount of work to the file. This icon appears in the Standard tool box as well as on the right side of the status bar. Alternativly, you could also go to File > Save, or just keyin CTRL+S.

The last thing to mention here is that when Automatically Save Design Changes is turned off, you will be asked if you want to save your work when you close the file as described above. This is similar to how other memory-based programs work.

AutoSave Feature MicroStation V8 2004 Edition has an autosave feature that assists with the saving of DWG files. This feature is controlled by a couple of configuration variables: MS_DWGAUTOSAVE - Internally, this variable is set to the default value of 300 seconds (5 minutes) and is used when Automatically Save Design Changes is turned on. If you find that 5 minutes to either too long or too short, you can define this variable to better suit your needs. The value to use is the number of seconds between saves with a minimum value of 30 seconds.

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Additionally, when this variable is defined you'll notice that Automatically Save Design Changes gets turned on (even if you had it off before defining the variable), and it also becomes grayed out. In summary, when this variable is defined, changes to the file will automatically be saved as per the defined seconds and you will be presented with a dialog asking if you want to save the changes to the file as shown above. MS_DWGAUTOSAVE_NODIALOG - Since DWG files take longer than DGN files to save, MicroStation displays a dialog box allowing you to defer the auto-save operation. If this variable is set, the dialog is skipped and auto-save occurs automatically.

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Inga Morozoff Often referred to as the Mother of MicroStation, Inga can usually be found hunkered down in a hotel room somewhere. If that fails, you can usually find her romping around outside with her dogs. As a last resort, you'll have to head for the hills where she can be found tending to the gardens at Inga Bend de hand. inga.morozoff@bentley.com Printable Version E-mail this Article to a Friend November 23rd, 2004

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Are you an AutoCAD user? Miss your keyboard? Read this article and learn how to make command aliases in MicroStation to smooth your transition.

As a long time Bentley (circa. 1986) user, one of the more common complaints I have heard from those newly aquainted to the software, is that MicroStation is not as customizable as AutoCAD. Nothing could be further from the truth. I have decided, in this article, to refute this notion by way of examples gleaned from personal experience. Let's look at a very common misconception: There is no PGP file and thus no command aliasing in MicroStation. Function Keys Many AutoCAD users, myself included, work in what I like to call a 'two handed' style - One hand on the mouse, one hand on the keyboard. The use of PGP files and LSP/ARX routines can make command aliases a quick and easy way to enter data. When I was first introduced to MicroStation in 1986, I was fortunate enough to have an excellent instructor. Mr. Chris Neelin taught me to use MicroStation in the traditional manner as well as the two-handed method. The latter involved heavy use of the function keys, which at the time, was the only method avialable to users to streamline their workflows. Since a large portion of any CAD work is view manipulation, I learned early, to program the first four function keys as window commands - something I still do today.Pan, Window Area, View Previous and Fit commands should be placed onto function keys F1 through F4 in any comfortable order. Of course, Zoom In and Zoom Out can also be used. By keeping one hand on your mouse and the other hand near the first four function keys, you can quickly learn to navigate throughout your drawing without ever having to look at the keyboard or screen menu.

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Early in my career, I was working at a job where we had no digitizers and no screen menus and I was forced to make an entire set of menus from the function keys. In my "Main" function key menu, F1-F4 were set as window commands, and the other 8 keys were used to attach new menus. For example, F5 was set to: am=placemnt,fk. This attached placemnt.mnu as the new function key menu and it contained 12 placement commands. In placemnt.mnu, F1 was set to: place line;am=funckey,fk which initiated the place line command, and then re-attached the "Main" function key menu.

Note: In AutoCAD, the semicolon ( ; ) acts as an Enter button when it's in a command string. In MicroStation the Enter button is implied at the end of any command string and the semicolon is simply used to separate the various commands within a string. ALT Menu Keyins Another aliasing system in MicroStation is the ALT Key Menu method. Championed by such people as Architect Mr. Bob Keller, the MicroStation pull down menus can be accessed at anytime in the drawing session by way of the ALT key and as such are extremely easy to use and customize. For example, you could create two new pulldowns, Draw and Change using MicroStation's customizing capabilities. These would then be accessed by pressing ALT+D or ALT+C keys. All subsequent commands only need the underlined letter pressed. In the image below, you would press ALT+D+L+S to start the Place Smartline command.

To make a letter 'active' (underlined) when customizing in MicroStation, place a tilde ( ~ ) before the desired letter.

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2001 Top of Page Site Contents Sign-Up | Advanced Search | Tech Support | Linking and XML Feeds | Graffiti | Home | Logout | Edit Profile | Contact | Suggested Reading | Contributing Authors | Recommended Links Copyright © 2006 AskInga.asp?articleID=44 11/7/2006 .Part 1 Page 3 of 3 The ALT Menu method results in an efficient transparent aliasing system that works anytime.com/article. Page 1 of 2 Related Articles 2/6/2001 Command Aliasing . Terms of Use.probably due to driving over too many radio-active frogs while chasing free-range bunny rabbits in his Hummer. Legal.Part 2 page 2 »» Notes about article author: Doug is a fellow Canuk currently working as a Seniour Structural Designer in the state of Washington. you too can set your menu system up such that most commands require no more than 2 key strokes.askinga. any place. Like Bob Keller. All rights reserved.AskInga Article: Command Aliasing .. and Privacy click here http://www. He's recently been diagnosed with an extreme case of AutoCAD distress.. Printable Version E-mail this Article to a Friend February 6th.

AskInga Article: Page 1 of 2 Site Contents Advanced Search Tech Sign-up Logout Edit Profile Contact Suggested Reading Contributing Authors Recommended Links Graffiti Inside » Articles By Category » Articles By Date » Articles By Title » Tips By Category » Tips By Date » Tips By Title Printable Version E-mail this Article to a Friend February 6th.com/article. 2001 «« page 1 Page 2 of 2 Categories 3D AccuDraw Animation / Rendering Behind the Scenes Cells Colours Conversion / Translation Coordinate Input Database Design Settings Dimensions DWG EDG Element Manipulation Element Properties Element Selection Freeware / Shareware Interface Look and Feel Internet / E-Links / Links Keyins Levels Line Styles MicroStation XM Models MSM Archive Other Plotting / Printing Presentations Programming/Automation Raster Images Reference Files Tags / Data Fields / Fields Text / Fonts / Annotation Views Windows (Interacting with) Other Aliasing Solutions Other aliasing systems available include the Alias Manager which is built into MicroStation. If anyone knows where to get a copy of this utility. specifically with AutoCAD user in mind.. It can open a new keyin area. this utility opens a separate keyin field that requires a click to return the focus to this window before each command and is thus not 'transparent'. He's recently been diagnosed with an extreme case of AutoCAD distress. Quick Key is an aliasing system written by Vincent Unrau. Printable Version E-mail this Article to a Friend February 6th. Overkey by Geoff Houck is a two character aliasing system that has been around for some time and works equally well.probably due to driving over too many radio-active frogs while chasing free-range bunny rabbits in his Hummer.Part 2 Notes about article author: Doug is a fellow Canuk currently working as a Seniour Structural Designer in the state of Washington.askinga. However..asp?ArticleID=44&pageNum=2 11/7/2006 . 2001 http://www. or work in the MicroStation keyin field. please drop me a line so I can update this page. You can download your copy from Systems HK «« page 1 Related Articles 2/6/2001 Page 2 of 2 Command Aliasing .

create a new sheet model with the sett shown in the image below.com/article. Updated 2004-03-15 for clarity With the introduction of MicroStation v8. http://www. this one pager discusses how to save a MicroStation V8 DGN file to an AutoCAD DWG and ensure compatibility with paperspace and viewports. Of course if you're completely new to the idea of using models. Lawrence Eaton. To get started.asp?articleID=179 11/7/2006 .AskInga Article: Drawing Composition. The remainder of this article will involve a simple 3D file in which you'll create a sheet model and compose a drawing. download this file. the concept of models was introduced to aid with DWG interoperability and extending the capabilities of MicroStation into the future.askinga. Paperspace and Viewports Page 1 of 4 Site Contents Advanced Search Tech Sign-up Logout Edit Profile Contact Suggested Reading Contributing Authors Recommended Links Graffiti Inside » Articles By Category » Articles By Date » Articles By Title » Tips By Category » Tips By Date » Tips By Title Printable Version E-mail this Article to a Friend February 12th. Models allow MicroStation users the ability to create multiple Design Models and Sheet Models for any one design file. Paperspace and Viewports Page 1 of 2 page 2 Categories 3D AccuDraw Animation / Rendering Behind the Scenes Cells Colours Conversion / Translation Coordinate Input Database Design Settings Dimensions DWG EDG Element Manipulation Element Properties Element Selection Freeware / Shareware Interface Look and Feel Internet / E-Links / Links Keyins Levels Line Styles MicroStation XM Models MSM Archive Other Plotting / Printing Presentations Programming/Automation Raster Images Reference Files Tags / Data Fields / Fields Text / Fonts / Annotation Views Windows (Interacting with) Submitted by the platform hooligan himself. In preparation for saving this design file to a DWG with viewports. It touches on how to compose a drawing of a 3D widget. you may benefit from reviewin this article first: Understanding Models. 200 Drawing Composition.

From the Reference dialog.asp?articleID=179 11/7/2006 . From the reference dialog. http://www. attach the file to itself with the settings shown below. Position the top view within the borders and somewhat on the left side. Set the Attachment Method to Coincident and press OK.. let's add some standard A3 borders.AskInga Article: Drawing Composition. Paperspace and Viewports Page 2 of 4 WorkSpaces/Configuration At this moment you have created a model that will automatically be converted to an AutoCAD paperspace layout when the file is converted from DGN to DWG.dgn.com/article. The sheet layout element that you see on your screen a transient element and can actually used by the plotting process in lieu of a fence.askinga. Navigate to . Continuing on. The next step is to compose a drawing layout of the widget found in the default model.\workspace\examples\borders\iso\ and select A3-Border. select Attach. If you prefer to turn it simple toggle the Display Sheet Layout option in the Model Properties dialog..

On top of that. adjust the settings and follow the prompts..AskInga Article: Drawing Composition. you can also add the right isometric and set the presentation to True Hidden Line. Lines.askinga. Select File > Save As. holiday was a mess. arcs and circles were everywhere.. Paperspace and Viewports Page 3 of 4 To fold off the remaining views. select Copy/Fold Reference.. If you wish. cells were imploding around him and and tho blessed DWG's (with thier little neo socks) were littered around him as if it was recess time at school and were skulking off to the bikesheds for a quick smoke. set the format to save to to AutoCAD Drawing Files (DWG) and then poke on the Options button. 200 Top of Site Contents | Advanced Search | Tech Support | Linking and XML Feeds | Graffiti | Home http://www. From this dialog. The completed layout will be similar to this: Excellent! You are now ready to export the file to DWG .eaton@bentley. navigate to the References tab and take note of the available options: Page 1 of 2 page 2 Lawrence Eaton Lawrence was last seen waving hysterically from a gondola while the Louvre has flooding.complete with Modelspace.com Printable Version E-mail this Article to a Friend February 12th.com/article.asp?articleID=179 11/7/2006 . Paperspace and Viewports. lawrence.

