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html?pp=60 16-01-2009 01:38 PM 4/27 .that of our selection and their rejection b creating nuisance. Especiall for that one "Pink P ajamas fl ing high on RedFort".The Everything of MBA in India and Abroad. :rockedov: Could u pl some more abstract topics and anal sis like this.. thanks for the wonderful thread. CAT 2011.com . please put them across and I will tr m best to provide suggestions. Remember . soumik. Cheers. It is evr seldom we see that b-Schools actuall give something creative like the "pink p jamas. g an soumik. ou will normall find 4-5 people creating the ruckus and going nowhere. An thing that ou would be comfortable in handling and ou would have conviction while talking to the OTHER members in the group. These kind of GDs are not ver eas to judge for the juries and therefore the rarit .2/5/12 PaGaLGuY. etc. Actuall the will be doing our job perfectl .make new inroads into the topic from various angles vi Social. Political. parental.. I will further provide ou with certain situations that ou can come across in GDs. GM g an soumik." t pe.com/forum/ /36824-survival-tips-b-school-gd-print. Quote: Originall Posted b g anvikas (Post 1350964) He Soumik. financial.gangul Re: Survival Tips for B-School GD-PI Processes Hi.gangul Bod Language Basics pagalguy.gangul What to do during a Fish Market in a GD 16-01-2009 01:26 PM During a Fish market. 16-01-2009 01:21 PM Generall the topics that ou will encounter in various Institutes would be related to some problem statement or somethiing based on the current and future economic trends. If ou have an further problems.

Almost every student will ask this question first up. Having said that. As of now. and relax your body by breathing deeply once or twice. Every one of them is true for every possible situation – starting right now from your selection GD and Interviews to client acquisitions. It has been termed as the non-verbal communication by many masters and therefore counts for maximum marks in your GD-PI and creates maximum impression when you are with clients. executive interviews.” Well. I will suggest you to go by this “rule” until you figure out something else more scientific. keep both your legs in-front of you.com/forum/ /36824-survival-tips-b-school-gd-print. What is the best way to sit inside a GD? This is the starting point. then your thinking becomes a little better than usual. This is a no-no. Know-it-all will tell you that non-verbal communication accounts to almost 60% of our total communication to any person. both hands on your legs. First up for you – the basics of Body Language for Group Discussions.The Everything of MBA in India and Abroad. Not pointing fingers and things like that are something that I do not want to mention as it is understood you will not do those things that you won t want others to do to you. the correct posture is to sit back. the formal education does not teach us many things and one of them will be the way to conduct ourselves in different situations. the idea is to relax and also be attentive. That s correct no doubt. There is a third wherein we don t know what to do and mess-up. and folding your hands as you get ready to speak. GM What is Body Language? Generally when I have asked this question to students/aspirants. many a times there is a possibility that you will tend to sit on the edge of the chair. One can actually learn a lot from them in terms of how they use their hands for making various points and suggestions. etc. All these possibilities are avoidable. CAT 2011. Avoid putting one leg on top of the other (as you may be a Zamindaar but out there it is time to prove other things). deals with clients. Either we are too serious and mess-up. So what is it that you will need to create an impression? Normally. When you sit on a chair. Using the chair is something that I have had pains to make many people understand. people who make an impression are those pagalguy. Research says that if your backbone is steady and in not much of a stress. or against any opponent (hey. and list goes on. aren t they an opponent?). Actually in India. One thing that I have learnt in my life (the hard way of-course) is the fact that the best of deals that I have cracked in my profession and the negotiations that went along with them were won due to my body language which prevailed upon the other side giving them an impression that they could trust me and in turn trust the establishment I was representing. Your Body Language is something like a platform upon which you will base many future-things like summer internship.html?pp=60 5/27 . The Body language (like any other language) has its own set of rules but like a good conversationalist. What should be my hand movement during discussions? I will ask you to go and watch some of these news presenters from the English channels. But Body Language goes far beyond that and the whole premise that it holds good only for that one GD or the PI for your selection into the B-School is rubbish. their answers have always been similar – “Something to do with the way one sits or gestures.2/5/12 PaGaLGuY. Remember – no skill that you will learn from this book will end up non-usable in your career. final placements.(Have you ever wondered how come those Head of the Departments thought correctly at times and not observed them couched into their seats?). one can master every response in such a way that you can win in any situation. Why? Well I believe any Dr. I will want you to sit back so that the back rest is actually doing its job – supporting your back. When one sits on a chair for discussing a topic.com . or we are too casual and mess-up.

