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This pistol is part of the final delivery of the so-called Kuba Pistolen to Hoffmann & Reinhardt of
Zrich. H.P. Doebeli, the first chronicler of the P210, applied the denomination of the Kuba
Modell to a batch of surplus P210-4, a part of the 1,500 pistols produced in advance by SIG
expecting orders from the German government following their 1951 delivery to the
Bundesgrenzschutz. When the German order failed to materialize, 1,417 of these pistols were sent to
Denmark as the third delivery of their m/49 military contract. (See Vetter, p. 69.) Originally
numbered as a continuation of the German BGS order between 5025 and 6441, the pistols redirected
to Denmark were renumbered by prefixes with the numeral 3, yielding the range 35025-36441. The
tail end of this production run, unclaimed by the Danes, and numbered between 6442 and 6500,
remained at first in Switzerland. Vetter shows SN 6491, the last P210 delivered to the Basel police,
and the final SN 6500, on p. 74. The gun in these pictures is numbered between these two. It bears
U.S. importer marks of Benet Arms, S.F. Cal.94-4079, applied around the magazine well. Kessler
Auktionen AG sold SN 6500 in excellent condition (Zustand: 1), as Lot 05501 for Sfr. 4500 on 27
August 2005, and SN 6455 in mint condition (Zustand: neuwertig), as Lot 834 for Sfr. 3000 on 23
February 2008.
Early Neuhausen pistols suffered from inadequate heat treatment of the slides. The Danish army shot
many kinds of 9mm ammo, including the Bofors M39B. This caused the slides to crack between the
opening for the loaded chamber indicator and the ejection port. In early Sixties, SIG delivered
unmarked replacement slides, but since they were already hardened, the numbers engraved by the
armorers were not as deep as the original roll marks on the frame. Armbrusters book shows on p.
137 one of the m/49 pistols, SN 35763, retrofitted with an upgraded slide for delivery to Denmark.
The external finish on this Kuba Pistole shows lots of tool marks typical for the P210-4.
Mechanically, the fit is as good as always. On this version of the P210-4, three dimples evidence
Rockwell test for hardness on the polished lower surface of the breechblock inside the slide. As is
normally the case with early production guns, the hammer action is numbered on the casing en suite
with the frame, slide, and barrel.

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Kuba Pistolen command high prices, owing to only 59 pieces ever having been made. As Vetter
notes in his account, their serial numbers duplicate those used in the earlier production run of
commercial SP47/8 pistols. This situation highlights the general difficulty of establishing delivery
dates for P210 pistols. Most commercial P210 deliveries came with a test target. In most cases, that
target noted its ammunition lot date. Many earlier targets also included the test date. For example, the
test target for the SIG P210-6 numbered P 64930 lists Munition as 23.5.60 and Datum as 7.
April 1970. These delivery dates are of critical interest under U.S. law, which exempts older firearms
from many regulations under the designation of Curios & Relics. C&R handguns are exempt from
the CA DOJ Certified Handgun Roster. As defined in Title 27, Code of Federal Regulations,
478.11, C&R firearms include all [f]irearms which were manufactured at least 50 years prior to the
current date, but not including replicas thereof. The same Title 27 C.F.R. 479.102, identifies the
firearm with its frame or receiver. Thus all pistols built on frames delivered by their makers at least
50 years ago, qualify as C&R under U.S. law. This pistol was assembled in 1951, but delivered in
1966, with its slide specially hardened in the interim. Depending on the interpretation of the cited
statutes, it may or may not qualify as a C&R firearm as of 2008.
The following chart correlates serial numbers with delivery dates and model designations. All
references are either to private communications (P), or to books by Doebeli (D), Vetter (V), and
Armbruster (A), as noted by page number.

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Serial Number[s]:

Date[s] of Delivery:

Model Designation & Special Features:

Reference & Page Number:

00

1948

m/49 Prototype

D 116

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00

1953

m/49 Prototype

D 117

000

1953

m/49 Prototype

V 147

001-500

1999

JP210 50 Years of the Army P 49

A 174-175

0001-16607

1948-51

m/49

V 146, 148, A 132

2120

1948-51

m/49

V 147

5022

1962

m/49

D 118

6001

1943

Petter-SIG Prototype

D 17, V 24

6002

1944

Petter-SIG Prototype

D 17

6003

1944

Petter-SIG Prototype

D 17

6004

1944

Petter-SIG Prototype

D 17, A 28-30

6005

1944

Petter-SIG Prototype

D 17

6006

1944

Petter-SIG Prototype

D 17

6007

1944/45

Petter-SIG Prototype

D 17, V 25, A 32-33

6008

1944

Petter-SIG Prototype

D 17

6009

1943

Petter-SIG Prototype

D 17, V 26, A 31

6010

circa 1943

Petter-SIG Prototype

D 17

6011

circa 1943

Original Petter Model

D 17, V 26, A 27

6012

1943

Petter-SIG Prototype

D 17, V 27

6013

1944-47

Original Petter Model

D 17

6014

1944-47

Original Petter Model

D 17

6015

1944-47

Original Petter Model

D 17

6016

1944-47

P44/15 SP44/15 Prototype

D 17, V 27, A 34

6017

1944

P44/15 SP44/15 Prototype

D 17, V 28

6018

1944-47

P44/15 SP44/16 Prototype

D 17, V 29

6019

1944-47

P44/15 SP44/16 Prototype

D 17

6020

1944-47

P44/15 SP44/16 Prototype

D 17, V 29

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6021

1944-47

P44/15 SP44/16 Prototype

D 17

6022

1944-47

P44/15 SP44/16 Prototype

D 17

6023

1944-47

P44/16 SP44/16 Prototype

D 17, V 30

6024

1944-47

P44/16 SP44/16 Prototype

D 17, V 31, A 35

6025

1944-47

P44/16 SP44/16 Prototype

D 17, V 31-32

6026

1938

Original Petter Model

D 17, V 32, A 10

6027

1938

Original Petter Model

D 17, V 33

6028

1947

SP47/8 SP47/8 First Issue

D 17, V 34, A 36

6033

1947

SP47/8

D 33

6035-6054

1947

SP47/8

A 39

6051

1947

SP47/8

V 38

6120

1947

SP47/8

V 39

6406

1947

SP47/8

V 39

6442-6461

1951-1966

P210-4

A 66

6451

1951

P210-4

D 121

6459

1947/48

P210-4

V 40

6464-6466

1951-1966

P210-4

A 66

6482

1947/48

P210-4

D 119, V 40

6491-6500

1951-1966

P210-4

A 66

6491

1951-1966

P210-4

V 69, 74

6500

1951-1966

P210-4

V 69, 74

6516

1947

SP47/8

D 35

6520

1947/48

SP 47/8

V 41

6540

1947/48

SP 47/8

V 41

6560

1947/48

SP47/8 KK

V118

6573

1947

SP47/8

D 36-37

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6591

1947/48

SP47/8

V 42

6592

1947/48

SP47/8

V 42

6593

1947

SP47/8

D 38, V 43

6738

1947

SP47/8

D 39-40

6840

1947

SP47/8

D 41-42

6863

1963

P210-5 Prototype

V 78

6864

1963

P210-5 Prototype

V 78

6865

1955

SP47/8 Sport

A 72-73

6872

1951

SP47/8 KK

V118

6920

1947

P210-6

D 45-46

7005

1949-1952

SP47/8

V 46

7014

1949-1952

SP47/8

V 46

7015

1947/48

SP47/8

D 47

7020

1948/49

SP47/8 KK

V 119

7021

1948/49

SP47/8 KK

V 119

7024

1948/49

SP47/8 KK

V 120

7026

1948/49

SP47/8 KK

D 48, V 120

7027

1948/49

SP47/8 KK

V 121

7029

1948/49

SP47/8 KK

V 121

7695

1948/51

m/49

V 148

15637

1951

m/49

V 148

16608-25513

1953/54

m/49

V 146, 149, A 132

16637

1953

m/49

V 149

20704

1954

m/49

V 150

35025-36441

1962

m/49

V 146, 150, A 132

35383

1962

m/49

V 150

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40501

1957/58

P210-7

V 123

41762

1968

P210-7

V 124

A 100001

1949

P49

V 130

A 100672

1949

P49

V 130

A 101231

1949

P49

V 131

A 104214

1950/51

P49

V 131