The External Refernece setting controls how attachments are handled when you save a DGN file to a DWG file. cells were imploding around http://www. To eliminate MicroStation opening the resulting DWG file.AskInga Article: Saving DGN to DWG with paperspace and viewports Page 1 of 2 Site Contents Advanced Search Tech Sign-up Logout Edit Profile Contact Suggested Reading Contributing Authors Recommended Links Graffiti Inside » Articles By Category » Articles By Date » Articles By Title » Tips By Category » Tips By Date » Tips By Title Printable Version E-mail this Article to a Friend March 15th. Lines.asp?ArticleID=179&pageNum=2 11/7/2006 .askinga.com/article. you can use File > Export . «« page 1 Page 2 of 2 Lawrence Eaton Lawrence was last seen waving hysterically from a gondola while the Louvre has flooding. Once complete. but you can also choose to merge attachments into the file during the export process. Adjust the setting to Merge Click OK and finish saving the file to DWG. Set the option for Self Attachments to Merge. it is better to retain these types of attachments as XREF's. it's important to recognize that AutoCAD does not support these references and you must therefore merge them in to preserve their display. 2004 Saving DGN to DWG with paperspace and viewports «« page 1 Page 2 of 2 Categories 3D AccuDraw Animation / Rendering Behind the Scenes Cells Colours Conversion / Translation Coordinate Input Database Design Settings Dimensions DWG EDG Element Manipulation Element Properties Element Selection Freeware / Shareware Interface Look and Feel Internet / E-Links / Links Keyins Levels Line Styles MicroStation XM Models MSM Archive Other Plotting / Printing Presentations Programming/Automation Raster Images Reference Files Tags / Data Fields / Fields Text / Fonts / Annotation Views Windows (Interacting with) In our little example file we have both self-attachments that are clipped as well as an external reference. arcs and circles were everywhere. Upon closer inspection of the reference dialog. On top of that. Generally speaking. MicroStation will open the resulting DWG file as your active file. In dealing with the self-attachments.just doublecheck your settings first. you can see that the border file has been merged and the four clipped self-references were converted to viewports within the paperspace environment. his holiday was a mess.

it’s as easy as 1. but using Snutter’s CellUtil makes this a snap to do. Although there may be more than one way of accomplishing this. 2003 How to convert V7 cells into DWG blocks Page 1 of 1 With thanks to Eric Cooper for contributing this tutorial that will show you how to convert MicroStation V7 cells into DWG blocks.AskInga Article: How to convert V7 cells into DWG blocks Page 1 of 2 Site Contents Advanced Search Tech Sign-up Logout Edit Profile Contact Suggested Reading Contributing Authors Recommended Links Graffiti Inside » Articles By Category » Articles By Date » Articles By Title » Tips By Category » Tips By Date » Tips By Title Printable Version E-mail this Article to a Friend June 3rd. this is the method we use in our shop and uses a utility called CellUtil which is available from Snutter. That’s it. Take the issue of saving cells in a cell library out to DWG blocks. In the new file go to Tools > AutoCAD DesignCenter and click on the + beside the exported drawing name. Once the cells have been placed into the design file. We now need to place one instance of each cell into the file. export the file to a DWG file and open it in AutoCAD. create a new design file and attach the cell library you want to convert to DWG blocks. delete all the entities and then create either create a new DWG file or open the DWG file that you need to place the blocks into.2. To insert a block. Like Inga says.askinga. To get started. simply highlight it.com/article. In there you will see a category called Blocks and each indivicual block will be shown on the right side. do a right-click and select the Insert Block option.asp?articleID=143 11/7/2006 . Just load the app. Categories 3D AccuDraw Animation / Rendering Behind the Scenes Cells Colours Conversion / Translation Coordinate Input Database Design Settings Dimensions DWG EDG Element Manipulation Element Properties Element Selection Freeware / Shareware Interface Look and Feel Internet / E-Links / Links Keyins Levels Line Styles MicroStation XM Models MSM Archive Other Plotting / Printing Presentations Programming/Automation Raster Images Reference Files Tags / Data Fields / Fields Text / Fonts / Annotation Views Windows (Interacting with) When sharing data between AutoCAD and MicroStation users it may be necessary to become rather creative in your workflows. go to Tools > Plot and select the appropriate option. Of course you can do this manually. In AutoCAD. and 3! http://www.

Eric is also a strong believer in customization and the productivity gains you can get from a well designed and customized interface. mr.asp?articleID=143 11/7/2006 . Terms of Use. Eric has used nearly every version of AutoCAD ever invented since 1986 and has used MicroStation since 1989.net Printable Version E-mail this Article to a Friend June 3rd. and Privacy click here http://www.com/article. 2003 Top of Page Site Contents Sign-Up | Advanced Search | Tech Support | Linking and XML Feeds | Graffiti | Home | Logout | Edit Profile | Contact | Suggested Reading | Contributing Authors | Recommended Links Copyright © 2006 AskInga. All rights reserved.ecooper@virgin.AskInga Article: How to convert V7 cells into DWG blocks Page 2 of 2 WorkSpaces/Configuration Page 1 of 1 Eric Cooper Eric's a lucky guy in that he's worked for companies that have used both MicroStation and AutoCAD and therefore has an skill-set to be admired.askinga. Legal.

.\Workspace\system\cell\. Although this is optional. Our task is to export this file so that each cell becomes an AutoCAD block..com/article. In the Models dialog you will see that each cell is actually a model as depicted below: http://www. Note that it's hidden by default. What do you do? Read along and learn a nifty little trick in this short article. folder. choose one of the following actions: Select File > Models Keyin model manager Select the Models icon from the Primary Tool tool box. it may seem a bit freaky and suggest that you read Frank Conforti's article titled It's a cell! It's a design file! No! It's a model!.askinga..asp?articleID=138 11/7/2006 .AskInga Article: How to convert V8 cells into DWG blocks Page 1 of 3 Site Contents Advanced Search Tech Sign-up Logout Edit Profile Contact Suggested Reading Contributing Authors Recommended Links Graffiti Inside » Articles By Category » Articles By Date » Articles By Title » Tips By Category » Tips By Date » Tips By Title Printable Version E-mail this Article to a Friend May 14th. To do so. If this is the first time you've done this. Categories 3D AccuDraw Animation / Rendering Behind the Scenes Cells Colours Conversion / Translation Coordinate Input Database Design Settings Dimensions DWG EDG Element Manipulation Element Properties Element Selection Freeware / Shareware Interface Look and Feel Internet / E-Links / Links Keyins Levels Line Styles MicroStation XM Models MSM Archive Other Plotting / Printing Presentations Programming/Automation Raster Images Reference Files Tags / Data Fields / Fields Text / Fonts / Annotation Views Windows (Interacting with) The image below shows the contents of the delivered remodel cell library that's found in the . 2003 How to convert V8 cells into DWG blocks Page 1 of 1 So you got a MicroStation V8 cell library and you've now got to turn them into AutoCAD blocks. Let's do it! First thing to do is to open the cell library as your active design file.. you can also see or verify that each cell is a model by opening the Models dialog.

..asp?articleID=138 11/7/2006 . In the Save As DWG/DXF Options box. and set the Select Format To Save: to AutoCAD Drawing Files and poke on the Options button. http://www.AskInga Article: How to convert V8 cells into DWG blocks Page 2 of 3 WorkSpaces/Configuration Alrighty.askinga. Ensure that Non-Default Design Models is set to Create Separate Files which just so happens to be the default. navigate to the General tab and expand the Advanced option.com/article. once you're in the cell library select File > Save As.

As a last resort. Terms of Use. inga. Once you've confirmed your settings. you'll have to head for the hills where she can be found tending to the gardens at Inga Bend de hand. If that fails.AskInga Article: How to convert V8 cells into DWG blocks Page 3 of 3 Then navigate to the Filter tab. Legal. Page 1 of 1 Inga Morozoff Often referred to as the Mother of MicroStation. Inga can usually be found hunkered down in a hotel room somewhere. click on the Models button and select the cells you want to export.morozoff@bentley.asp?articleID=138 11/7/2006 . click OK in the Save As dialog and let 'er rip! MicroStation V8 will extract each model into a separate DWG file which is exactly what you wanted! Note that that each resulting DWG file will be prepended with the name of the source cell library. 2003 Top of Page Site Contents Sign-Up | Advanced Search | Tech Support | Linking and XML Feeds | Graffiti | Home | Logout | Edit Profile | Contact | Suggested Reading | Contributing Authors | Recommended Links Copyright © 2006 AskInga.askinga. you can usually find her romping around outside with her dogs.com/article.com Printable Version E-mail this Article to a Friend May 14th. and Privacy click here http://www. All rights reserved.

lin respectively and are basically scaled up by a factor of 25. LTSCALE is a setting within AutoCAD that controls the display and printing of all non-continuous line styles or line styles other than style '0'. The metric equivalents are called acadiso. half the length of dashed. 2005 LTSCALE for MicroStation users Page 1 of 1 With thanks to Lincoln Chun for this article that explains the use of LTSCALE in DWG files being edited in MicroStation. You would then have to set the LTSCALE to 100. Before AutoCAD 2004 by default: C:\Program Files\ AutoCAD\Support.AskInga Article: LTSCALE for MicroStation users Page 1 of 2 Site Contents Advanced Search Tech Support Home Sign-up Logout Edit Profile Contact Suggested Reading Contributing Authors Recommended Links Graffiti Inside » Articles By Category » Articles By Date » Articles By Title » Tips By Category » Tips By Date » Tips By Title Printable Version E-mail this Article to a Friend August 17th. AutoCAD 2004 onwards these are found in C:\Documents and Settings\Usename\Application Data\Autodesk\AutoCAD\Support. So when you zoom in you will see the space between the solid bits of line and when you zoom out the line looks like it is continuous. The line type dashed2 is half the length of dashed. (In MicroStation to adjust the LTSCALE keyin \LTSCALE=x where x is a number). The value of the LTSCALE is related to the scale at which your drawings are printed.lin in AutoCAD Lite.asp?articleID=261 11/7/2006 . When this is off all line types display as continuous or style 0.lin in AutoCAD and aclt. http://www. and dashedx2 is twice the size of dashed.lin file consists of a solid line sections 12.35 millimeters (1/4”). These are defined for imperial dimensions. Therefore great consideration must be given to setting the appropriate LTSCALE especially if your custom line styles are dimensionally critical. The default value in DGN files is 0 although 1 seems to have the same effect. Now that MicroStation can read and write to DWG files natively the LTSCALE is a setting that can be set in DGN and DWG files. only globally for every line type! So all your custom line styles will change. It is calledacad.lin and acltiso. designated with a 2 at the end of its name and a larger version twice the regular size.7mm (its default value.175 millimeters (1/8”) and the dashedx2 line type is two times the dashed scale with solid lines 25. It is a simple on-off (\PSLTSCALE =0 or =1) setting that displays the referenced files with the LTSCALE active or not. etc. It gets tricky when you have a single drawing with different details at different scales. Other quirky bits of information: . exactly the same in fact as dashed2. If you were to increase the LTSCALE in this instance and not adjust the zoom there will come a point where the spaces will become visible again.7 millimeters long (1/2”) with a space in between of 6.com/article. Setting it to 50 would result in a printed solid line length of 635mm (2’1’) long. When working in a DWG file a 'hidden’ line (similar to style 2 line style in MicroStation) will consist of a constant length of solid line. this enlarges the solid line 100 times to a length of 1270mm long (4’ 2”) in model space. A text file in AutoCAD controls the display of the different default line styles. It is short for 'line type scale'. The dashed line type for instance from the acadiso.4mm long (1”) with 12.7mm long (1/2”) spaces. The dashed2 line type is half the scale of this consisting of a solid line 6. They are in effect the same file. or work in DWG files. but I use metric).½”). If you open one of these files up in Notepad you will see the name of each line type followed by some dimensions that define the length of solid lines and the length of the spaces between the solid bits.4 (how many millimeters in an inch). Categories 3D AccuDraw Animation / Rendering Behind the Scenes Cells Colours Conversion / Translation Coordinate Input Database Design Settings Dimensions DWG EDG Element Manipulation Element Properties Element Selection Freeware / Shareware Interface Look and Feel Internet / E-Links / Links Keyins Levels Line Styles MicroStation XM Models MSM Archive Other Plotting / Printing Presentations Programming/Automation Raster Images Reference Files Tags / Data Fields / Fields Text / Fonts / Annotation Views Windows (Interacting with) WorkSpaces/Configuration This little explanation is only relevant to you if you plan to save your DGN files as DWG files and to utilize AutoCAD line types as well. For example you are printing a drawing at 1:100 and you want the dashed line type to print with a solid line length of 12.There is another AutoCAD setting called PSLTSCALE (paper space line type scale) that controls the display of line styles in layout spaces.35 millimeters long (1/4”) with a space of 3. The hidden style is a smaller version of dashed. In AutoCAD these files are found in the support folder. Unlike MicroStation AutoCAD line styles are not dynamic in display or printing. a constant space and then a constant length of solid line. Otherwise steer well away from fiddling with the LTSCALE. Note that changing the LTSCALE will impact on the display of any custom line style that you may have created and is like setting the ‘scale factor’ for a line style under the Line Styles dialog box. This problem can be overcome by drawing the details with different line styles. (I apologise to imperial users. Each default style has smaller version half the regular style. designated with x2 at the end.askinga.

