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j al commented on posted to #seminaarikannu helsinki 04.12.2010 (fi)
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j al commented on posted to #seminaarikannu helsinki 04.12.2010 (fi)
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Kytiin lpi esimerkki asukastilastotietojen muodostumisesta. Varsinainen tieto ihmisist on Vestrekisteriss. Tilastokeskuksella on psy thn. He kervt tietoa omiin tietokantoihinsa. Helsingin tietokeskus ostaa Tilastokeskukselta tietoa vestst datadumppina. Tilastokeskuksessa dumpista muokataan CSV-tiedostoja SAS-ohjelmistolla. Nist muokataan PX-Edit-ohjelmalla PC-Axis-tiedostoja ja julkaistaan PX-Webin avulla lopulta Aluesarjat-palvelussa.
pe3 commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 04.12.2010 (fi)
Lnsi-Pasilaa...
j al commented on posted to #seminaarikannu helsinki 04.12.2010 (fi)
Current crime reports not available in Helsinki. Emergency calls are: http://www.tilannehuone.fi/halytys.php
tanj aaita commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 04.12.2010 (en)
Puhuttiin Helsingin palvelukartasta, joka on oikeastaan ernlainen datakatalogi. Siihen on pian tulossa ohjelmointirajapinta.
pe3 commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 04.12.2010 (fi)
Vissiin jotain lytyisi Kaupunkisuunnitteluvirastosta. Pekan esityksest kvi ilmi, ett monesti tieto lytyy vain julkaisuista. Esimerkiksi
Mihin tietoa kytetn? Palveluverkon kehittmiseen, investointiptksiin. Tyttmyyden kehitys (vhemmn Aluesarjoissa). Alueiden erilaistuminen (tulotaso, koulutustaso, vieraskielisen vestn sijoittuminen).
pe3 commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 04.12.2010 (fi)
@pe3 Tavallaanhan Helsingin palvelukartassa on jo API. Kun vhn kaivelee sivuston koodia / tutkii firebugilla tms. lytyy tmnkaltaisia linkkej: http://www.hel.fi/palvelukartta/kml.a... (tss urli ilman http-alkua, niin nkyy miten parametreja vlitetn: www.hel.fi/palvelukartta/kml.aspx? l=1&lang=fi&dohaku=1&haku=kirjastot&kauposa=C91&pid=0&kml=1 ) --> Esim. tuo hakee kirjastot KML-muodossa. Toki dokumentoitu virallinen API on aina kivempi... Toinen esimerkki: Tm generoi palvelimella overlay-kuvan piirrettvksi kartan plle. Ihan hauska idea kytt palvelimen laskentavoimaa, niin j mobiiliclientin ty pienemmksi...
Ile commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 04.12.2010 (fi)
PC-Axis formaatin edut? Tietorakenne on erittin kompakti (vhinen muistinkulutus?) ja metadatatiedot. @tapio-n Mainitsi, ett Irlannissa on tarve muuttaa PC-Axis-aineistoja SDMX-formaattii, jonka muuntamiseksi RDF:ksi on kehitetty muualla tykaluja.
pe3 commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 04.12.2010 (fi)
Monimutkaisempiin konversioihin suosittelen tutustumaan Pentaho Data Integratoriin. Se on purejava-toteutus ja sen ilmaisella yhteisversiolla voi tehd samat temput. Integrointijobien, datamuunnosten, suodatusten jne. tekemiseen on graafinen editori. Itse jobit ovat XML-kuvauksia joita voi ajaa komentorivilt. Lhtein/kohteina voi olla mm. kannat, tekstitiedostot (csv, xml, ...), excelit jne. Systeemi osaa mys siirrell datoja, esim. sftp, scp, windows-levyjaot jne... Katso vaikkapa Kettlen dokumentaatio.
Ile commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 04.12.2010 (fi)
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@ile @pe3 Ja jos jaksaa lukea palvelukartan dokumenaatiota: http://www.hel2.fi/toimipisterekister... , niin ei tartte tutkia mitn sorsa koodeja. Tosi koodaaja ei tietysti rupea mitn kyttohjeita lukemaan ;-)
posiki commented on posted to #seminaarikannu Helsinki 04.12.2010 (fi)
Pelastustoimen tehtvt lyt RSS:n tlt: http://www.pelastustoimi.fi/tehtavat/... Tuosta voi tehd GeoRSS:n vaikkapa geonames-palvelun avulla. Nyttisi ett tuo tilannekartta arpoo jotain koordinaatteja esimerkiksi Helsingin alueen tehtville. Ett kaikki eivt ole pllekkin. Itse visualisoinnin kyll hieman eri lailla.
posiki commented on posted to #seminaarikannu Helsinki 04.12.2010 (fi)
Hienoa @posiki ett tuollainen lytyy. Miten minun olisi pitnyt tuo ohje lyt? Olen trmnnyt thn datalhteeseen aiemmin tll: http://opengov.fi/data/8/ -- Sielt puuttuu linkki thn ohjeeseen. Samoin jos itse sivulla olisi alapalkissa pienell "API" josta linkki ohjeisiin, homma alkaisi toimia... PS. Qaiku jtti linkkisi pern ylimrisen pilkun...