html?pp=60 6/27 . Right now we will focus on how to get pagalguy. They use excessive hand movements that at times seem a little hostile. This generally happens due to over excitement. GM who speak without folded hands. They start using hand gestures that are un-parliamentary in any forum.2/5/12 PaGaLGuY. People say this and they mean it – “Don t take anyone on face value”. CAT 2011. An open arm gesture while talking always gives others a subconscious feeling that you are the one they will want to talk to. Please understand that it is very much situation based and you will have to figure out that if there are situations wherein you will need to have a straight face and it will help in the discussion. who will stop you from doing that? You should be the one who will bring the group and the discussion together (maybe even others will do that which is better still). Why should the others be left out? Don t you have to discuss with every member in the group? Is it not a very democratic discussion wherein they deserve your attention for any point that is discussed? The idea is to (a) speak to all the members and let them feel that you are the one who can be trusted and you will be there to hear when they will make their points. 3. Even if they are there. 5. 4. Most of the time. soumik. What about my eye-contact? I just hope that you don t end up getting Hritik Roshan or Aishwarya Rai in your GD group so that you have an issue with your eye contact as you speak in a GD. Why? You will feel that if someone is smiling when you are talking then you have sold him the idea and be shocked when the next disturbing question comes from that very person. then you should get more discussion threads directed towards you than anyone else. and avoid eye-contact with them throughout the discussion. Use Karate-Chop movements for making a point that you believe is pertinent and has to be told to everyone. group think and group shift) in my following posts. and (b) know and strategize around those people who will be hostile to your ideas and logic. Should I keep a smiling face or should I be serious? Normally. They come to the edge of their seats when something they feel is very important to prove or disprove.com/forum/ /36824-survival-tips-b-school-gd-print. They seem to forget that there are a couple of people sitting right next to them.Understanding our Communications St les 16-01-2009 01:46 PM I will tell you the secrets of getting the other things in place (like clarity of thought.com . Figure this out by taking a feedback from your peers if your eyecontact currently is good enough or you need to get the ideal way of doing it. Open-Palm usage to point to someone is also acceptable as that helps you create your own team in the process.The Everything of MBA in India and Abroad. 2. the idea is to ensure that you speak to everyone and not to someone special alone. which shows in their body language that closes up giving a clear communication that they are not comfortable. and therefore if you are approachable. I generally advise anyone to keep a straight face to start with and there is nothing wrong to have a smiling face. we tend to look at people and talk to them who are either supporting our thoughts or are opposing our points vehemently. Please avoid a very long eye contact as it may mean otherwise – either intimidating or something else altogether. They get into a shell when their points are being questioned and discussed animatedly in the group.ganguly Winning Half the Battle . manners. Isn t it nice when the group will wish to seek your opinion before going in for a conclusion? Some of the common errors in body-language that I have come across with students who sit for their practice GDs are: 1. common sense prevails upon many who ask me this question. poise.