We are in an architectural firm and would suggest the fixed setting mentioned above as opposed to a dynamic LTSCALE standard based on drawing scale: Print Scale of Drawing 1:1 1:2 1:5 1:10 1:20 1:50 1:100 1:200 1:500 1:1000 LTSCALE 0.You can import acad. and Privacy click here http://www. For example English American will get you the imperial file and English Australian will get you the metric file. .lin files that control pattern parameters. .75mm (1 ¼”) 63. 2005 Top of Page Site Contents Sign-Up | Advanced Search | Tech Support | Linking and XML Feeds | Graffiti | Home | Logout | Edit Profile | Contact | Suggested Reading | Contributing Authors | Recommended Links Copyright © 2006 AskInga. Lincoln is pretty much the only MicroStation user at his shop.lin file again.175mm (1/8”) 6.5mm (2 ½”) 158.When AutoCAD is loaded onto a computer it looks to the windows language settings to determine which *.35mm (1/4”) 15.If however consist and accurate representation of default line types is paramount. .25 2. lc@lefflersimes. This function has implications in how your seed files are set up. Legal.A general approach of setting the LTSCALE to 50 and using a variety of line types to represent dashed lines at different scales is probably the better means of tackling the issue of LTSCALEs in DWG files.75mm (1 ¼”) 79. In a DWG file using MS08.25 0. after which it reverts back to the original definition.com.02. Lincoln spends his free time thinking up nicknames for the members of a local kangaroo gang that have been spotted hanging out at 7-Eleven recently. compress the file with the delete unused line styles option ticked and then import the *. Using these LTSCALEs will give you a constant printed solid line length of 1.875mm (5/8”) 31. When not designing things to build at LEFFLER SIMES ARCHITECTS.5mm (1’ ½”) 793.5mm (5’ 2 ½”) 3175mm (10’ 5”) Note that using these varying LTSCALEs will completely stuff up the accurate representation of any custom lines in the file.lin files as line styles via the Line Styles Editer dialog box.5 1. My colleague Steve who has used and taught people how to use AutoCAD says that he tries to achieve a printed length of the dashed line at about 3mm long.5mm (5’ 2 ½”) DASHED line length 3.5 25 50 125 250 HIDDEN line length 1.5875mm (1/16”) 3. If you say Yes it will do it temporarily until you save the file.5 5 12.875mm (5/8”) 31. it will not do it.375mm (3 1/8”) 158.35 it will ask if you want to over-write existing styles if the style already exists in the file (these are shown in red in the dialog box).lin or acadiso. following are suggested LTSCALES for drawings from a seasoned AutoCAD user with the solid line lengths of hidden and dashed line styles in model space for reference.lin file to load. but recognises that there is about as much hope for people adopting a standard for the use of LTSCALEs as there is for people using a standard level structure.askinga.75mm (6 ¼”) 317.75mm (2’ 7 ¼”) 1587. If you say No.com/article.au Printable Version E-mail this Article to a Friend August 17th.AskInga Article: LTSCALE for MicroStation users Page 2 of 2 .There are similar text files to the *.75mm (6 ¼”) 317.asp?articleID=261 11/7/2006 .5875mm (1/16”) for hidden lines and 3. If you really want to replace the line style with the same name you must delete all instances of it in the drawing. . They are called acad.pat and acadiso.pat. Page 1 of 1 Related Articles 1/4/2006 All About Custom Line Style Scales Lincoln Chun Surrounded by AutoCAD users and confined to a two story building somewhere in Austrailia.175mm (1/8”) 7. All rights reserved. Terms of Use.9375mm (5/16”) 15.175mm (1/8”) for dashed lines. These are also found in the support folders of AutoCAD and warrant a separate description of their function and use.05.5mm (1’ ½”) 635mm (2’ 1”) 1587.

On some occasions the linestyles will appear to be too small. dwg ltscale [scale_ factor] This is a hangover from AutoCAD and thus is required in V8.asp?TipID=265 11/7/2006 .askinga. 2003 Adjust ltscale when working with DWG files Here's a great tip from Sean Forward: There may be occasions where you get AutoCAD drawings and want to work on them in V8. Well.Your MicroStation Medicine Page 1 of 2 Site Contents Advanced Search Tech Sign-up Logout Edit Profile Contact Suggested Reading Contributing Authors Recommended Links Graffiti Inside » Articles By Category » Articles By Date » Articles By Title » Tips By Category » Tips By Date » Tips By Title Tip of the day . to overcome this there is a AC keyin that has been replicated in MSV8.Your MicroStation Medicine Printable Version «« Previous E-mail this MicroStation Medicine to a Friend Next »» Posted May 14th.AskInga Tip of the day . There are also other AC keyins that are available if you look at the keyin dialog box and look through the DWG keyin list.com/tip. Categories 3D AccuDraw Animation / Rendering Behind the Scenes Cells Colours Conversion / Translation Coordinate Input Database Design Settings Dimensions DWG EDG Element Manipulation Element Properties Element Selection Freeware / Shareware Interface Look and Feel Internet / E-Links / Links Keyins Levels Line Styles MicroStation XM Models MSM Archive Other Plotting / Printing Presentations Programming/Automation Raster Images Reference Files Tags / Data Fields / Fields Text / Fonts / Annotation Views Windows (Interacting with) http://www.

2002 Change background of DWG files You can control the background colour MicroStation V8 uses for AutoCAD DWG files by selecting the DWG Options button prior to opening the file.The color isn't stored in the file at all. Ray Bentley explains: "." With thanks to Sean Forward for submitting this tip.Your MicroStation Medicine Page 1 of 2 Site Contents Advanced Search Tech Sign-up Logout Edit Profile Contact Suggested Reading Contributing Authors Recommended Links Graffiti Inside » Articles By Category » Articles By Date » Articles By Title » Tips By Category » Tips By Date » Tips By Title Tip of the day .AskInga Tip of the day . this preference is not stored with the DWG file.com/tip. It's important to note that while you can change the background colour of a DWG file for viewing inside of MicroStation.Your MicroStation Medicine Printable Version «« Previous E-mail this MicroStation Medicine to a Friend Next »» Posted September 4th..it is not posssible to deliver DWG file with a background color set .asp?TipID=224 11/7/2006 . Categories 3D AccuDraw Animation / Rendering Behind the Scenes Cells Colours Conversion / Translation Coordinate Input Database Design Settings Dimensions DWG EDG Element Manipulation Element Properties Element Selection Freeware / Shareware Interface Look and Feel Internet / E-Links / Links Keyins Levels Line Styles MicroStation XM Models MSM Archive Other Plotting / Printing Presentations Programming/Automation Raster Images Reference Files Tags / Data Fields / Fields Text / Fonts / Annotation Views Windows (Interacting with) http://www. The background color is a setting that goes with the AutoCAD installation (in their equivalent of a prefs file) so the same file may appear with different backgrounds on different computers. This is a global setting that will be applied to all DWG files opened with MicroStation V8..askinga.

com/tip. To turn off the control polygon: DWG SPLFRAME 0 Categories 3D AccuDraw Animation / Rendering Behind the Scenes Cells Colours Conversion / Translation Coordinate Input Database Design Settings Dimensions DWG EDG Element Manipulation Element Properties Element Selection Freeware / Shareware Interface Look and Feel Internet / E-Links / Links Keyins Levels Line Styles MicroStation XM Models MSM Archive Other Plotting / Printing Presentations Programming/Automation Raster Images Reference Files Tags / Data Fields / Fields Text / Fonts / Annotation Views Windows (Interacting with) http://www.asp?TipID=402 11/7/2006 .Your MicroStation Medicine Printable Version «« Previous E-mail this MicroStation Medicine to a Friend Posted February 19th. you can enable the display of B-splines control polygons with the following keyin: DWG SPLFRAME 1.AskInga Tip of the day .askinga.If you're working with a DWG file. 2004 Next »» Display control polygons in DWG files Ray gave up trying to figure out what azijnzuurhoutenankerkettingsluitingslothoutje is and decided to post this on the newsgroup instead: MicroStation V8 .Your MicroStation Medicine Page 1 of 2 Site Contents Advanced Search Tech Sign-up Logout Edit Profile Contact Suggested Reading Contributing Authors Recommended Links Graffiti Inside » Articles By Category » Articles By Date » Articles By Title » Tips By Category » Tips By Date » Tips By Title Tip of the day .