Ile commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 04.12.2010 (fi)
@ile No siin palvelussa on sellainen "Tietoa palvelusta" linkki ja sielt sitten on tietoa palvelusta. Jotenkin loogista. Tai sitten ei. Hyv ett lissit tuonne opengov.fi -palveluun. Pilkut poistettu.
posiki commented on posted to #seminaarikannu Helsinki 04.12.2010 (fi)
Jtin sinne toisenkin kommentin: Olisipa hienoa, jos Helsingin palvelukartta -API tukisi bbox-parametria, jolla voisi antaa haulle lat/lon-rajauksen. Onko jollain tietoa, miten voisi arpoa oikean kaupunginosanumeron tai osa-aluenumeron, kun tiedetn sijainti? Lytyyk thn valmista palvelua?
Ile commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 04.12.2010 (fi)
Tll juuri keskusteltiin, ett erilaiset hallinnolliset / tilastolliset aluerajat ovat olemassa. Mutta ei tietysti saatavilla. Joten ei ole palvelua, kun ei ole aineistoa. Viel.
posiki commented on posted to #seminaarikannu Helsinki 04.12.2010 (fi)
Inspire-direktiivi avaa euroopplaisen paikkatietoaineiston, valtavasti dataa, mm. hallinnolliset rajat tulossa parin vuoden kuluttua.
tapio-n commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 04.12.2010 (fi)
Ja kuten jo mainitsin suullisesti INSPIRE-direktiivi tuottaa suuren mrn ympristn liittyvi paikkatietoaineistoja saataville. Metatietojen osalta ensimminen dead-line tuli 1.12.2010. Listietoja: www.paikkatietoikkuna.fi
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Ja Inspire pika-opas selitt asiat nopeasti: http://www.paikkatietoikkuna.fi/web/f... Dokumentin lopussa on mys listat eri paikkatietoaineistoista: hallinnolliset ja tilastoalueiden rajat sisltyvt mys.
posiki commented on posted to #seminaarikannu Helsinki 04.12.2010 (fi)
We are getting a briefing from the Netherlands: an impressive amount of datasets opened there today. Congrats, the Netherlands!
tanj aaita commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 04.12.2010 (en)
Ton Ziljlstra reporting from the Netherlands: The Foreign Office wanted to showcase where the development is going, but they couldn't as they allocate the funds to Oxfam Novib or other NGO's. Now the Foreign Office is working with NGO's to track and showcase how the funds are spent.
tanj aaita commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 04.12.2010 (en)
@tapio-n Fillarikanavaan on olemassa json-rajapinta ja rss:iin saa, mutta ei tietenkn ole ehditty dokumentoimaan mitn mihinkn kenellekn ... suutarin lapsen kengt you know @reima voi jatkaa
apoikola commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 04.12.2010 (fi)
Helsinki-Enschede -keskustelu
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@tapio-n Voisko noista fillarikanavan json-rajapinnoista saada vaikka ihan kevyen demolinkin?
Ile commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 04.12.2010 (fi)
@Ile varmaankin sun olisi pitnyt pingata mua #Fillarikanava -jutuissa @Reima on siis todella tuo meidn API-ekspertti, mutta nytekappale lytyi meiliboksista http://fillarikanava.hel.fi/api/timem... Listaa talvikyselyn tulokset. Talvikyselyn taustat: http://www.kaupunkifillari.fi/blog/20...
apoikola commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 06.12.2010 (fi)
Uhhuh, oon aika ksi kaikenlaisten qaikujen ja joikujen suhteen... @Ile, mulla on hutaistu dokumentaatio tuosta rajapinnasta, voin laittaa jotenkin privana kun keksin miten. En laittais viel ihan koko internetin nhtvksi, koska API:n vrinkytt on toistaiseksi oiva tapa rysytt fillarikanava. API-key-implementaatio on melkein valmis, sen jlkeen voidaan pist yleiseen jakoon.
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