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THE CIRCUIT COURT OF THE ELEVENTH IN AND FOR MIAMI-DADE

JUDICIAL CIRCUIT

COUNTY FLORIDA

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CIRCUIT

COURT DIVISION

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INVESTIGATION

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64-11-20

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DATE: Wednesday,

January

4th, 2012 - 1:28pm

TIMES: 11:54am

SWORN STATEMENT OF RAQUEL A. REGALADO

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APPEARANCES:

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ON BEHALF OF THE STATE: BY: -Howard Jordan, Assistant State Attorney, -Jose Arrojo, Assistant State Attorney Katherine Fernandez Rundle, State Attorney
1350 N.W. 12th Avenue

Miami, Florida 33136 (305) 547-0100

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ALSO PRESENT: -Joseph Centorino, Executive Director of the MiamiDade Commission on Ethics and Public Trust. -Special Agent William Saladrigas, FL. Department -Christina Seymour, C.P.A., M.B.A, Auditor, Miami-

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ALSO PRESENT ON BEHALF OF THE WITNESS: -Jose M. Quinon, P.A.

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CONTENTS PAGE
Direct Examination

by Mr. Rosen

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EXHIBITS

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DESCRIPTION
-State of FL. Appointment of Campaign Designation Treasurer of Campaign and Candidates

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-Three checks -Check Cashing -Instant $300.00 -Chase Cashier's -Division Treasurers -Division Treasurers Check $250.00 Campaign USA $500.00 Kendall

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Cash Advance

of Elections,

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Report Summary of Elections, Campaign 58 18

Report Summary

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Whereupon,
Raquel A. Regalado,

PROCEEDINGS
(Beginning of statement 11:54am)

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practice, practice U-R-O-R-A

Been first duly sworn, was called as a witness and testified as follows:

and was examined

Mr. Rosen: Could you please

tell us your full name and

spell it for us? And tell us what you do professionally. Witness: Raquel Aurora Regalado, R-E-G-A-L-A-D-O. R-A-Q-U-E-L Aurora A-

and Regalado

Mr. Rosen: What do you do professionally? Witness: What I do professionally? I am an attorney, I

I'm of council with a law firm of Feldman Gale, I in patent litigation mainly and I do some trademark I County

work, but wait there's more I'm a school board member. represent district 6 so I technically

work for Miami-Dade

public schools urn on a part time basis,

I also have a radio show

that I do for 6,7,8am La Poderosa and I have a TV show that I do for Tele-Miami, which is a weekly TV-show. from law school?

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Mr. Rosen: Where did you graduate Witness: St. Thomas

Mr. Rosen: Okay, what year was that? Witness: 2001 as an

Mr. Rosen: And how long have you been practicing

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1 \vitness: Since 2000 ... Ll, I st.arted in 1998 um as a we summer, yea 1998 as a summer associate and I stayed with Holland with Holland
& Knight,

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& Knight until 2004, my daughter
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left H&K my now ex-husband else who's

started a firm so ! joined urn ! joined with somebody know at Greenberg Traurig and we worked.~e shared

space with

him, he had his firm we had our P.A. and we did that for a while

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Malloy, where I worked for several years and I recently for about 10 years. in joined

Feldman Gale so I've been practicing

Mr. Rosen: Okay and what did you major undergraduate? Witness: decided Uh undergraduate I was pre-med

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and then I

at the last minute

that I wanted studies.

to go to law school so

I got a degree in liberal Mr. Rosen: maybe calculus? Witness:

So pre-med

you probably

would have taken

I survived calculus;

I survived

physics with

calculus and chemistry. Mr. Rosen: Other than that do you have any appreciable education financial Witness: matters? None at all. for his first

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Mr. Rosen: When your dad was running

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involved

in his campaign? Witness; Yes I was were you involved? from college

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Mr. Rosen: What capacities

Witness; Urn at the time I had graduated

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and I had decided that I was gonna go to law school and he decided to run urn and I did all the media for his campaign. I

was the voice of the commercial; the mailers,

I was urn the person that wrote urn wrote the speeches and

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I approved the mailers

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it was different it was before the creation of districts urn so I

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to that when I was in college worked

for, well first in high school

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for Senator Bob Graham and I had worked doing media

for

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him, I shadowed him when he did his works program under Lula Rodriguez

and I worked in

for several years and then I uh I worked

media and radio and newspaper

for the first two years of college

and then I worked for Bruce Kaplan running his campaigns. Mr. Rosen: When you ran Commissioner campaigns ... Witness: Media, just the media stuff ... Mr. Rosen: Just the media stuff? Witness: Just the media stuff ... Mr. Rosen: Okay you didn't do any financial him anything like that?
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Kaplan's

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things for

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thing, the mail outs; what were the scripts campaigns, interesting

for the radio

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if he was going to do TV urn you know Bruce was an guy so it was difficult sort of to keep him on

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point. So yea you just try to keep it, to keep it simple. Mr. Rosen: Okay urn you're here say voluntarily, correct? Witness: Yes I'm going to ask questions and if

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Mr. Rosen: Alright you don't understand understand

the questions

please

tell me you don't them for you.

and I'll be more than happy to rephrase Witness: That's Okay. DIRECT EXAMINATION fine.

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Mr. Rosen:

Q. You were named as your father's

campaign

treasurer

in

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his most recent run for- City of Miami Mayor A. Right Q. Did you have some conversation to him naming you as his campaign A. Urn well my mother

in 2009?

with him about that prior

treasurer? that was always and that's with. My dad away, so urn

had always done that,

her aspect of it, she did all the campaign something decided that he had always

reports

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felt very comfortable

to run literally

days after my mother a few things there.

passed

again I have to explain all the finances

Urn my mom handled so my ... when

uh when it came to their
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lives,

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checkbooks

were and uh we had talked a little bit about

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sort of while she was sick uh, my mother got food pOisoning and then everything with food poisoning just sort of snowballed urn it started

then it got really bad then they decided

do some dialysis at that point they told us urn she would be fine that she could take the dialysis that she would be out in a few

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urn and then a heart attack and then they needed dialysis to stop the and before

and they needed to do an open heart surgery

you know it you're at day 25 and you were sitting

at a quadruple the first 24

bypass and they said "well if you know she survives

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hours you know she'll be fine, you know it's not really high risk, everything should be okay" at hour 23 and a quarter to her a she

had a stroke and she died. So we had~I had talked little bit about certain

things, but we'd never really had any you know what sort of what unprepared to

you know in-depth conversations happened

uh she wasn't there and he was completely

sort deal with the everyday urn I was really concerned was very difficult

of it. So when my mother

passed away it

for my father he was very depressed

for him, I had to take care of all the he was just a mess as is to be for his

aspects of the burial everything expected.

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So uh I took over at that point his finances

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she would have wanted him to run for Mayor and that this was good idea, I couldn't think of anything that was a worst idea at that was

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the time uh but given, given how you know everything going on I decided that if this was something

that would take just

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his mind off what had just happened

then I should probably

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from that pOint forward uh just because there really wasn't much

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he asked me to be the treasurer, going back to answer your

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your mom did, and I have no one else to do it and I want you to do it you know urn so inevitably a treasurer treasurers before urn I said yes but I'd never been

I had never even looked at a campaigns

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report urn and I had no idea sort of what went into

that nor at that point did we have any idea that this would be like a million dollar campaign you know, because at that point

nobody had said that they were really running

and that was

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another issue that I had with it is that we were saying like over a year, a year and a half before the fact you know that we were running so it just seemed it like it was going to be such protracted thing, so we figured we'll figure it out and I never

thought that it was gonna get as enormous my mind I thought

as it did, in fact in that we

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it was gonna similar to the campaigns

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point you know my father had run campaigns
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you know 210,000

dollars

spread

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over a year. So that was sort of my expectation it.
Q. So that was quite

agreed

to

a learning

curve that you had when you

came into this thing? A. Yes to say the least. Q. Who were your ~GO TOn people questions how to do something? that you went when you had

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A. Well my "GO TO" person was dead so that was kind of difficult, that would have been my "GO TO" person have a lot of experience urn and my with it either to do the of it

father urn really didn't urn so you know Armando initial accounting

was the person that he selected on certain

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and I just focused

aspects

you know, get the checks, photocopied the checks

make sure you photocopy,

make sure he to Armando

that he gave the photocopies

that the checks were deposited logistics

in time sort of like the urn what Armando had said is

of that. The reporting program

that there was a computer inputted everything

and it was and that sort of had done all

in there,

in the past my mother

these reports by hand so I had seen some of you know her doing that craziness a PDF version
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uh but you know now the idea that there was like that would sort of move things along a little bit

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uh then what we were accustomed to getting involved

too. campaign 106 of the of

Q. Now prior

in the Mayoral with chapter

your dad, did you have any familiarity Florida statutes? A. No Q. At all? A. At all
Q. Have you looked at it prior

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to getting

involved

in this

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with the media buys like I knew about media buys and how to the