A 166501

1969

P49

V 136

A 172385

1972

P49

D 127

A 204685

1985

P49 Shooting Prize

V 137

A 212913

1985

P49 Shooting Prize

D 129

D 0001-5000

from 1951

P210-4

V 69, A 62-63

D 0031

1951

P210-4

V 70

D 0063

1951

P210-4

V 71

D 4156

1951/52

P210-4

V 71

D 5001-5020

1955

P210-4

V 69, A 63

D 6001-6500

1995-2001

P210-4

V 76, A 67, 69

D 6002

1995-2001

P210-4

V 76, A 67

D 6362

1995-2001

P210-4 50 Years of BGS

A 69

HT 6925-6951

1983

P210-4

V 75

HT 6950

1983

P210-4

V 75

JP 001-500

1978

JP210 125 Years of SIG

V 159

JP 029

1978

JP210 125 Years of SIG

A 160-161

JP 164

1978

JP210 125 Years of SIG

D 102

JP 178

1978

JP210 125 Years of SIG

V 160

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0001-1991

1991

JP210 700 Years of Swiss Confederation

A 165-167

0178

1991

JP210 700 Years of Swiss Confederation

V 163

P 6865

1955

SP47/8 Target

A 73-75

P 6920

1953

SP47/8 Target

V 94-95

P 6924

1953/54

SP47/8 Target

V 95

P 8003

1951

P 210-3

V 64

P 8001-8250

1951

P210-3

D 52, A 59-61

P 8015

1950

P210-3

D 50

P 8139

1951

P210-3

V 65

P 8238

1959

P210-3

D 51

P 8262

1951

P210-3

V 65

P 8826

1949

P210-3

D 52

P 8874-8893

1965

P210-3

D 52

P 50004

1949/50

P210-1

V 50

P 50091

1949

P210-1

D 54

P 50167

1950

P210-1

D 57

P 50249

1949/50

P210-1

V 51

P 50274

1949

P210-1

D 58

P 50283

1950/54

P210-6

V 96

P 50355

1952/53

SP47/8 KK

V 122

P 50897

1950

P210-4

V 70

P 50935

1950

P210-2 S Delivery

V 58

P 51619

1951/52

P210-1

V 51

P 51787

1951/52

P210-1

V 52

P 52221

1967

P210-5 Prototype

D 77, V 79

P 52222

1967

P210-5 Prototype

D 75, 79, V 77, 79

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P 52224

1967

P210-5 Prototype

V 80

P 52240

1967

P210-5

D 75, V 79-80

P 52713

1952

P210-2

D 59

P 52784

1965

P210-2 S-Delivery

D 124

P 53148

1952

P210-1

D 60-61

P 53226

1953

SP47/8 Sport

V 81

P 53412

1953

P210-2

V 59

P 54180

circa 1953

SP47/8 Target

D 61-62

P 54460

1952/53

P210-1

V 52

P 54581

1953

P210-1

V 53

P 54961

1967

P210-5

V 81

P 55016

1954/55

P210-1

V 53

P 56046

1963

P210-2 Shooting Prize

V 138

P 56503

1954/55

P210-1

V 54

P 56845

1960s

P210-5 NM

A 84

P 56846

1965

P210-5 NM

V 82

P 56890

1960s

P210-5 NM

A 82, 84

P 56933

1960s

P210-5 NM

A 83

P 57271

1965

P210-2 Shooting Prize

V 138

P 57764

1965-67

P210-5 .38 Special

V 83, A 145-150

P 57767

1958

P210-2 Stamped Slide

A 151-155

P 57768

1958

P210-2 Stamped Slide

D 123

P 58143

1955

P210-1

D 63

P 58931-58940

1966

P210-5 NM

D 73-75

P 58933

1966

P210-5 NM

D 73-75

P 59691-59700

1961/62

P210-S Swedish Trial

D 125, A142-144

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P 59691

1961/62

P210-S Swedish Trial

A 142-144

P 59693

1961/62

P210-S Swedish Trial

D 125

P 59706

1967

P210-5 HF

V 84

P 60358

1968/69

P210-5 de Luxe

V 153

P 60412

1956-58

P210-1

V 54

P 60431-60448

1969

P210-5 NM

D 74-75

P 60432

1969

P210-5 NM

A 83

P 60433

1969

P210-5 NM

A 86

P 60437

1969

P210-5 NM

A 84

P 60442

1969

P210-5 NM

V 85

P 60448

1968

P210-5 NM

D 76

P 60450

1969

P210-5 HF

V 85

P 60881

1969-1971

P210-5

V 86

P 64930

1970

P210-6

P 66385

1972

P210-5

V 86

P 66574

circa 1970

P210-2

D 68

P 67148

1969/70

P210-2

V 60

P 68649

1972

P210-5

P 68990