who will be open to discussing points and ideas and will analyze everything that will be discussed. After 2 minutes. Harsh s points are beaten down by someone else on the basis of logic and the others now see that Harsh is not forthcoming with his ideas. This style of his can be related to a direct communicator. The problem comes when you are in situations that put you under a lot of stress and demand that you will have to support every logic of yours and win over those opponents. CAT 2011. This has a direct effect on the Body language that is generally more open when you are performing at your primary style and closed when you are in your backup mode. This is actually where his backup style comes into play. Harsh takes up a GD wherein he is the person who starts the discussion – this is where he is performing at Primary Communication style. I will like to distinguish them as – Primary communication style and the Backup Communication style. You will have to tell yourself that you are feeling very confident pagalguy.2/5/12 PaGaLGuY. will know that there is a normal mode and then there is a Safe mode as well. This style is related to a dormant communication style wherein the person just reacts rather than being proactive and it is visible in the way the participation in the discussion in done by him/her. I will provide some tools to help you figure out your own communication style and be aware of that backup style that can resurface anytime wherein you are pushed to the wall. I will suggest all students to ensure that after you have identified that backup style. It is here that you Backup communication style becomes active and you communicate in a way that is probably alien to even yourself at that point of time.The Everything of MBA in India and Abroad. When you are in situations that are rewarding all that you are doing or saying. and is catching up with others giving himself a lot of pauses to come back into the discussion.html?pp=60 7/27 . But why take the pain in understanding the backup style at all? Can we do something about it? Being aware of the backup style helps you to consciously avoid getting into that style of communication and maintain your primary communication style throughout the discussion.com . Let me give you an example. This is a style that we hone and practice to get ourselves. How will you do this? Very simple.com/forum/ /36824-survival-tips-b-school-gd-print. Most of you who are familiar with the MS Windows Operating system. ensure that you can replicate your primary style into your backup style as well. you will showcase your Primary communication style. It is imperative to mention out here that every person has two distinct communication styles for any situation. This is the style that most GD practitioners give you feedback upon and you feel you have prepared enough. How many times have you come out of a GD and told yourself that you just did not know what happened but you lost it out there? That you could not just make any logic out of what you were saying? That you wish you could have handled it in some other way? This is the problem of not knowing your backup style. Your Best chance to get brownie points in the GD depends upon your usage of the primary style. or maybe you are feeling very confident and getting things done by yourself. GM these body-language errors out of your system.

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I will make the following observations. Divide 30 minutes b 10 participants = 3 mins on an average. because taking cue from our point. I guess ou can understand the answer to this question of ours if ou can go through the posts once more time.. 4.. some will not talk and ou will get more chances to talk if ou are listening properl and figuring out the entr points on offer... Actuall ... Even in fish-market situations.i reali e the group put across some brilliant points?) pagalguy. Cheers Quote: ou have something more to Originall Posted b Souraj oti (Post 1352091) h S i da f g eff . In case someone else jumps onto it (which ma also be a recurring case). on top of which ou can again add something interesting. 16-01-2009 03:10 PM M quer is: 1.. It will be important from the Jur 's perspective to get to know how logicall ou an think on a particular problem and come with a step-b -step solution.....thank ou for this thread. remember. h d I a ab a f i i a i ge a e a h dI a e e ha e a e a ab he ? 3. and ou find that there are still things that have not been told. ha h d be idea d a i f hich i i ha e a a 4.2/5/12 PaGaLGuY.html?pp=60 9/27 . thankfull .. Now.to the point and ver effectivel written. ou can enter the GD and give them different perspectives to re-enter the discussion. i 2. I hope I have been able to answer our queries. You can talk for 5-6 minutes and get our job done. 3. ou can sa -adding onto what he had to sa .." . Thats all ou should plan for.. ou are not to give out all our points on a particular thing at one go.com . someone else can contribute something good.com/forum/ /36824-survival-tips-b-school-gd-print. c a if e ab f i g ca e : 1... In case ou can have a PLAN B (which is kind of an alternative plan in case the first plan fails) then ou would probabl score more than an one else during that discussion. that in the entire equation.The Everything of MBA in India and Abroad. Open ended questions are alwa s welcome but should follow with what and HOW to do it. the other participants will also be contributing to our selection at times.. ca e a e -e ded e i ( e.g. "" Ca e d a i g /e e i g adie a d i be acce ed ? dc e c c i e ch ? hi g agai i ? "") rahulram Re: Survival Tips for B-School GD-PI Processes Hi! Reall simple...how do i go about summari ing the discussion when asked to? (whose points should i include if in the course of discussion. 2. The fear that ou ma not be able to speak/ma not get time to give out our points is unfounded. h h d I a a GD? If I a i hi a :'g d ge e a I d i e a ab he ic. Please write back if share.. GM the topic. CAT 2011.