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media buys worked and I knew there had been some changes

media buy law, but I don't buy media so I just knew that the agency that bought media sort of had to comply with different things if there was a consulting handled because fee uh but normally since I fee

the content of the media there wasn't a consulting

I was already doing that and I don't know if you know that works but the idea is like you know a candidate agency and they're sort of like "I

how exactly

walks in to an advertising

want to run for office, what do we do now?" and then the AD agency puts together fee for the package, the package so they charge you a consulting now packaged you and

you know they've

they've given you a message uh and then there's mailers

you know the

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and the radio and the actually media buys and all those

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so I never had to worry about the consulting and we had started

cause I had done that myself first campaign.

that since his

So when I worked for doing his media it was just

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a matter of this is what I want who are we going to send it too, are we gonna send it to the 5's, are we gonna send it to the are we gonna send it to the head of household, are we gonna what time,

74's,

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send it to individuals, what buy ...

you know what radio stations,

Q. Let me interrupt,

what you mean by the 5's and the 4's? that

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A. Urn 5's are super voters you know those are people have not missed an election elections elections candidate.

in the past 4 years that includes elections or referendum have a large a candidate

that were just referendum and judge elections

that didn't actually

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4's are people who go out when there's

but they won't go out when there's like a judge or you know or a referendum issue, you know you have 3's are people that go out

for presidential

you know and 2's are people who rarely make it a breakdown of sort of

out and your 1 voted 5 years ago. There's how people vote and when they vote.

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Mr. Rosen: Now I see on the campaign, this, this is exhibit
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let me show you this and

for the purpose of this statement, of Campaign Treasurer

is the State of Florida Appointment Desian<'ltionof the Campaian

Depository

for Candidates.

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Q. Exhibit
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for the purposes

of the statement

and i~ has

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your signature

I guess at the very bottom?

A. Yup that's me. Q. That is your signature? A. Right, except at that point I was still Raquel Regalado-

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now. So uh at that point in April of 2008 urn I was I wasn't divorced yet so that's why the signature

still married is different

and the names different. bank is a campaign where I guess he

Q. Now I see here that Wachovia

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and your dad explained accounts, I don't

to us that's

had his personal

if you do there also or not? one there, I have my down

A. Right, urn I have my professional personal

one at the credit union so yea. But it's literally from my house. was chosen because

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the street

Q. I guess that's why that Wachovia was convenient to you all?

it

A. Right it's the closest blocks

bank to both of us, I live a few bank to two of us.

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from him and that's the closest

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Q. Urn as we sit here today are you aware of urn for example Florida statute 106.09 section 1 subsection
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A. I've read them all yes ...
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limits contributions check

from each contributor to only 50 dollars?

in the

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form of cash and cashier's

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Q. Okay, at what point did you first read that? A. Urn honestly I can't tell you at what point you're I read that, to accept

I mean I think you know generally

not supposed

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cash and yea I mean I don't, I Was not in charge the checks or soliciting the checks that's

of collecting

not what I did urn I

went with him to a few urn events but for the most part that's not you know that's not something in his election that I did, I mean most people is that most people

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what ended up happening

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urn and you know either he deposited the checks but you know we didn't

the checks or I cash I mean

deposit

if that's the and I think he knows enough he's not supposed
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to know that you know

to take cash ...

It's okay to take cash under $50 ...as long as its $ 50 or

less ... A. Right if it's under $50 ...right ... right ...

Q. Because there are approximately
we viewed initially as cashier's checks~

three checks

here that

(EXHIBIT 2 A-C ENTERED INTO RECORD 12:10pm)
A. Right two are check cashing ... Q. Two are I understand they are ... your father explained to us what

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Q. Check cashing
contributors ...
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stores who might have been actually

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Right check from Chase

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Q. But the third one here is a cashier's Bank and remitter

was a David Stein for $250, do you recall ever

seeing this check or ... ? A. No not before that exhibit telling

Q. Okay, at what point in time you just got through

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about that; was that just since

as started? I mean I think

A. What I just said is that I don't recall, generally you know that you're not supposed candidates

to take cash over right? I

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$50, I mean generally

don't like cash period

mean even though statutes

says like up to $50 dollars

normally

when people give you cash you say "no thank you" urn in the case of bundling assumed people just hand you a series of checks uh what I checks was

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happened

in this case was that the cashier's

stuck with the bunch of other checks and it just got you know moved like everything else urn but I really couldn't I think that it's important official myself tell you a to note

date I mean and honestly

that you know 1'm an elected had my own campaign

so then I had, I

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after this campaign

you know what ! mean

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that sort of changes your perspective on you know bundling and

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Q. Let's put that on the timeline A. Sure
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if we can?

You're currently

a school board member ...

A. School board member ... Q. When did you first file to run for that position? A. In January of urn let me see I was elected I was elected in Aug of 2010 because in Aug of 2010

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I didn't have to go to a in

run off urn so in I think we had the first conversation January, I think we may have filed February

yea I want to say

like February of that year cause it was short ... Q. Of 2010? A. Of 2010, right it was a short time because open seat.
Q. And that was after the Mayoral

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it was an

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Campaign

your dad was

elected

in? in November of 2009 urn so he

A. Right my father was elected yea he was elected.
Q. Okay so he was already

in office and it was after that

point in time that you decided to run? A. Right

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familiar with chapter were running?
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your dad's campaign

while you

Yea Mr. Rosen: I don't want to put words in your mouth I

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A. No yea ... because yea

at that point you know yea at that and my dad's

point I was the you know I was the candidate campaign was an enormous

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campaign you know so there really and that I should this, so my

let me back up a little cause there's a few things probably explain. Okay so timing wise as I explain

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mother urn my mother

gets sick in January of 2008 urn she's sick 3rd 2008, urn at that I guess go back had

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for 29 days and she passes away February time I was still married like 6 months before,

a few months before

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6 months before my now ex-husband

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Rothstein, Rosenfeldt & Adler. I did not agree with that choice but we had a

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for several reason we won't get into the specifics lot of issues urn starting Rothstein, Rosenfeldt

with that choice to leave to without you know I

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& Adler urn personally

let's just say that the lifestyle

there was a little different at Holland
& Knight

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mean listen I'm not you know I practice it wasn't

so know and

like you know I wasn't like some kid that didn't

what was going on but uh it was a very a different
it had a series

lifestyle

of components

that effected

his life personally

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both practice property entire partner

IP, Rothstein

department

so what the idea was he transferred

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firm over there and sort of became a partner, and everybody worked for him. The only person

he became that did

not go with that was myself urn and there was an issue with that when I said that I wouldn't go because Rothstein for you know politicians and people associated had an affinity

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with politicians was uh the I

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would be part of this because my dad was at the time a Commissioner and they were already talking you know that he may not I didn't

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or may not run for Mayor. So uh I said absolutely want to go to Ft. Lauderdale

and I didn't want to join the firm

so I stayed behind and started doing contract work, okay. At the time I had two children, I still have children was relatively but you know I I had decided

had Isabella and Sebastian

young,

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at about 18 months which was a little bit at that point Isabella was 3 so I had already testing absolutely absolutely convinced convinced Isabella for autism I was was

that my daughter

autistic my ex-husband early

that I was crazy. We went through

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steps, we went through speech therapy, we got a gazillion different school, diagnosis on a million other things I put her in

I put the other one in school, the other one had a there was all these

speech delay because his sister was autistic

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my

mother got sick ... when my mother got sick, I wa s as far as I'm concerned came

there every day uh I uh everything

to complete halt and when she passed away I sort of had to deal with you know everything that she left behind because she really

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was sort of the center of the everything that point unbeknownst

in our family. So at was having an

to me uh my ex-husband

affair, we won't get in the specifics that when my mother in Colorado because

of that but let's just say he was skiing

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was having open heart surgery

he really needed to get away. So I bury my

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mother he doesn't make it back in time that's always telling right? and at that point urn I didn't know about the affair but uh but I wasn't in

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I did know that I had to make certain choices a position

to do it. I wanted to at least get my father uh you house was

know uh squared away before we did that. My mother's at that point a complete where everything absolutely mausoleum,

uh it's one of those houses and she picked out

is like flowery and pastely

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everything

in it and now there were two men living in

the gayest house ever so I figured that the only; one of the things I had to do was sort of deconstruct didn't walk in constantly so urn that's something her life right so you

expect her to walk down the hall, urn

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that I did and my father was not happy gave away all her stuff you know into a man cave and moved on

with so I got rid of everything

tried to turn as much as possible

from that point. That's when my father tells me that you know

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uh my brother's

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urn she gave birth to my nephew baby Tommy and asked him couldn't find

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and for the first time ever I called my ex-husband to be somewhere and specifically at the hospital

him did some research that my nephew

found out about the affair

so the night

is born I packed up his stuff and told him to hit that was

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the road uh then the next day r filed for divorce

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my dad had already started urn sort of like his urn his campaign I had to get a job

stuff urn and then we went through the divorce

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a series of other things let's just say we have urn uh how do I put it, urn to say he has issues paying his child support haven't done anything and I

about right we'll just leave it that to Urn then the Rothstein sort the timing thing uh blew of all that at that point

issues being child support.

up you know and I was concerned stuff right, urn so I meant I started working at Malloy longer my daughter helped

I'm divorced
& Malloy

in August

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I had to leave the kids for school that I had

at the time was at charter

fund, I had finally denying

since I didn't have to worry about my the that he

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ex-husband

the rEP, I was able to get an IEP through autism,

school system and the finding was surprise ... surprise

was in August school had just started when they gave Isabella diagnosis of autism they told me that she couldn't stay at the

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her grandmother was and now we had to change schools. schools in the district trying I visited

over 37 different school doesn't I applied

to find a she school

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for McKay Isabella is high functioning I couldn't afford the private

apply for McKay,

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believe

she's autistic

urn so uh I had to put her in Citrus which like having

was horrible

and uh she used to run away nothing

your kid run away from schooL.
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What is Citrus,

I don't know about that ... ? it's a neighborhood recommendation school. So I had

A. Citrus Elementary,

to wait out uh the districts before

pass the 6 months So

I could put her in a school I thought was better.

