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vāñchā-kalpa-tarubyaś ca kṛpā-sindhubhya eva ca patitānāṁ pāvanebhyo vaiṣṇavebhyo namo namaḥ
[I offer praṇāmas unto the Vaiṣṇavas, who are just like wish-fulfilling desire trees, who are an ocean of mercy, and who deliver the fallen, conditioned souls. Śrī Vaiṣṇava vandanā]

namo mahā-vadānyāya Kṛṣṇa-prema-pradāya te kṛṣṇāya Kṛṣṇa-caitanya-nāmne gaura-tviṣe namaḥ
[I offer praṇāma unto Śrī Kṛṣṇa-Caitanya, who is Śrī Kṛṣṇa Himself. Having assumed the golden hue of Śrīmatī Rādhikā, He is munificently bestowing Kṛṣṇa-prema, the rarest of all gifts. Śrīman Mahāprabhu vandanā]

gurave gauracandrāya rādhikāyai tadālaye kṛṣṇāya Kṛṣṇa-bhaktāya tad-bhaktāya namo namaḥ
[I offer my obeisances time and again unto Śrī Guru, Śrī Gauracandra, Śrīmatī Rādhikā, Her associates and Her abode Śrī Vāndāvana Dhāma, and unto Śrī Kṛṣṇa and all of His devotees. Śrī Ślokāmṛitam (Maṅgalācaraṇa)]

yaṁ pravrajantam anupetam apeta-kṛtyaṁ dvaipāyano viraha-kātara ājuhāva putreti tan-mayatayā taravo ‘bhinedus taṁ sarva-bhūta-hṛdayaṁ munim ānato ‘smi
[I offer praṇāma to Śrī Śukadeva Gosvāmī, who can enter the hearts of all people. When he left home without undergoing the purificatory processes such as accept- ing the sacred thread, his father Vyāsa cried out, “O my son!” As if they were absorbed in that same feeling of separation, the trees echoed in response to his call. Śrīmad Bhāgavatam (1.2.2)]

tavaivāsmi tavaivāsmi na jīvāmi tvayā vinā iti vijñāya devi (radhe) tvaṁ naya māṁ caraṇāntikam
[I am Yours! I am Yours! I cannot exist without You! O Devi (Rādhikā), please understand this and bring me to Your lotus feet. Śrī Stavāvali, Vilāpa-kusumāñjali 96, Raghunātha dāsa Gosvāmī]

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Śrīla Gurudeva: My humble obeisances unto the lotus feet of my transcendental guru, oṁ viṣṇupāda aṣṭottara-śata Śrī Śrīmad Bhakti Prajñāna Keśava Gosvāmī Mahārāja. And also in the lotus feet of my śikṣā-guru, oṁ viṣṇupāda Śrī Śrīmad Bhaktivedānta Swami Mahārāja. (pointing to a devotee) You, yourself, you told: nirviśeṣa-śūnyavādi-pāścātya-deśa-tāriṇe Śrīla Gurudeva: Uh? More? What is the meaning? Stand up. What is nirviśeṣvāda and then śūnyavādi? Padmanābha Mahārāja:
ajñāna-timirāndhasya jñānāñjana-śalākayā caksur unmīlitaṁ yena tasmai śrī gurave namaḥ
[O Gurudeva, you are so merciful. I offer my humble praṇāma to you and am praying from the core of my heart that, with the torchlight of divine knowledge, you open my eyes which have been blinded by the darkness of ignorance. Śrī Guru praṇāma]

Śrīla Prabhupāda has given us this mantra which describes his mission. To... Śrīla Gurudeva: Who gave this mantra, Prabhupāda? Padmanābha Mahārāja: Yes. Śrīla Gurudeva: Himself he has... Padmanābha Mahārāja: Yes, himself he has written. (Laughter and discussion amongst audience about where this mantra originated.) No? You have given? Śrīla Gurudeva: Any of his most beloved disciples may have given. Anyone can not praise himself – never and never. Padmanābha Mahārāja: (More discussion) Did he give? (Pradyumna prabhu) I think he gave the idea though. Śrīla Gurudeva: I know that he may have inspired his disciples, but he can not glorify himself. Padmanābha Mahārāja: No. Śrīla Gurudeva: So, it is glorification of gurudeva. Padmanābha Mahārāja: He gave the idea. Śrīla Gurudeva: He gave the idea then anyone inspired by him, with his words, anyone has (done this). Padmanābha Mahārāja: And this describes his mission, particularly (to the) Western world, as the translation was given. And he is delivering these Western countries, delivering them, āścātya, and deśa, these countries, from nirviśeṣa and śūnyavādi. And nirviśeṣa means Māyāvāda, or impersonalism, and śūnya, which means "zero" or nothingness, is the idea of Buddhism... Śrīla Gurudeva: What is nirviśeṣvāda? I want to know.

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Padmanābha Mahārāja: Nirviśeṣvāda is the philosophy of advaita vedanta. The idea of Saṅkarācārya that the absolute truth is without qualities, without form, (indistinct-līlā) and that this is the highest aspect of Brahman. Śrīla Gurudeva: What? Again. Again, again clearly. Padmanābha Mahārāja: Nirviśeṣa is the concept that the highest aspect of the Absolute Truth is His impersonal or featureless, impersonal feature. Without form, name, qualities, or activities personality – nirguṇa Brahman and this is... Śrīla Gurudeva: Has he given any quotation from any Vedas or Upaniṣads? Saṅkarācārya? Padmanābha Mahārāja: Saṅkarācārya? He has given prominence to some side mantras like: tat
tvam asi, thou art that, or ahaṁ brahmāsmi. And he has given an interpretation on those which is not in accordance with the whole picture of vedanta given by Vyāsadeva and also by Bhagavad-gītā.