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.com/forum/ /36824-survival-tips-b-school-gd-print. The sales team alwa s deal with the customers. I hope that All the best Cheers. Quote: ou can now re-look at the anal sis again. etc.After persuading the members citing all the aforesaid advantages .The Everything of MBA in India and Abroad.Working with teams does not onl have to be with our own team but including those people in the decision making process who ou feel will be the hurdles to our plan when ou present something like that to our CEO.gangul Re: Survival Tips for B-School GD-PI Processes Soura These are the main issues: 20-01-2009 03:11 PM 1.html?pp=60 16/27 . It depends on the leadership of Raju now to ensure that he gets what he wants and not give into the ego issues of the other team members. Where people want to hold onto information to be powerful. b.Consulting the specific department/domain heads gives them the feeling that the are involved and then the also start attaching their own motives to the plan making it a good proposition infront of the CEO. The inferences ou can make would be how things work in companies like Infos s (that enjo ed the post-liberalisation wa of working) and companies like TATA / Godrej / Etc. pl suggest whether m approach is ok or should I improve? soumik. The CEO is the most powerful. So this decision will not introduce an proprietar concern for the compan . 3. Once ou begin in this wa .this is more of a reaction from them. GM standard of the products. CAT 2011. if the still remained unconvinced then we need to talk with higher authorit and also CEO to make our decision successful . So taking their suggestion will help the compan in serving the prospective customers in better manner. I am posting m approach towards a case stud posted earlier b me. Organi ational cultures.. Soumik da . Culture of the organi ation that still is held up in the pre-liberalisation wa to doing things.com . 2. cohesive teams. requirements of the customers. and therefore the others feel that b suggesting these things Raju and his team has used this privilege to create an 'impression' . Structure of decision makers.. So the are better aware about the liking . power centers. ou are ensuring the discussion goes in some structured pattern Culture fitment. c.2/5/12 PaGaLGuY. Originall Posted b Souraj oti (Post 1359224) Hi. Raju's wa of working with bigger teams . Identif ing the major problem area and giving rating of the factors involved: pagalguy. Mistake of Raju and team .

. T I ?O I . . "F N /N . I . B ' ' .2/5/12 PaGaLGuY.T . S . .A . CEO .com . S .html?pp=60 20-01-2009 03:30 PM . O . . Re: S r i al Tips for B-School GD-PI Processes D L R . T . S . . S . I . ." .K . Putting various angles together and e plaining the course of action: 1. ). .The Everything of MBA in India and Abroad. W NOT. T . I . I . S CEO .T . GD M . M CEO.I "N I ?J " ". I . Y . I ( I pagalguy. GD . " . I ? . GM T CEO .E : .I GD . N . 2. CAT 2011.com/forum/ /36824-survival-tips-b-school-gd-print. I 17/27 . .