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we're going through all that fun stuff and urn then you know and then we were we were doing the campaign. So during that time

also my mother had this radio show and my father didn't want to just end the radio show so he had started doing the radio show from 3-4 uh but then in the middle of it there was, there were days that he couldn't do it so then I would cover it you know do it anymore because he was a

and then they said they couldn't candidate so because

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he was a candidate

he had to leave the

radio shows so then I ended up doing the radio shows, so now I had daily radio show from 3-4 so I had to leave my law office and go do the radio show and then qo pick my kids up. So that's
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of the panorama of what you know our lives were at that point, which I'm the first to admit was really chaotic urn and explains, I understand got to tell

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and listen look I read the report and I understand, looking at it what people can think but I honestly

you that I was doing the best that I could just to stay above water. Q. Who was helping you all to win this? A. There was two people, at the initial it was Armando Rodriguez concerned who was doing like the inputting urn I was more

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with sort of the you know the checks coming out of the inputting was it's pretty simple

because my understanding

you know you get a check you make a photocopy

and give it to the

dude that sits on the computer he puts in the report right, this is not you know rocket science urn but I was concerned checks coming out, my dad had some issues with Armando we weren't started really sure if he was doing things properly with the sort of we

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getting a little concerned accountant

so we asked urn my uncle who

is a retired retired

he had retired at that point he just

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sort of come' on board uh and he's Jose Oscar Gonzalez, to my father how's he's related sister who died of lupus

how's he's related he's related to me, is like

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that my mother had a younger

15 years ago and that is

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and then urn making sure that the expenditures

correct. And there's a series of concerns expenditures,

when you get into the how you're paying

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urn you know who you're paying,

them, for what you're paying them urn against my advice my father opened a campaign headquarters, I hate campaign headquarters headquarters you

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want to get yourself

a headache open a campaign

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jobs to you know to bother you about all sorts of nonsense, and that's exactly, just craziness headquarters that's exactly what happened. urn

So that was

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in itself once he decided

to open the campaign who authentically interesting

and there were a lot of people

wanted to help uh but we had and that's another

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aspect of this you know, we didn't think that he was gonna have any true like competition I mean it, and when you look at the

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end result of the voting you would say yea he didn't have any true competition, candidate but at the same time urn uh the urn the other too he had Manny raising money uh they

raised almost a million dollars I mean they were actively

Diaz's support

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just didn't have any sort of support but they had nothing better to do with their time then sort of harass us. So there was that, so you consistently had to be worried about stuff like the

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signs, like are people putting signs in the right way because

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Herald story that talks about the Mayor is violating you know, who did you give the T-shirt have a log about the T-shirts the office and gets a T-shirt absentee because to, because if somebody the code

you have to takes/comes to

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and they go and ask for an now I'm worked for so

ballot and they vote for the person, you know for people so everybody thinking

responsible my campaign,

that person

has T-shirt has to be registered

you know get their license make sure that it's the right person,

9 lock the t-shirts up, you know just stuff that unless you were
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stuck in the day to day of it you would never think that something so simple uh could get so out of control and there was just, and people uh but it was

a huge campaign something

were and this was he had always, it was I

that we had never really seen because was pretty contested

mean his first campaign against Burt Hernandez

uh because

but after that you know he did what. You so you know just

know we had never seen people so polarized

crazy about every single aspect of what was going on that we did during that Mayoral campaign uh and a lot of people felt bad for

us you know they felt bad that he didn't have my morn around they wanted to help, so you're constantly trying not hurt anybody's that you

feelings but at the same time trying to run a campaign

know it was like herding cats uh pretty much is what it felt like on daily basis.
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Q. Was there ever a time that you had a question of the numbers on there or anything like?

about any

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A. I mean you look at the thing you flip through what are you going to do, I'm assuming they inputted it correctly

it, I mean

that the, you know that you know, uh is when for the

I mean there was nothing

I think the first issue that my dad had with Armando they turned in the report and it was like the $33,000

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lease premise

instead of like the $3,000 uh you know at that

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point you know we sat down and we're like okay well we need to bring in somebody know ... Q. And what was that all about, that was just a typo? about it else just to make sure that this guy, you

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A. Yea it was a typo, and he was really apologetic you know and it is, it is stressful

in the sense of that you deadline and then the

know you have make it there by a certain

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clerk and you don't want to be late uh so you know there is that whole rush to get the thing together decided
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but you know that's when we

to brinq in Jose Oscar and make sure there were at least

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Q. Okay, when

you would be shown the campaign would any of the checks,

finance of

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report for signature,

photocopies

the checks rather be handed with the report? A. No it was just the report
Q. Just the report?

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it?

A. Yea, just the report Q. Okay, so you never really saw back up documentation for

A. Uh well I mean I deposited and you can see that,

some of the checks

you know

I mean I deposited

a lot of the checks urn by and sort of I

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14 check up on them honestly was concerned

I focused more on the expenditures. they ran out of

there was a lot of times where

checks and then they started with the urn you know the checks where you write in the number uh which problem making paying urn because they're I knew was going to be a to track and, and

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very difficult

sure they got people's

names right and who they were sure that they

and for what they were paying and making on I mean campaign work what's

were putting making

that you know, and

sure that there was sort of a back up of what these I was for all the not that

people were doing so a lot of the stuff the receipts always on them for make sure you have the receipts purchases
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make sure the purchases th~m th~t
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that you're checks

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out,

if

bounced

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1 explaining what you have to do when they bounce and then are you

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temporary checks that the amounts are
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big the bank will hold all

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it and the bank will call you and you have to go through that, so I walked through, I walked

through all that nonsense to ensure you

with them, but the actual reports

I just wanted

know my question was did you get everything did you get it on a timely fashion

on there you know

you know are you gonna have

9 to make amendments and a lot of the times we knew well this is,
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at all the backup

Q. How are the all the campaign

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workers? A. The poll workers were all paid with checks and the poll workers you know election urn you know

day is a whole other sort

of animal and how that functions the exact number of precincts

you know my dad can tell you

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the City of Miami has all I know

is that it's too many to remember . Mr. Rosen: 90 something . you have

A. Yea it's absurd uh and this is how it works, people that volunteer to work on election

day you have people we

that you sign up to work on election
actually

day. A few days before, early voting so it

had neonle at the polls starting

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people at all the different early voting sites we had

to have all the their information

their ID make sure that they

3 were legal that they hadn't given you any false documentation,
4 the last thing you want is to deal with that you know uh craziness. Polls open at 7, at 7:15 you have to pass by and make that said that they were gonna be there are

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sure that the people

there that they didn't go with their buddy to the other side, that they haven't gone to Versailles to get some breakfast uh

9 you know and the early voting you paid them at the end of early
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voting for the most part unless they were only working certain

11 days but for election day you have to pay them on election day 12 13
or right after. Urn so you have to ensure that they that they're to be at 12:00 to need

all there at 7 that they're were there supposed you check in on everybody

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again you move them according

so for example if you have a precinct

that's been very slow you

know that it's gonna continue to be very slow, you're going to take two or three poll workers from there and you're put them somewhere else. If you have a precinct has been arranged going to the

for example the poll

way that the parking

or something

worker can't even see the person that's gonna vote, uh like that's what happens like at Flagler the librar~_the library of

Flagler right, it's like a waste of time they're

like standing

in the street with a stick so you know what you pull three from

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1 gotta make sure that if you have the people precinct in Morningside that speak English speak Spanish, that you have ir. the but the ones that you no one's offending urn

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have in precinct anyone,

in Flagler

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that they're

not fighting

with the other poll workers smoking

that they're fun logistics.

not sitting

in the corner

all that kind of

And then around

3 or 4 you have to go in and left right,

start checking

up on them to make sure they haven't

8 because then you get a rush again from 4-7 so you got to sort of 9 check on all of them and then at 7:000'clock 10 11 12 13 14 15 16
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checkbooks literally everybody gets a checkbook you know you have runs

and everybody

you break up the city and everybody

runs you have all already

those checks checked a snack,

ready for those poll works that you've that you had bring

off forgot to mention it's always

them lunch and

fun that's how you check up on them at 12 up on them giving them lunch

you don't say you're just checking and a snac~_

Mr. Rosen: You're bringing A. Lunch and a snack ... because Yea

lunch ... lunch Oh if you bring

and a snack ... them lunch at making until 7 sure

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12 and then you bring them snack at 3:30 when you're that their still, they're right, going to keep it together gets some cookies

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so at 3:30 everybody

and water

and a So at 7

big "YOU CAN DO THIS TILL 7 IT's ALL GONNA TO BE GOOD". there's thAt
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like the mad dash uh for the checkbooks cAtch eve rybodv
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and you hope
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you don't wan
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is as

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sweaty poll worker standing where's my check!?U

outside

saying

"where's

my check,

so you try to explain

to them that you know

you call, cause you have a cell phone so you try to call different people people and if you didn't make it to all of them if you tell them okay next day come to the and we'll write the check and that's what you

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just dipped headquarter

campaign happened.