Your MicroStation Medicine Printable Version «« Previous E-mail this MicroStation Medicine to a Friend Next »» Posted June 6th..askinga. http://www. 2003 How to get the as delivered DWG settings back Let's suppose that you checked the Do Not Display Again box when importing a DWG file. Categories 3D AccuDraw Animation / Rendering Behind the Scenes Cells Colours Conversion / Translation Coordinate Input Database Design Settings Dimensions DWG EDG Element Manipulation Element Properties Element Selection Freeware / Shareware Interface Look and Feel Internet / E-Links / Links Keyins Levels Line Styles MicroStation XM Models MSM Archive Other Plotting / Printing Presentations Programming/Automation Raster Images Reference Files Tags / Data Fields / Fields Text / Fonts / Annotation Views Windows (Interacting with) With thanks to Uncle Phil for sharing this on the v8.asp?TipID=291 11/7/2006 .rsc and all the DWG settings will go back to thier as-installed settings..general newsgroup..AskInga Tip of the day .Your MicroStation Medicine Page 1 of 2 Site Contents Advanced Search Tech Sign-up Logout Edit Profile Contact Suggested Reading Contributing Authors Recommended Links Graffiti Inside » Articles By Category » Articles By Date » Articles By Title » Tips By Category » Tips By Date » Tips By Title Tip of the day .and now you want it back. All you got to do is nuke .\Home\prefs\dwgdata\dwgsettings.com/tip..

askinga." Categories 3D AccuDraw Animation / Rendering Behind the Scenes Cells Colours Conversion / Translation Coordinate Input Database Design Settings Dimensions DWG EDG Element Manipulation Element Properties Element Selection Freeware / Shareware Interface Look and Feel Internet / E-Links / Links Keyins Levels Line Styles MicroStation XM Models MSM Archive Other Plotting / Printing Presentations Programming/Automation Raster Images Reference Files Tags / Data Fields / Fields Text / Fonts / Annotation Views Windows (Interacting with) http://www.Your MicroStation Medicine Printable Version «« Previous E-mail this MicroStation Medicine to a Friend Next »» Posted May 14th.asp?TipID=267 11/7/2006 . 2003 MS_BLOCKLIST versus MS_CELLLIST In MicroStation V8: MS_CELLLIST is a list of cell library files to be searched for cells if not found in the current library.dwg newsgroup: "MS_BLOCKLIST and MS_CELLLIST essentially get to the same place in the code. So the question is: Is there really a difference? Phil Chouinard answered this on the v8. they're named differently as a way to keep the chocolate separate from the peanut butter.AskInga Tip of the day . MS_BLOCKLIST is a list of DWG/DXF files to be searched for AutoCAD blocks.com/tip.Your MicroStation Medicine Page 1 of 2 Site Contents Advanced Search Tech Sign-up Logout Edit Profile Contact Suggested Reading Contributing Authors Recommended Links Graffiti Inside » Articles By Category » Articles By Date » Articles By Title » Tips By Category » Tips By Date » Tips By Title Tip of the day .

How do I open a DWG file in MicroStation V8? Can I change any settings when opening a DWG? Which workmodes does MicroStation V8 support? What are the restrictions to the DWG workmode? How do I use . 9. 5. 7.00.SELECTservices | 6216 . http://selectservices. 11/7/2006 .. Highlight the file you wish to open and select OK. 6. text styles.shx and .com/en-US/Support/Support+Tools/TechNotes+and+FAQs/MicroStation+V8/DW. What is used as the source file for the new DWG file? Does MicroStation 2004 Edition support AutoCAD 2005 files? >> more Question 1: How do I open a DWG file in MicroStation V8? Answer: To open a DWG in MicroStation V8 from the MicroStation Manager. Windows NT® 4 (SP6 recommended). Windows XP Professional.DWG File FAQ Page 1 of 7 Login | Site Map | Print | Store Search Select Locale verticals products support services training community Quick Links corporate Support Support Tools KnowledgeBase TechNotes and FAQs Remote Support Live Chat Discussion Groups AutoPLANT Error Reports DWG FILE FAQ Subject: Product: Operating System: DWG File MicroStation V8 << Return to Index Windows® 2000. Windows Me..Online License Tool FAQ Index: 1.V8 Product License File Names 8330 .bentley. 10. the seed file specified in the DWG Options.21. and paper space layouts that are missing from the resulting DWG file. New TechNotes MDL .00. 2. has dimension styles.The MicroStation Development Language MicroStation V8 Programming Tools Readme 8271 . Windows XP Home Edition.ttf fonts in MicroStation V8? How do I save a file as a DWG? In the Save As dialog box what is the Advanced tab used for? Why does "Zoom Extents" in AutoCAD look different from a "Fit View" in MicroStation? When saving a DGN as a DWG file. 3.Bentley Hardware Partners Work Stations 6225 . 8. 4. change the list files of type to CAD Files (or DWG). Windows 98 (Second Edition recommended) 6216 Document Number: Note: This FAQ applies to MicroStation V8 v08.

com/en-US/Support/Support+Tools/TechNotes+and+FAQs/MicroStation+V8/DW. it must also have units.Architectural/Engineering and Decimal/Scientific/Fractional: MicroStation V8 uses units so when a DWG file is opened in MicroStation V8. Units .. http://selectservices. 2.Architectural/Engineering and Decimal/Scientific/Fractional View window background colors for the design model ("model space") and the sheet model ("paper space"). 3. Units . a user should select Inches so that the result will be compatible. DGN seed file:The seed file will contain items such as the working unit labels and the design file settings. if AutoCAD file units are set to Architectural.. This button is present only while a DWG or DXF file is selected in the Files list box.bentley. DGN seed file To set these options. 11/7/2006 . All AutoCAD file units are listed in the dialog box to let user choose.DWG File FAQ Page 2 of 7 Question 2: Can I change any settings when opening a DWG? Answer: The following options can be set specifically when working with DWGs: 1. The units option will allow the user to tell MicroStation V8 what units to be used when opening a DWG file. click the DWG Options button in the Open File or MicroStation Manager dialog box.SELECTservices | 6216 . For example. View window background colors for the design model ("model space") and the sheet model ("paper space"): This is the only place that the background color can be set.

The Edit Configuration File dialog box opens. 2. choose Save. However. The Configuration dialog box opens. when you open a DWG file.SELECTservices | 6216 . In the New Value field. From the Workspace menu.. Click Edit. Exit and restart MicroStation V8. 11/7/2006 . 7. an icon is displayed in the status bar. key in DWG Restriction or DGN Capacity. To set the workmode: 1. In the alphabetical list of configuration variables. While DWG mode is enabled. Click OK. From the dialog box's File menu. 8. select MS_WORKMODE. The focus returns to the Configuration dialog box.DWG File FAQ Page 3 of 7 Back to Index Question 3: Which workmodes does MicroStation V8 support? Answer: MicroStation V8 supports the following workmodes: DGN (Defines the DGN Capacity workmode) DWG (Defines the DWG Restriction workmode) V7 (Defines the V7 workmode) The current workmode is specified by the configuration variable MS_WORKMODE. 5. Click OK. DWG mode is automatically enabled regardless of the MS_WORKMODE value. 6. choose Configuration.. 4. http://selectservices. 3.com/en-US/Support/Support+Tools/TechNotes+and+FAQs/MicroStation+V8/DW.bentley. The icon depicts a white crosshair on a red background.

References: The active model cannot be self-referenced.bentley. Line styles: Line styles 1-7 are disabled and only custom line styles are allowed. If you choose to use the color palette of the raster file .the color palette changes. Only future file modifications are affected. To set the display for models and layouts of DWG files. A reference cannot be clipped by mask... key in ACTIVE GRIDANGLE <rotation_angle> or define and rotate an ACS. no other color tables can be loaded. Element class: The Active Class is set to Primary and cannot be changed.SELECTservices | 6216 . To rotate the grid about its Z-axis. An exception to this is that you can still change the color palette by importing raster files. 11/7/2006 . The following list summarizes the MicroStation V8 limitations while in DWG workmode: Colors: The DWG color palette is the only color table loaded.. Dimensioning: The following dimension settings and capabilities are not supported: Custom prefixes and suffixes Dimension line level Dimensioning at an "arbitrary" position Terminator-specific symbology Terminator character symbol First and joint terminator types for consecutive dimensions Custom units Unit separation at thousandth and millionth Secondary dimension-specific leading/trailing zeros http://selectservices.) is disabled.. you turn off Current Color Palette . The menu item Settings > Color Table is disabled.com/en-US/Support/Support+Tools/TechNotes+and+FAQs/MicroStation+V8/DW. the DWG workmode ensures maximum DWG format capability by restricting certain MicroStation V8 functionality from creating information that can not be stored in DWG.DWG File FAQ Page 4 of 7 Question 4: What are the restrictions to the DWG workmode? Answer: Due to limitations in the DWG format.that is. Note that simply changing workmodes will not modify existing geometry. View window background color: The Black Background > White preference in the View Options category of the Preferences dialog box (Workspace > Preferences. Grid orientation: The grid is aligned with a Top view such that it extends along the X and Y axes from the global origin. use the DWG Options dialog box just before opening a DWG or DXF file.

Dimension-driven design: Dimension-driven design tools are disabled. RLC. Complex elements: Spline curves cannot be selected as part of a complex chain or complex shape.DWG File FAQ Page 5 of 7 Alternate labeling Arc symbol above text displayed at an angle Arc-length format for angular dimension Cell terminator-specific width and height Additional note: All dimensions must be placed using a dimension style. Groups cannot be named. 11/7/2006 . Mask clipping. Sun raster.cel". RGB. Image background color control (disabled for binary images only). contains a "Standard" style. procedural application files. PNG.in Pattern File or click the adjacent magnifying glass icon to browse the file system. Back to Index Question 5: How do I use . by default. Image transparency control (disabled for binary. 3D modeling: 3D elements can be placed only as ACIS bodies.0). are disabled. Image display gamma control (this setting is fixed at 1. Cells: Normal (unshared) cells are not supported in DWG.. key in its full file specification .ttf fonts in MicroStation V8? Answer: MicroStation supports text styles and provides an interface for constructing text with available system fonts and a wide variety of text attributes The following fonts are supported natively in MicroStation: http://selectservices. Importing raster images: Intergraph raster images. Attaching images in formats other than BMP. CALS-I. This file contains a DWG pattern definition for each pattern cell in the supplied cell library.0). PCX. the component elements are stored as a group (also known as an orphan cell). Geo-referenced TIFF files. lists the patterns in the DWG pattern file "areapat. When you open a DGN file that does not contain or refer to any dimension styles. Area patterning: Area patterning is replaced by AutoCAD pre-defined hatching. Rather. To select a different DWG pattern file.com/en-US/Support/Support+Tools/TechNotes+and+FAQs/MicroStation+V8/DW. JFIF/JPEG.. and COT images only . Reference agent. TARGA. MicroStation V8 copies the Standard style is copied to the DGN file. Managing raster files: Raster Manager does not support the following capabilities: Assigning logical names and descriptions to attached images.path and filename . Attaching of Viecon Publisher images. and Img files cannot be imported.dwg". which are used to place and edit flags.settings are fixed). When you place a normal cell. Tags: Tag elements can be attached only to cells.shx and . a Type 2 cell name element is not stored in the open file. "areapat. Display of attached images on a per view basis. Scaling images non-proportionally.pat". "seed. The seed DWG file. Image plot gamma control (this setting is fixed at 1. Image-specific printing.SELECTservices | 6216 .Invert is on). and TIFF. Annotating with flags: Tools in the Annotate tool box. The Parasolid modeling engine is disabled. The Pattern field in the Pattern Area settings window is a combo box which.bentley. Image inversion control (disabled for binary images only . Image tint control.