I am facing a lo of p oblem ega ding m GD p ep no . etc etc will now have to live upto these products. tulsi. ie if i lack poin hen i can cook p n peak..com .. etc. GM people who have used ingredients like chandan. The will mostl be thrown out.school will alwa s give an abstract topic and another will alwa s give a conventional one. if in a fish market gd if ever one is shouting dan will it go in m favour if i dont shout or shud i shout even harder? soumik. knowledge of certain economic factors. I ha e a lo oice and find m elf in o eal o ble hen he e man people ho ing o e . I will bet this ear too it will be no different as the overall economic slowdown and other related factors will lead the trend of economics related topics and corporate governance topics to have their presence felt across all B-School selection GDs.schools give which t pe of gd topics?i mean is it necessar that a b. take care Cheers.. Again ou cannot just sit there and shake our head in disgust. Al o... ou've won the game right there itself. See if that helps ou. So what is the real market?? I wish ou all the best for our practice Gds.. 2.com/forum/ /36824-survival-tips-b-school-gd-print.html?pp=60 18/27 . ou still have better chance in case the panel has to decide if the reall want to have someone from the group for the PI. In MAHA-CET GDs. You can get some opener's tips from one of m first posts in this thread.The Everything of MBA in India and Abroad. Quote: Originall Posted b romil_mba (Post 1357378) He So mik!! Thn o o m ch fo hi eall ef l fo m. Fi l . You will be rejected along with the entire "Shouting" group if ou join the part . shweta kathuria Re: S r i al Tips for B-School GD-PI Processes 20-01-2009 03:38 PM which b.2/5/12 PaGaLGuY. pagalguy. plea e g ide. CAT 2011. In case the do not listen. What do ou do? In one of m previous posts on the "Fish Market GD".. You do not have to open if ou cant. I al o find ha i oo diffic l fo me o a .gangul Re: S r i al Tips for B-School GD-PI Processes Dear Shweta 20-01-2009 04:04 PM 1. I have mentioned ou will have to re-enter the GD b bringing those shouting-team to their senses b providing a new problem for them related to the topic. In case the listen to ou.. Abstract topics are ver rare nowada s as there is a trend (which ma or ma not change) wherein BSchools have gone more into topics that ask for direct anal sis of data. the GD Score will dip due to overall group's performance but ou ma still get better points than the others. I ha e no e po e of p blic peaking and ge o all d mbfo nded if he opic i no a e deba able one.

S 19/27 ..2/5/12 PaGaLGuY. . CAT 2011. GM Quote: Originall Posted b shweta kathuria (Post 1359900) ? . " .html?pp=60 . GD I M . . B ." . . O . :mg: Quote: Originall Posted b soumik. I ?J . I .. pagalguy. "F N /N -I ". /36824-survival-tips-b-school-gd-print. I . Y ' GD . . T . .com/forum/ . S I ( - ). I " .The Everything of MBA in India and Abroad. I I .com . T "N ?O . W NOT. ? chint_01 Re: Survival Tips for B-School GD-PI Processes great thread!!! :mg: 20-01-2009 07:55 PM romil_mba Re: Survival Tips for B-School GD-PI Processes 20-01-2009 09:10 PM Thanks so much Soumik!! That was reall encouraging and i would definitell take ur advices.gangul D R L . I ' (Post 1359869) . will keep troubling u wid such queries. I -I GD .

. . Re: Survival Tips for B-School GD-PI Processes D Y B L Y . T . . ? . O Thn pagalguy. . D T A .. Yo do no ha e o open if o can . R ) ' E . S Re: Survival Tips for B-School GD-PI Processes T I T . CAT 2011. GM ma ke ?? I i h o all he be fo o p ac ice Gd . . 20/27 /36824-survival-tips-b-school-gd-print.html?pp=60 . ake ca e Chee . . . US M (C G &D. I A Q : 20-01-2009 09:40 PM S . P . See if ha help o .. ) I 20-01-2009 09:23 PM . .com/forum/ P o mik da fo Souraj oti (P 1361090) o feedback of M ca e d .The Everything of MBA in India and Abroad.com . .M . M I E .2/5/12 PaGaLGuY. ( R ) I . . Yo can ge ome opene ' ip f om one of m fi po in hi h ead. GD( .