Śrīla Gurudeva: (indicating a different devotee) Can you explain more? Dāmodara Mahārāja: So, here is the praṇāma mantra to Śrīla Bhaktivedānta Swami Mahārāja:
namas te sārasvate deve gaura-vāṇī-pracāriṇe nirviśeṣa-śūnyavādi-pāścātya-deśa-tāriṇe
[Our respectful obeisances unto you, O servant of Sarasvatī Gosvāmī. You are kindly preaching the message of Gaurasundara and delivering the Western countries which are filled with impersonalism and voidism.]

So, namas te, we are giving obeisances to who? sārasvate deve. He is a servant of Śrīla Bhaktisiddhānta Sarasvatī Ṭhākura; and he is doing only one thing: gaura-vāṇī-pracāriṇe – throughout the world he is preaching the messages and precepts of Śrī Gaurāṅgadeva. Nirviśeṣa-śūnyavādi: So, there are two enemies of bhakti: one is nirviśeṣa and one is śūnyavāda. So, not so much difference:
māyāvādam asac-chāstraṁ pracchannaṁ bauddham ucyate mayaiva vihitaṁ devi kalau brāhmaṇa-mūrtinā
[“[Lord Śiva informed goddess Durgā, the superintendent of the material world:] ‘In the Age of Kali I take the form of a brāhmaṇa and explain the Vedas through false scriptures in an atheistic way, similar to Buddhist philosophy.’ ” CC Madhya (6.182)]

That śūnyavādi, or Buddhism, is also like Māyāvādī, not so much difference. Only that Buddhism is covered Māyāvāda based on asac-chāstraṁ. So, nirviśeṣa means that... Śrīla Gurudeva: What are the specialities of nirviśeṣvāda? Why you don't want? Devotee: So, nirviśeṣa... Śrīla Gurudeva: What (does) śūnyavādi or nirviśeṣvādi tell?

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Devotee: So, nir means "without" viśeṣ means "specialities." So, that means the Supreme Absolute Truth is nirguṇa, nirśakti, nirākāra – like this. The Supreme Absolute Truth has no name, no form, no qualities, no śakti, no power, no beauty – like this. This is nirviśeṣa. So, the vaiṣṇava ācāryas have rejected this because it's described like covered atheism. Because those people who say that Bhagavān has no shape, no form, no qualities – they are atheistic and they are offenders to those who are Nārāyaṇa, His devotees. So, śūnyavāda is a bit like this. It's a covered form of māyāvādī. Just like Buddhism, preached by Buddha, he said, "Oh! The ultimate goal is zero." And Saṅkarācārya is saying the ultimate goal is nirviśeṣa-brahman. So, like zero. The Buddhist they merge into the virage. But the Nirviśeṣavādīs they merge into the body of the Lord Himself. Śrīla Gurudeva: Thank you. Can you (speak) more? Devotee: When Śrīla Prabhupāda came to the Western countries, as well as in India, the most popular philosophy that was being propagated, as so many other yogis have come to the Western countries, was that, "I will give you some mantra and you give me some money and within so many weeks you will become God. I am God. You are God. Everyone is God." So, that is the most predominant feature of Māyāvāda philosophy that Śrīla Prabhupāda was trying to defeat, or eradicate, in the Western world. Śrīla Gurudeva: And? More? That God has no...? Devotee: Has no form, has no features, has no attributes... Śrīla Gurudeva: No activity, no power. He can do nothing. So, Caitanya Mahāprabhu told: what is the use of that negative Brahma? Who can not have a form, who can not do anything, who can not hear our prayers. No use – bogus Brahma. So, He rejected. So, Jīva Gosvāmī rejected all these ideas. tat tvam asi – "Oh, you are (that) same Brahma." ahaṁ brahmāsmi- "I am same Brahma. All are, even grasses, are same Brahma." But he could not answer that, "Why all are here?" Or, "If all are Brahma then why they are repenting, weeping, and suffering. Why (are) they (suffering)? And for whom? If all are Brahma, for whom who you are teaching? Saṅkarācārya was, whether he was liberated or not. If he was liberated and Brahma then he could not speak; and if he was speaking something to others, then what he was? He was not liberated, he was conditioned soul. So, we don't want to hear his (teachings) because (there is nothing for us) there. So, Mahāprabhu rejected all these things. From where this Brahma came? From where it came? So, Mahāprabhu told all these things, cut the arguments of Sārvabhauma Bhaṭṭācārya – everything – from Vedas, Upaniṣads and everything. So, Śrīla Bhaktivedānta Swami Mahārāja, my śikṣā-guru, also cut the arguments of nirviśeṣavādī. Now in this world, almost all, except vaiṣṇavas, all are māyāvādī, śūnyavādi. So, he helped them to give up their wrong idea, to come to vaiṣṇavism and you should chant:
Hare Kṛṣṇa, Hare Kṛṣṇa, Kṛṣṇa Kṛṣṇa, Hare Hare/ Hare Rāma, Hare Rāma, Rāma Rāma, Hare Hare