In both software packages. seed files are used to create new files. you would select the Window 1 option here.com/en-US/Support/Support+Tools/TechNotes+and+FAQs/MicroStation+V8/DW. has dimension styles. This is beneficial especially if the file must be opened in AutoCAD. but if rendering is important it is probably desirable to set this setting to "3D Only". In order for AutoCAD to render these as opaque. this allows the setting of the units for the DWG file. Set this to the folder containing the AutoCAD fonts (.shx). when working in MicroStation. the resulting new file will be based on the seed/template. As 2D files are not useful for rendering. The last option allows you to select a file to specify a prototype drawing file or seed file to determine settings to the translated drawing file. Another SaveAs option that is beneficial for opening the file is converting your font over to AutoCAD fonts. What is used as the source file for the new DWG file? Answer: When working in AutoCAD.. and paper space layouts that are missing from the resulting DWG file. A file with Region entities is typically substantially larger and slower to work with in AutoCAD. Level Display: This option controls the view you would like to use for your level display when exporting the file. template files are used to create new files. 11/7/2006 .shx). Circle.SELECTservices | 6216 . the seed file specified in the DWG Options. Units: The next options is units.shx) If AutoCAD is installed. If AutoCAD is not installed but the AutoCAD fonts (. Now select the DWG Option button. This is the most compact representation and is sufficient for most purposes. However. the "Always" setting is typically not appropriate. Workspace > Configuration > MS_DWGFONTPATH. Back to Index Question 7: In the Save As dialog box what is the advanced tab used for? Answer: The Advanced Tab currently includes a single setting: Create Regions From Closed Elements: (Never. The MicroStation "Fit" tool will fit only visible geometry. MicroStation by default will read the AutoCAD fonts (. it is necessary to save them as the more heavyweight "Region" entity. AutoCAD does not treat these entities as opaque entities for rendering purposes. The AutoCAD "Zoom Extents" area will include layers that have display turned off. The AutoCAD Zoom-Extents command does not fit frozen layers.. In MicroStation you can use a DWG seed to create a DWG file or a DGN seed to create a DGN file. Ellipse or Shape element with more than 4 vertices. http://selectservices. Always). You can browse and find the location of the SHX files that you want to map your fonts to. If this setting is set to "Never" (or "3D Only" and model is 2D) these entities are stored in AutoCAD files as either closed PolyLines. Question 8: Why does "Zoom Extents" in AutoCAD look different from a "Fit View" in MicroStation? Answer: Check the geometry on layers that are turned off. text styles. In other words if you have a certain level display in Window 1 and you would like to use this.bentley. This setting controls the type of AutoCAD entity that will be created from a Complex Shape. Question 6: How do I save a file as a DWG? Answer: From the Save As interface choose the "AutoCAD Drawing file" option under the List of file type option.shx) are available a configuration variable can be set.DWG File FAQ Page 6 of 7 MicroStation True Types AutoCAD fonts (. Circles or Ellipse entities. DWG version: This will allow you to select the version of AutoCAD you wish to save to. 3D Only. Save Reference as a DWG/DXF: This option lets you save your reference file out in DWG or DXF format. Back to Index Question 9: When saving a DGN as a DWG file. If you wish to have the AutoCAD "Zoom Extents" tool ignore geometry on a certain layer then it will be necessary to "Freeze" the layer.

such as specific dimension styles or text styles that need to exist in all DWG files. given that in past versions of MicroStation we had to export the information out of MicroStation into AutoCAD. For settings such as dimension styles or text styles both files have equivalent settings. 11/7/2006 .. Another option is to import the dimension or text styles into the DWG in AutoCAD after using the File > Save As command. If you have a set of standards that the resulting DWG files have to meet. these styles can be created in a dgnlib file and used throughout the project files. but it isn't based on a seed/template. In conversion. If you select File > Save As you still create a new file.com/en-US/Support/Support+Tools/TechNotes+and+FAQs/MicroStation+V8/DW. Therefore. When exporting we did use the seed file to create the new DWG. no extra information will be created. This usage of the seed file is a bit confusing. nothing less. The content of the active file is saved to a new file that is exactly the same as what is being saved. because a DGN file must have Working Units. when saving a DWG file to DGN. Nothing more. Support for these new features is planned for the next version of MicroStation. The DWG file format is a subset of the DGN file format. AutoCAD 2005 and AutoCAD 2004 share the same file format. If you do not wish to use dgnlib files. MicroStation has Working Units. there are settings that will pull the Working Units for the converted DGN file from a specified DGN seed file. Question 10: Does MicroStation 2004 Edition support AutoCAD 2005 files? Answer: Yes.BENTLEY http://selectservices.5 this is not the case.. Although similar. During conversion. they are not the same. tables. it is based on the file being saved. there can be settings that do not exist in the original format but are necessary for the resultant format. Back to Index 6216 How useful was this page? less 1 2 3 4 5 more Suggest new content or let us know how we can improve this content (optional): << E-mail this page Submit © 2006 Bentley Systems.800. An example of this is seen when saving a DWG file as a DGN file. When saving (converting) files from one format to another.SELECTservices | 6216 . new AutoCAD 2005 features such as sheet sets. so only the dimension or text styles contained in the DWG file will be saved into the new DGN file.DWG File FAQ Page 7 of 7 This applies only to the creation of a new file using the File > New command. In MicroStation V8. and AutoCAD has a single drawing unit. you also use the File > Save As command. MicroStation displays. There is no comprehensive list of what settings are controlled by the seed file when going from one format to another. the dimension and text styles can be imported into the DGN file prior to saving to DWG. so we are transforming existing data and do not actually create a new file. The rule of thumb is that anything that does not exist in the original format but is required in the resultant format will be taken from the seed file. but does not allow manipulation of. and fields.bentley. Incorporated Privacy | Terms of Use | Webmaster | 1. so MicroStation 2004 Edition will open AutoCAD 2005 files without any problems.

Consider the example below. As AutoCAD interprets every attachment as implicitly displaying its children (unless they are overlays) converting a DGN file to DWG implicitly enables live nesting in the converted file.. Unfortunately this is not possible.dgn that is attached as a standard attachment (not an overlay).Online License Tool FAQ MicroStation V8 includes the ability for live nesting of reference files in a manner very similar to AutoCAD. This setting controls whether children of a reference file are displayed at all and if they are displayed. The difference is that the parent attachment controls whether the children are displayed rather than the children themselves controlling their nested display. MicroStation allows two separate settings that control whether live nesting occurs.V8 Product License File Names 8330 . b. Windows 98 (Second Edition recommended) 8235 Document Number: New TechNotes MDL . In MicroStation it is possible to attach a. Essentially this means that referencing a file causes its children (and potentially their children) to be automatically referenced as well. Windows NT® 4 (SP6 recommended). The first setting controls whether an attachment is displayed as a nested file. the depth to which the children are nested.Reference File Nesting with DGN and DWG Files TechNote Page 1 of 2 Login | Site Map | Print | Store Search Select Locale verticals products support services training community Quick Links corporate Support Support Tools KnowledgeBase TechNotes and FAQs Remote Support Live Chat Discussion Groups AutoPLANT Error Reports REFERENCE FILE NESTING WITH DGN AND DWG FILES TECHNOTE Subject: Product: Operating System: Reference File Nesting with DGN and DWG Files MicroStation V8 << Return to Index Windows® 2000. Windows XP Home Edition. AutoCAD has an identical concept except that it refers to attachments of this type (ignored during live nesting) as an "Overlay".. Windows Me. A MicroStation design file.dgn) or to disable the display of children by turning off live nesting (as in d. >> more http://selectservices. The lack of control for reference nesting from the parent attachment can cause some confusion when a set of DGN drawings is converted to AutoCAD format. 11/7/2006 . At a quick glance it would seem that it would be possible to simulate MicroStation's parental control of nest depth by creating Overlays whenever a parent attachment disables live nesting.Bentley Hardware Partners Work Stations 6225 .SELECTservices | 8235 . Except for the difference in nomenclature there is no difference in this setting or how it is used in the two programs. Windows XP Professional.dgn as a reference and include the display of b.bentley.dgn (as in c. a.com/en-US/Support/Support+Tools/TechNotes+and+FAQs/MicroStation+V8/Refer.dgn). In MicroStation. This setting is controlled through the "Ignore Attachment When Live Nesting" checkbox on the attachment settings dialog. The second setting is subtly different than the "Ignore/Overlay" setting discussed above and is supported only by MicroStation. a nested attachment is displayed only if the child does not have its "Ignore When Live Nesting" setting on AND the parent has live nesting enabled.dgn has a single reference.The MicroStation Development Language MicroStation V8 Programming Tools Readme 8271 .

dwg.800. then ALL reference attachments are created as overlays . If reference b. This usage is enforced when DWG workmode is enabled. If the "Create Overlays for Reference Attachments" checkbox is selected. If b.com/en-US/Support/Support+Tools/TechNotes+and+FAQs/MicroStation+V8/Refer.bentley. This effectively disables live nesting in the DWG output file. this setting is appropriate for Version 7 files that have not had Live Nesting enabled. This can be useful for a file where live nesting is turned off for all attachments. Incorporated Privacy | Terms of Use | Webmaster | 1. In order to address the somewhat common special case where the no live nesting is used. 8235 How useful was this page? less 1 2 3 4 5 more Suggest new content or let us know how we can improve this content (optional): << E-mail this page Submit © 2006 Bentley Systems.Reference File Nesting with DGN and DWG Files TechNote Page 2 of 2 In AutoCAD there is no way to create the set of files above.02 an additional control has been added to the "Advanced" tab of the "Save As" DWG Options dialog.00.dwg as an overlay then it will not appear in c. in version 08.SELECTservices | 8235 . 11/7/2006 .whether or not their "Ignore When Live Nesting" setting is on.BENTLEY http://selectservices. The only completely accurate method for resolving this inconsistency is to turn on live nesting (with a high depth value) and to use the "Ignore When Live Nesting" control exclusively to control reference nesting.dwg when it should not.dwg is attached to a.02.dwg is not attached as an overlay then it will appear in d.. As Version 7 of MicroStation did not support live nesting..