The next day you go the people that were missing

know you have to check your list make sure you didn't write anybody always two checks that you got everybody's name right, there's

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like 20 people that come back with "you spelled my name

11 wrong" and "I can't cash this check or I went to cash this check 12 13
14 and I had a problem" of after the election all cash their checks. Q. Generally how much are you paying the poll workers? so you're dealing with that a few days sort uh and then you just you hope that they

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A. I think it's like a $100, $150, 1 think it's a $100 cause I think we did a $100 for everybody for the day.

Q. And did they all cash their checks? A. No, no ... ... ... ... no no no they didn't all cash their checks ...
Q. Approximately

how many did not cash their checks?

A. The last time 1 looked at it urn 1 wanna say over like 20, 30 1 mean it was a lot of people checks. 0. And at what no i nr rl i d you become aware of the fact these that didn't cash their

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1 A. Urn well during this investigation I went over statement so the best with

2 by statement check by check every single expenditure
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I could tell you, I could tell you everything the expenditure on the expenditure because

that happened

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side, the contribution you're looking

side

has been a lot difficult

for what you

don't have urn in the sense of you know; the first thing I checked bounced with the contributions was if there were any you know things have not been

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checks sort of you know somehow

9 backed out right, and there were one or two things that hadn't
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so then the issue with that has been finding checks but weren't put in the campaign report and

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that were deposited

the only way to do that is to go check by check and put them in with the campaign report but the problem is that the way that

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they were deposited campaign

is not the way they were put in on the names and sort of matching them up. We found some you

report so you go memorizing

them up and matching

them up and matching

of them I think, I think it's like 7, I found one bundle know, I found some names that didn't sound familiar

when I was get put

going through the checks and that was a bundle put in, so I know I have that bundle in to the contributions.

that didn't

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and I know that wasn't to sort of

But it's very difficult

figure out what wasn't put in because

there's no searchable

way

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to do it. I tried to search urn the PDF to see if that would be a

32 1 as going through the actual the physical checks. But with the 2 3
4 5 campaign contributions expenditures it's different because I mean with the

it's different

because you have the photo copy you

know and I have the check books and it's a lot easier, you know what you're looking for, it's not looking for something have no idea what it is yet. Q. Okay so going now let's talk about some of the expenditures okay? At what point do you put an item on the report is it at the point that when that you

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you're filling out the report in other words if you issued a

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not get cashed, you still put that in your expense expenditure report? report was report,

A. Well the way it was done is the expenditure

based on the check book. I mean in the same fashion that the contribution report is based on the photocopies of the checks

the expenditure

report is based on the check book so you can't

urn wait for the check to cash to put it on the expenditure report because then you're lying about when you paid it right, so you have to just when you write the check you put it as an expenditure and yet you hope that they cash it you know within a

reasonable time and that's why you'll see a lot of times like the amendments the back outs, just months and months
I

think

there's a few back outs I mean early, early on in the report uh

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1 people just didr.'t cash them and those just got completely

2 backed out, but you see them backed out three, four, five months
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because at that point the check, people didn't cash checks,

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people didn't cash checks you call them you call them, you call them and hopefully you finally got somebody on the other end

that told you "Yea, I tore up the check" right.

Q. Other than poll workers was there anybody else who

8 checks were issued to that, that said look we don't want to take 9 any money for this we're volunteering
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or whatever?

A. Uh other than, I think I mean I think so, again the poll workers are easy because it's $100, $100 checks there are few

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that, they're paid different amounts, those are like the $350,

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$150 you know there's a few of those checks so most people cashed some but not all of their checks right, so you don't know

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I mean is it that one check got away and you know they forgot about it, is it that you wrote them too many checks you know and then someone just figured it out and ripped it up and left it you know because the checks had like a carbon copy, I guess you still call it carbon copy even though there's nothing carbon or so

copy about it... uh yea you still have the copy on bottom but yea there's a few on there because

it wasn't just poll workers, okay, so these people I don't do

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there were people that were canvassing that were canvassing

they were knocking on doors,

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some people like i~ I don't like people

I try not to get people to do it but some people and canvassing volunteered was importan~

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in certain areas and some people

to canvas, what are you going tell them? You want to

6 canvas, canvas here's a sign knock yourself out, people were out
7 putting campaign up signs, what happened is people would call the

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office and request a sign. I mean if you look at the I mean we literally, I think we could have covered is you know somebody on says

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the city in signs because what happened

17th and 14th on the corner gets a sign and then the neighbor well I support Regalado

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too so I want a sign, so then he wants a

sign; so you go out there and give him sign and the one across the street say but I want a sign too and then before you know it

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everyone on the entire block has the exact same sign, I don't understand the logic behind it but people love their signs, I still have

mean if you still drive by Shenandoah his sign proudly displayed

today people

you know and uh then if you didn't

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get them a sign they would make a sign you know so you get in to all that kind of stuff. So there was people uh people delivering delivering the signs phone ballots

bumper stickers uh people making to the request for absentee

calls urn people responding

uh people that were driving people to early voting that were answering questions about early voting

uh people

so I mean the

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1 people that were sort of working S.A. Saladrigas: regarding treasurer something on the campaign. I have a question urn

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Ms. Regalado

you said earlier

in your statement

urn as the of

are you aware that $305,592

or 36% of the $848,000

5 your father's campaign funds were spent paying Creative Ideas
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7 Advertising? Witness: Yes Okay, earlier you said since you do fees~

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S.A. Saladrigas:

9 the packaging you didn't pay any consulting
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S.A. Saladrigas: consulting

Is it your testimony

that no

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fees were paid to Creative Witness! No...

Ideas Advertising?

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S.A. Saladrigas: Witness: None

Out of that $305,000?

S.A. Saladrigas: Witness: None

None?

S.A. Saladrigas: owns Creative

Okay, and do you have any idea who

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Ideas Advertising? Yea Creative Ideas is owned by Maritza

Witness: Gutierrez

and what Maritza did was uh the layout for the mailers on sort the script for the ads I can't do

urn you know we together we worked

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and she did, she did do the direct media buys because the media buys you need to be a PR company

to do the media buy

36 1 buy for those expenditures, 2 3 4
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like "Oh my God that's crazyU but we did TV uh and teleexpensive. Just so you get an idea the

vision is obscenely

corrunercialthat we did took us t wo days to film, two days of straight filming and it's just that there's so it's so extensive that. But the

to sort of just get the damn thing urn so there's media buys the way that Maritza she waived urn she waived

did it for and a lot of times take on it you

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sort of the company's

9 know, so there are some where you know she received a 10%
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because she was the one that placed the media buy but for the most part she just waived it and put it back into our media budget because we had a media budget and I couldn't of what you know we wanted to spend. (S.A. Saladrigas S.A. Saladrigas: referring question to Auditor Seymour) it and go outside

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Okay, I may be just misreading

I'm going to refer to you on this Tina but you're

report says in

that COE auditor reviewed $305,592 or 36% of $848,000 payments issued by 2009 Regalado services provided Auditor Seymour: S .A. Saladrigas: campaign

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for media buys and Ideas Advertising.

consulting

by Creative

Correct Is that just a typo or ... my box

Auditor Seymour: No, no I should have brought of invoices you did have them pretty neatly organized spend an extensive amount of time aaina throuah

urn I did Idea~

Creative

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1 consulting fees $5,000 and there was no back up urn but many or *in audible* I'm nct a

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times I did see things like Ponderosa media person ... are ... you Witness: Auditor dates_~nd Right~right.