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Come with me to Purī, Jagannātha Purī, near Caitanya Mahāprabhu and Haridāsa Ṭhākur. Oh Caitanya Mahāprabhu, His pastimes are more deep than (the) ocean, or anything (else). Having so many meanings, very deep meanings, even more deep than koṭī-koṭī, lakhs and lakhs, thousands and thousands of oceans. For what thing, how he is telling, what he is telling, any general person, common person cannot (understand). Even high class of devotees, even they cannot realize. One day Haridāsa Ṭhākur was there and Caitanya Mahāprabhu was asking him, "Oh, Haridāsa Ṭhākur in this world, there are so many, the world is full of Mohammedans, muslims, and they want to control (the) whole world and to make all (people) Muslims by the help of sword or any how. Those who are not Muslims, they tell them, kafir; kafir means he is against God, so cut them otherwise anyhow by (hook or) crook you should make them Muslims." So, still their policy is there. They don't give honor to other religions. (reference to outside children's noise) One of them you should bring them here. Bring them, one of them. "They don't chant the name of Hare, Kṛṣṇa, Govinda or anyone. They also don't believe in the shape, form, of God. Never. Like māyāvādīs. So, is there any process that they should be liberated?" And then what told Haridāsa Ṭhākur? You remember? Then Haridāsa Ṭhākur told? Prema Prayojana Prabhu:: Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu, being very concerned for all the jīvas in this world, posed this question to Śrīla Haridāsa Ṭhākur: How is it that all the jīvas, especially they are not chanting or remembering and they are against bhakti, how will they be delivered? So, Haridāsa Ṭhākur said, "My Lord, You are so kind that you have come into this world in the form of your names. And even those who chant nāmābhasa, a semblance of Your names, they are very easily delivered from all their sufferings and sinful reactions. In Śrīmad Bhāgavatam it is stated:
sāṅketyaṁ pārihāsyaṁ vā stobhaṁ helanam eva vā vaikuṇṭha-nāma-grahaṇam aśeṣāgha-haraṁ viduḥ
[One who chants the holy name of the Lord is immediately freed from the reactions of unlimited sins, even if he chants indirectly [to indicate something else], jokingly, for musical entertainment, or even neglectfully. This is accepted by all the learned scholars of the scriptures. SB (6.2.14)]

If anyone who chants the name of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, either: 1.) sāṅketyaṁ: that means they are not calling God, only they are saying the name of God to indicate something else, 2.) pārihāsyaṁ: they are saying the name of God only like a joke, 3.) stobhaṁ: for counting
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beats for musical entertainment, 4.) helanam: they are chanting the name with neglect, neglectfully. Any way they chant the name: vaikuṇṭha-nāma-grahaṇam, what will be the result? aśeṣāghaharaṁ viduḥ – unlimited sinful reactions, more than it is possible to commit, all will be thrown in the ocean." So, these names are very very powerful. Haridāsa Ṭhākur said, "These Muslims, what do they say? 'Ha ram! Ha ram!'" In this language, this means, "How abominable." In the purāṇas there is a story of a person who was being killed by a boar. And he was saying, "Ha ram! Ha ram! How abominable! How abominable!" He was liberated. So, this is very wonderful. Not only that, but Śrīla Haridāsa Ṭhākur, he explained, that this name of Kṛṣṇa is so powerful, even if the syllables are separated, they are separated from each other, not hari – but "ha," and then some more syllables and then later "ri." Like this. This is called (indistinct) interruption, a break in the syllables, still the name will act, knowingly or unknowingly. And destroy so many sins. So, whether the syllables are connected, whether they are separated, whether it is to indicate God, or whether it is to indicate anything else, the name is so powerful. Śrīla Gurudeva: Thank you. So, Haridāsa Ṭhākur told, "Once there was a Mohammedan, Muslim, and he was going through a forest, but he felt (he had to) pass stool. Ok? Devotee: Nature's call. Śrīla Gurudeva: Nature's call (laughing). And (jokingly) in India "Internal sva-bathroom." He sat anywhere, in the jungle, and a very powerful boar, boar you know? Seeing him from (a) distance, from (the) backside, and he attacked him. One pointed they run, keeping their eyes closed, and they ran to kill that person. So, the boar attacked from (the) backside and he made it in two pieces. From his teeth – sharp teeth. When he attacked, at once he saw that the boar has attacked and he told, "Ha ram! Ha ram!" "Ha ram" means very impure things. They think that a boar is very impure so they call, "Ha ram, Ha ram!" And when he called, "Ha ram!" Kṛṣṇa, like Rāma, He was there. He thought, "He is calling Me? I must go and help." And at once He came and gave liberation – at once. And he went to Vaikuṇṭha-dhāma.Unknowingly he did. As impure - he did. So, (the) name is very powerful. If anyone, not knowing the glories of (the holy) name, and if he (is) chanting with respect or disrespect, the fruits of (the) names, certainly he will achieve. But not prema. He will liberated from this world. Up to this. Sometimes he may have wealth of this world. So much wealthy he will be, by name. But if anyone with honor, taking dīkṣā, real instance, with relation to Kṛṣṇa, then what will be? If he is under the guidance of any high rasika vaiṣṇava, tattva jñāna, then he will gradually come in śrāddha, niṣṭha, ruci, āsakti, and after that he will be liberated and then prema, sneha, māna, praṇaya, rāga, anurāga, bhāva and mahābhāva – he will go.

