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OEPARTMEN'f OF UNIVERSITY SAFETY - INCIDENT REPORT
Punt':'t of 11 year old mala reported that hSf son was huggQd in It shower room by a sraff mf!mber. IrW8stigation determined that a 10 yeor old male was atso hugged in the shower at a different time by '(he slime !'staff member. Il"1vl!stiaatiQn continlJing by this df;tpartm~nt and Centre County Childron &. Youth Services 8ure;lu & tho Centro Court Otstrlct s Off'(:e. •
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Mrs. sed that a situation W.'1S br~ght to hei attention and she didn't ~hOW what to do or who to contact, She ralated U'\,e following informs On May 3, 1998, at approximately 9:00 p.m., her had returned home atter spending approximate-tv 4 hours ~wjth a m JERRY KY. SANDUSKY who is affiliated with the Second Mi1e Program had met her approximately 1 month prior ilt a Second MilE\ event. to ~ .;; nee and asked 3, 1998, during the afternoon hours, SANDUSKY calle • t.! he wanted t0l10 to the 'gym and su.hsequentlY picked UP at their: r~~idenc~xtm~teIY 7;00 p.m. Mrs._advised .... 'a.rnl~ n'....... come home at if' w~s wet and asked him approximatery 9; JERRY.. Upon further wPy It was wBt. hug in the Questioning Mrs. they Reporting ;;IS into ~tt.epolice office so that he
could b~ interviewed.
On May 4. 1998, at 11:26 a.rn. - Reporting Officar interviewed
with the approval of his mother thf:J interview tape reeo
was asked to explain what hap·Pflned on campus on May
said that he was caned by JERRY SANDUSKY during the afternoon of May 3. 1998, and asked him if he wanted to go to the gym. _"'ad previously met JERRY
SANDUSKY through the Second Mile Program. At approximate'y 7:00 o.rn., SANDUSKY pic up at his residence and that they went in SANDUSKY's car to the locker room on campus which he stated was next to Holuba Han. was asked to d;escribe the locker room. he said that there was gear for the football players (helmets. pads). He was asked what they did in the IQcker room, he said wrestfed. was asked what he was wearing Clod said a After changing clothes said that SANDUSKY and him work.ed out on the weight machines. s asked how they wrestled and he said, " I tried to pin JERRY and JERRY
When asked how long they tAJ r'a .. 't-! 0=.,11 asked how long thay worked out on the most.
said maybe one or two minutes. He wa~ and he said about 15 minutes, 20 at the :
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they (SANDUSKY and him) then played a game caned "PollS so cer" "Polish bowling," The game was pl,ayed by making a ball out of tape and kicked tht"i baH into trash cans. He said they played that game for 5 or 7 minutes. . said that SANDUSKY got undressed was going to take a shower and he wanted to take a shower, yes that he was kind of
where he was at if he wanted to come
that while he was in the
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On May 4. 1998, at 12:55 p~m.• Reporting Officer talked Irker) for the Cent of Rs to MILLER the information obtained from the inter v iew MILLeR advised that he would review the incident to ... ,.~ ~ ........ work with Reporting Officer. MILLER subsequently called back and advised that he would be meeting with Reporting
Officer around 6:00 p.m. at the University Police Office.
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On May 4. 1998, at approximately 4:00 p.m., Reporti~(fOffi~~
incident with Assistant District Attorney KAREN ARNOLD. ARNOLD recommended everyone be interviewed as soon as poss~
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On May 4, ~998, at 8:10 p.rn., County Children & Youth Services, interyiewed
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interview was tapa recorded and was asked about the conversation he had concerning JERRY SANOUSKY . •••• said that he had been to campus two (2t times with SANDUSKY. He said th~t he had met SANDUSKY thrQugh a second Mile Program and that on one occasion he couldn't remember the date that SANDUSKY took him to the gym to lift wEtiabts. that they used the treadmill and the Universal gym.~ he also said he wrestled "JERRY" and that he
on to say that he had taken a shower with
JERRY" while in the shower
JERRY" come behind and lifted him up in a beat h were ,a chair how he was hugged. The detaifed interview will bG attac""d to this report.