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Seymour: That they have the time slots and the

where they were going~ Witness: Auditor Right ... Seymour: So that documentation was available

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urn but I still couldn't get whether

or not 80% of that, let's that's

just say $300,000 was truly spent on media buys because what the law says no more than 80% of your indirect

media cost

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can go to well you can't 80% the most that you can, wait am I saying this correct. The consulting Witness: Right so I couldn't make fees can't be more than 20%.

Auditor Seymour: Of that amount, that determination Witness: Auditor

had you filed a form DE14A ... Right Seymour: And that's why I have that violation Ideas cut was

there, I would have been able to see what Creative or portion

of that $305,000 was versus what the media buys was.

There were some invoices for media buys like I said maybe 75% urn but again I couldn't sit there and qualify how much, this urn add from Creative consulting service fee... and say okay this is for their

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Ideas received

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there were something that said consulting and an amount that was in what we're talking

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the take from the media buy not consulting about consulting for packaging.

P.A. Quinon: When you say "the take" what you're talking about if I understand you correctly is that the company

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that does the media buy automatically Wi tness: Percentage ... right

takes a percentage_.

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P.A. Quinon: That goes to them as the buyer ... Witness: happens, Right and I'll explain because this is what

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so I work at La Poderosa right, you know I have a radio

show, two offices down from where I do my radio show there's urn there's sales people right, their sales people on commission work completely

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okay, they don't have any sort of other pay aside

from that and what they're supposed to do is go out and get people to advertise urn in on the La Poderosa one, now what happens, and on La RHC like they provide the

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which is the companion

buyer with a rate sheet; in that rate sheet is their "take", you know the percentage their gonna take from making that sale and goes directly to

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that's how they get paid. Now when a PR company

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the radio station and buys they've cut out the sales person okay, they just go directly that commission and buy so they get what would be for

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okay which they can take or they can reapply

more media, which is what I meant by that you know in a lot of cases Maritza just reacolied it to buy more spots, instead of

j--

39 1 not consulting because and that's why I didn't fill out that form, is I'm gonna sit here and tell you is gonna be

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the consulting

sort of what you have to say and what you're message and we're gonna talk about branding amorphous

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you know, and it is a very

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thing you know and that's why that form exists because

6 it's so amorphous but in, with the media buys you can see that
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11 the percentage sometimes taken you know is sometimes they did and you know to

they didn't which is why it's inconsistent

sort of follow it but it has to do with the fact that they cut out the sales person i~ doesn't mean they provided consulting me with

services I said buy Poderosa buy this buy that and so that's she

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she went out and she did it. And we had a media budget why sometimes

she you know she kept the 10% and sometimes

put it back in. Auditor Seymour: So how much of the $300,000 say Creative Ideas made off of... would you

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Wi tness: Media buy wise . P.A. Quinon: Commission . Witness: Commission right, commission, I don't know I

would have to look at the invoices urn you know ... Auditor Seymour: Because there were certain invoices too

that just said $5,000 ... $10,000 the other thing that I noticed was that Creative Ideas also did some of your bulk mailing of A&B rna lers ... i

through a sub-contractor

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vH t ne ss : Right

Seymour: And they would submit that to a

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Auditor Ideas and Creative campaign ...

Seymour: An invoice

that A&B sent to Creative to the Regalado

Ideas would pass it through

toJi tness: Right ... right ... Auditor Seymour: And then Creative Idea's would get A&B mailers

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the check and they would go ahead and pay reimburse so I didn't understand the relationship

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there at all because

they got a lot of money as well. Witness: mailers Right, A&B mailers, okay the way that A&B at the school board like we sent

work and I just used A&B mailers

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okay like I sent out a Christmas out newsletters because

like newsletter,

at the school board and I used A&B mailers a whole issue with department

they own the list okay, so there's

the list, so you could go directly

to the elections

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and you can pay a fortune for the list okay and you get that list updated breakdown to certain day and that mayor may not give you the does that,

by 5's, 4's, 3'5, 2'5, l's okay A&B mailers

that's what they do, they already

own the list they already I want

break it down, I can call them and say "In South Miami, to send this out to the 5'5, in Westchester to the 3' s, this is how I wan t it to
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I want to send out take

and thev actually

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2 doesn't say head of household, some people like to see their
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somebody died that's always my favorite when you send a mailer to a dead person, or they moved uh you know you get the call,

7 but that's what A&B mailers does uh and we use them in all sorts
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of different campaigns because it would be impossible for an AD

9 agency to have the current list and to continue buying them and
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16 process them correctly and an AD agency doesn't want to be

responsible

if they mess up and they send it to a 1 and 3 like A&B

instead a 5 and a 4 so that's why they use a company mailers

and they're actually most popular ones in Miami-Dade

County because they have County wide lists so if you look at different campaigns campaigns from like you know my campaigns, his and

or Carlos Curbelo

to you know Ileana Ros-Lehtinen they use ... card

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just sent out a mailer now for Christmas Auditor Seymour: reimbursement

Noticed your Christmas

the $12,000 it was for A&B Mailers cards from?

so that's where

you bought Christmas

Wi tness: No ... see A&B mailers are a processer ... no... Auditor Seymour: mailers ... Witness: I don't want the list no, you give them the So they gave you a list for the

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specifications they create a universe okay. So they'll take the in the City of Miami they have that lis~ every that universe this

entire, everybody single add~ess,

and then you say okay within

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is what I want. In district

1 I want you to send it out to the 1 doesn't vote that much okay,

super voters, because district when you go to district the 4's and 5's because

2 there I want you to send it to the 3's those people in this election are going

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to come out more. In this area I just want you to send it to the people who have requested elections, absentee ballots in the last two

okay I want that to go out two weeks before this one

hits okay, so I want you to send out the AS's on this date because AS's hit this day, AS's are due this day after this day I want you to send this universe and you create universes of mailers, these little you

so you do the art for the mailer,

print the mailer and then you.send it to AB with your universe speCifications instructions and they send those out you know per your and that's what you're paying Seymour: for ... cards, you

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Auditor

So the with the Christmas

did that because that's an area of your expertise ... Witness: I did it on Shutter picture, Right, yea we did it on Shutter fly yea, I did the design, fly, I think

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we took the

I did the design

I printed it out, it was the cheapest

way you know to do it, uh and then I sat down with Maritza and we said okay well what's the universe, which way are we going to

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you send them, how you send them, who they're gonna hit is this in comparison example to all your other sort of mailers, who

and how so for

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if you hit, if you send a mailer to someone

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requested

an AB you're not gonna send that person a mailer right, because the AB has already

the been as

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day before the election

turned in, you have to back those people out of the universe, you go further on in the campaign, because so that's what AS does

we can't handle that, that sort of craziness. Auditor Seymour: And you made a statement as to the necessary

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Florida Division of Elections

that you felt it wasn't

to file that form because they weren't paid a commission? Witness: Auditor indirect A consulting fee, correct. fee, urn it's still an and because media

Seymour: A consulting

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expenditure

corning from the campaign

buys are an exception party intermediary

that the state allows you to use the third

to buy media you still have to fill out that from the state on that, because you

form, I would get an opinion had said I didn't Witness: Auditor because

feel the need to fill out that form DE14A ... Right ... Seymour: But you still have to fill it out

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you did use a third party intermediary ... Witness: Right, and after I read your opinion I went

to the city clerk and I found that there hadn't been one submission of that form ...

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in the law I think in 05'... Witness: I know and I asked him since 05' and he

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hasn't gotten one single one. Auditor Seymour: it... M.D.C.E&P.T election *IN AUDIBLE* Auditor elections Seymour: Because if you call the division of Centorino: We need to add that to our Even the experts aren't familiar with

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they'll tell you the same thing, because seen one myself but ...

I'm like show

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me that form, so I haven't

(EVERYONE SPEAKING AT ONCE *IN AUDIBLE*) S.A. Saladrigas: it's your testimony billed the Regalado their invoice? Witness: Yea they mislabeled it, you know. question, there when Ms. Regalado just to clarify then Ideas Advertising fees they mislabeled

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then that if Creative campaign

for consulting

S.A. Saladrigas:

And one other little

we were dOing the examination

of all these documents

seemed to be a fairly good array of variations signatures as they purportedly

on your

appear on this form, did you each appears on any of these forms

and every time that your signature

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S.A. Saladrigas: Witness:

No one signed

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S.A. Saladrigas: Witness: way through

Do you sign in different

I just sign it yea; well my name changed

I think ... No, in respect to that ... You looked at all the forms and

S.A. Saladrigas: M.O.C.E&P.T all the filings? Witness:

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Centorino:

Yes I've looked at all the filings. Centorino: And that is your signature?

M.D.C.E&P.T Witness:

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Yes it is my signature ... There are subsequent variations ... like

S .A. Saladrigas: Witness: on top of something

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I think there's times where I've signed

or just signed it in a hurry but yeah ... I just wanted to make sure because we

S.A. Saladrigas:

kept looking at it and saying boy you know if you had a signature accepted card at a bank half these signatures by the bank, so we were wondering wouldn't be maybe

for expediency

they were signed ... Witness: No It's your testimony that every time

S.A. Saladrigas: your signature ... Witness:

I s i oried it ...