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So, we should try to chant Kṛṣṇa's name in this process. Like Haridāsa Ṭhākur, continuously. But if anyone can not, even by this (mentioned above) he can achieve liberation. He can can not die. Kṛṣṇa's name will save him. So, try to do (chant the) name in a process. First, be associated with high quailification vaiṣṇavas. And then he will give you dīkṣā, divya-jñāna. All knowledge, transcendental knowledge, he will give. And you will be detached from worldly desires. And very soon a tik relationship with Kṛṣṇa will come; that is in our constitutional form. And then gradually, śrāddha, niṣṭha, ruci, and āsakti, and after that rati will come. This rati is śuddha sattva that I explained yesterday. So, he is telling all these things. Once, Haridāsa Ṭhākur, anyhow by the wish of Kṛṣṇa, he came to see Raghunātha but he was in the consul of his father. And at that time so many learned persons, brāhmaṇas and all, were assembled there and they were talking about the glories of (the holy) name. One was telling that (the holy) name can give liberation and one was telling that no, never, He can not give liberation. So, both were quarelling. In the meantime Haridāsa Ṭhākur came and all were standing and they were giving honor to Haridāsa Ṭhākur. And they asked (him) this same question by which they were struggling. By (the holy) name anyone can achieve liberation or not? Just like this question. Haridāsa Ṭhākur told very humbly that, "No need of pure name for liberation. By the semblance of (the holy) name anyone can very easily be liberated." Then one brāhmaṇa, Gopal Cakravartī, became very angry and he began to challenge Haridāsa Ṭhākur. All (others) were warning him not to challenge Haridāsa Ṭhākur – he is a high class devotee. But he challenged. Haridāsa Ṭhākur replied very humbly – (but) he (Gopal Cakravartī) was telling that, "Name can not give liberation and you are telling nāmābhasa can give liberation and if I am true then your nose, by leprosy, will go away. And if I am wrong and you are right then my nose will go away." All became so angry to that person and the father of Raghunātha Dāsa Gosvāmī told that you should go out from our country I have no sympathy for you now. He was paying that person so many lakhs of rupees monthly; but he said, "I have stopped everything; you should go out of my kingdom." And after that, in a couple of days leprosy attacked him. Everywhere leprosy and his nose melted away. Then he became very worried and then he went to Navadvīpa - to Aparādha bhajana part Aparādha bhajana part means? Prema Prayojana Prabhu:: The place where offenses are eradicated. Śrīla Gurudeva: At that time Caitanya Mahāprabhu was there. After taking sannyāsa from Śāntipur he went to Vṛndāvana and after so many years he was praying to Caitanya Mahāprabhu, "I have done wrong. I have done offenses to the feet of a high class vaiṣṇava. So, please excuse me." He told, "I can not do anything. You should go to Haridāsa Ṭhākur, he may do it."

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And then he went and Haridāsa Ṭhākur was very merciful. He forgave (him). So, Haridāsa Ṭhākur was a very high class devotee. If you will chant (the holy) name then a power comes, (a) special kind of power, that what you speak it will be true. Certainly, I have (experienced) tested; I have examined this. Once I was chanting (the holy) name and if I am chanting this name and this must be done. And at once it was done. So many times I have examined. So, if you will chant (the holy) name and if you will tell, "Oh, you should die." He (that person) will die. You know Nārada Ṭhākur he told to the sons of – no – Nalakūvara and Maṇigrīva – that at once you should be a tree. And by the power of this name, wonderful, at once he began to be a tree. Sometimes, Nārada told that, "Oh! You are now dead. Oh! Come on! Come on! Come on! Come on!" And he came back and he began to speak. What is this? This is the power of (the holy) name. Agastya told to the ocean, "Oh you should return back the eggs of this bird." And when he never heard anything then he (breathed in) and, by the power of (the holy) name, he took all of the water – and the ocean was dry. So, you can also examine, test, whether it is true or not. You should chant for some years, like Haridāsa Ṭhākur, like any devotee. And you will see that so much power is coming. Svāmīji became so powerful that in a couple of years he preached everywhere. Why? Because he was chanting name. And by the power of name and this bhakti all came in his umbrella. Took shelter. Myself also. What I am doing? Only chanting name. By the power. So, don't disbelieve in name. Even money, liberation, anything, very easily you can have by, receive by, this name. So, Haridāsa Ṭhākur is an example of this. He never wished but even that person challenged him and he became attacked by leprosy. We have seen so many places about Haridāsa Ṭhākur. Even last night we explained about that prostitute; though she was visiting as a girl, (she was) maybe 16 to 20, only by the grace of Haridāsa Ṭhākur and she became a very prominent devotee. So, we should try to chant name like this. Not only this, once māyā herself came to Haridāsa Ṭhākur one day – at night. Quite nirjana, a solitary place, on the side of Ganges, full moon. Very beautiful, she went to Haridāsa Ṭhākur and prayed that, "In whole world I have seen you most beautiful. And I am also beautiful. You can see. Once you should see me, for a glance." But Haridāsa Ṭhākur was chanting:
Hare Kṛṣṇa, Hare Kṛṣṇa, Kṛṣṇa Kṛṣṇa, Hare Hare/ Hare Rāma, Hare Rāma, Rāma Rāma, Hare Hare

She was whole night with him – telling him so many thing. She came three nights. Haridāsa Ṭhākur told, "You should wait. I am chanting harināma for one koṭī name." (On the) third day she came, folding hands and she told – what (did she say)? "Why mayā, myself I have cheated Saṅkara, I have cheated Brahmā the creator, Nārada, I have cheated, Gokama, and so many, so many, so many. I can cheat all. But I am defeated by you. I am (the) same māyā now I am begging your mercy. Be pleased to me. I (want to) received Rāma nāma but now I want to be initiated by Kṛṣṇa mantra. You should initiate me."