• When asked how close they demonstrated using
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On May 4. 1998, at approximately 9:30 p.m, as .-_,.n'r'QnIlA'UU",.rl by Reporting Officer and JOHN MILLER conc8rhing tbe incident in the shower. added some additional information about being in the shower with SANDUSKY. said after he ugged b SANDUSKY that SANDUSKY told him he still had soae_in his hair. SANDUSKY picked 7 • up bV the back of his fegs and lifted him up towards the- shower htlad. ~Iso stated that he first wont to a shower that was approximately 5 feet from SANO' '$KY and that SANDUSKY turned a shower on that next to him approximately 3 feet away. _ again state at made him feel uncomfcrtabte. Detailed transcribed stat;nent will be made part of this report.
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'1 'Y' On May 5, 1998. at 1 :55 p.m .• Reporting Officer received a phone c~"·from ERRY LAURO of the Regional Office of the Dept. of Welfare in Harrisburg ph.II •••••• LAURO who is a Program "Reptesentative advised that htl was assigned to follow UP on the case as a result of the referral from Centre County Children & Youth Services. LAURO advised he wou.d moet with Reporting Officer on Mav 7, 1998. in the A.M. to interview SANDUSKY.
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her answerinq machine on The recorded message said~ HHi this is JERRY SANDUSKY. ! was caUing hopefully to talk to and ah ..he cen give me a call lit _ t didn/t know whether he was doing anything tomorrow afternoon or something if he wanted to work out or do something but ah if I don't hear from him I'll talk to him eventuahv. thanks." The faot that Mrs._has caller 10 she was able to retrieve the dates and times of two (21 ather phone calls trom SANDUSKY, Mav 3, 1998 at 3:36 p.m. from phone ~ and May 3, 1998 at 5:42 p.m. from phone'_. The phone calf that was made on Mav 6, 1999, at 9: 19 p.rn, actually showed the call was On Mey 7,1998, at 11 :00 a.m .• Reporting Officer and Inv. WAYNE WEAVER met with' Y LAU Representative) Office of Children, Youth & Families, address! • PA, Ph# received the transcribed statements ahd that he reviewed the file of JOHN IVIII-Lo;.n CtJntra County Office of Children and Youth Services. LAURO also gave Reporting Officer a written notification as per there regulations Titled Report of Suspected Abuse to Law Enforcement Official. Reporting Officer was given a copy of the Childtine Report of Suspected Child Abuse and Neglect. Copies of these reports will be attached to this supp'ementaJ report. At approximately 11~' 5 a.m., Reporting Officer, WAYNe WEAVER and JERRY LAURO went to the residence of LAURO interviewed the mother and Reporting Officer recovered a gray T-shirt brand name Russell Athlatics size XL. blue gym shorts Brand name NIKE and a pair of white_ (NtKE) socks lhat SANDUSKY had given to~n M~v 3. 1998.
met with for the purpose of recording a message that was left on 6, 1998, at 9:19 o.m.
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On May 7, 1998 •..E!_eporting Officer was advised doing the ps~hological evaluatfon that was being ...r''' .....,'''''" r some further investigation was done. On Mav 8. 1998, at 11 :20 a.m .• Reporting Officar contacted JOHN MILLER of the Centre County Children & Youth Services and requested that the meeting wjth th"'6""psychologist be delayed for a few days. MILLER advised that he wasn't involved in the investigation other than he arranged the appointment for May 8, 1998 at 12:00 p.m. On May 5, 1998, at 11:40 a.rn., Officer contacted JERRY l AI,lRO of the Harrisburg Office of the Department of Welfare and requested that it be delayed a few days, LAURO advised that he didn't have a problem with that but that Reporting Officer should contact JOHN MILLER. On May 8, 1998, at 11 :50 a.rn., Reporting Officer called MILLER and advised him of the' conversatlen with LAURO and it was decided that it would be " On May 8, 1998, at 11 :57 a.rn .. Aeporting Officer and advised that the appointment had been canceled. On May 8, 1998, at 11:55 a.rn., JERRY LAURO called back and said he was told by his suoervtsor to- '~f.orwai:d'with the JOHN MILLER" was calling teU or to On May 8,1998. at 1:10 p.m. called Reporting Officer and advised she had received the phone message from JOHN MILLER and was confused. I again explained the various phone calls and apologized for the contusion. On May 8,1998, at 1 :20 p.m.,_ caned Reporting Officer and advised that s appointment was now ~OO p.m .• this date Mav 8, 1998. On May 8, 1998, at 12:30 p.m .. Reportirlg Officer submitted by ALYCIA ~: CHAMBERS Ph.D (Psychologist) ref. her 98. The report will be attached to this supplemental report.