1.5.Line Styles and DWG Files TechNote Page 1 of 7 Login | Site Map | Print | Store Search Select Locale verticals products support services training community Quick Links corporate Support Support Tools KnowledgeBase TechNotes and FAQs Remote Support Live Chat Discussion Groups AutoPLANT Error Reports LINE STYLES AND DWG FILES TECHNOTE Subject: Product: Operating System: Line Styles and DWG Files MicroStation V8 << Retur Windows® 2000. more complicated line style type can contain either text from a text style or shapes from an SHX file.The MicroStation Development Language MicroStation V8 Programming Tools Readme 8271 .S=..Style with dashes and dots ____ .2) unit gap. Exa *DISTWTR.V8 Product License File Names 8330 .2. Windows Me.5) unit dash followed by a (0.STANDARD.5.15. ____ .["DIST".05]..X=-0.-. Because of this disparity. It is followed by positive numbers to denote dashes and negative numbers to denote gaps.25 Example of Distilled Water Linestyle in AutoCAD http://selectservices. Some features are lost in the translation.LIN file is what in used definition. _ A. Windows NT® 4 (SP6 recommended).-.0. In (0.2 >> more Example of Dash Dot Linestyle in AutoCAD The first line provides the name and description..com/en-US/Support/Support+Tools/TechNotes+and+FAQs/MicroStation+V8/Line. consider an AutoCAD line style specification in a . while other line styles will not translate at a To get a better understanding. Windows 98 (Second Edition recommended) 8240 Document Number: How line styles are represented in DWG New TechNotes MDL .Y=-. 11/7/2006 .2. and the second line provides the definition. these files can also be used in MicroStation by choosing File > Import in the line style editor. ____ . The A stands for "Align character on the line.LIN file.bentley. there are a number of features in not translate directly to DWG. A .Distilled Water Line -----DIST-----DIST-----DIST-----DIST----A. First are dash-dots.-. which are roughly equivalent to MicroStation Strokes: *DashDot.SELECTservices | 8240 .Online License Tool FAQ DWG line styles are a subset of MicroStation line styles.LIN file. Windows XP Professional.-. A second..2) unit gap then a dot (0 length dash) followed by another (0. There are 2 represented in a .Bentley Hardware Partners Work Stations 6225 . ____ . Windows XP Home Edition.

2. Example of Diamond Linestyle in MicroStation Any style with point symbols at the beginning. middle.shx. if you can't specify it in this format. such as { Diamond }. such as { Arrow } http://selectservices. then you can Line styles that will not translate In practice. The items inside the brackets [] define either a tex in DISTWTR.. or end of the line segment. You can specify the X and Y offsets.-.bentley. 11/7/2006 . such as { Railroad }. These features are all that is available in a DWG line type.com/en-US/Support/Support+Tools/TechNotes+and+FAQs/MicroStation+V8/Line.2. and therefore will not appea work mode: Any style with offset lines.[CIRC1. the rota shape.A. this means that line styles with the following features can not be exported.ltypeshp. Example of Rail Road Linestyle Any style with non-uniform dash thickness.SELECTservices | 8240 .Fenceline circle ----0-----0----0-----0----0-----0-. or a shape name and a shape file name as in FENCELINE.0.5..x=-.Line Styles and DWG Files TechNote Page 2 of 7 Detail of "DIST" location in linestyle in AutoCAD *FENCELINE1.s=- Example of Fence Linestyle The dashes and gaps remain the same as for dash-dot patterns.

.-0.1.. 2 lines placed with "Style X" one at 13" and one at 15" The most severe consequence of this alignment style is that all MicroStation line styles will appear with this alignme this method of generating the line style was added to MicroStation and is called "Shift: Centered" in MicroStation's types will be translated to this style when converting to DWG. DWG only permits cosmetic (as opposed to functional) line styles.5 This line style definition is a total of 4 inches long. making it 3 inches long.Set of dashes __ _ __ _ __ A. consider th file with inches as working units: *StyleX. The starting dash is the beginning of the line and half at the end of the line. The extra 1 inch is added to the starting dash. This is not possible in DWG because all line styles are displa This algorithm does guarantee that there will be dashes on either end of a line.5 inches long. Now if you stretch that line to be 15 inches.SELECTservices | 8240 . For example. Although most line styles fall into t depend on having specific symbols in specific locations.bentley.5.2.Line Styles and DWG Files TechNote Page 3 of 7 Example of Diamond Linestyle in MicroStation Any style with more than 30 total Dash and/or Gap segments Line style location appearance in DWG Furthermore.com/en-US/Support/Support+Tools/TechNotes+and+FAQs/MicroStation+V8/Line.5 inches long to 2. http://selectservices. If you place a line that is 13 inches long using this style. the only thing that and ending dashes.-0. there ar remainder of 1 inch. the maximum number of full iterations of the style are centered on the line segment. but the location of the symbols is ca First. which will change from 1. 11/7/2006 .

If you plan to use any of these styles.LIN files require a text style to be present in the file. followed by an unders For instance. the Save As remap facility will allow you to change any line style to any other line style by name. the example line style { Ground Line } resides in lstyle. This convention is used so that symbols can be reused for different line styles and files. 11/7/2006 .rsc and contains a point symbol "ground". When these are encountered. http://selectservices.styles that will not export Some line styles won't export due to the limitations in the DWG line style system.bentley. the elements in t a shape during the translation. Using this facility line styles will ap but the lines will not be modifiable. Each symbol in the font file will start with the name of the resource file. Another Save As option is to drop any non-exportable line styles to components. If this tighter limitation is desired.com/en-US/Support/Support+Tools/TechNotes+and+FAQs/MicroStation+V8/Line. The font file is named dgnlstyle..LIN file. it can be achieved by disabling the capability CAPABILITY_ALLOW_NO Alternative line style strategies .SELECTservices | 8240 . you can use the following configuration variables: MS_DWG_LSTYLE_FONTPATH determines the location for the font file. Point Symbol Behavior previous to MicroStation V8..1 the behavior of the line style system was to reject any line style that ca a .shx and will appear in your DWG fonts directory just file to appear in another directory. The only cav in . the First.1 In all MicroStation versions previous to 8. The LSTYLE_GROUND. up to 10 characters. MS_DWG_LSTYLE_FONTNAME determines the name of the font file (and therefore the name of the font).Line Styles and DWG Files TechNote Page 4 of 7 Custom Line Style Editor showing "Shift: Center" option Exporting point symbols Because all point symbols in DWG line styles must be represented as shapes in an SHX shape file. you should ensure th name appears in the file before remapping.

2.SELECTservices | 8240 . unlike the global scale factor. MicroStation did not support the internal storage of linestyle definitions within the design file.. This file is create file.rsc).bentley. From a MicroStation resource file (RSC).Line Styles and DWG Files TechNote Page 5 of 7 How internally stored linestyles are handled when saving to V7 Previous to V8. This. 2. From a definition stored within the active design file. by multiplying the global scale factor of the active design f linestyle scale factor. It is also possible to control custom linestyle scales per level Bylevel and Level Overrides through the Styles tab of t accessible from the Level Manager Dialog (Levels > Properties). This will override the element scale but will still be factor. This is different than the Scale Factor setting in the Line Styles dialog box. From the Element menu choose Line Styles > Edit (The "Line Style Editor" dialog will open) From the Line Style Editor dialog.. choose Line Styles > Edit (The "Line Style Editor" dialog will open) From the Line Style Editor dialog. choose File > Import and select either "AutoCAD Line Style File (LIN)" or " Browse to the linestyle file and choose "OK" (The "Select Linestyles to Import" dialog will open) Select linestyle(s) to import and choose "Import" Note: The styles will not appear in the Line Style Editor. MicroStation can also export linestyles that are stored within a design file. They will only be visible in linestyle attribute combo boxes style(s) will only be available within the Design file that the style was imported. MicroStation V8 can import line styles from an AutoCAD LIN file as well as from the standard MicroStation RSC file ( Edition). key in: ACTIVE LINESTYLE SCALE [scale factor] or DWG LTSCALE [scale f within the active file as well as any attached references. choose File > Export From DGN Browse to desired location and give a name to the linestyle resource file to be that will be created Note: The linestyle resource must be placed in a folder as defined by the variable MS_SYMRSRC and MicroStation w to use the linestyles contained within. a line style resource file is generated (<filename>_lstyle. From the Element menu. Controlling custom linestyle scale Custom linestyle scale can be controlled 3 ways: Global scale factor Per element Per level (Bylevel or Override) To control custom linestyle scale globally.com/en-US/Support/Support+Tools/TechNotes+and+FAQs/MicroStation+V8/Line. which will set the scale factor for new ele design. 11/7/2006 . 3. to an RSC file (new in MicroStation V8 20 To export a Line style: 1. their definitions are saved intern To import a Line style: 1. When contains linestyle definitions) to V7. 3. When the line styles are imported they are written directly into the DGN. http://selectservices. 4. The resource file must be placed in a folder as defined by the variable MS_SYMBRSRC in order for the V7 file to Resolving custom linestyle definitions in MicroStation MicroStation can resolve custom linestyle definitions from two places. is respected through references.

. 11/7/2006 .bentley.Line Styles and DWG Files TechNote Page 6 of 7 Custom LineStyle with no scales set Custom Linestyle with ACTIVE LINESTYLESCALE set to 2 in master file Custom LineStyle with ACTIVE LINESTYLESCALE set to 0 and Custom linestyle scale set to 2 for the elem to 3 for the elements in the Reference file. http://selectservices..SELECTservices | 8240 .com/en-US/Support/Support+Tools/TechNotes+and+FAQs/MicroStation+V8/Line. You can also control linestyle scales in ByLevel and Level Overrides through the Styles tab of the Level Properties d Manager (Levels > Properties).

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. but are not available or unspecified in the selected file. >> more 2.The MicroStation Development Language MicroStation V8 Programming Tools Readme 8271 . Windows NT® 4 (SP6 recommended). 2 and 5 respectively) do not imply a specific unit of measurement. Many of MicroStation's tools. Files with Engineering and Architectural (LUNITS =3 & 4) are implicitly English units. select the "Do Not Display" toggle to avoid seeing this alert box again. Fractional or Scientific and units other than Design Center have been selected. Alert Box for Unknown Units In version 08. rely on the file units to work correctly. such as dimensioning.00 an alert box is automatically displayed when a file is opened and the units are not known.bentley. A second value (INSUNITS) was introduced in AutoCAD 2000 to further specify units and allow for the type of automatic scaling that MicroStation V8 performs when "True Scaling" is specified. Windows XP Home Edition. Scientific. Windows XP Professional. The file is either Decimal. If you know that the units are correct for all files of this type. 11/7/2006 . It the units displayed are correct than you can simply hit OK. There are three circumstances where the dialog will appear. Unfortunately in many AutoCAD files it is not possible for MicroStation to accurately infer the file units.Bentley Hardware Partners Work Stations 6225 .00.04. Decimal and Fractional (LUNITs = 1. The other types. placing cells and reference files.SELECTservices | 8251 . Windows 98 (Second Edition recommended) 8251 Document Number: New TechNotes MDL . There are essentially two types of linear units used in AutoCAD as specified by the AutoCAD "LUNITS" variable.com/en-US/Support/Support+Tools/TechNotes+and+FAQs/MicroStation+V8/DW. This would be the most common occurrence. Windows Me.DWG DXF Units Alert Box TechNote Page 1 of 3 Login | Site Map | Print | Store Search Select Locale verticals products support services training community Quick Links corporate Support Support Tools KnowledgeBase TechNotes and FAQs Remote Support Live Chat Discussion Groups AutoPLANT Error Reports DWG/DXF UNITS ALERT BOX TECHNOTE Subject: Product: Operating System: DWG/DXF Units Alert Box MicroStation V8 << Return to Index Windows® 2000.V8 Product License File Names 8330 . 1. feet and inches. so there units are known. http://selectservices. Unfortunately the Design Center Units variable (INSUNITS) does not exist in pre-AutoCAD 2000 files and is inconsistently set in many AutoCAD 2000+ files.. Design center units have been selected. MicroStation V8 allows the user to either use the Design Center Units specification or to specify units explicitly.Online License Tool FAQ In MicroStation V8 it is important to correctly specify the units for a file.

