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Om Gurave Namah --------------------------------------------------------Dear Sarabani, I am delighted to see such intelligent and enlightened students at SJVC.

This is the great blessing of Sri Rama in my life that i shall have the best students without bothering to advertise! (Mantrapada with the Guru -Mangala dharma karmadhipati Yoga). You are right about Narasimha & Visti. they have surrendered to the teaching and hence they soaked in all the knowledge like a dry sponge drinking the Ganga jala. You seem more thirsty than any student I have met so far in that your desire is for the highest flame of Jyotish and will not compromise in this. Good. Since you have taken some steps, I am onliged to walk along....do read my views under yours.

> Dear Sanjayji, > > Thank you for taking the time and commenting on the post and giving your > guidance. I have noted all that you have directed and will try to learn > further and follow those leads. Specifically, I would be very interested > to learn about the correlation of the dasamahavidyas with the navagrahas > and the vimshottari dasha system. Rath: Not getting into the philosophy as yet, the thumb rule to use Shakti mantra is that the planet dasa/Vimsottari dasa should be causing great pain and suffering. Pain and suffering are related to the consciousness of the mind and hence hot/cold and all such relative terms come into being at this level. It is at this point that we remember the Mother. All babies cry for the Mother when they suffer. To alleviate the suffering, the Mother takes various forms of which the most potent are the Dasa mahavidya. For example if a person is having Sun (Antardasa - note Not dasa) and is suffering, then we advise the use of the

Mahakali Rahu .Matangi Mantra and worship of Matangi as She is the Mother of the Sun. Correlate his life events with the dasa and the effect of poojas he performed.Bhairavi Whereas the Shakti of the Grahas are worshipped at the begining of the antardasa to remove blemish and for protection during the antardasa.Chinnamasta Ketu . In tantra.e. Remember my basic foundationof the tripod of life . The more you study the life of Thakur (Rama Krishna Pramhamsa) the better you will understand the dasa mahavidya. Thus the Dasa themselves represnt the different forms of Shiva. Arudha Lagna & Lagna Thakurs Tapasya has a lot to teach us. . you can compel a graha to give good results. What are the implications of this keeping in view that Graha represent people coming into one's life. the Shakti os Lagna i.Kamalatmika Saturn . Moon & Lagna or [Paradigm-2] Atmakaraka. Again. Sun . Bhairavi is worshipped at all times for ensuring that the path is right.Bagalamukhi Mercury . bhairavi does not have an independant existance and blends with the Shakti of the Lagna lord.Tripurasundari Jupiter . Just as there cannot be antardasa without a dasa.[Paradigm-1] Sun. Kali cannot come into being without Shiva (your explanation was good.Bhubaneswari Mars . what I wanted to see was the Jyotish correlation).Dhoomavati Lagna . This will help you to learn more.Matangi Moon .Ugratara Venus .

Das mahavidya. Rath: The learned Swami ji . Maybe both the akshara and the moon > linkages are true. Ekadasa Rudra.This is a part of jyotish which > fascinates me and I would like to delve into this direction. I will do some home work on it and let you know. There is a definite link between the Das Avatar. though of course have not read it yet. I was > totally unaware of the correlation between the planets and the gods till > I joined the sjvc/va circuit and when I read Visti and Narasimha hold > forth on these topics at length. Rath: Fine I will look forward to this. was a novel concept for me and I have just bought your > VRIA.excellent. Dwadas aditya. Can > the dasamahavidyas be linked to the dasavatars be linked to the > navagrahas be linked to the kalas of the moon? Rath: Leave the kalas of Moon alone till you are in a position to discuss the Chandra kala nadi. the nirguna consciousness and Lakshmi as > the full moon? So will both the dasamahavidya and dasavatars teach us > about the evolution of the soul (Thank you Dasguptaji) and we can map it . they are meant to stress a point and are not to be taken literally. etc. The fact that planets can indicate > ishta devatas. Krishna ashtami. Ram > navami. Narayan as amavasya. I got the hint about the > Shodasi and the moon link from one of Swami Pragyanananda's (RKM) books. > And it kind of clicked on me. You must bear in mind that these references are more allegorical than scientific reality. I am unaware of any specific link to the Chandra kala. be careful in what you absorb and the point stressed by him would mean that that the strength of phases of Tripura are based on the kala's of the Moon.

