@BonnieAdamson: TOPIC: It's 9/11.

Let's talk about what kid's books can do to preserve and illuminate events for future generations. #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 1:00 am

@kidlitchat: TOPIC: It's 9/11. Let's talk about what kid's books can do to preserve and illuminate events for future generations. #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 1:00 am

@gregpincus: TOPIC: It's 9/11. Let's talk about what kid's books can do to preserve and illuminate events for future generations. #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 1:00 am

@lisabrowndraws: Best children's book about 9/11: Fireboat by Maira Kalman. #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 1:01 am

@BonnieAdamson: @lisabrowndraws There's also the subtle tribute of THE MAN WHO WALKED BETWEEN THE TOWERS. #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 1:04 am

@gregpincus: It's interesting to me to know a youngster who loves world war 1 and 2 books. There's a lot of good fiction there.... #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 1:04 am

@BonnieAdamson: @gregpincus I went through a Civil War phase at 11 or 12-ish-possibly due to preference for biography. Anything "real." #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 1:05 am

@gregpincus: What's interesting to me is how those historical events can inform a story, even if not mentioned explicitly. #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 1:06 am

@BeyondJackJill: Also important after 9/11, books like "Same Same But Different" by J. Kostecki-Shaw that shows we are more alike than different #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 1:07 am

@NikiOhsBarnes: RT @lisabrowndraws: Best children's book about 9/11: Fireboat by Maira Kalman. #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 1:07 am

@BonnieAdamson: @gregpincus Which presumes a responsibility to interpret with care. #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 1:07 am

@gregpincus: @BonnieAdamson Yes. Both interpret and respond to, I think. #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 1:08 am

@BonnieAdamson: How long does it take for an event to become a metaphor? For Anne Frank to become Book Thief? #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 1:10 am

@BeyondJackJill: The "Captured History" series is also excellent for middle grade kids to learn about history with a lot of photos to captivate. #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 1:12 am

@gregpincus: @BonnieAdamson 7 weeks, 4 days, and 32 minutes, I think. Or maybe longer :-) #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 1:13 am

@BonnieAdamson: @gregpincus :-D #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 1:14 am

@dianezahler: Was anyone else obsessed with the "We Were There" series lo these many years ago? http://t.co/GhukhHRk #kidlitchat

September 12, 2012, 1:14 am

@BonnieAdamson: @dianezahler I remember those! #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 1:15 am

@gregpincus: @BeyondJackJill Photos are always interesting to me. Not necessarily in novels, though! #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 1:16 am

@gregpincus: @dianezahler I'd like to combine those with "Choose your own adventure" books :-) #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 1:16 am

@dianezahler: @BonnieAdamson Loved them. I must have read most of them. Interesting to see some big names attached to them! #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 1:17 am

@BonnieAdamson: @dianezahler I also loved "eye witness" fantasy: Ben and Me and the one told by Paul Revere's horse . . . #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 1:18 am

@dianezahler: @dianezahler They're partly why I majored in history -- those and the biography series -- George Washington Boy President etc #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 1:19 am

@kjerstanavige: @BonnieAdamson @dianezahler I loved diary-style books as a kid. Historical events were more real seen from that level. #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 1:22 am

@BonnieAdamson: @dianezahler So--do we relegate history to nonfiction only, or are there less obvious ways to interpret events via fiction? #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 1:22 am

@JeanGiardina: Joining for just a few minutes. Couldn't pass up this great topic. #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 1:23 am

@kjerstanavige: Important when covering 9/11 and other tragedies in fiction to include humor/light moments. It's too sad on its own. #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 1:24 am

@gregpincus: @BonnieAdamson I think there are tons of ways to interpret events in fiction. #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 1:24 am

@gregpincus: And I think the events of the world inform most stories, even if subtly. What characters can bring on a plane, for example.... #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 1:24 am

@dianezahler: @BonnieAdamson I do hope so, b/c I'm working on a historical MG novel. When I started it, I was told that "history was dead." #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 1:25 am

@BonnieAdamson: @dianezahler yikes. I have a historical MG in the waiting-to-berevised drawer right now. :-) #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 1:26 am

@JeanGiardina: My son loved Schmidt's OKAY FOR NOW and how it addressed the Vietnam vet issues. He immediately connected to current vet issues. #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 1:26 am

@WendyMartinArt: @BonnieAdamson I luv historical fiction stories. sum of them R vry well researched, sum R not. I think they all shld B. #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 1:26 am

@dianezahler: @BonnieAdamson This was 4 books ago. History has lived, died, and lives again since then. #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 1:26 am

@BonnieAdamson: @WendyMartinArt Agreed. That's a definite responsibility. #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 1:27 am

@kjerstanavige: @dianezahler Not sure about middle-grade, but YA hist fic is popular right now -- "Bright Young Things," steampunk, etc. #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 1:27 am

@WendyMartinArt: @BonnieAdamson It also makes the story more interesting #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 1:27 am

@dianezahler: @kjerstanavige I wouldn't classify steampunk as history. Historish maybe. But JDonnelly's Revolution was great. #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 1:28 am