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On May 9. 1998, at 8:30 a.m., Reporting Office( contacted _"""'"""~ County Children and Youth Services Office ref. the meeting that with the psychologist on May S, ised that he a discussion with the psychologist who he identified s JOHN SEASOCK. ILLER advised that SEASOCK had interviews ref. unrelated case. a VIsed that he would leave a message for SEA SOCK to contact Repotting Officer. On May 9, 1998, at 12:10 p.m., Reporting Officer raceived a phone call from JOHN who is a consultant with Centra County Mental Health and Children & Youth Services. SEASOCK advised that his office prtmarlly works with adult 6ffanders but that they also worked with abused children. SEASOCK advised that then~ hg said th s story sistent. SEASOCK stated he went into the that he didn't have arty background. SEASOCK didn't review the transcripts ot interview Of') the report submitted by ALYSIA CHAMBERSI_'S
SEASOCK said that ' heard of a 52 year old becoming a pedo hile. When asked if it was possible, he said "possible. SEASOCK said he couldn't find any indication of .. hild c abuse at this tillle. _ SEASOCK was asked if had told him about NDUSkY k' , the head and this is what said no. K was asked was (tgssing him on the arm). SEASOCK said said no but that said that JERRY
..... :;.,~v...,CK was asked whethe~told o Id come to his house and sit
him that JERRY tofd_ ria
that SEASOCK said
SEASOCK was asked him that JERRY promised him football tickets. SEASOCK said 110_ SEASOCK said that SANDUSKY didn't fit the profile of a pedophile. Reporting Officer asked SEASOCK jf ha was going to interview th; 10 year old __ SEAS said he wasn't asked but that I lice wanted it aone he would. SEASOCK al stated you can't walk awa from the investi atlo . SOCK advised that he would be submitting a report of ref his interview SEASOCK also furnished his phone On May 10. 1998. at 4:30 p.m., Aeportlng Officer rece ~ a page fro~
Reporting Officer contacted?? p.rn, and a
since she had previously left a message on SANDUSKY's answering machine would be out of town over the weekend.
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On May 11, 1998. at 5:30 p.m, Reporting OfficeI' was contacted '15~ wHo advised the following. On May 11, 1998, prior to 11 :00 a.m., she had left a message for JOHN SEA SOCK the psychologist who interviewed _ to call her. On May 11, 1998, at 11 :05 a.m., she received a phone call from SEASOCK .... SEASOCK that she as concerned €lbout SANDUSKY r son • ._,..,~...,CK said it was customary or the Second Mile to call kids once a week to see how kids are doing. advised she had a daughter in Second Mile and they
also asked 5 she should alia which he replied "NO." SEASOCK advised_there couldn't discuss with her.
to go with SANDUSkY to Were stut some "'gfay areas" that he
...... ___ stated that on May 11, 1998, at 3:45 p.rn., SANDUSKY called their
She stated she wasn't home but got the phone. d his mother that SANDUSKY asked him if he WS!$ out of town for the weekend and asked what time he got home. SANOUSKY also ask if he wanted to go to Altoona with him to a Second Mile dinner this told NO r. with him when SANDUSKY called and Reporting Officer talked to said. Reporting Officer spoke to Reporting Officer askad sai~ANOUSKY just aSked.