for me moksha is the goal but > followed in the correct path. Shiva gives the knowledge and so on. There is a great depth to the concept of the path. To > your question about the path and the goal. Rath: Good. knowledge and goal. start with the path. Vishnu (avatar) are the granters of Moksha. this becomes clearer as the forms and their fruits are clearly stated. SJVC has proved to be the best forum for learning. By correct I mean that which is true for > me. Some years back I had to read the > Caraka Samhita for a paper I was writing on medicinal plants and there I > came across the linkage of how the human body was a microcosm of the > earth and the cosmic elements. I have never prayed to Kali (only occasionally during visits to > peethasthans). thereby > teaching us our own evolution in our karmic path on the way to moksha? > At another level will this divine correlation of the planets tell us > more about the nature of the Divine. What tells you that by closig your eyes. I can write at length to Dasguptaji about Chhinnamasta (and she is > very crucial for our understanding of Brahmagyan). Rath: Yes. Rath: Why can you not pray to Chinnamasta or to kali? What prevents you from accepting the truth that this world is not a bed of roses. Look for the various linkages to the 12th from karakamsa (aspects also count here as these are paths). but I can never pray > to her. nay Kalpurusha himself. Now I found the missing part: how the > human being is a microcosm of the cosmos. the truth that some women become prostitutes and others become impure by hurting their spouses/guru's will change? Kali's tongue is red from the blood oozing out as she bit it when she unwittingly stepped on . In the bhagavatam. These are the paths that can take us to the Ista devata.> on the planets and as they appear on our respective horoscopes.

What matters is the attitude of the Guru and how he teaches these subjects. another example is Meera bai.So read and keep reading. Just a last point to help clear all doubts . but struck to the right goal. pure and clear and Satwik right through. This is the meaning of Chinnamasta and we atone for it when we lose our Ahamkara (symbolised by the head). You are too intelligent for anyone to give you stories. She shall help us to get over these sins represented by saturn and rise. One such fine Satwik example is Radhika or Radha. If the worship is right then like a lotus it shall help us to spring out of the quagmire of the filth of past karma. We all make mistakes and Kali represnts those mistalkes we have made that are as terrible as stepping on the chest of Shiva. Radha is a perfect example of Kali. Thus. In her mercy. Hence those who shall worship Radha automaticalle end up worshipping Kali. . She suffered atrocities. there is a DEEP SATWIK. For example Kali refers to any lady who has been wronged and called Kalankini even when She is attached to Krishna. we should realise that we deserve to be punished like those beheaded ones adorning Her garland. amounts to distorting the truth. This is the correct attitude (you will agree that the right attitude is very vital in this worship). Remember you Ista mantra and keep reading and then the knowledge will be yours. RAJASIK OR TAMASIK ATTITUDE that can be attached to each worship of the Mother. anger and what not all.the worship of Kali in Her satwik manners/attitude will surely give you Krishna consciousness very quickly. tell me one person in this world who at some point of time has not lost his/her head on some foolish matter.Maheswara and to say that this is the pose She will prefer to be in..Kali Krishna swaroopa. As regards Chinnamasta. That is the real truth behind the particular pose that kali occupies and in remember Her in that form.

As you > rightly say. 12th from karakamsha etc. In my thoughts and consciousness.What is the specific form of Shiva in your chart? > I have been taught that he is sat-cit-ananda and that I should remind > myself over and over again 'chidanandarupam shivohang shivoham'. capable of bringing tears > to one's eyes. This is a bit difficult for > me to write as I am speaking of something very personal in a public > space. as he > appears before me.But I have always been taught to pray to the devi who is > 'sarva mangala'.Yes. 'nityaya.. I pray to her as > Bhabatarini. Mangalmayee. Rath:. namaste > namaste chidanandamurte. I have > been taught to abnegate myself at her lotus feet and that She will take > care of everything. > this is how she has been handed down through generations of a living > tradition. na janaami pujang na cha nyasayogang.. I think > Dasguptaji can vouch for it. namaste namaste tapoyogyagamya.this is the way I perceive him. She is Siddhidhatri. namaste namaste > shrutigyanagamya' . who is saumya never rudra. That is what the Devi means to us. The Kali songs of > Bengal are songs of extreme bhakti and love. gatisvam gatisvam > tvameka bhavani. So this is the rup that we have before us. shuddhaya'. > 'shantam'. Rath: Imagine the difference now that you have the knowledge that Ista is very clear in any chart. Karunamayee. and may I add 'shaswatam'. Similarly with Shiv. my ishta devata (I discovered a week ago > he is so astrologically too. the great Viveka. this is how she appears. pray to him. na janaami tantrang na cha > stotramantram. It's interesting how shiva tandava stotra never .. Yes. I pray to her as the Bhavani you speak of Sanjayji: na > janaami daanang na cha dhyanayogang. As mother. 'nirakaram'.. 'Namaste. This is what she means to me.! Quite amazing). namaste vibho vishwamurte. > Jagganmata. Brahmamayee. Jagadishwari.

Its only now that I foray into all this much > more.> formed a part of my cosmos. . though I have never met > him. Its not prachalita in > Bengal. The picture will become even clearer. then move to the Vimsamsa along with the Rasi & Navamsa fixed in your mind. How does one fit all this into the complete picture? Rath: Start with the Dwadasamsa. that I have learnt of Ravana's great stuti. It may also be that my father's father was a follower of > Chaitnaya Mahaprabhu and a ghor Vaishnav (my father's family hails from > Nadia) and such influences have seeped into me.