11/7/2006 .SELECTservices | 8251 .. The file is of type Architectural or Engineering and the units other than inches have been selected.bentley.DWG DXF Units Alert Box TechNote Page 2 of 3 3. 8251 How useful was this page? less 1 2 3 4 5 more Suggest new content or let us know how we can improve this content (optional): << E-mail this page Submit http://selectservices.. This would only occur if the user explicitly changes the unit setting for Architectural and Engineering files to something other than inches.com/en-US/Support/Support+Tools/TechNotes+and+FAQs/MicroStation+V8/DW.

Windows Me.DGN-DWG Terminology TechNote Page 1 of 2 Login | Site Map | Print | Store Search Select Locale verticals products support services training community Quick Links corporate Support Support Tools KnowledgeBase TechNotes and FAQs Remote Support Live Chat Discussion Groups AutoPLANT Error Reports DGN-DWG TERMINOLOGY TECHNOTE Subject: Product: Operating System: DGN-DWG Terminology MiroStation V8 << Return to Index Windows® 2000. and line style are set for each level (layer). Windows XP Professional. Native file format for each program. Global Freeze/Viewport Freeze (DWG workmode only) Handles Freeze layers Grips http://selectservices. >> more Fit View Zoom extents -"Zoom Extents" area will include layers that have display turned off . In AutoCAD. 11/7/2006 . Coordinate system acronyms.. Vertices on geometry that can be selected and manipulated.SELECTservices | 8324 .com/en-US/Support/Support+Tools/TechNotes+and+FAQs/MicroStation+V8/DGN. Command used to demote element/object types to lower level.V8 Product License File Names 8330 .Bentley Hardware Partners Work Stations 6225 . ACS = Auxiliary Coordinate System. Windows 98 (Second Edition recommended) 8324 Document Number: New TechNotes MDL . N/A DWG workmode and AutoCAD allow only one model. Windows NT® 4 (SP6 recommended). UCS = User Coordinate System.Online License Tool FAQ Note: This information is also available in the MicroStation V8. line weight. cells/blocks can be demoted to geometry. Windows XP Home Edition. N/A Command for zooming in on all elements currently in the drawing.. There is no analogy to a normal cell. MicroStation DGN workmode allows multiple models. Corresponding AutoCAD Term Osnap UCS LTSCALE Rectangle BYLAYER setting Balloon N/A Blocks System variables Model space DWG file Explode Properties Objects MicroStation Term AccuSnap ACS ACTIVE LINESTYLESCALE Block ByLevel setting Callout bubble Cell libraries Cells: shared and normal Configuration variables Design model DGN file Drop Element Element Attributes Elements Notes Drafting tool for automatic snaps.5 help system. In MicroStation. all blocks behave like shared cells. Configuration/system variable used to define the scale of line scale/linetype patterns.The MicroStation Development Language MicroStation V8 Programming Tools Readme 8271 . N/A No analogous AutoCAD term. For example. pay attention to the Mode setting in the Level Display dialog box. Title for current symbology of elements/objects.bentley. N/A Setting that controls whether color.MicroStation "Fit" tool will fit only visible geometry.

there is no analogy to View Attributes. They store standard settings. Inserting an external reference into the current drawing. Line styles Merge into Master Message Center Nested references Parasolid Patterning Pen tables Print References Linetypes Bind XREF Text window Nested references ACIS Hatching Plot styles Plot References: attachments and overlays Template drawing files Region Drawing layout (paper space) Polyline Attributes Viewports (Drafting Settings) Seed files Shape Sheet model Smart Line Tags View View Attributes Working units Drawing units 8324 How useful was this page? less 1 2 3 4 5 more Suggest new content or let us know how we can improve this content (optional): << E-mail this page Submit © 2006 Bentley Systems. AutoCAD CTB and STB files can be imported into MicroStation. Incorporated Privacy | Terms of Use | Webmaster | 1. Polylines can have variable width.bentley. In AutoCAD. Native 3D modeling kernel for each program..800. N/A AutoCAD references are also known as XREFs (for "eXternal REFerences"). MicroStation views are more flexible in terms of display attributes and number. This corresponds to AutoCAD's setting for "Drawing units for DesignCenter blocks". 11/7/2006 . AutoCAD hatching relies on predefined patterns. In AutoCAD. MicroStation lets you control levels of nesting.com/en-US/Support/Support+Tools/TechNotes+and+FAQs/MicroStation+V8/DGN. MicroStation has a setting on the DWG Open dialog box for Design Center Units. N/A Unlimited sheet models (drawing layouts) allowed in both programs. MicroStation also has the Level Display dialog box for quick on/off settings. Place for viewing text messages of program feedback. MicroStation standard line codes are not available in DWG workmode. as opposed to constant line weight.DGN-DWG Terminology TechNote Page 2 of 2 Key-in Levels Command line Layers Place for entering commands/variables manually..SELECTservices | 8324 . attributes must be part of a block. Some settings are found in the taskbar/drafting settings area. AutoCAD does not.BENTLEY http://selectservices. Both programs have a "Manager" style dialog box for controlling level/layer symbology. These files are used as a starting point for newly-created files.

Models allow MicroStation users to create multiple design models and sheet (plot) models for any one DGN drawing.The MicroStation Development Language MicroStation V8 Programming Tools Readme 8271 .SELECTservices | 8328 .Online License Tool FAQ With the introduction of MicroStation V8. Windows NT® 4 (SP6 recommended). Windows XP Professional. Windows XP Home Edition. Models Icon >> more In the Models dialog..Saving a DGN to DWG TechNote Page 1 of 6 Login | Site Map | Print | Store Search Select Locale verticals products support services training community Quick Links corporate Support Support Tools KnowledgeBase TechNotes and FAQs Remote Support Live Chat Discussion Groups AutoPLANT Error Reports SAVING A DGN TO DWG Subject: Product: Operating System: MicroStation V8 << Return to Index Saving DGN to DWG (with AutoCAD paperspace and viewport compatibility) Windows® 2000. the concept of Models was introduced to aide with interoperability and to extend the capabilities of MicroStation into the future. Models setup (design or sheet) is done via the models icon on the Primary toolbar.. 11/7/2006 .com/en-US/Support/Support+Tools/TechNotes+and+FAQs/MicroStation+V8/Savin.V8 Product License File Names 8330 .Bentley Hardware Partners Work Stations 6225 . Windows Me.bentley. Windows 98 (Second Edition recommended) 8328 Document Number: Process: Design Models and Sheet Models New TechNotes MDL . click on the furthest left button: "Create Model" Create Models Button In the Create Model dialog: http://selectservices.

2. 3.SELECTservices | 8328 . 3. "DISPLAY SHEET LAYOUT" is checked Choose a size of layout from the jump box Options: Cell Properties (this allows the drawing to be placed as a cell in the future) Click OK http://selectservices.Saving a DGN to DWG TechNote Page 2 of 6 Create Model Dialog 1.com/en-US/Support/Support+Tools/TechNotes+and+FAQs/MicroStation+V8/Savin. 6. 7. From "TYPE" choose "SHEET" and then 3D Enter name of the reference e. 2.. 5. 4..bentley. General Arrangement for Project X Reference Logical name Uncheck "DISPLAY SHEET LAYOUT" Options: Cell Properties (this allows the drawing to be placed as a cell in the future) Click OK Alternatively 1: 1. 4. Plot 1:100 A description e. 11/7/2006 .g.g.

SELECTservices | 8328 . 2. http://selectservices. click Attach and navigate to your drawings. a user can easily place and orientate references via horizontal or vertical copying. Copy.bentley. 3. Inside your sheet model. Select the scale of the border you are going to attach from the Model jump box and then click OK. Rotate. Scale. Then navigate to C:\Program Files\Bentley\Workspace\examples\borders\ISO\A0.Saving a DGN to DWG TechNote Page 3 of 6 AutoCAD paperspace layout Your new model will automatically be converted to an AutoCAD paperspace layout when you save it to DWG. click on References and then on Attach.. This can be done by highlighting the reference in question and then using the icons for Move. Now we have a design (modelspace) model and a sheet (paperspace) model. Manipulate the drawings so that they are placed correctly inside your border file. 6. 11/7/2006 . To attach a border to this sheet model: 1. 4. and Mirror from the Reference dialog. Attach either single or multiple drawings and click OK. a single drawing can be placed in plan and elevation without the necessity of multiple attachments of the same file. 5.com/en-US/Support/Support+Tools/TechNotes+and+FAQs/MicroStation+V8/Savin.. By highlighting the reference and then selecting the Copy/Fold Reference option in the Reference dialog. Using References again. The reference attaches at the scale specified to the blank sheet model. With 3D drawings.

. Then click on the Size jump box and choose from one of the industry standard layouts listed (custom sizes can also be readily made). ON. With the persistent fence boundary in MicroStation there is no need to place around the area desired to be printed.bentley. The Model Properties dialog will open. 6. MicroStation will only allow one persistent boundary per model. http://selectservices. Select the Sheet Properties section and check the Display Sheet Layout option. Inside your new sheet model. 11/7/2006 .. 3. Select References and attach your border and then your drawing at the scale you require.SELECTservices | 8328 .com/en-US/Support/Support+Tools/TechNotes+and+FAQs/MicroStation+V8/Savin. You will notice that a highlighted boundary is now represented in your sheet model.Saving a DGN to DWG TechNote Page 4 of 6 Attaching border to a sheet model Alternatively 2: 1. 4. Highlight this new model and select Edit Model Properties. click on the Model icon again. 5. 2.

you can save to a different format. 2. 4.com/en-US/Support/Support+Tools/TechNotes+and+FAQs/MicroStation+V8/Savin. http://selectservices. 3..SELECTservices | 8328 .Saving a DGN to DWG TechNote Page 5 of 6 Model Properties dialog Now that you have your design model and your sheet model set up. MicroStation will now save the DGN to DWG format..bentley. 1. 11/7/2006 . Go to File and Save As. Navigate to where you wish the data to be saved and then click Save. Click on the Save As A Type jump box and choose DWG. and then open that new formatted file in your session of MicroStation where you can check and view it.

with full compatibility with AutoCAD. The Export option in MicroStation will allow you to remain in your SGN session.800. 11/7/2006 ..com/en-US/Support/Support+Tools/TechNotes+and+FAQs/MicroStation+V8/Savin. 3.BENTLEY http://selectservices. Incorporated Privacy | Terms of Use | Webmaster | 1.Saving a DGN to DWG TechNote Page 6 of 6 Save As dialog Alternatively: 1. 1 2 = MicroStation V8 2004 Edition = MicroStation V8 2004 Edition How useful was this page? less 1 2 3 4 5 more Suggest new content or let us know how we can improve this content (optional): << E-mail this page Submit © 2006 Bentley Systems.. Choose the DGN. DWG. Click OK. It saves the file to the location given.bentley. 2. Go to File and select Export. and DXF option and then navigate to where you want the file saved.SELECTservices | 8328 .