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-Mr. Rosen:

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Q. There were approximately
let's go back to contributions that were deposited receipt, deposited anything
A.

11 checks

contributions

now,

side for minute,

contributions

into the account

more than 5 days after

as I'm sure your aware 106 says they have to be within 5 days, there were 11 of them, do you know

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about that? Yes ...

Q. I can tell you what some of them are if you like? A. Right, no ... I looked at them I looked no, You know like I said this campaign okay, there's ran mainly at your report.

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with bundling do your and the

two ways to raise money,

you physically

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dog and pony show you know you have your hors d'oeuvres person in charge of the dog and pony show collects at the end they gave them to you, usually

the check and

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the day after because

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for you, you know and give you because they know

sort of the break down with the occupations these people and for the most part you don't

know these people you know

urn so that's who usually

like you know your typical

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sort of cut tail with the candidate checks.

uh on how you get those

You know we didn't have a lot of time in this case he was all over the place, he was still Horking,

campaian,

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we did not have time to be doing like one cocktail one cocktail party tomorrow ... uh we really decided so with bundling and the way that the bundling works

party today to just go

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is a person you their

says "you know I commit

that I'm going to raise $10,000"

know and then they get on the phone and they start calling friends and their friends start sending them checks they get those $10,000 together with a photocopies controlling

and when

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they come and give it to you the thing is I have no way of for money or you impress upon short time

and occupation,

how long they've been asking people

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people period

the need to keep them within a relatively that mayor may not happen,

I deposited ... would say the I he got them I mean them uh

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vast majority

of those checks and the minute

he was so quick to come and give them to me and deposit he was really on the ball on that, so I feel completely confident because

telling you that every single one of those it's by someone in advance and by the

they were requested

time they got to us it was passed the 5 days but once we had them we deposited them, and we deposited them quickly for a

series of reasons. Number one to comply with law and number two because you don't want to lose these things so really the minute of it you

somebody hands you the bundle and you have photocopies just want to run to the bank because

the last thing you want to

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thing that I can tell you that we did do with precision depositing

was the

them as soon as we got them but I had no way to sort amount of

of force people to give them to me within a certain time. Q. Okay and all of them that I'm speaking not primarily, completely on 1 deposit,

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of were primarily 5th of 2009,

November

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there were 11 checks

that had been; at least the checks were between 6 days to 59

dated prior to 5 days before that, ranging days earlier ... A. Right well that makes more sense, completely bundles in line with what I'm telling

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I mean that is you about sort of how them as I got them

work, right so you know I deposited

in the bundle so if someone gave me a bundle that they had been holding for a while, there's nothing that I could do about that ...

S.A. Saladrigas:

If you looked at that list could you Did it look like one organizer? looking at the

tell if it was from one bundle?

Mr. Rosen: And for the record you're list.

(ASA Rosen show witness Witness: Yea, I'm looking

list)

at the list. Not just from and sort

looking at it I mean I could look up the corporations of tell you. Auditor Seymour: The August

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12th one that was deposited

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S.A. Saladrigas after the election. Auditor Witness: Auditor

& Mr. Rosen: They were

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some closer to that date of November

5th that were 10,9,7,6,5

9 whatever number of days late. That one would stick out in my
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mind. -Mr. Rosen:
Q. Your father

said something

about urn at one point in time in it that might

there was an envelope

with one or more checks

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have gotten lost in his car in the car seat or under car seat or something like that? that's possible too but again I don't I

A. That's possible,

mean I have no way of knowing that. I mean it was a million dollar campaign I mean I have decent memory but I really can't to mention about

tell you and another sort of the madness running

thing I think is important

of this is urn when he announced
him checks

that he was and it was

for Mayor people started mailing

really sweet at first urn and then it just got to be an enormous pain right? because people are mailing you $10 and $15 checks if

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you look I mean I think, I think the final count was he raised

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like "eh, not that bad" relatively

lot of checks coming from all directions

Q. You're aware of the fact a candidate

the election report? A. Yes

is over in which to close out their account,

Q. Collecting

disposition

of the funds right?

A. Yes Q. Okay, now the election here took place on November 3rd of of

2009, which meant that the surplus funds had to be disposed by January 31st of 2010, the bank records reflect

that in fact which

the account that it was in, it was originally became as you know Wells Fargo ... A. Right ...

Wachovia

Q. Was not closed until July 9th of 2011 and there was an

average monthly balance there ...

for the year before that of $2,082 in

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Q. In other words

still in the account

after the campaign

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was over ... A. Right, what happened was he was really concerned uh the IRS aspect of it_ Mr. Rosen: Tell us about that ... A. Because the different there had been so many workers right? So for all to about

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workers

you have to submit their information

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the IRS so what he did is he hired Mirtha Guerra-Aguirre

which

is his cousin who has always done his taxes, she's always done all his taxes and stuff...todo that aspect of it. So she was the one that filed all the 1099's and when she filed them she got a letter back saying you know a lot of these things
Q. A letter back from whom?

are wrong.

A. From the IRS saying a lot of these things are wrong, then she called him and said uh ~listen, I'm concerned about

so

these things being wrong, if they're wrong we have to pay a fineN urn concerned about how the fine is gOing to work, well

what do you think the fine is gonna be you know so they had that, that discussion, and she said ~I think $2,000 will cover

sort of whatever madness may ensue" Okay, so they have that conversation, we end the campaign you have a certain amount a

months before we have to disburse the same thing, he picks churches, this discussion a million

the funds, my dad always does he feels that these we've had

times, I don't fight him on this but

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it's a bad non for profit, you know so we sat down how much money is left you know he said well there's this $2,000 for IRS

thing you know what's left from there okay divvy it up, right

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happen with the IRS stuff and if there was any other people sort of showed up and cashed their checks. told you, January In January like I

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is when my father and I have the discussion in November and

about me running for office so he gets elected

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campaign account in February ... Auditor Witness: Seymour: Of 2010? 2010 right, so then February 2010 we start

raising money for another campaign election on August

which is now gonna have an went from one

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thing to another in that sense. And what he did was he put it in the trust account in her trust account uh when he had to close out the account urn we thought that; that was done, we really thought okay she said that they were gonna charge us this, this is what they're gonna charge us, if not honestly if he didn't

think that it was done, he would have given it away I mean he gains nothing from sort of putting it in a trust account, and

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then sort of when all the questions

came up about this well what

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account -Mr. Rosen:
Q. But the question

that I have it wasn't

put into the

trust account

for quite some time, I mean as of July 9th 2011... Seymour: July 21~t it was closed, in 2010 ... see are you

Auditor

talking about, you opened campaign Wi tness: Auditor February ... Seymour:

In February

2010 and your father's

was still open in February of 2010, and that's when

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10 did you become concerned about it... we knew about

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in 2010.

Witness:

No we knew about the $2,000,
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the $2,000 issue before because when she tells him there's not he would have divvied -Mr. Rosen:

mean he set that money aside if

this issue with the IRS because it up ...

Q. When you say set aside it was just left in the account?

A. Right, no what happened is he sits down you know once he
gets sworn in and says how much money is left in the account so we can give it away ... Auditor Seymour: Right the statement did reflect that

Witness:

Right,

right so when I say set aside is he and

said well here's $2,000 we're gonna leave it in the account, that's to pay the IRS whenever they hit us with the fine for

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or did not know the requirements decision,

of 106 when he made that

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in other words what I'm trying to get at is did he

consider the IRS issues and the need to pay those fines more important than not violating the state law or did he just not

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know about the state law? Witness: I have no idea, I mean I have no idea, I know about sort of what would happen with the

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that he was concerned

IRS and how do you pay the IRS and out of what. You know what money you can pay the IRS because she'd been clear that it had to be from campaign funds and not personal funds so he was

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concerned about sort of how you pay the IRS when they come back and they tell you there's an issue with the 1099's. S.A. Saladrigas: the 90 day requirement At what point did you become aware of the

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to close the account and disburse

funds? Was it back then or recently? Were you aware of it back then I guess that's my question? Witness: discussion I don't remember you know having that

with him, I mean you know I just didn't you know. I

remember that the last discussion we had about was sort of when we sat down and we said what you're going to do with the money, here it is you know boom, boom, boom, and that's sort of that

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Centorino:

Did you ever provide

legal

advice to your father on any of these issues? Witness: No Centorino: Did anybody provide to you or any of

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M.D.C.E&P.T

to the campaign or your father legal advice concerning the campaign finance issues?

Witness:

Urn well I mean we obviously ...

