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3920Telecon With Gerald Warren and Kissinger at 3_35 P.M. 0000C59B

3920Telecon With Gerald Warren and Kissinger at 3_35 P.M. 0000C59B

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UNCLASSIFIED

TE LE CON Gerald Warren/Secretary November 24, 1973 3:35 pm
.

Kissinger

RELEASEDINFULL

K:

On that

story.

My worry

is if I call him.

said anything.

. .well,

first I never

W: Let me tell you what I said. We have no evidence that Secretary Kissinger's phone has ever been tapped. They have a denial also from your press office. but your associate stands by it.

..

K: Who is that?
W: Beats me. but if you told him you never made such a statement.

.

K: I could have said. now you know the plumbers weren't wax king for me. . or some other context. Saffire once called me up and said we now know your phone was tapped. . . My worry is if I call him up. . he can say. I have the Secretary call be and said. ..

.

.

.

.

W: But the point is they said you know your phone is tapped and we have no information it was tapped. That's where the strong language should come in. you are quoted as saying that you were virtually certain your phone was tapped in early 1969.

..

K: I have no way of knowing.

..

W: We have said there is no evidence your phone has ever been tapped. The damaging one is'whether . they attributed to you that you know. . .

K: There are various phones and it is that point, there could have been a number of associates who were certain. .. today, noone is sure and I don't think it was. . I just hate for the Secretary of State to call that son of a bitch.

.

W:

I hate I have

to see this get out with no challenge.
had my press office deny

K:

it.

What should

I do?
Rnd tell him

W: I think you should call the son of a bitch, excuse me. you never said that.

I am not 100 per cent sure I never said it to someone, but it would have to have been a goddamn close associate. that's my problem.
K:

.

W:

I suggest that

you say there

is no evidence

UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF STATE REVIEW AUTHORITY: ROBERT H MILLER DATE/CASE ID: 12 MAY 2004 200102979

UNCLASSIFIED

UNCLASSIFIED

-2K: But should I call.
W: It would be a hell of a lot stronger if you call.

K: Let me call Haig and see what he thinks, OK.
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UNCLASSIFIED

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