. parameters involved . be e a i e.ga g Re: S r i al Tips for B-School GD-PI Processes Tha Y Q 20-01-2009 09:42 PM R i. e ae e . a e e e ge ca f B ch ..com/forum/ /36824-survival-tips-b-school-gd-print.2/5/12 PaGaLGuY. I ed e he SMS a g age (a he he i c ded i a f ai e e... I g e ca a i ff da i e f. I f de hi. S he g d i i i e i a.com . CAT 2011. i i(h ).. reservation in Indian Education s stem) should I follow same sequence of steps as was prescribed b ou in case of case stud i.The Everything of MBA in India and Abroad. pagalguy. GM In Topics-based GD(e.. pl suggest. 20-01-2009 10:04 PM M c ib i igh i be a e e a ae i i g e hi g. i .e.html?pp=60 i gc e e d he a ) ce a i e a df d h ae e e i i i ca e a cha ge 21/27 .... A i i g ea begi e hi g igh ha . a i e c....g.44 %i e i h dece ec i a . describing actual background .anal sis from diff angles etc ... e i e ha i 20-01-2009 09:55 PM i ge a ca f FORE a d I WANT TO PREPARE f ge ca )) If ha i e e ed h ha a cha ce i .. :mg: a e 1208 Re: S r i al Tips for B-School GD-PI Processes Hi a I ha e c ed 94. i fficia c ica i . will keep troubling u wid such queries. Sad f he .ga g Re: S r i al Tips for B-School GD-PI Processes C ga Sa e . GD/PI WITH WITH OTHERS CALL GETTERS( h e. a e f ee e: O igi a P ed b romil_mba (P 1361048) Thanks so much Soumik!! That was reall encouraging and i would definitell take ur advices.

. Re: S H G GD.. ? .. PI .44 %ile with decent sectionals.... So i m sure that i will get a call from FORE and other good instis like nirma. C C C ???. pagalguy.. IIM-B 21-01-2009 07:50 PM Re: S I i al Tip fo B-School GD-PI P oce C C GD & GD & P e P GD/PI 2 F . /36824-survival-tips-b-school-gd-print.2/5/12 PaGaLGuY.html?pp=60 22/27 . imi(hr). tapmi etc. O P ake 1208 (P 1361180) Hi all I have scored 94.. I WANT TO PREPARE for GD/PI WITH WITH OTHERS CALL GETTERS( those who has a chance to get call)) If u r intereted pl thanxxx pm me. I m from delhi.com/forum/ 27-01-2009 12:45 PM i al Tip fo B-School GD-PI P oce e . CAT 2011. W ..com .. G GD . F i al Tip fo B-School GD-PI P oce e 21-01-2009 07:43 PM .. : ... . R Re: S @ H S H .The Everything of MBA in India and Abroad. GM A C Q GD P GD . .

com . he ge eed begi i i g he a b e i he ai i e di c ed a d he i he ha ca e a . gh i a ha i ce a e e a i ab Shi a i i . he ei ha ca e d i g he GD. I ha e a e h gh d GD. Thi i he i de e i g he eed f i i g i hi a i e-f a e. e e 5 i a d F eg. Thi i e hi g I ha e d e a a d i ea he . Q e: O igi a P ed b Roger Federer (P @soumik. I ha igh ? e 27-01-2009 04:42 PM gi e c e e i f ab he a de e e he e a e h d d hi g e ca .2/5/12 PaGaLGuY. a ge f he c a i e" Ca e d ha ? Wha I h d ha bee gi e f di c i .gangul 1363411) Hi Soumik . f d i a d a i i g a e ie he a e ( e hi g i e a b e ie ). What all do we need to include in it? ge i i hi a i Re: S r i al Tips for B-School GD-PI Processes Hi Y ha e D i g a ca c a a i g ha ide he he ca e hi g i e c P g ide e g ea i he e. Pic a 3c a ic e i TOI a he e a e . f he ic a ' f i i g e'. given that IIM-B and other institutes are giving equal weightage to GD summar and language. e a eed a i e a d e hic e c.html?pp=60 27-01-2009 05:05 PM 23/27 .ga g Re: S r i al Tips for B-School GD-PI Processes Hi pagalguy. CAT 2011.The Everything of MBA in India and Abroad. GM N Y e ge i g i ca i he de ai f he a e: i g c e de a di g f he GD a d he g f he e i i he di c i . i i ad i ab e ha e a ha e ae a d ff? Ac a I a c Ca e d ece " i ce e a e gi e he i e f he c a e c. hope u clear m doubt as well. How do ou go about writing a Group discussion summar .e ie . ou are doing a great job here. he a hich ea ha ea e d Re e be ha ha g be g e f I gge ha a a i g A ic e. If he e i a i ha be he e i Ge e a e i a e ed a ce ai a g e e i be a ed i f da a a e gi e d. given the short time we have at our disposal to write it. a d af e eadi g i ce.com/forum/ /36824-survival-tips-b-school-gd-print. ai e ic ba ed di c i .