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Then Haridāsa Ṭhākur, (being) very merciful, he initiated her with Kṛṣṇa nāma. Rama nāma is (tarak) nāma, (tarak) you know? Rāma nāma is (tarak) Brahmā. Anyone, by Rāma name, he can be liberated with this (tarak) nāma. But Kṛṣṇa name is parakya; parakya means giving braja prema. Though both are same but some speciality. What speciality? Those who will take shelter of Rāma they can not be like Sītā, whatever they will be. But Rāma, sometimes gives up Sītā. For no reason. For no reason. Even hearing the words of a very bogus washerman, he believed and told that, "Oh you were in the house of Rāvaṇa, so I don't like you. You should go away anywhere you like." And in the last (days), what did Rāma, forever, He (renounced) Sītā. He gave up Sītā for whole life. Not rejected. He can not reject. So, He told, "You can go anywhere, now our relation is stopped." And forever, He last and She went where? In the āśrama of Vālmīki. What was the fault of Sītā devī or offence that Rāmacandra gave up Her for life? What? Nothing. But He believed in the words of (a) washerman, who had told (Rāmacandra) to give up (Sītā). So, if you are chaste, so much chaste, serving Rāma, but even He may reject you also. May reject. So, if here but Kṛṣṇa, anyhow even (indistinct) can come and tell that, "Oh I have taken your shelter, please accept." And He will accept. You know Narakāsura? He has conquered all the kings of India and he has collected all the beautiful girls and wives of and all the rājyakumārīs, princesses. And he wanted to enjoy them all. But anyhow Kṛṣṇa knew from Nārada ṛṣi and he went and killed him and he told (them – the princesses) that, "Now you are independent. You can go to your fathers, your husbands, your daughters, sons, mothers and others. You can go easily. I will arrange for you to go to your homes. Return back." But what they told? "We don't want to go. Noone will accept us because we have been in the house of Narakāsura. So, we have taken shelter. You should give me chance to serve your queens. We will broom (sweep) we will cook for them, we will massage them. Anyhow you should give me shelter." Then Kṛṣṇa what did (he do)? He took them all on his (carrying bird) Garuḍa. (At that time) Garuḍa became very big and all he took and went to Dvārakā and in separate palaces he married them all – like queens. Rāma can't keep. Can he marry with anyone? Except Sītā? And He can also reject Sītā. Rāma can not do. He also in the last time he left Lakṣmaṇa also forever. Very, very, very pathetic all these things. So very easily we will go to Kṛṣṇa.
ye yathā māṁ prapadyante tāṁs tathaiva bhajāmy aham mama vartmānuvartante manuṣyāḥ pārtha sarvaśaḥ
[All of them—as they surrender unto Me—I reward accordingly. Everyone follows My path in all respects, O son of Pṛthā. Bg. (4.11)]

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Oh, Kṛṣṇa has promised, so we should believe in Kṛṣṇa. He has so much promise for us. Kṛṣṇa, in Rāma (līlā), sometimes He becomes very niṣṭhurāḥ, cruel. But Kṛṣṇa anyhow to anyone always (He is) very humble and very sweet to all. So, Haridāsa Ṭhākur is also telling this fact. Gopīs have told this.
mṛgayur iva kapīndraṁ vivyadhe lubdha-dharmā striyam akṛta-virüpāṁ strī-jitaḥ kāma-yānām balim api balim attvāveṣṭayad dhvāìkṣavad yas tad alam asita-sakhyair dustyajas tat-kathārthaḥ
[Like a hunter, He cruelly shot the king of the monkeys with arrows. Because He was conquered by a woman, He disfigured another woman who came to Him with lusty desires. And even after consuming the gifts of Bali Mahārāja, He bound him up with ropes as if he were a crow. So let us give up all friendship with this dark- complexioned boy, even if we can’t give up talking about Him. SB (10.47.17)]

Oh, gopīs what doing? They are telling to Kṛṣṇa – No, to Uddhava gopīs are telling: "Go and tell Kṛṣṇa, 'We have nothing to have a friendship with Kṛṣṇa. If He can give up us we have given up Him. But what to do? Our heart never gives up. This is the problem. How He is cruel? All blacks are cruel not only this fellow. All black fellows (are cruel)." One black in Tretā-yuga he told that, "I am going to obey my father's words. And I am now renounced." But why (did) he take his wife with him? And he went there. A very beautiful lady came and told that, "I want, I love you I want to marry you." Rāma told that, "Oh, I have only one wife, this. I can not marry second. Oh, better you should go to my younger brother Lakṣmaṇa. Oh, he has no wife." Actually, He said he has no wife but he was married but trickily He told. And then she went to Lakṣmaṇa and Lakṣmaṇa told, "Do you want to be a queen or do you want to be a maidservant? If you marry me then you will have to be a servant of this Lady because She is my queen. I am servant so you will be servant. And if you want to be a queen you should marry Rāma. Rāma can have so many wives." Then she again came to Rāma but Rāma told, "Oh I can not do this; better you should go to my younger brother." Then she was rejected by Rāma again came (to) Lakṣmaṇa and then came to Rāma and thus she was upset. And she wanted to kill Sītā. But Rāma cut off her ears and nose. The gopīs are telling, accusing Rāma, "Why he did so? He was lusty. To please his wife he wanted to cut and that is why her nose...Why he cut? He could have humbly told that, 'I can not do this.'" He was cutting joke with that lady and that is why she became furious. He could have rejected (humbly) and said, "Oh, I can not do this. You should go to your husband or anyone." But why did he do so? He was cruel. And third? Vāmanadeva. What he did? He took all things. All the possessions of Bali Mahārāja. And what did he do? He bound him in a snake rope. And then he was weeping. Anyhow Prahlāda Mahārāja and Brahmā came and said, "What are you doing?" And then He left.
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So, all the blacks are like this. But there is some deep meanings. We have no time to describe all these things. So come to our subject. So, Rāma nāma: Rāma (is) for Rāma and Rāma (is) for Kṛṣṇa. Here in this mahā-mantra: Hare Kṛṣṇa and Hare Rāma. Hare Rāma. Hare (indicates) Rādhikā. And Rāma (indicates) Rādhā-Ramaṇa Kṛṣṇa is Rāma. Same thing. Kṛṣṇa is called Rāma. So, Hare Rāma (indicates) Rādhā-Kṛṣṇa. So, three Rāma names are equal to one Kṛṣṇa nāma. I am not telling. Who is telling? Śāstra is telling Purāṇas are telling like this. Viṣṇu Purāṇa. Three Rāma names are equal to (one Kṛṣṇa name) but not that Rāma – (rather) Rādhā-Ramaṇa name. This Rāma nāma is equal to Kṛṣṇa. Sometimes more than Kṛṣṇa nāma, Rādhā-Ramaṇa. So, there are so many things. So, Haridāsa Ṭhākur says four qualities:
tṛṇād api su-nīcena taror via sahiṣṇunā amāninā māna-dena kīrtanīyaḥ sadā hariḥ