1969/70

P210-1

V 55

P 69769

1971

P210-L

V 154

P 70100

1970/71

P210-L

V 155

P 73351-73400

1974

P210-6

A 102-103

P 73616

1972/73

P210-1

V 55

P 76267

1969/70

P210-3

V 66

P 76521-76620

1979

P210-6

D 75

P 76544

1979

P210-6 HF

V 99

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P 76588

1979

P210-HF

D 81

P 77744

1977

P210-L

V 156

P 78497

1975

P210-2

D 69

P 79101-79125

1975

P210-6 HF

D 74-75, A 97-98

P 79102

1975

P210-6 HF

D 83

P 79103

1975

P210-6 HF

P 79115

1975

P210-6 HF

V 100

P 79126-79150

1975

P210-6 HF

D 75, A 97-100

P 79136

1975

P210-6 HF

P 79600-79700

1979

P210-6

D 75

P 79651

1979

P210-6 HF

V 100

P 79667

1979

P210-6 HF

D 82

P 79900-79950

1976

P210-3

D 70

P 79931

1976

P210-3

D 70

P 79931-79350

1976

P210-3

D 70, A 59-61

P 79937

1976

P210-3

V 66

P 79938

1976

P210-3

V 67, A 61

P 79946

1976

P210-3

V 67

P 80083

1976/77

P210-2

V 60

P 81053

1977

P210-3

V 68

P 81422

1990

P210-6 KK Shooting Prize

V 139

P 84300

1978

P210-5

D 73

P 89107

1978

P210-6

D 84

P 92698

1982

P210-L

P 96651

1976

P210-3

V 63

P 96651

1983/84

P210-6

V 101

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P 97250

1983/84

P210-2

V 61

P 97350

1983

P210-5

V 89

P 97550

1983

P210-5

V 89

P 97901-97950

1984

P210-5 180mm

V 90

P 300001

1983/84

P210-6

V 102

P 300700

1984

P210-6

V 102

P 300850

1983/84

P210-2

V 62

P 301706

1986/87

P210-2

V 62

P 305101-305150

1988

P210-5 180mm

V 90

P 305715

1988

P210-5 180mm

V 90

P 305979

1988

P210-2 Shooting Prize

V 139

P 306201-306250

1985/86

P210-5

V 91

P 306301-306400

1985/86

P210-5 180mm

V 91

P 306501-306600

1985/86

P210-5 180mm

V 91

P 306600

1988

P210-5

V 103

P 306751-306850

1985/86

P210-5

V 91

P 309521-309570

1987-90

P210-5 HF

V 91

P 309555

1987-90

P210-5 HF 180mm

V 92

P 310001-310999

1986

JP210 600 Years of Battle at Sempach

A 162-163

P 310178

1986

JP210 600 Years of Battle at Sempach

V 165

P 312700-2

1992

P210-5

V 92

P 314514-2

1993

P210-5 HF

V 93

P 315850

1995

P210-5 HF

V 93

P 316550

1995

P210-6 HF

V 106

P 325723-325725

2006

P210-6 HF

P 331065-331067

2006

P210-6 S

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P 331536

2006

P210-5 LS

A 93-94

P 555001

1986/87

P210-6 Von Bank

V 158

Abbreviations:
HF Heavy Frame
JP Jubilumspistole = Jubilee Pistol
KK Kleinkaliber (.22 Long Rifle)
L Luxus = Deluxe (engraved model)
S Sport, HF, side mag button
LS Long Slide Sport, HF, side mag button
NM Nationalmannschafts-Modell = National Match Model
References:
H.P. Doebeli, Die SIG Pistolen, Motorbuch Verlag, 1981, ISBN 3-87943-739-4
Lorenz Vetter, Das grosse Buch der SIG-Pistolen, Motorbuch Verlag/Verlag Stocker-Schmid, 1995,
ISBN 3-7276-7123-8
Erwin Armbruster & Werner Kessler, Begegnungen mit einer Legende SIG SP 47/8 / P 210,
Kessler Waffen AG, 2007
The author thanks Paul Kmin for his kind contributions of information incorporated in this
article. If you own a SIG P210 with a test target that indicates the date of its shooting, please send its
copy to the author as an email attachment, for incorporation into this list.
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komt niet voor in uw lijst het nummer is p64384 weet uw meer vriendelijke groeten fer
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