Originall Posted b geminishivani (Post 1374637) Hi Y ha e e g ea i he e. Since it is a discussion. he he ba ic a i i hei ca e ace bef e e e d di c i . ou and the group will have to first have the framework in place. The other creative minds in the GD will then be thinking keeping these parameters in mind. ab e ha (Post 1374688) i he ge a . e a i e a d e hic e c.2/5/12 PaGaLGuY.com .. please write back. In case Cheers. top management structure. financials are not mentioned but ou feel ou will need them during the discussion. please get them established right at the opening phase of the discussion.html?pp=60 24/27 . ethics. I ha e a e h gh D i g a ca e d GD. In case ou are alone and the case stud is something that ou will need to write and submit. Si ce i i a di c a f he di c pagalguy. GM I reall like these insightful ones that will help others also in their case stud discussions.gangul Hi I ea i e he e i i i igh f .com/forum/ i ha e he c g i gi f /36824-survival-tips-b-school-gd-print. M suggestion is (and this is normall the wa these panelists will look at it). ou will have to get the basics in place before even going in for an further discussion about the compan . If things like culture. i i ad i ab e ha e a ha ab he c a a d ff? Ac a I a c e e e he e a a i g ha " i ce e a e gi e h d d hi g e ca .The Everything of MBA in India and Abroad. CAT 2011. Quote: ou have further clarifications. ide he a ge f he c a h gh i a ha i ce he ca e d ha bee eed a e e a i ab hi g i e c a igh ? P g ide e a e gi e c e e i f Ca e d ece a d he i e f he c a e c. e i e" Ca e d ha ? Wha I gi e f di c i . then please make teh assumptions b making the specific pointers at the beginning and then go ahead with our anal sis. I ha Shi a i geminishivani Re: Survival Tips for B-School GD-PI Processes Quote: 27-01-2009 05:39 PM Originall Posted b soumik. Hope this solves it for ou.

The compan manages to get a sta order on the govt. please write back. The management is asked to compensate the villagers. ruling from the high court. Was that right? I am bit confused if this should be done or not. the govt. financials are not mentioned but ou feel ou will need them during the discussion. Was that right? Our teacher did not point out an thing! Another thing that came up was the formation of a committee to look at the probabl reason for the fishes d ing. on the banks of river Pamba. ou and the group will have to first have the framework in place. Hope this solves it for Cheers. One da . Thanks Shivani soumik. is located near a village. please get them established right at the opening phase of the discussion. we can not take it as a probable solution. there was talk regarding compensation being given to the villagers in the form of jobs to be offered to the villagers.The Everything of MBA in India and Abroad. Hope The Case Stud was: A fertili er compan . top management structure. the villager folk are deprived of their main source of income due to the death of the fishes. In case ou are alone and the case stud is something that ou will need to write and submit. through their local MLA. ou. Now. X.com/forum/ /36824-survival-tips-b-school-gd-print.. In case ou have further clarifications. The other creative minds in the GD will then be thinking keeping these parameters in mind. we can assume that the committee can not come up with a report on the matter in afew da s" and also talked about corruption.com . The communit makes representation to the govt. While the social activists file a case in the Supreme Court hoping for justice.2/5/12 PaGaLGuY. ethics. the villagers find fish d ing due to fluid waste from the fertili er plant. then please make teh assumptions b making the specific pointers at the beginning and then go ahead with our anal sis. issues an order to close down the fetli er plant. pagalguy. Then another gu said that "we know the s stems being followed in India. What I understood from our post was that we need to clarif assumptions regarding the compan .html?pp=60 27-01-2009 05:54 PM 25/27 . Pi a and Urea. CAT 2011. Suggest a solution to the problem in the case. The fertiliser compan 's contention is that the damage is not due to their fault. If things like culture.gangul Re: S r i al Tips for B-School GD-PI Processes Hi. ou the entire scene that took place during the Case Stud . GM M suggestion is (and this is normall the wa these panelists will look at it). Since fishing is the main source of income for these villagers. Is that right? I'll give that we'll be making some ou dont mind. But then this gu comes up and sa s that since we are not provided with the compan 's si e and policies.