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M.D.C.E&P.T

Centorino:

No I'm talking

about during the

don't know ... Witness: No, no, no not during the campaign, I mean I do patent litigation
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no ... ... and I wouldn't no no couldn't . M.D.C.E&P.T

mean

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Centorino:

You know just that did it occur hearing ...

to you that listen this is a specialized Witness: Right ... Centorino:

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M.D.C.E&P.T competent

If you yourself

didn't

feel

in that area that you might have gotten these issues ...

some other

advice on how to handle

Wi tness: No we didn't ... -Mr. Rosen: is a Campaign
I

want to direct your attention Report Summary

to exhibit

Treasurers

and it's clocked
3rd of 2010,

in at the clerk, City Clerk's office on February okay and it has contributions date of $657,~10.q?. of $808,789.90

and expenditures

to

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SQ.

form, the contribution

form says nothing

on this form and I know that's not signed ... A. Right ... Or anything ... A. Urn I didn't see this until way after, way after the it right?

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fact, and if I would have seen it I would have signed Q. Would it be fair that you really didn't started? looking, started

see it until

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A. Yea, yea when we started at them Q. And is it your testimony

looking

back

that you never saw this or your know?

may have seen it and just didn't sign it or you don't A. No I never saw it, because would have signed it. S.A. Saladrigas: Mr. Rosen: M.O.C.E&P.T There is a second form .

if I would have seen it I

I know I'm getting Centorino:

into that . known that a filed

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You must've

report would have to be submitted Witness: Right Centorino:

by the campaign ...

M.O.C.E&P.T the candidate

That the campaign

treasurer

and

would have to sign. *WITNESS SHAKES HEAD* Is that r i cht , I mean ...

Witness:

M.D.C.E&P.T

Centorino:

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M.D.C.E&P.T Centorino: Did you think where it is? We

haven't signed a campaign was something

you know did you not think that this

that needed to be done at the time? Well urn we knew they were putting we had it together

Witness:

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I mean like I said, the last conversation sat down we decided

about it we

what we're going to do with the surplus churches

funds you know that's it, you know these are different

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you're going to give it to you know we're done. And at that point once we made those decisions you know it was understood

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that we wrote those checks those would be put in the final you know campaign expenditure report and that was it... Which you would have to sign ...

M. D.C. E&P. T Centorino: Witness:

Which I would have to sign right. Centorino: It's just hard to understand a Mayoral campaign neither

M.D.C.E&P.T

how you know a significant the candidate

campaign

or the campaign treasurer

signs the final report honestly that

that's submitted shocking

to the City Clerk's office,

to me as somebody who has looked at these campaigns it how

reports for years and years I'm just trying to understand how that happened. Witness:

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I don't know, I mean we've talked about it they knew they had to he did it late or he ran over
t

after the fact I think you know Armando; hand something in you know and something

did it wrona or \ har eve r and then he::> ... ;llsr
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campaign I thought finance that the clerk wouldn't report that wasn't Centorino: accept it right? A

signed ... at all these

M.D.C.E&P.T reports, why wouldn't

He's been looking

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he pick up the phone

and say look I got

the report you guys gotta sign it. I mean did he even do that? Witness: Auditor Wi tness: No, I don't yea, that's ... Seymour: And this was Armando who did this?

Right that's yea ... Centorino: The other surprising *IN and

M.D.C.E&P.T AUDIBLE*

with the discrepancy

between

the contributions

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did he ever explain that to you? No I'm showing you now, what's marked as and

Witness:

-Mr. Rosen: exhibit

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4 which is in fact urn is a checked treasurers report

off amendment

it's again a Campaign it's an amendment without

summary

final report, filed here on it. 1:14pm)

to the one that was originally

the signatures

and this one has two signatures (EXHIBIT 4 ENTERED

INTO RECORD Herrera

Q. And one of them says Raquel

Regalado

is that

your signature
A.

on it?

Yea

Q. SO you indeed in fact sign this report?
A.

Yes to office account of

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Q.I note that it has on here transfers

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»: Right
Q.

Which is permitted

by law ...

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A. Right
Q.

As way of dispose

of surplus campaign funds.

funds ...

A. Right, surplus campaign

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Q. And the rest of the funds, it's your testimony churches? A. Right Q. Where is that noted anywhere? has attached nothing to it is a urn contribution

went to

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I mean this form all it sheet I mean there's

at all that talks about ... there was report yea before

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A. If you look at the report, this the one before this has it. M.D.C.E&P.T Centorino:

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The unsigned questioning

one? to S.A. Saladrigas) the

(Auditor directing Auditor treasurer Seymour: reports?

Do you have all the CTR'S

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here.

S.A. Saladrigas:

I do in my file at the office

not

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Auditor

Seymour:

For purposes

of this exhibit,

I may on

not have put the ... this is what was actually yea February 3~ just these three pieces of paper~ M.D.C.E&P.T suggesting Centorino:

filed though

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I think you're saying

you're

there was a prior reoort ...

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Q. SO are you saying

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there's another

final report that was

done prior to this one? A. No I'm saying that there is a report final expenditures that has all the churches and it's

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on it which has all the different

you know and I checked all that with the expenditures on there.
Q. And it's signed?

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A. It's signed yea P.A. Quinon: Maybe you're talking quarterly type of report? Mr. Rosen: Maybe it was a quarter before but, but if about like the

it was at the very end it would be on the final... Witness: not a quarterly No it's after, it's after the election because I couldn't it's have

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it's after the election

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before the election

told you how much money was gonna be left

over ... mean that's ... I Auditor Seymour: Of the campaign citing and putting this together I didn't because it, to me you know when something violations I was

put all of that doesn't balance and I

looked at what the expenses on here, it doesn't Witness: I understand

matter ... I mean if you

but it's deceptive

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show me this and you know and you say well if you have this one

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t.he final surplus stuff is there it's in the expenditure M.D.C.E&P.T Centorino: Did that report balance?

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Auditor Seymour: None of them balanced ... M.D.C.E&P.T Centorino: None of them balanced.

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Auditor Seymour: My issue was the fact that they didn't balance. M.D.C.E&P.T Centorino: Did you not realize that each

one of those reports weren't balanced? Witness: Well I mean the issue with the balance get into the amendments number correctly, you

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you know, and sort of did they put the the whole

and now that I have reconstructed

thing I continue to tell you that just because balance in the front doesn't tell you anything,

the two numbers as you back

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stuff in and put stuff out and back stuff in and put stuff out the numbers are constantly M.D.C.E&P.T recognize changing. A campaign of this size I

Centorino:

that there is going to be a lot you know discrepancies regarding the checks, you

that are going to arise *IN AUDIBLE*

saw in the report that it didn't balance, would saw we have a problem, you know.

I would think that you

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In theory ... see I Centorino: And if you saw a report that

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didn't filed.

M.D.C.E&P.T balance,

I would think that the report would be properly

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Witness:

Right, I understand,

I understand

what you're

saying but see the follow up question you signed one that did balance

to this is gonna be then

and are you and idiot because

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look the numbers are the same but there's no back up, you see

9 there's no winning this, you see where there's no winning this?
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So if the numbers don't add up then you're a moron because you

11 didn't realize that the numbers don't add and if then if someone
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add up and then well didn't

the backup how is it the numbers add up, so it's no winning argument,

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I'm a moron either way right, is the way that this is

gonna you know ... M.D.C.E&P.T Centorino: You as the treasurer you say

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look I want some back up paperwork ... Witness: But I'm telling you that the idea of that

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every time that you get the one of these, I wish you had them in here so you can see how mammoth Auditor thought they are ... I just

Seymour: Oh I have them in my office, I understand

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this was a close out meeting,

that there I wish

were statements
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aonna be taken but to go into this detail

. .. ....

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4 one ~ha~ was filed on March 1c:.r:h
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I believe what you're saying

but I don't think that one was ever filed, the one that you're talking to me about ... S.A. Saladrigas: But it was signed by both you and

5 your father.
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7 (Auditor Seymour directing Auditor perfected Seymour: questioning to S.A. Saladrigas)

It was signed but it was never

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12

or whatever ... S.A. Saladrigas: Auditor It was date stamped. The City Clerk?

Seymour: By Pricilla?

S.A. Saladrigas: Auditor

The date stamped

Seymour: So there was three ... Yes ma'am, there was this one filed the one \-lith the date_.