["One who thinks himself lover than the grass, who is more tolerant than a tree, and who does not expect personal honor yet is always prepared to give all respect to others can very easily always chant the hold name of the lord"

(Ādi 17.3, Antya 6.239, Antya 20.21)]

tṛṇād api su-nīcena

How he is su-nīcena? Any example? Oh, he used to think that, "I am muslim. I am not qualified to go to the temple." He never used to come on the many streets of Jagannātha Purī why?
tṛṇād api su-nīcena

You know he was in Śāntipur (and) Advaitācārya forcibly took him to his house and wanted to give honor. What honor? That all his relatives were assembled there and it was the śrāddha day of their forefathers. And he wanted to give the first dish to Haridāsa Ṭhākur. It was to be given to any high class respected person but Haridāsa Ṭhākur was brought there and forcibly Advaitācārya gave (it to him). And he began to weep and said, "I am not qualified. I am muslim."

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But yet what did Advaitācārya say? "If I give you this offering, this will be the best thing in the whole universe. All of my forefathers will be liberated if you take this." Then all relatives walked out from there and said, "We don't like Advaitācārya. He is out of our caste." He said, "I don't care. You can go. I want bhakti only. Not you. You can go. You are foolish persons." But afterwards again they returned back and they fell flat on the lotus (feet) of Advaitācārya and also to Haridāsa Ṭhākur. Haridāsa Ṭhākur is out of caste. Paramahaṁsa. He is more superior than paramahaṁsa. Like Prahlāda Mahārāja – he is so. So, we should try to follow this Haridāsa Ṭhākur always chanting name.
tṛṇād api su-nīcena taror via sahiṣṇunā

How? (indicating a devotee in the audience) Can you prove? You, you, you. Can you prove? Prema Prayojana Prabhu: Haridāsa Ṭhākur was very, very popular and the Muslim king he was thinking, "This Haridāsa Ṭhākur is giving a very bad reputation to Islam. He was born in a Muslim family, (then) why is he chanting the name of a Hindu god?" So, he called him to his consul. And then he threatened him, "You should not chant the name of Kṛṣṇa anymore. You should be a very good Muslim and chant the name of Allah. If you don't do this then there will be a very severe punishment for you." Śrīla Haridāsa Ṭhākur he replied:
khaṇḍa khaṇḍa hai deha yāya yadi prāṇa tabu āmi vadane nā chāḍi harināma
["Even if you cut my body into pieces, I will never give up the chanting of Hari nama." C. B. Adi (6.94)]

You may cut my body into thousands of pieces and I may give up my life; but my tongue can not give up the chanting of this name.
Hare Kṛṣṇa, Hare Kṛṣṇa, Kṛṣṇa Kṛṣṇa, Hare Hare/ Hare Rāma, Hare Rāma, Rāma Rāma, Hare Hare

So, then the king he ordered that Haridāsa Ṭhākur should be beaten in 22 market places. Śrīla Gurudeva: (to someone in audience) Oh, you should hear! What are you counting? Oh, my dear friend, what are you counting? You should hear this class. Better you should give your ears to this hari-kathā. What are you counting here? Zero, zero, zero? How many zeros? Oh, you should hear attentively. Don't give your mind here and there.