Such reference attachments display in the correct location as long as the same translation seed file that was in effect at attachment time is used.Bentley Hardware Partners Work Stations 6225 . Windows NT® 4 (SP6 recommended). and should not depend on outside settings or auxiliary files. Windows Me. Coincident attachments are not subject to this problem unless the reference is subsequently clipped. The seed file referred to above is the one that is listed as "DGN Seed File" circled in the "DWG Open Options" dialog box below. Windows 98 (Second Edition recommended) 8335 Document Number: New TechNotes MDL .1. Windows XP Professional. MicroStation Versions 8. in certain circumstances. In this case.SELECTservices | 8335 .sometimes to the extent that the graphics disappear completely as the geometry is moved to a location that is outside of the reference clip boundary.DWG References to DGN Files TechNote Page 1 of 4 Login | Site Map | Print | Store Search Select Locale verticals products support services training community Quick Links corporate Support Support Tools KnowledgeBase TechNotes and FAQs Remote Support Live Chat Discussion Groups AutoPLANT Error Reports DWG REFERENCES TO DGN FILES(LOCATION DEPENDENT ON "DWG OPEN OPTIONS" SEED FILE ) Subject: Product: Operating System: DWG References to DGN Files MicroStation V8 << Return to Index Windows® 2000.Online License Tool FAQ Overview In general.com/en-US/Support/Support+Tools/TechNotes+and+FAQs/MicroStation+V8/8335. reference attachments should depend only on the data within the master file and the reference file. Windows XP Home Edition. Symptoms The problem described above occurs only when DWG files are attached as references to DGN master files using MicroStation V8.bentley.1 produced attachments of DWG files referenced to DGN files that were affected by the resolution of the DGN file used as the seed file for opening DWG files.0 and 8.. but using a translation seed file of a different resolution will cause the references to be dislocated..V8 Product License File Names 8330 . changing the resolution of that seed file (or substituting a file with different resolution for the seed file) could cause the references to move to different locations .The MicroStation Development Language MicroStation V8 Programming Tools Readme 8271 .0 or V8. However. >> more http://selectservices. 11/7/2006 .

SELECTservices | 8335 . 12000 units per foot is equivalent to 1000 per inch).DWG References to DGN Files TechNote Page 2 of 4 The resolution that is important is the value specified in the "Advanced Unit Settings" dialog when the seed file is opened in MicroStation..bentley.e.. http://selectservices.com/en-US/Support/Support+Tools/TechNotes+and+FAQs/MicroStation+V8/8335. 11/7/2006 . Note that only the effective resolution value is important (i.

This means that in order for the utility to fix the reference attachments they must first be displaying in the correct location. and Cancel buttons. Important Note: In order to run this utility it is first necessary to locate and configure MicroStation to use the same seed file (or more precisely the same seed file resolution) that was used when the reference files were originally attached. The number of messages that the message center http://selectservices. In that case it will prompt you before fixing each reference with a dialog box with a query of the form: "Fix origin for Slot 1 attachment file '032a-rax. 4.dwg'?" with Yes. 3. it will make the change.5. No. Warning: Running fixreforigins. 11/7/2006 . These attachments are independent of the seed file resolution and will display in the correct location for any seed file (even with older versions of MicroStation). If you say Yes. It reports the actions it takes to the message center. we have written an MDL application called "fixreforigins".ma) To correct references that were attached using MicroStation V8. the reference file attachment and manipulation tools have been corrected such that the location of any reference created or modified with the 8.ma on attachments which are not displayed in the correct location will permanently fix the attachments at the wrong location and make it impossible to recover the correct attachment position. It fixes only DWG references attached to DGN V8 files.5 In MicroStation 8..bentley.ma in your bentley\program\microstation\mdlapps\ directory. Click here to download.SELECTservices | 8335 . put fixreforigins.5 tools is fixed and will not change if the seed file resolution is altered. run MicroStation. If it can't find the reference.0 and V8. To run the application. you can use the "interactive" mode. It can only fix the origin for references that it can find. If you want feedback while it is running. and type in "mdl load fixreforigins". Correcting Existing Attachments (fixreforigins.1. open the DGN file with DWG attachments and verify that the reference attachments are in their correct locations. it doesn't know how to fix it. 2. The utility scans through your references and fixes the origins of all the DWG references.DWG References to DGN Files TechNote Page 3 of 4 Solution MicroStation Version 8. Then open the keyin dialog.com/en-US/Support/Support+Tools/TechNotes+and+FAQs/MicroStation+V8/8335. Other attachment types do not need to be fixed. Additional Notes: There are two optional command line arguments: mdl load fixreforigins [-y] [-n] [-f] |-?] [logfilename] 'n' (or no argument) means do not query for each reference 'y' means query for each reference '?' or 'h' shows usages message 1. If you start it with "mdl load fixreforigins" it will change all attachments without asking you..

log (or use the 'y' argument if you want it to ask you before it fixes the origins). How useful was this page? less 1 2 3 4 5 more Suggest new content or let us know how we can improve this content (optional): << E-mail this page Submit © 2006 Bentley Systems.SELECTservices | 8335 . saves is limited. In your command file.bentley. Incorporated Privacy | Terms of Use | Webmaster | 1.BENTLEY http://selectservices.DWG References to DGN Files TechNote Page 4 of 4 5. just put something like: mdl load fixreforigins d:\tmp\relative. Before doing a batch process.. You can use it in conjunction with batch process to process many files. you should back up your design files in case you don't like the results. so you can also have it create a log file by giving the second command line argument as a full file specification. 11/7/2006 ..800.com/en-US/Support/Support+Tools/TechNotes+and+FAQs/MicroStation+V8/8335.

com/en-US/Support/Support+Tools/TechNotes+and+FAQs/MicroStation+V8/Open.Bentley Hardware Partners Work Stations 6225 . To make the DWG Options button available.Online License Tool FAQ When opening a DWG file there are a few options that can be selected to control how the file will appear in MicroStation. http://selectservices. Some of the unit options are: Seed File Master Units and Seed File Subunits . There are three main areas: Basic Advanced Line Weights Basic >> more Architectural or Engineering Units . You can access the DWG options by either opening a file from the MicroStation Manager or by doing file>open. you must select a DWG file type or a DXF file type. Windows XP Home Edition.. if a DWG file is drawn using Architectural units then this would need to be set to inches to get the proper scale for the file.V8 Product License File Names 8330 .The units can be set for DWG files with Architectural or Engineering units. Windows NT® 4 (SP6 recommended). Windows Me.SELECTservices | 8336 . Windows XP Professional. 11/7/2006 .The MicroStation Development Language MicroStation V8 Programming Tools Readme 8271 . With the 2004 Edition there are some changes to the DWG Options dialog box. For example.bentley.Opening DWG Files TechNote Page 1 of 3 Login | Site Map | Print | Store Search Select Locale verticals products support services training community Quick Links corporate Support Support Tools KnowledgeBase TechNotes and FAQs Remote Support Live Chat Discussion Groups AutoPLANT Error Reports OPENING DWG FILES IN MICROSTATION V8 2004 EDITION Subject: Product: Operating System: Opening DWG Files MicroStation V8 << Return to Index Windows® 2000. Windows 98 (Second Edition recommended) 8336 Document Number: New TechNotes MDL ..The DGN seed file is specified at the bottom of the General tab dialog.

Specifies the units used in a DWG file. you can set both Units options to Design Center Units. whereas AutoCAD defines them by width in millimeters.When on. MicroStation can then automatically use this value to interpret the DWG units. To browse for this file. This setting is not available in AutoCAD files prior to AutoCAD 2000. Create 2D Models for Paper Space .If this is selected then a 2D model is created to represent model space.. each Xref is assigned a block name. Use this option if the DWG file originated from a DGN file. but not http://selectservices. MicroStation extracts most of the settings directly from the DWG file. Use this setting if the DWG output file will be edited with MicroStation. Scientific.SELECTservices | 8336 . Assign Logical Names to Xref Block Names . MicroStation settings that are not present in the DWG are extracted from the DGN seed file. You can have 3D models in a 2D sheets. turns on Axis Lock if the AutoCAD ORTHOMODE system variable is set to 1 in the DWG file. and you want to preserve the settings and element data between editing sessions DGN Seed File .Sets the path and the filename of the seed DGN file. Preserve MicroStation Settings -If on. and you plan to save the file as a DGN. In AutoCAD. Advanced Use Seed File Global Origin . For DWG files with these units. the actual units are not implied.This is the only place that the color of the background for the Sheet Model and the Design Model can be changed in a DWG file. However. Line Weight Scale (MM/Pixel) -This value controls the relationship between line weights in MicroStation and AutoCAD.Opening DWG Files TechNote Page 2 of 3 Design Center Units . or Fractional units. Create 2D Models for Model Space . click the adjacent magnifying glass icon.com/en-US/Support/Support+Tools/TechNotes+and+FAQs/MicroStation+V8/Open. Decimal.When on. DWG files do not store a background color for either of the models. This name is typically. If this setting is available and accurately set in the DWG file. If 3D geometry is present it is flattened to the X-Y plane. You can set the units to either Master Units or Sub Units of the seed file. If 3D geometry is present it is flattened to the X-Y plane..When on. Set Axis Lock if OrthoMode=l . preserves MicroStation-specific settings in the DWG file. uses the global origin values from the DGN seed file. MicroStation line weights are defined in pixels. Colors . but they are typically one of the metric units. the XRef block names are used by reference logicalnames in MicroStation.If this is selected then 2D sheet models are created to represent paper space sheets.bentley.The units can be set for DWG files with Decimal. Scientific or Fractional Units . 11/7/2006 . When a DWG file is open.

or Scientific units.800.com/en-US/Support/Support+Tools/TechNotes+and+FAQs/MicroStation+V8/Open. but the file being opened has Design Center Units set to Unspecified.bentley.Lists the line weights used in DGN files. although meters are typically assumed. The same line weight mapping is used for both opening and saving to DWG files.. 8336 Opening DWG Files How useful was this page? less 1 2 3 4 5 more Suggest new content or let us know how we can improve this content (optional): << E-mail this page Submit © 2006 Bentley Systems. These unit settings do not imply any particular units. DGN Weight . Fractional.BENTLEY http://selectservices.If on. DWG Weight . Decimal. 11/7/2006 .Sets the DWG lineweight value that maps to a DGN line weight.Opening DWG Files TechNote Page 3 of 3 necessarily. Incorporated Privacy | Terms of Use | Webmaster | 1. LineWeights Used to map DGN line weights to DWG lineweights. or Engineering Units . displayed if the file being opened has Engineering or Architectural units. the units alert box is. Click on the DWG Weight column header to toggle between units of millimeters and inches. Display Units Alert Unspecified Design Center Units . Mismatched Engineering or Architectural Units . the units alert box is displayed--if the file being opened has Decimal.If on. the units alert box is displayed--if Design Center Units are selected in the Basic DWG Open Options. the name of the Xref file. any other setting is likely to be an error. Fractional. Since these file types strongly imply that inches are used..SELECTservices | 8336 . but the unit setting is not set to Inches.If on.

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