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14 without unsigned

S.A. Saladrigas:

signatures ... Here's the chronology report is filed in that February Auditor Seymour: Okay

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S.A. Saladrigas: City Clerk to the campaign

And that creates

a letter from the you have original

saying this is unacceptable Another

to sign it and then it would be to reconcile.

report date stamped March 15th reflects the same un-reconcile numbers and signatures there's no written are fixed, that is somehow rejected but that same

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record of why it was rejected

day the second amended report with the 848 on both sides is filed, it s the third date stamped ...
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1 Q. Haquel do you follow what they think happened chronology
A.

with the

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here? and

Listen ... guys figure it out, you ask me a question you

I'll answe r , ~.D.C.E&P.T Centorino: Again the worse part of this discrepancy one

5
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whole thing in my opinion

is that there's a $150,000 there's

that shows up on the final report, apparently version

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9

that was signed by you and by the candidate

we don't

have the files here, that's really ... anybody that's a campaign treasurer problem or candidate should go wait a minute this is a big to me

10
11

here, let's look into this, let's deal with it,

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that's worse, a lot of other things are fairly minor opinion but that's a problem. $150,000 appears to be missing filed.

in mine

It's not a $5.00 discrepancy; from a report. And these are

things that are publicly

Mr. Rosen: Anything

else, any other questions? questions to P.A. Quinon) is that

(ASA Rosen directing

P.A. Quinon: All I gotta say to Joe's response unless when they bring things to you the people

that you trust

that do this kind of work it reminds me of my own accounting with my firm and had we say the same thing, one of these day's I'm gonna sweat it out somebody's I have an accountant gonna call me on this because years,

that I've had now for 20something

Ralph Maya, he's always done my accounting

he puts at the end of

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1 2 I have is a little sticker that says ~SIGN THERE" and I go 5ign_. sign ... ... qn.; and I submit to the IRS right and this goes on sign s i every year, quarterly reports are the same thing they're brought

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7

to me from his office and it's a little sticker with a little arrow that says "sign" I look at it and I sign it now your question problem, to me is Quinon are you an idiot after there's a why didn't you go an look at this? And my response to

8

you is "Joe, for me to really analyze

this thing, I would have without that I can't

9 to take a look at the underline materials,
10
11 keep my accountant honest because

Ralph as much as I trust him and like him I

I would have to take a look at it and basically

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13

would have to do some of the work that he did. When I go to him I trust that he's a professional work, his accounting that's he's going to do his

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15 16 17 18 19 20

work and I'm gonna rely on him and I do

rely on him okay? And that's what this reminds me of, I understand that. M.D.C.E&P.T are publicly Centorino: This is another arena, these

filed and if you're the Mayor of the City you know let's face it. That somebody is gonna look at I'm gonna make

you have evidence these things,

I mean if I put myself

at position

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and I'm certifying accurate.

this is true I'm gonna make sure this is

P.A. Quinon:

Do you think that arena frightens

me more you

24

than an IRS agent from cro knocking the door "Hey Quinon,
•• ~. I. ' •• ,

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1 and we're investigating 2 the public arena. S.A. Saladrigas: P.A. Quinon: But. Jose you got ta admi t.,.. youH to me that's more frightening than

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7

Yea ... If the day comes that your accountant. could go up

S.A. Saladrigas:

screws up and the IRS comes knocking your accountant

and defend you at the IRS hearing but you're gonna the check it's your responsibility whether you liked it or not ...

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Auditor Seymour: S.A. Saladrigas: you signed it. P.A. Quinon: no criminal liability

Then you could sue your accountant~ Whether you read it or whether didn't

Couple of things, number because the accountant

one is there is and

made a mistake

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I relied up on him that's number one okay. So let's start with that, second of all you know in this scenario there~s no loss,

in the IRS there would be and I would have to write here there's no issue. You see what's important the end of the day these people made mistakes honest mistakes

the check,

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about this at

but they were at all that

in the sense that there's no money

anybody can say that was put in their pockets spent okay, that is a critical

or inappropriately

issue, so at the end of the day I okay, to some

look at this as they did rely upon the accountants extent you have more vigilant

I think this has been a hell of a about it. As

lesson for them in this matter there's no question

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1 knows what they're doing and we have to pay for it because like

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4

he said cheap is cheap okay and so bottom like Bill is with me at least is that it's no different accountant and I understand than my rely on the

when I sign the darn thing that screws and the IRS that you I

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someday he could screw up because everybody

can come in and say you know what you deducted matters should not have deducted or you failed to declare wouldn't be able to pick it up, honestly

X amount

8

I wouldn't

be able to

9 pick it up.
10
11 accountant M.D.C.E&P.T Centorino: And this reflects on the

to let's face it... P.A. Quinon: M.D.C.E&P.T Right of course Centorino: I can't say a candidate who

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15

relies on accountant

is not doing the right thing, you have you anticipate that they gonna do a

someone who's an accountant

16 thorough job and an accurate job and you know~
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Witness: And he's my uncle ... M.D.C.E&P.T happen. P.A. Quinon: No I mean listen I know you have to take in the context of what happened here. Raquel the mother used to do Centorino: And this kind of thing is gonna

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this every year, and they relied upon it and she did it for a number of elections mother and the father became very reliant upon the

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who passed ewa y , She passes away about that time, okay

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1 the loss of his wife she on the other hand takes over she

2 doesn't know anything about accounting,
3
own nightmare her own divorce

she's going through

her

and her own problems

with the kids

4

you know, so we have a mixture

here this is one of those with some very serious of what they're doing this of

5 circumstances
6
7 personal reliance

unique in a way mixture lack of knowledge

problems,

upon people that you cannot rely upon because never did this before,

8 9

fellow Armando probably

in the middle

this thing, this campaign they realize maybe Armando

is not the

10 person let's bring in Oscar, Jose Oscar but he's in the middle
11 of this thing, and by that time you have a lot of things that have gone, contributions that were not properly noted and you there's

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know things were not done properly, no dispute

there's no question

about that but those were mistakes

and at the end of

the day you know when we look at this again they relied on and yes

16 people that they should not have relied on in retrospect 17 18
20

can you make a case that they should have been more vigilant, yea I think so, yea and I think they would agree with that and I

19 think they would agree with that, but you know what you learn in
many ways going through life by mistakes a situation intentionally a dam whether you know but it was not

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where you know they were doing anything wrong or doing in such a cavalier way I don't give in

it's right or wrong there were issues personal

n2ture and lack of knnwledqe and reliance and when vou take it

69
1 price in this because 2
3

this has been the press

they've

been

really I mean you all have read the articles resol ve this ... M.D.C.E&P.T Centorino: We didn't

and you know

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5
6 7 opinion

put it in the press.

P.A. Quinon:
Witness:

I know that and I'm not saying that.

We've been tried in the court of public thinks
we stole

and the court of public opinion

$150,000

8 right that you know we're living off it that we took money and
9 10 11 12
clearly we've had to explain that's not the case. on this it's gonna won't be any

Mr. Rosen: When we write a report state that; that's about that.

not the case. There

questions

13
14
beginning.

P.A. Quinon:

That's how it was presented

in the

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16

Witness: what we had.

That's

how it was presented

and that's sort

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18 19 20

M.O.C.E&P.T

Centorino:

All they see is the discrepancy

but they don't have the back up to it, and we have the back up to it. Witness: Nor do they care about the backup, that's not

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24

a story right you know. My reliance

on my uncle and you know the that you know and

other guy isn't a story urn you know we recognize we recognize

that that's you know the part of the interest, and let mp tell vau somethina and it is

quite honestly,

70
1 2 of your life right, urn you know my father urn you know my father is a very simple person but he's a fantascic person and I'm very

3

proud of him and I don't that it's fair that he has to go through this because I think he has done some great work at the by what I how it's so sort of what

4

5 City of Miami and I think it has been overshadowed
6
7 understand important is at best negligent and I understand

to you and how you're so concerned

about

8 9
10 11

the public thinks about a public

filing uh but in the grand

scheme of things there's so many things that so many people have done that do not receive this scrutiny that we received sort of ask yourself everyday why you put yourself and you

and your

12 children and your family through it right when you know your
13 14 15 16 17
18 held to a standard that is higher than everybody else. So you

know that's why we're here and that's why we came that's why we're happy to answer and we're willing mistake that we probably to say that we made a

bit off more than we can chew at a time

that we just didn't

know better urn I really can't tell you more he'll never do

than that. He's never done anything willfully, anything

19 20

incorrect you know urn and I think that you know you've us how many

seen that, how many times have you investigated

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24

times you know have we been put through this for political reasons and you know okay fine so you make mistakes think that they're actionable people would want for political but I don't

you know to the point that other reaRons to see them pan
01lt.

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4 happen ... Wi tness: I know that ... P.A. Quinon: We know that, we discussed
do Lnq your duty I mean ...

that you're

S

M.D.C.E&P.T

Centorino:

If it makes you feel any better and usually those

6 7
8

I've seen people steal people from campaigns reports are pristine. Wi tness: Right ... -Mr. Rosen: Q. Raquel you've understood today?

9
10 11 12

all of our questions

here

A. Yes
Q. Anything else you want to change, add, modify?

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15 16 17

A. No that's it. Mr. Rosen: Thank you for coming in, appreciate (End of statement it. 1:28pm)

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72 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 I, Puja Shah, hereby certify that the foregoing transcript consisting of 72 pages, is a complete of the testimony true, REPORTER'S CERTIFICATE

and accurate transcript held on Wednesday, Attorney's Office,

indicated,

January 4tt of 2012 at the State E.R. Graham Building, 1350 N.W. 12th of

Avenue, Miami, Florida, Raquel Aurora Regalado

33136, Sworn Statement INVESTIGATION NUMBER:

64-11-20.

11
12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 Date: March 14, 2012 I, further certify that this proceeding was reported by Puja Shah, and that the foregoing transcript has been prepared by me.

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