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Prema Prayojana Prabhu: So, then the soldiers they took Haridāsa Ṭhākur to the marketplace and they had very strong and powerful whips, and they were beating him. Usually, in one market place someone will die. Why? Because the beating is so severe. First the skin breaks. And then it is cut. And then the skin and blood and flesh starts to come off. And they are beating him. One market place, another market place, another market place. Until there was no skin, no flesh, no blood, only bones, even bones were broken. And dragging him. But like a miracle this name was still coming.
Hare Kṛṣṇa, Hare Kṛṣṇa, Kṛṣṇa Kṛṣṇa, Hare Hare/ Hare Rāma, Hare Rāma, Rāma Rāma, Hare Hare

They couldn't believe it. And at the same time, while they were beating him, sometimes Haridāsa Ṭhākur, he would look toward them and smile very compassionately. He would see that they were sweating and sweating from the hard labor of thrashing him and he would say, "Oh I hope that you are not feeling any pain from all this beating." Very, very humble. After some time they became afraid. And they thought, "If he doesn't die, then the king will kill us." And they came to him and said, they revealed this, "The king will kill us if you don't die." Haridāsa Ṭhākur said, "Oh, I don't want to give any trouble or inconvenience to others. So, now you have told me, oh, I shall die at once." Then he went into a samādhi, trance, and then it seemed he had passed away. So, they took his body and threw it in the Ganges. But the very next moment he came out of the Ganges and his body was strong and healthy again. So, this is the power of harināma. If anyone can chant harināma then, as Lord Brahmā has said before. Now Lord Brahmā is coming in the form of Haridāsa Ṭhākur and Prahlāda mahārāja both. Prahlāda mahārāja was beaten and put through so many tortures by his father but he never complained or became disturbed. And Lord Brahmā, he has said:
tat te ’nukampāṁ su-samīkṣamāṇo bhuṣjāna evātma-kṛtaṁ vipākam hṛd-vāg-vapurbhir vidadhan namas te jīveta yo mukti-pade sa dāya-bhāk
[My dear Lord, one who earnestly waits for You to bestow Your causeless mercy upon him, all the while patiently suffering the reactions of his past misdeeds and offering You respectful obeisances with his heart, words and body, is surely eligible for liberation, for it has become his rightful claim. SB (10.14.8)]

It is only a matter of time, (a) very short time indeed, when a person will attain the shelter of the lotus feet of Kṛṣṇa. What kind of person? That person who, in the midst of all kinds of difficulties, problems, and adverse conditions, he says to himself, "This is not your fault, not your fault, you are not beating me. My own karma is beating me. I have done it myself. This is my fault." And one who very patiently tolerates all difficulties considering himself to be the fault of all problems and at the same time takes shelter, by body, mind, and words, of the lotus feet of
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Kṛṣṇa, then that person very easily they will come to Kṛṣṇas eternal service and be happy forever. Śrīla Gurudeva: Thank you. So,
caitanyāvatāre vahe premāmṛta-vanyā saba jīva preme bhāse, pṛthivī haila dhanyā
[“There is now a flood of the eternal nectar of love of Godhead due to the incarnation of Lord Caitanya. All living entities are floating in that flood. The entire world is now thankful to the Lord. CC Antya 3.254

Caitanya Mahāprabhu pastimes a devotee like Svarūpa Damodara, Rāmānanda Rāya, Śikhi Māhiti, Mādhavī-devī, Puṇḍarīka Vidyānidhi. And devotees like Vakreśvara Paṇḍita, Gopīnātha Ācārya, Kāśīnātha Vipram, Vāṇīnātha Rāya. Moreover, Govinda, Gopāla Guru, and all the Gauḍīya bhaktas, like Śivānanda Sena, Rāghava Paṇḍita and Kavicandra was a small boy. Especially Rūpa Gosvāmī, Sanātana Gosvāmī, Raghunātha Dāsa Gosvāmī, Haridāsa Ṭhākur with them Mahāprabhu was playing pastimes. So, at that time:
caitanyāvatāre vahe premāmṛta-vanyā saba jīva preme bhāse, pṛthivī haila dhanyā
[“There is now a flood of the eternal nectar of love of Godhead due to the incarnation of Lord Caitanya. All living entities are floating in that flood. The entire world is now thankful to the Lord. CC Antya (3.254)]

What? The fruit of all prema, Vraja prema, was there – everywhere, waves and waves were everywhere. End tape Begin 20010525USA_ALACHUA_PM_GLORIES_OF_SRILA_HARI_DAS_THAKUR_B
e-vanyāya ye nā bhāse, sei jīva chāra koṭi-kalpe kabhu tāra nāhika nistāra
[“Anyone who does not float in this inundation is most condemned. Such a person cannot be delivered for millions of kalpas. CC Antya (3.255)]

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Still that bhaṅga (waves) is going on. Still. Only those who are fortunate they can take bath in that – that flood. What (is the) meaning? in this ----- those who are not taking bath they are what? Very unfortunate. chāra means wretched, fallen or so many things. So,
koṭi-kalpe kabhu tāra nāhika nistāra

If you are not taking bath in that flood of love and affection of Caitanya Mahāprabhu then thousands and thousands of births will go in vain. You can not have anything. So, in this human form you are very near to that flood. Oh, nearly only four or five hundred years – but still waves are coming. So much. So, try to take bath in this and be very fortunate to have Kṛṣṇa prema. Very easily. We can – we are helping you. Svamiji came to help you. (He preached) that, "Give up all these bogus things that you are thinking they can give me happiness. Never and never. Wealth can not give you any happiness. Your all relatives can not give you anything. Your this – very high class of house. Having so many facilities any (indistinct) latrine will come. Any (indistinct) your restroom will come; your kitchen room will come; your dish will come; office will come." So, all the facilities, give up all these facilities. They can not give any help. Please chant name like Haridāsa Ṭhākur and be:
tṛṇād api su-nīcena taror via sahiṣṇunā amāninā māna-dena kīrtanīyaḥ sadā hariḥ
["One who thinks himself lover than the grass, who is more tolerant than a tree, and who does not expect personal honor yet is always prepared to give all respect to others can very easily always chant the hold name of the lord" (Ādi 17.3, Antya 6.239, Antya 20.21)]

Dont' your wish your māna. Never. Don't try to hear your reputations. And give proper honor to all vaiṣṇavas. This is the teachings of Haridāsa Ṭhākur. We should try to obey him from today. Not today! Just now. And we should chant always, without any interruption:
Hare Kṛṣṇa, Hare Kṛṣṇa, Kṛṣṇa Kṛṣṇa, Hare Hare/ Hare Rāma, Hare Rāma, Rāma Rāma, Hare Hare

Oh ( Devotee's name) your song. Your own song. (devotees sing song) Gaura premānande! Hari hari bol!