Since fishing is the main source of income for these villagers. ou the entire scene that took place during the Case Stud . Thanks pagalguy. One thing that can be done is to let the group come up with the assumptions themselves.com .The Everything of MBA in India and Abroad.2/5/12 PaGaLGuY. is located near a village. issues an order to close down the fetli er plant. the villagers find fish d ing due to fluid waste from the fertili er plant. If it is highl important. As I have mentioned. Now. we can assume that the committee can not come up with a report on the matter in afew da s" and also talked about corruption. Pi a and Urea. on the banks of river Pamba. which will give ever one the basis points to begin with. Was that right? Our teacher did not point out an thing! Another thing that came up was the formation of a committee to look at the probabl reason for the fishes d ing. Hope The Case Stud was: A fertili er compan . GM The points that these people made were valid and could have been addressed much before these factors came up for discussion. The communit makes representation to the govt. Was that right? I am bit confused if this should be done or not. the govt. then ou face a challenge to think differentl from what ou have been discussing till then. Suggest a solution to the problem in the case. there was talk regarding compensation being given to the villagers in the form of jobs to be offered to the villagers. The compan manages to get a sta order on the govt. CAT 2011. then ou need to accept that. In case something like the "corruption" point comes in. The fertiliser compan 's contention is that the damage is not due to their fault. The management is asked to compensate the villagers. make certain deviations in terms of our points of what can be done to avoid/include such a situation and then go ahead with the discussion. But then this gu comes up and sa s that since we are not provided with the compan 's si e and policies. X.com/forum/ /36824-survival-tips-b-school-gd-print. One da . Cheers. While the social activists file a case in the Supreme Court hoping for justice. once I am done with toda 's work at PG HQ. the villager folk are deprived of their main source of income due to the death of the fishes. but covering most of them will help. please get the assumptions in place while beginning the discussion. Then another gu said that "we know the s stems being followed in India. we can not take it as a probable solution. This will enable lots of brainstorming. I will send ou some more pointers on the case itself in sometime. ruling from the high court. This single point depending on its importance should be dealt with right there and finished / inducted into the further discussions threads. Is that right? I'll give that we'll be making some ou dont mind. through their local MLA. Quote: Originall Posted b geminishi ani (Post 1374780) What I understood from our post was that we need to clarif assumptions regarding the compan .html?pp=60 26/27 . This neccessaril does not mean that ou will be able to figure out all possible assumptions in the beginning.

S P 40 1 ( ) 15 1 2 3 11 > L P G LG Y. CAT 2011. The Personal Interview Tips .com . A SKYPE . I ( MBA ). T 10:02 AM. I - . I S . T . I . W I I I P I I . . pagalguy.com/forum/ /36824-survival-tips-b-school-gd-print. I I I B-S I . GD I I T 29-01-2009 02:48 PM . I A GMT +5.2/5/12 PaGaLGuY. T . C .The Everything of MBA in India and Abroad.Exclusive ones H P I . B-S .5. T T I T . . GM Shi ani .html?pp=60 27/27 . . I . . I B M .