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1998, at 9:10 a.m., Reporting Officer contacted
Jv\.,,,,,..,,,r""og the' ongoing phone calls from SANDU
...)._.~-"T"'I:=--==-::::-:recent waS Mav 12. 1998, when SANOUSKY call on May 13, 1998, the
he would be there around 4:00 p.m. Mr9.~had Reporting Officer paged at which time it was agreed the
go. with SA Rlllnnrtil"M g~t 3.40 p.m., State College Ponce Dept. went to the ence
in anticipation of SANDUSKY stopping
p.rn .. to pick. up At 3:55 p.m., a call was received at the_rasidence, the caller LD. showed that the call originated from Penn State phone The caller was JERRY SANDUSKY. According to SANDUSKY asked if it was still OK to pick. up atad yes. At 4:05 p.m., JERRY SANOUS'KY knocked on the door invited SANDUSKY in, RALSTONwas hiding in the restroom and Reporting Officer was in &
bedroom of the 8partmeht. . - iho following Is a synopsis of the conversation: SANDUSKY: (S:) : $: How are you? Fine I drove out to the ball field last night to see_ The game was canceled JERRY aver since_went with you I,.st week he's been acting different. won', talk and he's been having nightmares $: _was really upbeat the last time I saw him .: Did anything happen? What did you do?
We worked out Oi~say something happened?
When I put in bed and kissed him on the head his hair was wet. NO RESPONSE FROM SANDUSKY • Did_take it shower?
00 you want me to ta'k to_
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No I ~on't want you caJling here need to thintt' fIIb'out thir, leFme okay to pick _ S' worked him too hard Did something happ f don't think s s: Do you want me to talk to_ (repeated) I don't think it is a good idea if I decide I will c;;I1Iyou 5: ~et him alone?
5: sorry. good-bye Several things were noted listening to the eonversation between SANDUSKY
(1) SANDUSKY was ve,.y upbeat talking loudly when he first sarrIV"",1't when he was men tioned to tofd_£otddn't go his vgige b.camA~w. in fact the look on his face Was that of "'8 lost puppy.·:.... (2) SANDUSKY didn't volunteer any information Example: • What did you do the night_went with you? S: Worked out ~ad to ask explicit questions - whether' took a shower that night because SANDUSKY didn't respond when_ said hair was wet. SANDUSKY also he took a shower until_asked and he
e_esidence. about the first time she was awarD that SANDUSKY had indicated tJ:Iat SANpUSKY had come to tho rear Of th-! 1'-',-:-_~;-~;--:--;.-:-,"""'"."':"~-:-:-~~d-:-;o:-o;-r8 .... What is odd that there is nothing on the rear of the ~
81 apartments. Mrs. ely 8:00 p.m., Reporting Offic8r was paged to call calling her she advised the following: was currently at heir residence and had mentioned that he talked to JERRY SANDUSKY at approximately 6:00 p.m. at Gill Field. SANDUSKY af)~ how tlttte league wa~dditional conversation. Y_Yhat oneerned_ c was that thiswas next to th(l field were~h8S littl~ league pfacUC'e. INVESTIGATION TO CONTINUE.
as concerned how he
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i,): ! ,.~" , On June 1, 1998, at 11 :00 a.m., Reporting Officer and JERRY LAURO (Program.....
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Representative) Office of Children, Youth and Families, Harrisburg. PA interviewed GERALD (JERRY) SANDUSKY at Lasch Building, UniV611'sity Park. as a result of an allegation of sexual abuse involving was as relata the activities that occurred on 5-03-98 at Lasch Building, specificallv what occurred in the shower. SANDUSKY that he rough the Second Mila Friends Program ahd that he did illvite go to the gym, that they worked out and that they did take a shower t . NDUSKY did state tha~e hugge~in the shower but that there Wi) t anythin9 se:ICualabout it. SANDUSKY did S!tY that he had showered with other boys in the past. SANDUSKY said since the incident happened he realized he used poor judgment in what he did. SANDUSKY appear~he fact he did anything that would but that he l!Ode[~d WhV_" mother was concerned about them being
As 8 resutt of the investigation it could not be determined that a sexual assault occurred and SANDUSKY was advised of such. LAURO also advised that he agreed with Reporting that no sexual