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Śrīla Gurudeva: Oh, one thing more. In the last days of Haridāsa Ṭhākur Caitanya Mahāprabhu used to go daily to him to give His darśana with His all associates. Just after morning ārati of Jagannāthadeva and he used to send so much prasādam, mahā-prasādam, for Haridāsa Ṭhākur through the hands of Govinda, his own servant, or what – disciple or what. One day, Govinda took some prasāda and went to him but he told, "Today I am feeling very sick." And doing praṇāma he took (a morsel) and he took it and said, "I cannot take prasādam." He became worried and he returned back to Caitanya Mahāprabhu and he said, "I went with prasādam to serve him but he said, 'I am feeling some sickness.' I think that he is not feeling well." Mahāprabhu (on the) next day with his all associates, Svarūpa Damodara, Rāmānanda Rāya, and all others, He went there and He said to Haridāsa Ṭhākur, "How are you feeling?" "Oh, I am feeling sick." "What sickness?" "Sickness is that by body I am OK. But I have not completed my chanting name three lakhs. I can not chant. My hands are not moving and I can not. Oh! This is my sickness." Can you try to be like this? We should try to be like this. This is only one that – that we have no taste in chanting name and we are not doing. Caitanya Mahāprabhu said, "Now you are perfect. No need of chanting so much. As much as you can do you should do." But he told that, "I don't want to live in this world long. I know that very soon You will disappear from this world. I don't want to see this very pathetic scene. I want that I should, my head, should be in Your lap. I will see Your face, Gaura. And I should Gaurāṅga name. And I should chant Gaurāṅga name. Śacī-nandana Gaura Hari! Gaura Hari! Like this and I want to give up this body." Mahāprabhu told him that, "All My all pastimes with you. If no My associates like you, no pastimes. Oh, let Me be alone in this world. I want that you should not go." But he again (and) again requested, "I don't want to see this pathetic scene so please be merciful to me." Then Caitanya Mahāprabhu assembled all the (devotees) with Svarūpa Damodara, Rāmānanda Rāya. With so many mṛdaṅga and karatālas He began to do parikrama of Haridāsa Ṭhākur with kīrtana.
(hari) haraye namaḥ kṛṣṇa yādavāya namaḥ yādavāya mādhavāya keśavāya namaḥ (1) gopāla govinda rāma śrī madhusūdana giridhārī gopīnātha madana-mohana (2)
[Nāma-Saṅkīrtana Śrīla Narottama dāsa Ṭhākura (1-2)]

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And after that He told the devotees that, "You should go on doing." And He sat near Haridāsa Ṭhākur. He took the head of Haridāsa Ṭhākur in His lap and he was telling, only he was seeing towards where? In the mouth of Caitanya Mahāprabhu and what (was he) calling? Śacī-nandana! Gaurahari! Gaurahari! Gaurahari! And he left (his) body at once. Mahāprabhu began to weep and all (the) devotees began to weep. So much bitter separation mood. All began to weep. Then Caitanya Mahāprabhu took his body in His lap and anyhow from lap He kept in on the chariot. What chariot? As we do in the Indian customs. For Hindus. They made a chariot like this and with, nagasaṅkīrtana, they went to (indistinct) on the banks of the ocean. Caitanya Mahāprabhu did his samādhi with His own hands and kept Haridāsa Ṭhākur with harināma chanting with mantra. With Vedic culture that we do. He put tilaka and he gave the mantra here of sannyāsī, mantra there and he put in samādhi. And then all began to put sand on that and then an samādhi mandir was established. Temple already. Now it is permanent. And then Caitanya Mahāprabhu told, "Those who were singing there, and those who have done parikrama of Haridāsa Ṭhākur those who are doing anything, even giving one hand of sand even, and those who are in this festival – this is festival of Haridāsa Ṭhākur, viraha mahā-mahaotsava. They collected some dīkṣā from Govinda market. All began to give all their stocks but Mahāprabhu and Svarūpa Damodara told, "We don't want (everything). Very small. From each shopkeeper they took (a small amount). From someone dahl, from someone vegetables, rice etc... and it became sufficient. And Caitanya Mahāprabhu Himself began to distribute but Svarūpa Damodara all others requested that, "If You are not sitting and not taking then noone else will take." And then he sat and he began to tell:
mahā-prasāde govinde nāma-brahmaṇi vaiṣṇave svalpa-puṇyavatāṁ rājan viśvāso naiva jāyate
(Prasāda-Sevā – Caitanya-caritāmāta, Antya-lila 16.96 (purport) – from the Skanda Purāṇa) mahā-prasādam kī jaya! harināma saṅkīrtana kī jaya! Śrīla Haridāsa Ṭhākur kī jaya! Samāgata bhakta-vṛnda kī jaya! Gaura premānande! Hari hari bol!
transcribed September 2012 by devananda dasa (original name of file = 2001_05_25_USA_ALACHUA_PM_GLORIES_OF_SRILA_HARI_DAS_THAKUR_A this document both A & B)

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