@kjerstanavige: @JeanGiardina Same with Schmidt's Wednesday Wars. Fantastic at keeping Vietnam on the periphery but still important. #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 1:28 am

@kjerstanavige: @dianezahler Oh, for sure -- I see it as the transition between paranormal and historical fic. #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 1:29 am

@coachhays64: @BonnieAdamson @dianezahler There are many viewpoints to historical events for use as fiction fuel. Stay true to facts and go! #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 1:29 am

@JeanGiardina: @kjerstanavige Agree. It's so important to help kids make connections

between past and present events. #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 1:30 am

@BonnieAdamson: @kjerstanavige That fascinates me: Vietnam was such a cultural upheaval--the sense of frustration & distrust still resonates. #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 1:31 am

@coachhays64: @WendyMartinArt @BonnieAdamson My favorite part of writing historical fiction is the research. So much to learn, so little time. #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 1:32 am

@delzey: pismo beach & all the clams you can eat! er, um... i'm late, what's shakin' at #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 1:33 am

@WendyMartinArt: @coachhays64 Sometimes I just do the research and never write anything. #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 1:34 am

@dianezahler: @coachhays64: @WendyMartinArt @BonnieAdamson Especially when you can sneak travel into the research... #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 1:34 am

@BonnieAdamson: @delzey how kid's books inform & illuminate events (like 9/11) #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 1:34 am

@delzey: @BonnieAdamson thanks!n #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 1:35 am

@WendyMartinArt: That is the best -> @dianezahler @coachhays64 @BonnieAdamson Especially when you can sneak travel into the research... #kidlitchat

September 12, 2012, 1:36 am

@delzey: out of curiosity, has anyone touched on when/if there's a proper distance for historical perspective? #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 1:36 am

@LaurelSnyder: One thing that's hard about historical is that people can bring preset emotions to a book, based on where/when its set. #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 1:36 am

@kjerstanavige: @BonnieAdamson Especially interesting from a kid's/teen's POV -they may not understand politics but understand the emotions. #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 1:37 am

@JeanGiardina: @coachhays64 Research is always the best part. Throw it on the compost pile and see what grows. #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 1:37 am

@BonnieAdamson: @delzey not directly. :-) #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 1:37 am

@kjerstanavige: RT @JeanGiardina: @coachhays64 Research is always the best part. Throw it on the compost pile and see what grows. #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 1:37 am

@coachhays64: @WendyMartinArt I am reading fascinating and sad 1st person accounts of the Sultana sinking for a MG project. Heart wrenching. #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 1:38 am

@BonnieAdamson: @kjerstanavige And what we take away changes with time--my gen. focused on betrayal; now it's more about embracing cultures. #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 1:38 am

@delzey: @BonnieAdamson i'm thinking about the 70s/black panther "history" in ONE CRAZY SUMMER, so, no. fiction can include history #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 1:38 am

@deegarretson: Hi all, I am reading a journal written by a German girl during World War 1, just got it in the mail today, fascinating, #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 1:39 am

@delzey: in some ways historical perspective is like POV, no? the closer we/character is to events the less reliable the narrative #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 1:40 am

@BonnieAdamson: @delzey I have convos w/librarian daughter abt how even methods of research are politically motivated. #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 1:40 am

@WendyMartinArt: @coachhays64 Sounds interesting. I'm reading "Inside Out & Back Again." It's in verse, which I usually dont lk, so well written #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 1:41 am

@delzey: @BonnieAdamson like documentaries, there's always an agenda, even if subconsciously in the editing #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 1:41 am

@coachhays64: @delzey Yes, do you think it's harder to define a proper historical perspective distance when writing for a young audience? #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 1:42 am

@dianezahler: There's less perspective, anyway MT @delzey: the closer we/character is to events the less reliable the narrative #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 1:43 am

@JeanGiardina: @WendyMartinArt I loved INSIDE OUT & BACK AGAIN. Thought that the use of verse made it more impactful. @coachhays64 #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 1:43 am

@BonnieAdamson: @delzey exactly--she deals with this all the time--how to anticipate search parameters for future researchers. #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 1:43 am

@kjerstanavige: @BonnieAdamson And my generation's about not trusting authority and/or believing mainstream media. Endless variations. #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 1:43 am

@gregpincus: @WendyMartinArt Via 30 Poets/30 Days, Thanhha Lai shared a poem that was edited out of Inside Out: http://t.co/K0ldlwaj #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 1:43 am

@WendyMartinArt: @JeanGiardina I can't believe the amount of depth in the storytelling in such sparse word count #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 1:44 am

@JeanGiardina: @delzey @BonnieAdamson I think that writing fiction is about having a POV. A story is an argument made and debated. #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 1:44 am

@delzey: @coachhays64 i think it's hard to do for myself! i'm writing something set during times i lived thru & the research is i-opening #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 1:45 am

@BonnieAdamson: @kjerstanavige Which is a case for the truest interpretation coming out of fiction. All the emotional facets can be explored. #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 1:45 am

@delzey: @JeanGiardina so then does adding historical events to mix make it less...

reliable? authentic? #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 1:46 am

@dianezahler: I found that in Out of the Dust too -- also historical, also verse @WendyMartinArt: @JeanGiardina #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 1:46 am

@WendyMartinArt: @dianezahler I'll have to see if our library has that #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 1:47 am

@BonnieAdamson: @delzey The truest interpretations of history are those that focus on one character's experience. Everything is personal. #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 1:48 am

@BonnieAdamson: @dianezahler Oh, wow--that is one harrowing novel. (Out of the Dust). Very powerful. #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 1:49 am

@delzey: @BonnieAdamson funny, i was just thinking about reading ANNE FRANK 35+ yrs ago and how it felt like something was missing... #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 1:50 am

@JeanGiardina: @delzey IMHO - More. Done in the right way, I think it adds terra firma, a reference place from which to make the argument. #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 1:50 am

@delzey: @BonnieAdamson ... turns out her diary was edited, & we were clubbed over the head w the history over the personal #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 1:51 am

@deegarretson: @delzey I'm not surprised it was edited. A 15-year-old would spend most of the time on the personal #kidlitchat

September 12, 2012, 1:52 am

@JeanGiardina: @delzey @BonnieAdamson On my 13yo's LA/Lit reading list for this year. I'm going to need to look into this. #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 1:52 am

@dianezahler: @delzey: @BonnieAdamson Edited by her dad tho, right? Which makes it personal in a very different way. #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 1:54 am

@BonnieAdamson: @delzey"Facts" shift with political & cultural climate. But emotion never changes: claustrophobia, vulnerability are universal. #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 1:54 am

@deegarretson: @delzey in journal I'm reading now, 12yrold writes that she thinks the assassin of the archduke is the more handsome of the two! #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 1:54 am

@delzey: @deegarretson her father took out "unnecessary" parts, left us an historical record w/o heart of a girl at its core #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 1:55 am

@delzey: @BonnieAdamson i don't think her diary was edited for politcal/cultural reasons, unless girly stuff is cultural #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 1:57 am

@delzey: @deegarretson is the assassin a "bad boy?"n #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 1:59 am

@dianezahler: @delzey @deegarretson I just looked them up on google images. The assassin is cuter. But the duke has a better mustache. #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 2:00 am

@deegarretson: @delzey she just saw his picture in the newspaper and felt sorry for him #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 2:00 am

@BonnieAdamson: @delzey True. But it's like drawing a chart. You can manipulate raw data when reporting an event. Emotion is a truer record. #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 2:01 am

@deegarretson: @dianezahler LOL! maybe the girl didn't like mustaches. I'm not crazy about them myself #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 2:01 am

@JeanGiardina: #kidlitchat Historical Fiction Pet Peeve: when historical fiction jumps the shark. Case in Point: the Lincoln Vampire Hunter non-sense.
September 12, 2012, 2:02 am

@dianezahler: @deegarretson They both had them. It was the style. But the duke's was a handlebar. Waxed, probably! #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 2:02 am

@delzey: @BonnieAdamson but manipulating raw data & emotion clouded the "truth" in recent history #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 2:03 am

@coachhays64: RT @JeanGiardina: #kidlitchat Historical Fiction Pet Peeve: when historical fiction jumps the shark. Case in Point: the Lincoln Vampire ...
September 12, 2012, 2:03 am

@BonnieAdamson: @delzey So we're back to your "distance" question . . . #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 2:04 am

@delzey: @JeanGiardina is that really historical fiction, or alternative universe genre fantasy? i'd think HF would be equal parts h & f #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 2:04 am

@kjerstanavige: @delzey As they say, "The victors wrote the history books." Have to take it ALL with a grain of salt, regardless of data/facts. #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 2:05 am

@JeanGiardina: @delzey Agree. But I had several conversations with my kids. "No. He didn't hunt vampires." Adults understand. Kids not so much. #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 2:06 am

@dianezahler: @JeanGiardina @deegarretson Your hero could be the cleanshaven outcast. #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 2:07 am

@JeanGiardina: @dianezahler @deegarretson Oooohhh. I think you just wrote my pitch! #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 2:08 am

@delzey: @JeanGiardina ABE LINCOLN: VAMP HUNTER was aimed at adult audience... and its shelved in sci-fi #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 2:09 am

@gregpincus: G'night all y'all #kidlitchat folks. Join us next week when we'll be talking school visits!
September 12, 2012, 2:09 am

@JeanGiardina: Got to go put little humans to bed. Thanks for the great conversation. #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 2:10 am

@deegarretson: @JeanGiardina I did read an alternative universe MG about Einstein,

and wondered if kids would be able to tell what was true/not #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 2:10 am

@BonnieAdamson: Thank you for the conversation tonight. See you next time for a chat on school visits. Till then, rock on. :-) #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 2:12 am

@JeanGiardina: @deegarretson That's what I mean. Sometimes hard for adults to tell what's real. Especially so for kids. #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 2:12 am

@JeanGiardina: @deegarretson That said, Lincoln was clearly not a vampire hunter. Just used it as an example. He hunted zombies. #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 2:13 am

@delzey: @JeanGiardina sounds like a whole new topic: does historical fantasy dilute the value & weight of historical fiction? #kidlitchat
September 12, 2012, 2:13 am

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